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Mathew
13-02-2012, 05:09 PM
What does everyone think? :)
I've just been clicking "Random Page" and I've come across a few good pages (amongst the "Coming Soon" images). One thing though is that I do think their should be some form of proper navigation on it because people won't really see any of the content unless they specifically search for it? Unless I'm completely missing the whole point of Wiki or failing to see a list of categories? :P
Looks good though and I know a lot of time and effort has been put into it! :)
-Charityy
13-02-2012, 05:19 PM
I agree with Mathew. I can't find a good way to navigate and it's very confusing. Especially when I have to keep clicking 'Random Page' and mostly just coming soon pages appear. It's hard to actually find the content.
I agree with Mathew. I can't find a good way to navigate and it's very confusing. Especially when I have to keep clicking 'Random Page' and mostly just coming soon pages appear. It's hard to actually find the content.
You can try searching something :)
I really like the concept and I'm looking forward to the finished concept.
Mr-Trainor
13-02-2012, 05:28 PM
As I said when I started working on it (although had to leave not long after!), I think it's a great idea and should be easy for people to find what they need. Although, I did just go to a random page and quickly spotted a few spelling/grammar errors :P. I think it's great that the community can get involved with submitting edits and things though, which can be done with the spelling errors but also when new events occur on Habbo :).
Mathew
13-02-2012, 05:31 PM
@kaylinboo the best way I've found is to visit the "Uncategorized files" page and just going down the list - http://habboxwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:UncategorizedPages&limit=500&offset=0
I've had a look at a lot more now and it's quite mind-boggling how much research must have gone into it (to find out when items were released, etc). Now I know why [@]@RemelKiid[/@] has been posting so many random questions! :P It's probably something I'd like to contribute to sooner or later.
jasey
13-02-2012, 05:33 PM
Although, I did just go to a random page and quickly spotted a few spelling/grammar errors.
This. It's a great idea, though! I can't wait to see it evolve.
xxMATTGxx
13-02-2012, 05:34 PM
There is also this page: http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/Special:AllPages. But Ben and the wiki gang can definitely look into making the navigation a lot easier though! The Wiki has certainly come along way and it's so good to finally see it being released even in a pre-release state. It's going to look fantastic over the upcoming months when additional content has been added. Big thanks to all of the staff who have worked on this! :)
Inseriousity.
13-02-2012, 05:35 PM
Very good idea. Well done to dave for getting something that makes it editable by users/approved by content designers. well done to the content designers and zuth for working round the clock on varying mundane details about Habbo to give an extensiveoverview of what's what.
Agree about the categories ideathough. :)
Mr-Trainor
13-02-2012, 05:36 PM
There is also this page: http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/Special:AllPages. But Ben and the wiki gang can definitely look into making the navigation a lot easier though! The Wiki has certainly come along way and it's so good to finally see it being released even in a pre-release state. It's going to look fantastic over the upcoming months when additional content has been added. Big thanks to all of the staff who have worked on this! :)
Yea that page is great for now, but if there could be categories than that would make it much easier to find what you need, particularly when the aim is that there'll be 700+ pages or something like that :P.
It will be great over time. Maybe it could use Habbox's graph on the when talking about rares, so people can see their decline/incline.
The first thing I searched (Throne).. had a spelling mistake on the first line. Needs to be more professionally written too.. but I suppose that will come with time :P
I personally think there should be a team dedicated to this as well? Up keep, writing new sections and so forth? Has that been setup yet?
Just to clear a few things up, categories will be added pretty soon to make navigating the site easier, I'll post a thread when this is done. Any grammar/spelling issues can be fixed by your self if you make an account. The coming soon pages can also be added to by you, we are currently still adding content to the pages though, once again, Ill post a thread when some more content has been added :) So far, thanks for all the positive comments, this wiki has been worked on for at least 4 months so its a great relief to release it as a pre-release state!
Vause
13-02-2012, 05:44 PM
It's abit.. all over the place. Only Matt's name is bolded on the main page and there is far too many "!" after every sentence. But i'm sure with time it'll become great.
It will be great over time. Maybe it could use Habbox's graph on the when talking about rares, so people can see their decline/incline.
The first thing I searched (Throne).. had a spelling mistake on the first line. Needs to be more professionally written too.. but I suppose that will come with time :P
I personally think there should be a team dedicated to this as well? Up keep, writing new sections and so forth? Has that been setup yet?
I also wouldn't mind a dedicated team as It would be allot easier to manage the main site/wiki!
---------- Post added 13-02-2012 at 05:46 PM ----------
It's abit.. all over the place. Only Matt's name is bolded on the main page and there is far too many "!" after every sentence. But i'm sure with time it'll become great.
The home page is only temporary and things will be sorted into categories over time :P
I also wouldn't mind a dedicated team as It would be allot easier to manage the main site/wiki!
Would be a good idea, esp because it needs a lot of content to get it up to date. O and I created an account, I'll be editing things from time to time, like that spelling mistake :P
Mr-Trainor
13-02-2012, 05:48 PM
It will be great over time. Maybe it could use Habbox's graph on the when talking about rares, so people can see their decline/incline.
The first thing I searched (Throne).. had a spelling mistake on the first line. Needs to be more professionally written too.. but I suppose that will come with time :P
I personally think there should be a team dedicated to this as well? Up keep, writing new sections and so forth? Has that been setup yet?
There are staff in the content department who work on it, but everyone can contribute by making an account and editing a page; although it has to be approved before it goes live. As for spelling mistakes, you can correct them yourself, but I do agree that some of it could have been written more professionally. Anyway, we can edit it as can anyone else, so it isn't too much of a problem :D.
There are staff in the content department who work on it, but everyone can contribute by making an account and editing a page; although it has to be approved before it goes live. As for spelling mistakes, you can correct them yourself, but I do agree that some of it could have been written more professionally. Anyway, we can edit it as can anyone else, so it isn't too much of a problem :D.
Yeh yeh I've just created an account so I'll correct anything I don't think is quite right :P
i hate to rain on the parade and it's nice to give habbox as many dimensions as possible when fansites face a tough time but i just don't get it. overhyped, i just, not for me.
I'm not going to go making a list of excuses for " but I do agree that some of it could have been written more professionally" I also agree, but we have always been under pressure to get the wiki out sooner!
I'm not going to go making a list of excuses for " but I do agree that some of it could have been written more professionally" I also agree, but we have always been under pressure to get the wiki out sooner!
Don't feel under pressure. This is Habbox, you give your time up for free. They should be thankful they have people like you! :P
I think it's a really good idea Ben. It will all come together with time, I'm sure everyone understands the situation. Habbo needs a good Wiki to be honest, it's cool to learn about the history of some items on the hotel. Man I'm sad. :)
Don't feel under pressure. This is Habbox, you give your time up for free. They should be thankful they have people like you! :P
I think it's a really good idea Ben. It will all come together with time, I'm sure everyone understands the situation. Habbo needs a good Wiki to be honest, it's cool to learn about the history of some items on the hotel. Man I'm sad. :)
Haha, It's gona take some time to finish, but It should be worth it :)
Okay so I've only looked at this very briefly but does something like this not defeat the purpose of the HxHD?
Mr-Trainor
13-02-2012, 06:08 PM
Okay so I've only looked at this very briefly but does something like this not defeat the purpose of the HxHD?
The Habbox Wiki,I'im assuming, is aimed at providing a more detailed history of particular elements of Habbo. Whereas the Habbox Help Desk as I see it, is more for smaller problems/issues, or questions which don't require a highly detailed response. Hopefully you see what I'm trying to say :P. There's also the issue that not everyone behind HxHD will know about everything that can be found in Habbox Wiki.
The Habbox Wiki,I'im assuming, is aimed at providing a more detailed history of particular elements of Habbo. Whereas the Habbox Help Desk as I see it, is more for smaller problems/issues, or questions which don't require a highly detailed response. Hopefully you see what I'm trying to say :P. There's also the issue that not everyone behind HxHD will know about everything that can be found in Habbox Wiki.
Totally agree with this.
The Habbox Wiki,I'im assuming, is aimed at providing a more detailed history of particular elements of Habbo. Whereas the Habbox Help Desk as I see it, is more for smaller problems/issues, or questions which don't require a highly detailed response. Hopefully you see what I'm trying to say :P. There's also the issue that not everyone behind HxHD will know about everything that can be found in Habbox Wiki.
Just to back up my point I went onto the site and clicked "Random Page" until I had five pages that weren't marked with "This page is coming soon". I do understand there's a lot more pages there and I lot more to be released but just using it as a somewhat example. People in the HxHD should be expected to know this type of stuff in the first place.
http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Call_For_Help (http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Call_For_Help)
http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Wall_Paper
http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Fallin_Furni
http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Habbo_Homes
http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Rugs
Also, I can see the HxHD Staff taking advantage of this site, feature, whatever! Would it not just make them lazy and refer people to the Wiki? I know that's what happened with the events page. If someone came into the desk asking where the event was they said "Check www.habbox.com/events" instead of going and checking themselves.
Mr-Trainor
13-02-2012, 06:21 PM
Just to back up my point I went onto the site and clicked "Random Page" until I had five pages that weren't marked with "This page is coming soon". I do understand there's a lot more pages there and I lot more to be released but just using it as a somewhat example. People in the HxHD should be expected to know this type of stuff in the first place.
http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Call_For_Help (http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Call_For_Help)
http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Wall_Paper
http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Fallin_Furni
http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Habbo_Homes
http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Rugs
Also, I can see the HxHD Staff taking advantage of this site, feature, whatever! Would it not just make them lazy and refer people to the Wiki? I know that's what happened with the events page. If someone came into the desk asking where the event was they said "Check www.habbox.com/events" instead of going and checking themselves.
With the events, it would be nice in the staff did tell the person themselves rather than telling them to check the events page. I agree that some of the pages are a bit simple in terms of the information they provide and that the staff should already know it, and hopefully the staff will still answer the questions they can answer, but then at the end maybe they'll say 'check out the Habbox Wiki for more' or something.
I'm not too sure on it at the moment. I don't understand why is was created because if anyone wanted to find out any information surely they would go to HxHD? I know it's not just claiming to help people but it all just seems pointless to me. A lot of the pages already created are associated with things which a lot of people already know. I might end up changing my mind once it as progressed but it certainly doesn't appeal to me at the moment.
David
13-02-2012, 06:31 PM
Links open in the same page, that personally annoys me.
But I like the idea, should be good in time.
needs a better logo too.
