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[Richie]

Habboxlive and their events
I pointed this out a few days ago in the habboxlive section. Events aren't planned anymore, we're all given so much notice but still leave everything to the last second. When Matt hosted that massive youtube event, bookings before and after weren't dicussed. When Matt finished his show he was going to let the radio go offline. I was really busy at the time but was practically begged to go on air because no-one else would step up to the plate and I didn't want the radio to go offline at 150listeners so I went on. I still stand by what I said though, I do believe Olz and Gina tried their best with the HabboxStarz but a lot more preperation could have been done. Slots before and after the event weren't booked and clips seemed to be getting chucked every corner. I think a lot of the djs don't want to go on air after an event because they know the listeners will drop or are afraid, it's expected but if no-one bites the bullet, do you really expect people to sit around and wait on you all to agree on who's going on next? No wonder we aren't keeping numbers.


Staff
Habboxlive was in the public spotlight not long ago. Staff not being able to complete their duties was brought into it and apparently that was dealt with. It was for a small period of time but now it's worse than ever. I spoke to xxMattgxx about some people who're still staff and don't deserve their position, I have no shame in saying I have reported certain people about sitting back, doing nothing, just to hold onto their high position. People go away for weeks without telling anyone and get away with it. Sure there's people still posted away up until August the 9th, that was almost two weeks ago and it still hasn't been updated. Some people are even posted away who aren't even staff any more.


My Suggestion
Those who refuse to dj and don't meet their minimum, fire them without question. Put more effort into planning the actual main events as well as the slots before and after. Don't expect people to come to you, I know it's a habbo fansite but you never know what sort of hobbies people might want to take on. I'd suggest posting something on radio daddy, I got a lot of my presenters from there when I ran my station and these were properly qualified people who were earning big and were nice. I'm not saying habboxlive should turn into radio one but tell people about habboxlive on other forums, people might be interested and I believe radio daddy would be a good place to start. If senior staff + are not completing their full duties demote them and hire someone who will, if they still don't meet their minimum as a radio dj, dismiss them. Perhaps you could do something fun with the djs like have them write scripts for their shows and those with the best script wins vip or something because going on air and shouting NEXT SONG IS BLABLABLA it doesn't work, I do it too. I'm not saying this because I'm leaving, I agreed with @GoldenMerc (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=26925); when he suggested something along the lines, remove the guest dj position and have part time / regular staff, regular staff should receive some sort of incentive so they all don't hop onto the part time boat. As soon as HxSS ends, the department will hit rock bottom.



When I first came back to habboxlive under my guest dj role I didn't feel as if I got on well with many staff members. Everyone seemed to think that i was a big bad man who just came back to create chaos. That never was the case. Although I have pointed out habboxlives flaws publicly in the past, I did it in the way which I did because I know from being the devious little devil I can be, that the only way you can get issues addressed quickly and properly is if you put that department in the public spotlight.

As much as I love habboxlive, broadcasting and the tasks behind it, I think it's time for me to hand in my resignation. I have been involved with habboxlive for some time, on and off constantly for a good 4/5 years, not to mention the years I've bonded with managers and other staff prior to that. It has come to the point where I'm not sure if the department can ever really be restored to a proper running order like other departments. Without offending anyone, I just don't believe there's anyone capable of running the department. It's a bit like habbox overall, I have given @xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); so much abuse in the past for being a terrible general manager, which he has proved wrong but realistically at this time if he left the site would collapse. I think habboxlive has gone past that point, it has already collapsed due to poor management.

Just to add whoever thought of the publicity stunt for habboxlive, I'm sorry but it's such a ridiculous idea. It might have worked in the past but we're struggling to get 30 listeners these days, those people will just assume it's the end of the radio and leave without hesitation. I wish the department all best and hope they fix these issues.



Sorry if I sound patronizing or rude but it had to be said,
Richard.



@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); SyrupyMonkey; @RemelKiid (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=60296); @Inseriousity. (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=26409);

[GoldenMerc]

I agree with most of this although HabboxLive could quite easily pick up.

The problem i feel with Habbox Management is it generally does take a lot to get fired, I mean ,Jess, it took her 6 months of being inactive to be fired, then they hired RemelKid, who previously to Jess being fired -repped any negative comment towards HabboxLive or Jess, so that wasnt a brilliant start.

I personally think if Grig stayed and was manager he could have changed that department, in my eyes HxL needs to work with events, but not being forced to work with events. They should want to, As if you think about it, Events can say tune into the radio, the radio can say head down to Yet's Habbo room for Bingo.

Ross

[iLogan]

Habboxlive and their events
I pointed this out a few days ago in the habboxlive section. Events aren't planned anymore, we're all given so much notice but still leave everything to the last second. When Matt hosted that massive youtube event, bookings before and after weren't dicussed. When Matt finished his show he was going to let the radio go offline. I was really busy at the time but was practically begged to go on air because no-one else would step up to the plate and I didn't want the radio to go offline at 150listeners so I went on. I still stand by what I said though, I do believe Olz and Gina tried their best with the HabboxStarz but a lot more preperation could have been done. Slots before and after the event weren't booked and clips seemed to be getting chucked every corner. I think a lot of the djs don't want to go on air after an event because they know the listeners will drop or are afraid, it's expected but if no-one bites the bullet, do you really expect people to sit around and wait on you all to agree on who's going on next? No wonder we aren't keeping numbers.

Agree with what you've said here. It's an unfortunate coincidence that I was away whilst HxStarz was going on, but hopefully their show tomorrow will be more planned etc.

I wouldn't say people are afraid to go on air after big events, it's just part of the issue of slots not being booked. I remember a while ago at HabboxLive whenever a big event was on, the slots after were always booked without someone having to ask someone to book them. Hopefully things will return to that.



Staff
Habboxlive was in the public spotlight not long ago. Staff not being able to complete their duties was brought into it and apparently that was dealt with. It was for a small period of time but now it's worse than ever. I spoke to xxMattgxx about some people who're still staff and don't deserve their position, I have no shame in saying I have reported certain people about sitting back, doing nothing, just to hold onto their high position. People go away for weeks without telling anyone and get away with it. Sure there's people still posted away up until August the 9th, that was almost two weeks ago and it still hasn't been updated. Some people are even posted away who aren't even staff any more.

Staff who don't deserve their position will and do get dismissed. In terms of the last bit that you've mentioned - that's more of an administrative issue, something that the Head DJs should actually be dealing with.



My Suggestion
Those who refuse to dj and don't meet their minimum, fire them without question. Put more effort into planning the actual main events as well as the slots before and after. Don't expect people to come to you, I know it's a habbo fansite but you never know what sort of hobbies people might want to take on. I'd suggest posting something on radio daddy, I got a lot of my presenters from there when I ran my station and these were properly qualified people who were earning big and were nice. I'm not saying habboxlive should turn into radio one but tell people about habboxlive on other forums, people might be interested and I believe radio daddy would be a good place to start. If senior staff + are not completing their full duties demote them and hire someone who will, if they still don't meet their minimum as a radio dj, dismiss them. Perhaps you could do something fun with the djs like have them write scripts for their shows and those with the best script wins vip or something because going on air and shouting NEXT SONG IS BLABLABLA it doesn't work, I do it too. I'm not saying this because I'm leaving, I agreed with @GoldenMerc (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=26925); when he suggested something along the lines, remove the guest dj position and have part time / regular staff, regular staff should receive some sort of incentive so they all don't hop onto the part time boat. As soon as HxSS ends, the department will hit rock bottom.

I don't think any DJs intentionally refuse to DJ - why would they join the department if they were going to do that? DJs who are failing to reach their minimums receive warnings and do get dismissed if it reaches a point which is unacceptable.

I like the idea of advertising HxL externally. In terms of scripts for shows, I don't really like that idea. The whole point of DJing is having that spontaneousness, but I do agree that there should be some sort of structure. I remember you suggesting show plans a while back and I have been thinking of ways we can implement this in the department. What do you suggest for incentives for DJs?[/quote]

[beth]

we appear to be back here again. every six weeks.

everytime i say it and everytime it gets ignored but i honestly think habbo radio is finished: get rid of habboxlive and use the resources/the people to do other things.

perhaps get a section of news that focuses on live audio reports / audio rare values news. just transfer the skill.

wasting time.

[lawrawrrr]

NGL i did tl;dr most of that but still.


The whole planning thing was the main point of my other thread, got completely out of hand so I agree there, and sort agree with other things, a lot of the staff do need a kick up the bum.

However, if you really think the department is struggling that much, and you must know you're one of the most respected DJs on there, how is quitting really going to help anything? Isn't it better to stay and see if you can actually help in some way or the other?

[GoldenMerc]

NGL i did tl;dr most of that but still.


The whole planning thing was the main point of my other thread, got completely out of hand so I agree there, and sort agree with other things, a lot of the staff do need a kick up the bum.

However, if you really think the department is struggling that much, and you must know you're one of the most respected DJs on there, how is quitting really going to help anything? Isn't it better to stay and see if you can actually help in some way or the other?

tbh if grig left because remelkid wouldn't listen what chance has richie got

[Robbie]

However, if you really think the department is struggling that much, and you must know you're one of the most respected DJs on there, how is quitting really going to help anything? Isn't it better to stay and see if you can actually help in some way or the other?

Not when nobody in the department actually seems to want help - from what I can see from the outside, it looks like the staff are just happy letting it stagnate in its current state, any suggestions in feedback always seem to be shot down immediately by a lot of the DJs. If I saw nobody was taking my (or any) suggestions on board as an experienced DJ, I'd probably leave too.

[Richie]

NGL i did tl;dr most of that but still.


The whole planning thing was the main point of my other thread, got completely out of hand so I agree there, and sort agree with other things, a lot of the staff do need a kick up the bum.

However, if you really think the department is struggling that much, and you must know you're one of the most respected DJs on there, how is quitting really going to help anything? Isn't it better to stay and see if you can actually help in some way or the other?

The thing is Laura people get tired of trying. For example, the other day I did a competition for coins and points, the listeners got to about 40 odd (which is a lot these days) and everyone refused to do the next slot. That's just one occasion it happens a lot on a daily basis. Fair enough people might have things to do but it's the same people covering time and time again and I don't believe for a second 25 odd staff members are constantly busy at the exact same time. People make excuses, I have to go out, I have to do this but really they're just on skype and browsing the forum. They're entitled to that but it'd be nice if they lend and hand now and then.

There isn't any point in me trying to get high listeners then everyone 'cba' to go on air next. It's a team effort, always has been but it's lost now. Thanks for the comment too ;) I don't believe that though I think habboxlive have loads of fantastic djs much better than me, they just 'cba' most of the time.


bethany;
I think habboxlive has loads of potential but only if people get off their backside and help.

[Inseriousity.]

we appear to be back here again. every six weeks.

everytime i say it and everytime it gets ignored but i honestly think habbo radio is finished: get rid of habboxlive and use the resources/the people to do other things.

perhaps get a section of news that focuses on live audio reports / audio rare values news. just transfer the skill.

wasting time.

I think Habbo radios are stuck in a rut doing the same things over and over but I don't think that means they're finished. They just need something unique that gets people tuning in again. Naturally, that's easier said than done although I have been thinking of possible ideas (radio plays for example).

[MKR&*42]

Richie you make this thread every other month, determined much haha ;) Don't blame ya.

I really think the future for HxL is bleak unless someone pulls out something unbelievably amazing. Now. No more "we have plans to update so and so", "there will be exciting changes in a couple of weeks", it needs to happen now and it needs to happen fast. It was a shame after the event that Maatt.; (Guessed name) did, there were no DJs booked because it was fab. to see the listener count that high. You can't drag people to go onto the radio, but I'm sure quite a handful of DJs who could have easily booked that slot. I believe Richie ended up going on there in the end idk.

Whilst I'm here, can I please ask. Why don't you show "non-unique" listeners on the radio as well, sure it's not truthful per se, but it at least makes the listener count seem a lot higher.

I'm all for events teaming up with HxL A LOT more often. The DJs already say "search so and so" for an event and some do mini on-air competitions which seem a bit rushed, but it'd be much nicer to bigger events planned between the HxL and Events department (HabboxStars is a fab. event, and yes I'm aware events dept. wasn't involved in that :P). Simply a shame that saying a Habbox link will most likely get you a mute/ban in-game, so events hosts can't really remind people to tune into Hxl.

Also, do major giveaways still happen? I've seen the "win a room" thingy, but not so many giveaways now. I know we're not all made of furniture and credits aha, but it'd be nice to have a monthly/bi-weekly one in order to continuously spike up those user counts more often.

I like Bethie's idea about news going onto the radio tbf. I'm not sure where I stand on scrapping the dept. (because it seriously will face a big blow when HxSS ends) but quite simply, something major needs to be done now.

[beth]

Not when nobody in the department actually seems to want help - from what I can see from the outside, it looks like the staff are just happy letting it stagnate in its current state, any suggestions in feedback always seem to be shot down immediately by a lot of the DJs. If I saw nobody was taking my (or any) suggestions on board as an experienced DJ, I'd probably leave too.


The thing is Laura people get tired of trying. For example, the other day I did a competition for coins and points, the listeners got to about 40 odd (which is a lot these days) and everyone refused to do the next slot. Fair enough people might have things to do but it's the same people covering time and time again and I don't believe for a second 25 odd staff members are constantly busy at the exact same time. People make excuses, I have to go out, I have to do this but really they're just on skype and browsing the forum. They're entitled to that but it'd be nice if they lend and hand now and then.

to be fair to the staff, i would imagine the majority of the DJ's are still young 13/14 year olds (amirite?) who are here to mess around on the internet and enjoy themselves not save a dying department and spend all their spare time planning great detail into a radio show that doesn't necessarily affect their offline life. and it's all good and well to say "well get rid of the uncommitted" but who would you have left, really?

the problem is far too deep rooted. i would like to think that jess and myself got somewhere for a little while around valentines with inactivity checks and mass hiring/firing but i do think logan (if he wants to bring this department back around, i think you'd be wasting your time hun but worth a go) fire the entire department and start again with looser rules and a more modern approach.

in regards to planning of habbox starz myself and Sammy; planned the xmas factor EVERYDAY for 2 months. we spent hours mixing clips and tunes. if that effort hasn't gone in, then i expect it might be messy.

[Richie]

to be fair to the staff, i would imagine the majority of the DJ's are still young 13/14 year olds (amirite?) who are here to mess around on the internet and enjoy themselves not save a dying department and spend all their spare time planning great detail into a radio show that doesn't necessarily affect their offline life. and it's all good and well to say "well get rid of the uncommitted" but who would you have left, really?

the problem is far too deep rooted. i would like to think that jess and myself got somewhere for a little while around valentines with inactivity checks and mass hiring/firing but i do think logan (if he wants to bring this department back around, i think you'd be wasting your time hun but worth a go) fire the entire department and start again with looser rules and a more modern approach.

in regards to planning of habbox starz myself and @Sammy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=67748); planned the xmas factor EVERYDAY for 2 months. we spent hours mixing clips and tunes. if that effort hasn't gone in, then i expect it might be messy.

I'm not suggesting they turn the radio into some sort of nazi camp. With the amount of djs habboxlive have if everyone got their minimum weekly the timetable would be sorted but that doesn't happen. Everyone is here to have fun but you can have fun whilst following rules and helping one another. Sure one of the things i liked doing was, making myself a challenge to get a certain amount of listeners and be determined to get those listeners but that's probs just me :P

[Kardan]

If I put my opinion into this, I think the days of Habbo Radio are long gone.

