Noone posts any more.

[Richie]

The forums dead and very few people post any more unless they're being negative. Over 300 people havevisitedthe forum today but very few of them post. The forum is never going to be as popular as before if people continue to be followers and not leaders. Make some god damn threads and stop waiting on others to do it.

I reckon management should do a posting competition. I have always been against posting competitions but no-one postsany more so anything is worth a try. Perhaps you could do aseparatecompetition for spam. I'm sure there is a way to count spam posts, I believe the spam forum would get very popular and people seem to give out that the spam users aren't welcoming (THEY ARE ALL MEAN, I AGREE) but if you all come at once they wont be able to fight yous off ;). If one new person posts in spam they get told they're boring or weird, aren't we all? At the end of the day people shouldn't stop posting in spam for what others think, people think I'm an annoying attention seeking ***** (been told in the past) but **** the haters.

Give rep away, vip or do different competitions on the forum for to win itune vouchers or something. A 10£ voucher for a monthly competition isn't that bad.After allrevenueis generated from donater and adverts. Fair enough most of that cash pays for the server but with this forums activitythe adverts itselfshould be making a hell of a lot of revenue anyway. Its just the same old prizes and people have just lost interest. The forum shouldn't have to bribe people to post but i wouldn't call it a bribe it's more of an incentive. The competitions are great, the prizes are just all the same.

It doesn't take a genius to post feedback (sure don't i post it? :P) I'm just pointing out the obvious and you know activity is a problem. I hope something is being done behind thescenesbecause if not, I'm worried.

[brandon]

The amount of posting isn't what it used to be or what we'd like it to be but saying that only 1 day in January got more posts than 5 out of the 6 days in February so far so that's a nice short term improvement. I'm not sure but I think that the advert and donator revenue doesn't even meet the server costs, but I believe we are looking into the idea of a posting competition and there'll be a good prize to be won. :)

[Kasabian]

Aye, I miss the old days. The days where you'd comment on a thread and within the hour that thread wasburiedwith all the new posts haha.

[FlyingJesus]

Would rather have 2 decent threads than hundreds of boring stories/questions/poor jokes tbh

Also this ridiculous theory that spam users are aggressively territorial doesn't help anything, not even sure why people still believe it when it hasn't been the case for at least 3 years

[Stephen]

DONT DO POSTING SPAMMING COMPETITIONS

I beg you dont do it

[Richie]

Would rather have 2 decent threads than hundreds of boring stories/questions/poor jokes tbh

Also this ridiculous theory that spam users are aggressively territorial doesn't help anything, not even sure why people still believe it when it hasn't been the case for at least 3 years

It is no were as bad as before but they still do make sly digs at people when they could avoid it completely http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=735633

[Sharon]

It is no were as bad as before but they still do make sly digs at people when they could avoid it completely http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=735633

I don't get how you expect people to react to that thread though, hardly a spark for fabulous discussion...

I agree to with you to an extent, that's just a bad example to back up your point.

[Jordan]

I think we need to think of new ways to increase posting or create more active discussions. I do dislike the idea of a posting competition.

[Stephen]

how about we install something that turns us all into bots

when we're offline we continuously make threads about cheap viagra and stuff

[beth]

forum's never gonna be what it was, but i totes agree with tom that i'd rather it was 2 quality threads than 10000 really cringey threads.

[Richie]

I don't get how you expect people to react to that thread though, hardly a spark for fabulous discussion...

I agree to with you to an extent, that's just a bad example to back up your point.


It is called spam for a reason.. lol and yeah it wasn't the best example but it just shows how easy small things like that can be found

[FlyingJesus]

It is no were as bad as before but they still do make sly digs at people when they could avoid it completely http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=735633

That's not a new member or an interesting thread. There's a massive difference between making fun of someone for being stupid and for simply not being an established friend - the latter is not something that has happened in earnest for many years

[sophiethenerd]

Thing is half the time I don't find threads interesting and don't really have any ideas for threads. And I think that goes for a lot of people. I would like to post, but its just hard work finding the actually interesting and decent ones.

[Richie]

That's not a new member or an interesting thread. There's a massive difference between making fun of someone for being stupid and for simply not being an established friend - the latter is not something that has happened in earnest for many years

Tom my point is at the end of the day the posts are negative and could easily be avoided but people choose to reply with stuff like that and i don't understand why. If i personally don't like a thread i won't waste my energyposting in it.It just doesn't make sense, why post in a thread that is boring you're wasting your time and couldpotentiallyspark an argument :S.

