Members who have read this thread

[David]

can we have this please for OP's, id like to know who's read threads i've posted

http://icap.me/i/NsttBu5rdp.png

[Recursion]

Enabled, the styling is a bit buggered so we'll have to fix it sooooooooooooooon.

[xxMATTGxx]

Discuss if you want it enabled or disabled - It's on at the moment so you can all see what it looks like.

[Chris]

A nice little feature. Looks good to me!

Edit: Oh if theres loads of names then I guess it could be annoying :(

[Inseriousity.]

Don't really like it but such a small thing that I also wouldn't be fussed either way.

[iLogan]

Would be useful in staff forums. Where does it appear, I can't see it anywhere :(

[Chris]

Would be useful in staff forums. Where does it appear, I can't see it anywhere :(

Scroll to the bottom of the thread :P

[Jordan]

I don't really like it to be honest. Is it possible to choose if it's enabled or disabled on our accounts?

[David]

Would be useful in staff forums. Where does it appear, I can't see it anywhere :(

usually under thread information at the bottom, i cant see it either :(

[Sammeth.]

I can't see it. I have a feeling with more popular threads it could get tediously long. Especially game threads and "What are you" threads.

[Recursion]

We'll make it so after a certain number it minimizes or something, assuming the majority want it.

[iLogan]

I think only mods/admins can see it

[MKR&*42]

Yeah I can't see it under any thread either... :P

By the screenshot, seems like a nice feature. I'd be in favour of it :)

[FlyingJesus]

Does it include invis people

[dirrty]

i can't see it, but nevertheless; so now the OP can see how many people have viewed, but not post in their thread? :P

[Recursion]

Awkward, it's a usergroup thing, Mett Ghana's onto it.

[David]

i can't see it, but nevertheless; so now the OP can see how many people have viewed, but not post in their thread? :P

pretty much

[Jarkie]

yes yes yess! omg!!

This will be good :)

[xxMATTGxx]

Thank you vbulletin for making it so we have to edit every usergroup so people can see it. It will start appearing for users starting from now.

[MKR&*42]

Yes it's appeared for me, love it :)
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Oh but if it ever gets implemented, please make sure you remove the ridiculous amounts of commas that are there lmao :(

[David]

woo
http://icap.me/i/waWBKvVy8Z.png

and apparently not FlyingJesus;

[Jordan]

Does it include invis people

I think it will count invisible people viewing the thread but you won't be able to see exactly which invisible person unless you can see invisible people by your perms.

[Sammeth.]

The fact that it puts two commas between each name makes me want to punch people. And it looks like it doesn't include people taking advantage of the invisible feature so thats all good.

Don't see the harm in this at all. Even if it does get mahoosive it's out the way. You only have to scroll down that far if you genuinely want to look at it so it won't be a nuisance.

[-Nick]

I like it :)

[xxMATTGxx]

Two commas will be gone - Just an error within the forum :P

[Jarkie]

I have yet to see this new epic feature

[Chippiewill]

Tom and Kieran should probably brace for some skin bug reports :P

Nice feature in my opinion.

[FlyingJesus]

Can we have some more commas

[Jarkie]

I got it.. but it says no one has viewed this thread... is this a bug or is it me..?

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t83/jarkie/c3c6cc68.png
xxMATTGxx;

[Jordan]

I got it.. but it says no one has viewed this thread... is this a bug or is it me..?

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t83/jarkie/c3c6cc68.png
@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020);

It only starts counting people who have viewed the thread from when you get the feature.

[Jarkie]

It only starts counting people who have viewed the thread from when you get the feature.

Oh? Cos it still says 0 for me..

EDIT --

Just logged out cleared cookies, working fine now.

[David]

i'll take an update award thanks

[Kyle]

Can it be enabled for the OP only plz??

[Chris]

Assuming everyone wants it to stay, it will be included in next weeks Sunday update thread. :P

[Kyle]

goes onto invisible

[:odey:]

I do actually quite like it,
It's a nice little add on :)

[lawrawrrr]

oh god sorry to be a party pooper but i hate this update SO SO SO MUCH

I CAN NO LONGER STALK RANDOM THREADS. And it'd get so annoying with longer threads with 100+ replies, let alone KKK or something!!!!!