I'm not too sure on it at the moment. I don't understand why is was created because if anyone wanted to find out any information surely they would go to HxHD? I know it's not just claiming to help people but it all just seems pointless to me. A lot of the pages already created are associated with things which a lot of people already know. I might end up changing my mind once it as progressed but it certainly doesn't appeal to me at the moment.
I'm pretty sure HxHD staff could not remember/know pretty much everything to do with Habbo and little if not any of the background information, this is no way taking over HxHD IMO as HxHD is a place where habbo's goes for small question/info, the wiki will be a much quicker and detailed guide, I'm sure the Help desk will not be effected by the site.
I'm pretty sure HxHD staff could not remember/know pretty much everything to do with Habbo and little if not any of the background information, this is no way taking over HxHD IMO as HxHD is a place where habbo's goes for small question/info, the wiki will be a much quicker and detailed guide, I'm sure the Help desk will not be effected by the site.
I'm not saying it's going to take over HxHD. If anything I'm saying that it's pointless because of HxHD being there. If a user wanted help with anything then they would be able to visit the room and get told all of the relevant information they need to know. A lot of the content which you have already got on the pages is already quite obvious to everyone anyway if you ask me. However, like I said in my other post although it doesn't appeal to me at the moment I may change my mind as pages and features get added.
Mr-Trainor
13-02-2012, 06:49 PM
I'm not saying it's going to take over HxHD. If anything I'm saying that it's pointless because of HxHD being there. If a user wanted help with anything then they would be able to visit the room get told all of the relevant information they need to know. A lot of the content which you have already got on the pages is already quite obvious to everyone anyway if you ask me. However, like I said in my other post although it doesn't appeal to me at the moment I may change my mind as pages and features get added.
Although some of the content on the Wiki may be obvious to you, it may not be obvious to everyone. There's also a lot of less-obvious content, particular dates and history for particular elements of Habbo.
I'm not saying it's going to take over HxHD. If anything I'm saying that it's pointless because of HxHD being there. If a user wanted help with anything then they would be able to visit the room and get told all of the relevant information they need to know. A lot of the content which you have already got on the pages is already quite obvious to everyone anyway if you ask me. However, like I said in my other post although it doesn't appeal to me at the moment I may change my mind as pages and features get added.
I don't think this will interfere with HxHD at all. In fact, I remember that when I was HxHD staff back in '10 there were talks about having something like this. People still come in hxhd asking for help with finding rare values despite the rare value page on habbox.com.
Although some of the content on the Wiki may be obvious to you, it may not be obvious to everyone. There's also a lot of less-obvious content, particular dates and history for particular elements of Habbo.
If someone wanted to know any of the information which may not be as obvious to them then they could stroll on into the Help Desk. :8
Its not like all the other information is going to help them anyway really, it's also not going to help Habbox either if you ask me.
I'm not saying it's going to take over HxHD. If anything I'm saying that it's pointless because of HxHD being there. If a user wanted help with anything then they would be able to visit the room and get told all of the relevant information they need to know. A lot of the content which you have already got on the pages is already quite obvious to everyone anyway if you ask me. However, like I said in my other post although it doesn't appeal to me at the moment I may change my mind as pages and features get added.
What if no one was in HxHD? What if they wanted more information? Then the wiki would be perfect, even if those didn't apply, maybe a HxHD staff member could say, it does this that and another, view here for more info: www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/throne for example. As we progress with the wiki more detailed content will be added by the content staff or the public.
Martin
13-02-2012, 06:53 PM
I think if anything it will be beneficial to HxHD staff, since they should be able to link users to the wiki which should help them solve their problems, so a win for everyone. Of course they can explain stuff first, since some people prefer a step by step guide with someone explaining things to them etc, whereas others may want the information in front of them in the form of a guide- so its good that we are providing this service. Also at times when HxHD is unnoccupied there is a constant place where help can be obtained. As others have said, its going to be nice to have a solid list of guides in one place where they are easy to find, nice and detailed. The help given in HxHD is often simple things which can be explained quite easily, wheras these guides can be used for much more. I really like the idea and I know that a lot of people have put a lot of hard work into getting all these pages set up, so kudos to everyone involved! :)
Mr-Trainor
13-02-2012, 06:54 PM
If someone wanted to know any of the information which may not be as obvious to them then they could stroll on into the Help Desk. :8
Its not like all the other information is going to help then anyway really, it's also not going to help Habbox either if you ask me.
I suppose that's true, but again; there's also the less obvious content. If I went in the help desk now and asked when the throne was first released on the UK hotel, not all of the HxHD staff there may be aware of the exact answer to that - whereas the Wiki can give me the answer :P. There's also the fact that there isn't staff in the HxHD 24/7, and people may need a quick answer.
xxMATTGxx
13-02-2012, 06:55 PM
If someone wanted to know any of the information which may not be as obvious to them then they could stroll on into the Help Desk. :8
Its not like all the other information is going to help them anyway really, it's also not going to help Habbox either if you ask me.
Well it's not all about helping people. Some users may find the information interesting, it's like looking up something on Wikipedia and reading the full page on it because you are indeed interested or needed to know that specific topic. The HabboxWiki is the same sort of thing, it can help and also provide information to users who wish to use it. It won't affect the HxHD at all.
Staff will never be able to go into the detail that the wiki will anyway?
Also, if a staff member is unsure on an item or something they could search for it on the wiki then tell the user "what something is" or "how to do something", or "where to find something" etc
I have quickly re-written the throne example. Hope it isn't well.. . ****
edit: spotted a poorly written segment already near the end. That's what i get for doing it quickly and not proof-reading my work XD
David
13-02-2012, 07:02 PM
Say I don't want to edit a page, how about a report page feature pls
I don't think this will interfere with HxHD at all. In fact, I remember that when I was HxHD staff back in '10 there were talks about having something like this. People still come in hxhd asking for help with finding rare values despite the rare value page on habbox.com.
I'm not really saying that it will interfere with HxHD as much. I just don't feel like it's going to be as useful to users apart from informing then with information they already know.
What if no one was in HxHD? What if they wanted more information? Then the wiki would be perfect, even if those didn't apply, maybe a HxHD staff member could say, it does this that and another, view here for more info: www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/throne for example. As we progress with the wiki more detailed content will be added by the content staff or the public.
I know what you mean but it's not often that someone would come into HxHD asking about the history of a particular piece of furniture. It's a nice feature but pointless atm.
I suppose that's true, but again; there's also the less obvious content. If I went in the help desk now and asked when the throne was first released on the UK hotel, not all of the HxHD staff there may be aware of the exact answer to that - whereas the Wiki can give me the answer :P. There's also the fact that there isn't staff in the HxHD 24/7, and people may need a quick answer.
It's not often that someone would ask a question like that. I don't understand how this is going to be helpful to anyone apart from informing them of specific dates and information which they already know of.
Well it's not all about helping people. Some users may find the information interesting, it's like looking up something on Wikipedia and reading the full page on it because you are indeed interested or needed to know that specific topic. The HabboxWiki is the same sort of thing, it can help and also provide information to users who wish to use it. It won't affect the HxHD at all.
I know it's not all about helping people. If it becomes popular and everyone reads all of the pages on the site then that's great but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
xxMATTGxx
13-02-2012, 07:06 PM
You keep saying these users know this information already. How do you know this? I don't believe for one second every single Habbo on Habbo.com that currently use it know all the information that would be included on this wiki. Not everyone will use it, that's a fact but some users may and if they do then that's great.
I'm not really saying that it will interfere with HxHD as much. I just don't feel like it's going to be as useful to users apart from informing then with information they already know.
I don' think that's necessarily true. I'm sure it will be informative for users like myself who don't really go on habbo on a regular basis and want to get up to date with all the changes.
You keep saying these users know this information already. How do you know this? I don't believe for one second every single Habbo on Habbo.com that currently use it know all the information that would be included on this wiki. Not everyone will use it, that's a fact but some users may and if they do then that's great.
I don't know that but as I've said in a few posts before, once it progresses and more pages and features get added it'll probably be different. At the moment I don't feel that there are enough pages that are filled with information which couldn't be easily given to someone through HxHD.
I don' think that's necessarily true. I'm sure it will be informative for users like myself who don't really go on habbo on a regular basis and want to get up to date with all the changes.
Once that information has been updated and added to the site then yeah you're right. At the moment it's pointless though.
I don't know that but as I've said in a few posts before, once it progresses and more pages and features get added it'll probably be different. At the moment I don't feel that there are enough pages that are filled with information which couldn't be easily given to someone through HxHD.
Once that information has been updated and added to the site then yeah you're right. At the moment it's pointless though.
That's fair enough but its not the completed version yet
Staff will never be able to go into the detail that the wiki will anyway?
Also, if a staff member is unsure on an item or something they could search for it on the wiki then tell the user "what something is" or "how to do something", or "where to find something" etc
I have quickly re-written the throne example. Hope it isn't well.. . ****
edit: spotted a poorly written segment already near the end. That's what i get for doing it quickly and not proof-reading my work XD
Looks like someone has fixed it for you!
Say I don't want to edit a page, how about a report page feature pls
If you want to report a page for some reason then send me a PM or post it in the bug tracker forum.
That's fair enough but its not the completed version yet
I know which is why I said what I said in my first post.
I'm not too sure on it at the moment. I don't understand why is was created because if anyone wanted to find out any information surely they would go to HxHD? I know it's not just claiming to help people but it all just seems pointless to me. A lot of the pages already created are associated with things which a lot of people already know. I might end up changing my mind once it as progressed but it certainly doesn't appeal to me at the moment.
xxMATTGxx
13-02-2012, 07:18 PM
I don't know that but as I've said in a few posts before, once it progresses and more pages and features get added it'll probably be different. At the moment I don't feel that there are enough pages that are filled with information which couldn't be easily given to someone through HxHD.
Once that information has been updated and added to the site then yeah you're right. At the moment it's pointless though.
Well yes but you are talking about a pre-release version of the Wiki. It's sort of like a beta, it will have it's problems and it will progress over the months with the changes to the content it has now, additional content and more features such as an easier way to navigate around the wiki. It has a use and if it gets used then it's a success.
I know which is why I said what I said in my first post.
Oh right, fair enough :P
imo we can't really judge it as of yet based on the fact that its not completed. I think the pre-release was a good idea so people who have reserved opinions on it like yourself can have their input on it and can help make it a better source of information.
