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David
04-04-2012, 12:22 AM
this is great, refresh the new posts page and it's not the same threads :P
gonna win me some vip ;)

beth
04-04-2012, 12:31 AM
i agree i think it's good it's an individual thing too because some people (i know myself included) can get demotivated if they see one person posting away and obviously winning, but everyone can win if they take really try: so good idea :)

:odey:
04-04-2012, 12:32 AM
It is a fantastic idea, I agree :)

The MODs probably wont appreciate giving out several warnings in the morning though I wouldn't think.. haha :)

Jurv
04-04-2012, 12:35 AM
it really is a brilliant idea, let's just hope the amount of threads increase as well as the posts, haha.

SackRace
04-04-2012, 12:48 AM
Brilliant idea just hope that it doesnt start getting spammed.

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It is a fantastic idea, I agree :)

The MODs probably wont appreciate giving out several warnings in the morning though I wouldn't think.. haha :)


Haha true!!

Aaron
04-04-2012, 12:56 AM
Yeah it really is a good idea, the first prize isn't hard to get either! It was a great idea, but not nice for the MODs of the forum. ;)

Gina
04-04-2012, 12:57 AM
I love this idea, spec cos i want vip/donator, mines running out ;d

GirlNextDoor15
04-04-2012, 06:20 AM
Oli had one back then but it was a whole different concept. This one is pretty much the same with a new way of giving out the prizes. Let's just hope the old members won't have a fit when new threads are created and new posts are posted. but i know they will. i just know it.

Sloths
04-04-2012, 06:30 AM
Great idea hopefully this will bump up the life of the forums and prays for spam back ;)

Showder
04-04-2012, 06:32 AM
LOL, at GirlNextDoor15, I agree, buts again, its a fun way to chill, and a another great way to keep forumers online for a long time.

Alex3213
04-04-2012, 06:50 AM
I think the prize system works far better now. Whilst there is a prize for the overall winner, you can still win regardless of whatever anyone else is doing and I feel that it has a much better concept. :)

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 07:55 AM
Well done, you have once again filled the forum with threads and posts which are of little substance, borderline spam and generally do not promote discussion.

I hope you're proud of yourselves.

==
Seriously, what is the point in this thread?
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743026

This post, obviously looking for something to make a post about (And about as close to offtopic as it gets):
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742944&p=7481549#post7481549

Ten second post:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742879&p=7482356#post7482356

This post and below, again zero effort:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742644&p=7482245#post7482245

Thread merged by Chris (Forum Super Moderator): As there is already a thread on this!

xxMATTGxx
04-04-2012, 08:04 AM
Well done, you have once again filled the forum with threads and posts which are of little substance, borderline spam and generally do not promote discussion.

I hope you're proud of yourselves.

==
Seriously, what is the point in this thread?
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743026

This post, obviously looking for something to make a post about (And about as close to offtopic as it gets):
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742944&p=7481549#post7481549

Ten second post:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742879&p=7482356#post7482356

This post and below, again zero effort:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742644&p=7482245#post7482245

Only two you have linked are actually taking part in the challenge. The first one would of been posted regardless because it's something that is probably new to the Habbo site and they wanted to share it with others, well the rest you can report as normal if you feel that they are breaking any of the rules. But you can't blame the posting challenge fully on those links you have shared due to the fact that only two of the users you have linked to are actually taking part in it! :P

JerseySafety
04-04-2012, 08:05 AM
awesome!!

except the silly people posting in the report rares values forum saying 'Thanks for posting these values' in threads from months ago.

/facepalm

Charlie
04-04-2012, 08:06 AM
I think it's an awesome idea. It was nice to come on and see threads to reply to, just as long as people don't spam.

Zelda
04-04-2012, 08:10 AM
I like this, won't cause people to give up as they dont think they can win either. :)

Motivation for us rs folks to post everythig we get in our achievement threads or what :)

Amberr
04-04-2012, 09:24 AM
I agree I think I think its a brilliant idea, i need vipppppp ha.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 09:25 AM
due to the fact that only two of the users you have linked to are actually taking part in it! :P
People have a habit of not reading the rules properly...

=Lizzy
04-04-2012, 09:25 AM
amazing to come on so early (earlier) and it was active
brilliant idea people :D

beth
04-04-2012, 09:28 AM
my only problem is when people sodding bump welcome threads and stuff, but otherwise it definitely seems to be working in terms of boosting activity :)

geo
04-04-2012, 09:28 AM
This system is so much better, I agree with the others! Love the idea that you have to get a certain amount to get a prize. :)

GirlNextDoor15
04-04-2012, 09:30 AM
Idk what's happening lag post I fink

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 09:31 AM
my only problem is when people sodding bump welcome threads and stuff, but otherwise it definitely seems to be working in terms of boosting activity :)
As long as moderators keep their wits about them and make sure to pounce on zero-effort posts it's fine, currently that's not really happening :(

Catchy
04-04-2012, 09:31 AM
my only problem is when people sodding bump welcome threads and stuff, but otherwise it definitely seems to be working in terms of boosting activity :)

Yes! I seen someone do that as soon as I logged on, I was thinking what the hell! And it's a great idea :)

Aiden
04-04-2012, 09:31 AM
I Love the idea just need to find out how many post ive made in the time period?

Tom
04-04-2012, 09:32 AM
Obviously, moderators can't catch everything. That's 4 out of a probable 20 posts per day that are pointless. If you feel they're pointless (don't add anything to the thread) then feel free to just report the post, that wasy something can be done about it. ;)

The posting competitions has it's ups and downs, yes, but at the end of the day the aim is to get people posting around and that's happening right now. So, as some people on the forum see things, the system works so why remove it? I don't have the same view as "keep the system because it works" and obviously, I'm wasn't totally for the posting competition. But, it is what it is I'm afraid.

GirlNextDoor15
04-04-2012, 09:33 AM
Omg what happened with this forum. I swear I saw two posts of mine and so, I edited one of it!! But like I said, I knew this would happen although the posts have been like that for the past few months!!

Hollie
04-04-2012, 09:35 AM
I think the prize categorys are a good idea cause then people wont give up cause they think someone else is in the lead cause they'll still get something

GirlNextDoor15
04-04-2012, 09:37 AM
LOL, at GirlNextDoor15, I agree, buts again, its a fun way to chill, and a another great way to keep forumers online for a long time.

As in spamming, isn't it? Like tell me how many posts are really constructive and 'on topic'. I can only see a few constructive posts in graphics section but if that's how it is, the moderators will then shut up until you bring out a discussion about it.

beth
04-04-2012, 09:37 AM
As long as moderators keep their wits about them and make sure to pounce on zero-effort posts it's fine, currently that's not really happening :(


Yes! I seen someone do that as soon as I logged on, I was thinking what the hell! And it's a great idea :)

yeah it's just stupid, if someone made a welcome thread 4 weeks ago they don't need to be welcomed now... sure they're fine.

also moderators need to be keeping an eye on the single answer threads "what are you listening to/last eat/watching/how're you feeling/what you wish you could say" as those kind of things can be abused so easily.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 09:38 AM
That's 4 out of a probable 20 posts per day that are pointless.
To be honest I wasn't looking that hard and I saw many more that were borderline.


Obviously, moderators can't catch everything.
Assuming that you have blanket time-zone coverage and that the new posts page works properly I don't see why moderators can't, especially since you're aware (Unless scott is being delusional and thinks every post caused by the competition is productive) that pointless posts are very probable guaranteed in cases where you see the same name several times in a row on the new posts page.

beth
04-04-2012, 09:41 AM
generally, i think the posts you've listed would've been made whether there was a contest or not. i think the forum is more active and that's a good thing whether people are being bribed to post or not. i've made my point in the other thread regarding the posting contest though.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 09:42 AM
also moderators need to be keeping an eye on the single answer threads "what are you listening to/last eat/watching/how're you feeling/what you wish you could say" as those kind of things can be abused so easily.
And creation of these kinds of threads should be banned for the course of the posting competition as well...

Catchy
04-04-2012, 09:42 AM
yeah it's just stupid, if someone made a welcome thread 4 weeks ago they don't need to be welcomed now... sure they're fine.

also moderators need to be keeping an eye on the single answer threads "what are you listening to/last eat/watching/how're you feeling/what you wish you could say" as those kind of things can be abused so easily.

Forum games don't count towards the challenge Bethie, w8 are they in forum games? Regardless I'm sure they wont either.

-Amyy
04-04-2012, 09:43 AM
I think its a really good idea as it gets people posting more :)

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 09:44 AM
i think the forum is more active and that's a good thing whether people are being bribed to post or not.
I've seen a couple of threads get moved to spam and lose all activity, this is a temporary boost which GM will parade around for a week or so before the forum is empty again. I just hope this entices people to be a bit more active in future.

Edit: Also someone needs to read through all of this guys posts, a lot of them are questionable:
http://www.habboxforum.com/search.php?searchid=802247

Catchy
04-04-2012, 09:44 AM
bethany; the funniest thing just happend hahahahahhaa I can not breath. Somebody posted in an old welcome thread but the thing is they'd already commented it on like the first page!!!

tag fail

beth
04-04-2012, 09:46 AM
I've seen a couple of threads get moved to spam and lose all activity, this is a temporary boost which GM will parade around for a week or so before the forum is empty again. I just hope this entices people to be a bit more active in future.

yeah it does annoy me how people are now staying away from spam cause they know it doesn't count towards their totals 8-) but yaknow. i also agree that it is a temporary fix for a long term problem but i don't think there's been any other bright ideas to improve posting at the moment so it's worth a try, and if it does have a sustained effect then it's all good. if not, no harm done really.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 09:49 AM
yeah it does annoy me how people are now staying away from spam cause they know it doesn't count towards their totals 8-) but yaknow. i also agree that it is a temporary fix for a long term problem but i don't think there's been any other bright ideas to improve posting at the moment so it's worth a try, and if it does have a sustained effect then it's all good. if not, no harm done really.
I'd rather they run 7 days worth of "Member of the day" instead, that way posts promoting discussion, actually relevant, interesting, helpful occur more, it's this kind of discussion people stay for really.

beth
04-04-2012, 09:50 AM
I'd rather they run 7 days worth of "Member of the day" instead, that way posts promoting discussion, actually relevant, interesting, helpful occur more, it's this kind of discussion people stay for really.

well that's a nice idea that could be used in the future but i don't think it was an idea on the table before this started?!

