Few things

[GoldenMerc]

Hi,

Just wondering a few things;

Habbox Council ~

Can we bring it back again, last time i don't really think it was pulled into place correctly, by being in the Council you will not be staff but you will be able to directly speak to management about ideas, considering a few things that have been idea's in the past few threads i've done still haven't been implemented yet.

Football betting manager ~

Can we have one for the premier league? So all year around pretty pleaseeee
Ross

[David]

personally I don't think vbsoccer should be used other than international.

[Inseriousity.]

If a manager hasnt implemented ideas, be persistent and annoying about it and its more likely to get done (although this is only if the manager has promised to implement it. If they don't even like the idea and argue against it, what do you expect?! :P). Chances are it's more because its just naturally been lowered on the list of priorities so I'd personally either contact the manager in private about it. If that doesn't work, I'd make a thread in this forum about it and hope that strong public opinion on it gives the manager the kick up the bum and if that don't work, a PM to general management could do it. Although I hope it'd never get to that stage, these things do tend to slip through the net.

I don't really see the need for a council. Reminds me of student reps in school where theyre supposed to say what the members want but most members dont even talk to them.

[FlyingJesus]

There are like 20 active members, 50 of whom are staff. We have absolutely no need whatsoever for a council since there is no-one to represent

[GoldenMerc]

There are like 20 active members, 50 of whom are staff. We have absolutely no need whatsoever for a council since there is no-one to represent

Common theres lots more than 20 active members who are non staff :P

[nvrspk4]

Giving me PTSD with the Habbox Council...

That said the reason it didn't work out initially was because the top levels didn't want to be responsive to the council, which is why I left that position. But then again, the council was created because General Management wasn't responsive...so I guess it's a circular issue.

If you think about it, the reason to implement a council is for management to listen, but if management doesn't listen then they won't listen to a council. On the flipside, if management does listen (which I believe is the case) then there's no need for a council in the first place.

[FlyingJesus]

Common theres lots more than 20 active members who are non staff :P

Maybe if you count the ones who think "FREE CREDITS!!!" is a good suggestion to put forward to management

[GoldenMerc]

Giving me PTSD with the Habbox Council...

That said the reason it didn't work out initially was because the top levels didn't want to be responsive to the council, which is why I left that position. But then again, the council was created because General Management wasn't responsive...so I guess it's a circular issue.

If you think about it, the reason to implement a council is for management to listen, but if management doesn't listen then they won't listen to a council. On the flipside, if management does listen (which I believe is the case) then there's no need for a council in the first place.
So confused...

Maybe if you count the ones who think "FREE CREDITS!!!" is a good suggestion to put forward to management
In terms of the entire forum theres enough members to get a half decent council together.

[nvrspk4]

Which part confused you?

[GoldenMerc]

Which part confused you?

Every part unfortuantly, i think i get the jist of it. Management have to listen to ether the council or the members, or nether. So if there not listening to the members the chances are they won't listen to the council ether?

[e5]

I agree with point two! Yes, please.

[nvrspk4]

Every part unfortuantly, i think i get the jist of it. Management have to listen to ether the council or the members, or nether. So if there not listening to the members the chances are they won't listen to the council ether?

Yah. That's why it flopped last time.

[Chippiewill]

Always seemed like a dumb idea to me. Just a bad excuse for the vocal part of the community to get more of a say than they already have.

[GoldenMerc]

Always seemed like a dumb idea to me. Just a bad excuse for the vocal part of the community to get more of a say than they already have.

But we currently only have a restricted part anyways, considering what we say has to go through a few more people...

[FlyingJesus]

In terms of the entire forum theres enough members to get a half decent council together.

But what need is there? With so few people active these days - and far fewer still who are bothered about making changes - the feedback forum is a big enough platform for everyone's views. If upper management don't properly/promptly read through feedback threads then there's no reason to assume they'll read through council reports, which would themselves only ever be comprised of either majority views (which, especially on teen forums, are often very wrong) or the views of the most highly informed (which are likely to be in feedback anyway if the persons advocating such views actually care).

[mrwoooooooo]

what would a council do? There isnt anything that needs changing

[CrazyLemurs]

A council would be fine
If the members could be voted in.
Although that could cause popular yet trolling members to get in on bought votes.
Although GM could reserve the right to remove any councilpersonman.



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[xxMATTGxx]

I really don't think a council will help at all and plus the previous times it has been attempted and failed, the chances of it failing again is quite high. Since you love me Mr Ross, feel free to send me a PM with the list of things you mention in your first post though.

In terms of making the football predictions an all year round thing with other leagues then that is probably some what a bad idea. Well it's good to get people taking part and winning stuff but I feel it should be only kept for football events such as the Euros and the World Cup.

[GommeInc]

There's no need for a council. I find a VM to whoever usually works these days.

[David]

I remember someone brought up the 7 day wait before rep like a few months back
what was the conclusion on that being reduced?

[Recursion]

I think it's a good idea.

[David]

what is it being reduced to xxMATTGxx;


The suggestion that would could change for sure is reduce the amount of days you have to wait until you can rep the same person.

[xxMATTGxx]

what is it being reduced to xxMATTGxx;

Well I shall tag brandon; for the time being.

[brandon]

Hmm how long do you think it should be? I think 1 week is reasonable enough.

[David]

3-4 days is fine imo

[Chippiewill]

I don't see any issue with rep at the moment personally.

[Richie]

wasn't habbox council people who welcomed new users? or was that welcome staff or something. Oli made the role forget what it was called.

[sex]

5 days before you can rep again brandon; :D

[xxMATTGxx]

wasn't habbox council people who welcomed new users? or was that welcome staff or something. Oli made the role forget what it was called.

I believe that was something else, wasn't that called the Welcome Committee or something.

[HotelUser]

The Habbox Council was a good idea on paper when it was first devised, but that was because I *think* in the original feedback thread where it was suggested, people were unhappy with the involvement (or lack thereof) of upper manager on the forum.

Lack of management involvement is not a current problem like it was in the past because Matt and his crew are more active on HxF and a lot more responsive to feedback threads then a lot of their predecessors.

As for the actual council itself I don't think reinstating it is a very good idea because last time it existed it was (perhaps) productive in the beginning but eventually they just couldn't get much done. Whether that was because of internal disagreements on actions between council members or because management didn't pay attention to the council I don't know (maybe a mix of both). I honestly think that instead of electing a small group of members to be the voice of the members, just keeping the existing feedback forum how it is would be more productive because then all members are entitled to equal representation of their own opinions, and because current management is equally inclined to pay attention to feedback threads as would be to listen to a council.

[Chippiewill]

I believe that was something else, wasn't that called the Welcome Committee or something.
That was a disaster, I still don't get why Sauruv got chucked out for saying that it wasn't good and x stuff needs to be done to improve it. He basically got screwed over because he wasn't technically staff.

[GommeInc]

The Council was utterly useless in every way. It just looked nice to those who weren't on the council and it was upper management's way of looking like something is being done when actually it was business as usual. The discussions that went on inside the Council may as well of been these feedback threads.

[nvrspk4]

The Council was utterly useless in every way. It just looked nice to those who weren't on the council and it was upper management's way of looking like something is being done when actually it was business as usual. The discussions that went on inside the Council may as well of been these feedback threads.

Agreed. Actually it could have been useful just that upper management at the time decided not to work in Council's recommendations at all. So it was useless. And as has been said before, is only useful when management don't reply to feedback threads, which was largely the case at the time.