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Conspiracy.
26-03-2012, 08:08 PM
What's your opinion on pornography?

Honestly, I see nothing wrong with it. As long as the porn stars are 18+ and are giving consent I don't see the problem. It's their life and body and they can do what they want. People saying it's "demeaning" and "sexist" but it's their choice. I'd say it's more sexist not to allow them to have a choice.

Obviously child porn, animal porn, (actual) rape porn is disgusting but they have no choice.

What do you think?

Richie
26-03-2012, 08:11 PM
What man hasn't watched porn before? Unless he's extremely gay and lost the stem to his flower. I watch it sometimes but feel like I'm doing something wrong watching it, like I'm being bad and breaking the law. Am i the only one who feels that way lol? Obviously anything I watch is legit but I still feel bad. I'm sexist though, I don't imagine girls watching porn to me girls are just innocent and hate sex, that is really bad isn't it?

Nemo
26-03-2012, 08:16 PM
Unless he's extremely gay ?
Can you explain your reasoning for that please?



I don't imagine girls watching porn to me girls are just innocent and hate sex, that is really bad isn't it?
I wouldn't say sexist, more naive than anything. Maybe a bit sexist.

Richie
26-03-2012, 08:19 PM
Can you explain your reasoning for that please?



I wouldn't say sexist, more naive than anything. Maybe a bit sexist.

You see again I don't picture gay guys watching porn neither. Wait, that sounds really bad I promise I don't imagine straight guys watching porn I don't mean in a literal sense. Yeah I guess I am naive.

buttons
26-03-2012, 08:24 PM
I watch it sometimes but feel like I'm doing something wrong watching it, like I'm being bad and breaking the law. Am i the only one who feels that way lol?
i used to feel that way. when i was like 13. I DO SOMETIMES FEEL BAD CAUSE WHAT IF THERE'S A HEAVEN AND MY GRANDMA LOOKS DOWN ON ME? WATCHING PORN. WHAT WOULD SHE THINK?

Obviously anything I watch is legit but I still feel bad. I'm sexist though, I don't imagine girls watching porn to me girls are just innocent and hate sex, that is really bad isn't it?
hahahahaha. ah you're so naive and old fashioned. :P girls can participate in porn, guys can watch girls having sex but girls aren't allowed to watch? :P i don't like bringing up the topic in real life because it's not a classy thing to do but if i'm asked then i'll give my views on it.

i don't see a problem with it at all but that's the way we've been socialized, everything is so sexualised now a days. god damn japanese government censoring (badly) their porn :( i find porn hilarious, seriously a guy in a freddy kruger mask? wtf. plus it's SO FAKE. the only thing i think is really bad is that it pressures people to live up to that sort of standards when it just doesn't happen irl. not that i've experienced or my friends. + it's annoying people say porn is only for those who don't get laid. pretty sure you can watch it while doing the deed...

Metric1
26-03-2012, 08:41 PM
It's wonderful and I don't know what I would do without it.

Catchy
26-03-2012, 09:03 PM
I see what you mean about the feeling bad bit @Yet (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=51359) I still do that when I buy alcohol even though I've been legal to for the past year and a bit now but I still feel like I shouldn't be buying it and get really nervous lmfao.

On the topic of porn, I don't see a problem with it as long as it's legit. The only thing that worries me about porn is how much it's glamourised (especially American production studios) they glamourise it so much, I've read a bit of Jenna Jameson's book and she really goes into detail on how the industry REALLY is, it sounds so tough and she's been through everything you could possibly imagine. I guess they kind of do have to 'glam' it up though to a certain extent.

Also the issue about children watching porn well... This is the thing, I think it's always going to be done I don't think anyone can honestly say "I didn't watch porn as a minor" because I think most people have. It's just one of those things that we can't stop. At the end of the day humans are sexual beings so I don't see a problem with it we aren't all amish lol.

Oh and also I don't see how it's sexist, the women get paid more then the men and most of the time they're the ones who choose who they want to work with, they get to choose what they want to do etc. At the end of the day it's just a job, somebody has to do it at the end of the day especially in America where you can actually make a full blown career out of it and possibly even crossover to doing mainstream stuff.

dbgtz
26-03-2012, 09:16 PM
Porn is vile.

Lol jk I don't see anything wrong with it quite simply, I hate people who argue it should be removed etc. I mean, people are allowed to do it and watch it (18+) so there's no real debate on it in my opinion. It's just parents being lazy and not being able to stop their kid looking at it, and it's probably the same lazy parents who want things like video games banned etc. so it frustrates me. There was some other point I was going to make, but I forgot.