[FlyingJesus]

So you want people to post more but not post

[Richie]

So you want people to post more but not post

Don't post if you're going to be a negative ****, simples.

[dirrty]

Don't post if you're going to be a negative ****, simples.
no need to be so negative with the swearing.

anyway people on ere should be able to post/and then reply to whatever they want (aslong as it's within the boundaries of the rules). who cares if it's negative - sometimes those posts are more interesting and sparks more laughable discussions than anything else...

[FlyingJesus]

Ahhhh I see. People are allowed to post as long as they're being fake and overbearing, which should be encouraged and rewarded

[Richie]

Ahhhh I see. People are allowed to post as long as they're being fake and overbearing, which should be encouraged and rewarded

Yeah pretty much.

[Sharon]

Ahhhh I see. People are allowed to post as long as they're being fake and overbearing, which should be encouraged and rewarded

That happens anyway, just look in PAPOY.

Well at the end of the day, there's bound to be negative people everywhere and people should just let them do what they want.

[Catzsy]

Not as many members seem to come on these days. Hopefully it will get better but as others have said I would rather have less threads and posts than spam. :)

[beth]

with the example you've used richie, i don't know what the op expected from the reponse. like you said, if people don't like it they don't have to post but in fairness we're all entitled to our opinions. no-one was victimising her in the way that spam used to victimise people, they're doing it because it's a stupid thread (in my opinion).

i just don't see the problem. i'm not going to be overly nice to people because i'm not like that irl, not gonna change myself just to promote active posting. which it wouldn't anyway, this forum is most active when a drama IS going down anyway.

[Grig]

I think management need to start doing more things. Until a feedback thread is posted, quite often management are content sitting there with the status quo. I've not seen anything big happen on the forum or on Hx in ages. This isn't 2005 anymore, you can't just sit there expecting members to come to you :P, as sad as it is.

Although it's not just the forum, but Hx in general.

[GommeInc]

A posting competition is just a short-term action for a long-term problem.

Recursion said something qutie interesting a few months ago about the server issues which sums up the mindset of management and staff here - Habbox is reactive, not proactive. They're happy to go along taking on damage until too much damage is taken on board and it's too late to do anything when action is taken. It wouldn't surprise if the past server issues have put people off completely.

[beth]

A posting competition is just a short-term action for a long-term problem.

wise words. totally agree.

[Eoin247]

I think management need to start doing more things. Until a feedback thread is posted, quite often management are content sitting there with the status quo. I've not seen anything big happen on the forum or on Hx in ages. This isn't 2005 anymore, you can't just sit there expecting members to come to you :P, as sad as it is.

Although it's not just the forum, but Hx in general.

Agreed. We had this type of thread pop up many times since summer. Amazingly as far as i can see nothing has been done still and the situation has gotten worse!

[xxMATTGxx]

The thing is suggestions for these "big things" is what we would mainly need. Coming up with something from the top of our heads may not always work out and it would be better to get ideas from the members themselves.

[Inseriousity.]

Management are never content with the status quo and there is always something happening behind the scenes as an attempt to make Habbox a better place forolder and new memberswhether that's planning big events or smaller things like adding new forum features. Despite that, as gommeinc has pointed out, these big events are merely a short-term solution to a more long-term problem. It's all very well having all these big events with their massive prizes but if newer members are just going to leave when they finish then we haven't really improved anything at all. In my opinion, those who stay here stay because they have connections to the place that keeps them coming back. They fit in somewhere whether that'sa frequent member of aspecific forum(technology, spam, Habbo, runescape as examples)or as a member of staff or just getting involved on Habbo. Long-term then it is up to management to try and make people fit in. This isn't always possible as there are many factors that we just can't control and if we attempted to control them would do more harm than good. It needs the whole community to work properly. The community needs to allow people in while maintaining some form of hierarchy, however subtle, that people aspire to rise to.

In short, management can't do everything. We can'twave a magic wand andforce people to keep posting. Efforts need to be made to making the community a nicer place that people want to join. We can entice them with our wonderfulbig events and competitions but to truly keep them here, they need to feel like they belong. loljust realised this isn't short at all.

