General Feedback

[The Don]

I’ve noticed, as well as many others, that over the past couple of weeks, there have been many resignations. We currently only have one super moderator (Jordan) and five normal moderators. Surely Habbox needs more than just one super moderator, isn’t it a bit much for Jordan to handle on his own? And what happens if he resigns? There should be at least two, which will mean the ordinary moderator numbers will drop as well. Why haven’t replacements for the mods who left been found? Also, what’s happening with Dave, does he only come back in times of crisis? If so, who can we rely on to implement smaller/aesthetic changes? Does this mean we can’t implement any new feedback suggestions since we haven’t had anyone replace Dave?

Runescape

I’ve noticed this section has died again, is there any point in keeping it? You may as well merge it back with the online games section (sub forum maybe?).

[scott]

We always have 2 Super Moderators and we will have someone to replace Chris soon too but until then myself and Brandon will be helping out with smod duties. I am also waiting for the permissions to be sorted on 2 moderators that are returning to replace other staff that have left too so it's not something that we aren't working on and not something that can change straight away.

I have noticed that the runescape forum has started to quiet down again, but any time that it gets moved into the online games section the activity starts to increase again and then a feedback thread gets made about making it it's own section. I will see what other peoples opinions on merging it is first though before making a decision on it!

[Grig]

Yeh Dave seems to only come on rarely from some things. Also, what's frustrating is he refused to do some things crucial to the news department for example, which means we are very much hampered. It's a shame really, but at the end of the day you can't force it upon him as he did stay as a good deed.

[xxMATTGxx]

Since Scott answered the other concerns.


If so, who can we rely on to implement smaller/aesthetic changes? Does this mean we can’t implement any new feedback suggestions since we haven’t had anyone replace Dave?

It doesn't mean that because a lot of the feedback doesn't require someone with the knowledge that David as. A lot of stuff can be done by General Management / Admin Team. Now when we start talking about brand new features that has to be made from scratch or skins or anything like that then yes that would be a problem at this moment in time. But suggestions like plugins, changes to forum rules or anything like that is fine.



Yeh Dave seems to only come on rarely from some things. Also, what's frustrating is he refused to do some things crucial to the news department for example, which means we are very much hampered. It's a shame really, but at the end of the day you can't force it upon him as he did stay as a good deed.

In terms of that, that is annoying yes but David did come on recently undercover and we have come up with a solution. It's just going to take a little bit longer.

[Zelda]

Yeh do agree about the Dave stuff, but moving the rs forums is drastic and a big nty tbh. There's a good 6 or 7 of us with active achievement threads and tbh not that I use it but the a trading sections fit much better with the rs forum seperate.

[beth]

i have said before to various people that habbox needs someone who can code asap. other fansites are moving forward and we are currently stuck waiting for david. it's stupid.

[xxMATTGxx]

i have said before to various people that habbox needs someone who can code asap. other fansites are moving forward and we are currently stuck waiting for david. it's stupid.

We don't have a lot of people on this forum who has the knowledge of what David did (Not anymore at least). Plus there is some other factors.

[Samantha]

xxMATTGxx; why not open apps for site coders it would be good to see what people can do tbh?

Also, I think we rely too much on David, come on, some people can do coding it's whether they can actually be arsed to do it or not.

Furthermore, don't go in rs forum but I always see people posting so unsure about that.
scott; if I pmed you about something will you reply with CC?

[Rozi]

In terms of that, that is annoying yes but David did come on recently undercover and we have come up with a solution. It's just going to take a little bit longer.

am I the only one who had a massive giggle at this
picturing dave dressed up as a ninja sitting at his computer thinking OOOO, undercover!!!!!

[scott]

@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); why not open apps for site coders it would be good to see what people can do tbh?

Also, I think we rely too much on David, come on, some people can do coding it's whether they can actually be arsed to do it or not.