CrazyLemurs
13-02-2012, 07:24 PM
Just casually changing pages for grammar errors and capitals. When applications open for this, will it be its own department 'Wiki' or will it be a subdivision of Content?
Well yes but you are talking about a pre-release version of the Wiki. It's sort of like a beta, it will have it's problems and it will progress over the months with the changes to the content it has now, additional content and more features such as an easier way to navigate around the wiki. It has a use and if it gets used then it's a success.
I'm hoping it will become a success and other useful information is added. Only time will tell though!
Oh right, fair enough :P
imo we can't really judge it as of yet based on the fact that its not completed. I think the pre-release was a good idea so people who have reserved opinions on it like yourself can have their input on it and can help make it a better source of information.
I thought this is what this thread was for though? to judge the site on what it's like at the moment. I'm not fully against it with banners in the air. I just don't think it's useful to anyone at the moment. However, if additional information and features are added and it proves to be useful then I've got no problems with it at all.
xxMATTGxx
13-02-2012, 07:29 PM
Just casually changing pages for grammar errors and capitals. When applications open for this, will it be its own department 'Wiki' or will it be a subdivision of Content?
At the moment it's part of the Content Department and you would be known as a Content Designer. If there is enough interest we could always separate them and then the staff could just work and be known as the Wiki staff.
I'm hoping it will become a success and other useful information is added. Only time will tell though!
I thought this is what this thread was for though? to judge the site on what it's like at the moment. I'm not fully against it with banners in the air. I just don't think it's useful to anyone at the moment. However, if additional information and features are added and it proves to be useful then I've got no problems with it at all.
That's right but my point being is that obviously the standard of the site isn't what we would expect as its only pre-release at the moment :P
CrazyLemurs
13-02-2012, 07:31 PM
At the moment it's part of the Content Department and you would be known as a Content Designer. If there is enough interest we could always separate them and then the staff could just work and be known as the Wiki staff.
Oh because then people applying to edit the Wiki would be Content. Would these new Content Designers be solely for managing the Wiki or have to mingle with the other Content parts?
xxMATTGxx
13-02-2012, 07:34 PM
Oh because then people applying to edit the Wiki would be Content. Would these new Content Designers be solely for managing the Wiki or have to mingle with the other Content parts?
Well at the moment if you became a member of the Content department you would be working on any content on Habbox, so the main site and also the wiki. It's not currently separated at all. But we will look into it being Wiki only if there is a good enough interest.
Oh because then people applying to edit the Wiki would be Content. Would these new Content Designers be solely for managing the Wiki or have to mingle with the other Content parts?
If we did have a extra department (I would prefer to!) then it would only be for the wiki!
Lewis
13-02-2012, 07:46 PM
How do I navigate through things and search? LMAO
totally against adding another department just to deal with updating the wiki. [@]@mathew[/@] has raised the point before about the majority of the active community being staff, and i feel it'd just be another department we don't really need. y'know i'm not a content designer myself, but i can't imagine they are THAT busy they cannot deal with updating a wiki once a day.
xxMATTGxx
13-02-2012, 07:55 PM
How do I navigate through things and search? LMAO
There's a search bar on the top right hand corner where you can type in anything you want and it will be bring up a related page. There is links to find all pages that have been posted in previous pages and I'm sure we will make it easier for users to navigate very soon.
totally against adding another department just to deal with updating the wiki. [@]@mathew[/@] has raised the point before about the majority of the active community being staff, and i feel it'd just be another department we don't really need. y'know i'm not a content designer myself, but i can't imagine they are THAT busy they cannot deal with updating a wiki once a day.
I wouldn't personally class it as a whole new department. I mean the current department and staff could switch from Main site to wiki and so on if they really wanted to. But I've already said it shouldn't be separated for now.
How do I navigate through things and search? LMAO
At the moment we don't have navigation but search something in the search bar.
totally against adding another department just to deal with updating the wiki. [@]@mathew[/@] has raised the point before about the majority of the active community being staff, and i feel it'd just be another department we don't really need. y'know i'm not a content designer myself, but i can't imagine they are THAT busy they cannot deal with updating a wiki once a day.
At the moment we are not very busy, however I'm planning on doing something big with Habbox.com for a few months soon so we wont have too much time, its not how busy we are anyway, It would make life easier for me.
HotelUser
13-02-2012, 08:14 PM
I'm not too sure on it at the moment. I don't understand why is was created because if anyone wanted to find out any information surely they would go to HxHD? I know it's not just claiming to help people but it all just seems pointless to me. A lot of the pages already created are associated with things which a lot of people already know. I might end up changing my mind once it as progressed but it certainly doesn't appeal to me at the moment.
Okay so I've only looked at this very briefly but does something like this not defeat the purpose of the HxHD?
The majority of folks whom ask questions in HxHD are new users who often don't even know about Habbox. It is also incorrect to say that the Wiki makes HxHD even in partirrelevantbecause HxHD was never the only help source when it came to Habbo in the first place. The Wiki is a great center of Habbo knowledge for anyone to view and add to themselves, wherein HxHD is still a useful tool for new Habbos to ask their questions.
Looks like someone has fixed it for you!
Nope it's still there :P
wiktoria
13-02-2012, 08:31 PM
now everyone says hi HABBOX Wiki to me lol :|
I don't like it at the moment but when all the pages are done i'm sure it'll be fab!
totally been named after me (A)
Inseriousity.
13-02-2012, 08:38 PM
totally against adding another department just to deal with updating the wiki. [@]@mathew[/@] has raised the point before about the majority of the active community being staff, and i feel it'd just be another department we don't really need. y'know i'm not a content designer myself, but i can't imagine they are THAT busy they cannot deal with updating a wiki once a day.
Agree with this. In fact rather radical opinion here but if it kicks off and utilizes its potential, you could argue that the content department could just stop with the main site workand focus on the wiki alone.
I'd like to see the wiki branch out into Habbox stuff. Seems a waste to have it only limited to Habbo information when we could provide information about Habbox stuffand people could have their own pages (which would be misawa's dream)or limit it to'hall of fame'people buteither way,just adds more to the interactivity of the place imo. :D
---------- Post added 13-02-2012 at 08:39 PM ----------
now everyone says hi HABBOX Wiki to me lol :|
I don't like it at the moment but when all the pages are done i'm sure it'll be fab!
totally been named after me (A)
LOL when everyone was like 'WHAT'S HXW' and you were in the room talking i was like LOLOLOL THERE'S A BIG CLUE RIGHT THERE.
Alex3213
13-02-2012, 08:41 PM
Agree with this. In fact rather radical opinion here but if it kicks off and utilizes its potential, you could argue that the content department could just stop with the main site workand focus on the wiki alone.
I'd like to see the wiki branch out into Habbox stuff. Seems a waste to have it only limited to Habbo information when we could provide information about Habbox stuffand people could have their own pages (which would be misawa's dream)or limit it to'hall of fame'people buteither way,just adds more to the interactivity of the place imo. :D
I'm in agreement with all of this post. There is absolutely no need for a new department, especially if it's editable by anyone who's registered in the first place and there are of course five content designers who could give up some of the time they normally spend on the main site for the wiki for the next couple of weeks.
I also agree with it expanding to Habbox stuff as well - it's an opportunity to you have which just seems to be wasted otherwise.
What do you mean by Habbox stuff? Departments? Events? Comps? Etc...?
Mathew
13-02-2012, 08:45 PM
The purpose of the Habbox Wiki, in my eyes, is to create a complete log or a history of Habbo, if you will. To my knowledge, there isn't a site which has a complete record of the past 10 years of Habbo, and I think HxW has the potential to fulfil this. It's not so much there to help people with their day-to-day questions; it should be a good source of information just to read for old time's sake. I didn't read the Hall of Fame and Department Pages on Habbox.com to find anything out, I did it for pure enjoyment. Why can't the same happen here?
My concern is that Habbox.com will become neglected, but then it begs the question as to where you want to start recording things. Do Department Pages and Habbox History stay on Habbox.com? Should the "Goodies" page be moved to HxW? What about the guides? It would probably be best making a list of each page on Habbox.com and then seeing if anything can be transferred - once we've got some decent, valid statistics about activity figures on both sites, of course.
As Alex has said above - there's no need to split the department in two because the HxW should be created by the members. That's the point in a Wiki after all. People share knowledge and create a good, solid, reliable history of Habbo - Content Designer can approve it, naturally. As for expanding to Habbox - sure, I wouldn't mind a Habbox Events page! :P
Nope it's still there :P
I know why, its because someone edited it after you, I had to approve it, I obviously approved the latest one, add what you want now and maybe it will work.
Inseriousity.
13-02-2012, 08:46 PM
Everything Habbo related and everything Habbox related so yeah information on departments, history, people, significant events/news/gossip etc etc.
The purpose of the Habbox Wiki, in my eyes, is to create a complete log or a history of Habbo, if you will. To my knowledge, there isn't a site which has a complete record of the past 10 years of Habbo, and I think HxW has the potential to fulfil this. It's not so much there to help people with their day-to-day questions; it should be a good source of information just to read for old time's sake. I didn't read the Hall of Fame and Department Pages on Habbox.com to find anything out, I did it for pure enjoyment. Why can't the same happen here?
My concern is that Habbox.com will become neglected, but then it begs the question as to where you want to start recording things. Do Department Pages and Habbox History stay on Habbox.com? Should the "Goodies" page be moved to HxW? What about the guides? It would probably be best making a list of each page on Habbox.com and then seeing if anything can be transferred - once we've got some decent, valid statistics about activity figures on both sites, of course.
I'm planning something big on Habbox.com to ensure the guides dont get forgotten, it take a few months but it should ensure people don't forget the habbox.com guides!
---------- Post added 13-02-2012 at 08:48 PM ----------
Everything Habbo related and everything Habbox related so yeah information on departments, history, people, significant events/news/gossip etc etc.
We already have a few pages on:
Habbox.com
HabboxWiki
HabboxForum
HabboxLive
I'll make sure department pages, events, comps etc gets added in the near future.
Chippiewill
13-02-2012, 09:35 PM
I think I've made a radical improvement to the formatting of the HxF page, that was just scroll, scroll, scroll before. Also you should make heavy use of the talk pages, they're a good way to chuck suggestions about.
I think I've made a radical improvement to the formatting of the HxF page, that was just scroll, scroll, scroll before. Also you should make heavy use of the talk pages, they're a good way to chuck suggestions about.
I need to learn more about the talk pages, thanks for the edit, someone will check it soon.
