event rep

[Richie]

I know a lot of people feel the same way. The majority of the time when I win an event I choose rep because I don't need furni but I never seem to get my rep.. There has been a few times I have actually checked my rep points (kept an eye on it) and it never changes. Can you guys not create an event account already, make a sub forum in feedback or something, make it private, we post to get our rep and we recieve +rep that way because this is dumb.


At least this way we will actually know when we get rep!

[Inseriousity.]

The system in place is fine and does work. The problem is that events management leave it til the end of the month then post them all together. this then takes a bit more time because aside from the really long delay, when it is posted, there's about 50+ people to do and so its natural that the forum management would take it slowly. Your system just seems like a really big faff on when it doesn't need to be when the simplest solution would be for events mgmt to just do it once a week or at the very least once a fortnight.

[Red]

It would be nice to get a message when u receive it or something because it does feel like you never get it.

[Richie]

The system in place is fine and does work. The problem is that events management leave it til the end of the month then post them all together. this then takes a bit more time because aside from the really long delay, when it is posted, there's about 50+ people to do and so its natural that the forum management would take it slowly. Your system just seems like a really big faff on when it doesn't need to be when the simplest solution would be for events mgmt to just do it once a week or at the very least once a fortnight.


It clearly isn't if people keep complaining they don't receive rep. Maybe creating a forum account for rep isn't the best way but we should definitely be able to see when we receive our prize. Keeping an eye on your actual rep points can be hard as others rep you. If we received rep through a forum account it would actually display on the rep page.

[Kyle]

at least give us a notfication when we get rep? eevn if i do get it i am never aware of it cos it's such a small amount.

[A4R0N]

i have like never received rep from events and i've chosen rep over furni countless times

[Inseriousity.]

It clearly isn't if people keep complaining they don't receive rep. Maybe creating a forum account for rep isn't the best way but we should definitely be able to see when we receive our prize. Keeping an eye on your actual rep points can be hard as others rep you. If we received rep through a forum account it would actually display on the rep page.

The likelihood is that people did receive their rep but have failed to notice as they are unaware of when it's been added so can't notice the difference. For example, you could've been watching your account for 2 weeks and if it wasn't added til the 3rd week, you wouldn't have noticed or could have been added before you started watching and again you wouldn't have noticed. Sending a PM to say 'your rep has been added thanks for taking part blah blah blah' was something that was started by the comps dept while I was manager. It's a very simple thing to do so I see no reason why it can't be brought back. I confess that it ended up slipping off the radar because it is such a simple thing that it's also something forgettable but if we can get it embedded into the routine then it should become second nature.

Having a private subforum would rely on it having to be checked by management to make sure no-one's tryna get sneaky +rep which would involve a lot of hassle and chasing around which isn't really needed so I disagree with that idea.

[Richie]

The likelihood is that people did receive their rep but have failed to notice as they are unaware of when it's been added so can't notice the difference. For example, you could've been watching your account for 2 weeks and if it wasn't added til the 3rd week, you wouldn't have noticed or could have been added before you started watching and again you wouldn't have noticed. Sending a PM to say 'your rep has been added thanks for taking part blah blah blah' was something that was started by the comps dept while I was manager. It's a very simple thing to do so I see no reason why it can't be brought back. I confess that it ended up slipping off the radar because it is such a simple thing that it's also something forgettable but if we can get it embedded into the routine then it should become second nature.

Having a private subforum would rely on it having to be checked by management to make sure no-one's tryna get sneaky +rep which would involve a lot of hassle and chasing around which isn't really needed so I disagree with that idea.


By all means do it every month. I'd prefer it to display in my actual rep notes so I can actually see it has been added. Get a list of all the people who won events at the start of every month have a thread where people can reply for rep, if they post in it even though they didn't win an event warn them as you would with other forums. Surely it can't be that hard to rep 50 people (you have a list of names) and just skip the people that didn't win an event.

[Inseriousity.]

By all means do it every month. I'd prefer it to display in my actual rep notes so I can actually see it has been added. Get a list of all the people who won events at the start of every month have a thread where people can reply for rep, if they post in it even though they didn't win an event warn them as you would with other forums. Surely it can't be that hard to rep 50 people (you have a list of names) and just skip the people that didn't win an event.

It's a lot easier to post who needs what in a thread and waiting for forum management to post them. Warning people and getting into arguments with people who insist they did win an event even though the EOs involved don't have any records of them doing so (and there's no point pretending, you know as well as I do that some people will do precisely that and some will push it to the point where you just go argh I give up, here, have your rep and go away) is not really a system I would want to be in charge of and I doubt events management would want to go through all that hassle as well when the current system is easy, practical and gets the job done.

[Richie]

It's a lot easier to post who needs what in a thread and waiting for forum management to post them. Warning people and getting into arguments with people who insist they did win an event even though the EOs involved don't have any records of them doing so (and there's no point pretending, you know as well as I do that some people will do precisely that and some will push it to the point where you just go argh I give up, here, have your rep and go away) is not really a system I would want to be in charge of and I doubt events management would want to go through all that hassle as well when the current system is easy, practical and gets the job done.