[FlyingJesus]

oh god sorry to be a party pooper but i hate this update SO SO SO MUCH

I CAN NO LONGER STALK RANDOM THREADS. And it'd get so annoying with longer threads with 100+ replies, let alone KKK or something!!!!!

You're VIP, you can go invisible ;)

[lawrawrrr]

You're VIP, you can go invisible ;)

managers aren't allowed :'(

[MKR&*42]

oh god sorry to be a party pooper but i hate this update SO SO SO MUCH

I CAN NO LONGER STALK RANDOM THREADS. And it'd get so annoying with longer threads with 100+ replies, let alone KKK or something!!!!!

Why would you want to randomly stalk threads? :P

Oh act. it'd be an issue for me and PAPOY. but that's only counted once.

NOT THAT I STALK PEOPLE IN PAPOY :'(

[lawrawrrr]

Why would you want to randomly stalk threads? :P

Oh act. it'd be an issue for me and PAPOY. but that's only counted once.

NOT THAT I STALK PEOPLE IN PAPOY :'(

yeah but it shows all people who have viewed it from the end of time :/

[GoldenMerc]

Isnt showing for me, non habbo black skin x

[FlyingJesus]

managers aren't allowed :'(

Oh rubbish, just gonna have to stay away from the kiddie porn threads then I guess :P

also omf are people gonna start doing those mass tag things of everyone who's read their thread so they can claim to be popular and stuff

[iLogan]

managers aren't allowed :'(

we are allowed!! they haven't agreed to it yet :D

[lawrawrrr]

we are allowed!! they haven't agreed to it yet :D

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=752438&p=7666441#post7666441 :l

[iLogan]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=752438&p=7666441#post7666441 :l

omfg :( fgs i didn't see that

*goes out of invisible mode*

[MKR&*42]

omfg :( fgs i didn't see that

*goes out of invisible mode*

Haven't you been on that for a week LOL.


yeah but it shows all people who have viewed it from the end of time :/

There's very few threads that would be embarassing to look at it :P The only one I could think of would be the Joint Showering 1 CrazyLemurs; or if someone titled a thread "men only" in health,life relationships xD.

[Kyle]

Isnt showing for me, non habbo black skin x
http://i47.tinypic.com/21152bl.png

shows for me. doesn't seem skin-related. Probably to do with the habbox god usergroup.

[lawrawrrr]

Haven't you been on that for a week LOL.

There's very few threads that would be embarassing to look at it :P The only one I could think of would be the Joint Showering 1 @CrazyLemurs (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=82631); or if someone titled a thread "men only" in health,life relationships xD.

its ok if we're away, guess thats alright :'( might have to resign now LOL ;)

yeah but i dont want people to know if ive read the thread

what happens if you make yet another question thread and i look but decide i cant be bothered to google/type out my reply? you'll be all like OMFG YOU READ MY THREAD AND DIDN'T REPLY YOU *****

[Red]

Ewww no please remove it ;/. Will it show if you are on invisible?

[GoldenMerc]

Ewww no please remove it ;/. Will it show if you are on invisible?

n o
http://icap.me/i/4Qzqq16gYo.png

[iLogan]

Haven't you been on that for a week LOL.



There's very few threads that would be embarassing to look at it :P The only one I could think of would be the Joint Showering 1 CrazyLemurs; or if someone titled a thread "men only" in health,life relationships xD.

yeah LMAO

[Red]

Will have to stay on invisible then!!! So ugly and I agree with Laura. Please remove it.

[MKR&*42]

Omg if you're all so concerned don't view the threads ;ll!!! IT'S A PUBLIC FORUM WHAT DO YOU EXPECT.
@laura (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61966); I wouldn't get stroppy if you didn't answer my question :P Thread replies are optional ;)

[Sloths]

Totally removes all stalkerish abilities :P But I don't like it...

[Lee]

A great move in my opinion, it's not as bad and inconvenient as some of you are making out :O

[lawrawrrr]

Omg if you're all so concerned don't view the threads ;ll!!! IT'S A PUBLIC FORUM WHAT DO YOU EXPECT.
@laura (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61966); I wouldn't get stroppy if you didn't answer my question :P Thread replies are optional ;)

its just not necessary to see who saw every single thread. Yeah maybe useful for S-Mods but yknow. And warren i'm a class A stalker I read almost every thread ON here!!!