Catchy
04-04-2012, 09:51 AM
I'd rather they run 7 days worth of "Member of the day" instead, that way posts promoting discussion, actually relevant, interesting, helpful occur more, it's this kind of discussion people stay for really.

I think that would actually of worked out better. With only having 24 hours people are posting like headless chickens probably thinking "omg I ain't got long" where as if it was over 7 days I don't think people would be as frantic about it and calm down with the bumping of old threads etc.

GirlNextDoor15
04-04-2012, 09:55 AM
agreed 3 days are too short imo. oli had it a week mattg!

Samantha
04-04-2012, 09:55 AM
The only thing that's annoying me is people are posting things that could be found with searching back a couple of weeks. I've been making threads about things that intrigue me and posting here or there instead of pointless posting when I can. Some of the posts I've noticed have been dealt with though so maybe it wont be as bad as last time?

Jordan
04-04-2012, 09:58 AM
Guys, guys. About this 'nothing is happening about pointless posts atm' thats because I've only just woken up and not many other mods are up at the moment. In a competition/game thing like the posting competition the report function really helps a lot as you can see already there are hundreds of posts which I will go through eventually. Instead of moaning about these posts you can see please report them.

Jssy
04-04-2012, 10:01 AM
It's a great idea :)

beth
04-04-2012, 10:09 AM
Forum games don't count towards the challenge Bethie, w8 are they in forum games? Regardless I'm sure they wont either.


bethany; the funniest thing just happend hahahahahhaa I can not breath. Somebody posted in an old welcome thread but the thing is they'd already commented it on like the first page!!!

tag fail

naaa these are all in music/entertainment/discuss anything there's a few that are out of the games section for historic reasons.

and trolololol unlucky.

Vause
04-04-2012, 10:14 AM
it's a great idea, aslong as you guys don't post every second! we can't keep up. just be careful because we have our eyes on you at all times.

good luck everyone :)

SugartasticB
04-04-2012, 10:16 AM
Great Idea and it will keep forum users active :)

Richie
04-04-2012, 10:18 AM
right lads how do i enter, gonna whoooop u all

:odey:
04-04-2012, 10:23 AM
right lads how do i enter, gonna whoooop u all

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742766&p=7479575#post7479575

Just join the posting group and go for it ;)

Inseriousity.
04-04-2012, 10:27 AM
Perhaps if you receive a mod edit on one of your posts and you're in the posting challenge group, you lose -2 posts as a consequence?

Anyway it's good that it's an individual reward system this time!

:odey:
04-04-2012, 10:33 AM
Perhaps if you receive a mod edit on one of your posts and you're in the posting challenge group, you lose -2 posts as a consequence?

Anyway it's good that it's an individual reward system this time!

Would it be easy for them to implement that system though? :o

And then it might be tricky for people to keep track of how many posts they've actually done?

'cause there isn't a way is there unless you just know? :(

Richie
04-04-2012, 10:34 AM
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742766&p=7479575#post7479575

Just join the posting group and go for it ;)

omg can i not do it anymore

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Perhaps if you receive a mod edit on one of your posts and you're in the posting challenge group, you lose -2 posts as a consequence?

Anyway it's good that it's an individual reward system this time!

or they should know the rules anyway and automatically be kicked from the comp, simples

Andii
04-04-2012, 10:37 AM
lmao i love it woooooo :D

beth
04-04-2012, 02:02 PM
i am gonna be honest, i am getting a bit bored of seeing "photo of my cat" photo of my dog" "photo of my neighbours dead horse" threads.

Seikou
04-04-2012, 02:06 PM
think it's a really good idea, i'm definately posting like mad aha

Matthew
04-04-2012, 02:06 PM
Its much better with possible prizes for everyone rather than just the top 3 getting prizes.

Lets see if this gets people posting after its ended though- obviously this has got people posting in the short term; but whether or not it carries on into the long term is another matter.

Definitely a good competition though, well done :)


i am gonna be honest, i am getting a bit bored of seeing "photo of my cat" photo of my dog" "photo of my neighbours dead horse" threads.

Yeah agreed. And to be honest, this competition although creating posts, isn't really creating much more discussion for me- as if people are just sorta posting for the reward and not to make a discussion.

beth
04-04-2012, 02:12 PM
Its much better with possible prizes for everyone rather than just the top 3 getting prizes.

Lets see if this gets people posting after its ended though- obviously this has got people posting in the short term; but whether or not it carries on into the long term is another matter.

Definitely a good competition though, well done :)



Yeah agreed. And to be honest, this competition although creating posts, isn't really creating much more discussion for me- as if people are just sorta posting for the reward and not to make a discussion.

this morning i felt like there were a few more conversations being created but i just came back to the forum to find very dead end threads (simple questions that don't promote much conversation i.e: how do you do this/that) and now i would very much agree with Chippiewill and his earlier points.

edit: bloody tagging fail.

Matthew
04-04-2012, 02:16 PM
this morning i felt like there were a few more conversations being created but i just came back to the forum to find very dead end threads (simple questions that don't promote much conversation i.e: how do you do this/that) and now i would very much agree with @Chippiewill (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=40007) and his earlier points.

edit: bloody tagging fail.

Main problem for me are the 'What are you listening to' type of threads. I know this argument has been had tonnes of times, and I'm not saying you should remove these threads, but look at them- they're booming (even more than usual...) but how much discussion is actually going on there? None.

People just seem to post in there as its an easy way to get your postcount up. They don't care what others have listened to, and I bet most don't even look at the posts in there; its just a quick "Oh I haven't posted what I'm listening to for 5 minutes" and I'm guessing its literally just a 10 second job- open thread, post, leave thread. There's no discussion at all.

beth
04-04-2012, 02:19 PM
Main problem for me are the 'What are you listening to' type of threads. I know this argument has been had tonnes of times, and I'm not saying you should remove these threads, but look at them- they're booming (even more than usual...) but how much discussion is actually going on there? None.

People just seem to post in there as its an easy way to get your postcount up. They don't care what others have listened to, and I bet most don't even look at the posts in there; its just a quick "Oh I haven't posted what I'm listening to for 5 minutes" and I'm guessing its literally just a 10 second job- open thread, post, leave thread. There's no discussion at all.

yeah, we've had a couple more opened recently that haven't been moved to forum games (which is fine, i think some of them are okay) but i do worry that they may be abused during the next 3 days. threads such as things you'd like to say someone but can't/what you last purchased/how're you feeling.

David
04-04-2012, 02:23 PM
merge all the pet threads with the thread that is literally on the next page specifically for pets.

beth
04-04-2012, 02:26 PM
merge all the pet threads with the thread that is literally on the next page specifically for pets.

no sorry, we only do that for wrestling.

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merge all the pet threads with the thread that is literally on the next page specifically for pets.

no sorry, we only do that for wrestling.

David
04-04-2012, 02:30 PM
no sorry, we only do that for wrestling.

hahaha, that's true. why havent the music threads been merged into what're you listening to

buttons
04-04-2012, 02:36 PM
what the **** has happened why is everyone like THIS IS A GREAT IDEA its not really i dont get it you just have to post? the same as the last one? :S (yea ive read the thread im confused) & mods are complaining about pointless posting i don't see how this is going to help omg what

anyway i joined but i'll be posting as i normally do..?

beth
04-04-2012, 02:38 PM
what the **** has happened why is everyone like THIS IS A GREAT IDEA its not really i dont get it you just have to post? the same as the last one? :S (yea ive read the thread im confused) & mods are complaining about pointless posting i don't see how this is going to help omg what

anyway i joined but i'll be posting as i normally do..?

haha innit, i'd probably post the same as i was if there wasn't a reward but i would enjoy some vip. i need some for 2013..............

Matthew
04-04-2012, 02:39 PM
what the **** has happened why is everyone like THIS IS A GREAT IDEA its not really i dont get it you just have to post? the same as the last one? :S (yea ive read the thread im confused) & mods are complaining about pointless posting i don't see how this is going to help omg what

anyway i joined but i'll be posting as i normally do..?

Because there's not just 3 prizes, there's an unlimited amount I suppose so everyone can win something.

Last time only 3 people got a prize, this time everyone who posts X times gets this, everyone who posts Y times gets this etc

edit; not sure if thats what you were asking but never mind xD

j0rd
04-04-2012, 02:51 PM
I love it, they should be posted more regularly!

Succubus
04-04-2012, 02:54 PM
It's a great idea!
It keeps everything all so fresh and there's always something you can commit to.

buttons
04-04-2012, 03:07 PM
Because there's not just 3 prizes, there's an unlimited amount I suppose so everyone can win something.

Last time only 3 people got a prize, this time everyone who posts X times gets this, everyone who posts Y times gets this etc

edit; not sure if thats what you were asking but never mind xD
okay i see. i think it's silly to try to increase activity by doing competitions. there will be a surge of people posting for the duration of the competition then it'll go back to the same old people posting. + knowing that staff are only posting for their post count/prizes instead of trying to get involved with the community they're supposed to work for is kinda annoying and off putting. suppose it can't hurt though....other than the pointless posting

anyway not gonna complain cause everyone is loving this fresh and funky new idea ;l not

Matthew
04-04-2012, 03:09 PM
okay i see. i think it's silly to try to increase activity by doing competitions. there will be a surge of people posting for the duration of the competition then it'll go back to the same old people posting. + knowing that staff are only posting for their post count/prizes instead of trying to get involved with the community they're supposed to work for is kinda annoying and off putting. suppose it can't hurt though....other than the pointless posting

anyway not gonna complain cause everyone is loving this fresh and funky new idea ;l not

Yeah I agree, it always happens though- posting goes up for the competition and then drops again.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 03:23 PM
In my opinion the following threads should be temp locked:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743212
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=566384
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=613830
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=25567
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=691235
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=660259
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=740823
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=702879
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=678226
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=733301
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=739420
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=735553
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=738365
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742408
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=741587


btw.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743209 - Should also be moved to spam

David
04-04-2012, 03:29 PM
In my opinion the following threads should be temp locked:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743212
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=566384
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=613830
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=25567
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=691235
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=660259
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=740823
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=702879
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=678226
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=733301
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=739420
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=735553
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=738365
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742408
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=741587


btw.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743209 - Should also be moved to spam

most of them you cant even spam so you're overdoing it, i agree with the obvious ones like music, last thing you bought, papoy etc.