Adding everyones rep manually is surely harder than repping a post on the forum. The system isn't practical and it doesn't get the job done as you can see from above posts. The system definitely needs to be improved and any time this is brought up it seems to get ignored or shot down due to pure laziness. If I win a prize I want to know that I have received my prize.

[Inseriousity.]

I'm not really sure how long it takes the forum management to add rep manually but it doesn't seem to take too long. In fact, mattg was really super fast when he was features manager! I'd say it'd be longer to go through each thread, check they've actually won something then add especially when there are 100s of winners a month. The system is practical and it does get the job done. I've already suggested possible alternatives to "it's not been added" that could explain it. Naturally, it isn't perfect and no system ever is but it is more effective than the system you're suggesting. It's not pure laziness, it's about not adding or changing something just for the sake of it or taking a step backwards. I am not in favour of keeping systems for the sake of it/tradition so am open to change (I completely changed the way the comp dept works due to member feedback) but I am also not in favour of implementing systems that are likely to cause more problems than they solve. You can call that pure laziness, I'd call it common sense.

[Ftb80562]

Wondered Why This Was, Did Some GFX And It Say +Rep, But Mine Is Still At 1.

[Samantha]

Wondered Why This Was, Did Some GFX And It Say +Rep, But Mine Is Still At 1.

Your number '1' will go up with either 2,500 posts, 400 rep points or 1 year registration.

I never notice if they add rep to mine tbh. I think I got some though as someone +repped me and I noticed my amount went up more than that persons power.

[Mathew]

Hey,
As Mike said, we tend to request rep once a month but naturally we end up getting pages and pages of winners so it's quite a lengthy process for both Events and the Forum. Scott asked me if I could post them in smaller amounts so it's not such a big shock to the system all at once; so that's what we'll be doing from now on. The current system is fine and it works - a subforum would get waaaaay too messy and it would be very difficult to organise.

As you only win 5 rep per event, it's often not very clear whether it's been added to your account or not. I agree that it would be nice for it to appear with a little message like normal rep, but I don't think that's possible (I'm assuming Scott just adds 5 points on to the current amount).

I'll go request a few more now! :D
Cheers!

[Kardan]

Sorry to massively bump this thread, but why have the threads for the rep winners been discontinued? The last one I can find was from December:

www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=765440

[Martin]

Sorry to massively bump this thread, but why have the threads for the rep winners been discontinued? The last one I can find was from December:

www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=765440 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=765440)


God knows :P

We will ensure that from the next time reputation is added that a list is published each time :) Its easy enough to do really since we have to prepare a list for the features manager/forum manager to add the rep anyway, so the list is basically already made, we just needa post it in a thread.

[Phil]

It was probably removed because it was extra unnecessary work for management. Although it's nothing strenuous, do people want to see this come back in? It's a bit pointless imho :P

[Aiden]

Not much rep is given out anyway lol

but why not (y)

only opena nd paste

[e5]

An account should +rep winners, which a set amount of rep power, so the winner gets what they've won (assuming all rep prizes are the same?). This way they can leave a message saying - Competition winners rep or something, would save a PM?

[FlyingJesus]

Thread is older than the sun but still it makes sense; having an account with set rep power and unlimited capacity to dish it out would mean that not only would people see when they've received it, but there'd be a simple record for staff in the "reputation given" part of usercp

[God]

Thread is older than the sun but still it makes sense; having an account with set rep power and unlimited capacity to dish it out would mean that not only would people see when they've received it, but there'd be a simple record for staff in the "reputation given" part of usercp

That is actually a great Idea!

[e5]

An account should +rep winners, which a set amount of rep power, so the winner gets what they've won (assuming all rep prizes are the same?). This way they can leave a message saying - Competition winners rep or something, would save a PM?

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Thread is older than the sun but still it makes sense; having an account with set rep power and unlimited capacity to dish it out would mean that not only would people see when they've received it, but there'd be a simple record for staff in the "reputation given" part of usercp



That is actually a great Idea!

Erm, think i'll take the credit for that one ;)

[Mr-Trainor]

Yeah an account doing it would be great, because unlike with tokens, you can't see that it has been added. It could be done to the Events account that already exists and then people will know what it's for. The only problem is what post will it +rep, and what if the user hasn't posted?

[LiquidLuck.]

I think they could create a thread for every event winner to post in, and the account would rep those posts.

[Mr-Trainor]

I think they could create a thread for every event winner to post in, and the account would rep those posts.
That'd just make it more complicated than it needs to be really, and it could take a while for people to post.

[LiquidLuck.]

That'd just make it more complicated than it needs to be really, and it could take a while for people to post.

I don't think it would be fair to just rep any post though. S:

[FlyingJesus]

I think they could create a thread for every event winner to post in, and the account would rep those posts.

That could so easily be abused :P

[e5]

Surely they will have posted? I doubt people are gonna ask for rep if they're not regular members of the forum - they'd choose furni?