Conspiracy.
26-03-2012, 10:07 PM
Eh, I'm a girl and watch porn :P

This may blow your mind, but, I'm a virgin D: -plays shocking music-

Plucked
26-03-2012, 10:09 PM
Eh, I'm a girl and watch porn :P

This may blow your mind, but, I'm a virgin D: -plays shocking music-

Holy **** thats insanity!!! I'm also a virgin, we should hook up sometime... JK!

Porn is ok.


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beth
26-03-2012, 10:12 PM
don't see a major problem with porn and i think most problems that arise from pornography are to do with the individual involved rather than the content of the film.

i watch porn and i'm a girl, like jen said i don't rly shout about it irl because it's just a bit skanky, but if someone asked i'd be honest about it. nothing wrong with itttt.

Inseriousity.
26-03-2012, 10:27 PM
Lol this big debate seems to pop up quite a lot doesn't it ;)

I have looked at the evidence and after much hard thought and reflection have come (lol this was not intentional i swear) to the conclusion that it's completely harmless. The idea that kids are damaged by it makes it sound like a new thing but it's not really, it's just in a new form. It's no longer the day when you have to smuggle dirty hardcore magazines into your room, you can find it all online so thank God for whoever invented the internet imo.

GommeInc
26-03-2012, 10:36 PM
You see again I don't picture gay guys watching porn neither. Wait, that sounds really bad I promise I don't imagine straight guys watching porn I don't mean in a literal sense. Yeah I guess I am naive.
They do, and quite a few people I know have starred in it - they've changed because of it too and are not who they used to be :(

I don't particularly have an interest in porn, but as long as it is properly moderated it's fine. It's down to the mentality of the porn star themselves, who sometimes end of psychologically messed up in more ways than one.

Conspiracy.
26-03-2012, 10:46 PM
Lol this big debate seems to pop up quite a lot doesn't it ;)

I have looked at the evidence and after much hard thought and reflection have come (lol this was not intentional i swear) to the conclusion that it's completely harmless. The idea that kids are damaged by it makes it sound like a new thing but it's not really, it's just in a new form. It's no longer the day when you have to smuggle dirty hardcore magazines into your room, you can find it all online so thank God for whoever invented the internet imo.
awesome, right? :P
LOL

Jordy
27-03-2012, 02:45 PM
Must admit it did make me a bit naive about sex when it eventually came to it after years of watching porn. I kind of expected a load of loud screaming, ******s etc first time which admittedly wasn't quite the case and came about times afterwards but I can honestly say I was a bit disappointed sex isn't really like porn what so ever. I doubt I'm the only person who's felt this too (How else would I know what sex would be like?).

Can honestly say though I've no issues with it.

AlexHenry
27-03-2012, 04:42 PM
Don't really care about it as long as the user is like obv. not a young person :)

buttons
27-03-2012, 07:31 PM
interesting that people say that the stars always consent to porn? saw this in the news today;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2120823/How-Deep-Throat-star-Linda-Lovelaces-tragic-life-modern-morality-tale.html



In 1972, she starred in Deep Throat, a phenomenally successful hardcore sex film that would make her the world’s first porn superstar, but later an unlikely feminist icon after it emerged she had effectively been raped in making it.

FlyingJesus
27-03-2012, 07:54 PM
The whole Linda Lovelace thing is completely blown out of proportion because she suddenly changed about everything her mind when she wanted to identify as a feminist. It's essentially remorse with a blameshift, and is frankly a disgusting thing to do considering how damaging a false rape claim is on its own, let alone with worldwide publicity. There's a film called "Inside Deep Throat" which is a feature about the porn film, and in it there are multiple interviews and testimonies that show her as acting fully in the knowledge of what was happening and with complete consent.

I don't doubt that her partner at the time was a bad person who took advantage of the state she was in when they got together, but that is completely different to raping someone.

Conspiracy.
27-03-2012, 08:54 PM
It's the daily fail so I'm not even going to bother reading it.

Deeb
27-03-2012, 10:11 PM
Porn is harmless - It's just too easily accessible for children.

DeejayMachoo
28-03-2012, 12:41 AM
When I was younger I used to watch porn a-lot. Almost every day (well atleast 3 times a week). But now i'm a bit older living with my partner I don't see the need to watch it.