Furthermore, don't go in rs forum but I always see people posting so unsure about that.
@scott (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=52752); if I pmed you about something will you reply with CC?

will do :)

[Robbie]

We don't have a lot of people on this forum who has the knowledge of what David did (Not anymore at least). Plus there is some other factors.

hello there

[GommeInc]

We always have 2 Super Moderators and we will have someone to replace Chris soon too but until then myself and Brandon will be helping out with smod duties. I am also waiting for the permissions to be sorted on 2 moderators that are returning to replace other staff that have left too so it's not something that we aren't working on and not something that can change straight away.
Do you ever feel like you're not really a forum manager when you're not allowed to set the permissions yourself? I'm amazed Habbox still do not trust their Forum Managers with simple permissions.

[xxMATTGxx]

Do you ever feel like you're not really a forum manager when you're not allowed to set the permissions yourself? I'm amazed Habbox still do not trust their Forum Managers with simple permissions.

Nothing related to trust. It's not like Scott is limited with access in the ACP and has pretty much all of the options available to him, it's just staff permissions get requested - it's like that for all departments.

[GommeInc]

Nothing related to trust. It's not like Scott is limited with access in the ACP and has pretty much all of the options available to him, it's just staff permissions get requested - it's like that for all departments.
Yet the Forum Manager cannot manage his department. The poor sod is having to take on super moderator roles because he has to rely on someone else to manage his department. He's not a Manager, he's a Forum Co-ordinator.

[xxMATTGxx]

Yet the Forum Manager cannot manage his department. The poor sod is having to take on super moderator roles because he has to rely on someone else to manage his department. He's not a Manager, he's a Forum Co-ordinator.

What on earth? He manages his department. No one manages it for him. Plus if the moderators were needed in a real emergency then he could of easily added themselves and messaged informing us the reason of that. The permissions were added within a day of them being requested, did it cause problems? No not at all.

[GommeInc]

What on earth? He manages his department. No one manages it for him.
No no no, you're using the Habbox definition of manage. He's a co-ordinator, he doesn't set roles within his department nor can he administrate his department. If he was a Manager, he would be a Forum Administrator on a basic level (set permissions for forums, users etc.) and then you chuck the manage part on top where he can set those people tasks to perform and alter his surroundings. I assume he currently has permissions to, for example, change the titles of forums which is one of the basic demands of a Manager? A Tesco Manager, for example, can change the layout of their store, set roles and make basic administrative changes. If he can't, he's a pure and simple co-ordinator.

[xxMATTGxx]

No no no, you're using the Habbox definition of manage. He's a co-ordinator, he doesn't set roles within his department nor can he administrate his department. If he was a Manager, he would be a Forum Administrator on a basic level (set permissions for forums, users etc.) and then you chuck the manage part on top where he can set those people tasks to perform and alter his surroundings. I assume he currently has permissions to, for example, change the titles of forums which is one of the basic demands of a Manager? A Tesco Manager, for example, can change the layout of their store, set roles and make basic administrative changes. If he can't, he's a pure and simple co-ordinator.

So you want Forum Management being able to deal with any types of permissions on the forum? Because I very much doubt they would like more roles for what they have to currently do. I know people don't like this term but: "Don't fix something that isn't broken".

[GommeInc]

So you want Forum Management being able to deal with any types of permissions on the forum? Because I very much doubt they would like more roles for what they have to currently do. I know people don't like this term but: "Don't fix something that isn't broken".
Scott said it himself, he is having to wait for someone to manage his department to create more moderators (hence he's not a real manager). It's giving them the power to streamline their department to work more easily with demands. It's definitely not any extra effort on him, considering he is afterall waiting to actually fulfill his duties :rolleyes:

[xxMATTGxx]

Scott said it himself, he is having to wait for someone to manage his department to create more moderators (hence he's not a real manager). It's giving them the power to streamline their department to work more easily with demands. It's definitely not any extra effort on him, considering he is afterall waiting to actually fulfill his duties :rolleyes:

Scott said himself he was waiting for someone to give the two members staff permissions. Your last post also made it look like you wanted Forum Management to be able to deal with permissions across the forum and that would mean ALL staff permissions.

If Scott had a problem with the wait, he knows what he can do. It has caused 0 problems whatsoever.

[Robbie]

I know people don't like this term but: "Don't fix something that isn't broken".

