What a joke.

[Jarkie]

Firstly I want to say a huge congrats to Red; for coming second aka first.

This room comp thing is such a joke, that maze room won it again, while with the teen party, some spooky maze type game and some boring role playing room... It's like what the hell.

Paul and whoever else won't fix this. I think people who plan to enter these if you just want the badge then just get the three required furni.

/rant

[Samantha]

Wow. Who were top 10 owners pls Im on my phone ill rep u. It is a joke.

[Red]

Thanks Jamie!!! I agree it is an absolute joke! I knew the results were going to be full of the popular rooms. So many of them had entered and I knew there was if any about two places for legit rooms to win. I had to campaign so hard for votes. Kyle ran a giveaway for me today, I asked random people doing giveaways to link to my room, which they were kind enough to do, I pestered the life out of everyone on my friend list, and on here. My only saving grace was that they released the quests a day early and I was able to keep my room at full capacity for about eight hours. (stayed up all night omg) Never entering one of those comps again. It was more hard work than it was worth lmao. Thanks to everyone who voted, or spent hours trying to get me votes. LY <3

[Futz]

that sentance made me proper laugh <3
@samanfa

[sex]

Yayyyyyyyyy well done. He needs to sort it out but he has too much of a big ego to go back on his word or admit he is wrong

[Kyle]

If Paul LaFontaine wasn't so busy parading around on twitter with silly avatars his fangirls send him perhaps he would actually have time take notice of what is wrong and at least make an attempt to fix it before discarding the idea completely. The issue was brought up on twitter a few days ago and habbos who try to draw attention to some of the issues surrounding the comp (namely the fake giveaways) were met with replies like this:

http://i46.tinypic.com/28mllab.png

I would say that this was disgraceful behaviour from a CEO of a company but I wouldn't want a snide retort from Big Paul like this:
http://i47.tinypic.com/24n35hk.png

The conversation ended abruptly when Paul threw his dolls out of the pram with threats to completely remove the room competition as it doesn't appear to cater to a wide enough audience.

All that is needed is a smidgen of staff interaction. What trouble is it really to ask somebody to patrol rooms to see if 1. they have the correct furni 2. they fit the description and aren't just a party or boost room with some new furni in and, 3. THEY HAVENT WON BEFORE WITH THE EXACT SAME ROOM.

[Red]

1. g.c magic
2. red
3. revolver
4. Sunny55!
5. Astronomist
6. Milkyman
7. Rabbit
8. Travis!
9. ShaunDreclin
10. Financier
Samanfa;

[Fifty-Six]

I thought Paul said he was going to end this? g.c.magic's death run one again.. was barely even savanna themed. Same with Financier who entered the White House. I agree, this is a joke.

[FlyingJesus]

Obviously I'm not a huge presence on the hotel these days, but this has been a problem ever since public voting for competitions was implemented - which must be what, 8 years ago now AT LEAST? You'd think in all that time they'd think of some way to get around these problems, especially since public votes came about as a supposed "solution" to the problem of staff favouritism in the reallllllly old comps. How difficult is it to see that a mix of both is necessary, or at least some appropriate moderation of entries?

[Fifty-Six]

If Paul LaFontaine wasn't so busy parading around on twitter with silly avatars his fangirls send him perhaps he would actually have time take notice of what is wrong and at least make an attempt to fix it before discarding the idea completely. The issue was brought up on twitter a few days ago and habbos who try to draw attention to some of the issues surrounding the comp (namely the fake giveaways) were met with replies like this:

http://i46.tinypic.com/28mllab.png

I would say that this was disgraceful behaviour from a CEO of a company but I wouldn't want a snide retort from Big Paul like this:
http://i47.tinypic.com/24n35hk.png

The conversation ended abruptly when Paul threw his dolls out of the pram with threats to completely remove the room competition as it doesn't appear to cater to a wide enough audience.

All that is needed is a smidgen of staff interaction. What trouble is it really to ask somebody to patrol rooms to see if 1. they have the correct furni 2. they fit the description and aren't just a party or boost room with some new furni in and, 3. THEY HAVENT WON BEFORE WITH THE EXACT SAME ROOM.

Completely agree with you. Three quarters of his most recent tweets have only been responses about his "bacon hair" and other random idiocy. He hasn't been responding to questions, issues, serious things within Habbo.

Here are a few more where Paul apparently "hates" room competitions. Don't know why it's so difficult for them to quickly review entries... there can't be that many. All they have to do is scan them and make sure they actually have Savanna furniture in them and aren't just boosting rooms or the White House (cough Financier cough).

http://i45.tinypic.com/2pzlf7a.png
http://i48.tinypic.com/2qrzg9g.png

Paul seems pretty anti-room comps...

[karter]

http://i50.tinypic.com/f00v48.png

notice how financier is complaining but then he entered his white house in the comp and won? how funny

anyways, the staff-judged competitions are not returning, not under paul lafo at least. he is not ready to employ people to choose competition winners. so either room competitions are not coming back or it will be a more complex set up probably, but it will be voting based that is for sure. (or they will give the responsibility to fansites, which is even worse imo)

http://i45.tinypic.com/zonkn.png
http://i47.tinypic.com/2hnno2b.png

[Odette]

If Paul LaFontaine wasn't so busy parading around on twitter with silly avatars his fangirls send him perhaps he would actually have time take notice of what is wrong and at least make an attempt to fix it before discarding the idea completely. The issue was brought up on twitter a few days ago and habbos who try to draw attention to some of the issues surrounding the comp (namely the fake giveaways) were met with replies like this:

http://i46.tinypic.com/28mllab.png

I would say that this was disgraceful behaviour from a CEO of a company but I wouldn't want a snide retort from Big Paul like this:
http://i47.tinypic.com/24n35hk.png

The conversation ended abruptly when Paul threw his dolls out of the pram with threats to completely remove the room competition as it doesn't appear to cater to a wide enough audience.

All that is needed is a smidgen of staff interaction. What trouble is it really to ask somebody to patrol rooms to see if 1. they have the correct furni 2. they fit the description and aren't just a party or boost room with some new furni in and, 3. THEY HAVENT WON BEFORE WITH THE EXACT SAME ROOM.That is shocking! The sulake board needs to get rid of Paul for good. He is beyond rude and so condescending towards habbo users, it's actually hard to believe. He is single-handedly running habbo in to the ground with his twitter antics and questionable behaviour... He a complete joke. I wouldn't be surprised if he knows he's in danger of losing his job, hence the aggressive tweets.

[Abdicators]

It's disheartening to see so much hate for Paul. Paul has done alot of things with user interest in mind;



Users wanted more competitions, so he brought them.
Users wanted more badges; more were added.
Users wanted compensation for the mute; compensation was given.
Users wanted visible in the hotel; moderators were told to actively patrol rooms
Users wanted tighter moderation; tighter moderation was provided
Users wanted Hobba scheme back; guardians introduced
Users wanted rares back; LTD rares were brought out
Users wanted more games; more games were added and Sulake even partnered with 3rd party game developers to bring MORE games.



And yet even through all of that, you all attack his actions without an ounce of decency or constructive criticism. How were some of you guys brought up, I mean really. There is a visible difference between


Ffs, Paul you ****** up again. Some **** rooms I dont like are winning the competition because they're popular and mine arent Habbo isn't fair. I'm going to quit, you should be fired you dip ****

and


Hey Paul, bit unhappy with some of the winners in the latest competitions. Could you possibly think of a way to rethink how these rooms are judged? Cheers

Some of you sicken me really. The only people who think he is in a position to lose his job are the ones attacking him. Sulake was in real financial trouble before Paul even started, and before the Channel 4 report hit they were doing great. Paul had started to make them a huge profit.

The Channel Four report has had no impact on Pauls standing as CEO, because these problems were around long before he out-sourced moderation. Infact, if you read the media every journalist under the sun is impressed with the action he took, and his active communication with you guys on twitter. How many of you before Paul, had actually talked to any CEO and had any impact on a product making millions of pounds each year?

Cut him some slack, some of you are acting like children.

[Fifty-Six]

It's disheartening to see so much hate for Paul. Paul has done alot of things with user interest in mind;



Users wanted more competitions, so he brought them.
Users wanted more badges; more were added.
Users wanted compensation for the mute; compensation was given.
Users wanted visible in the hotel; moderators were told to actively patrol rooms
Users wanted tighter moderation; tighter moderation was provided
Users wanted Hobba scheme back; guardians introduced
Users wanted rares back; LTD rares were brought out
Users wanted more games; more games were added and Sulake even partnered with 3rd party game developers to bring MORE games.



And yet even through all of that, you all attack his actions without an ounce of decency or constructive criticism. How were some of you guys brought up, I mean really. There is a visible difference between



and



Some of you sicken me really. The only people who think he is in a position to lose his job are the ones attacking him. Sulake was in real financial trouble before Paul even started, and before the Channel 4 report hit they were doing great. Paul had started to make them a huge profit.

The Channel Four report has had no impact on Pauls standing as CEO, because these problems were around long before he out-sourced moderation. Infact, if you read the media every journalist under the sun is impressed with the action he took, and his active communication with you guys on twitter. How many of you before Paul, had actually talked to any CEO and had any impact on a product making millions of pounds each year?

Cut him some slack, some of you are acting like children.

Where are those quotes from? :S Confused..

[Abdicators]

Quotes are examples to not single users out. I'm not in to targeting and attacking a person.

[Abdicators]

Wont let me edit my post.

To whoever negative repped my above post with the reason "sup suckup" and for all those that are thinking the same. Know this.