Not saying that I'll rule out watching it but I think porn is generally something you do by your self. Nothing wrong with it and I think everyone even if they say they haven't has watched it at some point :)

-Matt

Jazz
28-03-2012, 10:59 AM
ive watched it before but i laugh all the way through it cuz i just find it amusing. obviously some porn is horrid, like child etc is out and is the most disgusting thing urghh but 'normal' porn isnt too bad

Zak
28-03-2012, 11:45 AM
Porn is a wonderful gift clearly given by God to brighten up our lives ;)

Laura watches it, I watch it.. It never really relates to normal sex as there's never really a lot of passion.. so sex > porn always!

NeverSkem
28-03-2012, 11:51 AM
TBH when Im younger I watched Porn 2x a Day but Today I didnt like it now because it stink!

Stephen
28-03-2012, 08:41 PM
I hate the porn with stupid music and stupid moaning or should I say SCREAMING it's so annoying

amateur stuff is the best

Conspiracy.
28-03-2012, 09:31 PM
Porn stars trying to act is the most amusing :') You're not an actor, you're paid to have sex, do it.

Stephen
28-03-2012, 10:26 PM
i just hate the fakeness of it

anyone who watches that crap should have their genitals cut off

jasey
28-03-2012, 11:47 PM
I don't like porn. I know that I am the minority.

beth
29-03-2012, 12:54 AM
I hate the porn with stupid music and stupid moaning or should I say SCREAMING it's so annoying

amateur stuff is the best

omg theres never a bigger turn off when the music comes on hahahahhahahahha.

DeejayMachoo
29-03-2012, 09:37 AM
omg theres never a bigger turn off when the music comes on hahahahhahahahha.

I'm not gonna lie ive never seen music in porn rofl.

Conspiracy.
30-03-2012, 12:59 PM
You're lucky. It's ridiculous :')

nikitar
09-04-2012, 04:55 PM
I don't see anything wrong as long as their is consent by all involved. I think their should be some changes. In Europe, you can be held accountable for your actions when you're 10 (few years either way not sure of exact age) if the authorities believe that 10 year olds can make their own decisions I believe people as young as 13 should be able to start in pornography if they want to.

HotelUser
09-04-2012, 05:22 PM
I am male and I am also not religious, so due to both these facts I happen to think porn is wonderful.

Conspiracy. long time no speak, old friend, hope you have been well :)

Ellz
09-04-2012, 07:10 PM
You see again I don't picture gay guys watching porn neither. Wait, that sounds really bad I promise I don't imagine straight guys watching porn I don't mean in a literal sense. Yeah I guess I am naive.

well i'm gay and i watch it from time to time

i used to feel like horrible after watching, now it doesnt really bother me

Showder
11-04-2012, 12:50 PM
Ok, I have watched porn like.... twice (one was a dare) and I dislike it. Big breasts, fake-enlarged butts are some ways porn star do to gain popularity. Wait, is there such thing as male porn star? Never heard.

Lanyon
11-05-2012, 12:51 PM
Porn is mentally scarring. You will learn to act a little bit like a pornstar or know things (at least a little bit) like a pornstar when you have sex. I know I do. I regret watching porn for that reason. However, because I have watched porn, I also have learnt a lot and anyone who watches it for enjoyment is actually also watching it educationally too! So porn isn't so bad after all. When it comes to Animal porn, actual rape, incest and child porn.... these are the categories no one should ever watch or support.

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Ok, I have watched porn like.... twice (one was a dare) and I dislike it. Big breasts, fake-enlarged butts are some ways porn star do to gain popularity. Wait, is there such thing as male porn star? Never heard.

Have you tried amateur porn? Maybe you will like that?

lawrawrrr
11-05-2012, 12:56 PM
oh god it's so fake... kinda laughable at times really. it can be so bad though, cos if you watch too much before really having rl experiences then it creates really high (and unreachable) standards, like massive boobs and dingdongs.

on the other hand it can be a nice way to live out fantasies by watching other people do them... idk.

FlyingJesus
11-05-2012, 02:18 PM
Porn is mentally scarring. You will learn to act a little bit like a pornstar or know things (at least a little bit) like a pornstar when you have sex.

But surely you KNOW that most "porn positions" are uncomfortable and ungainly and so won't do them... I'd have thought that people would do what feels best during sex rather than what they think it right because Brazzers told you so :S

Lanyon
11-05-2012, 03:03 PM
But surely you KNOW that most "porn positions" are uncomfortable and ungainly and so won't do them... I'd have thought that people would do what feels best during sex rather than what they think it right because Brazzers told you so :S

Porn positions are uncomfortable?? I have tried a few and I know what my girl and I find easy and what my girl and I find uncomfortable.. and it's the missionary that wins for me. However there are multiple angles you can do the missionary that give you completely different experiences. Personally me and my girlfriend ditch the bed and go onto the floor, we have no idea why but it feels better on the floor.