[Recursion]

A posting competition is just a short-term action for a long-term problem.

Recursion said something qutie interesting a few months ago about the server issues which sums up the mindset of management and staff here - Habbox is reactive, not proactive. They're happy to go along taking on damage until too much damage is taken on board and it's too late to do anything when action is taken. It wouldn't surprise if the past server issues have put people off completely.

See, I do speak sense some times :(

[jasey]

how about we install something that turns us all into bots

when we're offline we continuously make threads about cheap viagra and stuff

LOL! I can't stand forum bots. They are parasitic.

[Vause]

I can't really say much as I've only just returned to the forums myself, but I've posted in threads and it's taken days for people to reply.

[Stephen]

*Removed*

Edited by Jordan (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not target others

[Chippiewill]

Also this ridiculous theory that spam users are aggressively territorial doesn't help anything, not even sure why people still believe it when it hasn't been the case for at least 3 years
I do not believe it intentional however the spam forum is very cliquey and I think the presence of KKK does nothing to help this issue.

[Catzsy]

I do not believe it intentional however the spam forum is very cliquey and I think the presence of KKK does nothing to help this issue.

It is very much better than it used to be and the KKK is an Habbox Institution. Was this a joke post, Chippiewill? In any event new users don't usually migrate straight to Spam. I am quite confused as to why the numbers have dropped so much lately. We did have an awful problem with loads of downtime but it has been pretty good lately and the temporary drop usually recovers but it doesn't seem to have this time. :S

[twinart]

Not really, I always spam the forum to avoid from inactivity.

[Sharon]

I do not believe it intentional however the spam forum is very cliquey and I think the presence of KKK does nothing to help this issue.

How is it cliquey? Are you suggesting that if we got rid of KKK it's going to be a better place? Next joke...

[Intensifiable]

True Story.

[Chippiewill]

It is very much better than it used to be and the KKK is an Habbox Institution. Was this a joke post, Chippiewill?
It is much better than it used to be and I do not believe it can really be helped too much more than it is now, the two-step separation between Spam and the Habbo section which is where new members will reside, because the spam forum frowns upon habbo related spam (And I'd say quite rightly) which is one of the few ways in which new members would be able to relate to other members, which means that they must first undertake a migration into other sections which can be problematic as some users do take a while to identify the status quo which happens to be very mature because people are generally aged between 16-17 outside of the habbo section which itself tends to attract 12-14 year olds, the age gap provides too much of a barrier for new members to spread because the older members find them incredibly annoying (Understandably) and tend to avoid conversing with them. I probably worded the whole cliquey situation badly, from an external point of view it would look cliquey it's certainly less cliquey than it looks.


In any event new users don't usually migrate straight to Spam. I am quite confused as to why the numbers have dropped so much lately. We did have an awful problem with loads of downtime but it has been pretty good lately and the temporary drop usually recovers but it doesn't seem to have this time. :S
Considering that poll identified the forum demographic (Outside the habbo secion) was 16-17 almost a year ago, which means it's probably closer to 17-18 now which means that the people just on the fringe of that probably went off to university in the Autumn or started working (No doubt many will stop using the forum then for various reasons, they probably continued for a while in Autumn when they're just meeting new people and then Christmas is enough of a distraction to stop altogether), then I suppose next year will probably be a massive issue in terms of this as much of the demographic will leave (Around half) and the year after you've got the entire forum core demographic either at university or working which is probably the largest threat for the forum dying in the next few years. Getting newer members involved in the rest of the forum is probably the single biggest problem this forum faces.

[beth]

y'know i still think the technology forum is far more hostile than spam nowadays.

[Chippiewill]

y'know i still think the technology forum is far more hostile than spam nowadays.
I'd agree with that, we tend to shun people who don't understand what they're talking about.

[FlyingJesus]

I do not believe it intentional however the spam forum is very cliquey and I think the presence of KKK does nothing to help this issue.

Sure, if you think an area where people get along and talk to each other is the same thing as being cliquey and unwelcoming. Check out mdna for the most obvious recent proof against spam's unwarranted bad rep


the age gap provides too much of a barrier for new members to spread because the older members find them incredibly annoying (Understandably) and tend to avoid conversing with them. I probably worded the whole cliquey situation badly, from an external point of view it would look cliquey it's certainly less cliquey than it looks.