Chippiewill
13-02-2012, 09:46 PM
I need to learn more about the talk pages, thanks for the edit, someone will check it soon.
It's literally just a second page which goes with every other page that's a free-for-all so people can discuss whether something should be added to the page or not (Generally whether or not something in-depth should be added).
It's literally just a second page which goes with every other page that's a free-for-all so people can discuss whether something should be added to the page or not (Generally whether or not something in-depth should be added).
Thanks for the info, I'll try and encourage this in the next update!
Chippiewill
13-02-2012, 09:54 PM
Thanks for the info, I'll try and encourage this in the next update!
You might also want to allow "User:<accountname>" pages, they don't show up on anything except for recent changes and are quite useful for communication and warning users who are destructive.
Also you might want to get the privacy policy page setup (And now that I look for one the forum doesn't have one either?!)
You might also want to allow "User:<accountname>" pages, they don't show up on anything except for recent changes and are quite useful for communication and warning users who are destructive.
Also you might want to get the privacy policy page setup (And now that I look for one the forum doesn't have one either?!)
Account pages may also be implemented in the future, we will see how things go! Thanks for the suggestions, I'll defo look into them!
Chippiewill
13-02-2012, 10:04 PM
Account pages may also be implemented in the future, we will see how things go! Thanks for the suggestions, I'll defo look into them!
Also can you add nav boxes, they're the linking modules at the bottom of wikipedia pages, I believe you have to add them seperately.
Edit: Adding redirects for some of yourpages e.g. HxF now redirects to HabboxForum, HxL goes to HabboxLive, HxW goes to Habbox_Wiki.
Mr-Trainor
13-02-2012, 10:22 PM
If we did have a extra department (I would prefer to!) then it would only be for the wiki!
totally against adding another department just to deal with updating the wiki. [@]@mathew[/@] has raised the point before about the majority of the active community being staff, and i feel it'd just be another department we don't really need. y'know i'm not a content designer myself, but i can't imagine they are THAT busy they cannot deal with updating a wiki once a day.
I personally disagree with an extra department for the Wiki. Once all the pages are added, there won't really be much more to do other than adding a new page every so often and looking at the edits awaiting approval. Another reason is simply that it is a Wiki; the members are able to contribute to it and edit the content, so there's no need for a whole new department in my eyes.
I'd like to see the wiki branch out into Habbox stuff. Seems a waste to have it only limited to Habbo information when we could provide information about Habbox stuffand people could have their own pages (which would be misawa's dream)or limit it to'hall of fame'people buteither way,just adds more to the interactivity of the place imo.
I agree with pages in regards to Habbox; I was speaking to Alex about this earlier :P. It is called HabboxWiki after all and I don't see why there couldn't be pages which relate to particular elements of Habbox, especially if there's going to be categories added.
iLogan
13-02-2012, 10:34 PM
In terms of people creating new pages it's not allowed :(
I've had to delete all user-created pages but if you'd like a page to be created then feel free to PM [@]@Zuth[/@]
k it confuses me alot
but i like how the hxw changes colour (A)
Chippiewill
13-02-2012, 11:09 PM
Suggestions:
- Allow users to setup redirects e.g. HxL page would redirect to HabboxLive
- Standardise URL format, either HabboxLive or Habbox_Live, currently this changes a lot, I would suggest the latter.
- Allow users to use talk pages to discuss how to improve the page
- Allow users / Staff to start setting up categories.
Edit:
- The "rainbow" logo is nice, however I've found it can increase page loading time a lot on occasion.
wheres the page about yupt omg what is this.
I think it should have waited personally. I can find a lots of grammatical errors floating around. Also, I am disappointed it was not as detailed as I would have liked it to have been. Take for example, the Throne article: http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/Throne. It is very vague. There is no mention of the fact that it was super-rare or nearly non existent on other hotels such as Habbo.sg and Habbo.com before the merge. You must remember, we do not share the same histories anymore and stating a single history for it is like generalizing. This is a big problem in itself.
Also, it is very rigid when reading, you repeat the sentence "The Throne" over 4/5 times and it just sounds unprofessional. This is simply for one article, I didn't bother going to read more.
Although I am skeptical on this and think it is one of those sensations that will probably die out like HxTV and whatnot. This is because the actual Wikipedia is successful because it is so broad. By this wiki, your audience is extremely narrow and I'm not sure how many hits you'll get atm without making it sound and look better, whilst also making it more detailed.
xxMATTGxx
13-02-2012, 11:30 PM
I think it should have waited personally. I can find a lots of grammatical errors floating around. Also, I am disappointed it was not as detailed as I would have liked it to have been. Take for example, the Throne article: http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/Throne. It is very vague. There is no mention of the fact that it was super-rare or nearly non existent on other hotels such as Habbo.sg and Habbo.com before the merge. You must remember, we do not share the same histories anymore and stating a single history for it is like generalizing. This is a big problem in itself.
Also, it is very rigid when reading, you repeat the sentence "The Throne" over 4/5 times and it just sounds unprofessional. This is simply for one article, I didn't bother going to read more.
Although I am skeptical on this and think it is one of those sensations that will probably die out like HxTV and whatnot. This is because the actual Wikipedia is successful because it is so broad. By this wiki, your audience is extremely narrow and I'm not sure how many hits you'll get atm without making it sound and look better, whilst also making it more detailed.
I can see what you mean but with it being open to the public, it's great to get feedback on how it can be improved. Plus it helps when users can also spot these errors, even edit the pages for improvement and then one of the content designers can approve such changes. Yes spelling and grammar should be correct the first time round but not everyone is perfect.
In terms of it dying out, well it could do but the information can still be a use to anyone who comes across it and if it gets updated when anything changes on Habbo then it shouldn't be too much of a problem. It's just one of those things that is nice having I suppose.
Also can you add nav boxes, they're the linking modules at the bottom of wikipedia pages, I believe you have to add them seperately.
Edit: Adding redirects for some of yourpages e.g. HxF now redirects to HabboxForum, HxL goes to HabboxLive, HxW goes to Habbox_Wiki.
What do you mean by nav boxes? Also, I'ma make a few changes so Non Staff can create pages.
k it confuses me alot
but i like how the hxw changes colour (A)
Whats confusing?
Suggestions:
- Allow users to setup redirects e.g. HxL page would redirect to HabboxLive
- Standardise URL format, either HabboxLive or Habbox_Live, currently this changes a lot, I would suggest the latter.
- Allow users to use talk pages to discuss how to improve the page
- Allow users / Staff to start setting up categories.
Edit:
- The "rainbow" logo is nice, however I've found it can increase page loading time a lot on occasion.
Re-directs are a nice idea and as I say, I am just about to change a few things so non staff can make new pages.
The URL's should hopefully be fixed in the near future
I assume a user needs to create the talk page first? If so, as I say, I'm changing a few things in a minute.
I don't want users creating categories as of yet so I'll start creating those soon.
Just to clarify, users are now aloud to create pages on the wiki if they are appropriate!
Chippiewill
14-02-2012, 09:29 AM
Re-directs are a nice idea and as I say, I am just about to change a few things so non staff can make new pages.
Awesome. I'll make some Talk pages then where they're needed.
The URL's should hopefully be fixed in the near future
I've just moved a few already.
Also it'd be nice to get some of the page tags so that we can easily label if a page is too short, too long or badly formatted, I believe that you have to make templates.
Edit: Made a template for the "Coming Soon" tag, I'm going to update all the pages using it with the tag.
To use the "Coming Soon" tag instead of just the formatting stuff just use "{{Coming Soon}}" and it'll auto include it.
wixard
14-02-2012, 09:33 AM
when you search wixard there is no page
you should fix that
twinart
14-02-2012, 09:41 AM
The idea is so nice. And it's so useful for me too.
i love the idea n stuff ben lol i just find everything confusing lol
Richie
14-02-2012, 09:45 AM
It is a good idea but it was blown out of proportion which is why i guess I'm somewhat disappointed
i think the whole thing might be a little more popular if you included some more stuff tailored to the community rather just habbo guides. i would probably look at it if it had like INTERESTING things about each era of the forum rather than just the forum categories. stuff like what happened when / mad shutting spam / the kkk etc.
y'know throw a bit of habbox community history in, oli's spats, narissa rigged it, hxss year by year.
at the moment i find it incredibly boring + stiff.
i think the whole thing might be a little more popular if you included some more stuff tailored to the community rather just habbo guides. i would probably look at it if it had like INTERESTING things about each era of the forum rather than just the forum categories. stuff like what happened when / mad shutting spam / the kkk etc.
y'know throw a bit of habbox community history in, oli's spats, narissa rigged it, hxss year by year.
at the moment i find it incredibly boring + stiff.
I will definitely be looking into getting a lot of information about Habbox such as departments, HxSS, events, comps, etc etc. Ill post an update when Its been added.
Inseriousity.
14-02-2012, 10:40 AM
oli's spats
lolol feel sorry for the poor sod who has to write all that up. would take forever ;P
lolol feel sorry for the poor sod who has to write all that up. would take forever ;P
hahahah would be amusing though.
FlyingJesus
14-02-2012, 02:10 PM
totally against adding another department just to deal with updating the wiki.
Totes agree, it's not necessary as long as content staff have a basic understanding of how it all works (which I assume they all do) and since we can all do edits ourselves it simply wouldn't be necessary
k it confuses me alot
but i like how the hxw changes colour (A)
Definitely the best and most important feature
Just to clarify, users are now aloud to create pages on the wiki if they are appropriate!
HERE COME THE KKK
i think the whole thing might be a little more popular if you included some more stuff tailored to the community rather just habbo guides. i would probably look at it if it had like INTERESTING things about each era of the forum rather than just the forum categories. stuff like what happened when / mad shutting spam / the kkk etc.
y'know throw a bit of habbox community history in, oli's spats, narissa rigged it, hxss year by year.
at the moment i find it incredibly boring + stiff.
Yeah think this will probably come about now that users can add pages but before I saw that being made possible I was going to comment on the absolute lack of community information as without any of that I don't believe most of our own members would be much tempted to use the site, which obviously would represent a massive decrease in overall usage
GommeInc
14-02-2012, 02:24 PM
A few minor criticisms:
On the main page: "Habbox started out as a small project for Mizki but she soon started to realize". Realize should be "realise", it's a UK site primarily, and back then she was British as well as focusing on the UK Habbo.
In the section underneath: "help bring the most, accurate and best Habbo guides around!" should be re-written to be more like:
"Help bring the most accurate, largest collection of Habbo guides around!" Most on its own doesn't make sense, so to seperate it with a comma doesn't work right - this suggestion keeps it flowing nicely.