[GoldenMerc]

its just not necessary to see who saw every single thread. Yeah maybe useful for S-Mods but yknow. And warren i'm a class A stalker I read almost every thread ON here!!!

I agree, or maybe make it collapsed automatically before i get to the thread that'd be cool. as your making my forum look like a finding nemo film

[MKR&*42]

its just not necessary to see who saw every single thread. Yeah maybe useful for S-Mods but yknow. And warren i'm a class A stalker I read almost every thread ON here!!!

I suppose it's not necessary, I wouldn't be fussed if it was/wasn't here but the stalking issue is a bit extreme.

SO DO I LAURA. I've even read some in health, life etc. titled (Women only) cry. but it's, half-woman anyway rlly.

[lawrawrrr]

I agree, or maybe make it collapsed automatically before i get to the thread that'd be cool. as your making my forum look like a finding nemo film
i dont get the finding nemo reference :'(


I suppose it's not necessary, I wouldn't be fussed if it was/wasn't here but the stalking issue is a bit extreme.

SO DO I LAURA. I've even read some in health, life etc. titled (Women only) cry. but it's, half-woman anyway rlly.
i dont really get why people want it really

is it so they can see who's looked at the thread but not replied?

[iLogan]

I agree with Laura and don't really like it tbh, I can see it being useful for [READ] threads in the staff forums though.

[GoldenMerc]

i dont get the finding nemo reference :'(


i dont really get why people want it really

is it so they can see who's looked at the thread but not replied?

people with different colour usernames :'( lots of them

[David]

since the stalkers are complaining their secret is out then maybe change it to only OP's can see it?
@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); @Chris (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895);

[MKR&*42]

i dont get the finding nemo reference :'(


i dont really get why people want it really

is it so they can see who's looked at the thread but not replied?

If it's not that, probably just pure curiosity. The "post Areas" function isn't really necessary either, but it's a nice addition and quite interesting. If it is down to users wanting to get sour at people who have looked but not replied at their thread... seems a bit silly and uptight xD.

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I agree with Laura and don't really like it tbh, I can see it being useful for [READ] threads in the staff forums though.

Oh yeah, completely agree with this^

[GoldenMerc]

since the stalkers are complaining their secret is out then maybe change it to only OP's can see it?
@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); @Chris (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895);

agreed with davedot

[lawrawrrr]

people with different colour usernames :'( lots of them
TRY BEING ABLE TO SEE INVISIBLE PEOPLE THERE'S LIKE 2x MORE



If it's not that, probably just pure curiosity. The "post Areas" function isn't really necessary either, but it's a nice addition and quite interesting. If it is down to users wanting to get sour at people who have looked but not replied at their thread... seems a bit silly and uptight xD.

yeah but i can actually imagine that being a problem...

[GoldenMerc]

TRY BEING ABLE TO SEE INVISIBLE PEOPLE THERE'S LIKE 2x MORE




yeah but i can actually imagine that being a problem...

yeh cos people think they are cool appearing offline, soz no1 wants to contact u xx

[buttons]

lmao awkward as i've looked at threads from years before i even signed up
i don't want to be able to be seen once my vip goes :( lol

the only reason i'd want it is to see who has looked but hasn't replied. then we could rage @ management for looking and not fixing our problems!!!11

[Robbie]

not a fan really. big up invisible mode from now on

[Chris]

I agree with Laura and don't really like it tbh, I can see it being useful for [READ] threads in the staff forums though.

I thought that too, would be most useful!


since the stalkers are complaining their secret is out then maybe change it to only OP's can see it?
@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); @Chris (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895);

Could be possible but Matt or Tom would be able to answer that for you. Seeing as a lot of people seem to be so against it, it doesn't seem likely it will be staying.

[Jordan]

I think it would be better for OP's only like it's been suggested. How come it's been disabled as I get that notice at the bottom now? If it's disabled now won't it be better removing it!

[David]

Could be possible but Matt or Tom would be able to answer that for you. Seeing as a lot of people seem to be so against it, it doesn't seem likely it will be staying.

down with the haters, its harmless and everyones moaning for the sake of it :(

[MKR&*42]

TRY BEING ABLE TO SEE INVISIBLE PEOPLE THERE'S LIKE 2x MORE




yeah but i can actually imagine that being a problem...