There is a grand difference between sucking up to some one, and having respect for some one in their position. He is in a highly paid job, doing something very few CEOs actually do; conversing with active users of his product and making decisions based solely on their input.

i'd rather be called a suck-up for defending some one I hold respect for, than be like who ever negative repped me because i'm angry that a decision didn't go my way. I'm man enough to say 'Well, perhaps what happened was better for the other three hundred or so million users'

[karter]

^ I somewhat agree with you. He does not deserve so much hate just because he changed his profile picture?? :S but he is sometimes a little ill-mannered. i don't agree with these though:



Users wanted compensation for the mute; compensation was given.


1 week VIP and a trophy which by the way everyone has is not a nice compensation for a whole month of mute


Users wanted tighter moderation; tighter moderation was provided


A highly inefficient moderation which resulted in hundreds of unfair bans.



Users wanted rares back; LTD rares were brought out


Yes, along with unfair timings for Australian/SG Habbos and wrong release timings


I personally think his decisions have improved after the channel 4 incident, before that he seemed really arrogant. It's nice to see that he listened to people and the new competition set up is getting removed.

[Abdicators]

You're right. Some of his replies aren't always great, but if you look at the amount of **** that trolls through his feed you can sort of understand why. You'd have to have the patience of a god to wade through it all and not come out on the otherside smelling of roses.

I agree with the timing of the limited rares, it was a good idea that was executed poorly. Its hard to do something like that though when there is such a huge difference in time zones.

On your other points though. Look at it from a business angle, 5 days of vip (which you can buy on http://habbo.com/credits ) is worth $1. In total across the hotel, that's at least $50,000 (assuming 50,000 users logged on across the mute) worth of subscription they gave away for free. And, on top of that they gave existing VIP users a full extra month. Habbo VIP is 25c, and 25c costs $5. So even if we say only 20,000 VIP users logged in across the mute period, that's another $100,000 subscription they have given away for free. That is alot of money.

To say hundreds of unjustified bans is probably an over exaggeration, there was a few; but there is in any service. Habbo isn't a product targeted at audiences of 18+ users who are happy to share their personal details. Habbo is targetted at young users who need to be protected, not only because alot of them are easily led, but because it's the law. If you're being banned by automod you just need to be more careful with your words.

[Michael]

g.c.magic has one of the ugliest mazes ive ever seen too! and what the hell is with a dating club and a police station?

[MKR&*42]

I will reply later because I want to type a huge reply...videally not on a mobile. All ill say for now, is that why the heck is he so opposed to manual systems.. :l

[Jarkie]

Wow. Who were top 10 owners pls Im on my phone ill rep u. It is a joke.

I shall look forward to that rep! ;)


Thanks Jamie!!! I agree it is an absolute joke! I knew the results were going to be full of the popular rooms. So many of them had entered and I knew there was if any about two places for legit rooms to win. I had to campaign so hard for votes. Kyle ran a giveaway for me today, I asked random people doing giveaways to link to my room, which they were kind enough to do, I pestered the life out of everyone on my friend list, and on here. My only saving grace was that they released the quests a day early and I was able to keep my room at full capacity for about eight hours. (stayed up all night omg) Never entering one of those comps again. It was more hard work than it was worth lmao. Thanks to everyone who voted, or spent hours trying to get me votes. LY <3

Thats ok Red, out of all the rooms that are in the Top ten, you're room should of been in first place. And indeed I agree, when I was trying for the Egyptian comp, it was so hard, and I barely slept just to gain votes. Thankfully I entered it when it really wasn't overrun by boosting rooms, etc. And aye, I wont be even trying to enter till this is fixed.


Yayyyyyyyyy well done. He needs to sort it out but he has too much of a big ego to go back on his word or admit he is wrong

Hahaa indeed, and as soon as you tell him something is going wrong etc, he goes all stressy or just blocks you, so its like WTH?!


If Paul LaFontaine wasn't so busy parading around on twitter with silly avatars his fangirls send him perhaps he would actually have time take notice of what is wrong and at least make an attempt to fix it before discarding the idea completely. The issue was brought up on twitter a few days ago and habbos who try to draw attention to some of the issues surrounding the comp (namely the fake giveaways) were met with replies like this:

http://i46.tinypic.com/28mllab.png

I would say that this was disgraceful behaviour from a CEO of a company but I wouldn't want a snide retort from Big Paul like this:
http://i47.tinypic.com/24n35hk.png

The conversation ended abruptly when Paul threw his dolls out of the pram with threats to completely remove the room competition as it doesn't appear to cater to a wide enough audience.

All that is needed is a smidgen of staff interaction. What trouble is it really to ask somebody to patrol rooms to see if 1. they have the correct furni 2. they fit the description and aren't just a party or boost room with some new furni in and, 3. THEY HAVENT WON BEFORE WITH THE EXACT SAME ROOM.

For someone who is meant to be head of such a huge company, he acts quite babyish, I know some users that message him are youngish, but most are normally aged 16-21 that message him. What he doesn't see if that we the PLAYERS are trying to report a system broken. Perhaps if they got proper testers or something, all this could be avoided.. even the 'new' walls had glitches.

About your Patrol thing, that would of worked so well.. (Maybe!) or even a selected few users to go and see all the rooms. He also moaned about that the staff he has will take up to '25%' of their time checking rooms.. its like LOL what, they still get paid just to visit rooms.. how hard is that?!?


1. g.c magic
2. red
3. revolver
4. Sunny55!
5. Astronomist
6. Milkyman
7. Rabbit
8. Travis!
9. ShaunDreclin
10. Financier
@Samanfa (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=68263);

Here is a quick view of the rooms that should NOT of been in top ten.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t83/jarkie/no-1.png


I thought Paul said he was going to end this? g.c.magic's death run one again.. was barely even savanna themed. Same with Financier who entered the White House. I agree, this is a joke.

Aye he did, but he wont lol cos he knows there will be people out there spending loads on a room so for him he just sees $$$.


Obviously I'm not a huge presence on the hotel these days, but this has been a problem ever since public voting for competitions was implemented - which must be what, 8 years ago now AT LEAST? You'd think in all that time they'd think of some way to get around these problems, especially since public votes came about as a supposed "solution" to the problem of staff favouritism in the reallllllly old comps. How difficult is it to see that a mix of both is necessary, or at least some appropriate moderation of entries?

Sulake staff wont ever know, no matter how many times they do a competition. Perhaps if they hired people who have played it before, things could be different? Who knows.


Completely agree with you. Three quarters of his most recent tweets have only been responses about his "bacon hair" and other random idiocy. He hasn't been responding to questions, issues, serious things within Habbo.

Here are a few more where Paul apparently "hates" room competitions. Don't know why it's so difficult for them to quickly review entries... there can't be that many. All they have to do is scan them and make sure they actually have Savanna furniture in them and aren't just boosting rooms or the White House (cough Financier cough).

http://i45.tinypic.com/2pzlf7a.png
http://i48.tinypic.com/2qrzg9g.png

Paul seems pretty anti-room comps...

Haha wow, why is it when people arent like.. 'WE LOVE YOU PAUL xoxox', he gets all stressy. all he has to do is get his team of coders to fix it.


http://i50.tinypic.com/f00v48.png

notice how financier is complaining but then he entered his white house in the comp and won? how funny

anyways, the staff-judged competitions are not returning, not under paul lafo at least. he is not ready to employ people to choose competition winners. so either room competitions are not coming back or it will be a more complex set up probably, but it will be voting based that is for sure. (or they will give the responsibility to fansites, which is even worse imo)

http://i45.tinypic.com/zonkn.png
http://i47.tinypic.com/2hnno2b.png

All he has to do is get some volunteers that play Habbo, i know loads of people who would do it. lol.


g.c.magic has one of the ugliest mazes ive ever seen too! and what the hell is with a dating club and a police station?

Its only going to get worse. and Aye, its like what the hell.


It's disheartening to see so much hate for Paul. Paul has done alot of things with user interest in mind;



Users wanted more competitions, so he brought them.
Users wanted more badges; more were added.
Users wanted compensation for the mute; compensation was given.
Users wanted visible in the hotel; moderators were told to actively patrol rooms
Users wanted tighter moderation; tighter moderation was provided
Users wanted Hobba scheme back; guardians introduced
Users wanted rares back; LTD rares were brought out
Users wanted more games; more games were added and Sulake even partnered with 3rd party game developers to bring MORE games.



And yet even through all of that, you all attack his actions without an ounce of decency or constructive criticism. How were some of you guys brought up, I mean really. There is a visible difference between



Theres not so much 'hate' for him, its just when users try to point out problems to him, he turns into a right kid and has a strop and goes on a mass blocking rampage. Yes he has brought that stuff back; however he just doesn't seem to be seeing how it plays out. Yes he has improved moderation, but I haven't seen a moderator in a room since after a week of this 'patrol' thing.


I will reply later because I want to type a huge reply...videally not on a mobile. All ill say for now, is that why the heck is he so opposed to manual systems.. :l

lol I made this thread on my phone, perhaps you should of waited till you was on the computer to make a proper reply? and I dont know he seems to like everything auto atm.

[sex]

I'm so happy the user "dis" didn't event make it to the top ten!! She copied the death maze and then spammed people's rooms saying she was hosting a giveaway! She just wanted a popular room hehe

[Samantha]

Paul was an ignorant **** in council too, some things never change. It has to suit him. Don't say it's only those who didn't wib or those who pines for votes as I don't really care about the competition but if you're not going to have the interaction bring the hotel manager back WHICH WAS SAID as I remember the news article about it.

[lawrawrrr]

You can tell Paul's getting very fed up with the childish 'omg go to hell you suck' comments... it's not difficult to be mature. I completely agree with Abdicators; in this thread - yeah, it's unfair, but because too many kids throw their toys out of the pram, Paul's getting fed up and has completely taken it to extreme.