Yeah that's not cliquey that's genuinely not connecting with people, which completely different from purposely shutting people out for not being a part of the gang


Getting newer members involved in the rest of the forum is probably the single biggest problem this forum faces.

I completely agree with this if you take away "the rest of", as really the problem is (as it has been for years now) people simply not sticking around for any length of time, wherever they start off. I'm not gonna bother looking through the current stats now but when I looked into it a couple of years ago (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=609057) it was simply a case of having plenty of people signing up but hardly anyone being active - at the time over a third of members had zero posts and well over half had less than 10 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=608686&p=6101616#post6101616), and while registration activity may or may not have decreased since then the problem is still in getting people who do register to hang around, which has still not been properly addressed after all this time

[Recursion]

Agree with the OP, for example, check the Tech Section out... last post was yesterday Morning. That place used to be buzzing :(

[Richie]

Agree with the OP, for example, check the Tech Section out... last post was yesterday Morning. That place used to be buzzing :(

probs also bcos the server downtime yesterday :P

server - so much money such little performance. You'd get better uptime from these habbo hosts lol. I thought we were told this wouldn't happen again because they changed servers or something along those lines.

[Recursion]

probs also bcos the server downtime yesterday :P

server - so much money such little performance. You'd get better uptime from these habbo hosts lol. I thought we were told this wouldn't happen again because they changed servers or something along those lines.

I find it hard to believe their provider (which is SoftLayer, according to their DNS) or the hardware could be the problem here. We've had servers hosted at SoftLayer without all these problems.

Hell, I have Windows servers with 100s days uptime at work, and they're not pampered with air conditioned data centers and all that jazz!

[Richie]

I find it hard to believe their provider (which is SoftLayer, according to their DNS) or the hardware could be the problem here. We've had servers hosted at SoftLayer without all these problems.

Hell, I have Windows servers with 100s days uptime at work, and they're not pampered with air conditioned data centers and all that jazz!

It seems to be something with the server because all websites went down for a number of hours and there wasn't even error messages for me, just like going searching a domain that's free.

[Ajthedragon]

I don't make threads myself because I have no idea what to make a thread about. But given the lack of threads and as areplier(so to speak?) I guess that's why I don't post as much any more.

Also just a thought, why not remove the umbrella threads?

Such as the F1 thread in the sports section, that would cause more threads and more discussion with a more focal point tbh. I'm not sure people like the idea of looking back through various pages of a thread to understand what any ones talking about. :P

[Adam]

I don't get how you expect people to react to that thread though, hardly a spark for fabulous discussion...



Don't react at all.

[xxMATTGxx]

Agree with the OP, for example, check the Tech Section out... last post was yesterday Morning. That place used to be buzzing :(


probs also bcos the server downtime yesterday :P

server - so much money such little performance. You'd get better uptime from these habbo hosts lol. I thought we were told this wouldn't happen again because they changed servers or something along those lines.


I find it hard to believe their provider (which is SoftLayer, according to their DNS) or the hardware could be the problem here. We've had servers hosted at SoftLayer without all these problems.

Hell, I have Windows servers with 100s days uptime at work, and they're not pampered with air conditioned data centers and all that jazz!


It seems to be something with the server because all websites went down for a number of hours and there wasn't even error messages for me, just like going searching a domain that's free.

I wouldn't blame the server downtime for the inactivity of the tech section, well it's not the main reason because it was only down for last night. The server went down at 23:36 and therefore posts could of been made just fine before that time and anything before last night we have had no major problems for a while. I don't know the full story behind last nights downtime as I'm waiting for Jin to tell me about it and understand what went on. Until then, the server isn't a problem unless it starts acting up again which I'm hoping it bloody doesn't but hey ho. I guess I will start praying or something on the lines of that! :P

[Richie]

I wouldn't blame the server downtime for the inactivity of the tech section, well it's not the main reason because it was only down for last night. The server went down at 23:36 and therefore posts could of been made just fine before that time and anything before last night we have had no major problems for a while. I don't know the full story behind last nights downtime as I'm waiting for Jin to tell me about it and understand what went on. Until then, the server isn't a problem unless it starts acting up again which I'm hoping it bloody doesn't but hey ho. I guess I will start praying or something on the lines of that! :P

Na I'm not saying it was last night but i do think it was one of the main problems that made activity worse during the 3 day downtime last yr

[xxMATTGxx]

Na I'm not saying it was last night but i do think it was one of the main problems that made activity worse during the 3 day downtime last yr

Oh yeah the downtime we had last year for sure had an impact on activity for Habbox. I wouldn't disagree with that for one minute!

