KONY 2012

[Phil]

About




Invisible Children uses film, creativity and social action to end the use of child soldiers in Joseph Kony's rebel war and restore LRA-affected communities in Central Africa to peace and prosperity.
Mission
Invisible Children uses film, creativity and social action to end the use of child soldiers in Joseph Kony's rebel war and restore LRA-affected communities in Central Africa to peace and prosperity.
Company Overview
We believe Invisible Children is not just a nonprofit, but a group of people choosing to live differently. We use the power of media to inspire young people to help end the longest running war in Africa. We make documentaries, tour them around the world, and lobby our nation's leaders to make ending this war a priority.
Description
In the spring of 2003, three young filmmakers traveled to Africa in search of a story. What started out as a filmmaking adventure transformed into much more when these boys from Southern California discovered a tragedy that disgusted and inspired them, a tragedy where children are both the weapons and the victims.

After returning to the States, they created the documentary "Invisible Children: Rough Cut," a film that exposes the tragic realities of northern Uganda.s night commuters and child soldiers.




The film was originally shown to friends and family, but has now been seen by millions of people. The overwhelming response has been, "How can I help?" To answer this question, the non-profit Invisible Children, Inc. was created, giving compassionate individuals an effective way to respond to the situation.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc

I'm so inspired... I really recommend watching the video, I think it's quite important.

[efq]

I just watched this on another site, it's amazing and definitely should watch it all.

I hope 2012 is the year, for humanities sake.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Firstly, what I do approve of is this low down approach of voluntary charity shown in the video, that often does make a difference.

I don't quite understand this 'we need stop Kony'. The man is terrible, as are all the other guerilla leaders and troops across Africa which is plagued by divides across each and every country. The internal or even external problems of Uganda and it's neighbours are not the problem of the United States or of the western world in general. I do apologise for shooting it down but the video is very idealistic and the same has been said for decades if not hundreds of years of solving the problems of Africa, and today we are no closer to that than when we went into Africa, it's getting progressively worse. The age of imperialism is over, only Africa can solve Africas' problems. In terms of the U.S. troops going into Uganda which I recall hearing of back in the autumn, again it seems like a helpful thing to do, but it almost always backfires. The mission ought to be ended immediately.

It is very easy to sit behind a computer screen and advocate sending the military to save people on the other side of the world, especially when you're not in the military.

[peteyt]

Firstly, what I do approve of is this low down approach of voluntary charity shown in the video, that often does make a difference.

I don't quite understand this 'we need stop Kony'. The man is terrible, as are all the other guerilla leaders and troops across Africa which is plagued by divides across each and every country. The internal or even external problems of Uganda and it's neighbours are not the problem of the United States or of the western world in general. I do apologise for shooting it down but the video is very idealistic and the same has been said for decades if not hundreds of years of solving the problems of Africa, and today we are no closer to that than when we went into Africa, it's getting progressively worse. The age of imperialism is over, only Africa can solve Africas' problems. In terms of the U.S. troops going into Uganda which I recall hearing of back in the autumn, again it seems like a helpful thing to do, but it almost always backfires. The mission ought to be ended immediately.

It is very easy to sit behind a computer screen and advocate sending the military to save people on the other side of the world, especially when you're not in the military.

This echo's something in the video: There's no reason for them to go in because its not going to financially effect them, it isn't a risk to them etc.

In my opinion the governments need to stop thinking this way - so what if the terrorist leader isn't a threat to the US that doesn't mean he's right for what he is doing and who's to say if we don't stop him now he won't try and use his terrorism in other countries - Adolf Hitler may have started on smaller countries but he spread worse and by then we'd let him get away with stuff out of fear and then it was too late.

[jyles-wh4lyf]

You've probably heard a lot about KONY2012. Whether it's through facebook, twitter, youtube or any other social media. Why? Because it's a big deal. Watch the video and take the 30minutes you would spend watching the simpsons or family guy to watch someone thats real and that matters.


Over 20 years ago Joseph Kony started to kidnap kids in Central Africa, give them guns and make them do inhumane things. I'd advise you to be atleast 13+ or with adults when watching this video, it's very emotional and very real.


The idea to stop all this unknown terror thats happening in this world is by making KONY famous. If his famous more people will want him captured, the more people wanting him captured, the more likely he will be.


This is big guys, this has already gone around the internet, it's viral, and it's going to make a huge change on how things are done on this planet! It's already changed the future of the Earth and will continue doing so!


So please watch the video, and support the cause!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc


After you have watched the video, go on facebook and post it! go on reddit and share it! like it and favourite it on youtube! Tweet it on twitter and use #KONY2012 !


We can make a difference!
We can take matters into our own hands!


i'll keep posting relevant links here!
http://s3.amazonaws.com/kony2012/kony-4.html
https://twitter.com/#!/Invisible
https://www.facebook.com/invisiblechildren
http://vimeo.com/37119711

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[RealClifford]

I was about to post about this.

+Rep :D

[Vause]

^ me too. When i get some money I'm deffo ordering the kit. I want to raise as much awareness of this as possible. It's seriously opened my eyes and made me realize just how lucky I am to have a safe home. God bless their souls :(

[GirlNextDoor15]

I'm posting this on Facebook and Twitter! We have to stop this because it kinda sound like Blood Diamond and I really can't imagine how the world will be like if the history of Blood Diamond repeats itself! C'mon hxf users! Let's get #KONY2012 trending on Twitter and bring him to justice! +rep

[RealClifford]

Something to ponder about when supporting this though. Don't go into it blindly just based on one video, research it for yourself.

Found this before a long with similar other news stories.. US troops have been involved since up to 4 years ago and have been searching intently since last year. Kony was actually driven out of uganda in 2004..

http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/629118-American-politician-puts-bounty-on--Kony-s-head.html
http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/30156-US-troops-to-stay-in-Uganda-until-Kony-is-found.html

[Jazz]

Posting it over my Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr. Its horrible to see such things in the world :-(

[wixard]

the thing that annoys me about it though is that kony is not in uganda, the documentary doesn't really educate about the issue
it's had huge press over the years so it's not as if it was unreported before. it's just easy to get swept up in a cause, and it's great that people want to take action but it'd be nice for it to be informed action with actual real and grounded aims and not just a cathartic statement that makes people feel as if they've 'done their bit'

how many people will actually get the packs?

