New PC, need help!

[AlexHenry]

Hi there guys. Basically, I need a new computer. I want it to be really quick and to have really good graphics. I was really **** last time and spend £1000 on a new touch screen PC which had an internal graphics. I want to spend between £600 - £700 on a PC that has really good graphics - able to play Sims 3 and FSX. That's all I really need it for.
xxMATTGxx; do you know of any seeing as you play FSX?

[Recursion]

Build your own, base it on an ATI 7 series graphics card and an Intel Ivybridge i5 CPU.

If you can't build your own, get a Dell XPS computer from www.dell.co.uk

[AlexHenry]

Build your own, base it on an ATI 7 series graphics card and an Intel Ivybridge i5 CPU.

If you can't build your own, get a Dell XPS computer from www.dell.co.uk (http://www.dell.co.uk)

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=d00and01&model_id=alienware-x51&c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1 - Does this like a good PC and would it be able to play FSX and The Sims?

[mrwoooooooo]

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=d00and01&model_id=alienware-x51&c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1 - Does this like a good PC and would it be able to play FSX and The Sims?
yes, but not as well as it would if you built your own

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/Vortex-750-gaming-pc/

[AlexHenry]

not really

What PC would? Wahhhh. My budget is now up to £1000. . . .

---------- Post added 19-07-2012 at 06:21 PM ----------

Does this PC look good? http://www.johnlewis.com/231577576/Product.aspx

[scottish]

Could also try looking at OcUK Gaming systems http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=43&catid=2040

£650 for i3 and 545 seems a bit much imho.

Especially as it has no SSD, 4gb ram...

[AlexHenry]

Could also try looking at OcUK Gaming systems http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=43&catid=2040

£650 for i3 and 545 seems a bit much imho.

Especially as it has no SSD, 4gb ram...

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=d00amw01&model_id=alienware-aurora-r4&c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1 - What about this one? Only really want to buy from John Lewis or Dell / HP / Acer.

---------- Post added 19-07-2012 at 06:28 PM ----------


Could also try looking at OcUK Gaming systems http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=43&catid=2040

£650 for i3 and 545 seems a bit much imho.

Especially as it has no SSD, 4gb ram...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-248-OE&groupid=43&catid=2040&subcat=

[Recursion]

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=d00x8503&model_id=xps-8500&c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1

Alienware is overpriced.

[dbgtz]

Build your own. You'll regret not doing so.

[xxMATTGxx]

Try and build your own if possible.

[AlexHenry]

Try and build your own if possible.

I can't so can you recommend a good one to buy?

---------- Post added 19-07-2012 at 08:04 PM ----------


Build your own. You'll regret not doing so.

I can't. :(

[xxMATTGxx]

I can't so can you recommend a good one to buy?

---------- Post added 19-07-2012 at 08:04 PM ----------



I can't. :(

What's stopping you? :P

[AlexHenry]

What's stopping you? :P

I just don't know how to make one and I really just need a new one which will do what I need. Can you think of any which are good and graphics wise? :)

[scottish]

You'll never learn if you don't try ;)

[AlexHenry]

OMG WILL SOMEONE JUST RECOMMEND A GOOD FRICKIN COMPUTER WITH GOOD GRAPHICS??

[scottish]

A custom built one :O

[AlexHenry]

Omg I'm actually starting to cry here. Doesn't anyone know of any good PCs which are good enough for Sims and FSX which is online and already made. :(

[scottish]

depends really, as places like OcUK and Dell tend to make them as they're ordered, so technically would not be 'already made' :O

look at ocuk, basically everyone of them is capable if you put a decent graphics card in.

[AlexHenry]

Okay well you know what I mean Mr. Scottish. What are decent graphic cards and I only really want to order from PC World / John Lewis / HP / Dell etc.

[Tomm]

Why? PC World is terrible compared to OcUK.


Okay well you know what I mean Mr. Scottish. What are decent graphic cards and I only really want to order from PC World / John Lewis / HP / Dell etc.

[scottish]

Why only them?

[Tom]

Tbh, you should build your own! Then you can have custom specs (to an extent) :)

[xxMATTGxx]

Okay well you know what I mean Mr. Scottish. What are decent graphic cards and I only really want to order from PC World / John Lewis / HP / Dell etc.

You say you want a PC to be able to run Flight Simulator X and whatever else you want to run yeah? It would be better if you got a custom built PC that you built yourself. People on this forum can easily get all of the components from various of sites and then you just buy the thing. There is also a big range of guides that would help you put it together with ease.

If you don't want to seriously go down that route then it's probably best to go with a high-end Dell computer but custom built would be a better way for games like FSX. As then you can get he hardware and performance that would make the game run smoothly.

