Cardiac Arrest

[flatface]

Thought some of you maybe interested, the British Heart Foundation have released a new video advert campaign highlighting how to preform CPR. The new change is that they're not encouraging you to give the kiss of life (mouth to mouth) and instead the emphasis is to push harder and faster on the persons chest.

Watch Vinnie Jones demonstrate here!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16222183

Have any of you had to preform CPR?

[GirlNextDoor15]

not me. i learnt how to perform CPR though

[Futz]

Ribs will be broken!

[flatface]

Ribs will be broken!

That's a common misconception! Although ribs may be broken, if the pressure is placed correctly onto the sternum then technically the ribs shouldn't break.

[Shar]

That's quite interesting, haven't had to give anyone cpr myself though

[Catzsy]

Hey Josh great to see you. I have done first aid courses but never had to do it irl. I think more people may have a go with the new policy.

[Jssy]

Only had to do it on dummies when I did st johns ambulance

[Mathew]

Only had to do it on dummies when I did st johns ambulance
Yep, I did it on a dummy too when I did the Young First Aider course! :P

[Stephen]

hi can someone let me try it out on them

thanks

[triston220]

For what reason are they no longer advising Mouth-To-Mouth?

[flatface]

That's quite interesting, haven't had to give anyone cpr myself though

It's not very nice so I hope you never have to preform it


Hey Josh great to see you. I have done first aid courses but never had to do it irl. I think more people may have a go with the new policy.

Hello you! Another reason why people don't give it ago is the risk of being sued if it goes wrong, so I'm told. Although my understanding was that if you're trying to save a persons life and cause accidental damage doing so then you cannot be sued as it's classed as a rescue attempt. You probably know a bit more about that kind of thing than I do though haha :)


Only had to do it on dummies when I did st johns ambulance


Yep, I did it on a dummy too when I did the Young First Aider course! :P

Glad you've both been trained!


hi can someone let me try it out on them

thanks

Try it on a dummy, doing it on a real person is horrific, especially if you're just a bystander

[flatface]

For what reason are they no longer advising Mouth-To-Mouth?

There are a few reasons that I'm aware of, one being that the majority of people who come across someone in cardiac arrest don't want to give mouth to mouth for hygiene reasons, I know I only would in exceptional circumstances. Another reason is it's really difficult to manage someones airway at the same time as breathing for them, it takes paramedics a long time to master this skill so it isn't really fair to have that expectation thrown onto the public when they haven't had any proper training in it.

[Richie]

I think a lot of people are afraid to get involved when someone goes into cardiac arrest, they just phone an ambulance and hope for the best. I wish more people would help rather than sit back and wait on someone else to do it (a bit like myself).

[Shar]

I think a lot of people are afraid to get involved when someone goes into cardiac arrest, they just phone an ambulance and hope for the best. I wish more people would help rather than sit back and wait on someone else to do it (a bit like myself).
I'm glad I've never been in a situation where I'd have to do it before but I'm still not sure how to perform CPR properly and I'd be too afraid to try and perform it on someone.

[flatface]

I'm glad I've never been in a situation where I'd have to do it before but I'm still not sure how to perform CPR properly and I'd be too afraid to try and perform it on someone.

You just have to remember that the person is basically dead, you can't really go wrong.

[Succubus]

Haven'tdone it on anyone other then a dummie :P

[Matthew]

Ribs will be broken!

Better to break their ribs than die I suppose :P

[geo]

Some ambulance workers came to our school in activity week (I believe it was St. John's, although I can't be sure) and we all learnt how to perform CPR. Thankfully, I've never had to do it to anyone.

[Mark]

Fantastic advert, I've never had to perform it though.

[flatface]

I thought some of you maybe interesting is watching what real life CPR looks like, it's not as dramatic as you think, or that might just be because I've been to quite a few. The video also demonstrates how easy it is to compress someone's chest, it's not about being perfect at it, it's about giving the person a chance.

This man in the video survived thanks to the efforts made by the bystanders and ambulance crew, a little thing such as performing CPR for a few minutes can literally mean the difference between life and death.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxpYuVr53zQ&feature=related

[Shoe]

I am trained in CPR as i am a lifeguard, i have to do it every other week on the dummies to keep up to date in case i need to use it.

Personally i would not hesitate to help and use CPR on someone as i have confidence in myself and know what i am doing.

I believe people wont do it for the fear of being sued although i have the same understanding of it as flatface in the fact that it is classed as a rescue attempt.

Im not so sure on the video. I think it is good as it will hopefully allow people to help a bit more although in my opinion and how i have always done it with my training the positioning of the hands appears rather high. even in the video above they look further down than on the staying alive video. anyone elses views on this ??

Also i think they have said about just compressions because yes people wont be as afraid to just use that but also there will be oxygen still in the lungs and in the blood as it will stop being sent to the extremities, this means that if you can keep the blood circulating to the brain and keep it flowing to the vital organs there is a higher chance of survival ?? Im just going on what may be the reason here taking my anatomy and physiology knowlegde and applying it. I dont know if people will agree.