[Grig]

Firstly, what I do approve of is this low down approach of voluntary charity shown in the video, that often does make a difference.

I don't quite understand this 'we need stop Kony'. The man is terrible, as are all the other guerilla leaders and troops across Africa which is plagued by divides across each and every country. The internal or even external problems of Uganda and it's neighbours are not the problem of the United States or of the western world in general. I do apologise for shooting it down but the video is very idealistic and the same has been said for decades if not hundreds of years of solving the problems of Africa, and today we are no closer to that than when we went into Africa, it's getting progressively worse. The age of imperialism is over, only Africa can solve Africas' problems. In terms of the U.S. troops going into Uganda which I recall hearing of back in the autumn, again it seems like a helpful thing to do, but it almost always backfires. The mission ought to be ended immediately.

It is very easy to sit behind a computer screen and advocate sending the military to save people on the other side of the world, especially when you're not in the military.

I have researched topics on Sudan and Uganda and did papers. The divides come from a far more complex issue of things such as Slave raiding in the 19th century. To say divides were all caused by imperialism will be wrong.

However, that said, I do agree with you. Africa needs to solve their own problems. The state of South Sudan had been created last year and it is up to them and Khartoum to solve their differences over oil. Of course many countries continue to fund such wars and IT IS external intervention that lets wars go on for such a prolonged time.

Internally, there is a preconceived notion that the ruling elite impose their laws on the whole country, even though there are massive disparities in religion and what not.

Also, this whole Kony thing is a bit pathetic. They're are SO MANY guerilla leaders out there (might as well make a documentary to get them all captures :S) and they fight because they often have no choice but to do so. Their defending their freedoms and liberty and simply want greater autonomy.

It's a conflict that cannot be resolved by one leader's capture and clearly most people on here and who are spreading the video don't know the very complex backgrounds of civil conflicts across the region.

[Nemo]

If you've got time to watch the 30 min video, I suggest reading up exactly what they're doing with your money before you donate, because it has most certainly put me off.


This is what sort of sparked it all (http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qjvvl/the_best_30_minutes_you_will_spend_all_week_i/) which is not good. The video itself is a good piece of emotional porn but that's about it. It's honestly NOT worth the 30 minutes when you find out somethings about the organization that is doing this . First of all, the guy who made that film get's paid $90,000 a year. That's for him and his family. This does not include him paying costs for film equipment, video editting software, nor does it cover travel or accomodations whilst in anywhere else. Those are all covered under the ludicrous budgets that the Invisible Children organization actually deal with. Let's go to that now. Here are some expenses from CharityNavigator. (http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=12429):

Compensation of Leaders | % of Compensation relative to amount of money made by IC | Title


$88,241 | 0.99% | Ben Keesey - CEO
$89,669 | 1.00% | Jason Russell - Co-Founder/Filmmaker
$84,377 | 0.94% | Laren Poole - Co-Founder/Filmmaker

Revenue


Total Contributions: $10,334,060
Program Service Revenue: $3,423,351
Total Primary Revenue: $13,757,411
Other Revenue $7,769
TOTAL REVENUE: $13,765,180

Expenses


Program Expenses: $7,163,384
Administrative Expenses: $1,444,570
Fundraising Expenses: $286,678
TOTAL FUNCTIONAL EXPENSES: $8,894,632

Payments to Affiliates $0 Excess (Or deficit) for the year: $4,870,548
Net Assets $6,584,811
As if that isn't bad enough, they've refused to Co-operate with the Better Business Bureau, Their transparancy rating is fairly low on Charity Navigator, and allegations of fraud. HuffingtonPost has an article on it here (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/22/fraud-in-facebookchase-co_n_433928.html).

Besides, they make a fairly large point about sending money to the Ugandan Military. This is a big no no for a couple of reasons. First of all, Kony isn't even in Uganda. Funding a military that has no real authority over another country to LOOK in other countries, is a moronic idea to begin with. Secondly, the Ugandan military is already using this as an excuse to enter other countries and exploit resources from surrouding areas. The Government of Uganda is full of criminals that are worse than Kony himself. Not to mention the bloody PRESIDENT of Uganda is responsible for millions of deaths. Then you've got allegations coming out that Kony is already dead. The LRA (Konys ragtag bunch of ********) isn't that large, or all that active. (http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible-children/)

The worst thing about Invisible Children (In my opinion) is that they lobbies for DIRECT MILITARY INTERVENTION IN AFRICA. After all of the terrorist hunts in the Middle East, and having troops stuck in Afghanistan and Iraq, don't you think that the people would have learned by now that having troops in another country to hunt one ******* isn't exactly the best idea? Especially when some of the Republicans believe that invading Iran is a fairly good idea at the moment. There are SERIOUS issues with this group, issues that people are overlooking. I will admit that at first I was already on Twitter and ready to ***** at people about the injustice that's being served in other countries and then I decided to look into the organization. The information is there, and willing, but people are fearful to even look. Fearful, lazy, or just swept up by the movement. Injustice exists in the world. It is damn stupid, and it sucks ass, but that's the nature of this planet at the moment. Humanity, since rising from the primordial ooze, has killed people over far less than anything you could imagine. Then there's the fact that if Kony is alive, and the ICC, or International Criminals Court, manages to put him on trial, what's it going to achieve? Numerous war criminals have stood trial before the ICC. This isn't a game of chess. You don't topple a pawn and move on. The pawns replicate. It's like fighting a hydra. If you slice off one head, more are going to pop up in it's place. You remove one player, and 10 others will appear. Hell, there's a case to be made that awareness driven ngos perpetuate the current state of afafairs and are an [I]intergral part of the current system of global unfairness. They ovver placebos for guilty consciences and as such, they don't change anything. If you think of large entites such as Global Corporations, conglomorates and powerful nation states that capitalize on injustice, corruption and disorganization and exploit the poor for their resources and manpower, the best thing that could happen to them are programs such as this. There's a lot of reasons why Invisible Children has a good idea of what they're doing, but FAR too much on the opposite sides of the scales to tip myself (and no doubt others) into not bothering with this group and it's practices.