Does Habbox make much profit on the radio?

[iLogan]

In terms of getting DJs on air, it's a tricky one. We can't force people to go on air but if they're not doing their minimums then they will receive warnings and eventually get dismissed. In terms of motivation to book slots we do have a department-wide DJ points scheme where you receive points for booking slots, hosting events etc which can then be redeemed at the end of the month for rewards such as forum vip / rep and credits.

I'm not sure what more we can do in terms of motivating DJs to get on the radio. Does anyone have any suggestions?


Richie you make this thread every other month, determined much haha ;) Don't blame ya.

I really think the future for HxL is bleak unless someone pulls out something unbelievably amazing. Now. No more "we have plans to update so and so", "there will be exciting changes in a couple of weeks", it needs to happen now and it needs to happen fast. It was a shame after the event that Maatt.; (Guessed name) did, there were no DJs booked because it was fab. to see the listener count that high. You can't drag people to go onto the radio, but I'm sure quite a handful of DJs who could have easily booked that slot. I believe Richie ended up going on there in the end idk.

Whilst I'm here, can I please ask. Why don't you show "non-unique" listeners on the radio as well, sure it's not truthful per se, but it at least makes the listener count seem a lot higher.

I'm all for events teaming up with HxL A LOT more often. The DJs already say "search so and so" for an event and some do mini on-air competitions which seem a bit rushed, but it'd be much nicer to bigger events planned between the HxL and Events department (HabboxStars is a fab. event, and yes I'm aware events dept. wasn't involved in that :P). Simply a shame that saying a Habbox link will most likely get you a mute/ban in-game, so events hosts can't really remind people to tune into Hxl.

Also, do major giveaways still happen? I've seen the "win a room" thingy, but not so many giveaways now. I know we're not all made of furniture and credits aha, but it'd be nice to have a monthly/bi-weekly one in order to continuously spike up those user counts more often.

I like Bethie's idea about news going onto the radio tbf. I'm not sure where I stand on scrapping the dept. (because it seriously will face a big blow when HxSS ends) but quite simply, something major needs to be done now.

In terms of the non-unique listeners, the majority of the time our unique listeners and non-unique listeners are pretty much the same, never more than 2 or 3 listeners in difference.

[MKR&*42]

In terms of getting DJs on air, it's a tricky one. We can't force people to go on air but if they're not doing their minimums then they will receive warnings and eventually get dismissed. In terms of motivation to book slots we do have a department-wide DJ points scheme where you receive points for booking slots, hosting events etc which can then be redeemed at the end of the month for rewards such as forum vip / rep and credits.

I'm not sure what more we can do in terms of motivating DJs to get on the radio. Does anyone have any suggestions?



In terms of the non-unique listeners, the majority of the time our unique listeners and non-unique listeners are pretty much the same, never more than 2 or 3 listeners in difference.

Hmm, I expected a massive difference really aha. I suppose if it's only 2/3 it doesn't matter that much.

[lawrawrrr]

tbh if grig left because remelkid wouldn't listen what chance has richie got

really i didn't know that

hope it's not another department that just goes downhill because the manager doesn't seem to be open to ideas... if that is true anyway


Not when nobody in the department actually seems to want help - from what I can see from the outside, it looks like the staff are just happy letting it stagnate in its current state, any suggestions in feedback always seem to be shot down immediately by a lot of the DJs. If I saw nobody was taking my (or any) suggestions on board as an experienced DJ, I'd probably leave too.

I completely agree with you, I was just making a comment that perhaps Richie was just trying on his own rather than suggesting to Logan, as I didn't know whether he did this or not. At the end of the day, you can enforce things to be making people write more, even in News we've managed to get our staff churning out 1 article a day which is great compared to a few weeks ago when sometimes we'd have 3 or 4 per week.

Anyway back to HxL issue, we don't know what's going on behind, I think half the issue is because the DJs just can't be bothered to get involved with the community, whereas the ones that do (Maggots, Richie etc) are much more popular than some of the people who are hired fresh on Habbox with no community involvement, only have their Habbo friends to rely on to tune in.


The thing is Laura people get tired of trying. For example, the other day I did a competition for coins and points, the listeners got to about 40 odd (which is a lot these days) and everyone refused to do the next slot. That's just one occasion it happens a lot on a daily basis. Fair enough people might have things to do but it's the same people covering time and time again and I don't believe for a second 25 odd staff members are constantly busy at the exact same time. People make excuses, I have to go out, I have to do this but really they're just on skype and browsing the forum. They're entitled to that but it'd be nice if they lend and hand now and then.

There isn't any point in me trying to get high listeners then everyone 'cba' to go on air next. It's a team effort, always has been but it's lost now. Thanks for the comment too ;) I don't believe that though I think habboxlive have loads of fantastic djs much better than me, they just 'cba' most of the time.


@bethany (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=18342);
I think habboxlive has loads of potential but only if people get off their backside and help.

I understand what you mean about getting tired of trying, but have you brought it up with logan/the seniors? I'm not accusing you here I'm just saying if you don't say anything how are they meant to realise (especially if they're not as active as they could be, for whatever reason). If it's true only a few of the DJs are hosting, isn't it possible to force other people to do more shows? Or actually properly discipline them? I know these aren't things you can do by the way. If they're not interested in hosting after such a high profile event (which would probably get them more fans) then they obviously don't care about the job............ but no I really do think you deserve to have more power as I can imagine you being quite a good senior/manager, nice but still strict enough. That's what being a good manager is all about!!

[Richie]

really i didn't know that

hope it's not another department that just goes downhill because the manager doesn't seem to be open to ideas... if that is true anyway



I completely agree with you, I was just making a comment that perhaps Richie was just trying on his own rather than suggesting to Logan, as I didn't know whether he did this or not. At the end of the day, you can enforce things to be making people write more, even in News we've managed to get our staff churning out 1 article a day which is great compared to a few weeks ago when sometimes we'd have 3 or 4 per week.

Anyway back to HxL issue, we don't know what's going on behind, I think half the issue is because the DJs just can't be bothered to get involved with the community, whereas the ones that do (Maggots, Richie etc) are much more popular than some of the people who are hired fresh on Habbox with no community involvement, only have their Habbo friends to rely on to tune in.



I understand what you mean about getting tired of trying, but have you brought it up with logan/the seniors? I'm not accusing you here I'm just saying if you don't say anything how are they meant to realise (especially if they're not as active as they could be, for whatever reason). If it's true only a few of the DJs are hosting, isn't it possible to force other people to do more shows? Or actually properly discipline them? I know these aren't things you can do by the way. If they're not interested in hosting after such a high profile event (which would probably get them more fans) then they obviously don't care about the job............ but no I really do think you deserve to have more power as I can imagine you being quite a good senior/manager, nice but still strict enough. That's what being a good manager is all about!!

I haven't suggested it to Logan recently but unfortunately it's the same problems over and over again. After this thread I have no doubt that the department will pick up but two or three weeks down the line it's back to square one. It needs to be a constant.

[iLogan]

really i didn't know that

hope it's not another department that just goes downhill because the manager doesn't seem to be open to ideas... if that is true anyway



I completely agree with you, I was just making a comment that perhaps Richie was just trying on his own rather than suggesting to Logan, as I didn't know whether he did this or not. At the end of the day, you can enforce things to be making people write more, even in News we've managed to get our staff churning out 1 article a day which is great compared to a few weeks ago when sometimes we'd have 3 or 4 per week.

Anyway back to HxL issue, we don't know what's going on behind, I think half the issue is because the DJs just can't be bothered to get involved with the community, whereas the ones that do (Maggots, Richie etc) are much more popular than some of the people who are hired fresh on Habbox with no community involvement, only have their Habbo friends to rely on to tune in.



I understand what you mean about getting tired of trying, but have you brought it up with logan/the seniors? I'm not accusing you here I'm just saying if you don't say anything how are they meant to realise (especially if they're not as active as they could be, for whatever reason). If it's true only a few of the DJs are hosting, isn't it possible to force other people to do more shows? Or actually properly discipline them? I know these aren't things you can do by the way. If they're not interested in hosting after such a high profile event (which would probably get them more fans) then they obviously don't care about the job............ but no I really do think you deserve to have more power as I can imagine you being quite a good senior/manager, nice but still strict enough. That's what being a good manager is all about!!

That comes down to getting funding from General Management, which can be hard seeing that there is a lack of funding available.

In terms of suggestions and them not being considered is something new to me. Richie has suggested several changes to the department within the Suggestions Thread and they have been executed! In terms of planning shows, it is something that I think about for a little while and came up with this (with thanks to Richie for the idea)


I think we should try out a new subforum within the HabboxLive staff forum called "Show Plans" or something along those lines. Then in the subforum there is a thread for each DJ where they can plan their shows prior to going on air. I needn't be a big long essay either but something simple so they know what their doing, Richie's example of a Show Plan:



muse - supermassive black hole

**BACKING**

Give updates on the mute and how listener can win some medals

Nelly Furtado - Big Hoops
Blur - Song 2

******RB MIX JUNE ADVERTISEMENT*****

Sam Sparro - Paradise people
rebecca ferguson - gliter & gold

**BACKING**

Give details on the competition and explain to those who haven't already how they can enter the habbox olympics. A few shoutouts (If there is none and you have nothing to say you could make something up).

fat joe - ft ashanti - what's luv
rudimental - feel the love
kanye west - through the wire

**HXL GOSSIP MIX**

benny benassi ft gary go - cinema
coldplay - speed of sound

**BACKING**

Announce the winner of the competition, when i will be back on and the upcoming djs for the rest of the night.

m83 - midnight city
gwen stefani - what you waiting for

I think Show Plans should start off optional, but recommended. If successful we can look at how it can fit in to our medium / long term plans.

I'm always willing to take on board ideas and suggestions on how to improve the department.

[lawrawrrr]

That comes down to getting funding from General Management, which can be hard seeing that there is a lack of funding available.

In terms of suggestions and them not being considered is something new to me. Richie has suggested several changes to the department within the Suggestions Thread and they have been executed! In terms of planning shows, it is something that I think about for a little while and came up with this (with thanks to Richie for the idea)

I'm always willing to take on board ideas and suggestions on how to improve the department.

I'm not talking about funding, you don't need funding to sit with your microphone and some music. I meant, HabboxStarz gets 80 listeners, all the online DJs who say they aren't bothered about keeping Habbox online obviously don't care about the job/their fans or fanbase.

[Kyle]

Why isn't dj rain fired yet lol

[iLogan]

I'm not talking about funding, you don't need funding to sit with your microphone and some music. I meant, HabboxStarz gets 80 listeners, all the online DJs who say they aren't bothered about keeping Habbox online obviously don't care about the job/their fans or fanbase.

Oh right, sorry - didn't read your sentence correctly. It comes back round to my problem that I posted above:


In terms of getting DJs on air, it's a tricky one. We can't force people to go on air but if they're not doing their minimums then they will receive warnings and eventually get dismissed. In terms of motivation to book slots we do have a department-wide DJ points scheme where you receive points for booking slots, hosting events etc which can then be redeemed at the end of the month for rewards such as forum vip / rep and credits.

I'm not sure what more we can do in terms of motivating DJs to get on the radio. Does anyone have any suggestions?

It's quite a tricky one, but I'm all ears for suggestions.

[sex]

did you just reply to your own post lol

but i agree, need better djs. i only tune in for a few of them because they deliver a high standard

[lawrawrrr]

Oh right, sorry - didn't read your sentence correctly. It comes back round to my problem that I posted above:



It's quite a tricky one, but I'm all ears for suggestions.

I know one of my priorities when I first joined news management was to boost the number of articles, I really couldn't tell you how I did it. I think your problem MIGHT be that I'm going to assume your points means that DJs receive forum prizes - VIP and rep, etc but many of them don't actually use the forum so it's not a real incentive. That's not your fault, and noone can expect you to give out credits all the time, of course not, but it does make it very difficult. There are a lot of empty slots, how about raising the minimum?

[GoldenMerc]

to be fair i never listen to habboxlive anymore
when bethie was asst i'd listen a little but now its just yeh :/

[iLogan]

I know one of my priorities when I first joined news management was to boost the number of articles, I really couldn't tell you how I did it. I think your problem MIGHT be that I'm going to assume your points means that DJs receive forum prizes - VIP and rep, etc but many of them don't actually use the forum so it's not a real incentive. That's not your fault, and noone can expect you to give out credits all the time, of course not, but it does make it very difficult. There are a lot of empty slots, how about raising the minimum?

Jess always toyed with the idea of raising the minimum but it would place a large number of our current DJs in a position where they'd not be able to reach the minimum and would therefore have to resign in order to avoid being fired. I recently raised the pre-booked slots to two slots a week which should hopefully mean that the timetable should be a bit busier throughout the week rather than DJs randomly booking slots (which is fine but not very organized).

[GoldenMerc]

If your not going to make any changes, then the dept is just going to fall. Better making a radical change and hoping for the best than leaving it to sink

[Richie]

I think the minimum is fine. You should make it clear to your presenters that three slots a week minimum doesn't mean they can just stream three hours and get away with it because that's what the majority do. It should be three actual shows. If you look at the timetable atm you'll notice that a good five or six staff members are the only people who have pre-booked slots and even at that a lot of them just stream so the listeners will obviously be low. People are somehow dodging the net.

[iLogan]

If your not going to make any changes, then the dept is just going to fall. Better making a radical change and hoping for the best than leaving it to sink

I could change the minimum to 4 hours a week but that'd probably mean half the department needs to resign which means that the radio would be offline even more that it already is.

[lawrawrrr]

Jess always toyed with the idea of raising the minimum but it would place a large number of our current DJs in a position where they'd not be able to reach the minimum and would therefore have to resign in order to avoid being fired. I recently raised the pre-booked slots to two slots a week which should hopefully mean that the timetable should be a bit busier throughout the week rather than DJs randomly booking slots (which is fine but not very organized).

Only 2 a week? People can't give more than 2 hours a week?

EDIT: I mean, obviously they can go OVER the minimum but you only expect them to give 2 hours per?!?!?

[iLogan]

Only 2 a week? People can't give more than 2 hours a week?

EDIT: I mean, obviously they can go OVER the minimum but you only expect them to give 2 hours per?!?!?

All DJs are expected to complete a minimum of three slots a week, two of these slots must be pre-booked.

[Richie]

Only 2 a week? People can't give more than 2 hours a week?

EDIT: I mean, obviously they can go OVER the minimum but you only expect them to give 2 hours per?!?!?

I think he means, the minimum is three but you need to pre-book two in advance.


Compared to other departments 3 slots a week is very poor, I think 3 works fine but only if people actually do them slots. In the hxhd it's 5 hours a week.

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Why isn't dj rain fired yet lol

That was brought up in the past too. I did mention it to Mattg, not sure what the story is. I'm sure Rain is a lovely girl but as a head dj she doesn't meet her minimum, hasn't been posted away and Gina would be more than capable of taking on the position not to mention how active she is. So if she can't meet her minimum surely she should do the right thing and step down, give someone else the opportunity to show what they can do.

[-Nick]

Habboxlive does a big event every 6 months maybe... Thishabbo or when clubhabbo did have a radio... They did at least 3 giveaways a week... Personally... I would stop the lottery use that money to purchase bulk furni for giveaways !!

I remember when Melisa and Jess use to get sulake staff to come and do shows with them... Once there was to many listeners not every1 could listen... I am sure if Matt xxMATTGxx sent a email to sulake, one of there members (staff) would love and do a show...