But it is broken. A Forum MANAGER cannot even set BASIC permissions to the staff and department he's supposed to manage. When the manager himself knows it is broken, because he has been requesting these permissions, you can see for yourself that it is broken.

[Inseriousity.]

No no no, you're using the Habbox definition of manage. He's a co-ordinator, he doesn't set roles within his department

Yes he does


nor can he administrate his department.

Yes he can, using the same procedures in place as every other department manager to ensure that there is fairness and no hierarchy of managers form. All department managers are equal, no department is above another.


If he was a Manager, he would be a Forum Administrator on a basic level (set permissions for forums, users etc.) and then you chuck the manage part on top where he can set those people tasks to perform and alter his surroundings. I assume he currently has permissions to, for example, change the titles of forums which is one of the basic demands of a Manager? A Tesco Manager, for example, can change the layout of their store, set roles and make basic administrative changes. If he can't, he's a pure and simple co-ordinator.

Again he can do this.

All managers are given freedom to manage their department how they would like. AGMs are mostly observers who chip in if help is asked for or if a problem is so serious it requires urgent attention from someone higher up. Habbox uses the same definition of manage as everyone else.

[GommeInc]

Scott said himself he was waiting for someone to give the two members staff permissions. Your last post also made it look like you wanted Forum Management to be able to deal with permissions across the forum and that would mean ALL staff permissions.

If Scott had a problem with the wait, he knows what he can do. It has caused 0 problems whatsoever.
I didn't suggest that at all but Habbox Management are also known to "put words in the mouths of other people". In essence yes, because you cannot seperate who can give permissions to who, but you can have a rule that they can only change the permissions of anything related to the forum e.g. moderators, super moderators, administrators, banned members, VIP members, cautioned members etc. etc.

It was merely a comment on how useless Habbox Managers seem to be, and how they really are not Managers. It's something that's never made any sense :P


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All of this contradicts all the above - he clearly cannot if he cannot set permissions for his department. Managers can hire staff and get them up and running immediately. Another interesting tidbit about Habbox Management, they contradict each other. There is no solidarity, continuity and consistency.

[xxMATTGxx]

Just thought I would add on that a Tesco Manager can only change a small part of the actual store layout. I'm sure you all wanted to know that.

[GommeInc]

Just thought I would add on that a Tesco Manager can only change a small part of the actual store layout. I'm sure you all wanted to know that.
Actually this is false. They can move around whole aisles if they wanted to and even practice this in most small stores like Metros and Expresses, where space is an issue. Self-scan checkouts are one example where Store Managers have had to alter store layouts to accomodate ever-changing technological advances. They cannot make huge physical alterations, like move the deli and fresh food counters to the other side of the store, for the obvious reason that they are too expensive and unnecessary :P

[Inseriousity.]

You ignored the middle section where I responded to that. There is no contradiction. Ironically the reason he doesn't set permissions is because there is continuity and consistency. Other department managers can not set permissions for their department so he goes through the same process as them. You're taking a rather small part of the management process and assuming that they are not given the room/space to manage.

[xxMATTGxx]

Actually this is false. They can move around whole aisles if they wanted to and even practice this in most small stores like Metros and Expresses, where space is an issue. Self-scan checkouts are one example where Store Managers have had to alter store layouts.

Sorry but I asked a person who works in the actual store? I said small parts, I didn't detail which parts they could change. They still get sent plans from whoever is above for the overall store layout. Just like Apple nearly have the same layout across their stores, that is because it has been set by management above any store manager or whatever they may have.

[The Don]

You ignored the middle section where I responded to that. There is no contradiction. Ironically the reason he doesn't set permissions is because there is continuity and consistency. Other department managers can not set permissions for their department so he goes through the same process as them. You're taking a rather small part of the management process and assuming that they are not given the room/space to manage.

So he has the power to do so, but isn't allowed to edit it himself so that other managers don't think it's unfair because they don't have the powers to do so? If I'm reading that correctly then it's ridiculous, if he's the forum manager, that's part of his role, obviously the other managers don't need to do this, that's the forum managers job, sorting out forum perms etc so it isn't unfair in the slightest if scott is allowed to do this and other managers aren't.