[-:Undertaker:-]

This echo's something in the video: There's no reason for them to go in because its not going to financially effect them, it isn't a risk to them etc.

In my opinion the governments need to stop thinking this way - so what if the terrorist leader isn't a threat to the US that doesn't mean he's right for what he is doing and who's to say if we don't stop him now he won't try and use his terrorism in other countries.

We are trillions in the red as is the United States, even if we wanted to - we can't.


Adolf Hitler may have started on smaller countries but he spread worse and by then we'd let him get away with stuff out of fear and then it was too late.

Adolf Hitler also used the same excuse to justify preemptive strikes on other nations, he claimed, as many do today, that we need to go into these nations 'before they become a threat to us'. No threat exists here, although I will add - if we go into central Africa a threat will appear because people simply do not like other nations meddling in their affairs. As David Starkey said on Question Time last week, they always mistake liberators for conquerers (see Imperial War Graves being smashed in Libya last week).


the thing that annoys me about it though is that kony is not in uganda, the documentary doesn't really educate about the issue
it's had huge press over the years so it's not as if it was unreported before. it's just easy to get swept up in a cause, and it's great that people want to take action but it'd be nice for it to be informed action with actual real and grounded aims and not just a cathartic statement that makes people feel as if they've 'done their bit'

how many people will actually get the packs?

Indeed, and if we go into Uganda as many here advocate - will these people be signing up?


I have researched topics on Sudan and Uganda and did papers. The divides come from a far more complex issue of things such as Slave raiding in the 19th century. To say divides were all caused by imperialism will be wrong.

Oh no i'm not saying imperialism caused it at all, indeed I think that imperialism (British in particular) will be seen as the golden age of Africa - but the age of imperialism is over and we say it ourselves.

These countries wanted independence, let them have it.

[beth]

i'm kinda with tara, while i agree that this stuff is bad and needs to be stopped, i don't feel i know enough about the issues to be pasting it all over wherever. i've been aware of invisible children for a while through [@]@PaintYourTarget[/@] though i don't think he uses this anymore, ANYWAY i knew about invisible children through lee and they do do amazing work.

however, i'm gonna claim to be some massive social activist because i've seen a documentary on tumblr. i saw a documentary about car lovers on channel5 last month, didn't really get me impassioned about cars.

bottom line is, i just don't think i know enough to be comfortable preaching it as though it's a holy right or something.

[Richie]

This seems to be going viral, very interesting but sad.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc


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[beth]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=739589&goto=newpost

booom.

[Richie]

my bad lol move to spam or merge sum1 pls

[Vause]

the thing that annoys me about it though is that kony is not in uganda, the documentary doesn't really educate about the issue
it's had huge press over the years so it's not as if it was unreported before. it's just easy to get swept up in a cause, and it's great that people want to take action but it'd be nice for it to be informed action with actual real and grounded aims and not just a cathartic statement that makes people feel as if they've 'done their bit'

how many people will actually get the packs?

I was going to order one.. then i checked and they're like $30. (so like, £20?) I guess the money side to this project is off putting for many. Okay they need donations, and I am all up for being hands on and spreading the word, but they ask for so much money and it seems too much. However, it did make me open my eyes and see the type of world we live in, something needs to be done.. big time

[beth]

just posting this as it's doing the rounds around tumblr and is very interesting:

"You do not need to ask my permission to share this. Please link it widely. For those asking what you can do to help, please link to visiblechildren.tumblr.com wherever you see KONY 2012 posts.
I do not doubt for a second that those involved in KONY 2012 have great intentions, nor do I doubt for a second that Joseph Kony is a very evil man. But despite this, I’m strongly opposed to the KONY 2012 campaign.
KONY 2012 is the product of a group called Invisible Children, a controversial activist group and not-for-profit. They’ve released 11 films, most with an accompanying bracelet colour (KONY 2012 is fittingly red), all of which focus on Joseph Kony. When we buy merch from them, when we link to their video, when we put up posters linking to their website, we support the organization. I don’t think that’s a good thing, and I’m not alone.
Invisible Children has been condemned time and time again. As a registered not-for-profit, its finances are public. Last year, the organization spent $8,676,614. Only 31% went to their charity program (page 6)*. This is far from ideal, and Charity Navigator rates their accountability 2/4 stars because they haven’t had their finances externally audited. But it goes way deeper than that.
The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money funds the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission.
Still, the bulk of Invisible Children’s spending isn’t on funding African militias, but on awareness and filmmaking. Which can be great, except that Foreign Affairs has claimed that Invisible Children (among others) “manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil.” He’s certainly evil, but exaggeration and manipulation to capture the public eye is unproductive, unprofessional and dishonest.
As Christ Blattman, a political scientist at Yale, writes on the topic of IC’s programming, “There’s also something inherently misleading, naive, maybe even dangerous, about the idea of rescuing children or saving of Africa. […] It hints uncomfortably of the White Man’s Burden. Worse, sometimes it does more than hint. The savior attitude is pervasive in advocacy, and it inevitably shapes programming. Usually misconceived programming.”
Still, Kony’s a bad guy, and he’s been around a while. Which is why the US has been involved in stopping him for years. U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) has sent multiple missions to capture or kill Kony over the years. And they’ve failed time and time again, each provoking a ferocious response and increased retaliative slaughter. The issue with taking out a man who uses a child army is that his bodyguards are children. Any effort to capture or kill him will almost certainly result in many children’s deaths, an impact that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Each attempt brings more retaliation. And yet Invisible Children funds this military intervention. Kony has been involved in peace talks in the past, which have fallen through. But Invisible Children is now focusing on military intervention.
Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re helping fund the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. If people know this and still support Invisible Children because they feel it’s the best solution based on their knowledge and research, I have no issue with that. But I don’t think most people are in that position, and that’s a problem.
Is awareness good? Yes. But these problems are highly complex, not one-dimensional and, frankly, aren’t of the nature that can be solved by postering, film-making and changing your Facebook profile picture, as hard as that is to swallow. Giving your money and public support to Invisible Children so they can spend it on funding ill-advised violent intervention and movie #12 isn’t helping. Do I have a better answer? No, I don’t, but that doesn’t mean that you should support KONY 2012 just because it’s something. Something isn’t always better than nothing. Sometimes it’s worse.
If you want to write to your Member of Parliament or your Senator or the President or the Prime Minister, by all means, go ahead. If you want to post about Joseph Kony’s crimes on Facebook, go ahead. But let’s keep it about Joseph Kony, not KONY 2012.
~ Grant Oyston, visiblechildren[@]@grantoyston[/@].com
Grant Oyston is a sociology and political science student at Acadia University in Nova Scotia, Canada. You can help spread the word about this by linking to his blog at visiblechildren.tumblr.com anywhere you see posts about KONY 2012.
*For context, 31% is bad. By contrast, Direct Relief reports 98.8% of its funding goes to programming. American Red Cross reports 92.1% to programming. UNICEF USA is at 90.3%. Invisible Children reports that 80.5% of their funding goes to programming, while I report 31% based on their FY11 fiscal reports, because other NGOs would count film-making as fundraising expenses, not programming expenses."