Now a days I don't think the DJ's have the enthusiasm to do the job... Habboxlive normally have a 20-30 average listener rate... Other fansite which are giving away stuff in comps and events... Are getting popular...

But what happened to that competition on habbo.com with 20 credits each week :/

My suggestion is to...

Ask Jin and sierk to come and do a show on habboxlive of the history on habbox... In the show you could ask questions what people would like to see... And at the end giveaway a random gold bar....

Ask sulake staff to do shows... Every couple of months...

Get DJ's to be more enthusiastic of there shows... Make sure there on habbo etc... Maybe they can do events and on air comps...



Thanks

Nick

[lawrawrrr]

I think he means, the minimum is three but you need to pre-book two in advance.


Compared to other departments 3 slots a week is very poor, I think 3 works fine but only if people actually do them slots. In the hxhd it's 5 hours a week.

---------- Post added 22-08-2012 at 10:56 PM ----------



That was brought up in the past too. I did mention it to Mattg, not sure what the story is. I'm sure Rain is a lovely girl but as a head dj she doesn't meet her minimum, hasn't been posted away and Gina would be more than capable of taking on the position not to mention how active she is. So if she can't meet her minimum surely she should do the right thing and step down, give someone else the opportunity to show what they can do.

yes I can't believe it's only 3 a week, especially considering the amount of staff and the amount of empty slots!!!

[xxMATTGxx]

I don't really want to talk about specific staff members in the public. Although I am aware of a certain staff member that was brought to my attention - That's all I say about that for now.



Habboxlive does a big event every 6 months maybe... Thishabbo or when clubhabbo did have a radio... They did at least 3 giveaways a week... Personally... I would stop the lottery use that money to purchase bulk furni for giveaways !!

I remember when Melisa and Jess use to get sulake staff to come and do shows with them... Once there was to many listeners not every1 could listen... I am sure if Matt xxMATTGxx sent a email to sulake, one of there members (staff) would love and do a show...

Now a days I don't think the DJ's have the enthusiasm to do the job... Habboxlive normally have a 20-30 average listener rate... Other fansite which are giving away stuff in comps and events... Are getting popular...

But what happened to that competition on habbo.com with 20 credits each week :/

My suggestion is to...

Ask Jin and sierk to come and do a show on habboxlive of the history on habbox... In the show you could ask questions what people would like to see... And at the end giveaway a random gold bar....

Ask sulake staff to do shows... Every couple of months...

Get DJ's to be more enthusiastic of there shows... Make sure there on habbo etc... Maybe they can do events and on air comps...



Thanks

Nick

Sulake staff are no longer allowed to come on Habbo radios and staff visits are some what out of the question. This is due to them changing the fansite rules/polices/procedures/list and so on. In terms of Jin and Sierk - Could be possible one day but you have to understand they have pretty busy lives these days.

[MissAlice]

In terms of getting DJs on air, it's a tricky one. We can't force people to go on air but if they're not doing their minimums then they will receive warnings and eventually get dismissed. In terms of motivation to book slots we do have a department-wide DJ points scheme where you receive points for booking slots, hosting events etc which can then be redeemed at the end of the month for rewards such as forum vip / rep and credits.

I'm not sure what more we can do in terms of motivating DJs to get on the radio. Does anyone have any suggestions?



In terms of the non-unique listeners, the majority of the time our unique listeners and non-unique listeners are pretty much the same, never more than 2 or 3 listeners in difference.

The words in bold sound terrible!

It’s like appointing a moderator, who then doesn’t bother for whatever reason. You either want the position or you don’t. If they aren’t fulfilling the minimum requirement, don’t mess about, give them one opportunity to explain why, and if it’s reasonable okay fine, but if not make it a final warning.

As for being motivated, that comes when listeners begin regularly tuning in to the same dj’s! They need to be active to become more popular, for want of a better word.

I’m sure every dj attracts their own group of listeners, and the listeners will tune in again if they can clearly see that the dj has a pre booked slot.

Everyone loves music, and providing a variety of shows are pre booked, listeners will grow, but that won’t happen when slots are not being pre booked.

The current dj’s who are not meeting 2 hours a week need to go!

Good shows pre booked is the only way ahead.

[Alex3213]

The words in bold sound terrible!

It’s like appointing a moderator, who then doesn’t bother for whatever reason. You either want the position or you don’t. If they aren’t fulfilling the minimum requirement, don’t mess about, give them one opportunity to explain why, and if it’s reasonable okay fine, but if not make it a final warning.

As for being motivated, that comes when listeners begin regularly tuning in to the same dj’s! They need to be active to become more popular, for want of a better word.

I’m sure every dj attracts their own group of listeners, and the listeners will tune in again if they can clearly see that the dj has a pre booked slot.

Everyone loves music, and providing a variety of shows are pre booked, listeners will grow, but that won’t happen when slots are not being pre booked.

The current dj’s who are not meeting 2 hours a week need to go!

Good shows pre booked is the only way ahead.

Best post of the thread so far personally because it wraps the facts as concisely as possible. +rep

In absolutely full agreement with Alice here. Whilst I know that times are tough with the staffing issues and they don't come in infinite supply, dare I say it but some people may not want to join the department if they get the vision that staff are portrayed as lazy. I know I've been put off on a few fansites and even some departments at this time when members of the department don't seem to be doing that much when they should be to keep their department going. Get rid of the ones who aren't doing the requirement, what's the loss if they're not doing a considerable amount? If a Guest DJ is doing more than some of the DJs then there's something shocking going on and that needs to be addressed. Dismissing those who aren't doing that much could actually be better off for HabboxLive because at least the same faces are coming up again and again rather than Mr Billybob who turns up once a month.

I also agree with the 'every DJ attracts their own group of listeners' - a few years ago there were distinct groups followed by different DJs. I'd actually say that's a good thing - and it's because there were faces of the radio. That's exactly what you need, 'Chris Moyles - Breakfast Show' always rang a bell to me, even when the news came out recently that he was leaving, even though I've never listened to Radio 1 in my life. I hate relating Habbox to real life situations but I think the comparison I'm trying to make is that you need these faces that pop up regularly. You need a happy medium between the same faces coming up too much and just DJs who seem to DJ once in a blue moon. Perhaps I'm exaggerating a bit there but y'know :P

I also agree with the bottom part of the post too.

[FlyingJesus]

We can't force people to go on air

Probably ought to! They've signed up for the job, they ought to be doing it or get rid of them - there always seems to be a fairly decent number of applicants for DJ positions, and it may be a hassle to deal with such a carousel but as HxL manager that's what YOU've signed up to :P


It’s like appointing a moderator, who then doesn’t bother for whatever reason. You either want the position or you don’t.

Absolutely, I've never understood the idea that some departments can't "force" their people to work - you shouldn't have to!

[GoldenMerc]

the most awks thing about this thread, i got rejected as a DJ...

[sex]

the most awks thing about this thread, i got rejected as a DJ...

probably cause you would only play devlin

[GoldenMerc]

probably cause you would only play devlin

i don't just play devlin, more into pro green ngl;
http://icap.me/i/S97DT9RxFp.png

[FlyingJesus]

the most awks thing about this thread, i got rejected as a DJ...

lmao lowest of the low


Probably ought to! They've signed up for the job, they ought to be doing it or get rid of them - there always seems to be a fairly decent number of applicants for DJ positions, and it may be a hassle to deal with such a carousel but as HxL manager that's what YOU've signed up to :P

Yeah I agree xxxxxxx

[sex]

lmao tom. and ross love your now playing "britney spears - till the world ends" ;)

[GoldenMerc]

lmao tom. and ross love your now playing "britney spears - till the world ends" ;)

I like Britney Spear's music tyvm, guess further down gets less chavvy and more strange;
http://icap.me/i/4u6lhZsgRs.png

[FlyingJesus]

What's your fave Britney album I always find it hard to choose

OH THIS ISN'T EVEN SPAM OMF errr yeah radio radio hxl radio DJ hxl

[GoldenMerc]

What's your fave Britney album I always find it hard to choose

OH THIS ISN'T EVEN SPAM OMF errr yeah radio radio hxl radio DJ hxl

Circus by far, that was a long long time ago. shes rubbish now
anyways so are any changes actually happening to hxl

[Calvin]

we appear to be back here again. every six weeks.

everytime i say it and everytime it gets ignored but i honestly think habbo radio is finished: get rid of habboxlive and use the resources/the people to do other things.

perhaps get a section of news that focuses on live audio reports / audio rare values news. just transfer the skill.

wasting time.Not sure why but this post reminded me of this moment:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLEgh_0TIQ

But yeah, some good suggestions Richie although I'm not sure the folks at RadioDaddy will take you seriously as the majority of them are adults so would pay one visit to the site and decline the offer. There's no way to improve HabboxLive IMO because as Beth said, Habbo radio is finished (most likely due to the decline in support for fansites).

If you really want to make it work then shut down HabboxLive but bring back the radio as a non-Habbo station and promote it on Habbox.com and the forum. That way it's much easier to get older presenters and a wide variety of listeners rather than children. The only bad thing for you by doing this is that you'll receive more attention and therefore most likely be contacted by PPLUK to purchase licensing.. ;)

[FlyingJesus]

What how can you not like Femme Fatale it's FLAWLESS

I have heard a rumour that a certain ex-GM might be making a comeback as a guest DJ.......

[GoldenMerc]

What how can you not like Femme Fatale it's FLAWLESS

I have heard a rumour that a certain ex-GM might be making a comeback as a guest DJ.......

Its average only good songs are;
Till the world ends
n who nvrspk4?

[xxMATTGxx]

Its average only good songs are;
Till the world ends
n who nvrspk4?

Yeah he could be coming to do a show sometime soon! :P

[GoldenMerc]

ngl can't see it changing much, but he defiantly does deserve a spot as guest dj...

[xxMATTGxx]

ngl can't see it changing much, but he defiantly does deserve a spot as guest dj...

I wasn't saying bringing him on would change anything - It would be good to have him on HabboxLive for a show. Something different? :P

[GoldenMerc]

I wasn't saying bringing him on would change anything - It would be good to have him on HabboxLive for a show. Something different? :P

Yeh defiantly :D

[sex]

What how can you not like Femme Fatale it's FLAWLESS

I have heard a rumour that a certain ex-GM might be making a comeback as a guest DJ.......

i love femme fatale have u seen how skinny she is now.
habbox live needs a brintey hour

o/t why is remelkid even manager if he is afraid to make radical changes when they are needed? is it just a case of whos their the longest

[David]

rock hour please

[Foregetfuhl]

I've read this through a couple times and thought I would put my little bit of input in... Whether people actually listen to me is a different matter but I would hope that people would want to..

So anyway, last week I DJed for 14 hours in a row, and yeah it almost killed me.. but we had listeners I wasn't going to just close off the radio. In that time, two DJ's missed their slots and then at 2pm when I eventually found cover, that was also for another missed slot. It was a pain and it really did annoy me. By the end yeah I had a good time and what not but it really irritates me the little amount of work the DJs actually do.. There are eight members of staff maximum that actually reach their targets and do the required amount of slots and these are generally the people in senior and management positions and a couple of normal DJs. Even DJ Richie who was a Guest DJ was doing more than half of the DJs in the department. I have no idea how we can up those numbers. I always ask people to go on air and I always get declined and told that they don’t want to and unfortunately you can’t force people into it. Hence why again today I was stuck on air for another seven hours but I did get the listeners up to 62 so bonus for me woopwoop!

In regards to big events I’m actually currently planning a big event at the moment which I hope to do on the 23rd September but I can’t really say much more than that, most of the staff already know about it anyway, including the six DJs which will be taking part in it with me to help do double DJ slots and events throughout the five hour show and I have also made sure that at least the two hours before and after the five hour show have been filled by DJs even if they are those who are already taking part. This is something I have been planning since I got here and is something I will definitely do just the money costs means I can only add a small amount to the room every week. Otherwise I would have done it during HxSS.

There is an ideas thread in the HXL part of the forum but no one ever seems to comment. It’s a shame because I know there are DJs out there who must have some good ideas in regards to events etc. I think it would be beneficial if HXL were to work more closely with the events team as it would bring Habbox more closely together and the DJs and events staff can make sure that things are always going on, not just for HxSS but all the time. Unfortuantelty when HxSS ends I think that the bond that I have had with events will end I don’t particularly want it too.

I know some DJs are away what with it being summer holidays and some are already back at school but the majority are here and should be DJing I just wish that HXL could go back to what it was before and hopefully we can do something about it. I have tried my hardest to keep the radio online the past month that I have been here. And I’m sure some of the other DJs have been as well. I’m extremely sad that Richie isn’t staying with HXL as he is one of my closest friends in the department. But if he wants to leave then I can’t do much about it. I’m going to stay with HXL for as long as possible and put in the same amount of hard work I have been because I really don’t want it to close down.

HabboxLive has been getting so much stick recently but all of the listeners I have seem to enjoy it and as long as we are getting listeners there should not be a reason to end HXL. As far as I’m aware there are people in the department with the same views as me. I just hope that sooner rather than later HXL can be sorted and hopefully some of my ideas will be taken into consideration.

[GoldenMerc]

Looks like mr Garner is now taking over HxL

[Kardan]

Good to see action being taken so soon :)

[GoldenMerc]

Good to see action being taken so soon :)

Strange its not RemelKid doing them tho?

[MKR&*42]

Strange its not RemelKid doing them tho?

I think he's posted away isn't he? And we did all demand something be done quickly so looks like Matt jumped straight to it.

Unless there's some other reason.

[iLogan]

I think he's posted away isn't he? And we did all demand something be done quickly so looks like Matt jumped straight to it.

Unless there's some other reason.

I'm back but Matt insisted on posting that announcement.

[MKR&*42]

I'm back but Matt insisted on posting that announcement.

Oh hmm, ok :P

[GoldenMerc]

I think he's posted away isn't he? And we did all demand something be done quickly so looks like Matt jumped straight to it.

Unless there's some other reason.

lets not go around in a circle, hes too scared people will turn on him.

[iLogan]

lets not go around in a circle, hes too scared people will turn on him.

....


I'm back but Matt insisted on posting that announcement.

[GoldenMerc]

....

Maybe if you didn't need Matt to push you to do it, he'd let you do the annoucement yourself.
Seems you just want Matt to hold your hand along, this isn't the bottom stage RemelKid your a manager, your meant to be able to make decisions yourself. Yet you haven't you have let the dept carry on dying.

[xxMATTGxx]

lets not go around in a circle, hes too scared people will turn on him.

On who, me?

[GoldenMerc]

On who, me?

No, the person who's meant to be in charge of HxL

[xxMATTGxx]

I posted a thread to staff and managers this evening to remind them all of the policy we have about activity/awayness and so on. Which also stated that this will now be enforced even more - I then had a list of names of people who were potentially not doing anything at all in the HabboxLive department. I checked them all out and removed the ones that have done absolutely nothing or hardly anything this month. This wasn't to put shame to Logan at all and I gave him the list and told him what I was doing and he agreed.

[GoldenMerc]

I posted a thread to staff and managers this evening to remind them all of the policy we have about activity/awayness and so on. Which also stated that this will now be enforced even more - I then had a list of names of people who were potentially not doing anything at all in the HabboxLive department. I checked them all out and removed them all. This wasn't to put shame to Logan at all and I gave him the list and told him what I was doing and he agreed.
So Logan is at fault, considering some of his staff have been inactive for months...

[orientalframe?]

i think jade ( Foregetfuhl; ) deserves a large amount of credit, recently she has been many of the few djs who have been pulling their weight. the listeners she got were astounding (she got atleast 60, and even getting 30 is something at the moment) today, 7 hours on air and she was determined to keep the radio online until someone else came on. it's nice to see improvements being made already and hopefully the radio can gradually attract more interest.