Is he replying to DMs any more? I might send him a nicely worded one.

[Jarkie]

Is he replying to DMs any more? I might send him a nicely worded one.

Yea he is to some people, he tends to ignore alot of them though.

[MKR&*42]

I shall look forward to that rep! ;)



Thats ok Red, out of all the rooms that are in the Top ten, you're room should of been in first place. And indeed I agree, when I was trying for the Egyptian comp, it was so hard, and I barely slept just to gain votes. Thankfully I entered it when it really wasn't overrun by boosting rooms, etc. And aye, I wont be even trying to enter till this is fixed.



Hahaa indeed, and as soon as you tell him something is going wrong etc, he goes all stressy or just blocks you, so its like WTH?!



For someone who is meant to be head of such a huge company, he acts quite babyish, I know some users that message him are youngish, but most are normally aged 16-21 that message him. What he doesn't see if that we the PLAYERS are trying to report a system broken. Perhaps if they got proper testers or something, all this could be avoided.. even the 'new' walls had glitches.

About your Patrol thing, that would of worked so well.. (Maybe!) or even a selected few users to go and see all the rooms. He also moaned about that the staff he has will take up to '25%' of their time checking rooms.. its like LOL what, they still get paid just to visit rooms.. how hard is that?!?



Here is a quick view of the rooms that should NOT of been in top ten.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t83/jarkie/no-1.png



Aye he did, but he wont lol cos he knows there will be people out there spending loads on a room so for him he just sees $$$.



Sulake staff wont ever know, no matter how many times they do a competition. Perhaps if they hired people who have played it before, things could be different? Who knows.



Haha wow, why is it when people arent like.. 'WE LOVE YOU PAUL xoxox', he gets all stressy. all he has to do is get his team of coders to fix it.



All he has to do is get some volunteers that play Habbo, i know loads of people who would do it. lol.



Its only going to get worse. and Aye, its like what the hell.



Theres not so much 'hate' for him, its just when users try to point out problems to him, he turns into a right kid and has a strop and goes on a mass blocking rampage. Yes he has brought that stuff back; however he just doesn't seem to be seeing how it plays out. Yes he has improved moderation, but I haven't seen a moderator in a room since after a week of this 'patrol' thing.



lol I made this thread on my phone, perhaps you should of waited till you was on the computer to make a proper reply? and I dont know he seems to like everything auto atm.

I am home now so you can have this huge reply ok xx I had like a min before work and this thread just looked so damn appealing ;l so I replied ok xx. Big reply;


If Paul LaFontaine wasn't so busy parading around on twitter with silly avatars his fangirls send him perhaps he would actually have time take notice of what is wrong and at least make an attempt to fix it before discarding the idea completely. The issue was brought up on twitter a few days ago and habbos who try to draw attention to some of the issues surrounding the comp (namely the fake giveaways) were met with replies like this:

http://i46.tinypic.com/28mllab.png

I would say that this was disgraceful behaviour from a CEO of a company but I wouldn't want a snide retort from Big Paul like this:
http://i47.tinypic.com/24n35hk.png

The conversation ended abruptly when Paul threw his dolls out of the pram with threats to completely remove the room competition as it doesn't appear to cater to a wide enough audience.

All that is needed is a smidgen of staff interaction. What trouble is it really to ask somebody to patrol rooms to see if 1. they have the correct furni 2. they fit the description and aren't just a party or boost room with some new furni in and, 3. THEY HAVENT WON BEFORE WITH THE EXACT SAME ROOM.

I'm not going to attack the guy over changing his avatar haha. It takes like 5 mins... or idk how you do it on Twitter :l but it's something simple and not really causing a huge loss of time :L I think some of the words being used are slightly over-exaggerated. (It's a virtual game, "Tragic" is a bit far ? no?) but I would say it is a very unfair, flawed and un-moderated system. I think it was foolish to simply say "scrap this system" considering it is a decent system IF a) Staff moderated it and b) if people couldn't vote via characters on the same ID. Him saying it doesn't cater for a wide enough audience is the biggest load of crap I have EVER read. It appears as a pop up when you go into rooms on Habbo, it is all over twitter, all over fansites, on the damn hotel view... how does it not cater for people when all you require is 3 different furniture items in a suitably themed room (Doesnt have to be humongous...).



http://i50.tinypic.com/f00v48.png

notice how financier is complaining but then he entered his white house in the comp and won? how funny

anyways, the staff-judged competitions are not returning, not under paul lafo at least. he is not ready to employ people to choose competition winners. so either room competitions are not coming back or it will be a more complex set up probably, but it will be voting based that is for sure. (or they will give the responsibility to fansites, which is even worse imo)

http://i45.tinypic.com/zonkn.png
http://i47.tinypic.com/2hnno2b.png

Brilliant. Discarding a system because it's from 2001 apparently? Ok let's wave goodbye to moderators. We dont need them cause they're from 2001!!!! and lets just discard any form of staff event, thats from 2001 as well omg omg. The man is an idiot at times, saying that because a system is from 2001 it is flawed. It was never broke so there was no need to "fix" it. The only minor issue with staff judging competitions was that... I believe it was you karter pointed out that in 2 competitions, they had copied and pasted the first bunch of winners into the second bunch and then added 50 more.

I highly doubt he was on Habbo in 2001 so he really shouldn't comment like that.


It's disheartening to see so much hate for Paul. Paul has done alot of things with user interest in mind;



Users wanted more competitions, so he brought them.
Users wanted more badges; more were added.
Users wanted compensation for the mute; compensation was given.
Users wanted visible in the hotel; moderators were told to actively patrol rooms
Users wanted tighter moderation; tighter moderation was provided
Users wanted Hobba scheme back; guardians introduced
Users wanted rares back; LTD rares were brought out
Users wanted more games; more games were added and Sulake even partnered with 3rd party game developers to bring MORE games.



And yet even through all of that, you all attack his actions without an ounce of decency or constructive criticism. How were some of you guys brought up, I mean really. There is a visible difference between



and



Some of you sicken me really. The only people who think he is in a position to lose his job are the ones attacking him. Sulake was in real financial trouble before Paul even started, and before the Channel 4 report hit they were doing great. Paul had started to make them a huge profit.

The Channel Four report has had no impact on Pauls standing as CEO, because these problems were around long before he out-sourced moderation. Infact, if you read the media every journalist under the sun is impressed with the action he took, and his active communication with you guys on twitter. How many of you before Paul, had actually talked to any CEO and had any impact on a product making millions of pounds each year?

Cut him some slack, some of you are acting like children.

We wanted more badges? Did we? :S. As far as I'm concerned most of us were annoyed at how common badges became thus removing the point of them really because so many had them.

Tighter moderation - really? A limited chat is not moderation, it is a filtering system and nothing to do with moderation. Moderation is down to staff members and it has not improved at all. If anything it's got worse due to this silly Safety Patrol system which is causing hundreds of false bans;

"Touch my magic wand" incident :rolleyes:

Yes I'm not really sure why people have started complaining about games lol. Very hypocritical of them considering they begged for games such as BBall, SS, Wobble Squabble, Lido Diving and another one I forgot back. I agree with you there haha.

As for his introduction on the guardian system, I don't even know what's happening with it? Is it the stage called "Habbo Helper"... if so then that's just ludicrous. No age limit at all, no requirements. Don't get me wrong it's a brilliant idea to bring it back but there needs to be a lot more limits on who can enter into the system. Unless it's the next stage after Safety Patrol? If so then it's still insane because all people are doing is reporting which does not require a great deal of effort lol.

Nice idea, he's going about it the wrong way though.

I agree about the LTD Rares. Although I believe they went a bit hyped up over them to start with, they were a very good introduction. Much better than shoving an item in the catalogue for 25c which will drop to about 10c after it's removed lol :l. LTD Rares is a very good idea and if it wasn't for the AU/SG only having the time benefit twice, it would have been brilliant.

The problem with compensation is that once you offer VIP, a unique subscription service, to everyone it no longer becomes majorly important because almost everyone is VIP and therefore VIP becomes 'the norm' (ironically haha!). The trophy and badges were decent looking, but not tradeable and badges are far too common. I don't see why it's such a big issue to hand out assorted tradeable items to people so that the value isn't insanely low because more than 1 type of item is being released, and people can actually trade it/do stuff with it. ione did it way back in... hmm 2001/2002? not sure, so I don't see the issue. Sure the community is larger but that reduced dramatically during the time of the mute.

Ideally, when Paul became the CEO he *should* have noticed that moderation was an important issue and immediately act upon it, not make it 10 x worse by having them outsourced.

The points I didn't cover in your quote I also agree with haha :). I do think it's pathetic that so many kids are trolling him on Twitter and having to resort to curse words because their vocabulary is so limited :l Unfortunately you can't stop trolling and it really is a shame people continuously do it to those "well known" (inc. Paul).


Wont let me edit my post.

To whoever negative repped my above post with the reason "sup suckup" and for all those that are thinking the same. Know this.

There is a grand difference between sucking up to some one, and having respect for some one in their position. He is in a highly paid job, doing something very few CEOs actually do; conversing with active users of his product and making decisions based solely on their input.

i'd rather be called a suck-up for defending some one I hold respect for, than be like who ever negative repped me because i'm angry that a decision didn't go my way. I'm man enough to say 'Well, perhaps what happened was better for the other three hundred or so million users'

Quite simply, that doesn't make you a suck-up @The person who gave you -rep.

^ I somewhat agree with you. He does not deserve so much hate just because he changed his profile picture?? :S but he is sometimes a little ill-mannered. i don't agree with these though:



1 week VIP and a trophy which by the way everyone has is not a nice compensation for a whole month of mute


A highly inefficient moderation which resulted in hundreds of unfair bans.