[Catchy]

thing i don't understand is... why's everyone banging on about this now? this type of thing has been going on for YEARS! i mean it's gr8 that it's trying to be stopped don't get me wrong all this exposure is great and might get people on board to donate but what i'm saying is, why has it taken this long for people to be aware of it? it's been goin on yrs

[DPS]

Before you guys jump on the bandwagon maybe you should of really looked into it.

All right, we all know who Joseph Kony is by now and how horrible he is. I admit, I jumped in on the bandwagon and started spreading the word too; but that was until I did a little digging into this "Invisible Children" organisation.

I found that the Invisible Children organisation refuses to be publicly audited of their financial activities and only 32% of their funds go to actual charitable causes not to mention their allegations of fraud. That is only $4,404,857.60 out of $13,765,180 where does the rest go? Jason Russell (the guy in the video) earns $89,669py, Ben Keesey (CEO) earns $88,241, Laren Poole (Co-Founder) earns $84,377 not to mention the organisation has paid for almost everything they own. (Based off stats from 2011)

By supporting this organisation, you would be supporting direct military intervention. Yep, that's a great idea but let's ignore the past several decades of US military intervention and send the military to fight a small terrorist group in a jungle. OH WAIT.

What's worse? The LRA has not been active in Northern Uganda since 2006, by creating awareness for Uganda, it would be like supporting Mexico to kill or capture a drug cartel leader yet he lives in Antarctica. It just wouldn't work. (random anecdote, I know)

"The video itself is a good piece of emotional porn but that's about it.": It's meant to exploit your emotions on a level that we don't often see, this is why it has gained such momentum in the past few days. You people need to realise that things are not always as they seem, we are watching a video about a person [Kony] exploiting children when the video itself is exploiting us. Ironic, isn't it.

1) The Ugandan Government is a dictatorship with Yoweri Museveni as the president since 1986. Among many of its human rights violations the regime tortures prisons, oppresses other political parties and the press and also wishes to introduce a bill that would have 'convicted homosexuals' put to death.

2) In the civil war in which Yoweri Museveni gained power child soldiers were used by his army (National Resistance Army) which is now the army of Uganda but under a different name. ([1] http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc315.php )

3) The Ugandan army, or rather its high ranking officers have being using 'ghost soldiers' (soldiers who are no longer on the pay-roll) to siphon off funds, making the war even more profitable for them than usual, giving them a vested interest in its continuation. ([2] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3514473.stm )

4) (kinda the same point again) War is profitable, especially for large arms economies such as the U.S. and the UK. 'U.S. Military adviser support' may as well say 'we want to US and its arms manufactures /dealers to sell the Ugandan Government **** tons more weapons'.

Sources:
http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the...-children/ (http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible-children/)
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cf...rgid=12429 (http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=12429)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_children
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/22...33928.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/22/fraud-in-facebookchase-co_n_433928.html)

But do you need more and even deeper information on this? Try these places:
http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/commen...ph/c3yi7d1 (http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qlejg/kony_2012_is_a_campaign_that_aims_to_make_joseph/c3yi7d1)
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/

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[Andii]

hmmm how did you find all this :O

[Grig]

hmmm how did you find all this :O

For those who understand conflicts in the country it isn't hard. I knew it was a bunch of ironic crap anyway, as the charity itself doesn't understand that Kone is far from the main problem in the conflict, which has subsided and a platform of peace has been going on for about 5 years now.

Plus the stats about the charity are all out there.

Great post DPS, +rep.

[beth]

made the exact same post in the original kony thread :rolleyes:

[Jordy]

I don't understand how "awareness" is going to lead to his capture or any end to the injustice. I didn't know about this particular case but it's hardly surprising, if this has opened people's eyes to the world of oil, child soldiers, rape and slavery still commonplace in parts of Africa then they should be disappointed in themselves for not knowing the atrocities still going on in the world.

The campaign is useless, it seems the charity is there to make a load of money through "awareness" (The finances are very dodgy) which really isn't going to achieve all that much, and their support for military intervention is ridiculous, first of all it would result in the death of many child soldiers. Also it seems the Ugandan Army they support is just as ludicrous as Kony himself. Regardless of this, Joseph Kony is one of the most wanted men in the world by far, I have no doubt at all that if the US could locate him we'd be seeing another Bin Laden style assassination. Whether you agree with this or not, that is what's going to happen and no awareness campaigning/money making scheme is likely to change that.

[cocaine]

i've found it amazing how no one seemed to question it, at all.

[Jordy]

i've found it amazing how no one seemed to question it, at all.I'm not surprised about the sheep I follow on Twitter but celebrities getting involved should look into it more before spreading the word. Apparently Stephen Fry, Lady Gaga and Mark Zuckerberg are all involved.