[Grig]

Oh yeah the downtime we had last year for sure had an impact on activity for Habbox. I wouldn't disagree with that for one minute!

It was a huge shame that it also happened after the SS, as it brought lots of news users in, then bam sever dies. Bad timing indeed :P!

[Gibs960]

It might just be me but the decline of fansites has made the forum boring, new members are coming and then leaving within a month or two and even then they post about 15 times. Posting competitions are stupid because it's the people that already post a lot that are gonna win.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I remember a lot of the spam clique were banned for various reasons, and yet we're sat here wondering why the forum isn't as active as it once was?

..thats what happens when you ban your faithful members.


The thing is suggestions for these "big things" is what we would mainly need. Coming up with something from the top of our heads may not always work out and it would be better to get ideas from the members themselves.

A mass unban and a shift away from Habbo Hotel towards a more teen based forum. As much as I hate that expression, lets face it - thats where it is going.

[xxMATTGxx]

I remember a lot of the spam clique were banned for various reasons, and yet we're sat here wondering why the forum isn't as active as it once was?

..thats what happens when you ban your faithful members.



A mass unban and a shift away from Habbo Hotel towards a more teen based forum. As much as I hate that expression, lets face it - thats where it is going.

Why would we shift away from Habbo when that is our only and current main come of any new members what so ever? Habbo hasn't closed down yet and if they improve the support for fansites like they are promising and asking us for our ideas then there is no point turning into another ClubHabbo where they are just a forum and aren't really a Habbo fansite no more.

A mass unban would have to be a case by case because some members still deserve to be banned from this forum. Well, we are on about people who aren't allowed to create accounts on the forum. You also sound like we have banned a lot of members for no valid reasons, no one has been banned for unfair reasons for quite some time now. You and the people who have been banned may not think that of course but that is their opinion which they are entitled to have.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Why would we shift away from Habbo when that is our only and current main come of any new members what so ever? Habbo hasn't closed down yet and if they improve the support for fansites like they are promising and asking us for our ideas then there is no point turning into another ClubHabbo where they are just a forum and aren't really a Habbo fansite no more.

Because the impression I got and still get is that the forum demographic is a lot older and less interested in Habbo, thats why I think maybe the usual argument of 'we cant allow swearing' and so on ought to be abolished. Or at the least, somehow the forum could be made to accomodate both older members and Habbo users.. somehow, perhaps make all non-Habbo forums come with a warning that they allow curse words and so on. I'm not a fan of swearing anyway as I find it petty and crass, but I do think it ought to be allowed as to old on and attract an older demographic and that Spam posts should also count towards post count - make HabboxForum more of a laid back forum, at the end of the day its only text on a screen.

I don't know really, its a tough one - i'd like to think the decline could be reversed because it'd be a shame for the forum to end in a few years.


A mass unban would have to be a case by case because some members still deserve to be banned from this forum. Well, we are on about people who aren't allowed to create accounts on the forum. You also sound like we have banned a lot of members for no valid reasons, no one has been banned for unfair reasons for quite some time now. You and the people who have been banned may not think that of course but that is their opinion which they are entitled to have.

Not as of recent no, but as we all know under past 'regimes' thats happened - and I think it did so much damage to the userbase which is the reason we are where we are now.

[Ajthedragon]

I don't make threads myself because I have no idea what to make a thread about. But given the lack of threads and as areplier(so to speak?) I guess that's why I don't post as much any more.

Also just a thought, why not remove the umbrella threads?

Such as the F1 thread in the sports section, that would cause more threads and more discussion with a more focal point tbh. I'm not sure people like the idea of looking back through various pages of a thread to understand what any ones talking about. :P

Bump...

Nobody took notice of this so yeah.

Bring back the trading forums as a section too, it makes them less difficult to find for new users.

[Richie]

I remember a lot of the spam clique were banned for various reasons, and yet we're sat here wondering why the forum isn't as active as it once was?