Now from personal experience, I actually dislike the girl being on top because it's uncomfortable as it's a terrible angle anyway. So I guess you could say porn positions are uncomfortable. In the end, different couples like different positions. Some girls are more sensitive, some guys have smaller or larger or thinner or thicker *Removed* and it seems to just work out for some.

Oh and since I know so much about porn I have a fact that most people actually don't know. Ready? I'll tell you it!

...

Do you know Brazzers picked it's name. Because they looked at all the average *Removed* length size for each country and Congo came out on top! Guess what the capital of Congo is? Brazzaville.

Now wouldn't you like to live in Congo? Haha.. Your capital city's website is a porn site tehe :)

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oh god it's so fake... kinda laughable at times really. it can be so bad though, cos if you watch too much before really having rl experiences then it creates really high (and unreachable) standards, like massive boobs and dingdongs.

on the other hand it can be a nice way to live out fantasies by watching other people do them... idk.

Haha totally agree.. the boobs get so fake that it's ugly! and what's with all the black dudes with 26 inch*Removed* ejaculating 100 liters of soap and water.

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lawrawrrr
11-05-2012, 03:14 PM
But surely you KNOW that most "porn positions" are uncomfortable and ungainly and so won't do them... I'd have thought that people would do what feels best during sex rather than what they think it right because Brazzers told you so :S
but say there's people who watch porn before they actually have sex, they're gonna think that you have to do things like that because that's what sex is? how do they know any different? i guess yeah after trying that they'd realize no, but they cant know how realistic it is beforehand..


Haha totally agree.. the boobs get so fake that it's ugly! and what's with all the black dudes with 26 inch *Removed* ejaculating 100 liters of soap and water.
lmfao i know right! i actually know someone who genuinely stopped getting with girls because he thought he was too small... i literally turned round to him like.... TOO MUCH PORN cos it was not that small, just compared to pornstars i guess its average. i mean they say you basically cant be a successful male pornstar unless youve got a 10 incher, i think, and the average is what, 6? so yeah totally misleading.

Zak
11-05-2012, 04:36 PM
Actually not a lot of porn stars have 10 inch penises, utter misconception. Johnny Sins is very well known and his penis is well.. smaller than mine. xD I must admit though porn stars tend to be in the 8-9 category which is very large.

Sex is horrible at first but when you get more comfortable and you have a flexible partner porn stars positions that they do purely because it looks good on camera can be some of the best. *REMOVED*

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FlyingJesus
11-05-2012, 05:03 PM
Porn positions are uncomfortable?? I have tried a few and I know what my girl and I find easy and what my girl and I find uncomfortable.. and it's the missionary that wins for me.
[etc etc]
In the end, different couples like different positions. Some girls are more sensitive, some guys have smaller or larger or thinner or thicker *Removed* and it seems to just work out for some.

Oh I quite agree, everyone has favourites and some people prefer different things to others, my comment about uncomfortable porn positions is mainly in reference to the sideways ones - going at it side by side can be great but when you have to be at a very specific angle for the camera you're often leaning or twisting in very unnatural ways for a prolonged period of time, and that's the biggest (in many cases, only :P) complaint I've ever seen from people in the industry


and what's with all the black dudes with 26 inch *Removed* ejaculating 100 liters of soap and water.

Haha I know what you mean, those ones are hilariously bad :D cannot understand why anyone watches those ones except as comedy


but say there's people who watch porn before they actually have sex, they're gonna think that you have to do things like that because that's what sex is? how do they know any different? i guess yeah after trying that they'd realize no, but they cant know how realistic it is beforehand..

Certainly to start with you may have certain preconceptions of what it's meant to be like, but at first it's rubbish anyway so might as well explore your options :P


i mean they say you basically cant be a successful male pornstar unless youve got a 10 incher, i think, and the average is what, 6? so yeah totally misleading.

The average length is actually about 5" from proper studies, the 6" myth is something that came about from a study that simply asked people how big they were rather than being medically measured, ridonkulously poor research methods there!
So to anyone out there who thinks they're small out front, just remember that even if you're under 5", statistically speaking so is about 50% of the world's population of penis-bearers

Lanyon
11-05-2012, 05:06 PM
but say there's people who watch porn before they actually have sex, they're gonna think that you have to do things like that because that's what sex is? how do they know any different? i guess yeah after trying that they'd realize no, but they cant know how realistic it is beforehand..


lmfao i know right! i actually know someone who genuinely stopped getting with girls because he thought he was too small... i literally turned round to him like.... TOO MUCH PORN cos it was not that small, just compared to pornstars i guess its average. i mean they say you basically cant be a successful male pornstar unless youve got a 10 incher, i think, and the average is what, 6? so yeah totally misleading.