[Vause]

I'm not surprised about the sheep I follow on Twitter but celebrities getting involved should look into it more before spreading the word. Apparently Stephen Fry, Lady Gaga and Mark Zuckerberg are all involved.

I've heard Rihanna is also involved.

[Ellz]

posted on twitter and facebook. might buy some posters aswell

[Plebings]

The issue with taking out a man who uses a child army is that his bodyguards are children. Any effort to capture or kill him will almost certainly result in many children’s deaths, an impact that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Each attempt brings more retaliation. And yet Invisible Children funds this military intervention. Kony has been involved in peace talks in the past, which have fallen through. But Invisible Children is now focusing on military intervention.


This is my main concern too

I think everyone can agree that he is an evil man, but funding military intervention is a double edged sword, I'm not saying I can think of a better way, but I do hope someone else can.

[DPS]

lol this is the kinda thing that shows how dumb people can be..
the truth is out there for people to find yet most aint smart enough to look.

charity starts at home anyway.. africa means nothing to me.

[Vause]

I kinda agree with the comments made about africa meaning "nothing", i mean our money should be going on making our own country a better place before we worry about anything else.

[FlyingJesus]

Truly scary how up-in-arms people can get about things that they haven't even looked into themselves, just blindly following the first statement they hear. When people are this bloody stupid it's no wonder the government chooses not to ask us what we think before writing up bills

[Jordy]

I kinda agree with the comments made about africa meaning "nothing", i mean our money should be going on making our own country a better place before we worry about anything else.Disagree ,your money should go wherever you want it to seeing as its yours. There's no right or wrong on what country you donate money to.

[dbgtz]

I'm not going to pretend or say I watched all of the video and know a lot on the issue. But in this video, I noticed 2 things that struck me. One is that they say Kony has no supports, which makes no sense at all as even dictators have some sort of support by somebody, otherwise it just wouldn't work surely? So that was probably just to get some empathy of some sort out of the viewer which could result in more money. The second thing is that they're quite happy to sit on their backsides and want other countries to sort it out. I think a person even says "we welcome a friend of Uganda wants to get involved to save our children" or something along those lines.

Also this is an example of why I don't trust charities anymore (regarding the figures and information presented in this thread).

[DPS]

Just hope our goverment doesnt get involved... the country is already in a crap place, thanks to the MP's

Also saw a tweet from a man from Uganda and he said "its abit late"

[beth]

charity starts at home anyway.. africa means nothing to me.
(and all other comments with this kinda message)

may i quote enter shikari? you know what sod it, gonna do it anyway:

"If our lives aren't directly affected, then it don't need to be corrected
how ******* cute is our ignorance"

just because you aren't in africa this doesn't mean this doesn't have a direct influence on us, and it should morally anyway to know that this is happening somewhere in the world.

i don't agree with the kony2012 campaign because i think it's more about the film/charity involved than the actual contents of the film but that doesn't mean we should all just shut our eyes and minds and hope for the best.

[DPS]

charity starts at home anyway.. africa means nothing to me.
(and all other comments with this kinda message)

may i quote enter shikari? you know what sod it, gonna do it anyway:

"If our lives aren't directly affected, then it don't need to be corrected
how ******* cute is our ignorance"

just because you aren't in africa this doesn't mean this doesn't have a direct influence on us, and it should morally anyway to know that this is happening somewhere in the world.

i don't agree with the kony2012 campaign because i think it's more about the film/charity involved than the actual contents of the film but that doesn't mean we should all just shut our eyes and minds and hope for the best.

I still dont see your point. everyone is intitled to have there own views.

[beth]

I still dont see your point. everyone is intitled to have there own views.

everyone is definitely entitled to their own opinions.

we shouldn't ignore things just because they aren't happening in our front garden, if people/you care about this worlds population and health as a whole we should take an interest in things that are happening. even if you don't give money, you should be aware and educate yrself on these things.

i hate the idea that it doesn't matter because it's not here, so sod helping them. what are countries but lines across a map? we are all humans at the end of the day, we share this earth, we should help as much as we can.

i disagree with military help because like alex and many other doctrines have said there are children involved and the introduction of force before has had a negative effect on the country. but we shouldn't just give up. there are other ways of aid that don't include nuking and killing.

[dirrty]

everything will be forgotten by the majority in a week or two. pity

[beth]

everything will be forgotten by the majority in a week or two. pity

way the world works sadly ha,

[dirrty]

way the world works sadly ha,
like people have been joining groups/events saying they're gonna plaster the posters everywhere in april and i'm thinking, APRIL? you guys will have forgotten about this by mid-march :l and then some people think that by getting rid of kony, everything will be better. er, no...ever heard of a successor? and then there's the issue of the children - i think in the video the fella said they want to return the children home. it's not as easier as that lmao, they'll need to go to therapy to at least get over all that **** they've gone through (and tbf, they'll probably never get over it) - but i doubt that'd even be possible with the complete lack of funding and lack of everything else.

[beth]

like people have been joining groups/events saying they're gonna plaster the posters everywhere in april and i'm thinking, APRIL? you guys will have forgotten about this by mid-march :l and then some people think that by getting rid of kony, everything will be better. er, no...ever heard of a successor? and then there's the issue of the children - i think in the video the fella said they want to return the children home. it's not as easier as that lmao, they'll need to go to therapy to at least get over all that **** they've gone through (and tbf, they'll probably never get over it) - but i doubt that'd even be possible with the complete lack of funding and lack of everything else.

i think there is a guilt attached to this kony and people (because they've seen so many people react to it) think YEH OMG GOTTA DO SOMETHING but give it a couple of weeks and it'll be back to normal. like after the japanese earthquake my uni went mad on campus with fundraising and people doing plays and stuff about it, but give it a week and it's only the japanese students left standing.

i don't think i would ever be massively involved with something like this because i think there's too much grey area and stuff, but i am glad i have been educated about it and i know for a fact i will keep an eye on updates. i think sometimes that'd be better if everyone continued to monitor than give like £2.50 and wear a wristband.

[jasey]

Not necessarily taking a side on the issue but someone just posted this on Facebook and I found it interesting.

