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-:Undertaker:-
24-06-2012, 08:37 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9352797/Syria-Turkey-to-convene-emergency-Nato-meeting.html

Syria: Turkey to convene emergency Nato meeting

Turkey is to convene an emergency session of Nato after declaring that Syria's shooting down of one its fighter-jets amounted to a direct challenge to its national security.


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02256/Syria-Turkey_2256499b.jpg


The Turkish government brushed off protestations in Damascus that Friday's incident was an accident, accusing Syria of deliberately bringing down the F-4 Phantom both in international airspace and without warning.

Bringing a potentially dangerous international dimension to the stand-off, Turkey took the highly unusual step of invoking Article IV of Nato's founding charter as it sought Western backing for whatever response it chooses to make.

Article IV allows a Nato member to call for an emergency meeting of the whole alliance if it feels that its "territorial integrity, political independence or security" has been threatened. It has only been invoked once before, when Turkey, fearing a backlash by Saddam Hussein, successfully petitioned the alliance to station anti-missile batteries on its soil in the weeks before the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Nato said its governing body would meet on Tuesday to discuss how to respond.

Underlining Turkish anger, Ahmet Davutoglu, the country's foreign minister also said that a formal protest would be lodged with the United Nations Security Council.

Interesting, but warning bells should be coming for us that we're about to potentially be drawn into another war which is absolutely none of our business. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if this has been a false flag operation - in which Turkey is stretching the truth that it didn't stray into Syrian airspace.

If Turkey did stray into Syrian airspace, then Syria was right to shoot the plane down. But of course, in the world we live in concerning war (WMD, Gulf of Tonkin incident) it's all too common for the politicians to lie to achieve whatever motives they wish to achieve (in this case, the removal of Iran's main partner).

Thoughts?

Chippiewill
24-06-2012, 08:41 PM
I don't think even Syria is claiming the fighter jet strayed into their territory, just that it was an accident.

Syria had no good reason to shoot it down which leads me to also believe it was an accident and in the meantime for peace-keeping reasons assume that is true.

xxMATTGxx
25-06-2012, 10:08 PM
Well they tried shooting down another plane....


Turkey says Syria fired on one of its planes that was taking part in a rescue operation for a warplane shot down by Syrian forces last Friday.

Turkey's deputy PM said the CASA search and rescue plane, looking for the F-4 Phantom jet, was not brought down.

He vowed Syria would "not go unpunished" but that Turkey had "no intention" of going to war.

Nato will discuss the downing of the jet on Tuesday at a meeting called by Turkey, a member state.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18586645

GirlNextDoor15
26-06-2012, 02:01 PM
Even if it's an accident, it poses a great threat to national security. Something must be done to solve this issue because it's itself a matter of life or death. However, I don't think the NATO meeting is necessary. It draws unwanted attention or unneeded back ups and like you said, creates something which is utterly none of their business. Can't Turkey protects itself without NATO? Very dubious.

GirlNextDoor15
26-06-2012, 02:22 PM
http://www.rferl.org/content/explainer-nato-articles-4-and-5/24626653.html
Article 4 is only invoked if the country needs CONSULTATION.
But, my common sense told me that Syria wouldn't shoot down Turkey's plane if it didn't cross the border. I'm sure the Syrian authorities weren't that stupid to be involved in another conflict. Something's wrong there.

sex
26-06-2012, 02:24 PM
I don't think even Syria is claiming the fighter jet strayed into their territory, just that it was an accident.

Syria had no good reason to shoot it down which leads me to also believe it was an accident and in the meantime for peace-keeping reasons assume that is true.

There was tapes released where you can hear Syrian forces saying "shoot it down, shoot it down, it's turkish"
doesn't seem like an accident anymore!

GirlNextDoor15
26-06-2012, 02:29 PM
There was tapes released where you can hear Syrian forces saying "shoot it down, shoot it down, it's turkish"
doesn't seem like an accident anymore!

share is pwease

Fifty-Six
27-06-2012, 02:35 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2163281/Turkish-fighter-jet-downed-Syria-Mediterranean-Sea-Turkey-promises-determined-response.html

Wasn't a great move on Damascus' part, they've only increased tensions in the surrounding area. I recently saw a report showing Turkish tanks/artillery being transported to the Syrian border. I don't think it will escalate into further conflict but it was still an unnecessary action. Besides, Syrian military helicopters have frequently crossed the border into Turkey (accidentally, I'm presuming) and were not shot at...

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