Also, is HabboWiki taken? HabboxWiki comes off as a Wiki about Habbox :P It's a shame Wikis weren't around when Habbo was at its prime, this just seem like it might be a bit too late, as nice as it is.
EDIT:
Also, never limit the edit permissions to just Habbox Staff. Wiki sites like this are only ever popular if everyone can edit (if they have an account) and get involved.
xxMATTGxx
14-02-2012, 02:29 PM
I do believe we also own the HabboWiki.com domain. We need to get that setup to redirect to the actual wiki. (Hope I got that correct)
Also anyone can edit if they have an account, it just needs to be approved by the content staff before its shown public.
Sent from my 7 Mozart using Board Express
iLogan
14-02-2012, 02:31 PM
A few minor criticisms:
On the main page: "Habbox started out as a small project for Mizki but she soon started to realize". Realize should be "realise", it's a UK site primarily, and back then she was British as well as focusing on the UK Habbo.
In the section underneath: "help bring the most, accurate and best Habbo guides around!" should be re-written to be more like:
"Help bring the most accurate, largest collection of Habbo guides around!" Most on its own doesn't make sense, so to seperate it with a comma doesn't work right - this suggestion keeps it flowing nicely.
Also, is HabboWiki taken? HabboxWiki comes off as a Wiki about Habbox :P It's a shame Wikis weren't around when Habbo was at its prime, this just seem like it might be a bit too late, as nice as it is.
EDIT:
Also, never limit the edit permissions to just Habbox Staff. Wiki sites like this are only ever popular if everyone can edit (if they have an account) and get involved.
There was a thread a while ago in the Content forum (and then the Managers' forum too I think) regarding this - afaik Habbox does own habbowiki.com and it's going to be set up so that habbowiki.com redirects to habboxwiki.com
I do believe we also own the HabboWiki.com domain. We need to get that setup to redirect to the actual wiki. (Hope I got that correct)
Sent from my 7 Mozart using Board Express
I'm pretty sure Jin said we do, I'll ask him to set it up next time he is on!
Mr-Trainor
14-02-2012, 02:32 PM
Also, never limit the edit permissions to just Habbox Staff. Wiki sites like this are only ever popular if everyone can edit (if they have an account) and get involved.
Everyone can edit pages now, provided they have an account, but the changes have to be approved before they go live :).
FlyingJesus
14-02-2012, 02:33 PM
"Help bring the most accurate, largest collection of Habbo guides around!" Most on its own doesn't make sense, so to seperate it with a comma doesn't work right - this suggestion keeps it flowing nicely.
I believe you mean separate
A few minor criticisms:
On the main page: "Habbox started out as a small project for Mizki but she soon started to realize". Realize should be "realise", it's a UK site primarily, and back then she was British as well as focusing on the UK Habbo.
In the section underneath: "help bring the most, accurate and best Habbo guides around!" should be re-written to be more like:
"Help bring the most accurate, largest collection of Habbo guides around!" Most on its own doesn't make sense, so to seperate it with a comma doesn't work right - this suggestion keeps it flowing nicely.
Also, is HabboWiki taken? HabboxWiki comes off as a Wiki about Habbox :P It's a shame Wikis weren't around when Habbo was at its prime, this just seem like it might be a bit too late, as nice as it is.
EDIT:
Also, never limit the edit permissions to just Habbox Staff. Wiki sites like this are only ever popular if everyone can edit (if they have an account) and get involved.
I've just updated those small errors, thanks for spotting them, and as I and some others have said, I'll get Jin to set that domain up as he bought that too. (I think)
GommeInc
14-02-2012, 02:48 PM
I've just updated those small errors, thanks for spotting them, and as I and some others have said, I'll get Jin to set that domain up as he bought that too. (I think)
It'll be useful, so if people look up Habbo and Wiki it may link people to the Habbox one.
I believe you mean separate
Shh you, just testing your reading skills and you passed with flying colours :P
Robbie
14-02-2012, 03:05 PM
i think some of it is written too much like an advertisement, like http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Habbox_Live.
i'd put in information about how habboxradio started, some screenies of the old site from archive.org, then how habboxradio became radiohabbo and habbox started habboxlive.
i think some of it is written too much like an advertisement, like http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Habbox_Live.
i'd put in information about how habboxradio started, some screenies of the old site from archive.org, then how habboxradio became radiohabbo and habbox started habboxlive.
Yeh this is very true Robbie.
Also, Really? This is what you have on HabboxLive? You missed out all of the history. You missed out anything popular in the past etc. No images whatsoever. You also have no urls or anything. Also 'Printscreen of HabboxLive.com' looks very tacky. You should re-phrase that to 'Image of the HabboxLive.com website' or something along those lines.
I think you are now trying to rush through, getting pages open with lack of detail and care. The actual old content pages for HxL were more interesting and detailed than this :P! This does seem like a decent concept, but to me the content seems all over the place and written in quite a primitive way. So tackling that would be a first large leap forward.
FlyingJesus
14-02-2012, 03:52 PM
Not sure who said that there's an abundance of !!!!!!!! but having just had another look around the site (especially on the pages relating to Habbox itself) I have to agree, and Robbie's point of it looking like an advert is made more prominent by this. I know you probably want to look friendly and all that but wiki pages are meant to be impartial fact rather than taglines and messages about what "we" do - currently it's just too personal and smarmy
GoldenMerc
14-02-2012, 03:55 PM
Habboxwiki.com is owned by you guys, so thats a bonus, i do think the feature is a tad pointless at the moment, but i guess if you can get people adding information etc thats a definate bonus!
Mathew
14-02-2012, 04:04 PM
The HabboxLive page has simply been copied from their department page on Habbox.com by the looks of things, which rather defeats the purpose of one of the two mediums (http://habbox.com/#!/Radio). Infact, I daresay the Habbox.com page is slightly better as it includes history.
If we take a look at the page I wrote for the Events Department months ago, I tried to crush as much info on as possible to promote us in the best light (http://habbox.com/#!/dept-events). What we need to do now though is try to keep the Habbox.com page quite brief and then delve into the history, promotions and statistics of the department on the HxW.
I've just clicked random page and been greeted with this though...
Moon Rugs are also referred as Moon Patches. Moon rugs were first released in November 2010. It's current category is Classic Rare's. When it was released, it as 9 credits. It's current price (November 2011) is 5 credits, which is 2.5 HC's and 0.02 Thrones. As with all furni it has a motto to it. It's motto is; Built in 1969! Over the months, the moon rug's price has changed, as with all furni.
"Moon Rugs" shouldn't begin two sentences straight after each other. It's should be its. Why do we need to know that the price has changed, "as with all furni"? The semi-colon shouldn't be used in that situation. "Furni" is too informal and it should say "furniture". The apostophes shouldn't be used either. Oh, and varying the sentence length is important in order to make it flow smoother. I'll rewrite it, but then the problem is that consistency would be nice across the whole site. Some pages will say "furni" whereas others will say "furniture" because the level of professionalism will vary from page-to-page.
One other thing is that a lot of the furniture pages have the rare values on them. Rare Values change each and every day; people can't go back and edit the Wiki every day. I'd keep rare values off it tbh.
Hence my edit:
Moon Rugs, also referred as Moon Patches, were first released in November 2010 and they are currently categorized under "Classic Rares" section. When it was originally released, it was sold for 9 credits in the catalog. Its current price (February 2012) is 4 credits, which is approximately 2 HCs or 0.02 Thrones. As with all furniture, it has a motto which reads: Built in 1969!
GommeInc
14-02-2012, 04:15 PM
One other thing is that a lot of the furniture pages have the rare values on them. Rare Values change each and every day; people can't go back and edit the Wiki every day. I'd keep rare values off it tbh.
Hence my edit:
Agreed, no-one has that much to change them. If they do it will only last a week. They may as well be removed - if people want to find out they can just look on Habbo, Habbox or any other websites.
i think some of it is written too much like an advertisement, like http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Habbox_Live.
i'd put in information about how habboxradio started, some screenies of the old site from archive.org, then how habboxradio became radiohabbo and habbox started habboxlive.
Yeh this is very true Robbie.
Also, Really? This is what you have on HabboxLive? You missed out all of the history. You missed out anything popular in the past etc. No images whatsoever. You also have no urls or anything. Also 'Printscreen of HabboxLive.com' looks very tacky. You should re-phrase that to 'Image of the HabboxLive.com website' or something along those lines.
I think you are now trying to rush through, getting pages open with lack of detail and care. The actual old content pages for HxL were more interesting and detailed than this :P! This does seem like a decent concept, but to me the content seems all over the place and written in quite a primitive way. So tackling that would be a first large leap forward.
Not sure who said that there's an abundance of !!!!!!!! but having just had another look around the site (especially on the pages relating to Habbox itself) I have to agree, and Robbie's point of it looking like an advert is made more prominent by this. I know you probably want to look friendly and all that but wiki pages are meant to be impartial fact rather than taglines and messages about what "we" do - currently it's just too personal and smarmy
Once again, I have no excuse for these comments, the page to the best of my knowledge was copied from the Habbox.com page, if you think something should be changed/edited then feel free to do it your self. All content on the Wiki was only some small guide lines so Wiki users could add it to.
The HabboxLive page has simply been copied from their department page on Habbox.com by the looks of things, which rather defeats the purpose of one of the two mediums (http://habbox.com/#!/Radio). Infact, I daresay the Habbox.com page is slightly better as it includes history.
If we take a look at the page I wrote for the Events Department months ago, I tried to crush as much info on as possible to promote us in the best light (http://habbox.com/#!/dept-events). What we need to do now though is try to keep the Habbox.com page quite brief and then delve into the history, promotions and statistics of the department on the HxW.
I've just clicked random page and been greeted with this though...
"Moon Rugs" shouldn't begin two sentences straight after each other. It's should be its. Why do we need to know that the price has changed, "as with all furni"? The semi-colon shouldn't be used in that situation. "Furni" is too informal and it should say "furniture". The apostophes shouldn't be used either. Oh, and varying the sentence length is important in order to make it flow smoother. I'll rewrite it, but then the problem is that consistency would be nice across the whole site. Some pages will say "furni" whereas others will say "furniture" because the level of professionalism will vary from page-to-page.
One other thing is that a lot of the furniture pages have the rare values on them. Rare Values change each and every day; people can't go back and edit the Wiki every day. I'd keep rare values off it tbh.