Jordan
04-04-2012, 03:32 PM
In my opinion the following threads should be temp locked:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743212
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=566384
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=613830
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=25567
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=691235
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=660259
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=740823
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=702879
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=678226
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=733301
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=739420
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=735553
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=738365
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742408
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=741587


btw.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743209 - Should also be moved to spam

If you see any users abusing these threads because you think they are doing it for the post count, report one of their posts and we will look into it. I have already Pm'd a few because of this and will continue to do so if I need to. :)

beth
04-04-2012, 03:35 PM
In my opinion the following threads should be temp locked:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743212
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=566384
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=613830
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=25567
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=691235
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=660259
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=740823
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=702879
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=678226
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=733301
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=739420
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=735553
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=738365
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742408
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=741587


btw.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743209 - Should also be moved to spam

think yr overdoing it on a few for example: "what was yr first online game" and "is it snowing where you are" don't think they're a massive probably. probably "what is yr favourite chocolate bar" also because it's not like people can post multiple times with ACTUALLY NA LOVE A BOOST and 10 mins later, NA BANG ME A TWIX. but like what are you listening to/watching should be temp closed but then i think, like, it just ruins it for people who aren't involved with the contest who use that thread correctly (@Neversoft for example) and i also don't believe papoy should be closed, people just need to keep an eye on it. if we're gonna have these "strict" rules then they need to be enforced.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 03:42 PM
If you see any users abusing these threads because you think they are doing it for the post count
I figured that temp locking threads would be simpler than me spamming the report button for all the 22,060 posts in the WAYLT

Jordan
04-04-2012, 03:44 PM
I figured that temp locking threads would be simpler than me spamming the report button for all the 22,060 posts in the WAYLT

Well I'll speak to Matt about it but I don't think he will agree with them being temped locked. You don't have to report every post from 1 person, just a post from them and we will look at there activity in that thread.

Chris
04-04-2012, 04:20 PM
Posting competitions piss me off. No ones posting because they want to, a lot of people are posting for the sake of posting and when this competition is over everything will go back to normal and activity will be reduced again.

Oh & yeah, report posts cause its easier for us than reading every single post on the forum.

buttons
04-04-2012, 04:55 PM
Posting competitions piss me off. No ones posting because they want to, a lot of people are posting for the sake of posting and when this competition is over everything will go back to normal and activity will be reduced again.

Oh & yeah, report posts cause its easier for us than reading every single post on the forum.
that's what i said
no-one will be posting soon cause soon everything will be 'pointless' posting. that's more off putting than this stupid competition.
'for the sake of posting' THAT'S WHAT A FORUM IS FOR. NOT A COMPETITION BUT TO POST, WHETHER IT HAS A POINT OR NOT.

beth
04-04-2012, 04:58 PM
I figured that temp locking threads would be simpler than me spamming the report button for all the 22,060 posts in the WAYLT

well that's rubbish because not ALL posts in that thread are pointless, but we do this argument over + over. you may not be interested in what people are listening to, but i am sometimes ha.

right question i see listening has been closed, will this be re-opened at the end of the thing because there are people who use that thread responsibly who support this forum by posting whether there's a competition or not, i like that thread.

Chris
04-04-2012, 05:00 PM
that's what i said
no-one will be posting soon cause soon everything will be 'pointless' posting. that's more off putting than this stupid competition.
'for the sake of posting' THAT'S WHAT A FORUM IS FOR. NOT A COMPETITION BUT TO POST, WHETHER IT HAS A POINT OR NOT.

People are posting for the sake of competition, not because they actually want to.

Also the what are you listening to thread has been closed until the end of the competition.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 05:06 PM
Also the what are you listening to thread has been closed until the end of the competition.

I was about to flip out..
Jurv;
Today, 12:57 AM
Today, 02:35 AM
Today, 02:51 AM
Today, 03:02 AM
Today, 03:05 AM
Today, 03:09 AM
Today, 03:16 AM
Today, 01:06 PM
Today, 01:14 PM
Today, 01:38 PM
Today, 02:26 PM
Today, 02:31 PM
Today, 03:21 PM
Today, 04:47 PM
Today, 05:02 PM
Today, 05:28 PM
subtle.

:odey:;
Today, 10:17 AM
Today, 10:45 AM
Today, 11:00 AM
Today, 11:05 AM
Today, 11:09 AM
Today, 05:15 PM
Today, 05:47 PM
Five posts within an hour eh?

J25T;
Today, 01:57 PM
Today, 02:28 PM
Today, 02:48 PM
Today, 03:01 PM
Today, 03:22 PM
Today, 03:35 PM
Today, 03:49 PM
Today, 04:23 PM
Today, 04:32 PM
Today, 04:41 PM
I'm liking how they almost all fit in a tidy fashion within two hours.

=Lizzy;
Today, 12:08 AM
Today, 09:02 AM
Today, 09:07 AM
Today, 09:18 AM
Today, 09:27 AM
Today, 09:41 AM
Today, 09:43 AM
Today, 09:46 AM
Today, 10:15 AM
Today, 10:21 AM
Today, 11:01 AM
Today, 11:08 AM
Today, 11:11 AM
Today, 11:30 AM
Today, 11:45 AM
Today, 11:51 AM
Today, 12:05 PM
Today, 12:08 PM
Today, 12:12 PM
Today, 12:16 PM
Today, 12:21 PM
Today, 12:31 PM
Today, 12:39 PM
Today, 12:44 PM
Today, 12:47 PM
Today, 12:55 PM
Today, 12:58 PM
Today, 01:03 PM
Today, 01:08 PM
Today, 01:13 PM
Today, 01:17 PM
Today, 01:28 PM
Today, 01:39 PM
Today, 01:48 PM
Words cannot describe

Chris
04-04-2012, 05:09 PM
I was about to flip out..
*snip*

All of those posts will probably be removed and not counted towards the competition. :)

=Lizzy
04-04-2012, 05:11 PM
ok yeah i got pmed about it and stopped.. its only a bit of fun lighten up gosh

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 05:14 PM
its only a bit of fun lighten up gosh
We already have a whole forum for trash fun posts: http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709

=Lizzy
04-04-2012, 05:16 PM
We already have a whole forum for trash fun posts: http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=709
yeah i know. im so sorry i clogged up your new posts with my music :(
i will post in there from now on.

Charlie
04-04-2012, 05:22 PM
I agree that it ruins it for other people who aren't in the competition. I'm in it and I'm not going round like a crazy person replying to everything pointlessly just to get posts, I'm in it because I'll be on and posting and if I manage to get something then fair enough but there is always going to be a group of people who will go round posting left, right and centre in hopes of getting a good post count and they should just be removed because it's ruining it for everyone else really.

It also sucks that it takes a competition to bring some activity to the forum.

Grig
04-04-2012, 05:22 PM
Posting competitions piss me off. No ones posting because they want to, a lot of people are posting for the sake of posting and when this competition is over everything will go back to normal and activity will be reduced again.

Oh & yeah, report posts cause its easier for us than reading every single post on the forum.

I agree. I've been sitting here for the past few threads saying it's all about quality and not quantity. Yet, it seems to me some thing that posting competitions are the best solution. I think other incentives would have been better.

:odey:
04-04-2012, 05:25 PM
I was about to flip out..
@:odey: (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=37924);
Today, 10:17 AM
Today, 10:45 AM
Today, 11:00 AM
Today, 11:05 AM
Today, 11:09 AM
Today, 05:15 PM
Today, 05:47 PM
Five posts within an hour eh?

That's hardly anything.

If I posted every song I listened to, it would be a LOT more than that.

It's a freakin' forum.

People were moaning there wasn't enough posts, now there's plenty, and still people are moaning.

It's a bit of fun and a competition at best, get over it please.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 05:25 PM
Blind competitions wouldn't be bad, announce that there'll be a day in an entire week when they'll count posts but don't say which one. The hardcore spammer types wouldn't bother putting all the effort in to do every single day.

Jurv
04-04-2012, 05:27 PM
oh, i forgot it was against the rules to post what i was listening to. thanks for letting me know..

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 05:29 PM
oh, i forgot it was against the rules to post what i was listening to. thanks for letting me know..
Actually it's always been against the rules to spam the thread.


That's hardly anything.
It's excessive. The idea of the thread is just to post the good ones rather than use it as a blatant way to get post count up.

:odey:
04-04-2012, 05:31 PM
Actually it's always been against the rules to spam the thread.

I thought spamming consisted of,

1) Saying things that didn't relate to the thread,
2) Constant double / triple posting,

I don't think we've done either of them.
They're what the thread is supposed to be, and there's a time frame between them, it was hardly one after another...

People do it all the time, not just when there's a competition on...

Grig
04-04-2012, 05:33 PM
You shoulda also really laid out the ground rules before doing this comp, as they're many things that can get through the net.

Hollie
04-04-2012, 05:35 PM
Other people post in that thread like that when the competition isn't on too so I don't get why it's such a big deal now the comp is on lol

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 05:36 PM
Other people post in that thread like that when the competition isn't on too so I don't get why it's such a big deal now the comp is on lol
Because normally it doesn't *quite* make it to 200 posts per day.


People do it all the time, not just when there's a competition on...
It's not allowed whenever and if people do that then they should be reported. From what I've been told in the past by management moderators *supposedly* check it for spamming frequently.

The thread really shouldn't be allowed in the first place and the only reason I don't press the issue very often is because it's *kinda* kept in check.

Jurv
04-04-2012, 05:37 PM
Actually it's always been against the rules to spam the thread.

how can you call it spamming when i doing what the thread told me to do and post what i was listening to?
i'm sure that if this competition wasn't going on it would have been fine and left alone.

=Lizzy
04-04-2012, 05:39 PM
i honestly think you are taking this to heart, no one else is making a big deal out of it. We got pmed and stopped, we also are having those posts taken away.
Only trying to make the forum more popular with posting!
:)

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 05:41 PM
how can you call it spamming when i doing what the thread told me to do and post what i was listening to?
That thread has ALWAYS been borderline against the rules as "~ Do not posts threads which only allow for short, one or two word answers and do not promote active discussion", it's been allowed (Against many people's objections) because normally it isn't abused.


i'm sure that if this competition wasn't going on it would have been fine and left alone.
It was due to the obvious abuse the thread was receiving at the time more than anything else.

You guys ought to be pleased that the thread was ever allowed to begin with and move on.