[xxMATTGxx]

So Logan is at fault, considering some of his staff have been inactive for months...

I'm not going to play the blaming game :P

[MKR&*42]

i think jade @Foregetfuhl (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=104248);) deserves a large amount of credit, recently she has been many of the few djs who have been pulling their weight. the listeners she got were astounding (she got atleast 60, and even getting 30 is something at the moment) today, 7 hours on air and she was determined to keep the radio online until someone else came on. it's nice to see improvements being made already and hopefully the radio can gradually attract more interest.

7 hours? Jeez. Hats off to her. It's always great to see such strong dedication/determination haha. I imagine I'd listen to Habbox(Live) more when V7 comes out for some reason (considering we're all hoping the habbox site will be less laggier).

Wd on 7 hours though Jade.

[GoldenMerc]

I'm not going to play the blaming game :P

When there is only one manager, its not a game ;)

[Foregetfuhl]

7 hours? Jeez. Hats off to her. It's always great to see such strong dedication/determination haha. I imagine I'd listen to Habbox(Live) more when V7 comes out for some reason (considering we're all hoping the habbox site will be less laggier).

Wd on 7 hours though Jade.

Thank you so much :P Was fun either way, did 14 hours last week as we had listeners and I didn't really want to go offline.. was on from like midnight till 2pm.. fun times... :8

[MKR&*42]

Thank you so much :P Was fun either way, did 14 hours last week as we had listeners and I didn't really want to go offline.. was on from like midnight till 2pm.. fun times... :8

You did an all nighter to keep the listeners on Hxl? Aww that's so sweet haha. I know there's only a handful of listeners online in early morning (might be more when you were DJing) and it's impressive that you stayed on for them :)

[xxMATTGxx]

Thank you so much :P Was fun either way, did 14 hours last week as we had listeners and I didn't really want to go offline.. was on from like midnight till 2pm.. fun times... :8

Have you been given some sort of reward for that by the way? In terms of your 14 hours in one day.

[GoldenMerc]

Have you been given some sort of reward for that by the way? In terms of your 14 hours in one day.

A promotion would be nice :P

[Foregetfuhl]

Have you been given some sort of reward for that by the way? In terms of your 14 hours in one day.

Jazz treated me to her singing on Skype.. was beautiful.. <3

[orientalframe?]

A promotion would be nice :P

this.

[Foregetfuhl]

A promotion would be nice :P

I would never expect that, i haven't been here long enough and to be honest, there are other people in the dept. much more worthy :)

[GoldenMerc]

I would never expect that, i haven't been here long enough and to be honest, there are other people in the dept. much more worthy :)

ngl if you done 14 hours in a day obviously not

[Foregetfuhl]

ngl if you done 14 hours in a day obviously not

ngl.. i slept like a baby that next night though, best nights sleep ever thanks to Habbox.. :)

[GoldenMerc]

ngl.. i slept like a baby that next night though, best nights sleep ever thanks to Habbox.. :)

maybe you should try teach that to your fellow DJ's

[beth]

always think if people are willing to do 14 hours they will be taken advantage of. need to stand your ground and tell someone they will next take that spot. someone should give the girl some authority.

[Richie]

always think if people are willing to do 14 hours they will be taken advantage of. need to stand your ground and tell someone they will next take that spot. someone should give the girl some authority.

That's what I said to her today and when no-one will go on air you need to be firm when saying the radio will go offline.

[Foregetfuhl]

That's what I said to her today and when no-one will go on air you need to be firm when saying the radio will go offline.

I am firm about it, I literally have to beg people sometimes.. but you can't force people on..

[GoldenMerc]

I am firm about it, I literally have to beg people sometimes.. but you can't force people on..

let it die,
http://d3ny4pswk2x1ig.cloudfront.net/c61e5956fc5d9abecbb7fed1d0353f36ff1663129db1bcff36 0e12b6.jpg
you arnt the manager, your an employee (not really but yeh)

[MissAlice]

I am firm about it, I literally have to beg people sometimes.. but you can't force people on..


You shouldn’t need to beg or force! Surely you become a HxL dj because you want to entertain listeners!

It’s very admirable to devote so much time to keeping Habbox ‘Staying A’ Live, and seriously I applaud you, you are making a fantastic effort. Well done you should be rewarded as well as a few others too for their continuous dedication.

Unfortunately you will begin to burn out, because you need the support of others. You need breaks so that you can feel relaxed and be prepared for your next planned slot.

Every dj that regularly pre books slots (like you) is very much part of a team, and those that don’t are not. If you ran a music store, and only 8 out of 30 staff turned up regularly, what would you do? The 8 who regularly show up, might start feeling that too much is expected of them and in time will begin to feel demoralised and also feel it’s time to slow down or quit, particularly when they read or see remarks slating the music store. Any potential customers (listeners) will see the store is struggling and go elsewhere. This seems to be the situation with HxL, it needs continuous teamwork.

The team needs to show commitment :)

[lawrawrrr]

I am firm about it, I literally have to beg people sometimes.. but you can't force people on..

just want to say i think you're amazing, i tuned in towards the end of that long run and you didnt even give off an air of boredom. It's people like you who keep Habbox going, so keep up the amazing work!!

Yeah I do agree that inactivity has to be cracked down on MUCH more, with people reporting lazy staff as there might be a normal member who'd kill for that spot, and would actually put the work in. Yet to read this magical new thread though (not being sarcastic dw), but hopefully it'll improve things!!

Wish more people would be like you, if you hardly ever want to DJ why on EARTH would you keep the job? I understand you can't be free all the time but I know a lot of DJs do 2 things at once, line some music up and talk every so often? Even streaming is better than offline, and then you just have to sort out the music!!

[Robbie]

lets all riot in hallway 1

Edited by Chris (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts!

[chantellehugs]

I think the minimum is fine. You should make it clear to your presenters that three slots a week minimum doesn't mean they can just stream three hours and get away with it because that's what the majority do. It should be three actual shows. If you look at the timetable atm you'll notice that a good five or six staff members are the only people who have pre-booked slots and even at that a lot of them just stream so the listeners will obviously be low. People are somehow dodging the net.

100% agree with this, if DJ's are going to stream it shouldn't be counted towards their minimum.

[Chippiewill]

the most awks thing about this thread, i got rejected as a DJ...
Why would someone active on the forum be denied, aren't they the most likely to be enthusiastic?

[RealClifford]

Why would someone active on the forum be denied, aren't they the most likely to be enthusiastic?

I also got denied, and I am an active member + a former DJ for HxL and to make it even better I am from a time zone of which is lacking ALOT of DJ's..
makes me wonder if the department is even cared for anymore.

[Grig]

People don't want to work at HxL, cause it isn't fun anymore. You go on air and you will be stuck for hours on air. ThisHabbo do it with masses of giveaways all throughout primetime and beyond. Jess believed that this was a wrong philosophy. I also did and thought that we could create stuff that other radios didn't do, like I submitted a show for a kinda Habbox/Habboy, E News!/ heckler type of show, which would really get the community interested.

But if all HxL does is have the same 4 DJs on air everyday, it won't work. People want fun and unique stuff. I was sorting out perm shows as well. However, then DJs weren't ready or left. Having no proper perm shows in so long is also very bad. These were always popular. Then there was proposals to do some newsbeats, which would have been really nice, but not sure what's happening with that either. There are ideas, even ideas for plays and stuff, but they aren't being used enough.

Bethie mentioned a good point about the karaoke. The reason it was always successful was because of the planning. It's not DJ talent or what not. It is hard to pull off shows with poor planning. However, not doing it would have been bad. For I had to set up that initiative as well as trying to get together stuff for other recent big events. I would rather we have them, then not have them at all.

I'm not surprised DJs are leaving, if I was them, I wouldn't want to stay as HxL currently has no major initiatives for DJs to stay. It does feel disjointed and I myself wasn't able to bring it together more. Although I was surprised Logan didn't do staff bonding in ages. I set something up before I left, hopefully Logan picked up on it. Alas, maybe radio fansites are a thing of the past and resources should be put into something more productive. Scale back, don't thin k of filling 24/7 slots and focus on the quality. That's what's missing. So when Logan was telling me we needed int. times filling, that was extremely wrong. You cannot say that when the UK is in a mess.

Probably missed bits and bobs, but anyway this is the gist.

[CaptainAce]

It's a shame to see the department in the state that it is in however, im not suprised. Back when I was a DJ it got to the point where I thought, why bother continue DJing because at the end of day. It's not a team effort anymore, its more of a few people effort. In regards of Logan, when I put ideas to him he would always say to me, he'll look into it or that my ideas were not good ones and basically, he wouldn't give any more thought on it.

One of these ideas included the idea of getting news people on air to read some news. (Not instead of posting it on site but to add something to the shows) I even discussed it with Laura who liked the idea. When I saw Logan was not listening to me I quit. Because at the end of the day, I couldn't make a difference if the manager was not willing to at least try the idea out. I also hated having to stream alot because I couldn't find a DJ to take over. Another thing is, the DJ team are not as close as they used to be which doesn't really help with motivation. This is just my little bit of imput, thanks for reading.

[Foregetfuhl]

One of these ideas included the idea of getting news people on air to read some news. (Not instead of posting it on site but to add something to the shows) I even discussed it with Laura who liked the idea. When I saw Logan was not listening to me I quit. Because at the end of the day, I couldn't make a difference if the manager was not willing to at least try the idea out. I also hated having to stream alot because I couldn't find a DJ to take over. Another thing is, the DJ team are not as close as they used to be which doesn't really help with motivation. This is just my little bit of imput, thanks for reading.

I actually thought about this as an idea a couple weeks ago.. I mean it would need serious working out.. but it could work with the proper planning etc. Especially if you wanted them on air with the actual DJ you would need to make sure most of the DJs had VAC which doesn't actually work for most of the DJs.. I'm stll currently trying to find a 64-bit version to no avail -_-.. But this is something I had a thought about...

[CaptainAce]

I actually thought about this as an idea a couple weeks ago.. I mean it would need serious working out.. but it could work with the proper planning etc. Especially if you wanted them on air with the actual DJ you would need to make sure most of the DJs had VAC which doesn't actually work for most of the DJs.. I'm stll currently trying to find a 64-bit version to no avail -_-.. But this is something I had a thought about...

Well if you can convince Logan to do it and you manage to get it to work. I would be more then willing to read out some news on air. I still have my alright mic from when I was a DJ XD Im sure that maybe some of the other news reporters would be willing to do it too though you would have to ask them as I cannot speak for them. By the way, keep up the good work your doing for habboxlive.

[Foregetfuhl]

Well if you can convince Logan to do it and you manage to get it to work. I would be more then willing to read out some news on air. I still have my alright mic from when I was a DJ XD Im sure that maybe some of the other news reporters would be willing to do it too though you would have to ask them as I cannot speak for them. By the way, keep up the good work your doing for habboxlive.

I have a very big list of ideas in a word document on my computer at the moment lol.. Might send them on to Logan with a tweak because some of the ideas are a bit... stupid hahahahaha. Hopefully some of them will be considered :)

[Samantha]

Just been reading this thread again and yeah its great somethings being done but Gina got promoted, mentioned in this thread that she should be. How come the idea of a promotion such as Emma, Gina etc has to come from a thread and not the manager himself, he should be tuning in as much as he can and making a decision himself. If we can just tell you people who should be promoted then jade should for a start, some more should be fired but it shouldn't be left to a thread or matt doing anything, you run that department it's your responsibility. Yes you may be away but who did you ask to overlook the department whilst you were away other than head djs as I assume they cant fire anyone?

It seems those you decline want to work for Habbox and of anything why not give them a chance over others, give them a trial, GoldenMerc; did a stupid application for rare values but he was one of the most hard working ones in the department, maybe he isn't the one who jumps out at you but its usually those who surprise you and make a big difference.

[iLogan]

Just been reading this thread again and yeah its great somethings being done but Gina got promoted, mentioned in this thread that she should be. How come the idea of a promotion such as Emma, Gina etc has to come from a thread and not the manager himself, he should be tuning in as much as he can and making a decision himself. If we can just tell you people who should be promoted then jade should for a start, some more should be fired but it shouldn't be left to a thread or matt doing anything, you run that department it's your responsibility. Yes you may be away but who did you ask to overlook the department whilst you were away other than head djs as I assume they cant fire anyone?

It seems those you decline want to work for Habbox and of anything why not give them a chance over others, give them a trial, GoldenMerc; did a stupid application for rare values but he was one of the most hard working ones in the department, maybe he isn't the one who jumps out at you but its usually those who surprise you and make a big difference.

I tune into DJs regularly and I decided that after seeing how hard Gina works both on-air and off-air (in terms of her senior duties) I decided to promote her. Emma was promoted under the same circumstances. I asked the Head DJs to overlook the department whilst I was away and even if they can't dismiss people they still have the power to issue warnings etc. If it got to a point where a DJ was breaking many rules then they would have been dismissed by GM.

Never received an application from Goldenmerc

[Jurv]

i've only read a few of the posts in this thread but i'd thought i'd make a comment regarding the job applications.

if i was in logans position i would probably accept as many trialists as possible, because lets face it, the department needs all the support it can get at the moment. if the application was satisfactory and doesn't really stand out, who cares? you might as well give them a chance. where they may lack with a good application they may make up on the radio itself. but yh obviously if they sound like they're eating the mic and you can't understand a word they're saying i could understand for you not giving them a trial. perhaps it would be a good idea if some contact was made with some of the older djs?

i know RedClifford; was a really good dj when he was staff. it's a shame he's unable to return!!

[GoldenMerc]

I tune into DJs regularly and I decided that after seeing how hard Gina works both on-air and off-air (in terms of her senior duties) I decided to promote her. Emma was promoted under the same circumstances. I asked the Head DJs to overlook the department whilst I was away and even if they can't dismiss people they still have the power to issue warnings etc. If it got to a point where a DJ was breaking many rules then they would have been dismissed by GM.

Never received an application from Goldenmerc

Grig got a app....

[Foregetfuhl]

HabboxLive Radio Improvement Ideas

• Include other departments, once or twice a week have news reporters, rare reporters etc. come on air or record a 3 minute segment containing the recent news. For example: captainace could record a 3 minute segment with the lowdown on Habbo.com and in the real world.

• HxL works with events to correspond shows and events. This way DJs can advertise events in all shows without the aggro of having to look and without the events team having to beg the DJs to advertise their event.

• Staff bonding at least once a month. Half of the DJs don’t even speak to each other, and to be honest I think all the departments need to talk to each other. Habbox is a community and HxSS shouldn’t be one of the only times I speak to the events staff or HxHD staff.

• Throughout the hour competitions to keep listeners tuned in the whole time rather than the ten minutes a normal competition lasts. Like a guessing game.
For example: Throughout the hour give clues to an object and allow people to send in entries, the first person to send in the correct answer wins. For example gives clues every time you speak after your two/three songs and then it keeps listeners tuned in and you can give away credits for this. The more we get the listeners involved the better.

• Every week have different weekly shows. I love chart music along with Liam, we could do a two hour show on a Sunday after the chart has been released and do the official Top 30 for that week according to Radio 1/Capital etc. Alistair likes his rock stuff so let him do an hour on that every week. There are millions of ideas and I’m sure most of the DJs would want to take part in some form of weekly show. Other ideas: Only The Oldies, Top Ten Most Played Songs on Habbox that week. This can be sorted out at DJ meetings too.