..thats what happens when you ban your faithful members.



A mass unban and a shift away from Habbo Hotel towards a more teen based forum. As much as I hate that expression, lets face it - thats where it is going.

I totally disagree. The ship is already filling up with water, doing something like that would sink us.



What I don't understand is why staff have additional forums to post random crap in. I don't mean to be a buzz kill but i believe many years ago those forums where originally created and still are meant to be used mainly for staff to talk about upcoming events or ideas within that department. That doesn't happen, lets be honest, if it does it's rare. Them forums just form groups which cut people out who haven't got those staff permissions.
This may sound absurd but would an additional forum be created for people in the ruby usergroup for example? No because it wouldn't be ideal or fair to members out of that usergroup but it seems to be just a normal thing for staff. I personally think private spam threads and threads that don't suit the staff forums have always and will always hurt the forum (As a community).

The answer in which got replied to question sometime ago was some bullcrap about staff needing to 'bond'. I'm pretty sure the staff forums have staff bonding anyway.The sad thing is the habbox staff only sections get more posts than some of the public forums nowadays which is absolutely crazy.

I seem to be always drifting back to some form of clique and i understand groups will always form but the thing is they have been formed by management without them even noticing (At least I hope so). That's just my opinion. I'm sure I grabbed the short straw in this argument but I don't really care if I have a problem with something I'm going to throw a childish strop about it, after all I am Richie.

[Showder]

Ehh, time moves on, things do too.
I do miss the summer holiday last year. Lots of spam posts :3

[wixard]

unban graham

[buttons]

I remember a lot of the spam clique were banned for various reasons, and yet we're sat here wondering why the forum isn't as active as it once was?

..thats what happens when you ban your faithful members.
ikr. & they were banned for the most stupidest reasons. lol i remember someone hacked loads of staff members, evidence was given etcetc but he didn't get banned until he argued with a staff member.
I WANT GRAHAM BACK. n maybe even saurav and immenseman. and wootzeh.
(this is the only post i read)

[wixard]

I was thinking saurav and Adam but Adam never really posted that much anyway

don't think jake would bother but mayb

[samsaBEAR]

when i look around the forum, i very rarely see new members posting. its usually all names that i recognise either from a long time ago like myself, and most of us have the same x amount of forums that we like to post in and stuff.
i think habbox needs to find a way to get more members to join, but having said that is habbo even as popular as it used to be? these days most kids have blackberrys and stuff, they dont really need habbo to chat to their buddies

[Lee]

I think its inevitable with what I would call a downfall of users playing Habbo.

[RyRy]

Why would we shift away from Habbo when that is our only and current main come of any new members what so ever? Habbo hasn't closed down yet and if they improve the support for fansites like they are promising and asking us for our ideas then there is no point turning into another ClubHabbo where they are just a forum and aren't really a Habbo fansite no more.

A mass unban would have to be a case by case because some members still deserve to be banned from this forum. Well, we are on about people who aren't allowed to create accounts on the forum. You also sound like we have banned a lot of members for no valid reasons, no one has been banned for unfair reasons for quite some time now. You and the people who have been banned may not think that of course but that is their opinion which they are entitled to have.

mfw when a member of management admits members are banned unfairly. :O

nah man really you get same old people on this forum, i dunno why people complain, sure it's nice to have some new members but its not the end of the world. reason people dont post so much anymore is that if you consider the age of some members right now, a lot of them are considering college/a-levels, like people did before, and people will soon after. forum aint gonna die, it just goes through phases innit.

[FlyingJesus]

the impression I got and still get is that the forum demographic is a lot older and less interested in Habbo, thats why I think maybe the usual argument of 'we cant allow swearing' and so on ought to be abolished. Or at the least, somehow the forum could be made to accomodate both older members and Habbo users.. somehow, perhaps make all non-Habbo forums come with a warning that they allow curse words and so on.

The average age of active users is increasing not only because of that terrible phenomenon which makes Tara get even more wrinkly but also because for years now there has been bugger all by way of new users becoming properly active compared to how it used to be, and this is something that still for some reason doesn't get addressed. I'm not a fan of the idea of allowing swearing as it's simply not something that's necessary really, but something definitely does need to change in order to make the place more accessible to a range of new users, rather than the usual claim that the way forward is even more events on Habbo where the same clique of already active members attends and overruns the entire thing


What I don't understand is why staff have additional forums to post random crap in. I don't mean to be a buzz kill but i believe many years ago those forums where originally created and still are meant to be used mainly for staff to talk about upcoming events or ideas within that department. That doesn't happen, lets be honest, if it does it's rare. Them forums just form groups which cut people out who haven't got those staff permissions.