Yes, along with unfair timings for Australian/SG Habbos and wrong release timings


I personally think his decisions have improved after the channel 4 incident, before that he seemed really arrogant. It's nice to see that he listened to people and the new competition set up is getting removed.

He is sort of listening more, although he does seem to be making snap decisions about the room voting comp thingys. Also agree with all the other points you made.


You're right. Some of his replies aren't always great, but if you look at the amount of **** that trolls through his feed you can sort of understand why. You'd have to have the patience of a god to wade through it all and not come out on the otherside smelling of roses.

I agree with the timing of the limited rares, it was a good idea that was executed poorly. Its hard to do something like that though when there is such a huge difference in time zones.

On your other points though. Look at it from a business angle, 5 days of vip (which you can buy on http://habbo.com/credits ) is worth $1. In total across the hotel, that's at least $50,000 (assuming 50,000 users logged on across the mute) worth of subscription they gave away for free. And, on top of that they gave existing VIP users a full extra month. Habbo VIP is 25c, and 25c costs $5. So even if we say only 20,000 VIP users logged in across the mute period, that's another $100,000 subscription they have given away for free. That is alot of money.

To say hundreds of unjustified bans is probably an over exaggeration, there was a few; but there is in any service. Habbo isn't a product targeted at audiences of 18+ users who are happy to share their personal details. Habbo is targetted at young users who need to be protected, not only because alot of them are easily led, but because it's the law. If you're being banned by automod you just need to be more careful with your words.

The ban issue is due to SOME Safety Patrol people (and just normal imbeciles tbh) false reporting people when they've done nothing wrong. People are getting banned for literally sitting down and not speaking, or otherwise being caught out by wired messages. It's extremely unfair and it does show moderation hasn't improved, whereas customer support has minorly and the replies are an awful lot quicker at customer support than a few months ago.

Only issue that gets dealt every single time with moderators is retro hotels. When I used to sit and talk to people in the welcome lounge, so many people came in advertising them and bloody flooding the screen so I just kept reporting the fools and the issue was always dealt with.


Paul was an ignorant **** in council too, some things never change. It has to suit him. Don't say it's only those who didn't wib or those who pines for votes as I don't really care about the competition but if you're not going to have the interaction bring the hotel manager back WHICH WAS SAID as I remember the news article about it.

Yes HM back please :)


You can tell Paul's getting very fed up with the childish 'omg go to hell you suck' comments... it's not difficult to be mature. I completely agree with @Abdicators (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=98000); in this thread - yeah, it's unfair, but because too many kids throw their toys out of the pram, Paul's getting fed up and has completely taken it to extreme.

Is he replying to DMs any more? I might send him a nicely worded one.

Oh idk why I quoted you Laura haha :) I pretty much agree about the comments filled with curse words and trolling on Twitter though.

mg done-

[Lewis]

It's disheartening to see so much hate for Paul. Paul has done alot of things with user interest in mind;



Users wanted more competitions, so he brought them.
Users wanted more badges; more were added.
Users wanted compensation for the mute; compensation was given.
Users wanted visible in the hotel; moderators were told to actively patrol rooms
Users wanted tighter moderation; tighter moderation was provided
Users wanted Hobba scheme back; guardians introduced
Users wanted rares back; LTD rares were brought out
Users wanted more games; more games were added and Sulake even partnered with 3rd party game developers to bring MORE games.



And yet even through all of that, you all attack his actions without an ounce of decency or constructive criticism. How were some of you guys brought up, I mean really. There is a visible difference between



and



Some of you sicken me really. The only people who think he is in a position to lose his job are the ones attacking him. Sulake was in real financial trouble before Paul even started, and before the Channel 4 report hit they were doing great. Paul had started to make them a huge profit.

The Channel Four report has had no impact on Pauls standing as CEO, because these problems were around long before he out-sourced moderation. Infact, if you read the media every journalist under the sun is impressed with the action he took, and his active communication with you guys on twitter. How many of you before Paul, had actually talked to any CEO and had any impact on a product making millions of pounds each year?

Cut him some slack, some of you are acting like children.


Absolutely agree!

[Red]

It's disheartening to see so much hate for Paul. Paul has done alot of things with user interest in mind;



Users wanted more competitions, so he brought them.
Users wanted more badges; more were added.
Users wanted compensation for the mute; compensation was given.
Users wanted visible in the hotel; moderators were told to actively patrol rooms
Users wanted tighter moderation; tighter moderation was provided
Users wanted Hobba scheme back; guardians introduced
Users wanted rares back; LTD rares were brought out
Users wanted more games; more games were added and Sulake even partnered with 3rd party game developers to bring MORE games.



And yet even through all of that, you all attack his actions without an ounce of decency or constructive criticism. How were some of you guys brought up, I mean really. There is a visible difference between



and



Some of you sicken me really. The only people who think he is in a position to lose his job are the ones attacking him. Sulake was in real financial trouble before Paul even started, and before the Channel 4 report hit they were doing great. Paul had started to make them a huge profit.

The Channel Four report has had no impact on Pauls standing as CEO, because these problems were around long before he out-sourced moderation. Infact, if you read the media every journalist under the sun is impressed with the action he took, and his active communication with you guys on twitter. How many of you before Paul, had actually talked to any CEO and had any impact on a product making millions of pounds each year?

Cut him some slack, some of you are acting like children.


He is so rude though it is unbelievable. He took competitions from us, saying pathetic comments like 'statistics show users want credits more than competitions.' Yes he brought them back, but in a half-hearted form. He was too lazy to even add one staff member to check the rooms were ok that won for this one. Instead he has a hissy fit and threatens to remove competitions again. He won't give us that staff interaction which we all desire. People want badges but I like badges that only a few people get. When all you have to go to a room, they become worthless and stupid. Great that he give us compensation, but we shouldn't have even been muted for that long. I want moderation and customer service who can string a sentence together. How is it right, that we are left to deal with the likes of Katharina. They are still outsourced to bloody costa rica or wherever they are based now. They have now gone from slack, to too heavy handed and the amount of unfair bans is unbelievable. Never wanted hobbas and I'm still opposed to them. Looks like a cheap alternative to getting proper trained staff in. The rares were good when they just did a few. They went overboard though and just killed them. As for games, the only ones I cared about was snowstorm and battle ball. They added a user voice forum and said they were going to update ss, which they haven't. Its crap in its current form. Where is making games with your friends etc? All the features, people actually care about aren't even in the new game.


Paul has done nothing to earn the respect for users. He replies to dms of fierycold and other 'famous' habbos, while the rest of us had to lump our bans with the AWFUL customer support we had. He ignores any negative feedback from his long term users and if he doesn't like something, you are blocked. Yes, he communicates with us there, but at the cost of any interaction on the hotel. I'd have that over twitter anyday.

[Nli.]

I don't play Habbo anymore, and have only visited recently in light of everything that's been going on in terms of the mute and so on.

Whilst I don't really understand how things such as the competitions work on the hotel anymore since I haven't really played since 2008 and it is very clear that people aren't happy with the way things are done anymore.

I'm not directly blaming Paul, but it seems since he took over from the "original" Sulake guys, it has gone down hill by bringing in his changes. And I can understand some of them such as the mergers, but practically bringing a somewhat automated service into practice isn't probably the best thing to do.

It's obvious that the way the hotel is currently being run isn't working compared to how it was before, I can't understand why someone would want to take away things that were working before and replace them in an attempt to make it better? such as the moderation, whilst some would argue there has always been an issue with some moderation.

Although I'm sure many would agree back when the moderators would actually communicate with other Habbos it had more of a personal feel to them and it worked a lot better than it does now.

For example some moderators even run fansites, since the outsourcing all of that and more has been removed. There's no real connection between the players and the staff anymore besides the whole social networking stuff they seem to be doing at the moment - which is a shambles.

Why change something when it worked perfectly well before, and I don't mean the hotel updates itself because that's always happened in Habbo but I mean with the way it's run the way things take place.

[Jarkie]

He is so rude though it is unbelievable. He took competitions from us, saying pathetic comments like 'statistics show users want credits more than competitions.' Yes he brought them back, but in a half-hearted form. He was too lazy to even add one staff member to check the rooms were ok that won for this one. Instead he has a hissy fit and threatens to remove competitions again. He won't give us that staff interaction which we all desire. People want badges but I like badges that only a few people get. When all you have to go to a room, they become worthless and stupid. Great that he give us compensation, but we shouldn't have even been muted for that long. I want moderation and customer service who can strong a sentence together. How is it right, that we are left to deal with the likes of Katharina. They are still outsourcer to bloody costa rica or wherever they are based now. They have now gone from slack, to too heavy handed and the amount of unfair bans is unbelievable. Never wanted hobbas and I'm still opposed to them. The rares were good when they just did a few. They went overboard though and just killed them. As for games, the only ones I cared about was snowstorm and battle ball. They added a user voice forum and said they were going to update ss, which they haven't. Its crap in its current form. Where is making games with your friends etc? All the features, people actually care about aren't even in the new game.


Paul has done nothing to earn the respect for users. He replays to dms of fiery cold and other 'famous' habbos, while the rest of us had to lump our bans with the AWFUL customer support we had. He ignores any negative feedback from his long term users and if he doesn't like something, you are blocked. Yes, he communicates with us there, but at the cost of any interaction on the hotel. I'd have that over twitter anyday.

This is an outstanding comment, red. I agree with pretty much everything you've said here. Rep+!