• Host big events involving all HxL and maybe other staff members at least once a month such as giveaways, maze rooms, big brother but with Habbos, karaoke with entertaining songs, not necessarily the best singer etc. (Funds Permitted Obviously, if not use Forum VIP etc.). Maybe even do a win a room competition every week with double DJ’s like Oliver and Gina since they have great on air chemistry and understand how to do it.

• Like other Fansites, allow the users to vote their favourite DJs using like a little star or heart to favourite next to the radio on the website. It gives you an idea for DJ of the Week and also gives the DJs feedback of how well they are doing without the RM, HDJ or SDJ having to do it all the time as well.

• DJs need to plan their shows, I know some people can just wing it and whatever. But I think if people have a basic idea of what they are going to say and what they want to do then they need to make sure that they are not uming and arring throughout the whole show.

• Also, I don’t think three shows a week is a enough, especially with how dismal the timetable is looking at the moment. I propose that for the time being maybe weekly slots should be increased to four shows a week just until HxL is back on its feet and doing what it should be.


These ideas are just sort of things that were thought off and may have already been suggested but there just things I noticed and have posted in the HxL Suggestions thread..

[MKR&*42]

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In regards to the button which would allow people to 'like' their favourite DJs, I think that wouldn't be introduced because certain DJs may feel disliked/useless if they don't get as many "favourites/likes" as another DJ. It was one of the reasons why we couldn't see how many views our News Articles had in news, in case any of us lost morale because ours wouldn't get as many views as others etc. That's the only issue I can see with it, it'd be down to Logan and then someone else if they did want it.

I'm all for the Karaoke idea - the HabboxStarz thing got about 75 listeners which was fairly impressive, i can't wait to see how many the final of it gets but I am all in support of a regular karaoke event.

I pretty much agree with all your other ideas, I won't analyse them all though :P
-- @LissaW (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=37743); for a first show on Habbox, you're doing quite well :).

(Yes, I'm actually tuned into HabboxLive for once xD).

[Zelda]

Tbh ik he probably wont since he never does listen to any ideas people have it seems, but logan you really should be listening to jade here, shes pretty much summed up the publics views tbh.

I wouldnt agree on the like button as warren has said tho but other then that i also pretty much agree with everything there. Im not sure how news stuff would get on but ik stacey doesnt mind doing it so i dont think that would be a problem.

[Foregetfuhl]

Tbh ik he probably wont since he never does listen to any ideas people have it seems, but logan you really should be listening to jade here, shes pretty much summed up the publics views tbh.

I wouldnt agree on the like button as warren has said tho but other then that i also pretty much agree with everything there. Im not sure how news stuff would get on but ik stacey doesnt mind doing it so i dont think that would be a problem.

The only reason I suggested this was because many DJs who I have spoken to say they never get praised for good/hard work and I thought this may be a way for them to be praised a little?

[MKR&*42]

The only reason I suggested this was because many DJs who I have spoken to say they never get praised for good/hard work and I thought this may be a way for them to be praised a little?

In a sense it is praise, but then it does give the one with the most likes the possibility of an ego boost which isn't always a good thing. It could also create some kind of hierarchy really and would basically show which DJs are popular amongst people and which DJs are considered bad. I personally I wouldn't like to find out how "liked" I am if I was a DJ :P

If the ones that input a lot of hard work aren't getting praised, then I'm quite concerned really. I won't be quick to "jump the gun" and blame someone though.

[CaptainAce]

Dear RemelKiid
Please listen to Foregetfuhl and the community. Do not fob our ideas off like you have been doing the last, however many months it has been. Jade speaks sense and we as the community agree. It's important you take our ideas on board and use them to change the current situation of habboxlive. Otherwise your department will forever continue to go on a downhill spiral. Remember there is no I in a team but there is a WE. Thank you, an ex DJ.

[Zelda]

The only reason I suggested this was because many DJs who I have spoken to say they never get praised for good/hard work and I thought this may be a way for them to be praised a little?

what warren said really. It can also create a lack of confidence in some people before they get known, which isnt really what is desired i would imagine, and could lead to them resigning bfeore they have a chance.

[Foregetfuhl]

what warren said really. It can also create a lack of confidence in some people before they get known, which isnt really what is desired i would imagine, and could lead to them resigning bfeore they have a chance.

Yeah I completely agree with that, just was a suggestion since I know a lot of other fan sites do it, and don't jump on me and say that we aren't other fan sites please!! LOL! I know we get monthly reports so that is some form of feedback but obviously if DJs do good work throughout surely that should be praised throughout as well?

[Samantha]

With news I suggested a private one, such as each unique view would tally for the managers so we could see how many were viewing reports. If the vote was private say only heads and management could look at it I think it coul work better.
Foregetfuhl; I've always wanted to do giveaways in news but haven't thought of how they'd get the furni if you get what I mean pairing up with hxl if it was allowed whereby the dj would say the code on air could work maybe. laura;

[Zelda]

Yeah I completely agree with that, just was a suggestion since I know a lot of other fan sites do it, and don't jump on me and say that we aren't other fan sites please!! LOL! I know we get monthly reports so that is some form of feedback but obviously if DJs do good work throughout surely that should be praised throughout as well?

yep definitely, needs more motivation atm especially considering hxl is already going to the dogs, i think rewards for that more would really help to get people to the standard of you and a few others :)

[Foregetfuhl]

yep definitely, needs more motivation atm especially considering hxl is already going to the dogs, i think rewards for that more would really help to get people to the standard of you and a few others :)

Well we have DJ points in place, which is always a good incentive as you get them from doing slots/events etc. and you get bonuses for every 10 slots you do. And do we no longer do staff of the month etc.? (Gina babe you gotta get that ;)

[Zelda]

havent had it for the last couple of months, dunno why lol

+ ah thats good yea, though i think it couldnt hurt to have more incentives in place when its in this state ;P

[MKR&*42]

havent had it for the last couple of months, dunno why lol

+ ah thats good yea, though i think it couldnt hurt to have more incentives in place when its in this state ;P

Really? We've had SOTM in Content and I know HxHD had it.

We still do SOTM right? xxMATTGxx;

[Zelda]

Really? We've had SOTM in Content and I know HxHD had it.

We still do SOTM right? @xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020);

oh i was on about public one that comes into the announcements, we still have in department ones ya

[MKR&*42]

oh i was on about public one that comes into the announcements, we still have in department ones ya

Oh I see. We have it, it just doesn't get publicly announced xD.

Really, that's how you spell "publicly" hmmk.

[Samantha]

Matts been away and it usually gets me forcing him to post it before he does I'll tell ya. Anyway jade pmed me informing of this rvent she's plannig think really would help if events were back on client too.

[Foregetfuhl]

Matts been away and it usually gets me forcing him to post it before he does I'll tell ya. Anyway jade pmed me informing of this rvent she's plannig think really would help if events were back on client too.

Shhhh.... its a secret ;) hahaha

[Samantha]

Shhhh.... its a secret ;) hahaha

You mentioned it in the thread earlier ;) dw it's an event, that's all xD.

[Foregetfuhl]

You mentioned it in the thread earlier ;) dw it's an event, that's all xD.

Okay lol true, you got me, anyway all will be announced come 2nd September ;)

[BOOMitsGINA]

I have to admit that I agree with all the points made.
I think the like option is actually a good idea because it lets you know if you are doing a good job or not and gives you a heads up. But then I again i can understand why it wouldnt be a good option because DJs could always go a bit over the line with how much likes they would get and shove it in other djs faces. If that makes sense? But hopefully all the DJs would be a mature about it.
All the other ideas i completely agree with and when V7 comes out I think things will improve (hopefully!!) The thing about habbox which really stands out is everyone isnt afraid to speak up about their oppinion and will stand up to see if things get sorted.
I think the part which you mentioned of themed shows would especially help out, we need weekly shows! We have none at the moment which is a real shame and its something which gets the listeners wanted to tune in because it is entertaining!
I do think that staff of the month option should come back because I think it helps out a hell of a lot with DJs confidence. I know that for a fact because when I got DJ of the month once it helped me know that I was doing a good job within the department and that it was noticed. I think thats what everyone thinks if you get staff of the month, you are being noticed and you know that you need to keep up with everything you are doing.

[iLogan]

Grig got a app....

Never got brought to my attention so you'd have to speak to Grig to find out why you were rejected.


HabboxLive Radio Improvement Ideas

• Include other departments, once or twice a week have news reporters, rare reporters etc. come on air or record a 3 minute segment containing the recent news. For example: captainace could record a 3 minute segment with the lowdown on Habbo.com and in the real world.
I had a PM earlier this month from someone who was really keen in producing news-clips to be played on HxL every so often and I'm still waiting to hear back from him. If that fizzles out then I'd deffo be in contact with the news department about the possibility of them creating clips.


• HxL works with events to correspond shows and events. This way DJs can advertise events in all shows without the aggro of having to look and without the events team having to beg the DJs to advertise their event.
Hmm, I'm not really sure what you're suggesting here? I've requested a couple features for the V7 DJ Panel which means it should be easier to find out if there is an event on during your slot and even to have the DJ Says automatically updated if there is an event on.

• Staff bonding at least once a month. Half of the DJs don’t even speak to each other, and to be honest I think all the departments need to talk to each other. Habbox is a community and HxSS shouldn’t be one of the only times I speak to the events staff or HxHD staff.
Agreed but staff bonding would only involved HxL staff. If you're interested in a Habbox staff-wide bonding then you'd need to contact @Inseriousity.;

• Throughout the hour competitions to keep listeners tuned in the whole time rather than the ten minutes a normal competition lasts. Like a guessing game.
For example: Throughout the hour give clues to an object and allow people to send in entries, the first person to send in the correct answer wins. For example gives clues every time you speak after your two/three songs and then it keeps listeners tuned in and you can give away credits for this. The more we get the listeners involved the better.
Good idea, but I'm not really sure what you want me to do about this one. We can always suggest this to DJs though!

• Every week have different weekly shows. I love chart music along with Liam, we could do a two hour show on a Sunday after the chart has been released and do the official Top 30 for that week according to Radio 1/Capital etc. Alistair likes his rock stuff so let him do an hour on that every week. There are millions of ideas and I’m sure most of the DJs would want to take part in some form of weekly show. Other ideas: Only The Oldies, Top Ten Most Played Songs on Habbox that week. This can be sorted out at DJ meetings too.
Yeah, looking into perm shows at the moment.

• Host big events involving all HxL and maybe other staff members at least once a month such as giveaways, maze rooms, big brother but with Habbos, karaoke with entertaining songs, not necessarily the best singer etc. (Funds Permitted Obviously, if not use Forum VIP etc.). Maybe even do a win a room competition every week with double DJ’s like Oliver and Gina since they have great on air chemistry and understand how to do it.
Yeah agreed, that's our aim already really and it's usually funding that holds us back.

• Like other Fansites, allow the users to vote their favourite DJs using like a little star or heart to favourite next to the radio on the website. It gives you an idea for DJ of the Week and also gives the DJs feedback of how well they are doing without the RM, HDJ or SDJ having to do it all the time as well.
I'm a bit against this idea because I think whilst it would motivate those DJs receiving many votes, it would do the opposite and demotivate those who aren't getting many.

• DJs need to plan their shows, I know some people can just wing it and whatever. But I think if people have a basic idea of what they are going to say and what they want to do then they need to make sure that they are not uming and arring throughout the whole show.
You don't need a show plan to not erm and argh throughout your show :P But I do agree that shows sometimes do need to be more structured and I will speak to Matt again about getting a space set up where DJs can make show plans.

• Also, I don’t think three shows a week is a enough, especially with how dismal the timetable is looking at the moment. I propose that for the time being maybe weekly slots should be increased to four shows a week just until HxL is back on its feet and doing what it should be.
Hmm yeah. I think that we need to up the limit but I was thinking perhaps instead of raising it to 4 a week perhaps have it still at a minimum of 3 per week but by the end of the month you're required to host 18 slots (instead of 15) so you can space it out at your own time, it that makes any sense :P


These ideas are just sort of things that were thought off and may have already been suggested but there just things I noticed and have posted in the HxL Suggestions thread..

Put my replies in blue

[Foregetfuhl]

Put my replies in blue

Well I hope they have helped in some way and can be looked at in the future. I know it was a bit over the place I was in a bit of rage to be honest when I typed it.. But I would hope that there are some things on there that can be included into HxL in the future. And hopefully the extra features you requested on the panel will happen ;)

[CaptainAce]

RemelKiid


Second Idea - I think she means can Events People and DJs not communicate more.

Fourth Idea - I don't think she wanted you to do anything about it. This idea looks to be like its for DJs only.

Fifth Idea - Could you not write down some perm shows people could do in a thread, for example.
[Free] - Karoke
[Free] - Rock Show
[Free] - Chart Show

Sixth Idea - Doesn't habbox lottery help to fund you? If so shouldn't you be trying to sell some tickets?

Eighth Idea - I don't think she was suggesting you need a show plan to not erm and argh through-out the show. I think she meant it as in write down what your gunna say or at least talk about before the show.

[LissaW]

@LissaW (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=37743); for a first show on Habbox, you're doing quite well :).

(Yes, I'm actually tuned into HabboxLive for once xD).

Thank you so much! :D

[iLogan]

RemelKiid


Second Idea - I think she means can Events People and DJs not communicate more.

Fourth Idea - I don't think she wanted you to do anything about it. This idea looks to be like its for DJs only.

Fifth Idea - Could you not write down some perm shows people could do in a thread, for example.
[Free] - Karoke
[Free] - Rock Show
[Free] - Chart Show

Sixth Idea - Doesn't habbox lottery help to fund you? If so shouldn't you be trying to sell some tickets?

Eighth Idea - I don't think she was suggesting you need a show plan to not erm and argh through-out the show. I think she meant it as in write down what your gunna say or at least talk about before the show.

I'll have to have a think about what we can do to get EOs and DJs communicating more.

As I said before I'm sorting out perm shows but yeah I like the idea of having some ones that have already been thought of to be available for DJs to choose to do.

Habbox Lottery does help fund us but we get half of what we sell. To host a competition where you can win 50 credits I'd need to sell 100 lottery tickets. HabboxLive is the biggest department at Habbox so I am quite busy with the day to day running to be dedicating hours and hours of selling tickets.

[Inseriousity.]

You should merge the two. Get online DJing and sell tickets like @bethany (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=18342); used to do and she sold 100 with this method so it's very easily done.
I've sold 139 this month and that's without dedicating hours and hours. The truth is you don't really try.

[CaptainAce]

RemelKiid - You don't always have to do competitions for a large amount of credits. Im sure people will be grateful for a 10 credit competition. At the end of the day, people want comps. Big or small. I don't think they are too fussed. You also knew it was a large department and would require alot of work when you accepted the job as assistant manager. You knew one day you would be manager.

[Grig]

Are you ******* kidding me? This is a job that people do for fun. Three is more than enough. If you keep increasing slot amounts, people will think it's as if you're forcing them to do more and more. Other fansites don't seem to have the need to go and do 4 slots either. Some people cba cause it looks more as a chore if more and more stupid rules get implemented.

Ross, don't think I got your app :P?

[Zelda]

Ye 4 a week is ridiculous quite frankly, at most ask for like 1/2 extra hours put in a month but doing that you will only end up with less s lots filled cause people wil resign cause they cant fit that much time and less trialists will apply because of it.