Yeah the average is about 6 I think.. Well it depends what your background is and all sort of.. well not really but.. The country with the largest average size is Congo. It's larger than then other African countries because didn't France colonize Congo or something and France is pretty good for an average size too! So then when you mix the native Africans and some French in one country... it's not surprise they have the highest average size in the world 7.1 inches! Now I'm not even that! But If I was in South Korea then I would stand tall bahaha because they have the lowest average of 3.8 inches!

USA = 5.1 Inches
AUS = 5.2 Inches
UK = 5.5 Inches
NZ = 5.5 Inches
Germany = 5.7 Inches
France = 6.3 Inches
Lebanon = 6.6 Inches

lol... to be honest if your between 5 and 7 inches your doing great lol.. If your 4-5 you better have skill! :) and if your over 7.. play safe :P

and if those averages are too scary for you then here's some that will cheer you up...

India = 4.0 Inches
Philippines = 4.2 Inches
China = 4.3 Inches
Japan = 4.3 Inches
Malaysia = 4.4 Inches
Singapore = 4.5 Inches

GommeInc
11-05-2012, 06:29 PM
but say there's people who watch porn before they actually have sex, they're gonna think that you have to do things like that because that's what sex is? how do they know any different? i guess yeah after trying that they'd realize no, but they cant know how realistic it is beforehand..
Most people who attempt to have sex know what is and isn't comfortable. At the age of having or even thinking about sex, you would know how to sit on a chair properly and comfortably, or look at a completely unfamilar wall that can be used as a place to sit and know how to comfortably use it. If people are having sex and don't know the boundaries of comfort then they're probably aged between 0 and 6. If they're trying out a position and find it uncomfortable, they will stop. They're not mindless drones, people who feel pain know where it is coming from and will rectify the problem by having sex in a position that both feel comfortable with, they won't carry on in some awful position that isn't pleasurable... It's so beautifully simple it's bizarre to think people are having sex uncomfortably because of porn...

It's based on the same principles of not trying to stick your head into your better half's sensitive areas, or both trying to do it while hovering in thin air. You can try, but you'll get bored and try traditional, obvious positions. If they go on to try and then cause harm to themselves, well, they're probably mentally and physically not meant to be breathing and living. It's a shock they've gotten to the age of having sex :P

lawrawrrr
11-05-2012, 07:36 PM
Most people who attempt to have sex know what is and isn't comfortable. At the age of having or even thinking about sex, you would know how to sit on a chair properly and comfortably, or look at a completely unfamilar wall that can be used as a place to sit and know how to comfortably use it. If people are having sex and don't know the boundaries of comfort then they're probably aged between 0 and 6. If they're trying out a position and find it uncomfortable, they will stop. They're not mindless drones, people who feel pain know where it is coming from and will rectify the problem by having sex in a position that both feel comfortable with, they won't carry on in some awful position that isn't pleasurable... It's so beautifully simple it's bizarre to think people are having sex uncomfortably because of porn...

It's based on the same principles of not trying to stick your head into your better half's sensitive areas, or both trying to do it while hovering in thin air. You can try, but you'll get bored and try traditional, obvious positions. If they go on to try and then cause harm to themselves, well, they're probably mentally and physically not meant to be breathing and living. It's a shock they've gotten to the age of having sex :P

I wasn't speaking quite as literally as that. Obviously some things aren't going to be comfortable, so people would stop. It's things like, say, the amount of bondage in porn videos - people might think that that's what an essential part of sex is, so they think they have to do that. Sex is just such a taboo subject in our society that noone gets explicity told anything, they have to find it out for themselves.

An example I just thought of - when I was about 7 or 8, I saw somone peel a banana bottom upwards. I never had bananas at home (for several reasons), so I'd never really watched anyone open one before. I thought it was normal, and that's how I've always opened bananas ever since. Because I hadn't seen any different, I didn't know it was more normal for people to open them the other way round. If someone's exclusively watched porn which only contains anal sex, how are they supposed to know that it is more conventional to have sex with other areas?

dirrty
11-05-2012, 07:41 PM
I wasn't speaking quite as literally as that. Obviously some things aren't going to be comfortable, so people would stop. It's things like, say, the amount of bondage in porn videos - people might think that that's what an essential part of sex is, so they think they have to do that. Sex is just such a taboo subject in our society that noone gets explicity told anything, they have to find it out for themselves.