Mhm probably, some people simply are like that :P

I think it should just be restricted to staff forums now tbh, because they;re useful for the R+R threads. Some people don't reply, so it offers managers the "security" of knowing who has/hasn't bothered looking.

I swear to god if a staff member complains they don't want it to be revealed that they don't read the R+R threads, I'll scream.....

[lawrawrrr]

Mhm probably, some people simply are like that :P

I think it should just be restricted to staff forums now tbh, because they;re useful for the R+R threads. Some people don't reply, so it offers managers the "security" of knowing who has/hasn't bothered looking.

I swear to god if a staff member complains they don't want it to be revealed that they don't read the R+R threads, I'll scream.....

would actually probably help with the inactivity issue too!

[xxMATTGxx]

I think it would be better for OP's only like it's been suggested. How come it's been disabled as I get that notice at the bottom now? If it's disabled now won't it be better removing it!

I was messing with the settings :P

[MKR&*42]

would actually probably help with the inactivity issue too!

Yeah it would help loads really, there is a use to this feature woo.

Omg Matt keep it in staff forums at least if you ever decide not to put it everywhere :P

[lawrawrrr]

Yeah it would help loads really, there is a use to this feature woo.

Omg Matt keep it in staff forums at least if you ever decide not to put it everywhere :P

yeah agreed, or even only let managers see - if other staff see someone not replying they might take things into their own hands :/

[MKR&*42]

yeah agreed, or even only let managers see - if other staff see someone not replying they might take things into their own hands :/

I did think about the managers only thing, but wasn't 100% sure whether that could be edited or not.

Oh wait matt mentioned usergroups on the first page, so I presume it can :P

[David]

no. why should it be restricted to just managers? original posters.

[GoldenMerc]

i agree with original posters, so i can see when Dave.; is spying on me

[MKR&*42]

no. why should it be restricted to just managers? original posters.

The issue of people getting sour at others who have viewed but not replied to their thread (ye there are some people who would probably do that lol).

if it was only for staff, managers only. If it was for all, OPs like you said would be "ok".

[David]

i agree with original posters, so i can see when @Dave. (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=73895); is spying on me

"omg no im a stalker, disable it altogether"

[lawrawrrr]

I was being hypothetical, in relation to R+R threads dave. I'm not even talking about general forum use as I don't think it's necessary and something that could actually spark arguments - WHY DIDN'T YOU REPLY TO MY THREAD, WHY WERE YOU LOOKING AT MY THREAD (both of which I've had because I was looking at a thread at the time, let alone having a fully comprehensive history). Do you actually have a valid use of this or is it just because it's there?

[David]

I was being hypothetical, in relation to R+R threads dave. I'm not even talking about general forum use as I don't think it's necessary and something that could actually spark arguments - WHY DIDN'T YOU REPLY TO MY THREAD, WHY WERE YOU LOOKING AT MY THREAD (both of which I've had because I was looking at a thread at the time, let alone having a fully comprehensive history). Do you actually have a valid use of this or is it just because it's there?

the general interest in knowing who has read a thread i've posted. intent to complain or moan at others wasn't in my hand when i suggested this feature and still isn't.

[lawrawrrr]

the general interest in knowing who has read a thread i've posted. intent to complain or moan at others wasn't in my hand when i suggested this feature and still isn't.

I was just saying it could be possible for someone to use this feature with malicious intent, even if most of us wouldn't.

[GoldenMerc]

ok, lets solve this. make it just a vip function. there isnt that many vips, compared to donators etc correct?
Will make people want to win vip

[Jurv]

it's a nice idea but i'd prefer it if only the original posters could see it. it looks messy on every single thread.

[GoldenMerc]

Recursion; you noob there isn't even a minimize button
http://icap.me/i/HILD1gLgvo.png

[Chris]

I've added a poll to this thread so you are all free to vote for what you want! :)

[MKR&*42]

wow chris just as I was about to say "inb4 someone mentions the poll creation"

:'(

[David]

@Recursion (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=13064); you noob there isn't even a minimize button
http://icap.me/i/HILD1gLgvo.png

i have one, sort of. it's all messed up like tom said

[Recursion]

@Recursion (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=13064); you noob there isn't even a minimize button
http://icap.me/i/HILD1gLgvo.png

If people want it, it will minimize and we'll fix the various bugs associated with it :P

[Chippiewill]

If people want it, it will minimize and we'll fix the various bugs associated with it :P
..eventually.