[Grig]

Then going by your above argument, you claim all managers should do that?

I don't see what's broken with the system. Sure, in the past permissions were done quicker, but the system has been like it has for the past few years.

[Kyle]

a no to the merge of the rs forum. I don't use it as much as I have in the past because I'm rarely on rs but it would be a shame to bury the entire section again. i think having it out in the open like this has actually encouraged a few to (re)start playing it.

as for the absence of a coder... what about blob? unperm him.

[Grig]

a no to the merge of the rs forum. I don't use it as much as I have in the past because I'm rarely on rs but it would be a shame to bury the entire section again. i think having it out in the open like this has actually encouraged a few to (re)start playing it.

as for the absence of a coder... what about blob? unperm him.

Blob's back on another account :P.

As for the coder yeh, you can open apps. I know some other sites have done it and it's worked very well for them. However, the concern would be in permissions and trust.

[GommeInc]

Sorry but I asked a person who works in the actual store? I said small parts, I didn't detail which parts they could change. They still get sent plans from whoever is above for the overall store layout. Just like Apple nearly have the same layout across their stores, that is because it has been set by management above any store manager or whatever they may have.
And I know a regional manager and a store manager in my village who gave me all this information for a business module I applied for on retail management and marketing :P The regional manager stated there are obvious, universal guidelines built upon the premise of expense, logistics and marketing. They know what layouts work best to sell to the consumer over years of marketing. However, the store manager guidelines state that store layout changes are permissable where demand is needed. So if there is a growing demand for clothing, then stores can place a small collection of clothing items. Most stores I know of seem to like moving around the area just infront of the entrace to the store, because it's usually quite a wide area using low amounts of shelving. It's quite interesting really, even though it bored the crap out of me at the time :P


You ignored the middle section where I responded to that. There is no contradiction. Ironically the reason he doesn't set permissions is because there is continuity and consistency. Other department managers can not set permissions for their department so he goes through the same process as them. You're taking a rather small part of the management process and assuming that they are not given the room/space to manage.
I'd be worried if your hierarchy was Forum Manager > News Manager. Usually it's Forum Manager > Forum Administrator/Super Moderator > Forum Moderator. Departments shouldn't merge together like you seem to be suggesting by this idea of a Manager Hierarchy, when a Department literally splits them. If your Managers are jealous of a Manager being giving permissions that live up to their role, then you should probably get them seen to.

[xxMATTGxx]

And I know a regional manager and a store manager in my village who gave me all this information for a business module I applied for on retail management and marketing :P The regional manager stated there are obvious, universal guidelines built upon the premise of expense, logistics and marketing. They know what layouts work best to sell to the consumer over years of marketing. However, the store manager guidelines state that store layout changes are permissable where demand is needed. So if there is a growing demand for clothing, then stores can place a small collection of clothing items. Most stores I know of seem to like moving around the area just infront of the entrace to the store. It's quite interesting really, even though it bored the crap out of me at the time :P

Which is understandable. But in terms of permissions - It's a system that works, a system that doesn't actually fail and there is nothing wrong with the way it is done. It's not really something that the users are going to change either because really it's the manager(s) who it's going to affect the most and then it would be up to them to speak to us about it.

[beth]

why does this matter, it's habbox not waitrose.

[GommeInc]

Which is understandable. But in terms of permissions - It's a system that works, a system that doesn't actually fail and there is nothing wrong with the way it is done. It's not really something that the users are going to change either because really it's the manager(s) who it's going to affect the most and then it would be up to them to speak to us about it.
It was just an idea afterall, but it seems to be halting the duties of the Forum Manager. The mods have been chosen but he has to wait. It doesn't seem very streamline. It does work, but not as quickly as it could do, is the suggestion.

[Chippiewill]

"Don't fix something that isn't broken".
I'm sure that's the exact mindset that Tim Berners-Lee used when he revolutionised the internet. It worked well, just not too well so he didn't bother. Oh wait..