An example I just thought of - when I was about 7 or 8, I saw somone peel a banana bottom upwards. I never had bananas at home (for several reasons), so I'd never really watched anyone open one before. I thought it was normal, and that's how I've always opened bananas ever since. Because I hadn't seen any different, I didn't know it was more normal for people to open them the other way round. If someone's exclusively watched porn which only contains anal sex, how are they supposed to know that it is more conventional to have sex with other areas?
sex education, first-time experiences, talking to friends, doing own general research if unsure about whatever :S

lawrawrrr
11-05-2012, 07:42 PM
sex education, first-time experiences, talking to friends, doing own general research if unsure about whatever :S
my sex ed never had explicit this is how you have sex talks. it was just how to stay safe, not how to do it. i genuinely think people use porn as general sex research, i guess talking to friends would work but ive never spoken to my friends about really explicit stuff like that...

Metric1
11-05-2012, 11:16 PM
I quite like porn.

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Zak
14-05-2012, 09:37 PM
I must say, I was seeing a girl who told me she learnt what to do "from porn" and she was just down right awful. xD

-:Undertaker:-
14-05-2012, 11:40 PM
I don't watch porn but it does entertain me to watch internet freedom warriors rally against 'government nannying' when they are the ones who support state nannying in regards to business, health and safety, smoking, alcohol etc.

Recursion
16-05-2012, 04:58 PM
I don't watch porn but it does entertain me to watch internet freedom warriors rally against 'government nannying' when they are the ones who support state nannying in regards to business, health and safety, smoking, alcohol etc.

Now I see how you turn every thread into an argument...

dbgtz
16-05-2012, 06:43 PM
my sex ed never had explicit this is how you have sex talks. it was just how to stay safe, not how to do it. i genuinely think people use porn as general sex research, i guess talking to friends would work but ive never spoken to my friends about really explicit stuff like that...

One could argue that being taught how to stay safe could make them have sex sooner which is what government (and I guess parents) want to stop. I don't even see the point of sex ed, people survived fine without it and the fact that the internet is such a massive resource, it's almost pointless.

Judas
17-05-2012, 09:56 PM
I don't watch porn but it does entertain me to watch internet freedom warriors rally against 'government nannying' when they are the ones who support state nannying in regards to business, health and safety, smoking, alcohol etc.

how are any of those things comparable to having a quickie before bedtime though?

-:Undertaker:-
17-05-2012, 10:43 PM
Now I see how you turn every thread into an argument...

http://www.iaza.com/work/120518C/iaza17174295843900.bmp


how are any of those things comparable to having a quickie before bedtime though?

I'm referring to the recent government plans to censor porn.

Judas
18-05-2012, 12:04 AM
I'm referring to the recent government plans to censor porn.

I know. And I'm referring to the fact that them deciding whether people should be able to watch porn or not is not comparable to the decisions they need to make to do with the things you listed.

-:Undertaker:-
18-05-2012, 12:11 AM
I know. And I'm referring to the fact that them deciding whether people should be able to watch porn or not is not comparable to the decisions they need to make to do with the things you listed.

Er well actually it is when they cry about 'freedom' as the basis of their opposition to it when it's clearly not.

I support liberty (freedom) and I object strongly to hypocrites using it as a basis for their argument when they don't really mean it, it tarnishes a good idea and demeans the word.

Judas
18-05-2012, 12:35 AM
Er well actually it is when they cry about 'freedom' as the basis of their opposition to it when it's clearly not.

I support liberty (freedom) and I object strongly to hypocrites using it as a basis for their argument when they don't really mean it, it tarnishes a good idea and demeans the word.

I can't really see what the point you're trying to make is here, but I have a strong feeling you're just blowing something out of proportion as usual so don't worry

-:Undertaker:-
18-05-2012, 12:52 AM
I can't really see what the point you're trying to make is here, but I have a strong feeling you're just blowing something out of proportion as usual so don't worry

*REMOVED*

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Judas
18-05-2012, 01:13 AM
*REMOVED*

How pretentious of you, not that I'm surprised. Does it make you feel better about yourself by acting condescendingly to people you don't know over the internet for no good reason?

No one in this thread was even talking about freedom, or anything you said. You were just debating against some unnamed "internet warriors", so don't get upset when I'm questioning the relevance of your post.

-:Undertaker:-
18-05-2012, 01:29 AM
How pretentious of you, not that I'm surprised. Does it make you feel better about yourself by acting condescendingly to people you don't know over the internet for no good reason?

No one in this thread was even talking about freedom, or anything you said. You were just debating against some unnamed "internet warriors", so don't get upset when I'm questioning the relevance of your post.