Hence my edit:
I must admit, your department page is very good :P -deletes- lol anyway, that page I'm not too sure who did it but I'm very disappointed at the fact its been rushed, we were under pressure but not that much. I will try my best to make sure that the value error does not go on any more.
hamheyelliot
14-02-2012, 10:11 PM
I like it, I definitely think it has the potential to knock the Wikia one out of the water if given enough love. I've been writing some pages tonight and its been pretty nice learning how some of the formatting and other bits and pieces work.
There are a few too many exclamation marks and slightly advert-like phrases here and there, but it's gotten off to a great start!
It would be nice for the tone of voice and language style to be made clear (is it aimed towards helping young users understand Habbo, or just a reference for older users) as that would help find a middle ground of how to set the articles out.
Mathew
14-02-2012, 10:22 PM
It would be nice for the tone of voice and language style to be made clear (is it aimed towards helping young users understand Habbo, or just a reference for older users) as that would help find a middle ground of how to set the articles out.
This is something which I've been wondering because it would seem to be the unavoidable problem and an encyclopedia's worst nightmare. There's a group of teens of all different ages and quality / style of writing contributing towards the same goal and obviously the tone will be rather muddled. I've been trying to write it from an objective stand-point (saying "Habbos" rather than "you" for example) simply because I think it sounds more professional. I'm not sure if that's the aim or not, but that's what I think would work best! :P
It would be far cooler if it was a Wiki about everything habbox. Schemes, depts, Staff etc etc etc.
That's what I thought it would be Mike.
It would be far cooler if it was a Wiki about everything habbox. Schemes, depts, Staff etc etc etc.
They might come out in the next release :P + they are mentioned on this page http://www.habboxwiki.com/wiki/Habbox
-Billy
15-02-2012, 09:21 AM
It's really cool, in my opinion it will help newcomers to get to know people, well the owners and staff.
Alex3213
15-02-2012, 09:39 AM
This is something which I've been wondering because it would seem to be the unavoidable problem and an encyclopedia's worst nightmare. There's a group of teens of all different ages and quality / style of writing contributing towards the same goal and obviously the tone will be rather muddled. I've been trying to write it from an objective stand-point (saying "Habbos" rather than "you" for example) simply because I think it sounds more professional. I'm not sure if that's the aim or not, but that's what I think would work best! :P
I am in complete agreement in this. I personally think the wiki should not even contain the words 'you' or 'we' :P
Recursion
15-02-2012, 12:42 PM
So. many. spelling mistakes.
Will be good once it's all been tidied up ;)
GommeInc
15-02-2012, 01:07 PM
I'm concerned about the suggestions to make the Wiki focus more on Habbox... You do know Habbox.com has this information? It would be nice if it focus just on Habbo, with one page for official fansites with sub-sections for each fansite with a tiny bit of text. If people wanted to bore themselves with details about Habbox, they would go to Habbox.com or other fansites. Try to keep it neutral, which isn't that hard :P If children and teens over at the Animal Crossing Wiki can do it then so can you lot :P
Also, as someone stated - never use the second or first person narrative. 'Them' becomes 'Habbos' and 'you' becomes 'the Habbo', I think. It'll make sense in context whatever is written.
FlyingJesus
15-02-2012, 01:28 PM
It would be far cooler if it was a Wiki about everything habbox. Schemes, depts, Staff etc etc etc.
With the change in settings that allows users to create their own pages this can be done as a group effort if so desired - anyone with enough knowledge of a certain area (because let's face it the content staff aren't going to know the complete history of every area of Habbox by heart) can contribute and put up their work for submission
I'm concerned about the suggestions to make the Wiki focus more on Habbox... You do know Habbox.com has this information? It would be nice if it focus just on Habbo, with one page for official fansites with sub-sections for each fansite with a tiny bit of text. If people wanted to bore themselves with details about Habbox, they would go to Habbox.com or other fansites. Try to keep it neutral, which isn't that hard :P If children and teens over at the Animal Crossing Wiki can do it then so can you lot :P
It's possible to write about Habbox without the personal touches and bias that are currently on there, and community pieces are hardly written about on the habbox.com if at all, so it would be nice to have a site where one can browse the history of the site/forum/people without HE WAS GREAT WE ALL LOVED HIM!!!! and SO COME ALONG AND JOIN THE FUN!!!!!!! all over it. Personally I think it would be nice to have a more permanent archive of activity, so long as it's written properly
GommeInc
15-02-2012, 01:42 PM
It's possible to write about Habbox without the personal touches and bias that are currently on there, and community pieces are hardly written about on the habbox.com if at all, so it would be nice to have a site where one can browse the history of the site/forum/people without HE WAS GREAT WE ALL LOVED HIM!!!! and SO COME ALONG AND JOIN THE FUN!!!!!!! all over it. Personally I think it would be nice to have a more permanent archive of activity, so long as it's written properly
Depends how it is done. If there is one page per person it'll be a white wash of Habbox-ness with little attention on the Habbo things, there are possibly more things on Habbox than things to talk about on Habbo. Quite a few Wiki sites tend to keep pages about people to the User:User pages, while only making pages for specific, interesting people e.g. Mizki, sierk, Jin etc. and other famous individuals who cannot update their User page themselves. It always worked successfully on a few Wiki sites I've visited before - they keep the Wiki for the useful information and the User and User_talk pages for the banter and info about regular Users, which is usually written straight from the horses mouth but keeps the pages away from the information that should interest new users and guests.
FlyingJesus
15-02-2012, 02:01 PM
Oh I'm not suggesting we have pages about individual people (except maybe me), that would be a waste of space and in order to have any substance would require far more personal information than most are probably willing to part with. What I was referring to was the creation of pages such as "HxSS 2009", "I want reward", "Habbox Santa", and other things that are regarding certain events/occurrences of notable importance to provide a history of the Habbox culture rather than just copying in paragraphs from the main site that don't really fit on a wiki
Oh I'm not suggesting we have pages about individual people (except maybe me), that would be a waste of space and in order to have any substance would require far more personal information than most are probably willing to part with. What I was referring to was the creation of pages such as "HxSS 2009", "I want reward", "Habbox Santa", and other things that are regarding certain events/occurrences of notable importance to provide a history of the Habbox culture rather than just copying in paragraphs from the main site that don't really fit on a wiki
This is what I also would like to do, pages for individuals is just stupid IMO, I am going to PM the managers soon with regards to pages on their departments, maybe their staff could chip in too since everyone can edit it!
Chippiewill
15-02-2012, 05:09 PM
Whilst pages for individuals is pointless, perhaps allowing people to use their "User:<name>" pages to talk about themselves would be nice, I'm fairly certain they don't come up on searches unless it's word for word and it shouldn't come up on any page listings except for the list of user pages. So it's very un-intrusive and might tempt a couple of the oldies from Habbox to pop on just to set-up their page and maybe tempt them to fix a couple of things whilst they're there.
Whilst pages for individuals is pointless, perhaps allowing people to use their "User:<name>" pages to talk about themselves would be nice, I'm fairly certain they don't come up on searches unless it's word for word and it shouldn't come up on any page listings except for the list of user pages. So it's very un-intrusive and might tempt a couple of the oldies from Habbox to pop on just to set-up their page and maybe tempt them to fix a couple of things whilst they're there.
This, I agree with, can users not do this already?
Chippiewill
15-02-2012, 05:28 PM
This, I agree with, can users not do this already?
Oh they can, I was under the impression they would just be mass deleted for not being Habbo related.
Oh they can, I was under the impression they would just be mass deleted for not being Habbo related.
I'll let my staff know to not delete them! :)
Are normal users able to add pages to the wiki or is it currently only content staff that have thatprivilege?
Are normal users able to add pages to the wiki or is it currently only content staff that have thatprivilege?
Normal users can but they need to be approved before they go live.
why are there 10 exclamation points on the first 3 paragraphs alone??
So are we able to add pages about users or events ?
why are there 10 exclamation points on the first 3 paragraphs alone??
So are we able to add pages about users or events ?
You can do both as long as they're appropriate. For example there's no point in creating a page for Smileykev3498 who's just joined Habbox/Habbo.
why are there 10 exclamation points on the first 3 paragraphs alone??
So are we able to add pages about users or events ?
What [@]@Mark[/@] said & the home page is only temporary! :P
AgnesIO
16-02-2012, 01:12 PM
Er looks good but just one thing when I heard about this, and I dunno if you can change it.
When you create an account, one of the things mentioned is 'Real Name' - is this a mediawiki thing, that you can't change? If you can, would 'Habbo Name' (so your work will show up as yours) be better?
Catchy
16-02-2012, 01:30 PM
I think it's quite good, why can't regular users create pages though? Obviously subject to approval. Isn't that what wiki's are meant to be like a open project for everybody?
Chippiewill
16-02-2012, 01:35 PM
I think it's quite good, why can't regular users create pages though? Obviously subject to approval. Isn't that what wiki's are meant to be like a open project for everybody?
We'd need around 500 people actively using the wiki in order to have a fully open system, otherwise the mean-time to error correction would be too high and make the whole effort pointless.
Catchy
16-02-2012, 01:38 PM
We'd need around 500 people actively using the wiki in order to have a fully open system, otherwise the mean-time to error correction would be too high and make the whole effort pointless.
Oh right I see, fair enough ;]
I think it's quite good, why can't regular users create pages though? Obviously subject to approval. Isn't that what wiki's are meant to be like a open project for everybody?
When I tested it, registered users can create pages? Just search the page you want to create, if its not already made then just press create page? Then wait for its approval.
Catchy
16-02-2012, 01:53 PM
When I tested it, registered users can create pages? Just search the page you want to create, if its not already made then just press create page? Then wait for its approval.
Oh right, well I aint quite sure, I just heard that we weren't allowed to create pages isn't that what the content team is there for?
Oh right, well I aint quite sure, I just heard that we weren't allowed to create pages isn't that what the content team is there for?
The content team are there to approve all the edits and new pages as well as write the content for the blank pages. Like Zuth said if you want to create a page simply search it and it'll bring the option up to create the page, if it's not already created. Feel free to write and edit other page's content :)
I think some people working on it atm don't use how to use the Wiki system properly. There can be a 'see also' section and not everything bundled in links for similar aspects. Also you need to differentiate between actual headings and sub-headings, as it seems to be atm mostly sub-headings are used.