[Kyle]

I have a lot of a respect for the guy and no, I don't really think that changing his avatar is that much of a detriment but sometimes it does mean that he ignores tweets about things that really matter. The discussion of his radical new bacon hair went on for days and when asked to read a tweet about something serious that got lost amongst to "omfg cool hair who is ur stylist" tweets and he said something along the lines that he couldn't be bothered to find it. Fair enough, but he could at least have asked them to resend it so he could read it?

The trouble with Paul is that he seems to only take suggestions that echo changes that are already planned, much like a professional radio presenter would only read out a request for a song that's actually on their playlist. A lot of minor tweaks were suggested to make the voting system fairer and the one he called a good idea was this monstrosity:
http://i47.tinypic.com/16jq149.pngp
He would rather change the system completely, making it even more automatic, than just send a staff member or two in. He commented that "25%" of his staff would be used to "make 50 users happy". Now, I know the staff cuts at sulake have been pretty harsh, but are there really only four staff members? If so then that's pretty upsetting. I think that a lot more people would enter if they knew that the competition would be judged as fairly as possible, meaning many many more happy users.

Some of the changes are great, but when he doesn't budge at all when given suggestions for improvement then that is where my respect for him begins to waver. Of course it isn't in his remit to actually listen to his users' advice (some of which have experienced habbo since the beginning - but what would they know?!) but it would be nice if he did take some of the ideas that would actually work on board.

None of my tweets have been childish, all are as constructive as possible within the word limit. If you could tweet longer (and know that he would actually read it and take it on board) then I, and I'm sure many other users, would be happy to work with him to mend the voting system and help to make it a little fairer. We need some kind of competitions council! :)

[tm]

http://i46.tinypic.com/28mllab.png

That response annoyed me.

If I had phrased it: 'It's just a shame that so many noobs are being tricked so a few users can win badges they don't deserve.' I'm sure he would have either ignored the comment or replied to say how I shouldn't be calling people going to giveaways noobs. Instead I decided to use proper words that were absolutely applicable to the situation and he goes off on a rant towards me and others for using overly emotive behaviour. Sometimes you just can't win.

Anyway I'm actually here to post how I feel really sorry for Paul and how he's being treated. The man is not a community manager, he's not even customer service, he's a business manager. His job should be to run Sulake from the business side and not have to deal with the whiny rants regarding minor issues with competitions from myself or anyone else. He's put himself in the public firing line, perhaps that's NAIVE on his part to think he could handle it, but he is actually trying to pass on feedback and ideas from users. There have been a few positives from it. If the feedback regarding the competitions voting etc. does lead to a change as Paul said it would, then all credit to the guy. He also seems to be listening to issues regarding the account lock problems which desperately need attention.

So to conclude. I think we're right to be asking questions of him since that's what he asked for, but I think everyone has to remember that he isn't customer service staff nor has he any obligation to listen to what we have to say. I'd prefer to see a PR representative doing what he is doing in more of a 'hotel (/events) manager' type role in the future.

[Pigperson]

That is stupid how the maze wins. I hate this, it's just popularity and disregards how good the rooms are :S

Will

[Plebings]

He is so rude though it is unbelievable. He took competitions from us, saying pathetic comments like 'statistics show users want credits more than competitions.'

ahahahaha! did he really say that?? i'm sure his statistics team must be pretty challenged if they take on board suggestions like "u shud giv users 100c a month"

talking about statistics, i'd love to see the data on how fast this campaign furni is selling for, as much as i hate room building competitions, i can't see the stuff selling as fast without an incentive of badges. sure if they were in game or video competitions they waste staff's time, but i know loads of people who wouldn't have even touched the new range if there wasn't a competition.

would you have bought so much of this range if there wasn't a comp kirst?

[Tom]

"Let's go back to the old Habbo system... oh wait no that means more work! We're in 2012 now, less work ****** system, that's how it goes"

I feel like that's basically what he's saying. Well done anyway Kirst :D

[Red]

ahahahaha! did he really say that?? i'm sure his statistics team must be pretty challenged if they take on board suggestions like "u shud giv users 100c a month"

talking about statistics, i'd love to see the data on how fast this campaign furni is selling for, as much as i hate room building competitions, i can't see the stuff selling as fast without an incentive of badges. sure if they were in game or video competitions they waste staff's time, but i know loads of people who wouldn't have even touched the new range if there wasn't a competition.

would you have bought so much of this range if there wasn't a comp kirst?

Nope I rarely buy the new furni. I must have spent like 200c or more. However this was a really nice range and even though I am not entering the next one, ill buy some of it too! Even if it wastes time, they should be trying to make habbo as enjoyable as possible. I would love some real art, or writing contests. I never won the video ones but I loved entering them too. And yes he did actually say that. It was an actual you are a mong moment.

[Jarkie]

I know I wouldn't of touched the furni for the comp. And there is no way I am entering any more room comps till this voting system is fixed. (Which will be never!)

[Red]

That response annoyed me.

If I had phrased it: 'It's just a shame that so many noobs are being tricked so a few users can win badges they don't deserve.' I'm sure he would have either ignored the comment or replied to say how I shouldn't be calling people going to giveaways noobs. Instead I decided to use proper words that were absolutely applicable to the situation and he goes off on a rant towards me and others for using overly emotive behaviour. Sometimes you just can't win.

Anyway I'm actually here to post how I feel really sorry for Paul and how he's being treated. The man is not a community manager, he's not even customer service, he's a business manager. His job should be to run Sulake from the business side and not have to deal with the whiny rants regarding minor issues with competitions from myself or anyone else. He's put himself in the public firing line, perhaps that's NAIVE on his part to think he could handle it, but he is actually trying to pass on feedback and ideas from users. There have been a few positives from it. If the feedback regarding the competitions voting etc. does lead to a change as Paul said it would, then all credit to the guy. He also seems to be listening to issues regarding the account lock problems which desperately need attention.

So to conclude. I think we're right to be asking questions of him since that's what he asked for, but I think everyone has to remember that he isn't customer service staff nor has he any obligation to listen to what we have to say. I'd prefer to see a PR representative doing what he is doing in more of a 'hotel (/events) manager' type role in the future.

I was a bit in shock when he called you histrionic. I'm sorry but if a staff member is advocating scamming people as part of the comp, then that is disgraceful? And its disgraceful he doesn't think so. It's his own fault. He had perfectly good community staff like puffin and kitano who could have taken feedback from users.

[Mr.L.Darragh]

You've got to take into consideration guys, that while yes, people have spent loads if credits on making amazing rooms, and yes some might not have got close to winning. People want the badge for entering, therefore they enter a room with minimum requirements. It is not their fault if the room is popular and gets votes, however, yes they could perhaps make a new room. It is ridiculous to see people arguing over a competition, for a badge and giving threats. It is only a room, I can see how people get frustrated though, however, there is still no need for threats.

[Fifty-Six]

You've got to take into consideration guys, that while yes, people have spent loads if credits on making amazing rooms, and yes some might not have got close to winning. People want the badge for entering, therefore they enter a room with minimum requirements. It is not their fault if the room is popular and gets votes, however, yes they could perhaps make a new room. It is ridiculous to see people arguing over a competition, for a badge and giving threats. It is only a room, I can see how people get frustrated though, however, there is still no need for threats.

That's the issue though, people with popular rooms enter with minimal requirements knowing they will win Top 10, Top 100, solely because of their rooms popularity. That's what people are annoyed about. I think people should be mad about the way the two room competitions were handled. Paul was made aware of the voting issue right after results were posted, as is shown by all of the tweets in which he responded about stopping the comps, yet no changes were made to the actual process. Instead, he was parading around for "chat relaunch" parties with his supposedly amazing bacon hair.

[Mr.L.Darragh]

That's the issue though, people with popular rooms enter with minimal requirements knowing they will win Top 10, Top 100, solely because of their rooms popularity. That's what people are annoyed about. I think people should be mad about the way the two room competitions were handled. Paul was made aware of the voting issue right after results were posted, as is shown by all of the tweets in which he responded about stopping the comps, yet no changes were made to the actual process. Instead, he was parading around for "chat relaunch" parties with his supposedly amazing bacon hair.

Yeah, I totally agree. Although, he is the CEO of a multi-national company, and therefore has a lot on his hands. Don't forget that there is other hotels to go around too. Nevertheless, he should be paying more at attention to people practically scamming badges, additionally with bans and unmuting a very large hotel. I think stopping the competitions would be better, instead of yes, parading around in 'his' Hotels become clubs, which he was trying to stop. He is becoming as bad as the people he is was trying to ban in the first place. Also, instead of getting happy when someone sticks some bacon hair on his head using paint, maybe he should be paying more attention to others on Twitter.

The daily visits to Habbo have dropped dramatically, as shown by wolfram alpha, and something needs to be done.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2n7o5ld.png

[karter]

Brilliant. Discarding a system because it's from 2001 apparently? Ok let's wave goodbye to moderators. We dont need them cause they're from 2001!!!! and lets just discard any form of staff event, thats from 2001 as well omg omg. The man is an idiot at times, saying that because a system is from 2001 it is flawed. It was never broke so there was no need to "fix" it. The only minor issue with staff judging competitions was that... I believe it was you karter pointed out that in 2 competitions, they had copied and pasted the first bunch of winners into the second bunch and then added 50 more.

I highly doubt he was on Habbo in 2001 so he really shouldn't comment like that.



yep it was me who pointed that out :P

and yeah! thats what i said to him, he said that the old competitions system was suitable for 2006-2008 and we have to change it now. after a month of pleading and telling him that old doesnt necessarily mean its bad and outdated, he blocked me, tagged me a griever and negative. and he did this with almost everyone who was not happy with the new unnecessary changes. the most annoying thing about him is that he expects only good response for new stuff, if he doesnt get good response, he just ignores everyone.

