Resignations in staff forums

[Catchy]

Hello just something Mark; and a few others have mentioned before so I thought I'd bring up. Why do staff post their resignations in the staff forums? When they have their own dep forums? I understand that people may want to say goodbye and good luck and what not but surely that's what the thank you forum section is for?

[xxMATTGxx]

Hello just something Mark; and a few others have mentioned before so I thought I'd bring up. Why do staff post their resignations in the staff forums? When they have their own dep forums? I understand that people may want to say goodbye and good luck and what not but surely that's what the thank you forum section is for?

Why do they? Ask them and see what they reply back with. More and more people seem to do it, there is currently no rule over the matter and I'm not sure where they get the idea from :P

[David]

what's the harm in it? nothing.

*+*waits for someone to mention spam threads*+*

[Catchy]

what's the harm in it? nothing.

*+*waits for someone to mention spam threads*+*

What's the real harm in anything on hxf, nothing lol. I'm just posting feedback cause that's all I tend to see in staff forums peoples resignations I just don't see the point of posting it there when they have their own dep forums to do so?

[David]

maybe they're saying bye to people in other departments? I don't see any problem in it so it's not an issue imo :P

[Catchy]

nah it's not an issue as such i just don't understand it lol most ppl don't even read it and just put bye lol

[Grig]

There's no harm in it.

Some staff do it because they may be in say 3 departments, so for them it is just sometimes easier that way. Also sometimes when people are staff they bond with people in other departments to, so might want them to see it.

[Chippiewill]

It's ok until they make a thread in the leaving forum as well, may as well just keep everything in the same place. Actually I have a MASSIVE problem with any instance where threads are being made in the staff forums as well as in the non-staff forums. For example the staff version of the SOTM announcement can be replied to unlike the non-staff version, if it were locked at the same time then it would be easier to focus discussion in the thank-you forum thread. There's no reason for staff members to need to be able to hide their posts on the matter in a non-public forum.

[Samantha]

Well if I was going to leave all my staff roles I would consider that previously I have been in Content, Help Desk, Graphics and Events so maybe I want to say bye to them too, I don't see a problem with that at all imo. I think the only problem arises when staff are posting away in the staff only forum when each department has their own thread for it. Even though I post away in the management forum I still can be bothered to post in all my other departments too so why can't they.

I think if the staff thread resignation and the goodbye thread is different then I'm fine with it, if it's exactly the same then no.

[Gina]

i don't really mind it, doesnt fuss me tbh, i just don't see why they do it in there and not their own staff forums :P

[Mathew]

what's the harm in it? nothing.

*+*waits for someone to mention spam threads*+*
I'll do the honours.

What's the harm in staff spam threads? nothing.


There's no harm in it.

Some staff do it because they may be in say 3 departments, so for them it is just sometimes easier that way. Also sometimes when people are staff they bond with people in other departments to, so might want them to see it.
lol, staff bonding occurred in staff spam threads so you can't use that (apparently) "weak" excuse for everything! :P

Why not let the whole forum know you're resigning and have them post in the public sections? Why should staff get all the fun in learning about these resignations before anyone else? If this thoughtless change is going to stick around, let's have some consistency with it. It seems people are throwing up the "hiding in the staff forums" argument only when it suits them. :)

[Grig]

I'll do the honours.

What's the harm in staff spam threads? nothing.


lol, staff bonding occurred in staff spam threads so you can't use that (apparently) "weak" excuse for everything! :P

Why not let the whole forum know you're resigning and have them post in the public sections? Why should staff get all the fun in learning about these resignations before anyone else? If this thoughtless change is going to stick around, let's have some consistency with it. It seems people are throwing up the "hiding in the staff forums" argument only when it suits them. :)

If you think staff bonding only occurred in spam threads. Then you are very wrong sir. If you think spam threads are the only way to bond. Then you are very wrong sir.

Also, that is a baseless argument, seeing as you could say why not let the whole forum know how everyone else did in their weekly reviews etc. Spam threads were closed due to trying to promote staff to integrate more with users and not have some complex that they are better in a way with their own little threads.

[Mathew]

If you think staff bonding only occurred in spam threads. Then you are very wrong sir. If you think spam threads are the only way to bond. Then you are very wrong sir.

Also, that is a baseless argument, seeing as you could say why not let the whole forum know how everyone else did in their weekly reviews etc. Spam threads were closed due to trying to promote staff to integrate more with users and not have some complex that they are better in a way with their own little threads.

I'm not saying bonding only occurred in spam threads, but it's just one way in which you can strengthen a team - and that's one thing that we should be encouraged to do. Events have monthly reports and if anyone wants to publish them for the community, then by all means they're welcome to. The point is that it's of no interest to the wider community because it concerns the role that they play. What I'm arguing is that spam threads serve a purpose in strengthening the team - obviously it serves no direct purpose per se, but it does help to increase morale indirectly. It's a fansite for an online game, not a business. Don't try to treat it like one.