[beth]

You should merge the two. Get online DJing and sell tickets like @bethany (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=18342); used to do and she sold 100 with this method so it's very easily done.
I've sold 139 this month and that's without dedicating hours and hours. The truth is you don't really try.

the skill to selling tickets is being in the right place at the right time. and finding the opportunities to make sales.

if habbox starz is going on at the moment you should do a win a room that Sammy; and i used to do and run lottery competitions alongside. every person who buys a ticket gets entered to a draw to win some furni or some credits or something.

[:odey:]

You should merge the two. Get online DJing and sell tickets like @bethany (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=18342); used to do and she sold 100 with this method so it's very easily done.
I've sold 139 this month and that's without dedicating hours and hours. The truth is you don't really try.

I think Mike's the only one I've ever seen selling lottery tickets, ngl,
And Rosy once or twice,

But it's obviously the bigger competitions and prizes that hook the listeners,
Look at HxSS.

So, I think more effort needs to be put in to raising prizes...

[xxMATTGxx]

No point complaining about funds when you aren't trying hard to enough to raise them yourself via the lottery sales. Asking GM about funds is also never out of the question.

[iLogan]

No point complaining about funds when you aren't trying hard to enough to raise them yourself via the lottery sales. Asking GM about funds is also never out of the question.

I asked for 50c towards HabboxStarz and didn't get it.

[xxMATTGxx]

I asked for 50c towards HabboxStarz and didn't get it.

And how many lottery tickets have you sold in July and August?

[iLogan]

And how many lottery tickets have you sold in July and August?

None. I didn't know I had to sell Lottery tickets to be eligible to request funding.

[GoldenMerc]

None. I didn't know I had to sell Lottery tickets to be eligible to request funding.

Santa tought me something, give to receive

[xxMATTGxx]

None. I didn't know I had to sell Lottery tickets to be eligible to request funding.

You don't but you mention funding in this feedback thread and previous ones when you could have sold lottery tickets to help towards that. Mike stated in this thread that he has sold 139 tickets this month - If you tried to sell them and got near enough the same amount then that is 139 credits you could used towards any sort of event for HabboxLive.

[iLogan]

Santa tought me something, give to receive

I don't see why managers should have to work to fund their departments. Sure, if you're running low and need a couple of credits to host a small competition then yeah sell some lottery tickets. The core funding for HxL (which is non-existent) shouldn't have to come from lottery sales

[xxMATTGxx]

I don't see why managers should have to work to fund their departments. Sure, if you're running low and need a couple of credits to host a small competition then yeah sell some lottery tickets. The core funding for HxL (which is non-existent) shouldn't have to come from lottery sales

You don't even try. That is what Mike was getting at - It's fine complaining about funding for sure. We don't just get credits into our inventories with ease. But when you aren't even trying to raise the funds for the department via a system that has been put into place for a couple of months now. Then that is where a problem starts.

[iLogan]

You don't but you mention funding in this feedback thread and previous ones when you could have sold lottery tickets to help towards that. Mike stated in this thread that he has sold 139 tickets this month - If you tried to sell them and got near enough the same amount then that is 139 credits you could used towards any sort of event for HabboxLive.

Like I said before, if I had the time then I would sell lottery tickets. I haven't got this big hate towards the lottery or anything, I just simply have no time.

[GoldenMerc]

Like I said before, if I had the time then I would sell lottery tickets. I haven't got this big hate towards the lottery or anything, I just simply have no time.

so your exempt from doing stuff that other managers have to do? That makes sense, what makes you so special?

[iLogan]

so your exempt from doing stuff that other managers have to do? That makes sense, what makes you so special?

Other managers aren't required to sale lottery tickets, they can do so at their free will. I'll try and make time to sell lottery tickets but if people are wanting big events each month then I shouldn't be expected to try and fund it completely via lottery sales, GM should be willing to help out.

[FlyingJesus]

I don't see why managers should have to work to fund their departments.

ARE YOU ACTUALLY JOKING WITH THIS STATEMENT

What do you think the manager role means? I'm guessing that for you it's just a status thing that you wanted so that you could lord it over the others, because you seem totally unwilling to actually do anything, and then you say that you have no time - if that's the case, you should step down rather than shrug it off and say that you can't do it.

[xxMATTGxx]

Other managers aren't required to sale lottery tickets, they can do so at their free will. I'll try and make time to sell lottery tickets but if people are wanting big events each month then I shouldn't be expected to try and fund it completely via lottery sales, GM should be willing to help out.

Time seems to be an issue that keeps cropping up in this thread - Which also gets me questioning if you need help in managing the department or you don't have time to do it altogether.


Like I said before, if I had the time then I would sell lottery tickets. I haven't got this big hate towards the lottery or anything, I just simply have no time.

I don't think General Management would have a problem helping you out there if you actually did try to sell lottery tickets to put towards the funding for HabboxLive events.

[iLogan]

ARE YOU ACTUALLY JOKING WITH THIS STATEMENT

What do you think the manager role means? I'm guessing that for you it's just a status thing that you wanted so that you could lord it over the others, because you seem totally unwilling to actually do anything, and then you say that you have no time - if that's the case, you should step down rather than shrug it off and say that you can't do it.

I manage the department, I hire new DJs, I make sure that the DJs are doing their minimums, I make sure the Head DJs are confident with what they're doing. HabboxLive is a very high maintenance department so I haven't got the time to sell masses of lottery tickets.

[GoldenMerc]

I manage the department, I hire new DJs, I make sure that the DJs are doing their minimums, I make sure the Head DJs are confident with what they're doing. HabboxLive is a very high maintenance department so I haven't got the time to sell masses of lottery tickets.

You might hire people, but you certainly don't fire them and its obvious...

[iLogan]

You might hire people, but you certainly don't fire them and its obvious...

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=753193
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=754511
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=753787
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=752709
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=752357
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=752150
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=751874
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=750663

[FlyingJesus]

I manage the department

Yes that's the idea, but the things you've said you do aren't things that seem particularly time consuming for someone who ought to be quite enthusiastic about what they're doing. Let's break it down:


I hire new DJs

1 night's work whenever apps have to occur


I make sure that the DJs are doing their minimums

A legitimate claim, well done, but literally just amounts to timetabling and responding to reports if people don't turn up for their shows


I make sure the Head DJs are confident with what they're doing.

They bloody ought to be considering they're Head DJs. I'm not sure that this would actually entail you doing anything extra.

So the claim that you don't have time to ask your staff to sell lottery tickets as part of their jobs, or (heaven forbid) do it yourself, is ridiculous

[iLogan]

Yes that's the idea, but the things you've said you do aren't things that seem particularly time consuming for someone who ought to be quite enthusiastic about what they're doing. Let's break it down:



1 night's work whenever apps have to occur



A legitimate claim, well done, but literally just amounts to timetabling and responding to reports if people don't turn up for their shows



They bloody ought to be considering they're Head DJs. I'm not sure that this would actually entail you doing anything extra.

So the claim that you don't have time to ask your staff to sell lottery tickets as part of their jobs, or (heaven forbid) do it yourself, is ridiculous

afaik non-management aren't permitted to sell lottery tickets?

I can ensure you that I don't just log in every day and have a nice relaxing browse of the forums - I manage HabboxLive.

[Chris]

Erm not being funny, but if other managers can manage their departments and sell lottery tickets then so can you.

[Martin]

afaik non-management aren't permitted to sell lottery tickets?

I can ensure you that I don't just log in every day and have a nice relaxing browse of the forums - I manage HabboxLive.

You're also a content designer, maybe you could put the time you use to do that into gaining funds for the department? Just an idea xD

I don't think HxL is any different from other departments in terms of the day to day tasks, I think you just need to make time for it somehow because it does sound like a great way of getting involved with the community whilst raising credits at the same time. :)

[iLogan]

You're also a content designer, maybe you could put the time you use to do that into gaining funds for the department? Just an idea xD

I've resigned from content :P

[Richie]

i'll sell tickets hire me, fire remel ;) xx

[Martin]

I've resigned from content :P

Hopefully that should free you up some time then! :) Are you thinking about getting help running the department? It does sound like that would benefit you a lot too and hopefully will give you time to get earning some funds! :)

[iLogan]

Hopefully that should free you up some time then! :) Are you thinking about getting help running the department? It does sound like that would benefit you a lot too and hopefully will give you time to get earning some funds! :)

yeah, but there are two people i think would be suitable as assistant so i'm just trying to make up my mind before I give my suggestions to matt

[Martin]

yeah, but there are two people i think would be suitable as assistant so i'm just trying to make up my mind before I give my suggestions to matt


Good! That should help out a lot for a start! :D Perhaps next month you could make a real push to sell lots of tickets, perhaps getting listeners down to a room where you are and sell lots and make lots of credits for future habboxlive events! xD I think its an easy way for community departments to get funding really and should be used to full potential! xD

[GoldenMerc]

yeah, but there are two people i think would be suitable as assistant so i'm just trying to make up my mind before I give my suggestions to matt

Why not ask matt to put you down to assistant and promote one of them to manager, considering you don't have the time?

[FlyingJesus]

afaik non-management aren't permitted to sell lottery tickets?

Then maybe we need a manager who's willing to do it



I can ensure you that I don't just log in every day and have a nice relaxing browse of the forums - I manage HabboxLive.

And once again, you've not actually said what that entails to a point where it's actually possible to say "you're right, you do far too much to worry about funding like the other managers all do". A manager manages, yes, but if the previous points you raised are all that you expect from the role and still find it too taxing then you clearly do not have the drive to do it

[iLogan]

Why not ask matt to put you down to assistant and promote one of them to manager, considering you don't have the time?

seeing that getting an assistant will half my workload i see no need for that - although it is something i have in mind for the future

[GoldenMerc]

ngl shockwave for manager

[Jazz]

In terms of funding I shall be trying to get some funds in via donations and off my own back. I offered to sell lottery tickets myself but understandably thats for managers to do and not myself. I think that as well as getting funds via one or two DJ's spending £30 odd quid on gbs we should start to advertise donations if we are so tight for funds?

I think jade should have some serious rewards for her work, i shall be giving her a month of my VIP (again) even though thats only a small reward I can't really give much else.

[Samantha]

yeah, but there are two people i think would be suitable as assistant so i'm just trying to make up my mind before I give my suggestions to matt

Surely they need to be head DJ to be promoted to assistant? I can only think of Woodsy who would be fit.

Also, I rarely sell lottery tickets, I have the funding I require and it's not like I need to do events and stuff every month for my department. However, I know I've had to fund every big event I've done even though I did query about funding! I've made rooms for Habbox in general and I don't complain about it, I just like being a part of the fansite and you should make do with whatever you have!

[GoldenMerc]

I believe once again this thread highlights HabboxLive needs someone decent to manage it, not just some DJ, a DJ with a skill that they can lead a team, manage a team and once again construct a team to make the best Habbo Radio station around.
ngl re-hire Grig; demote RemelKid to Head DJ.
When choosing managers make sure they can lead a team.

[MissAlice]

It’s very encouraging to see not just one current DJ post in this thread but several.

I totally agree you need regular shows, as each DJ will have built up a following of listeners who enjoy tuning in to their favourite DJ.

If you start a scheme that allows listeners to vote for their favourite DJ, I worry that younger or even new DJ’s will find it hard to feel accepted and be part of the team. Rather than one single vote, perhaps offer listeners three, that way voting can be spread a little.

I am assuming there is a Habbox Party Room! Who is the room owner? Is it well advertised? Perhaps there is more than 1; maybe some of the Head DJ’s have linked rooms? If not, why not?

Staff need praising, not just when they do a great show, but regular appraisals should be happening, even once a month would be sufficient, this is an opportunity to give them feedback be it good or bad. It also helps to assess where HxL strengths and weaknesses need addressing.

I passed an idea of mine on yesterday evening to DJ Jade and the response I got back was very encouraging, and that very idea has now been mentioned in this thread.






As I said before I'm sorting out perm shows but yeah I like the idea of having some ones that have already been thought of to be available for DJs to choose to do.




Will anything be happening with the idea, that I passed to you? If it’s not going to be actioned I am more than happy to pass it to Maggots or another dedicated DJ, and more than willing to donate 50 credits, to get the show started.

[iLogan]

It’s very encouraging to see not just one current DJ post in this thread but several.

I totally agree you need regular shows, as each DJ will have built up a following of listeners who enjoy tuning in to their favourite DJ.

If you start a scheme that allows listeners to vote for their favourite DJ, I worry that younger or even new DJ’s will find it hard to feel accepted and be part of the team. Rather than one single vote, perhaps offer listeners three, that way voting can be spread a little.

I am assuming there is a Habbox Party Room! Who is the room owner? Is it well advertised? Perhaps there is more than 1; maybe some of the Head DJ’s have linked rooms? If not, why not?

Staff need praising, not just when they do a great show, but regular appraisals should be happening, even once a month would be sufficient, this is an opportunity to give them feedback be it good or bad. It also helps to assess where HxL strengths and weaknesses need addressing.

I passed an idea of mine on yesterday evening to DJ Jade and the response I got back was very encouraging, and that very idea has now been mentioned in this thread.






Will anything be happening with the idea, that I passed to you? If it’s not going to be actioned I am more than happy to pass it to Maggots or another dedicated DJ, and more than willing to donate 50 credits, to get the show started.

I posted your idea for the Seniors and Heads to discuss but not much has sprung from it. I will try to re-kindle the discussion.

[GoldenMerc]

What a idea MissAlice; you missy, have just got the best idea ever.
Why doesn't HabboxLive have a party room, just one, make it a group so DJ's can have partys there, while Events can go on also. so a bit of both worlds, keep the room advertised via Habbox.com and via the Radio and wala, it fix's both. It also keeps a nice populated room for DJ's to gain listeners :)

[MissAlice]

What a idea MissAlice; you missy, have just got the best idea ever.
Why doesn't HabboxLive have a party room, just one, make it a group so DJ's can have partys there, while Events can go on also. so a bit of both worlds, keep the room advertised via Habbox.com and via the Radio and wala, it fix's both. It also keeps a nice populated room for DJ's to gain listeners :)

I just assumed they must have, not every DJ has a wealth of furni to create something special. So I assumed one already exists.

I will be very shocked if there isn't one.

[orientalframe?]

It’s very encouraging to see not just one current DJ post in this thread but several.

I totally agree you need regular shows, as each DJ will have built up a following of listeners who enjoy tuning in to their favourite DJ.

If you start a scheme that allows listeners to vote for their favourite DJ, I worry that younger or even new DJ’s will find it hard to feel accepted and be part of the team. Rather than one single vote, perhaps offer listeners three, that way voting can be spread a little.

I am assuming there is a Habbox Party Room! Who is the room owner? Is it well advertised? Perhaps there is more than 1; maybe some of the Head DJ’s have linked rooms? If not, why not?

Staff need praising, not just when they do a great show, but regular appraisals should be happening, even once a month would be sufficient, this is an opportunity to give them feedback be it good or bad. It also helps to assess where HxL strengths and weaknesses need addressing.

I passed an idea of mine on yesterday evening to DJ Jade and the response I got back was very encouraging, and that very idea has now been mentioned in this thread.






Will anything be happening with the idea, that I passed to you? If it’s not going to be actioned I am more than happy to pass it to Maggots or another dedicated DJ, and more than willing to donate 50 credits, to get the show started.

it is truly AMAZING how your posts always speak the most sense. i completely agree with everything you have said and i can't really think of anything else to say because you have literally took the words out of my mouth. an official party room of some sort seems like an amazing idea, its a great way to boost up the listeners whilst events are still going on.