The Truth Behind Invisible Children (http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com.nyud.net/)


Invisible Children has been condemned time and time again. As a registered not-for-profit, its finances are public. Last year, the organization spent $8,676,614. Only 32% went to direct services (page 6), with much of the rest going to staff salaries, travel and transport, and film production. This is far from ideal, and Charity Navigator rates their accountability 2/4 stars because they haven’t had their finances externally audited. But it goes way deeper than that.


The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission. These books each refer to the rape and sexual assault that are perennial issues with the UPDF, the military group Invisible Children is defending.


The full article is on the link. I still think the Kony issue is important! This is just thought provoking.

[Mathew]

I've actually found this whole campaign really interesting, just by looking at the sheer power of the media and what effect a cleverly crafted video can have on people. It's amazing how easily people are led by a couple of celebrities and an attempted-emotional, thought-provoking video. Just a couple of minutes in, alarm bells should be ringing for us. There's powerful music, a strong sense of bohemian or even hippie culture and then a great spiel about this disasterous man in Africa. It's interesting to note that the chap presenting the video has used his son to help promote the cause. This is a clear case of appealing to our emotions and using emotional language in order to get us on side. We see a child talking about bad things so we sympathize with him and therefore agree with the cause - thousands of people are being manipulated by this video and most likely handing over their money to the company.

Whilst it's nice for the celebrities to offer their support on Twitter, any follower of Stephen Fry will know that his tweets largely consist of advertising or promotion these days. There was a time when we actually knew what he was doing, now it's more like following an advertising agency's feed. Of course it will raise awareness, but the celebrities simply won't carry out the background research and they will be unable to "support" it as we'd hope. I daresay if Rihanna was pressed, in an interview, for a reason why she supports Kony 2012, she wouldn't have the slightest clue what to say.

A study by the Frankfurt School looked at the effect of the media on a population - they said that it creates "false needs" in a society. This means that the media is responsible for everyone's shared love of the same music, the same fashion and the same interests. When something goes "viral", I can't help but think of this study and the similarities that are drawn between them. Everyone listens to the same "mainstream" music, everyone wears similar clothing and now: everyone is aware of Kony 2012 (if anyone has seen "We Will Rock You" on stage, this is their prediction for the future). This type is culture is extremely dangerous in a capitalist society, especially with the onset of propaganda and politics (which has obviously been abused, to an extent, in the past).

As I tend to say in most large charity threads - I just don't agree with them. We can see it day-in day-out with well-known charities such as Cancer Research UK, the British Heart Foundation, and now even Kony 2012. Whilst it's excellent that they're trying to make a difference and make the world a better place, a significant portion of your money is being spent on posting free pens and flyers through your door, and now even buying media equipment to produce such robust videos. By all means give to a local hospice or local charity, but I can't help but think these larger charities get complacent with their amount of income and do indeed throw it left, right and centre.

With all this said, I'm still drawn to the wonder of something going "viral". It's fantastic how one person's voice can be heard all across the world in a matter of seconds. It's safe to say that the charity wanted to use this to their advantage, although I would warn that they might just have bitten off more than they can chew. Interesting stuff.

[efq]

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[FlyingJesus]

That's nice of them, I wonder if they'll falsely report the international shipping charges as a "direct service" so they look like they give a decent amount of the money to the charity itself rather than spending 78% of it on staff salaries and travel

[beth]

Use discount code Stopatnothing for free international delivery.

.. if anybody is buying anything off them after reading this thread, something isn't right.

[JerseySafety]

good video and its so sad. also posted to like every social media site :P

[jasey]

Just a couple of minutes in, alarm bells should be ringing for us. Interesting stuff.

I totally agree. You post exactly what I am thinking.

[Nemo]

I've actually found this whole campaign really interesting, just by looking at the sheer power of the media and what effect a cleverly crafted video can have on people. It's amazing how easily people are led by a couple of celebrities and an attempted-emotional, thought-provoking video. Just a couple of minutes in, alarm bells should be ringing for us. There's powerful music, a strong sense of bohemian or even hippie culture and then a great spiel about this disasterous man in Africa. It's interesting to note that the chap presenting the video has used his son to help promote the cause. This is a clear case of appealing to our emotions and using emotional language in order to get us on side. We see a child talking about bad things so we sympathize with him and therefore agree with the cause - thousands of people are being manipulated by this video and most likely handing over their money to the company.

Whilst it's nice for the celebrities to offer their support on Twitter, any follower of Stephen Fry will know that his tweets largely consist of advertising or promotion these days. There was a time when we actually knew what he was doing, now it's more like following an advertising agency's feed. Of course it will raise awareness, but the celebrities simply won't carry out the background research and they will be unable to "support" it as we'd hope. I daresay if Rihanna was pressed, in an interview, for a reason why she supports Kony 2012, she wouldn't have the slightest clue what to say.

A study by the Frankfurt School looked at the effect of the media on a population - they said that it creates "false needs" in a society. This means that the media is responsible for everyone's shared love of the same music, the same fashion and the same interests. When something goes "viral", I can't help but think of this study and the similarities that are drawn between them. Everyone listens to the same "mainstream" music, everyone wears similar clothing and now: everyone is aware of Kony 2012 (if anyone has seen "We Will Rock You" on stage, this is their prediction for the future). This type is culture is extremely dangerous in a capitalist society, especially with the onset of propaganda and politics (which has obviously been abused, to an extent, in the past).

As I tend to say in most large charity threads - I just don't agree with them. We can see it day-in day-out with well-known charities such as Cancer Research UK, the British Heart Foundation, and now even Kony 2012. Whilst it's excellent that they're trying to make a difference and make the world a better place, a significant portion of your money is being spent on posting free pens and flyers through your door, and now even buying media equipment to produce such robust videos. By all means give to a local hospice or local charity, but I can't help but think these larger charities get complacent with their amount of income and do indeed throw it left, right and centre.