Only trying to make the forum more popular with posting!
"Post your" threads are not a display of a popular forum, just a spam-able one. People want to join forums with active discussion rather than threads which act like polls.

Grig
04-04-2012, 05:41 PM
i honestly think you are taking this to heart, no one else is making a big deal out of it. We got pmed and stopped, we also are having those posts taken away.
Only trying to make the forum more popular with posting!
:)

If this is the case then the issue seems settled. Otherwise you'll be going around arguing in a loop :P.

:odey:
04-04-2012, 05:42 PM
I don't understand why I should lose my posts from that thread when they're not breaking the rules at all imo...

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 05:44 PM
I don't understand why I should lose my posts from that thread when they're not breaking the rules at all imo...
The thread is against the rules, be happy it doesn't disappear for good.
"~ Do not posts threads which only allow for short, one or two word answers and do not promote active discussion"

Grig
04-04-2012, 05:45 PM
I don't understand why I should lose my posts from that thread when they're not breaking the rules at all imo...

Tbh, you have a point. The issue here being is that no one had any ground word when creating the competition and it was really fuzzy. Hence, there is nothing against it saying so. If there was, that would be fair. I'm on the fence on this one, seeing as I see Chippie's argument about it being easy posts as well.

It says "post threads" not "post IN threads" :P.

:odey:
04-04-2012, 05:46 PM
The thread is against the rules, be happy it doesn't disappear for good.
"~ Do not posts threads which only allow for short, one or two word answers and do not promote active discussion"

Well it seems to have survived 2 threads, and over 2000 pages in it's current thread before this competition, so...

Charlie
04-04-2012, 05:47 PM
I don't understand how it's against the rules though, yes it doesn't exactly promote active discussion but it's nice to see what other people are listening to and sometimes people do comment on what others are listening to so it does promote a small amount of discussion. If it was such a problem, they would have never allowed it in the first place and we wouldn't have threads like 'what did you last watch/eat/buy' and 'what are you wearing'. They are there because it's interesting to see what the other people last listened to/watched/bought/ate/wore.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 05:48 PM
Well it seems to have survived 2 threads, and over 2000 pages in it's current thread before this competition, so...
It's been tolerated. Live with the fact it was ever allowed and stop being butt-hurt that you can't cheat this one and in the process destroy forum discussion.



sometimes people do comment on what others are listening to
I've checked this one in the past GENERALLY 2.5% of posts involve *some* form of discussion. THAT'S PATHETIC. And also a pathetic excuse to keep the thread at all really.


If it was such a problem, they would have never allowed it in the first place
If it's not abused to intentionally boost post count alone then it's fine.

:odey:
04-04-2012, 05:49 PM
It's been tolerated. Live with the fact it was ever allowed and stop being butt-hurt that you can't cheat this one and in the process destroy forum discussion.

Well tolerate it more.

It's only a 3-4 day competition, get over it.

You want the whole forum shut down by the sounds of things, sorry that people want to post and win some VIP...

And it's hardly 'destroying forum discussion' in one thread.

Jordan
04-04-2012, 05:50 PM
I don't think many people actually realise how much of a strain it is on the moderators having to keep an eye on 3000 posts? The ones that @Chippiewill (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=40007); listed above are some of the people who have broken the rules and will probably be looked into a little more and see what comes out.

@Jurv (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=64841); Yes we know that thread is for posting what you are listening to and yes you are doing that, but since the posting competition it's strange how there is a sudden surge in posting from similar people. The rules of the posting competitions have always been the same, and relying on those sort of threads is breaking one of them.

@:odey: (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=37924); I think yours are perfectly fine as it's such a small number really anyway.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 05:52 PM
Well tolerate it more.
I shouldn't have to.


It's only a 3-4 day competition, get over it.
It's only a 3-4 day competition, get over it.


You want the whole forum shut down by the sounds of things, sorry that people want to post and win some VIP...
Nope, I want people to make proper posts with interesting responses rather than make the forum look like trash with two second posts designed to boost post count.


And it's hardly 'destroying forum discussion' in one thread.
Time spent spamming that thread could (At least according to xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=741736)) be spent having active discussion on the forum.

beth
04-04-2012, 05:52 PM
i think 5 posts in that thread is acceptable, i think i have about 300 in there over 7 years haha but it's knowing where to stop. lizzie's amount was a bit too much but she admitted she'd done wrong and that's the end of it. i don't see tom's as a problem. anything over 5 to me in a day is an issue.

Stephen
04-04-2012, 05:55 PM
EVERYONE IS FIGHTING TODAY

IT'S AWESOME

I HOPE YOU ALL DIE OF AIDS

Edited by Jordan (Forum Super Moderator): Please post positively

:odey:
04-04-2012, 05:56 PM
If you don't want to tolerate it, stay away from it. Hide that section of forums.

You can either have no discussions, or pointless discussions, you decide.

Thanks for getting my post count up in this thread anyway, and I'm finished on the matter.

It's pointless that you feel so against that thread, when there's nothing wrong with it, and has been there for god knows how long.

shiver
04-04-2012, 05:58 PM
omg why is everyone ********? i am glad to see the forum so active, i haven't seen it so active in AGES. maybe even since old spam days.

and half of the threads that chippiewill has listed as "spam" don't constitute as spam imo!

some people are just never pleased

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 06:01 PM
If you don't want to tolerate it, stay away from it. Hide that section of forums.
That's like saying if you don't like racism you should just leave.


You can either have no discussions, or pointless discussions, you decide.
None please :)


It's pointless that you feel so against that thread, when there's nothing wrong with it,
a) Against forum rules
b) Given a little bit of slack as far as that's concerned - this was over the edge


and has been there for god knows how long.
**** THIS STATEMENT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition


I HOPE YOU ALL DIE OF AIDS
LOVE YOU TOO

The Don
04-04-2012, 06:12 PM
hahahaha I'm in stitches, Chippie is hilarious when he's having a hissy fit

Edited by Chris (Forum Super Moderator): Please stay on topic!

Jurv
04-04-2012, 06:13 PM
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1p0jlxPBb1qabutio1_500.gif
i'm sorry for making a wrong decision, i'll remember not to post in that thread in the future.
when there's a posting competition going on because it's against the rulez.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 06:21 PM
i'm sorry for making a wrong decision, i'll remember not to post in that thread in the future.
when there's a posting competition going on because it's against the rulez.
Correlation does not imply causation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation)

Posting in that thread is allowed to a point where it is not being obviously done to boost post count, if the thread is being overly posted in to the point where it give people an unfair advantage and is degrading the overall quality of discussion substantially.

bolded the important words.

Chris
04-04-2012, 06:28 PM
Far too much to quote here, but Chippie has pretty much hit the nail on the head. The listening to your thread is closed because it has been abused by people who are in the posting competition. We would never allow you to post in them at an excessive rate like this anyway and we're certainly not going to allow it during a posting competition.

j0rd
04-04-2012, 09:14 PM
Songs typically last 3-4 minutes, no-one posted within then?
Also, I tend to listen to music constantly while on the computer, I feel somewhat lonely if i'm not listening to music while on the computer.

Once again a posting competition is ruined.

beth
04-04-2012, 09:33 PM
Songs typically last 3-4 minutes, no-one posted within then?
Also, I tend to listen to music constantly while on the computer, I feel somewhat lonely if i'm not listening to music while on the computer.

Once again a posting competition is ruined.

what it's ruined because you can't post in one thread?

Amberr
04-04-2012, 09:36 PM
I don't understand why people are being so negative about it? It's nice to see the forum so active for once, people moan if it's not active, people moan if it's too active. You can never win.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 09:36 PM
Songs typically last 3-4 minutes, no-one posted within then?
That's because you need someone to make another post first.


Also, I tend to listen to music constantly while on the computer, I feel somewhat lonely if i'm not listening to music while on the computer.
No ones forcing you to post every song you listen to.


Once again a posting competition is ruined.
"I can't make zero-effort posts to get some free VIP.. THEREFORE the competition is rubbish" sound logic going on there.


I don't understand why people are being so negative about it? It's nice to see the forum so active for once, people moan if it's not active, people moan if it's too active. You can never win.
I could flood the forum with zero-effort posts if I really wanted too, in fact a couple of years back I managed to make 100 posts within an hour. But to believe that it benefits the forum to do this is madness, it just means an onlooker will see the forum and think it to be garbage.

j0rd
04-04-2012, 09:36 PM
what it's ruined because you can't post in one thread?
mods disqualifying people/closing threads because they are essentially being posted in too much..

beth
04-04-2012, 09:39 PM
mods disqualifying people/closing threads because they are essentially being posted in too much..

i don't think anyone has been disqual yet and if they have it's probably for legit reasons. y'know, i don't understand the way people are going about posting. look at this right:

http://i.imgur.com/YOfmG.png

i am the top poster for the last week and the last month, but i don't spam everywhere. i don't make multiple useless posts. it's not impossible to get postcount whilst making constructive posts, there's no need for everyone to go so crazy.

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 09:40 PM
mods disqualifying people/closing threads because they are essentially being posted in too much..
Correlation does not imply causation.

It wasn't closed because it was being posted in too much, that's just a symptom of the thread being abused to deliberately boost post count.

j0rd
04-04-2012, 09:42 PM
i am the top poster for the last week and the last month, but i don't spam everywhere. i don't make multiple useless posts. it's not impossible to get postcount whilst making constructive posts, there's no need for everyone to go so crazy.

Most people don't. Everyone's going crazy because its a competition, staff should really expect it, its happened tons of times before..

buttons
04-04-2012, 09:45 PM
i don't think anyone has been disqual yet and if they have it's probably for legit reasons. y'know, i don't understand the way people are going about posting. look at this right:

http://i.imgur.com/YOfmG.png

i am the top poster for the last week and the last month, but i don't spam everywhere. i don't make multiple useless posts. it's not impossible to get postcount whilst making constructive posts, there's no need for everyone to go so crazy.
yep. look at the difference between those in the last 7-28 days compared to the last day lmao. top poster for one day = 226 posts. top poster for 7 days: 437. only 211 posts less?? its usually the same old people who post the most weekly/monthly and they don't get a prize... they get told off for pointless posting whereas these people are going to get rewarded for it. lol

j0rd
04-04-2012, 09:46 PM
Correlation does not imply causation.

It wasn't closed because it was being posted in too much, that's just a symptom of the thread being abused to deliberately boost post count.