[Foregetfuhl]

it is truly AMAZING how your posts always speak the most sense. i completely agree with everything you have said and i can't really think of anything else to say because you have literally took the words out of my mouth. an official party room of some sort seems like an amazing idea, its a great way to boost up the listeners whilst events are still going on.

I use to have one but I demolished it as it just wasn't get used. People prefer to go to HxHD.. and to be honest that room really is nice.. lolol. Plus i demolished it to get creds for the event I'm doing end of next month.. I've put all money from my own pocket into the event I'm doing too as it was my own idea and I didn't want to rely on asking Matt/Logan for the help..

[MissAlice]

it is truly AMAZING how your posts always speak the most sense. i completely agree with everything you have said and i can't really think of anything else to say because you have literally took the words out of my mouth. an official party room of some sort seems like an amazing idea, its a great way to boost up the listeners whilst events are still going on.

I can't believe one doesn't exist, and I've no idea how many head DJ's there are, but providing the owners didn't mind, they could be linked, not loads though, just 2 or 3. You don't want Habbos having to search endlessly for the room.

[GoldenMerc]

I use to have one but I demolished it as it just wasn't get used. People prefer to go to HxHD.. and to be honest that room really is nice.. lolol. Plus i demolished it to get creds for the event I'm doing end of next month.. I've put all money from my own pocket into the event I'm doing too as it was my own idea and I didn't want to rely on asking Matt/Logan for the help..

ngl you seem a perfect candidate for manager im going to +rep you and give you 100% support :)

[iLogan]

I just assumed they must have, not every DJ has a wealth of furni to create something special. So I assumed one already exists.

I will be very shocked if there isn't one.

There isn't an official one at the moment no, but I was looking into creating one a little while back with the help from the designer Rakker.

[santa-my-nana]

I use to have one but I demolished it as it just wasn't get used. People prefer to go to HxHD.. and to be honest that room really is nice.. lolol. Plus i demolished it to get creds for the event I'm doing end of next month.. I've put all money from my own pocket into the event I'm doing too as it was my own idea and I didn't want to rely on asking Matt/Logan for the help..

I used to have one but when events tabs are back i think it will be really usefull to have one.

People prefer to go to HxHD.. and to be honest that room really is nice..
i'd beg to differ there a little, i think several room are needed really or 2 a party room for partying, help desk for help. Makes sense :P


you are such a great person jade and ive never ever met anyone like you that will put that much money into what your doing now, you are such an amazing person and you deserve wonderfull and great things. I hope management realise how good you are for them.

[Jazz]

an official party room is a great idea to boost not just all you have said above but general moral within the department, it will be a way of bringing the department together, kinda. I will have a look into creating a party room with my good friend Dolphins; when i get my credits through :-)

[Foregetfuhl]

an official party room is a great idea to boost not just all you have said above but general moral within the department, it will be a way of bringing the department together, kinda. I will have a look into creating a party room with my good friend Dolphins; when i get my credits through :-)

I don't mind helping if needed Jazz :) would be quite fun to be honest! Should get loads of DJs involved with it, group room or something? :)

[Jazz]

I don't mind helping if needed Jazz :) would be quite fun to be honest! Should get loads of DJs involved with it, group room or something? :)

yeah i think it will be really good to get as many djs to help as possible, it could be a possible staff bonding activity maybe? :)

[Foregetfuhl]

yeah i think it will be really good to get as many djs to help as possible, it could be a possible staff bonding activity maybe? :)

Deffo, that is something we really do need because to be quite honest, at lot of the DJs just don't make the effort to talk to one another etc. and I would love to get to know the other DJs that I don't talk to much. Would be nice to really bring the HxL community together :)

[Jazz]

Deffo, that is something we really do need because to be quite honest, at lot of the DJs just don't make the effort to talk to one another etc. and I would love to get to know the other DJs that I don't talk to much. Would be nice to really bring the HxL community together :)

on that front, the habboxlive staff community needs to be a bit more close, as ive seen from many other departments the success comes from the teamwork. Im currently organising a habboxlive bonding session and I think it will really boost our department if we were to have them on a regular basis

[MissAlice]

I insist MattG also makes a room for partying :)

[Foregetfuhl]

on that front, the habboxlive staff community needs to be a bit more close, as ive seen from many other departments the success comes from the teamwork. Im currently organising a habboxlive bonding session and I think it will really boost our department if we were to have them on a regular basis

That is something I put in the suggestions and it is something that I think should be done.. even if once a month? Because we do have a lot more new DJs and we need to get them more involved and introduced to everyone.. I hardly know some of the DJs that are away and that, only really been introduced or speak to about half of them and even I had to push for the conversation there... I want more friendsss ;) haha.

[xxMATTGxx]

Since staff are not always stable and come and go at any tine, I don't mind actually making one. Can get people from the department help creating it etc.

That way we don't have to worry about owners of the room when people decide to leave or get fired - Bit like the HxHD.

[Jazz]

That is something I put in the suggestions and it is something that I think should be done.. even if once a month? Because we do have a lot more new DJs and we need to get them more involved and introduced to everyone.. I hardly know some of the DJs that are away and that, only really been introduced or speak to about half of them and even I had to push for the conversation there... I want more friendsss ;) haha.

once a month would be stable, yes. I remember when i was hxl staff in 2010 and we used to have staff bonding every month and it really brought us closer together :)

[MKR&*42]

Wait, there isn't an official party room? Big shock really xD.

OK I must be very slow then.

[Foregetfuhl]

ngl you seem a perfect candidate for manager im going to +rep you and give you 100% support :)

ngl your crazy haha ;)

[Jazz]

ngl your crazy haha ;)

tbh youve been at hxl nearly on a month and you have done so much for the department already so you deserve all the good comments you get. If I was manager I would of already promoted you to senior for the work you have done. Jade, you are incredible.

[MissAlice]

Since staff are not always stable and come and go at any tine, I don't mind actually making one. Can get people from the department help creating it etc.

That way we don't have to worry about owners of the room when people decide to leave or get fired - Bit like the HxHD.

This is a huge step in the right direction.

Once it's made, you can plan for future events, like a big Christmas party etc.

[Foregetfuhl]

tbh youve been at hxl nearly on a month and you have done so much for the department already so you deserve all the good comments you get. If I was manager I would of already promoted you to senior for the work you have done. Jade, you are incredible.

You Miss Jazz, are the loveliest of people. <3

[BOOMitsGINA]

Got to admit Jade you have done an amazing job here at habbox. You show so much dedication and support to the site! I really hope you get promoted even if you have been here at habbox for a month. Its not about the quantity its about the quality ;) If that makes sense?

Staff bonding will do a massive favour because I do talk to a lot of the DJs on Skype and MSN. It would help to have these staff bonding sessions as it will not only help me but all of us talk to each other more and be a team :D

[beth]

jeez, i wouldn't give my worst enemy the pressure of managing habboxlive at the moment don't scare the poor girl.

just been reading this thread and what would seem clear to me is that logan is very efficient in the actual RUNNING of habboxlive and the technicalities and the practicalities but there is no creative spark or space for him to advertise or promote the department because he's spending his time keeping the machine ticking over.

i think there could be a lack of organic ideas or a lack of action, i'm not sure which but it's all very stagnant.

i would like to think during my time at habbox i had a few creative ideas Inseriousity; and xxMATTGxx;) and i would be willing to help out again with those if any of the hxl/hx management approached before i return to uni.

i don't think there's a longterm future anymore for habboxlive, but i'd certainly be willing to help if there was a team willing to work for habboxlive to be a success.

[Chippiewill]

jeez, i wouldn't give my worst enemy the pressure of managing habboxlive at the moment.
This. I don't think there's a higher maintenance department. Logan's just come back off holiday and clearly the situation deteriorated whilst he was away, but he's hardly had the chance to get back on top of things yet.

[GoldenMerc]

This. I don't think there's a higher maintenance department. Logan's just come back off holiday and clearly the situation deteriorated whilst he was away, but he's hardly had the chance to get back on top of things yet.
He's had time, months

[Foregetfuhl]

I mean for me personally Logan does do an amazing amount of work.. And there is soooo much to manage and he is trying his hardest, even when his busy he will try to help me when I have questions etc. I love HabboxLive and am enjoying everything I am doing for them and I will continue to. And I'm 100% sure that Logan will be doing this too. Yeah there are issues but with hard work from the DJs and maybe a few little pushes it is something that can get sorted?

[Inseriousity.]

jeez, i wouldn't give my worst enemy the pressure of managing habboxlive at the moment don't scare the poor girl.

just been reading this thread and what would seem clear to me is that logan is very efficient in the actual RUNNING of habboxlive and the technicalities and the practicalities but there is no creative spark or space for him to advertise or promote the department because he's spending his time keeping the machine ticking over.

i think there could be a lack of organic ideas or a lack of action, i'm not sure which but it's all very stagnant.

i would like to think during my time at habbox i had a few creative ideas @Inseriousity (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=15792); and @xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020);) and i would be willing to help out again with those if any of the hxl/hx management approached before i return to uni.

i don't think there's a longterm future anymore for habboxlive, but i'd certainly be willing to help if there was a team willing to work for habboxlive to be a success.

A few lol understatement. You're right, it does need that creative spark and I'd be happy to work with you again :)

[Grig]

Managing HxL isn't too bad if you know how to manage your time. Plus Head DJs do not need masses of encouragement or what not, that's ridiculous. Their not in that position without reason. Although come to think of it, I doubt they are still fulfilling their duties. I love the, great girls. BUT, they need to be doing events and supporting the manager more. You cannot promote anyone to assistant if these fundamentals aren't being fulfilled. NGL, not many are putting effort into having not incentive for unique events and that's what HxL needs. Remember, an idea is just an idea unless it's put into action.

If you cannot manage to sell lottery tickets, yet have time to create pointless, ineffective rules...then one may ask what are you doing in the job anyway. It's not hard to sell tickets and I fully disagree with you Logan, you should be expected to sell some tickets and contribute to Habbox. The philosophy of "I'm radio manager, so all I do is manage the radio" is wrong. Yet by "manage the radio" you need funds and money does not grow on trees, you need to work for it. If you don't know that, then I would wish you luck in the real world.

If thing's are really bad, I can help set up a nice show/ event for you that's not been done before.

[Samantha]

Managing HxL isn't too bad if you know how to manage your time. Plus Head DJs do not need masses of encouragement or what not, that's ridiculous. Their not in that position without reason. Although come to think of it, I doubt they are still fulfilling their duties. I love the, great girls. BUT, they need to be doing events and supporting the manager more. You cannot promote anyone to assistant if these fundamentals aren't being fulfilled. NGL, not many are putting effort into having not incentive for unique events and that's what HxL needs. Remember, an idea is just an idea unless it's put into action.

If you cannot manage to sell lottery tickets, yet have time to create pointless, ineffective rules...then one may ask what are you doing in the job anyway. It's not hard to sell tickets and I fully disagree with you Logan, you should be expected to sell some tickets and contribute to Habbox. The philosophy of "I'm radio manager, so all I do is manage the radio" is wrong. Yet by "manage the radio" you need funds and money does not grow on trees, you need to work for it. If you don't know that, then I would wish you luck in the real world.

If thing's are really bad, I can help set up a nice show/ event for you that's not been done before.

Their not in that position without reason, no Grig!!

Anyway, I think some ideas occur but they aren't really unique, habboxstarz and a guess the song for hxss, I know you've been away Logan but I could have done better, no offence. It does seem that not all the heads fulfil their duties I agree grig and well if they aren't doing it at this stage in the department then really they shouldn't be offered assistant.

[Jazz]

Although come to think of it, I doubt they are still fulfilling their duties. I love the, great girls. BUT, they need to be doing events and supporting the manager more. You cannot promote anyone to assistant if these fundamentals aren't being fulfilled.

I have to say that when you left logan cracked down on the head dj role, we now help manage the department a bit more behind the scenes, stuff like deciding trial results we help with now. The events side I know this really needs action taken with it, im currently juggling all these different jobs that arent in my job description and this isnt an excuse i know im in the wrong but i havent had the time or funding (i dont like asking management for funds, when i host an event i want it to be off my own back) to host big events. I've done a couple of small events over hxss, and hosted the guess the song over this last 2 weeks. I'm also focusing on my group a bit more then events over this last month so i apologise.

The vault should be returning soon on the events front, ive also got a few unique ideas in my bonnet which me and my colleagues will be hopefully hosting at some point. We've also got a few big events planned for September which will surely boost our listeners. I also was contacted about MissAlice; (I think it was missalices lalala) event idea and I offered to host it with BOOMitsGINA;

[iLogan]

Managing HxL isn't too bad if you know how to manage your time. Plus Head DJs do not need masses of encouragement or what not, that's ridiculous. Their not in that position without reason. Although come to think of it, I doubt they are still fulfilling their duties. I love the, great girls. BUT, they need to be doing events and supporting the manager more. You cannot promote anyone to assistant if these fundamentals aren't being fulfilled. NGL, not many are putting effort into having not incentive for unique events and that's what HxL needs. Remember, an idea is just an idea unless it's put into action.

If you cannot manage to sell lottery tickets, yet have time to create pointless, ineffective rules...then one may ask what are you doing in the job anyway. It's not hard to sell tickets and I fully disagree with you Logan, you should be expected to sell some tickets and contribute to Habbox. The philosophy of "I'm radio manager, so all I do is manage the radio" is wrong. Yet by "manage the radio" you need funds and money does not grow on trees, you need to work for it. If you don't know that, then I would wish you luck in the real world.

If thing's are really bad, I can help set up a nice show/ event for you that's not been done before.

What pointless rules are you talking about?

[Grig]

I have to say that when you left logan cracked down on the head dj role, we now help manage the department a bit more behind the scenes, stuff like deciding trial results we help with now. The events side I know this really needs action taken with it, im currently juggling all these different jobs that arent in my job description and this isnt an excuse i know im in the wrong but i havent had the time or funding (i dont like asking management for funds, when i host an event i want it to be off my own back) to host big events. I've done a couple of small events over hxss, and hosted the guess the song over this last 2 weeks. I'm also focusing on my group a bit more then events over this last month so i apologise.

The vault should be returning soon on the events front, ive also got a few unique ideas in my bonnet which me and my colleagues will be hopefully hosting at some point. We've also got a few big events planned for September which will surely boost our listeners. I also was contacted about MissAlice; (I think it was missalices lalala) event idea and I offered to host it with BOOMitsGINA;

That's great then. Yeh Jess always let the Heads have a say on trialists and that's how it should be. More integration, make the Heads feel as if they are part of something, rather than writing countless of tedious PMs.

Yeh Jazz, I know you had posted some lovely ideas and would love to see them! If anyone, I'd pick you as Asst. as you have the most creative spark and that's what's needed. I hope this is realized over someone who does millions of slots. Millions of slots do not solve long-term problems, but great ideas and initiatives do! :)

Logan, such as increasing slots, that one about the senior account. Atm, people see some of them and feel a bit intimidated. It needs to be simple and effective. The rules do not need to be long-winded and some past Rms always wanted to cut some rules and make it more simple. Even the current welcome PMs are mammoth and they used to be simple at to the point!

[iLogan]

That's great then. Yeh Jess always let the Heads have a say on trialists and that's how it should be. More integration, make the Heads feel as if they are part of something, rather than writing countless of tedious PMs.

Yeh Jazz, I know you had posted some lovely ideas and would love to see them! If anyone, I'd pick you as Asst. as you have the most creative spark and that's what's needed. I hope this is realized over someone who does millions of slots. Millions of slots do not solve long-term problems, but great ideas and initiatives do! :)

Logan, such as increasing slots, that one about the senior account. Atm, people see some of them and feel a bit intimidated. It needs to be simple and effective. The rules do not need to be long-winded and some past Rms always wanted to cut some rules and make it more simple. Even the current welcome PMs are mammoth and they used to be simple at to the point!