Yeah an account doing it would be great, because unlike with tokens, you can't see that it has been added. It could be done to the Events account that already exists and then people will know what it's for. The only problem is what post will it +rep, and what if the user hasn't posted?

[LiquidLuck.]

Surely they will have posted? I doubt people are gonna ask for rep if they're not regular members of the forum - they'd choose furni?

Exactly.

[Mr-Trainor]

Surely they will have posted? I doubt people are gonna ask for rep if they're not regular members of the forum - they'd choose furni?
I guess so, but then you still have to go and find a post to +rep.

[FlyingJesus]

I guess so, but then you still have to go and find a post to +rep.

Profile > Find latest posts :P

[Samantha]

Rep is usually added at the end of the month, I know I've won a few so does that mean waiting weeks for my rep or will the rules be lifted so they can rep more than once?

[xxMATTGxx]

Rep is usually added at the end of the month, I know I've won a few so does that mean waiting weeks for my rep or will the rules be lifted so they can rep more than once?

vBulletin has it set so only Admins can actually rep a user more than once. It's not set by usergroup permissions so it couldn't be changed.

[e5]

Doubt it really matters what post they +rep tbh :P

I guess so, but then you still have to go and find a post to +rep.

[Mr-Trainor]

vBulletin has it set so only Admins can actually rep a user more than once. It's not set by usergroup permissions so it couldn't be changed.
Oh, well I guess the last thing you wanna be doing is making HabboxEvents; an admin account :P.
Btw spoilers are gone from the staff list page.

[Chippiewill]

Can't you make something an admin account without giving it access to any admin permissions?

[xxMATTGxx]

Can't you make something an admin account without giving it access to any admin permissions?

Technically yes. Although at the end of the day it's up to @Bolt660 and Smurfed-; if they want to start adding it like this.

[Chippiewill]

In theory someone could write a small utility to just insert a row into the reputation log table for that user.

[xxMATTGxx]

In theory someone could write a small utility to just insert a row into the reputation log table for that user.

Indeed but other projects could/should be finished first.

[Chippiewill]

I was actually implying Recursion should be forced to do it.

[Phil]

Honestly, I know it's not me that's going to be doing it but this would create a lot of extra work for the managers, you'd be surprised at how much gets requested per day in that thread and unfortunately some staff members leave it a few days and accumulate a lot of rep to be requested and then do it all in one big bunch.

The only reason this would be useful is so you know your reputation has been added and would a thread in the Community Notice Board every week/fortnight not suffice?

[Kardan]

Honestly, I know it's not me that's going to be doing it but this would create a lot of extra work for the managers, you'd be surprised at how much gets requested per day in that thread and unfortunately some staff members leave it a few days and accumulate a lot of rep to be requested and then do it all in one big bunch.

The only reason this would be useful is so you know your reputation has been added and would a thread in the Community Notice Board every week/fortnight not suffice?

You say 'The only reason this would be useful'... well yeah, that's the point we're trying to make, that's what we want it :P And yes, a thread would suffice. I think people are asking about an account, because it might be easier than doing a thread.

And if a thread is already within the staff forums, how hard can it be to copy it, and paste it into announcements?

[Phil]

You say 'The only reason this would be useful'... well yeah, that's the point we're trying to make, that's what we want it :P And yes, a thread would suffice. I think people are asking about an account, because it might be easier than doing a thread.

And if a thread is already within the staff forums, how hard can it be to copy it, and paste it into announcements?

A thread would be FAR easier than an account going and repping everyone individually and I think Martin said they were going to bring that back a good few posts ago :P

[Kardan]

A thread would be FAR easier than an account going and repping everyone individually and I think Martin said they were going to bring that back a good few posts ago :P

Then it's all good :P I can see the advantages of an account, because then we can actually see it added, rather than having to check our rep until the thread is posted, but it would take far, far longer. So a thread is the best solution :)

[Martin]

Personally I think its fine to stay as it is and having an account to do this is not really needed and will take longer than copying the list over, however we will ensure that the thread is posted documenting who has had reputation issued.


I think perhaps it would be a good idea to have a set day for rep to be added too such as a Sunday evening rather than just randomly, that way people can expect to see the thread on a sunday evening and know exactly how much rep they have earnt.

Whenever I make the thread (Its mainly always me that requests the rep to be added) I will also tag people in it when writing their names so they are aware they have received the rep.

[Inseriousity.]

There is no need to overcomplicate a system that already works perfectly fine. The underlying issue here is trust. Do you trust that Habbox won't be sad enough to rip you off from a tiny miniscule amount of rep? It is perfectly reasonable to suggest that you are informed when rep has been added but it is illogical to expect managers to go through lots of accounts manually adding rep - especially as plenty of people win more than 5 rep so multiple times repping the same person - when it is easier to just copy and paste into a thread.

[Chippiewill]

Do you trust that Habbox won't be sad enough to rip you off from a tiny miniscule amount of rep?

I think the concern is more of either EOs forgetting to request it or Managers missing off someones name or something.

[Inseriousity.]

The thread would solve that problem, the account has too many flaws in it to be considered practical.