I've added a poll to this thread so you are all free to vote for what you want! :)
What the hell does "limited mean"?

[Chris]

..eventually.


What the hell does "limited mean"?

Limited being only the OP can see it.

[Jordan]

..eventually.


What the hell does "limited mean"?

So only thread creators get the option most likely.

[xxMATTGxx]

Well it can either be limited to the following:

- Usergroups
- Forums (I think)
- Original Poster (I believe)

[Aiden]

I quite like it..

[scottish]

Not reading through 10 pages of this but basically should be limited, like staff threads etc would be useful, announcements aswell but general threads like general discussion, spam etc it's pointless

[xxMATTGxx]

Seems the feature is liked but the majority want it to be limited. I've been looking in what ways it can be limited and it would be nice to know which one you think is the better option:

A) Only the thread creator can see it on the threads they have created.

B) Limit it to Announcements & Staff Forums but is disabled elsewhere.

C) All threads but only users with VIP can see it.

D) Other - If this option please explain in the thread on what you would like to see in terms of "Limited".

[David]

A or C

[scottish]

B) Limit it to Announcements & Staff Forums but is disabled elsewhere

[lawrawrrr]

D) Unnecessary. Maybe useful for R+R threads but only managers really need to know that information. Just bulky and promotes arguing - why didn't you reply to my thread, why are you stalking me, etc. etc.

[xxMATTGxx]

D) Unnecessary. Maybe useful for R+R threads but only managers really need to know that information. Just bulky and promotes arguing - why didn't you reply to my thread, why are you stalking me, etc. etc.

If any of the last bits happen on the forum due to this feature then I'm quite worried about our userbase! :P

[lawrawrrr]

If any of the last bits happen on the forum due to this feature then I'm quite worried about our userbase! :P
I know it's a long shot but someone's said to me in the past 'i saw you reading that thread you stalker', (and before you say anything it was INTENDED to be rude i SWEARRRR ;)), so that's where my cynicism is coming from.

[Chippiewill]

If you guys really have a problem with stalking you really won't like this page..
http://www.habboxforum.com/online.php?sort=time&pp=20&page=1

[scottish]

this Skynus; kid keeps stalking me?

but yeah I honestly see no use for it other than for management to see what users have read like r+r/activity threads etcccccccc

so i'd limit it to staff/announcements.

[xxMATTGxx]

this Skynus; kid keeps stalking me?

but yeah I honestly see no use for it other than for management to see what users have read like r+r/activity threads etcccccccc

so i'd limit it to staff/announcements.

Don't worry I've heard he does that to everyone.

[GoldenMerc]

A & C

[lawrawrrr]

I heard that too.......

im still to hear an actual valid argument for keeping it other than 'i just want to know' cos that's not valid my friends :l

[FlyingJesus]

A or B

[Recursion]

Styling should be fixed for it now, will look into a collapsible button tomorrow.

[David]

Styling should be fixed for it now, will look into a collapsible button tomorrow.

site skin 11 has a button but you broke it and now it goes #top :(

[Jurv]

a) only the thread creator can see it in thread they have created!!

[Tom]

this @Skynus (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=66909); kid keeps stalking me?

but yeah I honestly see no use for it other than for management to see what users have read like r+r/activity threads etcccccccc

so i'd limit it to staff/announcements.


Don't worry I've heard he does that to everyone.

Get out.

I say C. It'll be nice to see an added feature for VIPs.

[MKR&*42]

Seems the feature is liked but the majority want it to be limited. I've been looking in what ways it can be limited and it would be nice to know which one you think is the better option:

A) Only the thread creator can see it on the threads they have created.

B) Limit it to Announcements & Staff Forums but is disabled elsewhere.

C) All threads but only users with VIP can see it.

D) Other - If this option please explain in the thread on what you would like to see in terms of "Limited".

Wondered why everyone kept saying letters...

Only B.