[scottish]

Having every manager on habbox given admincp would just be stupid

Especially with 1 week managers in the past, and the fact that half the current managers if you were to ask, no-one would know who the hell they are

Why the **** are you talking about tesco...

[FlyingJesus]

am I the only one who had a massive giggle at this

Yup


Having every manager on habbox given admincp would just be stupid

Not every manager would need it as only the forum manager requires the ability to manage the forum. I have handily bolded the key word here. Not all staff have the same permissions as each other (graphics team don't have rights in HxHD, news writers don't have moderator powers etc) so there is literally no argument for not allowing managers to actually have the control that's necessary for the role - without it, there's no point even having them.

[The Don]

Yup



Not every manager would need it as only the forum manager requires the ability to manage the forum. I have handily bolded the key word here. Not all staff have the same permissions as each other (graphics team don't have rights in HxHD, news writers don't have moderator powers etc) so there is literally no argument for not allowing managers to actually have the control that's necessary for the role - without it, there's no point even having them.

I think he does have the power, but to make it fair for all managers, he isn't allowed to use those powers.

[FlyingJesus]

Then it amounts to the same thing and is STUPID

[David]

the only problem i see with permission requests is that I remember bethany; complaining about waiting weeks for some of her staffs to be sorted.

but if people are arguing that all managers should sort their own permissions then maybe user groups instead of permission groups would be better. just an idea though.

[Blinger]

This is like every other feedback thread, Users v Staff.

Also, +1 to Robbie; being a coder. He was one a while back "innit"

[Samantha]

I wouldn't mind if they could give out perms tbh, I'm waiting 3-4 days for most of my perms and who knows what could happen in the time it takes for perms to be removed?

Looking at the replies to this thread he does give staff roles and such but at the most he can only deal with features can't he? I thought we got rid of that group :P.

[myke]

I wouldn't mind if they could give out perms tbh, I'm waiting 3-4 days for most of my perms and who knows what could happen in the time it takes for perms to be removed?

Looking at the replies to this thread he does give staff roles and such but at the most he can only deal with features can't he? I thought we got rid of that group :P.

Dunno what forum you're posting in if you're waiting 3-4 days for them 'cos from what I see they're all done on the day or the day after. With the exception of the last request which had been bumped over by an influx of permission requests. :)

Scott is able to, and does give his moderators their moderator permissions. The only permissions he doesn't give them is their forum viewing permissions, they are all posted up and requested so that there is a constant log of every staff member which is easily searchable, so we are able to see if they were fired/resigned and allows us to make decisions on whether they're suitable for any other roles.

[Adam]

Reading this it just elates to me that the management here hold the forum in higher regard than everything else.

A forum manager should set the forum permissions for all staff because it's HIS forum that HE'S managing.

[Samantha]

Dunno what forum you're posting in if you're waiting 3-4 days for them 'cos from what I see they're all done on the day or the day after. With the exception of the last request which had been bumped over by an influx of permission requests. :)

Scott is able to, and does give his moderators their moderator permissions. The only permissions he doesn't give them is their forum viewing permissions, they are all posted up and requested so that there is a constant log of every staff member which is easily searchable, so we are able to see if they were fired/resigned and allows us to make decisions on whether they're suitable for any other roles.

That would explain it if theryres a lot I'm just thinkingabout when matt does them sometimes but it's probably just the volume of them

Think forum does need another smod and fast because average for posts getting seen to is like 6+ hours these days since chris resigned but I think that might be down to the time not sure which mods are on like 9-3

[xxMATTGxx]

Reading this it just elates to me that the management here hold the forum in higher regard than everything else.

A forum manager should set the forum permissions for all staff because it's HIS forum that HE'S managing.

Just a small correction on the bold part, it isn't his forum at all. The forum is owned by Sierk and Jin like the rest of Habbox.

[Adam]

Just a small correction on the bold part, it isn't his forum at all. The forum is owned by Sierk and Jin like the rest of Habbox.

So you're creating a post on a technicality when avoiding the real issue here? Smart.

