Ron Paul's last stand

[-:Undertaker:-]

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Will Ron Paul pull off one last delegate surprise?


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Nebraska Republicans will select delegates on Saturday to send to the national Republican convention, a process that could amount to Ron Paul's last stand as a presidential candidate.

If Paul wins a plurality of delegates in Nebraska this weekend, his name will be put forth as a nominee versus Mitt Romney in Tampa. If his team can't secure enough delegates on Saturday, his longshot bid for the Republican presidential nomination is formally dead.

Nebraska is the last state to hold a convention and its 32 delegates are not required to match the May 15 “beauty contest” primary, where presumptive nominee Mitt Romney won 70 percent of the vote. However, prospective delegates must indicate their presidential preference and are bound to vote for that candidate for the first two ballots at the August Republican National Convention.

According to RNC Rule 40, Paul needs a plurality of delegates from five states for his name to be put forth for nomination at the convention. The Texas Congressman has won a majority of state delegations in Iowa, Maine, Minnesota and Louisiana. If he is nominated, Paul will be allotted fifteen minutes to deliver a speech at the convention before the first round of balloting.

Local reports say both Romney and Paul supporters have been “burning up the phone lines” making calls to delegates to assess who they’re voting for before the state convention in Grand Island.

Support for Paul could embarrass Governor Dave Heineman, who was the first Republican governor to endorse Romney.

"I welcome the Tea Party and Ron Paul supporters," Heineman said. "That's great for our party. But it's time to be good sports and get behind Governor Romney.”

When Republicans arrive at the Riverside Golf Club for the convention they will be met with additional security, hired by the state party in anticipation of a Paul insurgency.

“It’s been communicated to us from other RNC members from around the country to watch for specific things,” Jordan McGrain, executive director of the state Republican Party, told NBC News.

“Their experience has been instructive to us. We’ve received correspondence from those who attended the Nevada and Louisiana state conventions where they had significant disturbances and problems. It arose from not everyone being on the same page and we have the benefit of that hindsight.”

Paul supporters have been blamed for picking arcane rule fights, which dragged out the state convention in Nevada and led to a brawl in Louisiana.

The 76-year-old congressman stopped actively campaigning in May, urging supporters to remain involved in politics to “become delegates, win office, and take leadership positions” and has focused resources on state conventions.

The date of Nebraska’s GOP state convention has not been lost on some Paul supporters, who point out July 14 is Bastille Day – “Vive la Revolution!” It’s up to Nebraska Republicans to determine whether Ron Paul’s Revolution will be loudly heard at the Tampa Bay Times Forum in August.

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It'll be interesting as to what happens at the Tampa GOP convention, thats for sure. Especially with the thouands of Paul supporters who are expected to attend the PaulFest the day/night before the convention.

Thoughts?

[Fifty-Six]

I thought Paul's chances were already washed away? To be honest I didn't even know he was still in the race... :P

[Sarah]

Seems almost impossible to me, I cannot even name the last time someone won the presidential nominee based on delegates voting not on the basis of primaries. The last and only one I can think of is Hubert Humphrey 1968 - and even that led to more reforms. His whole reliance on Super delegates is one I believe wont work unfortunately for him.

[sex]

i thought ron paul was transvestite with his own reality TV show?

but yeah i could have sworn that i read some where that romney already has it in the bag no matter what?

[Sarah]

He pretty much has, as most delegates vote along the lines of the primaries. He has taken 41 States, with Ron Paul only taking 3. All the other candidates have dropped out. Mitt Romney has taken ten more states than John McCain did in 2008; its pretty much a sure thing.

[-:Undertaker:-]

He pretty much has, as most delegates vote along the lines of the primaries. He has taken 41 States, with Ron Paul only taking 3. All the other candidates have dropped out. Mitt Romney has taken ten more states than John McCain did in 2008; its pretty much a sure thing.

It's not what the states voted though, its the delegates that matter - and Paul apparently has the plurality in five states already.

The real delegate count (http://thereal2012delegatecount.com/) is apparently the accurate count, Romney is ahead for sure but who knows what 'sleeper' Paulites who are offically Romney/Santorum delegates will do? I won't hold my breath, but at least it's slowly but surely staging a takeover of the GOP even if 2012 may be out of the picture.

I myself have no idea what will happen, i'm of course in the hope that something will - but I haven't a clue, could be nothing.

[Sarah]

It's not what the states voted though, its the delegates that matter - and Paul apparently has the plurality in five states already.