[Lewis]

Absolutely agree!


WOW, LMAO. Someone needs to get a grip. I got a minus rep saying 'you must be brain dead if you agree with that'

[FlyingJesus]

The daily visits to Habbo have dropped dramatically, as shown by wolfram alpha, and something needs to be done.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2n7o5ld.png

Isn't that because of the whole mute thing where god knows how many people just wouldn't bother to log on because there wasn't any point? Looks like traffic was actually on the rise before that exploded

[karter]

ahahahaha! did he really say that?? i'm sure his statistics team must be pretty challenged if they take on board suggestions like "u shud giv users 100c a month"

talking about statistics, i'd love to see the data on how fast this campaign furni is selling for, as much as i hate room building competitions, i can't see the stuff selling as fast without an incentive of badges. sure if they were in game or video competitions they waste staff's time, but i know loads of people who wouldn't have even touched the new range if there wasn't a competition.

would you have bought so much of this range if there wasn't a comp kirst?

yes he said it in response to this :
http://i48.tinypic.com/ojkpc9.png


(my idea in the uservoice which wanted twitter news out and habbo articles back was 2nd most popular at that time. now it nearly has 4k votes.)

his reply :

http://i47.tinypic.com/35c20s0.png

[Abdicators]

Isn't that because of the whole mute thing where god knows how many people just wouldn't bother to log on because there wasn't any point? Looks like traffic was actually on the rise before that exploded

It's going back up, very slowly.

http://screensnapr.com/e/YOuhLA.jpg

[MKR&*42]

yes he said it in response to this :
http://i48.tinypic.com/ojkpc9.png


(my idea in the uservoice which wanted twitter news out and habbo articles back was 2nd most popular at that time. now it nearly has 4k votes.)

his reply :

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Lol oh my goodness, that's pathetic. I'm pretty sure more users would like 10 free thrones than articles, but that doesn't mean you should necessarily follow that trend. They are getting incredibly lazy in regards to news articles/the news reel now. At the start they had all this;

http://screensnapr.com/e/NcE5NI.png

Then they evolved into just not bothering with text:

http://screensnapr.com/e/GtBhGM.png

And now they don't even bother using it to report about any major stuff at all. Like with this "Ancients" campaign they've made the hotel view and bloody Twitter the only source of promoting it, they haven't even bothered with the news reel. I fail to see how this....

http://screensnapr.com/e/6lCrL6.png

Still needs to be there. It could easily be replaced with something else, preferably something with text. Because a new user is not going to have a clue what "fast food" is with just an image and a button... at least give them a brief explanation so they would be inclined to click the button.

Oh sorry for not quoting you earlier, probably got distracted with VM haha. The man is also a complete hypocrite, he is so utterly against anything remotely old (before BETA) yet he allowed Snow Storm to be brought back... he also brought back giving out free VIP/"HC" (was given out free in some comps) even though it's useless because it doesn't become a unique service if everyone has it for a week. I don't get his logic, introduces old features then complains they are completely pointless and out-dated.

There is no harm in being favour of an old system. Don't get me wrong, although before BETA looked brilliant I think some of the features we have on Habbo now which weren't in V29 or before are quite good haha (e.g. ability to sit, YES IK THAT WAS INTRODUCED UNDER PAUL BEFORE SOMEONE SAYS THAT), but it doesn't mean old systems are useless.

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It's going back up, very slowly.

http://screensnapr.com/e/YOuhLA.jpg

That's a bit of relief for Sulake I suppose haha :P

[Abdicators]

He's never complained that old features were useless. He's said that how some of the things were managed (using Excel Spreadsheets) are not acceptable in this time.

[MKR&*42]

He's never complained that old features were useless. He's said that how some of the things were managed (using Excel Spreadsheets) are not acceptable in this time.

Well he seems to have a strong tendancy to dislike them and omg how do you spell tendancy ;l. Sure it was in this thread where he was CLEARLY in detest at a system dating back to "2001". If he doesn't like the organisation of them, edit it lol. Don't completely scrap a system purely because one feature of it needs to be improved.

Forgot what else I was going to say. Hmm.

[Abdicators]

Well he seems to have a strong tendancy to dislike them and omg how do you spell tendancy ;l. Sure it was in this thread where he was CLEARLY in detest at a system dating back to "2001". If he doesn't like the organisation of them, edit it lol. Don't completely scrap a system purely because one feature of it needs to be improved.

Forgot what else I was going to say. Hmm.

Yeah, he said he didn't like how some of the systems were manually organised in 2001. Nothing to do with functions within the hotel. You can't really argue with trying to find a better way to handle competitions for 300,000,000 users than having a staff manually document all their entries and points user an Excel Spreadsheet.

[iBlueBox]

I think it should depend on the type of competition,

For example room building competitions would be best done manually of a staff member choosing a winner.

Taking out the unfairness of voting such as booster rooms winning.

[MKR&*42]

I think it should depend on the type of competition,

For example room building competitions would be best done manually of a staff member choosing a winner.

Taking out the unfairness of voting such as booster rooms winning.


Yeah, he said he didn't like how some of the systems were manually organised in 2001. Nothing to do with functions within the hotel. You can't really argue with trying to find a better way to handle competitions for 300,000,000 users than having a staff manually document all their entries and points user an Excel Spreadsheet.

Read what iBlueBox said. It's a very valid point tbh... Wait for my reply, I'll have to do a quick count of something ok haha.

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Ok, in regards to room competitions. For the Savannah one, there were 11 pages on the navigator with room entires = 11 x 50 = 550 entries, minus the ones that weren't themed at all, I would put it near 500. It isn't that hard for a staff member to manually record 500 room entries haha. He said himself that room comps weren't being entered before by a lot of people ages ago, so surely the manual system wouldn't have been a big issue if it reached (I believe it was <1%) of users.

Ofc if it was for some major competition that received 1000s of entries, I'd understand his point about excel haha.

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Abdicators; ^

[Abdicators]

You've got to remember that there's not even that many people online right now, because of how we can chat. This room competition attracted 25% of the online population of Habbo.com (out of an average of 4,000~) at your calculation of 500. If you keep that percentage when say, 8,000 people are online, then that is 2,000 room entries; per hotel. There is 11 hotels at the minute. So that's 22,000 room entries. Excel would be silly for that.

[Zak]

Am I the only one in thinking they need one person and about an hour of their time to literally look through the entered rooms and make their own judgement on whose is best, then announce the results fairly. A lot of people here could do that for free, though that's likely to be bias I suppose :P...

I still stand at Paul being a moron, his actions to a lot of the problems are just ******* stupid. It takes no-time at all to implement what these users want, but no.... Habbo is a sinking ship, and I for one shall never spend credits on it again. Profit is the most important thing, but if the user's are unhappy they won't play anymore - There's a certain level they must meet in order to retain what they are currently making. Some areas they are going to fall short, but these are not huge problems (like the botting issue is on Runescape for example). They are easily fixable and require very little money spent or effort put into them to fix.

[MKR&*42]

I CAN'T THINK OF A REPLY. Anything I say contradicts myself Abdicators;.

Only thing I can really say is, they managed to use Excel for so long so I don't see why they had to go full on scrapping the system now haha. If they felt in need of an update, go ahead and update it but don't just cancel a perfectly good system because of 1 minor imperfection :P

Would love to know what they'd plan to do instead of Excel though?

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Am I the only one in thinking they need one person and about an hour of their time to literally look through the entered rooms and make their own judgement on whose is best, then announce the results fairly. A lot of people here could do that for free, though that's likely to be bias I suppose :P...

I still stand at Paul being a moron, his actions to a lot of the problems are just ******* stupid. It takes no-time at all to implement what these users want, but no.... Habbo is a sinking ship, and I for one shall never spend credits on it again. Profit is the most important thing, but if the user's are unhappy they won't play anymore - There's a certain level they must meet in order to retain what they are currently making. Some areas they are going to fall short, but these are not huge problems (like the botting issue is on Runescape for example). They are easily fixable and require very little money spent or effort put into them to fix.

It wouldn't even take that long to go through the top 100 rooms that received a badge for their efforts and remove the ones that aren't themed at all. I imagine most "addicted" players get through three times as many rooms as that per day.

Personally I think the final top 10 rooms should have been judged like the Stray Pixels entries. Simply with a poll, no going into a room with a giveaway to vote, making sure you can't use multiple characters on the same ID to vote, just allow the entire community to vote by placing a poll in a public room.

[iBlueBox]

Answer could be as simple as,

Having one hotel manager per hotel like normal.
With deputy managers,

they organise in-site competitions and judge them.

[Abdicators]

I think you're all focusing too much on having a staff member do the work. There is much better ways to do it than that. A major issue with this system is that users could vote for the room by entering it normally. They should have limited votes to going through the hotel view and the navigator that listed the entries. far less boosters/gamers would use that to get to their favourite rooms.

[Kyle]

The problem with the competition is the amount of fake entries - rooms that have deliberately entered with no plans to actually participate in the building aspect of the competition. All these suggestions about changing the voting are cool but Paul won't be listening to any of them because making competitions fun to enter but still fair for all isn't on his agenda.

I would say that the voting part is the fairest it could possibly be right now. All rooms are visible and if one wishes they can trawl through each and every entry to find those that they feel are worthy of their vote(s). Taking entries out of public view means that the only rooms that will receive votes are those that are kept full or those that are mad by people with a lot of contacts who they can badger until they vote the room. This means that really, boosting rooms and clubs will have a far higher chance of winning the competition than they do now.

The current setup is a good one, just not for themed competitions like these where habbos can abuse the system by only placing minimal furni down. With a crack down on votes per ID I think it would be a very good system for a room of the week type competition. For this competition though, it's quite obvious that some sort of vetting of rooms is urgently required. Even if it's just making sure the top ten follow the theme rather than going through hundreds of entries, that's fine by me.