Absolutely agree, the idea of staff spam and staff chat forums does nothing to help and everything to hurt. Dissuading your staff to interact with users is not the greatest plan for a forum, yet here it appears to be common practice.


The answer in which got replied to question sometime ago was some bullcrap about staff needing to 'bond'. I'm pretty sure the staff forums have staff bonding anyway.The sad thing is the habbox staff only sections get more posts than some of the public forums nowadays which is absolutely crazy.

I seem to be always drifting back to some form of clique and i understand groups will always form but the thing is they have been formed by management without them even noticing (At least I hope so). That's just my opinion. I'm sure I grabbed the short straw in this argument but I don't really care if I have a problem with something I'm going to throw a childish strop about it, after all I am Richie.

It's not often that I agree with Richie but his post here yesterday actually makes sense (crikey) and requires acting on. How often in these such threads do staff attempt to blame a clique system in spam which hasn't even existed since 2008 while they not only allow but promote and take part in the segregation of staff and user activity? If staff are that highly strung and/or socially incompetant that they can't possibly bring themselves to post without having their own hidden section for it, I think there's something quite wrong with the selection process in terms of hiring people to work for a community.

[Barkseh]

I agree. There always used to be a bit of banter going on, back in the day. It seems dead now.

[beth]

apparently i'm the only one in management who believes staff spam should be closed (even if temporarily to increase posting in the main forums). i'm frankly so worn out with the reasoning i'm seeing for keeping them open that i concede defeat.

not hapz.

[FlyingJesus]

Apparently the aggressive nature of one spam regular is the definition of clique activity and cause for staff to not post anywhere other than their own spam section - not even just staying out of regular spam, but literally not posting outside the staff area at all.

I seriously worry about how some people remember to breathe.

[The Don]

Pops in quickly...HI!

The decrease in forum activity stems from management (not just the current management) being far too strict. Habbox got away with it in the past as Habbo was thriving and the rare values reeled in a large amount of new members. With Habbo in decline, as well as the lack of support for fansites whilst combined with the rare values being made obsolete, habbox was always going to suffer in terms of activity.

It is quite obvious that we have an ageing population here which means we need to bring in the next generation, which doesn’t seem to be happening, this is why management need to focus on maintaining the current user base otherwise gradually more and more members will leave as they get fed up with the rules, move on to university, or get a job. As other have said, last year the primary member age was 16-17, which is most likely going to be 17-18 now. It puts people off coming on here, a place they’re supposed to enjoy coming to, when they get hounded with warning pm’s, infractions and whatever else. Even Habbo saw sense and implemented an opt out filtering option; I can’t work out why Habbox didn’t follow in its footsteps.

I don’t really know what else to say… But something needs to be done soon, however the wiki does look promising...
Tl;dr?

Habbox needs to focus equally on maintaining its current user base whilst also trying to attract new members because at the moment, it seems rather one-sided in the sense that Habbox doesn’t seem to cater for its older members. Probably because general management are only focusing on bringing in the next generation (doesn’t seem to be working), whilst neglecting the older, dedicated members.

^&*~fades back into the mist

[FlyingJesus]

The decrease in forum activity stems from management (not just the current management) being far too strict.

Absolutely cannot bring myself to agree with this. For all its faults, the management of Habbox at the moment is not strict - realistically it's a damaging opposite. The level of moderation for us lay people is about right at the moment (I've had a couple of dodgy edits on supposed "pointless" posts which were actually straightforward responses to the thread, but nothing too sinister) but the way in which staff are treated is so lax that things do have a tendency to fall apart.


last year the primary member age was 16-17

*Primary age of the very small number of members who responded to the poll


It puts people off coming on here, a place they’re supposed to enjoy coming to, when they get hounded with warning pm’s, infractions and whatever else. Even Habbo saw sense and implemented an opt out filtering option; I can’t work out why Habbox didn’t follow in its footsteps.