It's basically abused day-to-day, including when there's no posting competitions on. Threads like- what did you last watch, what your listening too etc. are generally useless threads, no-body really takes notice of others posts, its just to increase your own post count.

beth
04-04-2012, 09:54 PM
yep. look at the difference between those in the last 7-28 days compared to the last day lmao. top poster for one day = 226 posts. top poster for 7 days: 437. only 211 posts less?? its usually the same old people who post the most weekly/monthly and they don't get a prize... they get told off for pointless posting whereas these people are going to get rewarded for it. lol

gurrrl you are so right. i feel i need a gif to agree with you.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ymjwYFj91r2bmtqo1_500.jpg

that'll do.

no but really this post conveys my feelings perfectly.

Stephen
04-04-2012, 09:59 PM
DOWN WITH THE FORUM

REBEL REBEL

TAKE NO PRISONERS
KILL THEM ALL

Edited by Chris (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts!

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 10:00 PM
It's basically abused day-to-day, including when there's no posting competitions on. Threads like- what did you last watch, what your listening too etc. are generally useless threads, no-body really takes notice of others posts, its just to increase your own post count.

On a day to day basis there is OCCASIONALLY discussion involved, in most of the other "post your" threads there's normally active discussion going on in half the posts. TODAY there was no discussion, I think I saw one "oh I was just listening to that" and that was it. last watched has been deteriorating recently however it's bearable because you can't watch something new every five minutes.

PWYLT has been barely tolerated for years due to historic (terrible reason to begin with) reasons and because a lot of people genuinely enjoy posting in that thread and discussing music - not fair to close the thread because a couple of people abuse it, the spamming that went on today was over the edge and completely tipped the balance of people abusing and people not abusing.

Kasabian
04-04-2012, 10:03 PM
TL;DR

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/648/bhastrika5406626.jpg

The posting competition ends in 2 days, surely you can go 2 days without moaning about it?

j0rd
04-04-2012, 10:04 PM
PWYLT has been barely tolerated for years due to historic (terrible reason to begin with) reasons and because a lot of people genuinely enjoy posting in that thread and discussing music - not fair to close the thread because a couple of people abuse it, the spamming that went on today was over the edge and completely tipped the balance of people abusing and people not abusing.

I cant grasp the concept of people not knowing it was going to be abused during a posting competition, I 100% expected it, and i'm pretty sure quite a lot of other people did too.
If it is abused in typical normal days, it was pretty obvious that it was going to be abused during a posting competition, if you didn't see it coming you must either be delusional or completely ******ed.

Catchy
04-04-2012, 10:05 PM
To be honest, I haven't really looked at the forum much today. The competition really put me off, sure I joined the group but have been posting just as I usually would.

Every time I've looked at it today I've just seen pointless threads as bethany; said, it is possible to get post count without making posts/threads which are complete garbage. I try to go into as much depth as possible when replying to a thread simply because I don't like just posting for the sake of it.

And why the hell aren't beths tags working? That's twice its happend to me today! rage!!!11

Chippiewill
04-04-2012, 10:15 PM
The posting competition ends in 2 days, surely you can go 2 days without moaning about it?
Hypothetically if I did not complain then next time round the competition would run the same - if you do not complain then you cannot later expect improvement.

But not only that I'm also now having to explain the same points I explained on the previous page because someone decided not to read them.


I cant grasp the concept of people not knowing it was going to be abused during a posting competition, I 100% expected it, and i'm pretty sure quite a lot of other people did too.
If it is abused in typical normal days, it was pretty obvious that it was going to be abused during a posting competition, if you didn't see it coming you must either be delusional or completely ******ed.
I fully expected it to be abused, and I suspect scott knew so too, what nobody was certain about was how far it would escalate and there's no point in running the competition if it's going to disrupt the regular users (Which it has - but that's another issue entirely) so if they have to pre-emptively lock threads then that's not fair on them. And credit where it's due they took the correct strategy in seeing what would come of PWYLT.

buttons
04-04-2012, 10:21 PM
To be honest, I haven't really looked at the forum much today. The competition really put me off, sure I joined the group but have been posting just as I usually would.

Every time I've looked at it today I've just seen pointless threads as @bethany (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=18342); said, it is possible to get post count without making posts/threads which are complete garbage. I try to go into as much depth as possible when replying to a thread simply because I don't like just posting for the sake of it.

And why the hell aren't beths tags working? That's twice its happend to me today! rage!!!11
i look through new posts then go to spam/discuss anything/health life etc before checking anything else. i looked through those that i missed in the past 2 days then saw this thread about a posting challenge and i was put off by it too because that'd mean i'd have to catch up on all the pointless posting already done..

i know what you mean by going into depth as much as possible when replying to a thread instead of posting for the sake of it or to get post count up. usually i will only post in a thread if it interests me and will only post once otherwise i'll get the dreaded "please don't pointless post". i have over 1,000 of my posts from the "what are you listening to?" threads where i posted in the past because i was bored and there was no activity, i would more than happily take all of those posts off my current post count.

however, i've forced myself to post in more threads since this competition started because i like competition and rewards. i've ended up pointlessly posting even though i'm active and usually within the top posters every day/week/month anyway, if there are so much people higher than me and I'M posting more than usual then it goes to show how pointless these posts have been.

what about the people who post to contribute to the forum or make valid arguments/points? nothing. reputation means nothing anymore as no-one uses it or it's used for giving to friends... it's like you only get rewards if you're staff or new :S what was the purpose of this competition? activity? rewarding people?

shiver
05-04-2012, 03:13 PM
we are being trolled
chippiewill is using this thread to make many posts n get ALL THE PRIZES

Cerys
05-04-2012, 03:40 PM
Yeah, it's a good idea, but some people are spamming/making pointless threads, as said above.

I love the way we all get a chance to win, though! Hopefully more competitions like this in the future.

Samantha
05-04-2012, 03:43 PM
One idea was that they did a posting competition but didn't tell you when like thishabbo did I thought that would have.been better but i like the different prizea

:odey:
05-04-2012, 04:10 PM
One idea was that they did a posting competition but didn't tell you when like thishabbo did I thought that would have.been better but i like the different prizea

That probably wouldn't have a very good effect at all though,

Knowing about has definitely introduced some more people to post, and hopefully they'll continue to after they've won themselves some vip? :)

Chris
05-04-2012, 05:38 PM
All threads which contain small 1-2 worded answers have been closed, including the stuck threads in the music and tv forums. Post count may be lost from these threads depending on what management decide to do with them.

dbgtz
05-04-2012, 05:42 PM
Graphics needs better moderation.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742936&p=7480707#post7480707
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742936&p=7480730#post7480730
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=742936&p=7484171#post7484171
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743279&p=7485589#post7485589
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743279&p=7485598#post7485598
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743279&p=7485606#post7485606
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743279&p=7485608#post7485608
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743279&p=7485670#post7485670
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743279&p=7485679#post7485679
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743279&p=7485877#post7485877
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743279&p=7485887#post7485887
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743279&p=7485904#post7485904
and there's so much more in those 2 threads alone. I don't imagine they're all participating and I appreciate some posts may be missed, but for a forum with 3 listed moderators that's poor.

Chris
05-04-2012, 05:46 PM
dbgtz; Please report the posts using the report function. We are not super human and cannot moderate every single post on the forum.

Neversoft
05-04-2012, 06:09 PM
Why have you closed a ton of threads, especially what are you listening to, what was the last thing you watched, and things you want to say to someone but can't? I thought this was a posting challenge.

dbgtz
05-04-2012, 06:10 PM
dbgtz; Please report the posts using the report function. We are not super human and cannot moderate every single post on the forum.

The point was that no thread was being moderated. If I had to report every bloody post I might aswell do the full job myself.

Cerys
05-04-2012, 06:15 PM
Tbh it's a bit pointless closing the threads....

You want people to post and join in with the competition? Well stop blooming closing the threads people who are doing the competition and are not doing it use!
The TV, Music and stuff you wanna say to someone but can't threads are some of the most popular threads on Habbox. Closing them is a a bit silly..

Chris
05-04-2012, 06:16 PM
Why have you closed a ton of threads, especially what are you listening to, what was the last thing you watched, and things you want to say to someone but can't? I thought this was a posting challenge.

We think that they have been used to abuse post count so we have closed them for now. We are currently discussing how they should be used. :)


The point was that no thread was being moderated. If I had to report every bloody post I might aswell do the full job myself.

Not everyone wants to criticise peoples graphic work and I feel that moderating these posts you listed would be overkill, which is something we're trying to change.


Tbh it's a bit pointless closing the threads....

You want people to post and join in with the competition? Well stop blooming closing the threads people who are doing the competition and are not doing it use!
The TV, Music and stuff you wanna say to someone but can't threads are some of the most popular threads on Habbox. Closing them is a a bit silly..

No actually, I don't want people posting for the competition. What I want to see is people posting because they genuinely want to and because they have something to add to a discussion. At the end of the day its about the quality of peoples posts and not the quantity. Take Jasey and Bethie for example, they are always making such good quality posts and thats because they put thought into what they're saying and actually have something to add.

Jordan
05-04-2012, 06:18 PM
Tbh it's a bit pointless closing the threads....

You want people to post and join in with the competition? Well stop blooming closing the threads people who are doing the competition and are not doing it use!
The TV, Music and stuff you wanna say to someone but can't threads are some of the most popular threads on Habbox. Closing them is a a bit silly..

If you read recent feedback threads there has been moaning because of the amount of abuse these threads are having due to the posting competition. It's perfectly fine except I feel sorry for people like Neversoft; who I don't think was involved with this posting competition but liked to post in there daily. That is the only problem.

dbgtz
05-04-2012, 06:22 PM
Not everyone wants to criticise peoples graphic work and I feel that moderating these posts you listed would be overkill, which is something we're trying to change.

So the logic of whoever runs this forum is rather than tackling the problem, just get rid of the rule? Hey I know how to cut down obesity rates, make it so that you have to be 70st to be classed as obese. That's absolutely ******ed and this is the logic people have complained about in this entire thread and the logic which will make this forum just like every other ****** Habbo fansite.

Chris
05-04-2012, 06:23 PM
So the logic of whoever runs this forum is rather than tackling the problem, just get rid of the rule? Hey I know how to cut down obesity rates, make it so that you have to be 70st to be classed as obese. That's absolutely ******ed and this is the logic people have complained about in this entire thread and the logic which will make this forum just like every other ****** Habbo fansite.