I think some people working on it atm don't use how to use the Wiki system properly. There can be a 'see also' section and not everything bundled in links for similar aspects. Also you need to differentiate between actual headings and sub-headings, as it seems to be atm mostly sub-headings are used.
We are working on making some templates for these things at the moment Grig :)
Alex3213
16-02-2012, 04:29 PM
Was just looking around the Habbox Wiki to notice a page with an Under Construction template on:
http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/Wobble_Squabble
Firstly, why are there words in italics? :P Also I was just wondering what the difference is to a page which is 'coming soon' to a page which has this under construction page when it doesn't have any information on it already? :)
Chippiewill
16-02-2012, 04:35 PM
Firstly, why are there words in italics? :P Also I was just wondering what the difference is to a page which is 'coming soon' to a page which has this under construction page when it doesn't have any information on it already? :)
The coming soon page was deprecated and replaced with under construction, we just haven't gotten round to replacing those pages yet.
Alex3213
16-02-2012, 04:44 PM
The coming soon page was deprecated and replaced with under construction, we just haven't gotten round to replacing those pages yet.
Good move. Thanks for answering me very quickly. :)
can we have a multi uploader for images please it is a pain to upload 1by1
can we have a multi uploader for images please it is a pain to upload 1by1
I cant seem to find any extension/setting for this but earlier today I changed a few things around and you can now add external images using this code:
<img src="http://www.habbo.com/habbo-imaging/avatarimage?user=xxMATTGxx&action=std&direction=35&head_direction=35&gesture=sml&size=l" />
Chippiewill
16-02-2012, 09:05 PM
can we have a multi uploader for images please it is a pain to upload 1by1
That's a very specific feature of mediawiki that's difficult to change because mediawiki is set-up to need license, name and description for every image.
However, I'll recommend to Zuth a way to fix that.
can we have a multi uploader for images please it is a pain to upload 1by1
Turns out there was an extension thanks to [@]@Chippiewill[/@] - You can use the mulit uploader here http://habboxwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:MultipleUpload
& I made an edit now that when you click upload file in the navigation bar, it will take you to the new page. I think 10 uploads per time is enough at the moment.
can someone explain to me why when the general consensus was not to create a separate department for the wiki like 10 content designers have been taken on to "work on the wiki" ....
xxMATTGxx
16-02-2012, 09:44 PM
can someone explain to me why when the general consensus was not to create a separate department for the wiki like 10 content designers have been taken on to "work on the wiki" ....
Just because they have been hired to work on the wiki does not mean it's a separate department. Everything is still classed as the "Content Design Department" but specific people may be working on the actual Wiki more than the site.
can someone explain to me why when the general consensus was not to create a separate department for the wiki like 10 content designers have been taken on to "work on the wiki" ....
Pretty much what Matt said, these staff are not 'Wiki Staff' they are still content designers but only working on the wiki instead of Habbox.com for the mean time.
i just think it's silly, the amount of people you now have on there you may aswell have made a separate department.
xxMATTGxx
16-02-2012, 09:49 PM
i just think it's silly, the amount of people you now have on there you may aswell have made a separate department.
I thought no one agreed with that so....
I thought no one agreed with that so....
well this is the point i'm making matt.
i just think it's silly, the amount of people you now have on there you may aswell have made a separate department.
I've just hired like 9 people, to maintain the Wiki, 2 of which are doing more of a Coding/Styling role, in the future they all may work on Habbox.com so tbh I think its fine
I've just hired like 9 people, to maintain the Wiki, 2 of which are doing more of a Coding/Styling role, in the future they all may work on Habbox.com so tbh I think its fine
well if you think it's fine then, that's fine. i don't think any of them would've applied if the wiki wasn't there/or have applied for a standard content design job before so the idea they'll work on habbox.com is a bit pie in the sky.
my opinion is that you said you weren't gonna do a separate department then hired a LOT of people for content. it just seems to me that you've decided to make a separate department within content but without the title because people weren't keen on that.
well if you think it's fine then, that's fine. i don't think any of them would've applied if the wiki wasn't there/or have applied for a standard content design job before so the idea they'll work on habbox.com is a bit pie in the sky.
It all depends if they want to, as you said, they applied to work on the Wiki, not the main site atm :P
Inseriousity.
16-02-2012, 09:54 PM
i just think it's silly, the amount of people you now have on there you may aswell have made a separate department.
Thing with hiring lots of staff is that you're not going to keep them all. I imagine the buzz about doing something new for hx has meant lots of people have applied who normally wouldn't apply for a content designer role so when that novelty wears off, it's likely to balance itself out so I don't think it's too big a deal. and if it means there's a lot less 'coming soon' pages, that's a good thing :D
wiki should be user edited all it really needs is a few mods such as chippiewill. others odnt seem to know what they are doing anyway
Chippiewill
16-02-2012, 11:53 PM
If it were user edited then we'd need more people than we have now to keep up with page vandalism.
Current system is fine since most changes by non-staff get approved within an hour usually (Although often within 15 minutes).
DJC4LLY
17-02-2012, 08:54 AM
The Wiki is Great! but as Mathew said it could do with some good navigation :)
wiki should be user edited all it really needs is a few mods such as chippiewill. others odnt seem to know what they are doing anyway
We have around 10 people working on the Wiki, most of which are doing content/modding - Chippiewill is doing most of the formatting/coding then we have Elliot doing all the fancy styling, the rest are content based :)
Cerys
17-02-2012, 11:56 AM
Haven't really checked it out yet, and don't think i will because I have no use for it :]
But from what I've heard it does sound good :)
Chippiewill
17-02-2012, 12:03 PM
The Wiki is Great! but as Mathew said it could do with some good navigation :)
We're working on getting some better Navigation sorted ASAP, just waiting on a couple of things.
scott
17-02-2012, 01:16 PM
the homepage looks so much better now than it did, It's just the "HxW" banner in the top left corner that I think looks ugly :(
the homepage looks so much better now than it did, It's just the "HxW" banner in the top left corner that I think looks ugly :(
I do agree, hopefully we cna get a new one made up soon.
Mathew
17-02-2012, 01:55 PM
i just think it's silly, the amount of people you now have on there you may aswell have made a separate department.
Zuth's usertitle proudly states he's both Content Design Manager and HabboxWiki Manager. Perhaps it is a separate department after all... :O
Chippiewill
17-02-2012, 01:58 PM
Zuth's usertitle proudly states he's both Content Design Manager and HabboxWiki Manager. Perhaps it is a separate department after all... :O
He just wants to see how many different ways he can put manager in his title and still get away with it. :P
the homepage looks so much better now than it did,
It still doesn't look perfect on very large resolutions (Massive gaps) but it looks about 10x better thanks to Elliot.
Kasabian
17-02-2012, 02:07 PM
the homepage looks so much better now than it did, It's just the "HxW" banner in the top left corner that I think looks ugly :(
I do agree, hopefully we cna get a new one made up soon.
I hate that logo, not gonna lie. If you want a new one, [@]@Dave.[/@]; is the guy to talk too. He already made a new one in anticipation of a logo request.
As for the wiki it's self, majority of the pages are copy and pastes. Heck, a lot of them go on to say about 'habbox being open for 5 years'
GoldenMerc
17-02-2012, 02:13 PM
Habbox has been open longer than 5 years, iv been registered for 6 lol
Chippiewill
17-02-2012, 02:15 PM
As for the wiki it's self, majority of the pages are copy and pastes. Heck, a lot of them go on to say about 'habbox being open for 5 years'
I can't find any saying "habbox being open for five years"
Kasabian
17-02-2012, 02:19 PM
I can't find any saying "habbox being open for five years"
"Help desk staff have been there for Habbo fans for over five years now with ever changing "
Was the exact quote. It even says that on the habbox page that it was C+P'd from.
There's also quite a few pages with the old 'coming soon' logo eg.http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/HabboTiles
http://habboxwiki.com/images/1/14/This_page_is_coming_soon%21.png
"Help desk staff have been there for Habbo fans for over five years now with ever changing "
Was the exact quote. It even says that on the habbox page that it was C+P'd from.
There's also quite a few pages with the old 'coming soon' logo eg.http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/HabboTiles
http://habboxwiki.com/images/1/14/This_page_is_coming_soon%21.png
Well get that sorted ;)
"Help desk staff have been there for Habbo fans for over five years now with ever changing "
Was the exact quote. It even says that on the habbox page that it was C+P'd from.
There's also quite a few pages with the old 'coming soon' logo eg.http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/HabboTiles
http://habboxwiki.com/images/1/14/This_page_is_coming_soon%21.png
Removed it and added the construction template, thanks for reporting it to us. If you find anymore then just tell me on MSN and I'll sort it.
GoldenMerc
17-02-2012, 02:52 PM
http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/Habbox_God
pro
FlyingJesus
17-02-2012, 02:55 PM
Haaaaaa unlucky
Totes gonna re-write the forum page
GoldenMerc
17-02-2012, 02:57 PM
Haaaaaa unlucky
Totes gonna re-write the forum page
http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/FlyingJesus
FlyingJesus
17-02-2012, 03:00 PM
Oh Ross you flatter me. 4real though these pages are gonna need some like full time workers to get right
GoldenMerc
17-02-2012, 03:04 PM
the navigation well and truely confuses me
http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/FlyingJesus
if i add "bit of a ****" will my change be accepted?!
GoldenMerc
17-02-2012, 03:08 PM
if i add "bit of a ****" will my change be accepted?!
http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/Publicised
FlyingJesus
17-02-2012, 03:09 PM
Prob not, wikis are supposed to display facts ;|
What is actually up with all the random bolding everywhere oh myyyyyyyy this was so not ready to be released
15:25, 17 February 2012 Mark (Talk | contribs) deleted "Publicised" (Vandalism: content was: "£5 for as much *whisle* as you want!" (and the only contributor was "GoldenMerc"))
VANDALISM.
GoldenMerc
17-02-2012, 03:31 PM
NO FAKE ACCOUNT I DIDNT MAKE DAT
Stephen
17-02-2012, 03:35 PM
oh hang on I read it wrong dm
FlyingJesus
17-02-2012, 03:42 PM
Beefed out the intro on the HabboxForum page (http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/Habbox_Forum) (click "View the most recent version" as it hasn't been approved yet), but it's still going to take a hell of a lot of work to get anywhere near enough true and impartial information on there for it to be worth anyone reading
Chippiewill
17-02-2012, 03:46 PM
Beefed out the intro on the HabboxForum page (http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/Habbox_Forum) (click "View the most recent version" as it hasn't been approved yet), but it's still going to take a hell of a lot of work to get anywhere near enough true and impartial information on there for it to be worth anyone reading
Keep at it then, I just need to improve the formatting of that first paragraph a little and I'll approve the change.