With all this said, I'm still drawn to the wonder of something going "viral". It's fantastic how one person's voice can be heard all across the world in a matter of seconds. It's safe to say that the charity wanted to use this to their advantage, although I would warn that they might just have bitten off more than they can chew. Interesting stuff.
I have to agree with how interesting it was to see things go viral. I'm a huge reddit addict, and they're usually quick to find things, so when I initially saw the video posted I thought nothing of it. It was another video, inspiring, but not that big of a deal. I considered helping to spread the word, but I decided not to because parts of the video made me unsure about it. Mainly the whole "This video expires on Dec 31st 2012". Why? It seems strange they'd put a time limit on themselves when this is such a huge deal, and has taken many years already to get to. But anyway, that was that and I went to bed.

When i woke up however, my whole facebook had been talking about. People who don't know each other all sharing it. I think something like 30 people on my (admittedly small) friends list were sharing it. That's a lot of people being told about it, who will then share as well. Then I got invited to the event on April 20th. 200,000 people invited, and a confirmed 18,000 going, and that's just in London. I think that's pretty incredible for just a day of awareness. I dunno, i'm kind of rambling here, but I thought it was pretty awesome that a single video, distributed to a few people can have such an impact on such a huge audience.

But then it's kind of scary when you consider the fact that a very small number of these people did no fact checking. They're just giving away their money to something they've been told about, by someone they know nothing about.

Oh also the fact that people are trying to get a petition signed for the UK and the US to send forces there. Are people actually insane? Do they not look at the news or know nothing of history? Idiots.

[LoveToStack]

Woo, lets all hop on the bandwagon. It must be a good cause if other people are mindlessly copy and pasting the URL right? Rest in peace cynicism.

[tdi]

HOORAY, SPONTANEOUS ACTIVISM!

[GommeInc]

It seems like PETA activism but for children, nothing you should take too seriously without a bit of research. One would hope they don't actively assault children like PETA do with animals. The only interesting thing to come out of this was how quickly it spread over the internet.

[jasey]

I just rewatched the video with more attention and even if the orginization behind this effort is far from perfect the cause is definitely something that moves me. I am not ashamed to say I teared up when I took a few minutes and considered what was going on. Not just there in Uganda but all of the injustices across the world. We have to start somewhere, and Joseph Kony and his actions are certainly a thing that needs to be taken out. In any way, whether you support this form of activism and the originization or not, please help change the world for the better in any way you feel comfortable or capable of.

[nvrspk4]

Step 1: Bring a horrifying issue to light that violates the morals of nearly every single human being on the planet (universal belief).
Step 2: Create a good video documenting it, using both facts and emotional appeals
Step 3: Release it to the public, and give them a very easy, low-effort way to be involved (share the link)
Step 4: Becomes a phenomenon, and people are now more likely to participate because everyone seems amped. Those who are really into it start finding out that their less-gung-ho friends know about it and are against it, and drag them along.

Very effective campaign. Though there's clear stretching of the facts and some gaps they jump, at the end of the day I think it's universally agreed that Joseph Kony is a bad man and heightened awareness leads to less tolerance of his crimes. Simply starting this discussion was a success in my opinion, and now there's debate about what really should be done. Putting the issue in the public discourse is what needed to happen, and now there's some righting of the ship as the sensationalized campaign is being met with some different sets of facts, but the sensationalism was needed to get people talking. Now let's talk like rational individuals, continue to raise awareness, and see if something can't be done. When everyone agrees that a situation is screwed up (a la Gaddafi) things tend to happen. When there's disagreement, we have an Bashar al-Assad.

[GirlNextDoor15]

Don't we have World Court or something? There are possibly a million ways to stop him from doing it.. if he's real. However, I believe this campaign is quite good in educating the younger generations. Well, nobody forces you to donate as they are all so bloody expensive.. EUR or USD omg. But, I don't think raising awareness about this issue is harmful. I prefer it to be done for the purpose of education though.

[Jordy]

Don't we have World Court or something? There are possibly a million ways to stop him from doing it.. if he's real. However, I believe this campaign is quite good in educating the younger generations. Well, nobody forces you to donate as they are all so bloody expensive.. EUR or USD omg. But, I don't think raising awareness about this issue is harmful. I prefer it to be done for the purpose of education though.Myself and the rest of the world would be very interested in hearing about your "millions of ways to stop him from doing it" as quite frankly no one else has come up with a feasible way of stopping him, that's why the issue here is so tricky.

I've watched the video after reading lots about it beforehand and was thoroughly disappointed. Most the video is irrelevant to the cause and purely playing on your emotions. Essentially there's a minute in the video where it explains he captures childrens, turns boys into soldiers and girls into sex slaves. That is the only bit of factual information in the video, it hardly even features on Kony, I learnt barely anything about him and his acts during the video. I challenge anyone who watched a 30-minute documentation to tell me anything about Kony other than he captures children. There was no footage or interviews really and nothing remotely graphic so I didn't find it moving at all. It's basically a 30 minute video which is a fantastic example of viral marketing and emotional blackmail. I still can't get over how little the video actually focuses on the issue at hand.

[Jazz]

Kony 2012 is actually starting to get on my nerves now. Every few minutes i've got people on msn, facebook, twitter, tumblr saying the same things over and over and over. It also seems that whenever I express my opinion on Kony 2012 I am labelled a nasty individual or something. People are also sticking up for this project like they own the bloody idea, which annoys me so much.

Example - I was approached by somebody and they were asking me to watch the video and share it etc, I said yes I've already done it but I shan't be donating because they are in fact only spending 32% of my money on these kids, so I will probably donate to Tri and this was the response I got back:
Contains Swearing
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I didn't think this was fair on me tbh, I fully support the pledge side of Kony 2012, and I think that its a fabulous idea. I just don't agree with the amount of money they are actually giving to these kids.

[geo]

Kony 2012 is actually starting to get on my nerves now. Every few minutes i've got people on msn, facebook, twitter, tumblr saying the same things over and over and over. It also seems that whenever I express my opinion on Kony 2012 I am labelled a nasty individual or something. People are also sticking up for this project like they own the bloody idea, which annoys me so much.