We can't have it both ways. Some people want the rules relaxed and others don't. Not everyone is going to be happy no matter what we do.

dbgtz
05-04-2012, 06:32 PM
We can't have it both ways. Some people want the rules relaxed and others don't. Not everyone is going to be happy no matter what we do.

Can I see where users have complained about the rules in the graphics department? I could name quite a few who object to awful, pointless posting in it.

beth
05-04-2012, 06:33 PM
see the thing i don't understand is, like i said before there are people who post constructively and use the what are you blahblah responsibly. can you not moderate those that aren't without shutting everything? there were times last night i wanted to psot what i was listening to and there was nothing there sob :( ive been using that thread for a good 5 years, we're friends.

Neversoft
05-04-2012, 06:36 PM
We think that they have been used to abuse post count so we have closed them for now. We are currently discussing how they should be used. :)

But why can't you just deal with the users involved who are going overboard, instead of closing the topics? You're allowing the minority to ruin it for the majority.


If you read recent feedback threads there has been moaning because of the amount of abuse these threads are having due to the posting competition. It's perfectly fine except I feel sorry for people like Neversoft; who I don't think was involved with this posting competition but liked to post in there daily. That is the only problem.

Even if they are being abused, I don't think it should be dealt with so harshly. At the end of the day they're there to be posted in. And yeah, I'm not involved in this posting thing, so it is a bit of a shame me and everyone else not involved have to suffer through the consequences of others, especially when there are other ways to tackle the problem.

Chris
05-04-2012, 06:36 PM
Can I see where users have complained about the rules in the graphics department? I could name quite a few who object to awful, pointless posting in it.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=735788&p=7412999#post7412999


see the thing i don't understand is, like i said before there are people who post constructively and use the what are you blahblah responsibly. can you not moderate those that aren't without shutting everything? there were times last night i wanted to psot what i was listening to and there was nothing there sob :( ive been using that thread for a good 5 years, we're friends.


But why can't you just deal with the users involved who are going overboard, instead of closing the topics? You're allowing the minority to ruin it for the majority.

We know that not everyone abuses the threads and thats why we're discussing it. It will come back though, soon.

Chippiewill
05-04-2012, 07:14 PM
But why can't you just deal with the users involved who are going overboard, instead of closing the topics? You're allowing the minority to ruin it for the majority.
You could put up a replacement thread in spam..

dbgtz
05-04-2012, 07:19 PM
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=735788&p=7412999#post7412999

Most of the people in that post are also complaining about the pointless posts which contribute nothing. I can see where you're coming from and I can see your argument but your link to a staff member who I don't even think posts in the section isn't really as strong as those who actively use it. It's like asking a teenager about the quality of elderly homes. Sure you can have an opinion, but unless you're actually there you won't really know.

Also this isn't as strong as a point, but the fact that people post these "omg datz orsum" types of comments means that people, like me, who actually post constructive criticism then go on to get flamed hard because I'm basically not saying what they have made is gods gift and it is bloody frustrating.

Also I would like to add that I hate these posting competitions.

FlyingJesus
06-04-2012, 03:37 PM
Personally they're not high on my list of loves as they're somewhat limited in terms of content and so do not actually promote active discussion at all, but what do you think?

Discuss

Thread merged by Chris (Forum Super Moderator): From "Discuss Anything", as it is better suited in here!

Samantha
06-04-2012, 03:40 PM
Yeah I think they're the highlight of discussion within the forum

:odey:
06-04-2012, 03:40 PM
I don't have a problem with them.

I think most are fine, and some of them actually do promote discussion, other people are too quick to judge if they're 'pointless threads' or not...

Chippiewill
06-04-2012, 03:41 PM
The threads are rubbish.

This posting competition is a joke, half the posts I've seen since have either been "That looks nice" or "I think this" no discussion.

AlexJRiley
06-04-2012, 03:47 PM
like the ones that stimulate conversation, its a good way to meet new people and improve your insight and opinion on things. Where things like "Do you like cheese" with all the posts "yes" or "no" they should just be deleted.

:odey:
06-04-2012, 03:49 PM
like the ones that stimulate conversation, its a good way to meet new people and improve your insight and opinion on things. Where things like "Do you like cheese" with all the posts "yes" or "no" they should just be deleted.

I don't agree that they should be deleted though, because they wouldn't be if there wasn't a posting competition going on...

AlexJRiley
06-04-2012, 03:50 PM
I don't agree that they should be deleted though, because they wouldn't be if there wasn't a posting competition going on...

I wasnt aware there was :L I was just talking in general theres just no need for them

Seikou
06-04-2012, 03:50 PM
i like them haha, don't see anything wrong with them

Jordy
06-04-2012, 03:56 PM
Oh there's a posting competition? That would explain a lot.

A particular favourite of mine was "Has someone ever thrown something at you?" and the "How are you feeling?" thread. The forum is full of the least thought provoking threads possible and quite frankly I'd be amazed if anyone was actually interested in what people have to say in these threads.

buttons
06-04-2012, 03:56 PM
i like them haha, don't see anything wrong with them
then why did no-one make them before the posting competition dotdotdot

oh Jordy; the how are you feeling thread was made before the competition lol maybe people do enjoy reading these threads, can't all be as indepth and intellectual as us

Jordy
06-04-2012, 04:03 PM
oh @Jordy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=35270); the how are you feeling thread was made before the competition lol maybe people do enjoy reading these threads, can't all be as indepth and intellectual as usThat makes it worse lol. Dear god why has that thread not been locked? i couldn't give a **** how people are feeling, if I really cared I'd send them a PM but lets face it, I don't care how a bunch of people I don't know feel.

cWhilst the rest of the forum seem to enjoy bashing the management atm, I was of the opinion the forum was at it's best for years with a real concerted effort to listen to members and innovative ideas but I'm seeing quite senior moderators frequently and unnecessarily move threads from the correct section to the wrong section. And now there's a spate of useless threads they simply don't seem to be doing anything about

Jordan
06-04-2012, 04:09 PM
That makes it worse lol. Dear god why has that thread not been locked? i couldn't give a **** how people are feeling, if I really cared I'd send them a PM but lets face it, I don't care how a bunch of people I don't know feel.

cWhilst the rest of the forum seem to enjoy bashing the management atm, I was of the opinion the forum was at it's best for years with a real concerted effort to listen to members and innovative ideas but I'm seeing quite senior moderators frequently and unnecessarily move threads from the correct section to the wrong section. And now there's a spate of useless threads they simply don't seem to be doing anything about

This is like one of the most interesting threads lately, you say we are moving threads to the wrong section? Which ones? And the Forum Department are aware of these stupid threads being made lately and we are still talking about a solution for them, just waiting for a final answer from Scott and Brandon when they come online soon.

FlyingJesus
06-04-2012, 04:10 PM
I don't agree that they should be deleted though, because they wouldn't be if there wasn't a posting competition going on...

You've got it the wrong way around - these threads WOULD be moved/deleted if the posting comp wasn't happening because for the most part they generate absolutely no discussion. Ironically I've seen more discussion in the 2 pages of this satirical thread than in pretty much the entirety of the other question threads put together

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 04:15 PM
Personally they're not high on my list of loves as they're somewhat limited in terms of content and so do not actually promote active discussion at all, but what do you think?

Discuss

Define 'pointless question threads'. I don't really like those threads but I won't say they shouldn't be made at all. And I don't understand why you're saying it doesn't promote active discussion. It does promote discussion ; be it active or not, that I can't guarantee as some MODs/SMODs here edit posts made for discussion as pointless. For example, threads like 'do you like cheese' can promote discussion because we can always talk about why/how/when we like cheese, what cheese we like etc. It depends on how the user posts it and how some MODs/SMODs edit certain posts imho.


I'm seeing quite senior moderators frequently and unnecessarily move threads from the correct section to the wrong section.

This I have to agree as one thread of mine which is obviously about life was moved to discuss anything. However, it won't really affect anything. There'll still be posts. Just a waste of time imo


i think they are the best threads xo

Best threads as you don't have to think much to answer, not to discuss.

FlyingJesus
06-04-2012, 04:18 PM
I don't understand why you're saying it doesn't promote active discussion. It does promote discussion ; be it active or not

Singular posts answering the thread question is not a discussion, what we're doing now is a discussion

xxMATTGxx
06-04-2012, 04:19 PM
Make a forum for them with post count disabled and move all the threads into there.

beth
06-04-2012, 04:19 PM
when you try and make discussion with someone in a thread and then fail to make a direct reference to the initial post yr done for pointless posting, but, HAVE YOU READ A BOOK OLDER THAN YOU (which is a ******* stupid thread) is fine.

buttons
06-04-2012, 04:20 PM
i think people should be stopped from posting in welcome thread too cause they're bumping old ones. pretending to care about the community for posts -rep

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 04:24 PM
Singular posts answering the thread question is not a discussion, what we're doing now is a discussion

But when it's supposed to be discussed, some MODs/SMODs edit it as pointless. That is mainly why people won't discuss about it because they are afraid of getting edited. So, it becomes a QnA. For instance, one of my posts in 'how to feel more awake blah' thread can be discussed but somebody str8 away call it pointless.

---------- Post added 07-04-2012 at 12:25 AM ----------


when you try and make discussion with someone in a thread and then fail to make a direct reference to the initial post yr done for pointless posting, but, HAVE YOU READ A BOOK OLDER THAN YOU (which is a ******* stupid thread) is fine.

and can you please give me a reason for that?

FlyingJesus
06-04-2012, 04:29 PM
Liking Matt's idea of moving all such threads into somewhere with no post count, let's do this


But when it's supposed to be discussed, some MODs/SMODs edit it as pointless. That is mainly why people won't discuss about it because they are afraid of getting edited. So, it becomes a QnA. For instance, one of my posts in 'how to feel more awake blah' thread can be discussed but somebody str8 away call it pointless.

That's moderation being completely stupid. A further stupid mod decision was merging my thread into this one, as it was actually separate and one of the only genuine discussion threads to have been created this week...

Also aren't we meant to get told when our threads get moved, even if there's no reason for it?

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 04:33 PM
That's moderation being completely stupid. A further stupid mod decision was merging my thread into this one, as it was actually separate and one of the only genuine discussion threads to have been created this week...