I hate that logo, not gonna lie. If you want a new one, [@]@Dave.[/@]; is the guy to talk too. He already made a new one in anticipation of a logo request.
As for the wiki it's self, majority of the pages are copy and pastes. Heck, a lot of them go on to say about 'habbox being open for 5 years'
Maybe I could have a look :P I'll contact him now :)
GoldenMerc
17-02-2012, 03:47 PM
Id like to see the homepage of wiki pedia actually have its own intro rather than being copied and pasted from hx
FlyingJesus
17-02-2012, 03:50 PM
By "improve the formatting" I hope you don't mean bolding every name, title, and date... Otherwise fair enough
Chippiewill
17-02-2012, 03:52 PM
By "improve the formatting" I hope you don't mean bolding every name, title, and date... Otherwise fair enough
What else could it mean?
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I've actually been stripping every page I catch with pointless use of bold and italics, they have no place on a wiki.
Edit: You may find the word two words bolded, that's a link formatting thing not my fault,
FlyingJesus
17-02-2012, 03:57 PM
Thank god for that haha, looking around I was afraid it was going to be a preferred feature :P also you should force the news team to help making pages, they're supposedly able to write and as far as I remember they only have to do like 2 articles a week
Chippiewill
17-02-2012, 04:03 PM
Thank god for that haha, looking around I was afraid it was going to be a preferred feature :P also you should force the news team to help making pages, they're supposedly able to write and as far as I remember they only have to do like 2 articles a week
Some departments are more liberal than others when it comes to the bold button.
Stephen
17-02-2012, 04:03 PM
is it just me or do randoms letters on all the pages look abit bold
i think it might be my eyes
FlyingJesus
17-02-2012, 04:05 PM
Definitely your eyes
GoldenMerc
17-02-2012, 04:09 PM
http://habboxwiki.com/wiki/HabboxWiki:About
i think itallic "the" in the main sentence on the main page looks absolutely awful.
Stephen
17-02-2012, 04:32 PM
You should be permed from habbox
HabboxWiki is made by GoldenMerc whos amazingly cool. Please send money donations etc
that's pretending to be a cool person and the owner to try and get people to give you money
just as bad as the people who pretend to be staff on habbo and ask for giveaway donations
ban him now or he may kill again
GoldenMerc
17-02-2012, 04:35 PM
You should be permed from habbox
that's pretending to be a cool person and the owner to try and get people to give you money
just as bad as the people who pretend to be staff on habbo and ask for giveaway donations
ban him now or he may kill again
obv zuth made that page
Mathew
17-02-2012, 04:49 PM
lol I'm not surprised they chose to disallow members making new pages with immature nit-wits like Ross around.
xxMATTGxx
17-02-2012, 04:52 PM
lol I'm not surprised they chose to disallow members making new pages with immature nit-wits like Ross around.
Would be just like the threads he makes in the staff section, full of spam and unwanted crap! ;)
GoldenMerc
17-02-2012, 04:58 PM
lol I'm not surprised they chose to disallow members making new pages with immature nit-wits like Ross around.
Would be just like the threads he makes in the staff section, full of spam and unwanted crap! ;)
ty for your support guys, i work for this ****
Mathew
17-02-2012, 05:12 PM
ty for your support guys, i work for this ****
:(:(:(:(:(
http://sandrafoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/overworked-and-underpaid.jpg
GoldenMerc
17-02-2012, 05:19 PM
"Habbox Staff"
hope u enjoy ur 1 month vip a month unoriginal xox
FlyingJesus
17-02-2012, 06:18 PM
Would be just like the threads he makes in the staff section, full of spam and unwanted crap! ;)
Be honest lol
xxMATTGxx
17-02-2012, 06:22 PM
Be honest lol
Why would all threads in the staff sections be crap when a lot of them would be informing the staff? Back to the Wiki topic anyway.
I also agree with the navigation being difficult. I tried to update a few pages for my knowledge of dates is limited
Thank god for that haha, looking around I was afraid it was going to be a preferred feature :P also you should force the news team to help making pages, they're supposedly able to write and as far as I remember they only have to do like 2 articles a week
It's like 5, I've forgotten actually! But yeah, news reporters should do some research and add in detail to the pages. I would be expected to do it if I was in the News team still.
Martin
17-02-2012, 08:29 PM
I think once the navigation is sorted out it will make things much easier, really liking the wiki already though! :D Had a good read.
I think once the navigation is sorted out it will make things much easier, really liking the wiki already though! :D Had a good read.
We are currently working on a navigation thingey :P
It's looking better than it did the other day. *POSITIVE POST OH YEAH*
It's looking better than it did the other day. *POSITIVE POST OH YEAH*
Since the trialists have joined, things have been looking a lot better :)
FlyingJesus
18-02-2012, 03:43 AM
I know I've only done a very small amount considering how much free time I technically have (I mean seriously, I'm in art school...) but hopefully others who are capable of writing informative and impartial paragraphs will whack out a 10 minute edit here and there in order to make this project work. Genuinely believe that this can happen if and only if the community pulls together, and considering how low I think of the current Hx community that's saying something, so come on chaps prove my faith in you to be worthy of upholding at least a worthwhile percentage of our history in literarary publishing. Possibly putting myself in uncharted depths here but I am genuinely willing to read through and edit to an impartial and professional standard any edits or new pages, so if you're too shy to click the "save" button right away throw me a PM of what you want to write and I'll look it over and send it back to you with any necessary edits. Obv there are staff who can do this, and I don't mean to belittle any of them by saying this but I do have the time and literary ability to go through any edits/additions if you aren't happy with sending what you have to the official folk for publishing, so please do make use of my experience if you have any hesitations about sending your articles/edits to staff without a second opinion. If you're a confident writer, please with all good intent add your pages/edits straight through the site as this is obviously going to be the quickest way to update the wiki, but otherwise I am very much available as a support option.
Chippiewill
18-02-2012, 10:21 PM
tl;dr If you're scared your writing isn't good enough PM FJ so he can belittle you about it.
In all seriousness you can PM him or just submit it on the wiki and we'll review it before approving it so there isn't really an excuse for not helping out.
Mathew
18-02-2012, 10:28 PM
I know I've only done a very small amount considering how much free time I technically have (I mean seriously, I'm in art school...) but hopefully others who are capable of writing informative and impartial paragraphs will whack out a 10 minute edit here and there in order to make this project work. Genuinely believe that this can happen if and only if the community pulls together, and considering how low I think of the current Hx community that's saying something, so come on chaps prove my faith in you to be worthy of upholding at least a worthwhile percentage of our history in literarary publishing. Possibly putting myself in uncharted depths here but I am genuinely willing to read through and edit to an impartial and professional standard any edits or new pages, so if you're too shy to click the "save" button right away throw me a PM of what you want to write and I'll look it over and send it back to you with any necessary edits. Obv there are staff who can do this, and I don't mean to belittle any of them by saying this but I do have the time and literary ability to go through any edits/additions if you aren't happy with sending what you have to the official folk for publishing, so please do make use of my experience if you have any hesitations about sending your articles/edits to staff without a second opinion. If you're a confident writer, please with all good intent add your pages/edits straight through the site as this is obviously going to be the quickest way to update the wiki, but otherwise I am very much available as a support option.
that's the first time i've ever seen you include a full stop at the end of your post. this must be serious business! ;)
FlyingJesus
19-02-2012, 12:19 AM
that's the first time i've ever seen you include a full stop at the end of your post. this must be serious business! ;)
Gonna be honest I was so drunk I don't even remember writing that
GommeInc
19-02-2012, 01:57 AM
Gonna be honest I was so drunk I don't even remember writing that
It does explain the over-helpfulness and the long post which is out of character :P You're a friendly, talkative drunk :P
In all seriousness, wouldn't it be better just to have people submit their posts straight to the Wiki? They get approved, so two approve them twice seems like overkill.
Eoin247
20-02-2012, 12:53 AM
Actualy seems like a pretty good idea, gona sign up and help out. We need to push this heavily on habbo.com once we got some decent content on it! The categories link in the wiki doesn't contain anything under the subcategories yet? Don't know if this is on purpose or if it's a bug.
Is there a way to add extra pages that simply link to another page e.g. there is currently '/Fallin_Furni' page, is there a way/code/whatever to make the pages /fallin_furni, /falling furni, Falling furni, Falling Furni etc, link to that one page? I've seen it on other wikis just wondering how it's done
GommeInc
20-02-2012, 01:41 AM
Is there a way to add extra pages that simply link to another page e.g. there is currently '/Fallin_Furni' page, is there a way/code/whatever to make the pages /fallin_furni, /falling furni, Falling furni, Falling Furni etc, link to that one page? I've seen it on other wikis just wondering how it's done
You add the redirect code. So on the pages you want to "redirect" to, you add:
#redirect [[Fallin Furni]]
I think that's what you meant, and I think that code works on all Wiki types.
Mathew
20-02-2012, 04:39 PM
I wonder if Habbo would be willing to put a news article up for this when it's a bit further down the line. I'm sure they'd consider advertising it as a good, solid and historic account of Habbo.
I wonder if Habbo would be willing to put a news article up for this when it's a bit further down the line. I'm sure they'd consider advertising it as a good, solid and historic account of Habbo.
I wish :P But yeah, maybe when its more 'complete' maybe Matt could send an email :P
I wonder if Habbo would be willing to put a news article up for this when it's a bit further down the line. I'm sure they'd consider advertising it as a good, solid and historic account of Habbo.
Would be really cool if this happened actually!
Richie
23-02-2012, 06:17 PM
It might be a good idea to add a link to the wiki page on the forum navigation
David
23-02-2012, 06:21 PM
It might be a good idea to add a link to the wiki page on the forum navigation
I said that to Matt on skype the other day, he said David hasn't added it yet.
xxMATTGxx
23-02-2012, 06:31 PM
I said that to Matt on skype the other day, he said David hasn't added it yet.
Update: It's now on the Site Skin 2011, I'll add it to the other skins in the next few minutes.
Looks fitting on the Site Skin 2011.
Ohh, didn't think of this :D Nice one!
xxMATTGxx
23-02-2012, 06:51 PM
Update: It's now on the Site Skin 2011, I'll add it to the other skins in the next few minutes.
Update 2#: Should be on all active skins that uses that specific navigation bar.
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