Example - I was approached by somebody and they were asking me to watch the video and share it etc, I said yes I've already done it but I shan't be donating because they are in fact only spending 32% of my money on these kids, so I will probably donate to Tri and this was the response I got back:
Contains Swearing
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I didn't think this was fair on me tbh, I fully support the pledge side of Kony 2012, and I think that its a fabulous idea. I just don't agree with the amount of money they are actually giving to these kids.

I kind of agree with the last part. Although, I'm glad that the word is getting spread so much, so I don't agree with the first.

My friends found out about it today and where going on about how they're going to buy loads of stuff, but I did tell them I wouldn't be (I think) because of the fact that only 32% goes to the children. All my friends thought I was heartless, haha.

[Jazz]

I kind of agree with the last part. Although, I'm glad that the word is getting spread so much, so I don't agree with the first.

My friends found out about it today and where going on about how they're going to buy loads of stuff, but I did tell them I wouldn't be (I think) because of the fact that only 32% goes to the children. All my friends thought I was heartless, haha.

Oh no no, I didn't mean that I was against the word being spread. I'm on about the people who post on your wall 10/11 times a day, or make KONY 2012 groups on facebook and when you don't accept they send it again, and again. I'm all for people spreading, but not like over and over :-P

[geo]

Oh no no, I didn't mean that I was against the word being spread. I'm on about the people who post on your wall 10/11 times a day, or make KONY 2012 groups on facebook and when you don't accept they send it again, and again. I'm all for people spreading, but not like over and over :-P

I think it's going to be a dying hype. :P

[Jazz]

I think it's going to be a dying hype. :P

I really hope so :-P

[Jordy]

This is well worth a read;http://blog.givewell.org/2012/03/08/the-worst-killer-of-invisible-children-is-not-joseph-kony/

Points out how if people really care and want to help the people of Africa, a far more effective way (and statistically kills far more) would be to support Malaria charities.

[cocaine]

stopped trending on twitter and has died down on facebook. people are so pretentious.

[DPS]

I kind of agree with the last part. Although, I'm glad that the word is getting spread so much, so I don't agree with the first.

My friends found out about it today and where going on about how they're going to buy loads of stuff, but I did tell them I wouldn't be (I think) because of the fact that only 32% goes to the children. All my friends thought I was heartless, haha.

that doesnt go to the kids.. it goes to the Uganda Army, the rest goes to the CEO's of the charity

[Misawa]

Flavour of the month. No one actually cares enough to do anything more than 'Like' a Facebook status. It won't change a thing and you're naive if you think otherwise.

[Rozi]

This is well worth a read;http://blog.givewell.org/2012/03/08/the-worst-killer-of-invisible-children-is-not-joseph-kony/

Points out how if people really care and want to help the people of Africa, a far more effective way (and statistically kills far more) would be to support Malaria charities.

I agree, Malaria is a really great cause.
My uncle is actually a leading scientist in investigating ways to end malaria through lots of boring sciency things. I know that they are very close to a breakthrough but ofc research is very very expensive.

Malaria is a horrible disease and research into it will save far more many lives, and make many better than donating to a very dubious charity and a fairly dubious cause. As others have pointed out, the Ugandan army are far from saints themselves.

[GommeInc]

These campaigns lack any forethought when it comes to donating money. It raises awareness, yes, but is chucking money at a western country that isn't directly involved in Africa a good idea? Also, is raising awareness really going to help? Unless he decides to visit the United States of America or the United Kingdom any time soon, the answer is a definite "no" :P It's up to Uganda and other parts of Africa to sort out their own troubles, chucking money at a charity that seems to have fraud allegations linked to it doesn't seem that wise of an idea, and what on earth is a fundraising pack going to do!?

It's a problem, but the world is filled with them. Uganda already have some aid coming from the US to hunt the man, there's nothing else to do and as far as reports go, they're already aware of what he does. The charity is going to make a lot of money out of this, Christ knows what they are going to do with it all - hopefully donate it to worthy casued like the aforementioned malaria treatment and research.

[Richie]

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I don't like people who are sheep. About 90% of the people who are moaning about it are. People on facebook annoy me "Buying the kit" yet the only person they really ever cared about is themselves. UGH.

[FiftyCal]

I like how people jumped on the bandwagon. Stuffs been happening for years and all of a sudden people care. Oh man better stop Kony, youtube and facebook said so.

[IceNineKills]

I like how people jumped on the bandwagon. Stuffs been happening for years and all of a sudden people care. Oh man better stop Kony, youtube and facebook said so.

Sure it's been happening for years but noone knew about it. Nobody knew who Kony was. Now we do.

[GommeInc]

Sure it's been happening for years but noone knew about it. Nobody knew who Kony was. Now we do.
And it won't make any difference :P Kony isn't planning on coming to the US or the UK to do a tour of taking more children, and all this publicity has done is make him more aware in the west than in Africa where the real problem is.

[IceNineKills]

And it won't make any difference :P Kony isn't planning on coming to the US or the UK to do a tour of taking more children, and all this publicity has done is make him more aware in the west than in Africa where the real problem is.

Sure but I bet the same was thought about the Al-Qaeda before they smashed the Twin Towers etc. We shouldn't have to wait for something like that to happen to us before taking action.

[GommeInc]

Sure but I bet the same was thought about the Al-Qaeda before they smashed the Twin Towers etc. We shouldn't have to wait for something like that to happen to us before taking action.
He isn't a global threat, and making him seem like one isn't going to solve the problem. Raising awareness doesn't do anything, nor does chucking money at some charity which doesn't need all this money. Uganda have been after him for years, and before this awareness campaign following "flock logic", America had already committed some servicemen to flush him out of the area. The problem needs to be taken up with Africa, so Africa in general can solve its own problems and put a stop to these things.

Also, Al-Qaeda was a huge problem before the Twin Towers and like all terrorist activities, it caught everyone off guard.

[DPS]

Whos Al-Qaeda? lol ask the people they call "Al-Qaeda" and they will tell you they dont know wtf "Al-Qaeda" is lol. Just another made up thing from the Americans.

And i said it from the start and will say it again.. Kony is a nice man imo.