[Chris]

Seems the feature is liked but the majority want it to be limited. I've been looking in what ways it can be limited and it would be nice to know which one you think is the better option:

A) Only the thread creator can see it on the threads they have created.

B) Limit it to Announcements & Staff Forums but is disabled elsewhere.

C) All threads but only users with VIP can see it.

D) Other - If this option please explain in the thread on what you would like to see in terms of "Limited".

I think B would be the best option.

[Kyle]

A or B!!!!!!!!

[Jordan]

I picked A. Would prefer it that way :)

[xxMATTGxx]

I heard that too.......

im still to hear an actual valid argument for keeping it other than 'i just want to know' cos that's not valid my friends :l

Why is that not valid? Surely if people want to know the information on who has read a thread or their own thread then that's valid. It's just like the online list - It's purely to show information to the user.

[Kyle]

Can we have it show people who are invisible if it's staying

[scottish]

That'll never happenn :P

[xxMATTGxx]

Can we have it show people who are invisible if it's staying

No :P

[Red]

B please. staff threads only x

[Rixion]

Just leave it, it's fine as it is and no harm's done with it there.

[Jarkie]

Just leave it, it's fine as it is and no harm's done with it there.

This. Rep+

[Red]

No its makes my forum look like a multi colour swap show and its an invasion of privacy! I don't wanna be seen when my vip goes.

[David]

No its makes my forum look like a multi colour swap show and its an invasion of privacy! I don't wanna be seen when my vip goes.

there will be a minimise button, and you will be seen anyway .. you show up on the online list and "current activity" on your profile

[Red]

I don't mind people seeing if I'm online but I don't want it to perm show what threads I've viewed...

[David]

I don't mind people seeing if I'm online but I don't want it to perm show what threads I've viewed...

but you voted for it in staff forums?
thread creator only is the best option

[Rainbow]

i quite like it tbh i dont see a problem with it :S

[David]

surely the people against it being public are moaning for the sake of it, if they don't want to be seen as a stalker they would have complained about the "Recent Visitors" box on profiles long before this thread.

[GoldenMerc]

good thing about it is i know sulake staff viewed my thread;
http://icap.me/i/NGCCUguHSG.png

[xxMATTGxx]

I don't mind people seeing if I'm online but I don't want it to perm show what threads I've viewed...

You do realise members can already do that...

[Jarkie]

surely the people against it being public are moaning for the sake of it, if they don't want to be seen as a stalker they would have complained about the "Recent Visitors" box on profiles long before this thread.

This.

[MKR&*42]

This.

I thought about that last night really (in response to Dave.'s post). So I agree with this x 2 in relation to stalker complaints.

[Red]

This.

Um no thats what invisible is for. If I didn't have it i'd just avoid going on profiles lmao

[mrwoooooooo]

Um no thats what invisible is for. If I didn't have it i'd just avoid going on profiles lmao

looks like you're going to have to avoid going in threads too then

[HotelUser]

I haven't checked yet but is there a way to disable this plugin from tracking which threads I view without me having to enable invisible mode?

(edit: Also is this plugin firing off an additional sql query each time it's run, or is it using a cached query. I'm only asking because for really large threads like PAPOY (if it's still around), if it's running additional queries it's going to slow down loading the page).

[GoldenMerc]

nearly 100 people have read this thread, how interesting.

[FlyingJesus]

It still doesn't even show up for me tbh

[GoldenMerc]

guess this is pretty useless if it doesn't show people who are appearing offline (well i imagine it shows for managers, smods, admins and above) but id like to know when Red; views my threads, it excites me

[Red]

will I have vip for over a year anyway so unlucky ross x

[GoldenMerc]

they must fix this bug or i'd like to change my vote

[xxMATTGxx]

guess this is pretty useless if it doesn't show people who are appearing offline (well i imagine it shows for managers, smods, admins and above) but id like to know when Red; views my threads, it excites me


they must fix this bug or i'd like to change my vote

It isn't a bug.


I haven't checked yet but is there a way to disable this plugin from tracking which threads I view without me having to enable invisible mode?

(edit: Also is this plugin firing off an additional sql query each time it's run, or is it using a cached query. I'm only asking because for really large threads like PAPOY (if it's still around), if it's running additional queries it's going to slow down loading the page).

No there isn't.