Ha! oh the irony. It was you who decided to turn personal and post a smart alec reply instead of posting (if you were genuinely interested and not just out to have a shot at myself) something along the lines of "I don't understand, could you elaborate?". I mean you're still doing it now, you've posted numerous times and everytime they've been personal with absolutely nothing on the topic at hand mentioned even once.

So no, I won't elaborate because you're not even remotely interested.

Judas
18-05-2012, 01:37 AM
Ha! oh the irony. It was you who decided to turn personal and post a smart alec reply instead of posting (if you were genuinely interested and not just out to have a shot at myself) something along the lines of "I don't understand, could you elaborate?". I mean you're still doing it now, you've posted numerous times and everytime they've been personal with absolutely nothing on the topic at hand mentioned even once.

So no, I won't elaborate because you're not even remotely interested.

Urm, if you read back to my first two posts at you they both refer to the topic at hand...

"how are any of those things comparable to having a quickie before bedtime though?"

How is that personal or taking a shot at you? It's not my fault that you constantly think EVERYTHING I say to you is a dig. As you happily pointed out to Recursion, this is the Debates section, so it's remarkable that you seem so offended and shocked when you are asked to elaborate on your point. You took me asking a simple question to you the wrong way - that isn't my problem.

Good lord |-)

-:Undertaker:-
18-05-2012, 01:52 AM
Urm, if you read back to my first two posts at you they both refer to the topic at hand...

"how are any of those things comparable to having a quickie before bedtime though?"

How is that personal or taking a shot at you? It's not my fault that you constantly think EVERYTHING I say to you is a dig. As you happily pointed out to Recursion, this is the Debates section, so it's remarkable that you seem so offended and shocked when you are asked to elaborate on your point. You took me asking a simple question to you the wrong way - that isn't my problem.

Good lord |-)

No, the following posts were certainly a dig as was Recursions post because he's still upset from the other debate (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=747855&page=2) we had hence why he made a point about me as opposed to the point I made. Anyway, I can tell from the personal shots you just want to continue with that line of argument, so why bother to waste my time explaining a) something you're not even interested in as shown by your eagerness to make personal digs & b) something very simple ... Because if you can't think of examples of state nannying in relation to business, alcohol and smoking then why would I even bother.

If you can (and i'm sure you can, just you dont want to) then that's great - we can debate the point then and not me.

Blinger
18-05-2012, 05:44 AM
I remember reading somewhere that pornstars don't actually last that long they just cut to different angles and stuff. And that sometimes its hard for the guys to get it up because they aren't turned on and so forth!

I also think granny porn is feral! Shall not ever watch that ****. Ew!
IMO armature is "best" because its the least faked, who are you gonna try and impress, especially if its for the two of you..
Would any of you guys ever make a movie when your older (obviously for you and your partner) - apparently it helps you because you see where you are lacking/what turns the other person on or whatever..

kirstenxo
19-05-2012, 01:19 AM
me and my bf jamie lyk 2 watch porn together before we the durty lol but i wudnt watch it on my own cause thats lyk wrong lmao

lawrawrrr
19-05-2012, 10:50 AM
I remember reading somewhere that pornstars don't actually last that long they just cut to different angles and stuff. And that sometimes its hard for the guys to get it up because they aren't turned on and so forth!

I also think granny porn is feral! Shall not ever watch that ****. Ew!
IMO armature is "best" because its the least faked, who are you gonna try and impress, especially if its for the two of you..
Would any of you guys ever make a movie when your older (obviously for you and your partner) - apparently it helps you because you see where you are lacking/what turns the other person on or whatever..
Even amature is faked though sometimes, i remember one that said 'HER FIRST whatever' or just amature but you can just tell theyve done it before. That's the properly produced though, the normal-people sex vids are more real i suppose

An interesting question about making a sex vid, it's a bit iffy because if you ever broke up with them, what's to say they won't put it online? Would be kinda cool to watch i guess though :P


me and my bf jamie lyk 2 watch porn together before we the durty lol but i wudnt watch it on my own cause thats lyk wrong lmao
Wrong? How do you explain that?

Judas
19-05-2012, 04:03 PM
No, the following posts were certainly a dig as was Recursions post because he's still upset from the other debate (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=747855&page=2) we had hence why he made a point about me as opposed to the point I made. Anyway, I can tell from the personal shots you just want to continue with that line of argument, so why bother to waste my time explaining a) something you're not even interested in as shown by your eagerness to make personal digs & b) something very simple ... Because if you can't think of examples of state nannying in relation to business, alcohol and smoking then why would I even bother.