In fact, going back to your silly Tesco argument. Tesco own the store, whoever is the CFO/CEO/COO w/e of Tesco owns it but the whoever is the GM, say Jesus, that'd be Jesus' store. It's his store to look after and it's his store when things go to the **** pan.

W/e I don't really care I just thought I'd add my 2 penneth.

[xxMATTGxx]

So you're creating a post on a technicality when avoiding the real issue here? Smart.

In fact, going back to your silly Tesco argument. Tesco own the store, whoever is the CFO/CEO/COO w/e of Tesco owns it but the whoever is the GM, say Jesus, that'd be Jesus' store. It's his store to look after and it's his store when things go to the **** pan.

W/e I don't really care I just thought I'd add my 2 penneth.

I didn't bring up the Tesco argument, yawns. I just replied back to it.

[froobe]

a no to the merge of the rs forum. I don't use it as much as I have in the past because I'm rarely on rs but it would be a shame to bury the entire section again. i think having it out in the open like this has actually encouraged a few to (re)start playing it.

as for the absence of a coder... what about blob? unperm him.

I don't think I'd be allowed to be a coder again, not that I wouldn't consider it or anything.

[Kyle]

were you naughty? :O

well that is sorted then xxMATTGxx; blob is the new coder. post congrats on his page.

[beth]

blob is a victim. i vote blob.

[froobe]

were you naughty? :O

well that is sorted then xxMATTGxx; blob is the new coder. post congrats on his page.

I showed people the v6 layout I made for them and then everything got muddled and I ended up banned. To be fair that was around 2 years ago and I agree my attitude was very (very) poor back then.

[Robbie]

I don't think I'd be allowed to be a coder again, not that I wouldn't consider it or anything.

lmao, remember when we campaigned for MORE PERMS FOR CODERS!!

[froobe]

lmao, remember when we campaigned for MORE PERMS FOR CODERS!!

Haha, good times.

[beth]

i vote robbie for coder too, robbie is also a victim.

[GoldenMerc]

lol coders are all the same nowdays, will accept the work but it never gets done @Robbie 8-)
Never the less Blob and Robbie are immense coders, just will end up the same as every other situation

[froobe]

lol coders are all the same nowdays, will accept the work but it never gets done @Robbie 8-)
Never the less Blob and Robbie are immense coders, just will end up the same as every other situation

I have a lot of spare time :( and some things take a long time to do! But you do have a point completely.

[GoldenMerc]

Well lets work this out, im currently hiring a coder on Elance which comes to around $1700+. The only thing keeping the coder down is most likely its his full time job, or the money he now has in his bank account :P. Most coders here used to grab a job if offered, nowdays, money means nothing to them :P mr Blob dont u work at chf now anyways

[froobe]

Haven't worked for CHF in a while!

[Robbie]

lol coders are all the same nowdays, will accept the work but it never gets done @Robbie 8-)
Never the less Blob and Robbie are immense coders, just will end up the same as every other situation

something always ends up happening, like when i was doing that news thing for you, i had to go to southport for 2 week for family stuff

[beth]

I have a lot of spare time :( and some things take a long time to do! But you do have a point completely.

aw look he's cute, xxMATTGxx; CAN WE KEEP HIM??????????

[GoldenMerc]

which is exactly my point, to be fair Habbox has got really far considering they don't pay coders, they've got a site with quite a lot of interaction and functions etc. So fair play, but i don't think you'l get much more unless you find a person like DaveM8

[froobe]

aw look he's cute, xxMATTGxx; CAN WE KEEP HIM??????????

Haha :love:

[GoldenMerc]

Haha :love:
ryan we both know your not innocent lol!

[froobe]

ryan we both know your not innocent lol!

I've matured quite a bit in two years boy!

[GoldenMerc]

fink i spoke to u about 6 months ago :P
but still not innocent, no ones innocent not even @bethany

[Robbie]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=671123
RyRy; froobe;

[RyRy]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=671123
@RyRy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=81175); @froobe (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=99281);

LMAO DEFENDING THE CODERS 2K10

[beth]

i am not voting ryry for coder, he had an *removed* dirty dawg.