The real delegate count (http://thereal2012delegatecount.com/) is apparently the accurate count, Romney is ahead for sure but who knows what 'sleeper' Paulites who are offically Romney/Santorum delegates will do? I won't hold my breath, but at least it's slowly but surely staging a takeover of the GOP even if 2012 may be out of the picture.

I myself have no idea what will happen, i'm of course in the hope that something will - but I haven't a clue, could be nothing.

I am aware that delegates are not bound my state primary results like the way in which the electoral college votes work. I dont however see someone who had won only 3 primaries coming in and sneaking it with delegates - he may get more delegates than his turnout of primary votes yeah but he will most definitely not win. Its definitely a do or die situation for the tea party - especially with the likes of Bachman and Santorum failing. It'll be an interesting convention but no doubt I think Obama will smash Mitt Romney - at least with Ron Paul it would of been more entertaining!

[dbgtz]

I'm a bit disgusted with anyone who voted Romney. If only Paul would win.

[HotelUser]

Mitt Romney will represent the Republicans, and Obama will win a second term as president.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Mitt Romney will represent the Republicans, and Obama will win a second term as president.


And what are tommorows lottery numbers?

[Puma!]

Mitt Romney will represent the Republicans, and Obama will win a second term as president.
Nailed on. Too many Republicans don't like Romney - too left-wing.

[GommeInc]

And what are tommorows lottery numbers?
It's a reasonable guess really, Romney seems ignored by quite a lot of Republicans and Americans in general. Americans find Republicans a bit stupid in their behaviour. Ron Paul is an exception, but no one talks about him because he isn't stupid and therefore doesn't fit the main criteria for being a Republican :P

[Grig]

with unemployment this high, it could be anyone's game. It's foolish to say Obama will win another term at this moment.

[Ras]

Sadly Obama will probably win again.
The problem is he's VERY great at doing his job. Not from the peoples perspective, but from his fellow suits and richmen.

If the world is going to be a better place Ron Paul is the first step.
The illusion of democrat/republican should by now have sunken into peoples heads.
The only reason people aren't questioning the leaders is because they believe it might change with a "new" office. But take a look at history.. Whether democrat or republican they always follow a trend, and you can easily draw a red line between the presidents that had the time to leave office again (RIP KENNEDY!!).

Ron Paul wont win though. And it's because he doesn't support the wars and USA acting as the world police. Even if he won he would get assassinated before he could enter office. Actually Ron Paul won EVERY online poll I found when he was active, while the TV said he got less than 5% in pretty much every state. Who to trust? Internet or media? I know what I trust.

From second world war till now USA has bombed over 20 different countries. If you're familiar with Central Banks let me remind you that EVERY country in the world EXCEPT 3 have a Rothschild Central Bank. And coincidentally the countries that has gotten these Rothschild Central Banks are the same ones on USA's CV of bombing, war & terror (lol terror).
To put this in perspective; in 2000 seven countries didn't have this Rothschild Central Bank. It was Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Cuba, North Korea & Iran. Now only Cuba, North Korea and Iran remain, while the other countries are slowly building up their debt to America through this corrupt system. (Just to be clear, Sudan followed the others after 9/11 and weren't much involved in anything).

Alone USA's defence budget is MUCH larger than the 10 "runner-ups" combined, which should be of concern. I know there is a geographical and demographical difference, but as you hopefully know these countries do include Russia, China, Germany, Brazil and so on.
Obama has passed INSANE laws such as the martial law, updates to the NDAA about indefinite detention and torture under suspicion of terror (which is a very bendable term, if you understand; no trial needed - only the word of a rich enough suit)

Not sure what I'm trying to say.. Probably just don't have as much faith in those politicians you fancy, as they rule the country for a paycheck and not for the wellbeing of the citizens.

I'll end this post on a great quote by a great fighter of freedom:
If you're not careful, the newspapers [media] will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.

There's two sides to a story. Obama and his army are as big terrorists as the ones you point fingers at.
Not justifying any American lives taken, just saying it's an embarrassment to the world to mourn over those, and not care about the civil lives lost in the "war against terror" - oh the irony of terrorism.
Lastly did you know NATO expect and aim to have less than 10% civil kills when bombing. ugh.

[FiftyCal]

What makes me sick is that Ron Paul supporters are being paid to hold signs for mitt romney. If they really love Ron Paul they would of denied that, but it's money... I guess they don't love their freedoms that much if they also support romney in a way.