Still think there is room for a competition council of some sort! Very little staff time would be taken to supervise it and they could help to eliminate the boost/party rooms from themed comps. :)

[Zak]

I'd say do the voting thing, then get a individual who works for Sulake to simply visit each of the 100 rooms, then the chosen individual must then choose a winner from that list, even a second, third.

Cost to Sulake: One hours wage, low paid worker .. £6-7?
Number of members happy: Hundreds? Thousands?

Considering how much Sulake makes, I don't see how someone couldn't see them not doing something like this as a complete joke. Anything less than doing this is just showing that they really don't care about the community.....................

anyone else agree

[Abdicators]

I'd say do the voting thing, then get a individual who works for Sulake to simply visit each of the 100 rooms, then the chosen individual must then choose a winner from that list, even a second, third.

Cost to Sulake: One hours wage, low paid worker .. £6-7?
Number of members happy: Hundreds? Thousands?

Considering how much Sulake makes, I don't see how someone couldn't see them not doing something like this as a complete joke. Anything less than doing this is just showing that they really don't care about the community.....................

anyone else agree

I don't agree. It isn't hundreds or thousands of people that are angry. The majority seem very content with how the competitions are going, it seems to me only a small percentage of users are getting angry about this.

[Kyle]

I don't agree. It isn't hundreds or thousands of people that are angry. The majority seem very content with how the competitions are going, it seems to me only a small percentage of users are getting angry about this.
There seems to be a correlation between the amount of those who spend hundreds of coins and time building rooms and those who are upset or angry about how the competition is being handled... I wonder why that could be...

[Zak]

I don't agree. It isn't hundreds or thousands of people that are angry. The majority seem very content with how the competitions are going, it seems to me only a small percentage of users are getting angry about this.

How?

that g.c.magic or w.e won didn't he? and his room was a race room and pure gob ****e. People made fantastic rooms and popular rooms end up winning.... because they're popular?

I thought the whole point of having a room comp is that the best themed room won.. else they might as well say may the most popular room win.... I'd be angry too if I'd spent ages building a fantastic room then some idiot whose room was **** won. I wouldn't bother again.

[Abdicators]

There seems to be a correlation between the amount of those who spend hundreds of coins and time building rooms and those who are upset or angry about how the competition is being handled... I wonder why that could be...

Yeah, that's true. I can understand why they are annoyed though, I would be too. But having staff employed to come and verify your rooms isn't the way to solve this. It'd start favouritism, some users would start to hate and then attack that staff member; you need a better idea than that.

[Red]

No you're wrong. There has been an absolute ton of people that have come up to me since I won and said that its unfair how he has won with that room twice in a row. So no the majority are not 'content'. It would have taken five minutes to look at the top ten rooms, check them, If not a savannah give them to the new room with highest votes that was.
Still don't know if this is confirmed, but they couldn't even get the voting system right and those with egypt had their votes added on? All I'm saying is they better buck their ideas up and get that fixed for the next one.

[Zak]

I don't see how 'attacking a staff member' is an issue either. The Sulake staff member who would end up judging won't be attacked.. because we won't know who it is... Sulake don't have to tell us. It could be anyone, so we'd be unable to target even if we wanted to.

And so what if they were attacked? They're not ******* babies.. surely that's not a problem. At work everyone hates my boss, and by half doesn't he know it, but he doesn't care????

[Abdicators]

No you're wrong. There has been an absolute ton of people that have come up to me since I won and said that its unfair how he has won with that room twice in a row. So no the majority are not 'content'. It would have taken five minutes to look at the top ten rooms, check them, If not a savannah give them to the new room with highest votes that was.

However much you want to, you can't kick out winners if their room meets the entry requirements; which theirs did. It's unfair, and it's not right, but if the majority were not content, then they would not have voted for those rooms. There are hundreds of thousands of Habbos, and each and every one of those is just as entitled to enter the competition.

Having a staff member judge the top ten after they have received votes is not fair. That is in the same league as a millionaire winning the lottery, then The National Lottery not paying them because they've already got the money, so they'll just give it to the next closest person.

If you don't want them in there, you have to come up with an idea to change either the entry requirements, or how users vote for their rooms. You can't kick them out after they have entered, fairly, like you.

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I don't see how 'attacking a staff member' is an issue either.

And so what if they were attacked? They're not ******* babies.. surely that's not a problem. At work everyone hates my boss, and by half doesn't he know it, but he doesn't care????

Wow lol.

[MKR&*42]

However much you want to, you can't kick out winners if their room meets the entry requirements; which theirs did. It's unfair, and it's not right, but if the majority were not content, then they would not have voted for those rooms. There are hundreds of thousands of Habbos, and each and every one of those is just as entitled to enter the competition.

Having a staff member judge the top ten after they have received votes is not fair. That is in the same league as a millionaire winning the lottery, then The National Lottery not paying them because they've already got the money, so they'll just give it to the next closest person.

If you don't want them in there, you have to come up with an idea to change either the entry requirements, or how users vote for their rooms. You can't kick them out after they have entered, fairly, like you.

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Wow lol.


No the fact is the majority are just completely blind to how well a room has been built, and only give 2 **** about having fun in some damn wired maze or getting furniture if they use a giveaway to gain votes. I imagine most of the people who voted anyway are just new users who thought the room looked big and colourful so clicked "vote".

Truthfully, the room doesn't even look that good imo... :S.

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Apart from that you've made some "ok-ish" points. I just think Sulake need to change it so that you need your room to be a certain name as well to submit it? That way people wouldn't go into a room titled "savannah room competition" if they were looking for a wired maze, thus reducing the amount of people just voting cause a maze looks good lol.

[Zak]

However much you want to, you can't kick out winners if their room meets the entry requirements; which theirs did. It's unfair, and it's not right, but if the majority were not content, then they would not have voted for those rooms. There are hundreds of thousands of Habbos, and each and every one of those is just as entitled to enter the competition.

Having a staff member judge the top ten after they have received votes is not fair. That is in the same league as a millionaire winning the lottery, then The National Lottery not paying them because they've already got the money, so they'll just give it to the next closest person.

If you don't want them in there, you have to come up with an idea to change either the entry requirements, or how users vote for their rooms. You can't kick them out after they have entered, fairly, like you.

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Wow lol.

Why wow?

and I have no idea what the millionaire winning the lottery has got to do with it? The lottery isn't a competition. Believe it or not most competitions are judged by people..... duh

If a Sulake staff member doesn't know any of the Habbo's and therefore is not bias.... what's unfair about them judging the rooms?.......oh wait.... nothing

[Red]

If it doesn't meet the brief, then they should be disqualified. Anyone is entitled to enter but they can make a room which fits to the brief. Simple. Most don't have a clue what the banner is, so just vote because his face comes up on the navigator. And anyway if the voting tho was true, I won by over 1000 votes anyway. Staff aren't judging rooms. I'm not saying, oh the room with 600 votes is better than the one with 2000, so lets move it to first place. All they would be doing is removing the ones that did not 'make a savannah' 'make a tree fort' and giving it to the next person with the highest votes that did.

[Abdicators]

You could do a few things to try and curb it.



Force a new room to be created for the competition (Existing rooms cannot be entered)
Force the room into a competition category ('Savannah Themed Rooms')
Hide the room from normal navigator categories (Game/RPG/Popular Rooms/Trade/Etc.)
Ensure that the room has x% of furniture related to the competition before allowing a user to vote for it. (for example 30% of the furniture has to be from the catalogue page)
Ensure that the room has x pieces of furniture related to the competition before allowing a user to enter it. (Like it is at the minute)



You could even disallow certain pieces of furniture, like wired. No real reason to use wired.

[Kyle]

I found through asking people to vote the room that a lot of people much prefer to vote a room that's actually good than if somebody pays or begs them to vote. A lot of people had already voted the room before being asked because of how good it was ;)


Yeah, that's true. I can understand why they are annoyed though, I would be too. But having staff employed to come and verify your rooms isn't the way to solve this. It'd start favouritism, some users would start to hate and then attack that staff member; you need a better idea than that.
I would much prefer a little bit of staff favourtism of one or two users than have that bloody clown win again lmao. Besides, only a few staff were subject to this in the past, the rest were relatively fair when choosing winning rooms and if somebody like revolver enters an outstanding room every time (which he has, lets be honest) then you cant really accuse people of picking favourites just because the person has won in the past. If somebody deserves to win more than once then they should win more than once, regardless of how fair it seems. I do think that some people are rather greedy though by entering competition after competition with a win-worthy entry.

[Abdicators]

If it doesn't meet the brief, then they should be disqualified. Anyone is entitled to enter but they can make a room which fits to the brief. Simple. Most don't have a clue what the banner is, so just vote because his face comes up on the navigator. And anyway if the voting tho was true, I won by over 1000 votes anyway. Staff aren't judging rooms. I'm not saying, oh the room with 600 votes is better than the one with 2000, so lets move it to first place. All they would be doing is removing the ones that did not 'make a savannah' 'make a tree fort' and giving it to the next person with the highest votes that did.

But their rooms did make the brief, they had the required pieces of furniture in their rooms.

[Red]

No they never.... the brief was to 'make a savannah' ....... ?!? :S
and clearly that was sulakes poor way to check that people did make one. It didn't work, so they are going to have to come with a better way in the future to ensure people do.

[Abdicators]

No they never.... the brief was to 'make a savannah' ....... ?!? :S

Using the required pieces of furniture. Which they did.