Liking Matt's idea of moving all such threads into somewhere with no post count, let's do this

No. I don't agree with that! Even threads like mine are so called not promoting discussion. Then, seriously what threads promote discussion when the users don't want to discuss it?! I was discussing about it and they are the ones not replying to me and yet, my thread is closed for not promoting discussion! It's not fair! Should all the threads be moved into that somewhere?

Chris
06-04-2012, 04:34 PM
Providing Scott & Brandon agree, the plan is to create a new forum in the general section specifically for these threads. This would work a lot like the gaming section but would maintain normal forum rules. All current stuck & locked threads like the 'what are you listening to' threads would be unstuck and left in their respective forums, and new ones would be created in the new forum with post count disabled.

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 04:39 PM
Providing Scott & Brandon agree, the plan is to create a new forum in the general section specifically for these threads. This would work a lot like the gaming section but would maintain normal forum rules. All current stuck & locked threads like the 'what are you listening to' threads would be unstuck and left in their respective forums, and new ones would be created in the new forum with post count disabled.

Look at the number of threads created before the posting competition started! and yet, you want to create this section with post count disabled?!

FlyingJesus
06-04-2012, 04:41 PM
No. I don't agree with that! Even threads like mine are so called not promoting discussion. Then, seriously what threads promote discussion when the users don't want to discuss it?! I was discussing about it and they are the ones not replying to me and yet, my thread is closed for not promoting discussion! It's not fair! Should all the threads be moved into that somewhere?

Do you mean your thread about books? Because that it literally a yes/no thread, and any discussion would have to be generated from people essentially going off topic to add more rather than being stimulated by the thread itself. The difference is simply between a thread asking an open or closed question (http://changingminds.org/techniques/questioning/open_closed_questions.htm)


Providing Scott & Brandon agree, the plan is to create a new forum in the general section specifically for these threads. This would work a lot like the gaming section but would maintain normal forum rules. All current stuck & locked threads like the 'what are you listening to' threads would be unstuck and left in their respective forums, and new ones would be created in the new forum with post count disabled.

This is a good idea so long as it's moderated properly, not moving threads that don't need moving as currently seems to happen

Chris
06-04-2012, 04:42 PM
Look at the number of threads created before the posting competition started! and yet, you want to create this section with post count disabled?!

Yeah, in my eyes thats the only solution thats going to please the majority of members.


This is a good idea so long as it's moderated properly, not moving threads that don't need moving as currently seems to happen

I'm sure there would be some guidelines created for moderators if they struggle to decide where a thread belongs, but I don't think it would be much of an issue. :)

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 04:47 PM
Do you mean your thread about books? Because that it literally a yes/no thread, and any discussion would have to be generated from people essentially going off topic to add more rather than being stimulated by the thread itself. The difference is simply between a thread asking an open or closed question (http://changingminds.org/techniques/questioning/open_closed_questions.htm)

It is stimulated by the thread itself. I posted yes and I read blah blah books and they can do the same thing, ask questions about them etc. Isn't that a discussion?


an act or instance of discussing (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/discuss); consideration or examination by argument, comment, etc., especially to explore solutions; informal debate

And no it's not off topic because in the end, we're still talking about books which are older than us and whether we've read it or not.

Jordan
06-04-2012, 04:50 PM
It is stimulated by the thread itself. I posted yes and I read blah blah books and they can do the same thing, ask questions about them etc. Isn't that a discussion?

Yes you could and it would still be breaking the rules because all you are doing is saying, yes I read this science book.If they asked questions are were serious about it then I'm sure it would be fine, but the majority of the thread was just saying yes or no.




And no it's not off topic because in the end, we're still talking about books which are older than us and whether we've read it or not.

Who said it was off topic? :P

FlyingJesus
06-04-2012, 04:56 PM
It is stimulated by the thread itself. I posted yes and I read blah blah books and they can do the same thing, ask questions about them etc. Isn't that a discussion?

The pieces in colours are two different things - if the thread had been just something like "Books older than you" and your opening post then yes the thread itself would encompass the discussion, but when your thread title is a closed question it only invites closed answers

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 04:56 PM
Yeah, in my eyes thats the only solution thats going to please the majority of members.

TEMPORARILY PLEASE THEM. If I know those threads will be moved to a certain section where post count is disabled, then why not I just post it in spam, right? WASTE OF TIME AND SPACE!


I'm sure there would be some guidelines created for moderators if they struggle to decide where a thread belongs, but I don't think it would be much of an issue. :)

it would as mods come and go. even senior mods cant really follow the guideline and by that, I expect you to know what I mean.


Yes you could and it would still be breaking the rules because all you are doing is saying, yes I read this science book.If they asked questions are were serious about it then I'm sure it would be fine, but the majority of the thread was just saying yes or no.

Then, I suggest you to close some threads in health section too because majority of them are just saying yes or no with some elaboration which isn't promoting discussion anyway


Who said it was off topic? :P

i was proving a point

Grig
06-04-2012, 04:58 PM
To be honest many discuss anything threads can be replied to in one word answers. Like with what forum I browse the most I can say Feedback, then for fav. cereal I can say Kellogg's Corn Flakes or something.

Jordan
06-04-2012, 04:59 PM
TEMPORARILY PLEASE THEM. If I know those threads will be moved to a certain section where post count is disabled, then why not I just post it in spam, right? WASTE OF TIME AND SPACE!

If we posted them into spam then there wouldn't be any rules for them and they would lose topic, which isn't what we want. So no, it isn't a waste of time and I feel that this new idea will help. I would rather read threads with a discussion going on than reading through threads finding out what peoples favourite cereal was and if they have had something thrown on them.

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 05:00 PM
The pieces in colours are two different things - if the thread had been just something like "Books older than you" and your opening post then yes the thread itself would encompass the discussion, but when your thread title is a closed question it only invites closed answers

They can still discuss about it no matter they've read a book older than them or not...no matter it's a closed question or opened question. the who,what etc. are still there

Chris
06-04-2012, 05:00 PM
TEMPORARILY PLEASE THEM. If I know those threads will be moved to a certain section where post count is disabled, then why not I just post it in spam, right? WASTE OF TIME AND SPACE!

Because if they are put in spam then the point of the thread will be completely lost. With this new forum it means the rules will be normal and the point of the threads will be retained.


it would as mods come and go. even senior mods cant really follow the guideline and by that, I expect you to know what I mean.

I have no idea what you mean.

FlyingJesus
06-04-2012, 05:02 PM
They can still discuss about it no matter they've read a book older than them or not...no matter it's a closed question or opened question. the who,what etc. are still there

Check the replies and let me know how that's working out for you

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 05:05 PM
To be honest many discuss anything threads can be replied to in one word answers. Like with what forum I browse the most I can say Feedback, then for fav. cereal I can say Kellogg's Corn Flakes or something.

but i can ask you 'why do you like kellogg? i don't like it' etc and you can answer it and the discussion goes on.


If we posted them into spam then there wouldn't be any rules for them and they would lose topic, which isn't what we want. So no, it isn't a waste of time and I feel that this new idea will help. I would rather read threads with a discussion going on than reading through threads finding out what peoples favourite cereal was and if they have had something thrown on them.

you are basically just saying 'yes its a good idea because its a good idea'. If I am the one creating the threads, I'll rather create it in spam as the rules are lenient than creating it in a section where I might suffer from getting edited etc.

Grig
06-04-2012, 05:07 PM
but i can ask you 'why do you like kellogg? i don't like it' etc and you can answer it and the discussion goes on.



you are basically just saying 'yes its a good idea because its a good idea'. If I am the one creating the threads, I'll rather create it in spam as the rules are lenient than creating it in a section where I might suffer from getting edited etc.

I can say cause it tastes good.

I can say it tastes good and the discussion finishes there. It's all really subjective to deem what and what is not a good discussion and that is what the mods are trying to do at the moment. Yet, without the posting challenge I doubt such threads would get the amount of scrutiny they have now.

Chris
06-04-2012, 05:08 PM
you are basically just saying 'yes its a good idea because its a good idea'. If I am the one creating the threads, I'll rather create it in spam as the rules are lenient than creating it in a section where I might suffer from getting edited etc.

Thats up to you really. If you want the thread to have no point then you're welcome to make it in spam, however others actually want their threads to have a point which is where the new forum will come in.

FlyingJesus
06-04-2012, 05:10 PM
you are basically just saying 'yes its a good idea because its a good idea'.

That's not what he said at all, he said it's to stop the threads from going off topic - something which you ought to be agreeing with if you're going to keep up the pretence of actually caring why people like certain cereals

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 05:11 PM
Check the replies and let me know how that's working out for you

oh come on fj! that thread was created less than 3 days ago. you cant expect a discussion quickly coming in esp when the number of active members are that many?


I have no idea what you mean.

you moved my 'pillows, bolsters...' thread from health, life and relationships to discuss anything when it is clearly about life? :S

David
06-04-2012, 05:13 PM
oh come on fj! that thread was created less than 3 days ago. you cant expect a discussion quickly coming in esp when the number of active members are that many?



you moved my 'pillows, bolsters...' thread from health, life and relationships to discuss anything when it is clearly about life? :S

what do pillows have to do with life

Chris
06-04-2012, 05:14 PM
oh come on fj! that thread was created less than 3 days ago. you cant expect a discussion quickly coming in esp when the number of active members are that many?



you moved my 'pillows, bolsters...' thread from health, life and relationships to discuss anything when it is clearly about life? :S

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but what on earth does a pillow have to do with your or anyone elses life? It sits on a bed and looks pretty, it doesn't have an effect on your life. :P

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 05:16 PM
what do pillows have to do with life

pillows>sleep>life
pillows>money>life

doesn't have an effect on your life?
try sleeping without a pillow and some people will feel like sleeping without a bed. doesn't that affect your life?

Chris
06-04-2012, 05:18 PM
pillows>sleep>life
pillows>money>life

doesn't have an effect on your life?
try sleeping without a pillow and some people will feel like sleeping without a bed. doesn't that affect your life?

Funny way of looking at it, but a pillow is not going to directly affect your life is it?