Also if Romney or Obama wins and they decide to have NDAA Active and go door to door of peoples homes and detain them..

The weapon i have is an SKS and i'm going to purchase a chest rig for my stripper clips and 1000 rounds. Give me Liberty or death!

[HotelUser]

Sadly Obama will probably win again.
The problem is he's VERY great at doing his job. Not from the peoples perspective, but from his fellow suits and richmen.

If the world is going to be a better place Ron Paul is the first step.
The illusion of democrat/republican should by now have sunken into peoples heads.
The only reason people aren't questioning the leaders is because they believe it might change with a "new" office. But take a look at history.. Whether democrat or republican they always follow a trend, and you can easily draw a red line between the presidents that had the time to leave office again (RIP KENNEDY!!).

Ron Paul wont win though. And it's because he doesn't support the wars and USA acting as the world police. Even if he won he would get assassinated before he could enter office. Actually Ron Paul won EVERY online poll I found when he was active, while the TV said he got less than 5% in pretty much every state. Who to trust? Internet or media? I know what I trust.

From second world war till now USA has bombed over 20 different countries. If you're familiar with Central Banks let me remind you that EVERY country in the world EXCEPT 3 have a Rothschild Central Bank. And coincidentally the countries that has gotten these Rothschild Central Banks are the same ones on USA's CV of bombing, war & terror (lol terror).
To put this in perspective; in 2000 seven countries didn't have this Rothschild Central Bank. It was Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Cuba, North Korea & Iran. Now only Cuba, North Korea and Iran remain, while the other countries are slowly building up their debt to America through this corrupt system. (Just to be clear, Sudan followed the others after 9/11 and weren't much involved in anything).

Alone USA's defence budget is MUCH larger than the 10 "runner-ups" combined, which should be of concern. I know there is a geographical and demographical difference, but as you hopefully know these countries do include Russia, China, Germany, Brazil and so on.
Obama has passed INSANE laws such as the martial law, updates to the NDAA about indefinite detention and torture under suspicion of terror (which is a very bendable term, if you understand; no trial needed - only the word of a rich enough suit)

Not sure what I'm trying to say.. Probably just don't have as much faith in those politicians you fancy, as they rule the country for a paycheck and not for the wellbeing of the citizens.

I'll end this post on a great quote by a great fighter of freedom:
If you're not careful, the newspapers [media] will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.

There's two sides to a story. Obama and his army are as big terrorists as the ones you point fingers at.
Not justifying any American lives taken, just saying it's an embarrassment to the world to mourn over those, and not care about the civil lives lost in the "war against terror" - oh the irony of terrorism.
Lastly did you know NATO expect and aim to have less than 10% civil kills when bombing. ugh.

There are a vast majority of reasons which make Mitt Romney a bad candidate (I wont bother with fine details, the re-election campaign is good enough at pointing them out), but for the sole reason that if any Republican wins they would repeal Obama's health care bill, I'm rooting for Obama and statistically the votes are in his favour anyway.

After watching all the Republican debates I'm more likely to burst out laughing at the idea that some of them want to run for office, than I am to actually vote for them in the future if/when I have 'MERICAN citizenship.

[-:Undertaker:-]

There are a vast majority of reasons which make Mitt Romney a bad candidate (I wont bother with fine details, the re-election campaign is good enough at pointing them out), but for the sole reason that if any Republican wins they would repeal Obama's health care bill, I'm rooting for Obama and statistically the votes are in his favour anyway.

Well actually, if you weren't so locked in to the Republican Party vs Democratic Party theatre we're subjected to every four years, you'd actually notice (by looking at what they vote for rather than say) that Mitt Romney actually supports state mandated healthcare and introduced it in his home state.

But that wouldn't make the election drama seem as interesting would it? so it's much easier to pretend that it's those nasty Republicans who want to repeal the health care bill vs the glorious Obama who will save the sick and needy (as seen in the signature).


After watching all the Republican debates I'm more likely to burst out laughing at the idea that some of them want to run for office, than I am to actually vote for them in the future if/when I have 'MERICAN citizenship.

It does make me burst out laughing when people such as yourself rally against large corporations, but then support health care bills which force Americans to buy healthcare from large corporations (and no doubt you'll be surprised when heath care bills are jacked up due to this new monopoly being formed).

But hey, party politics as usual - no thought or looking at voting records required, just rhetoric based drivel!