If you can (and i'm sure you can, just you dont want to) then that's great - we can debate the point then and not me.

Good lord, whatever.

-:Undertaker:-
23-05-2012, 08:23 PM
Good lord, whatever.

Why are you still replying to my posts when you reported my earlier post (like a small child unable to have its own way) where I correctly stated that you couldn't, to quote, 'comprehend' my simple argument? it seems some things simply don't change, because you've yet again failed to respond with anything of real substance preferring rather to attempt to get a personal reaction out of me which you've partially succeeded in doing.

FlyingJesus
23-05-2012, 09:30 PM
IMO armature is "best" because its the least faked, who are you gonna try and impress

An armature is a model (usually mesh wire) used for sculpting. Trying to bang one of those would either be totally fruitless or ridiculously painful!

Judas
24-05-2012, 08:08 PM
Why are you still replying to my posts when you reported my earlier post (like a small child unable to have its own way) where I correctly stated that you couldn't, to quote, 'comprehend' my simple argument? it seems some things simply don't change, because you've yet again failed to respond with anything of real substance preferring rather to attempt to get a personal reaction out of me which you've partially succeeded in doing.

oh wow STOP that post was almost a week ago. you love to hold a good grudge, don't you :L I'm done here

Blinger
24-05-2012, 11:06 PM
An armature is a model (usually mesh wire) used for sculpting. Trying to bang one of those would either be totally fruitless or ridiculously painful!

obviously i meant amateur ;)

-:Undertaker:-
25-05-2012, 08:54 PM
oh wow STOP that post was almost a week ago. you love to hold a good grudge, don't you :L I'm done here

A grudge? says the one who a) reports for me saying correctly that he's unable to comprehend a simple argument & b) continues to response afterwards. I feel I have to reply, because people like yourself won't learn until they're shown up, ie resorting to reporting posts to win an argument they've already lost.

..and yet to prove my point, still no response to the actual debate topic despite countless chances. Dismal.

The Don
26-05-2012, 03:05 AM
Please tell me -:Undertaker:-; how government regulation of Alcohol and cigarettes is in any way shape or form comparable to that of porn?

-:Undertaker:-
28-05-2012, 11:28 AM
Please tell me -:Undertaker:-; how government regulation of Alcohol and cigarettes is in any way shape or form comparable to that of porn?

In that government thinks it knows whats best for you. The state may argue that getting trashed every night out on the town is bad for you (I happen to agree) just as it may also argue that porn is dangerous for younger children along with being morally destructive (I again, agree). The difference between myself and government, is that I don't pretend to know how to order your life or enforce my morality on you and others.

The general point is, when you argue for something you think to be bad to be regulated or banned by the state - you then have no real argument when the state decides to enforce another groups' moral system/opinions on you for something you enjoy doing. One personal example would be that I enjoy having a kebab now and again - I know they are dangerously unhealthy just as cigarettes are, yet why should cigarette consumers be punished while I am not? the answer is, that neither should be punished or told what to do because in a free society we ought to be allowed to take risks ourselves.

scottish
01-06-2012, 12:49 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/boy-aged-12-raped-girl-after-viewing-online-porn-7808669.html


A 12-year-old boy who raped a nine-year-old girl after watching hardcore pornography on the internet has been spared jail.

The judge instead ordered him to be sent to a children's panel where he can be kept under supervision after hearing that he was "emulating adults".

Lady Smith told the boy, now 14, that he was being given a chance to "make something of yourself" but she cautioned: "You should not and must not regard pornography as any guide at all as to how to behave sexually."

However, defence counsel Sean Templeton warned that the case may be "the tip of the iceberg" and that there is a danger teenagers are watching the internet and absorbing mistaken ideas about sex.

"There is a real risk that young people of the current generation of teenagers are growing up with a skewed view of what sex is and sexual activity," he told the High Court in Edinburgh.

"This is the tip of the iceberg. Many, many cases throughout the country may not be identified, not reported, not coming to anyone's attention," said the defence counsel.

The boy, whose identity is protected by law, admitted rape and sexual assault against the girl in a Scottish island community between 1 December 2010 and 31 January 2011.

Mr Templeton added: "This was an emulation of an adult act witnessed by him at this young age. He was afforded unfettered access to the internet and it has become apparent from a very young age, the age of 12, he was accessing hardcore pornography. "The behaviour witnessed was reminiscent of the acts carried out by him,"

"The hope obviously is the behaviour can be addressed in order that he can go on to have a normal adult life."

The offences came to light when the girl complained to her mother that she had a sore stomach and asked whether it could be caused by being pregnant.

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