Inseriousity.
06-04-2012, 05:19 PM
What's the obsession with discussion lately. Why do threads need to be "worthwhile", who decides what's "worthwhile"? The problem with moderation as a recent thread in here was against was that moderators are choosing what posts are considered constructive, worthwhile, meaningful, generator of discussion. Personally I think this is wrong. Sure, stay on topic or let them develop of their own accord but there is no point saying 'this should be closed, this doesn't generate discussion' because that's making a value judgement. Jordy, for example (sorry yours was one I noticed in the thread), said that he'd just send PMs if he wanted to know how someone was feeling and that's fine but what is wrong with someone posting it? If you think a thread is beneath you, don't post in it. If it doesn't interest you, don't post in it. It's like a TV. I wonder why the hell people would watch some of the crap on there but I don't complain about it, I just don't watch it. Good threads will stay up, rubbish threads will remain hidden on page 23.

Threads don't need to have an IQ of 105 to be worthwhile. For example, I rather like the 'do you want kids' thread. It's a closed question but it's interesting if you're interested in that and if the majority aren't interested in it then it'll slowly die. Despite that, we are a forum that is generally for teenagers so threads like 'do you like books with pictures in or without' or 'books with big writing or little writing' are clearly taking the piss.

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 05:19 PM
Funny way of looking at it, but a pillow is not going to directly affect your life is it?

urgh. can you live without salt in your food? will that affect your life? dont say yes or else i'll give you loads of reasons

David
06-04-2012, 05:24 PM
urgh. can you live without salt in your food? will that affect your life? dont say yes or else i'll give you loads of reasons

yes. indulge me

FlyingJesus
06-04-2012, 05:25 PM
oh come on fj! that thread was created less than 3 days ago. you cant expect a discussion quickly coming in esp when the number of active members are that many?

17 people replied, only 1 of whom other than yourself had more than 1 post (2 posts, for reference). That to me says people are just answering the question and never looking back - hardly a discussion and certainly not to do with a lack of people around


pillows>sleep>life
pillows>money>life

Pens>writing>books>entertainment

brb making threads asking whether someone has a pen in the anime&entertainment section!


What's the obsession with discussion lately. Why do threads need to be "worthwhile", who decides what's "worthwhile"? The problem with moderation as a recent thread in here was against was that moderators are choosing what posts are considered constructive, worthwhile, meaningful, generator of discussion. Personally I think this is wrong. Sure, stay on topic or let them develop of their own accord but there is no point saying 'this should be closed, this doesn't generate discussion' because that's making a value judgement.

It's not a value judgement, there is a very real and very simple difference between people actually discussing something (as per this thread) and just posting an answer and moving on the next without actually responding to anything other than the thread title (as per most recent threads). If no such distinction is made then absolutely everything is relevant and no moderation is ever necessary, which is certainly not how things ought to go

AlexJRiley
06-04-2012, 05:28 PM
I cant stand my chips without salt and vinegar!

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 05:32 PM
17 people replied, only 1 of whom other than yourself had more than 1 post (2 posts, for reference). That to me says people are just answering the question and never looking back - hardly a discussion and certainly not to do with a lack of people around



Pens>writing>books>entertainment

brb making threads asking whether someone has a pen in the anime&entertainment section!



It's not a value judgement, there is a very real and very simple difference between people actually discussing something (as per this thread) and just posting an answer and moving on the next without actually responding to anything other than the thread title (as per most recent threads). If no such distinction is made then absolutely everything is relevant and no moderation is ever necessary, which is certainly not how things ought to go

what? you psychic? you predict they are not gonna post anymore in my thread?

Chippiewill
06-04-2012, 05:33 PM
17 people replied, only 1 of whom other than yourself had more than 1 post (2 posts, for reference). That to me says people are just answering the question and never looking back - hardly a discussion and certainly not to do with a lack of people around
PWYLT has been around for years, never any serious discussion. Clearly that's not an important parameter to management.

Inseriousity.
06-04-2012, 05:37 PM
It is a value judgement. "This thread is better than this thread" because it generates discussion. But what is discussion? By posting once in a thread you are adding to a thread. If someone is interested in it then they'll go back and read through what other people have responded with (with the possibility that you could question someone's response). Everything should be open. It's a big forum, there's enough room for discussion of everything but there needs to be moderation to ensure that its responsible and relevant to the general age group (can't discuss 'what is your favourite sex position in the karma sutra' or threads that are offensive, hurtful, bullying etc).

Grig
06-04-2012, 05:39 PM
urgh. can you live without salt in your food? will that affect your life? dont say yes or else i'll give you loads of reasons

Yes you can. You might not like it a first, but then get used to it, for it's the food that keeps you alive and not the salt.

Think you're starting to dig out pretty extreme examples to back points up here.

FlyingJesus
06-04-2012, 05:45 PM
what? you psychic? you predict they are not gonna post anymore in my thread?

I do make such a prediction, but it's based on the reason and viewing the past rather than any psychic abilities. As you said, the thread was around for 3 days - in that time no discussion took place, and so it's quite right that it was closed for not having any discussion. Potential =/= actuality


PWYLT has been around for years, never any serious discussion. Clearly that's not an important parameter to management.

True, god knows why that wonderful staple of our community [/sarcasm] is still referred to as a thread with a point


But what is discussion?

People actually talking to each other

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 05:51 PM
I do make such a prediction, but it's based on the reason and viewing the past rather than any psychic abilities. As you said, the thread was around for 3 days - in that time no discussion took place, and so it's quite right that it was closed for not having any discussion. Potential =/= actuality

LESS THAN THREE DAYS. Discussion took place but you shouldn't expect them to reply within 24 hours?

Matthew
06-04-2012, 05:53 PM
LESS THAN THREE DAYS. Discussion took place but you shouldn't expect them to reply within 24 hours?

I think that considering that a posting competition is active and so everyone who posted in that thread was probably online for large amounts after they posted, I think you can assume that if a discussion could have started, it would have?

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 05:55 PM
I think that considering that a posting competition is active and so everyone who posted in that thread was probably online for large amounts after they posted, I think you can assume that if a discussion could have started, it would have?

A DISCUSSION STARTED BEFORE JORDAN CLOSED MY THREAD

David
06-04-2012, 05:57 PM
A DISCUSSION STARTED BEFORE JORDAN CLOSED MY THREAD

if a discussion started before it was closed, it wouldnt have been closed due to lack of discussion

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 06:00 PM
if a discussion started before it was closed, it wouldnt have been closed due to lack of discussion

THATS WHAT IM INQUIRING HERE

Matthew
06-04-2012, 06:02 PM
THATS WHAT IM INQUIRING HERE

Did jordan's VM not answer your questions for you..?

and if not.. shouldn't you be pming someone rather than screaming about it in this thread? O_o

I don't think there was any discussion at all anyway

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 06:05 PM
Did jordan's VM not answer your questions for you..?

and if not.. shouldn't you be pming someone rather than screaming about it in this thread? O_o

I don't think there was any discussion at all anyway

what makes you think that i'm screaming?

O_o

Matthew
06-04-2012, 06:06 PM
what makes you think that i'm screaming?

O_o

The excessive use of caps lock?

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 06:09 PM
The excessive use of caps lock?

wow just wow
​bolded, red colour and huge.. what do you think?

David
06-04-2012, 06:10 PM
THATS WHAT IM INQUIRING HERE

actually looks like your doing exactly what Matts; avatar is doing
& I agree with him, you should be pm'ing forum management not puking caps lock and giant text on everyone

Matthew
06-04-2012, 06:11 PM
wow just wow
​bolded, red colour and huge.. what do you think?

I think you're making a fool of yourself

Your thread was closed... Get over it? :p

Chris
06-04-2012, 06:12 PM
All threads that have been closed due to this will be re-opened soon anyway, so what are you complaining about exactly?

GirlNextDoor15
06-04-2012, 06:18 PM
I think you're making a fool of yourself

Your thread was closed... Get over it? :p

I was emphasizing on something.. clearly not like what you said but nice suggestion anyway. your imagination is way better than j.k rowling's. now do me a favor please. write yourself a 'caps lock and giant text online = screaming' book.

Matthew
06-04-2012, 06:19 PM
I was emphasizing on something.. clearly not like what you said but nice suggestion anyway. your imagination is way better than j.k rowling's. now do me a favor. write yourself a 'caps lock and giant text online = screaming' book. k bye
Seriously what is your problem?

Eric
07-04-2012, 12:18 AM
Make a forum for them with post count disabled and move all the threads into there.

I think this should be put into effect.

beth
07-04-2012, 12:24 AM
it's all finished now guys, everyone chill and have a group hug.

Grig
07-04-2012, 07:06 AM
could I just check, but post counts have been disabled in Discuss Anything? Or at least I swear they were last night :P.

xxMATTGxx
07-04-2012, 08:14 AM
could I just check, but post counts have been disabled in Discuss Anything? Or at least I swear they were last night :P.

Nope? Not that I'm aware of and there is only a few people who could of done that! :P

Chris
07-04-2012, 10:28 AM
The 'What are you listening to?' & 'What was the last thing you watched?' have both been re-opened. Some threads that were closed in Discuss Anything have been moved to spam, while others will stay closed until a decision is made by forum management.

GirlNextDoor15
07-04-2012, 10:31 AM
Is post count disabled?

xxMATTGxx
07-04-2012, 10:32 AM
Is post count disabled?

No, where have you got that idea from?

GirlNextDoor15
07-04-2012, 10:34 AM
No, where have you got that idea from?

From someone whom I don't remember. Which thread have been moved to spam?

Chris
07-04-2012, 10:35 AM
Is post count disabled?

No, but its unfair to keep it closed for this long when members genuinely enjoy posting in it regardless of post count. Now that the posting competition has ended, the abuse of the thread will probably stop and won't be an issue anyway.

Just waiting for Scott to sort it out.


From someone whom I don't remember. Which thread have been moved to spam?

If you go in spam you will see them, they're still locked so they're easy to see.

GirlNextDoor15
07-04-2012, 10:37 AM
No, but its unfair to keep it closed for this long when members genuinely enjoy posting in it regardless of post count. Now that the posting competition has ended, the abuse of the thread will probably stop and won't be an issue anyway.

Just waiting for Scott to sort it out.



If you go in spam you will see them, they're still locked so they're easy to see.

Right just a few..

Chris
07-04-2012, 10:38 AM
Right just a few..

Well there was no need for them to be in discuss anything.

Kasabian
07-04-2012, 11:32 AM
Can't be arsed to make a new thread - Does post count increase in the Rare Values Reports forum? Because 9 times out of 10, you see 4/5 rare values reporters post in there and literally just say thanks.

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