Edited by scott (Forum Manager): Please do not post private information.

[RyRy]

i am not voting ryry for coder, he had *removed* dirty dawg.

Explosive? LOL Well I do have a tendency to Tikka all over your Masala.

Doesn't even make sense, but it's me so it works.

[HotelUser]

So you're creating a post on a technicality when avoiding the real issue here? Smart.

In fact, going back to your silly Tesco argument. Tesco own the store, whoever is the CFO/CEO/COO w/e of Tesco owns it but the whoever is the GM, say Jesus, that'd be Jesus' store. It's his store to look after and it's his store when things go to the **** pan.

W/e I don't really care I just thought I'd add my 2 penneth.

As someone who's seen it from the perspective of a member, staff member, manager and the person who's overseen staff permissions I agree completely with what Scottish said several pages ago. It would be a terrible decision to allow managers to see after their own permissions. First, Habbox wouldn't just allow the forum manager to manage their own permissions and then not allow any other manager the same right. So then, if managers in general were allowed to oversee their own departmental permissions it would be chaos. It's better to have one person who knows what they're doing oversee, keep track of, and fix mistakes pertaining to permissions, as opposed to having a surplus of ten different people attempt to handle that task. Many more mistakes would be made, and it would be much harder to keep track of what's going on. Also, it would be a huge liability to have so many forum administrators.


Yeh Dave seems to only come on rarely from some things. Also, what's frustrating is he refused to do some things crucial to the news department for example, which means we are very much hampered. It's a shame really, but at the end of the day you can't force it upon him as he did stay as a good deed.

There's no news related jobs I've ever "refused" to do since becoming a coder for Habbox, the one exception to this is when it was suggested that news not be displayed on the home page by Oli as GM, and I (maybe with Charlie I can't remember) had a lot to say about that. I'm going to assume by refused you meant did not deal with because he resigned :P.


i have said before to various people that habbox needs someone who can code asap. other fansites are moving forward and we are currently stuck waiting for david. it's stupid.

I've resigned, so in theory nobody should be waiting for me to do anything. I'm happy to help out on occasion when asked, or to finish the several tasks I had sitting on my computer half done like the radio application, or fix old scripts of mine like the new rares scripts, but I want to stress that my resignation is final. Unfortunately I just don't have enough time to stick around like I did before. I'm still rooting for Habbox and if I can ever help give it an edge above its competition then I will, but I can see that Rob has volunteered (I think) to do some Habbox related development, I know Ben is eager to keep learning more about web development, and if I recall correctly HxL has a management member who knows his way around a stylesheet quite well! Habbox definitely has some really intelligent staff members who are capable of producing great things for the fansite. Notwithstanding this, there's quite a lot of coders outside the Habbox clubhouse that Matt and Jin will recruit I'm sure!


Blob's back on another account :P.

I could be wrong but assuming Ryan is still banned from the fansite you really should be reporting this to a super moderator if you have knowledge of users sneaking on the forum.

In regards to Ryan though, I really don't know why he's still banned (IF he is still banned anyhow, as I have been out of the loop). I remember protesting against his ban atleast once this year to Jin when we spoke of Ryan because I think whatever he did wrong several years ago, he's certainly been banned long enough for it. I think he's another person Habbox could look to for coding help.

[beth]

HotelUser; i didn't mean any of what i said as a negative towards you, i meant it more towards a negative on the actions of management who are sitting around waiting for you rather than outsourcing new coders/technicians. sorry if it came across that way! you have rightly retired and should be able to take as long away as you please without being forced to return to work. the fact you've offered to be even an occasional techy is generous.

(p.s: whats yr gaia username)

[froobe]

In regards to Ryan though, I really don't know why he's still banned (IF he is still banned anyhow, as I have been out of the loop). I remember protesting against his ban atleast once this year to Jin when we spoke of Ryan because I think whatever he did wrong several years ago, he's certainly been banned long enough for it. I think he's another person Habbox could look to for coding help.

Hey man! I'm no longer banned (not sure why, I asked Matt and he said I wasn't). Thanks for the recommendation ;)