I really don't understand this. You don't get "hounded" with warnings and infractions unless you're breaking the rules, never have done. I'm very outspoken and have strong views on things and people which I express often, yet here I am with no infractions and only a single zero-point warning from over a month ago, and it's not like I'm friends with management or anything so it's not that there's any favouritism going on.


at the moment, it seems rather one-sided in the sense that Habbox doesn’t seem to cater for its older members. Probably because general management are only focusing on bringing in the next generation (doesn’t seem to be working), whilst neglecting the older, dedicated members.

Other than not allowing swearing (OMG WHATEVER WILL WE DO FOR CONVERSATION?!) I can't see anything that's directly affecting the way in which older members post, and since we've never been allowed to it's not like we miss being able to do so. What bonuses would you like for older members? It's not a case of anyone being unwilling, it's simply that there is nothing that can be done for an age group who really doesn't want anything

[The Don]

Absolutely cannot bring myself to agree with this. For all its faults, the management of Habbox at the moment is not strict - realistically it's a damaging opposite. The level of moderation for us lay people is about right at the moment (I've had a couple of dodgy edits on supposed "pointless" posts which were actually straightforward responses to the thread, but nothing too sinister) but the way in which staff are treated is so lax that things do have a tendency to fall apart.


The rules here are extremely strict, unless they have miraculously relaxed in the past couple of weeks I haven’t been active. You even noted yourself that you’ve receive a couple of edits for “pointless” posts. This is the same forum where if you post a filtered word, with only the first letter unfiltered, it’s classed as avoiding the forum. The same forum where you can’t post a video which contains mild language unless you give a warning and also hide it in a spoiler…



*Primary age of the very small number of members who responded to the poll


It's the only resource I have to make a judgement...



I really don't understand this. You don't get "hounded" with warnings and infractions unless you're breaking the rules, never have done. I'm very outspoken and have strong views on things and people which I express often, yet here I am with no infractions and only a single zero-point warning from over a month ago, and it's not like I'm friends with management or anything so it's not that there's any favouritism going on.


The point I’m trying to make is that the rules are too strict? I’m not denying that you only get punished if you break rules, it would be idiotic to think otherwise …



Other than not allowing swearing (OMG WHATEVER WILL WE DO FOR CONVERSATION?!) I can't see anything that's directly affecting the way in which older members post, and since we've never been allowed to it's not like we miss being able to do so. What bonuses would you like for older members? It's not a case of anyone being unwilling, it's simply that there is nothing that can be done for an age group who really doesn't want anything

I didn’t realise you had become the spokesperson for the older members of Habbox :P How do you know they don’t want anything? Have you asked them?

[FlyingJesus]

Your only argument seems to be a recurring YOU CAN'T SWEAR!!!!! - of course rules concerning filtered words will all have the same end, swearing is not allowed. The edits I got were the fault of the moderators in question seemingly being unable to read, not the fault of the rules that are in place. Seriously, swearing issues aside the rules here are not particularly strict.

No I have not asked each and every member over a certain age whether they'd like anything, but considering the fact that there is literally nothing more that makes any sense to give I imagine what we'd really like is money or food, which I don't think Hx is going to hand out. If there really is anything that would be of real benefit to older members that we don't currently have and wouldn't break forum rules then go ahead and state it

[Catzsy]

Your only argument seems to be a recurring YOU CAN'T SWEAR!!!!! - of course rules concerning filtered words will all have the same end, swearing is not allowed. The edits I got were the fault of the moderators in question seemingly being unable to read, not the fault of the rules that are in place. Seriously, swearing issues aside the rules here are not particularly strict.

No I have not asked each and every member over a certain age whether they'd like anything, but considering the fact that there is literally nothing more that makes any sense to give I imagine what we'd really like is money or food, which I don't think Hx is going to hand out. If there really is anything that would be of real benefit to older members that we don't currently have and wouldn't break forum rules then go ahead and state it

I agree with you. Thing is you can't break the rule 'a little bit' - it is the same as breaking the rule a lot so avoiding the filter by one letter is as bad as avoiding it completely. Things are way, way more lenient than they used to be. Infractions/warnings issued I would say are down by 500% since 2008 . I agree with you on the pointless posts and I feel that there should be more moderation guidance on it. As long as it is ontopic with the thread or something relevant in the thread then it should be left alone.