I agree with the Welcome PM thing, I think Jess made it because it was the same Welcome PM I received when I joined the department.

The Seniors were slacking before, some were doing loads and some were doing little, but they had nothing to go against in terms of how much work they should be doing which is why I put in Senior targets. Something myself and Jess discussed.

[Grig]

I agree with the Welcome PM thing, I think Jess made it because it was the same Welcome PM I received when I joined the department.

The Seniors were slacking before, some were doing loads and some were doing little, but they had nothing to go against in terms of how much work they should be doing which is why I put in Senior targets. Something myself and Jess discussed.

Yeh targets are fine, as long as they are met- i.e. doing their two monthly events!!! Think a few got away with doing little in the past and we only have ourselves to blame!

[iLogan]

Yeh targets are fine, as long as they are met- i.e. doing their two monthly events!!! Think a few got away with doing little in the past and we only have ourselves to blame!

Well it clearly states that if a Senior DJ fails to meet any aspect of their targets two weeks in a row they'll be demoted.

Any Senior DJ who fails to meet their event target will be PM'd.

[Grig]

Well it clearly states that if a Senior DJ fails to meet any aspect of their targets two weeks in a row they'll be demoted.

Any Senior DJ who fails to meet their event target will be PM'd.

So hopefully it's happening now. Also, on the issue of senior DJs. Why are they exempted from rules and given "the benefit of the doubt". I have discussed this with you in the past and disagreed.

When I was Head in news under Samanfa;, I would get a warning for slacking or missing minimum reports etc. That's the fair way. Treat everyone equally. Head and Seniors in particular should be given warnings. It's also unfair on other DJs if they are given this benefit, whilst normal DJs are warned.

[iLogan]

So hopefully it's happening now. Also, on the issue of senior DJs. Why are they exempted from rules and given "the benefit of the doubt". I have discussed this with you in the past and disagreed.

When I was Head in news under Samanfa;, I would get a warning for slacking or missing minimum reports etc. That's the fair way. Treat everyone equally. Head and Seniors in particular should be given warnings. It's also unfair on other DJs if they are given this benefit, whilst normal DJs are warned.

Senior DJs and Head DJs are not exempt from the rules. In both the Head and Senior Handbook it's made clear that they are expected to be following all Habbox(Live) rules at all times and if they're not then action will be taken.

PMs are sent to Senior and Head DJs should they be breaking any HabboxLive rule whether that be in the normal handbook or the Senior/Head handbooks.

[Grig]

Which is why when one or two missed slots, you told me, "Oh just give them the benefit of the doubt"... I'm not imagining this lol.

[GoldenMerc]

Which is why when one or two missed slots, you told me, "Oh just give them the benefit of the doubt"... I'm not imagining this lol.

Grig there isn't any point trying, he only listens to what he wants to hear...

[Foregetfuhl]

I don't think they are always given the benefit of the doubt, from what the seniors have said to me it is a lot of work.. maybe when they do miss slots there is a bit of just shrug it off but then again the current seniors are very hard working and don't tend to miss their slots unless they have issues which can't really be helped such as dodgy internet etc.

[BOOMitsGINA]

The senior work isn't just fun and games.. it is hard work. Seniors have targets to be met by the end of each week, if a senior failed to do so you get a warning and if continued to not be met you get demoted to regular DJ.
But the seniors are very hard working, I tried my best when I was a senior and it was hard work but overall I enjoyed it loads ;D which could be weird? ;) I think seniors are treated the same as any other promotion, get the work done and your fine and if you don't you have to face the consequences. That is what I always thought? However I just paid attention to what I needed to get on with it and tried my best. So I don't think we get the benefit of the doubt??

[Grig]

The senior work isn't just fun and games.. it is hard work. Seniors have targets to be met by the end of each week, if a senior failed to do so you get a warning and if continued to not be met you get demoted to regular DJ.
But the seniors are very hard working, I tried my best when I was a senior and it was hard work but overall I enjoyed it loads ;D which could be weird? ;) I think seniors are treated the same as any other promotion, get the work done and your fine and if you don't you have to face the consequences. That is what I always thought? However I just paid attention to what I needed to get on with it and tried my best. So I don't think we get the benefit of the doubt??

They did when I was there, and I would know seeing as I was management... :S

Nah there were a few cases where some got away, but they quit. Other cases were when DJs missed slots. The previous two people said they "think", but that's a silly reply. I know, as I wanted to warn people for missing slots in a senior position.

And you could defend yourselves and I know you do the admin, reporting show issues etc. a lot and that's fantastic. But when, (apart from when I asked for HxStarz) did you actually do a big event? Not picking on you, and there are a few more in such senior positions that miss it. One or two should have been removed. You're lucky you weren't here under Oli or you would have received threats. Besides, I've seen a lot of leniency. The events are crucial, so are working on listener campaigns. Reporting is only a segment of the role.

[xxMATTGxx]

Just heard that Logan has just won 200 credits from the lottery - Can't complain about funding now ;)

[Grig]

Just heard that Logan has just won 200 credits from the lottery - Can't complain about funding now ;)

Was it rigged?!

But nah seriously, there are a few DJs who do loads for Hxl and they are stars. I'm sure they know who they are. But HxL is not going to get anymore listeners when the timetable is in a whirlwind. I was talking to some HxL DJs as I had a lot of free time today and some told me that it was possible to get loads of listeners if there are well planned shows at various times. However, some int. times, DJs go on and stream. That could seem and great. But it's not. If HxL wanted non-stop music, they would get an auto DJ. Also, it makes the DJ look good for times management can't monitor and that's not fair, nor is it much effort.

I believe HxL can get back on its feet. But there is a time when people have to stop saying that, including members of general management and look into the real problems. If HxL is still like this in 4 months and obviously we'd get a thread, I'd guarantee it, then something more has to be done with either radio management or other issues that are plaguing the radio. I believe, but belief won't last if we keep having such threads sounding like a broken record every month with the same old problems.

[iLogan]

Was it rigged?!

But nah seriously, there are a few DJs who do loads for Hxl and they are stars. I'm sure they know who they are. But HxL is not going to get anymore listeners when the timetable is in a whirlwind. I was talking to some HxL DJs as I had a lot of free time today and some told me that it was possible to get loads of listeners if there is a well planned shows at various times. However, some int. times, DJs go on and stream. That could be seem and great. But it's not. If HxL wanted non-stop music, they would get an auto DJ. Also, it makes the DJ look good for times management can't monitor and that's not fair, not is it much effort.

I believe HxL can get back on its feet. But there is a time when people have to stop saying that, including members of general management and look into the real problems. If HxL is still like this in 4 months and obviously we'd get a thread, I'd guarantee it, then something more has to be done with either radio management or other issues that are plaguing the radio. I believe, but belief won't last if we keep having such threads sounding like a broken record every month with the same old problems.

You were the international manager of HabboxLive and you know that there is a great amount of concern regarding the international slots. There is barely an international side of Habbox let alone the radio.

[Grig]

You were the international manager of HabboxLive and you know that there is a great amount of concern regarding the international slots. There is barely an international side of Habbox let alone the radio.

You look at the international DJ amounts now, it wasn't that bad before. Also, this doesn't relate to the previous post at all. I was talking about streaming. Again, it is sometimes a matter of quality over quantity.

[Kyle]

You were the international manager of HabboxLive and you know that there is a great amount of concern regarding the international slots. There is barely an international side of Habbox let alone the radio.
So now you're trying to shift the blame. :rolleyes:

So what's the deal with the habboxstarz voting peeps??? Where is the poll? Was it really only open for an hour... lol...

remelkid, you continue to disappoint.

[MKR&*42]

More like 45 mins I believe? So annoying, i only saw it 10 mins before it closed because someone mentioned me about it^

[Red]

half and hour? I think. I really don't know why all this time was wasted creating 'tension'. It was a public vote. We know who won as soon as the voting closed. Half an hour isn't long enough and voting could have been opened longer. Loads of people didn't even know the final was tonight or voting was going to be that short. Look at the votes for the first vote and that doesn't reflect the winners.

[Grig]

REALLY? This is getting infuriating now. Hxstarz was never based on a half an hour poll...

[Richie]

I was under the impression the poll was going to close tomorrow as that's what it said. Nevertheless wd EricYong!; & @hothot2k7 (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=105882);


@Elegance (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=78221); and @LuciieOx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61437); were so good can you give them my vip @RemelKiid (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=60296);

[Volunteer]

I did not know HxStarz was tonight until around 6:15pm tonight. That was an extreme short notice, considering it was the final votes. If people weren't on around then, I doubt they would not have known it was tonight. Where was the announcement that it was tonight? How come votes were closed so early?

[Zelda]

^ that underlying and embolding is completely unnecessary, but Ye the point is excelent, its just a shambles quite frankly.

[beth]

IT'SOKAY. i'm here to save the day.

[Kyle]

can i be habboxlive cleaner please

[Niall!]

You need to make it so DJs don't have to go on habbo or even refer to it during their shows.

Maybe I'm wrong and this isn't enforced but I don't give a **** about the party rooms or whatnot, I just want music.

[nvrspk4]

You need to make it so DJs don't have to go on habbo or even refer to it during their shows.

Maybe I'm wrong and this isn't enforced but I don't give a **** about the party rooms or whatnot, I just want music.

The only way HabboxLive will pick up popularity and start to grow in listener count (sustainably, it can grow with just forum users for a bit) is to strengthen its presence on Habbo. But really strengthen it, not have people who are just there because they have to be.

[Niall!]

The only way HabboxLive will pick up popularity and start to grow in listener count (sustainably, it can grow with just forum users for a bit) is to strengthen its presence on Habbo. But really strengthen it, not have people who are just there because they have to be.

I agree with that point. But couldn't there be a few hours (maybe just 2 a day) where the habbo part is all but eliminated and they just act like normal radio djs?

[Richie]

I agree with that point. But couldn't there be a few hours (maybe just 2 a day) where the habbo part is all but eliminated and they just act like normal radio djs?

I like that idea. I have suggested a more 'mature' approach to some shows, which would be better for older users, depending if they like the genre or not :P

[Niall!]

I like that idea. I have suggested a more 'mature' approach to some shows, which would be better for older users, depending if they like the genre or not :P

You don't necessarily have to base it around genre; many people no matter their age groups like different kind of music. Just a general show where mature jokes are made and topics discussed. Obviously swearing in songs and on the mic is out of the question (unfortunately).

[:odey:]

What's the chances of doing pre recorded shows by the way?
I realise it's probably a completely crap idea, because most dj's can't even be bothered to dj normally, never mind pre record stuff,
How easy would it be?

Because the more active dj's, it's a bit of a draw on them, as they'd have to be the ones putting in MORE work, but is there no way of pre recording stuff, so when there is no one around, someone could stream the pre recorded show, rather than just music?

It's such a turn off to me just listening to streaming music when I have itunes sitting right there and I can choose my own stuff..

[Niall!]

What's the chances of doing pre recorded shows by the way?
I realise it's probably a completely crap idea, because most dj's can't even be bothered to dj normally, never mind pre record stuff,
How easy would it be?

Because the more active dj's, it's a bit of a draw on them, as they'd have to be the ones putting in MORE work, but is there no way of pre recording stuff, so when there is no one around, someone could stream the pre recorded show, rather than just music?

It's such a turn off to me just listening to streaming music when I have itunes sitting right there and I can choose my own stuff..

Technically it's not that difficult to record a show on SAM and save it to the MP3 format required. That's actually a brilliant idea. Have the DJs record a show at the start of the week and send it to someone who's more actively online; instead of streaming music if the radio dies the DJ who takes over can simply stick on a show done by one of the other djs.

[:odey:]

Technically it's not that difficult to record a show on SAM and save it to the MP3 format required. That's actually a brilliant idea. Have the DJs record a show at the start of the week and send it to someone who's more actively online; instead of streaming music if the radio dies the DJ who takes over can simply stick on a show done by one of the other djs.

Exactly, but the only problem is,
Is they could only realistically be used once, and getting people to ACTUALLY do it, would be as hard as getting them to actually DJ,
I'm sure Richie wouldn't mind making some, that's his kind of forte,
But it would be so much better than just listening to music.

[Niall!]

Exactly, but the only problem is,
Is they could only realistically be used once, and getting people to ACTUALLY do it, would be as hard as getting them to actually DJ,
I'm sure Richie wouldn't mind making some, that's his kind of forte,
But it would be so much better than just listening to music.

That's why I said at the start of the week get each DJ to do a new show. Put it in their job description and if they refuse, fire them. That's how things should be run; no pussyfooting about, fire the ones that aren't djing/recording shows as asked.

[:odey:]

That's why I said at the start of the week get each DJ to do a new show. Put it in their job description and if they refuse, fire them. That's how things should be run; no pussyfooting about, fire the ones that aren't djing/recording shows as asked.

That is a fab idea actually,
Increase their minimum to however many normal shows a week it is now + 1 or 2 recordings,
I think that could work?
How many dj's is there currently?
Must be enough to cover quite a lot of dead air time...

[Niall!]

That is a fab idea actually,
Increase their minimum to however many normal shows a week it is now + 1 or 2 recordings,
I think that could work?
How many dj's is there currently?
Must be enough to cover quite a lot of dead air time...

You wouldn't even need to increase their minimum, keep it the same unless the department is understaffed. The recordings would just be to fill in the blanks.

Another separate point which I'm sure has been brought up in the thread already but I can't be arsed reading it is the issue of quality. As far as I can tell the radio broadcasts at 128 kb/s which is terrible. Is there any chance of an upgrade?

[Robbie]

That is a fab idea actually,
Increase their minimum to however many normal shows a week it is now + 1 or 2 recordings,
I think that could work?
How many dj's is there currently?
Must be enough to cover quite a lot of dead air time...

if myself and @Calvin (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=46539);'s test show goes well, our new show could be prerecorded. (also its an actual show playing a certain genre with a certain theme ;)) we're in the process of figuring out whether prerecorded or live would be better for what we wanna do

[:odey:]

if myself and @Calvin (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=46539);'s test show goes well, our new show could be prerecorded. (also its an actual show playing a certain genre with a certain theme ;)) we're in the process of figuring out whether prerecorded or live would be better for what we wanna do

I don't know if you'd want big weekly shows to be recorded though, it's sometimes nice to have some listener interaction during them!

[Robbie]

I don't know if you'd want big weekly shows to be recorded though, it's sometimes nice to have some listener interaction during them!

well, IF we have to prerecord, only the actual music parts of it will be prerecorded, we'd still be taking shoutouts and stuff ;)

[:odey:]

You wouldn't need to play pre recorded material if you were actually on air though? haha.

[hamheyelliot]

You wouldn't even need to increase their minimum, keep it the same unless the department is understaffed. The recordings would just be to fill in the blanks.

Another separate point which I'm sure has been brought up in the thread already but I can't be arsed reading it is the issue of quality. As far as I can tell the radio broadcasts at 128 kb/s which is terrible. Is there any chance of an upgrade?


Was wondering about this, 128 kb/s seems to be the peak for SHOUTcast, there's no inbetween like a nice 192 kb/s for example. There are a few 320 kb/s providers out there, but it gets hard to stream and listen at that sort of speed. I'm sure a few recorded 'generic' shows could prove really beneficial, as long as they aren't major shows that need interaction with listeners.