[AlexHenry]

Omg I can't build my own and I only want to buy from official stores because then if they go wrong, I can send them back. Please someone just find a PC ready to buy with good graphics to be able to play FSX and Sims.

[xxMATTGxx]

Omg I can't build my own and I only want to buy from official stores because then if they go wrong, I can send them back. Please someone just find a PC ready to buy with good graphics to be able to play FSX and Sims.

When I was younger I always got told that there was no such word as can't. You haven't even tried and you believe it's an impossible task to get the components and being able to put it together.

[Tom]

When I was younger I always got told that there was no such word as can't. You haven't even tried and you believe it's an impossible task to get the components and being able to put it together.

Not to mention, Google offers a vast amount of help.

[Recursion]

Omg I can't build my own and I only want to buy from official stores because then if they go wrong, I can send them back. Please someone just find a PC ready to buy with good graphics to be able to play FSX and Sims.

... I already linked you to a decent Dell machine well within your budget on the first page.

[xxMATTGxx]

Here's the link again since you missed it: http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=d00x8503&model_id=xps-8500&c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1

AlexHenry;

[AlexHenry]

Okay but is that one like really good for graphics - good enough to play Sims without stopping and clear and FSX?

[mrwoooooooo]

once again : http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/Vortex-750-gaming-pc/

change the graphics card to 1gb amd radeon hd6850

you get 3year warranty

[scottish]

You can send it back to any store, and all parts are covered by guarantees from both the store (i.e. ocuk) and manufacturer..

So that's no excuse for not making your own

Anyone can build a PC.

[AlexHenry]

AMD Radeon™ HD 7570 1GB DDR5 Graphics Card - is this a good graphics card?

[scottish]

68xx 69xx 78xx 79xx are the ATIs higher end cards.

[Stephen!]

Remember on these pre-build PC's upgrading the graphics card will void the warranty. Most of them have a warranty sticker on the side panel which you have to break in order to open them up.

[AlexHenry]

1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 545 - is that a good graphics card?

[Stephen!]

get this one

http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-Fusion-Thunderbird.html

[AlexHenry]

Oooh, like the look of that one.

1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 545
edit (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=d00and10&model_id=alienware-x51&c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&)


MEMORY
8GB 1333MHz (2x4GB) Dual Channel Memory

Are these specs any good?

[Stephen!]

The GT 545 is a low power card.

Memory is OK.

[dbgtz]

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/ is a good place to see if graphics cards and processors are any good.

[AlexHenry]

Thank you for that link, really like the look of the PC. Can you find a good PC on the dell site / HP site / John Lewis that has good graphics. I am defo going to rep you all haha. :P

---------- Post added 19-07-2012 at 09:21 PM ----------


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---------- Post added 19-07-2012 at 09:25 PM ----------

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---------- Post added 19-07-2012 at 09:32 PM ----------

Might just get an iMac? xxMATTGxx; scottish; Stephen; dbgtz;

[xxMATTGxx]

If you want an iMac you get an iMac but good luck at playing the games you listed before.

[dbgtz]

Thank you for that link, really like the look of the PC. Can you find a good PC on the dell site / HP site / John Lewis that has good graphics. I am defo going to rep you all haha. :P

---------- Post added 19-07-2012 at 09:21 PM ----------


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---------- Post added 19-07-2012 at 09:25 PM ----------

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---------- Post added 19-07-2012 at 09:32 PM ----------

Might just get an iMac? xxMATTGxx; scottish; Stephen; dbgtz;

I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about hardware, but those specs seem decent. Never get a Mac though.

[AlexHenry]

If you want an iMac you get an iMac but good luck at playing the games you listed before.

Haha what about the specs about the other PC custom made?

[scottish]

Specs are decent on that chillblast, but can honestly say I've never heard of the company chillblast...

[Stephen!]

Many of their systems feature in PC Pro magazine.

[mrwoooooooo]

so you've upped your budget by £300? okay then...

and no it doesnt have wireless, which is why its telling you you'll need to add a wireless networking card

[AlexHenry]

so you've upped your budget by £300? okay then...

and no it doesnt have wireless, which is why its telling you you'll need to add a wireless networking card

Why wouldn't a state of the art PC have wireless?

[xxMATTGxx]

Why wouldn't a state of the art PC have wireless?

A lot of the time desktop computers are near routers or ethernet ports so that they can used wired connections. If you want to add wireless connectivity yourself, you can do.

[mrwoooooooo]

Why wouldn't a state of the art PC have wireless?

because its a gaming pc, ideally for a gaming pc you will use ethernet as it will reduce latency.