The whole "staff think they're better than everyone else" argument is extremely weak too as there's clearly no evidence to support it. If that's the case then they're obviously a minority and shouldn't be staff anyway! :P

[beth]

the reason i personally did mine in the staff forum was because i was management and i was in multiple departments and i had a generally good rapport with the majority of staff.

i think some newer staff just see examples and copy and others just don't know how to resign.

[Grig]

I'm not saying bonding only occurred in spam threads, but it's just one way in which you can strengthen a team - and that's one thing that we should be encouraged to do. Events have monthly reports and if anyone wants to publish them for the community, then by all means they're welcome to. The point is that it's of no interest to the wider community because it concerns the role that they play. What I'm arguing is that spam threads serve a purpose in strengthening the team - obviously it serves no direct purpose per se, but it does help to increase morale indirectly. It's a fansite for an online game, not a business. Don't try to treat it like one.

The whole "staff think they're better than everyone else" argument is extremely weak too as there's clearly no evidence to support it. If that's the case then they're obviously a minority and shouldn't be staff anyway! :P

I never had strong views of spam threads and they did help bond smaller departments like news. Not much so for bigger ones like radio. I'm all for any means of bonding, including staff spam. I'd actually evaluate the impact after a month and see the results.

As for your argument for the community not having a interest in resignation threads. That is probably not entirely true as they may actually care about it, seeing as the staff member may have a direct impact on the running of the community, or the DJ show that they may enjoy listening to etc.

As for publishing monthly reports, I wouldn't do that. That's more confidential staff matters and should be left for the staff. We aren't a business, no. But we shouldn't require such things to be published to the public either. Also, some staff may feel uneasy about it, especially those that may not have had a good week/month etc.

[Mathew]

I never had strong views of spam threads and they did help bond smaller departments like news. Not much so for bigger ones like radio. I'm all for any means of bonding, including staff spam. I'd actually evaluate the impact after a month and see the results.

As for your argument for the community not having a interest in resignation threads. That is probably not entirely true as they may actually be care about it, seeing as the staff member may have a direct impact on the running of the community, or the DJ show that they may enjoy listening to etc.

As for publishing monthly reports, I wouldn't do that. That's more confidential staff matters and should be left for the staff. We aren't a business, no. But we aren't we shouldn't require such things to be published to the public either. Also, some staff may feel uneasy about it, especially those that may not have had a good week/month etc.
I can't remember how spam worked out when I was in News, but it was quite nice when I joined Content a couple of months ago because there wasn't really any other time I'd speak to other people in the department. You're thrown in at the deep end and expected to work with the other individuals without having much insight into their backgrounds. I was all for a trial period with staff spam to see what would happen, although the posting competition occurred quite soon after they were closed so it probably won't be all that accurate anyway.

Indeed, it annoys me as much as anyone else when resignation threads are posted in the Habbox Staff only section. Share it with the forum: it doesn't serve any purpose being "hidden away". Staff Reports concern departmental issues and should be left in staff sections. We're at a point where the whole process is getting far too finicky and nothing should take this much discussion!

[Grig]

I can't remember how spam worked out when I was in News, but it was quite nice when I joined Content a couple of months ago because there wasn't really any other time I'd speak to other people in the department. You're thrown in at the deep end and expected to work with the other individuals without having much insight into their backgrounds. I was all for a trial period with staff spam to see what would happen, although the posting competition occurred quite soon after they were closed so it probably won't be all that accurate anyway.

Indeed, it annoys me as much as anyone else when resignation threads are posted in the Habbox Staff only section. Share it with the forum: it doesn't serve any purpose being "hidden away". Staff Reports concern departmental issues and should be left in staff sections. We're at a point where the whole process is getting far too finicky and nothing should take this much discussion!

Well nothing happens without a 10 page debate anymore :P!

[Alex3213]

the reason i personally did mine in the staff forum was because i was management and i was in multiple departments and i had a generally good rapport with the majority of staff.

i think some newer staff just see examples and copy and others just don't know how to resign.

I'm in agreement with this. I posted my resignation thread in the Competitions Staff only forum because I was in management and therefore there were gonna be some changes the following month.

I actually don't know how in depth in the 'welcome to the staff forums' thread or whatever it is, resigning is actually mentioned, if that thread even exists that is. If it isn't then of the departments I've been in, very few mention anything about resigning and just expect them to be able to do it. Unfortunately we're not psychics! :P

However on the flip side I don't have a problem with staff resignation threads but I just think it's becoming a bit "force-of-habit" really.

(oh goodness, half of these sentences have been constructed really badly)

[Richie]

I reckon no1 should post their resignations because i don't care, when they leave they get a thread anyway saying thanks nd goodluck so no really point in posting resignations just pm ur manager.