[MKR&*42]

No they never.... the brief was to 'make a savannah' ....... ?!? :S
and clearly that was sulakes poor way to check that people did make one. It didn't work, so they are going to have to come with a better way in the future to ensure people do.


Using the required pieces of furniture. Which they did.

Brief was to make a Savannah themed room.
Specification was to use the required items.

They met the specifications but not the brief, so it's a tricky issue haha.

[Red]

Umm no. Just because they drop three pieces of furni in the room, doesn't qualify them to have fit the brief.

[Kyle]

You could do a few things to try and curb it.



Force a new room to be created for the competition (Existing rooms cannot be entered)
Force the room into a competition category ('Savannah Themed Rooms')
Hide the room from normal navigator categories (Game/RPG/Popular Rooms/Trade/Etc.)
Ensure that the room has x% of furniture related to the competition before allowing a user to vote for it. (for example 30% of the furniture has to be from the catalogue page)
Ensure that the room has x pieces of furniture related to the competition before allowing a user to enter it. (Like it is at the minute)



You could even disallow certain pieces of furniture, like wired. No real reason to use wired.
The creation of a new room is certainly a good one and forcing them into another category was something that was done in the past and proved to work very well. Just need an enable trading button in rooms settings again, then it'd be perfect.

Now, ensuring that people use a certain amount of furniture is something I am fully against. The minimum required furni at the moment is fine and forcing people to splash out even more would only cause a drop in entries. People can do amazing things with furni that's already released and still stick to the theme and, likewise, people can afford all the furni from the catalogue and add it to a terrible room, as proven by kaboom.girl.

Disallowing furni, ESPECIALLY wired, is a big no-no. If somebody designs a big room and the door is blocked then wired is needed to teleport users in. It can even be used to add special effects to the room, like the moving fish in Rabbit's savannah room. Game-related wired, perhaps.

[Abdicators]

Umm no. Just because they drop three pieces of furni in the room, doesn't qualify them to have fit the brief.

Well it did lol, because if it didn't they wouldn't have been able to enter their room. They did what was required.

[Red]

Brief was to make a Savannah themed room.
Specification was to use the required items.

They met the specifications but not the brief, so it's a tricky issue haha.

This... theres a difference in brief and specifications. The required items was just an inefficient check that the rooms met the brief. It didn't work. So they are going to have to do something else because it is quite clear an automated system is not going to cut it.

[Abdicators]

The creation of a new room is certainly a good one and forcing them into another category was something that was done in the past and proved to work very well. Just need an enable trading button in rooms settings again, then it'd be perfect.

Now, ensuring that people use a certain amount of furniture is something I am fully against. The minimum required furni at the moment is fine and forcing people to splash out even more would only cause a drop in entries. People can do amazing things with furni that's already released and still stick to the theme and, likewise, people can afford all the furni from the catalogue and add it to a terrible room, as proven by kaboom.girl.

Disallowing furni, ESPECIALLY wired, is a big no-no. If somebody designs a big room and the door is blocked then wired is needed to teleport users in. It can even be used to add special effects to the room, like the moving fish in Rabbit's savannah room. Game-related wired, perhaps.

Didn't mean for the ideas to be set in stone. But that's the sort of thing I think you guys should be trying to talk to Paul about, instead of trying to coerce him into getting a staff member on the job; that wont work lol.

[iBlueBox]

Going to completely disagree with the 'No Wired' , as not all would use wired for a boost / maze, Some people actually use wired to make the room more animated, better and interactive.

[Red]

I like the idea of not being to enter the same room twice. It would cut down the amount of popular rooms entering. The competition rules stated that anyway, so yet another mistake on Sulake's part for allowing that to happen.

[Kyle]

Didn't mean for the ideas to be set in stone. But that's the sort of thing I think you guys should be trying to talk to Paul about, instead of trying to coerce him into getting a staff member on the job; that wont work lol.
Sadly the character limit on twitter prevents us from expanding very far at all on our ideas and it has been proven that if you continue tweeting Paul about an idea he doesn't necessarily like to start with then you're usually on the path to a block.

I'd like to be able to have a civilised discussion with Paul on the matter and know that I have his full attention when explaining my ideas. Twitter isn't the platform for this and just means we have to cram everything we want to say into a sentence or two, making it seem a lot less thought through that it actually is...

Or perhaps we could even talk to a staff member - whose job actually would be to take the ideas of the community on board - so I know that it will at least be taken on board without some wisecrack about how it isn't their job to deal with this sort of thing and I should feel some sort of honour that I have at least got a response. I dunno, maybe they'll call themself a "Hotel Manager" or a derivative thereof... just a thought.

[Abdicators]

http://www.twitlonger.com (http://www.twitlonger.com/) he's read my tweets on there, should read yours too.

[Kyle]

http://www.twitlonger.com (http://www.twitlonger.com/) he's read my tweets on there, should read yours too.
I know there are ways to bypass the tweet limit but sadly Paul himself would not use them to make a response, which is what I would want. I want a lengthy discussion (like the one in this thread) where we would each take on board each other's ideas and would lead to a reasonable conclusion. The current way it seems to go is a user tweets Paul with their idea, he either likes it straight away or absolutely despises it, regardless of how many redeeming features and fixes that it might have. If I write a lengthy post outlining the flaws in a system that he introduced then that isn't going to stand me in very good stead to begin with, and then there's the problem that when I offer my own (and others') suggested fixes for these problems he is going to need to be able to tell me why he might disagree with them and he can't do that without making a similarly long tweet back, which he won't do. Perhaps I'm just asking for too much...

Somebody organise an Q&A with paul or a sulake representative involved with the community on habboxforum please! @xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020);

[Tidings]

people are saying we shouldnt be so selfish and not complain blah blah. please take note that this competition is THEMED. half of the rooms on both comps were not not themed. the winner had already been picked for the facebook comp and is known for that therefore popular. this room is not a Savannah Maze, same with the teenagers party, i mean come on? the idea behind room comps is that room designers present a THEMED room corresponding to the theme of the competition. therefore these rooms that either are in top ten, or even all that enter should be reviewed by one/two members of staff. the staff are SUPPOSED to be active in the hotel, doing their jobs.

Im not complaining that i didnt place, I wasn't even hoping on it because i knew these rooms would take over. well done to kirst and kyle whos room is the only one that deserves to be there.

Spent like 900c making mine to have a maze room, fake giveaways, police rooms, and dating rooms beat mine, when their's is not themed.

so yes, we are entitled to moan that these competitions are not run properly. the voting is bad, a popularity contest. its a themed room competition, for themed rooms.
-end of rant-

[MatthewRMG]

I know there are ways to bypass the tweet limit but sadly Paul himself would not use them to make a response, which is what I would want. I want a lengthy discussion (like the one in this thread) where we would each take on board each other's ideas and would lead to a reasonable conclusion. The current way it seems to go is a user tweets Paul with their idea, he either likes it straight away or absolutely despises it, regardless of how many redeeming features and fixes that it might have. If I write a lengthy post outlining the flaws in a system that he introduced then that isn't going to stand me in very good stead to begin with, and then there's the problem that when I offer my own (and others') suggested fixes for these problems he is going to need to be able to tell me why he might disagree with them and he can't do that without making a similarly long tweet back, which he won't do. Perhaps I'm just asking for too much...

Somebody organise an Q&A with paul or a sulake representative involved with the community on habboxforum please! @xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020);

I agree with this. Whilst Paul is right to say that his job isn't to deal with feedback, he should be prepared to at least pass on ideas (which he claims he does?) regardless of whether he agrees with them or not, based solely on merit. They need to set up a Habbo twitter account staffed by a representative (maybe Rishell - Social Media Manager person?) dealing with feedback and Q/A. There needs to be some form of dialogue between management and the community (yes, there's Uservoice, but that's not really dialogue - at most you get a "We're looking into it" canned reply) otherwise the community will suffer and start to feel disaffected.

If Paul isn't prepared to accept feedback, then he should say a standard response of "Sorry, I don't accept feedback" rather than "That's a great idea!" or "That's a terrible idea! *insults then blocks*". There is a reason he left Playdom (Disney), people... he was also in the US Army so I imagine part of his brusque manner comes from there. (I only know that because we're LinkedIn connections or whatever.)

[efq]

I dislike Paul LaFontaine and hate him, he's always been so blunt to me on Twitter and so god damn rude. He is awful at his job and he's got an ego as big as Piers Morgan.

[LiquidLuck.]

He seems pretty determinated to solve this joke about boost rooms winning competitons.

[Fifty-Six]

He seems pretty determinated to solve this joke about boost rooms winning competitons.

He was "determined" after the Egyptian competition.. then the Savanna competition repeated the same thing. Let's hope he's actually made some changes for the Jungle room competition.

[LiquidLuck.]

He was "determined" after the Egyptian competition.. then the Savanna competition repeated the same thing. Let's hope he's actually made some changes for the Jungle room competition.

Oh, I guess.. Although their main priority right now might be solving the problems with the chat.

[Kyle]

I dunno if this is staff being lazy or Paul being true to his word on removal of room competitions (half way through a campaign? very sloppy) but there have been no images added on the homepage or in the sections in banner that comes up when you enter own room.

http://i49.tinypic.com/358xaq9.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/zogfn4.png

Need anything else to prove that automated systems don't always triumph, Paul?

[MKR&*42]

I dunno if this is staff being lazy or Paul being true to his word on removal of room competitions (half way through a campaign? very sloppy) but there have been no images added on the homepage or in the sections in banner that comes up when you enter own room.

http://i49.tinypic.com/358xaq9.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/zogfn4.png

Need anything else to prove that automated systems don't always triumph, Paul?

Haha. Is it fixed now (i cba to go log on) ? Same thing occurred with a load of badges recently (no image) :P