[GoldenMerc]

It isn't a bug.

imo it is, it defeats the object of the point if i can't see who's viewed it, if they are appearing offline or not...

[Chippiewill]

I haven't checked yet but is there a way to disable this plugin from tracking which threads I view without me having to enable invisible mode?

(edit: Also is this plugin firing off an additional sql query each time it's run, or is it using a cached query. I'm only asking because for really large threads like PAPOY (if it's still around), if it's running additional queries it's going to slow down loading the page).

I don't think it's a plugin. There's no way to disable it other than invisible mode. Either way I expect it's quite query heavy as it has a separate list for every person depending on when they first got the feature, first got access to the thread etc.

[xxMATTGxx]

imo it is, it defeats the object of the point if i can't see who's viewed it, if they are appearing offline or not...

If a user is in "Invisible" mode then obviously it wouldn't show - Hence why it isn't a bug. That would defeat the point of the invisible mode feature.


I don't think it's a plugin. There's no way to disable it other than invisible mode. Either way I expect it's quite query heavy as it has a separate list for every person depending on when they first got the feature, first got access to the thread etc.

Correct in terms of it not being a plugin - It's built into vbulletin.

[GoldenMerc]

well if i can't see half the people who viewed my thread why would i care?

[xxMATTGxx]

well if i can't see half the people who viewed my thread why would i care?

I can't answer that question because that is something for you to decide - It still isn't a bug regardless. Plus, it's why people are suppose to choose a letter :(


Seems the feature is liked but the majority want it to be limited. I've been looking in what ways it can be limited and it would be nice to know which one you think is the better option:

A) Only the thread creator can see it on the threads they have created.

B) Limit it to Announcements & Staff Forums but is disabled elsewhere.

C) All threads but only users with VIP can see it.

D) Other - If this option please explain in the thread on what you would like to see in terms of "Limited".

[LiquidLuck.]

I really like it and i think its usefull even with a long list

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I dont even know if this is possible or you would be willing to do só, plus i am not able to see it in most threads, but what about instead of always seing it, you could either enable or disable it, or you could have those "show" things :S

[edible]

stupid options

you're all elitist and forget new users exist

[brandon]

I'd go with either A or B.

[FlyingJesus]

stupid options

you're all elitist and forget new users exist

I believe your opinion would come under D) Other and should probably be accompanied with some actual reasoning and your own suggestion.

[edible]

I believe your opinion would come under D) Other and should probably be accompanied with some actual reasoning and your own suggestion.
What a surprise someone who has been here for years can't see another perspective.

[xxMATTGxx]

What a surprise someone who has been here for years can't see another perspective.

You joined in the same year...

[edible]

You joined in the same year...
Hence the can't see another perspective comment. I will assume that you're fully literate and will then assume you as General Manager will have read the thread. If both of my assumptions are correct, which they should be, you will see I disagree with what is being proposed and how this discussion has been channeled down a narrow path that ignores one of the fundamental and eternal issues with Habbox.

[Kardan]

When it means 'I want it limited', does that mean to certain threads or certain usergroups.

Personally I like the feature and think it should be kept to the thread creator only, and a feature for high usergroups, donators and VIPs.

[MKR&*42]

When it means 'I want it limited', does that mean to certain threads or certain usergroups.

Personally I like the feature and think it should be kept to the thread creator only, and a feature for high usergroups, donators and VIPs.

It can be limited to 3 different things, Matt posted a thing about it. I'll go get it.
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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx http://www.habboxforum.com/images/hxf_pink/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=7669469#post7669469)
Seems the feature is liked but the majority want it to be limited. I've been looking in what ways it can be limited and it would be nice to know which one you think is the better option:

A) Only the thread creator can see it on the threads they have created.

B) Limit it to Announcements & Staff Forums but is disabled elsewhere.

C) All threads but only users with VIP can see it.

D) Other - If this option please explain in the thread on what you would like to see in terms of "Limited".

[xxMATTGxx]

Hence the can't see another perspective comment. I will assume that you're fully literate and will then assume you as General Manager will have read the thread. If both of my assumptions are correct, which they should be, you will see I disagree with what is being proposed and how this discussion has been channeled down a narrow path that ignores one of the fundamental and eternal issues with Habbox.

You said "Stupid options" - Explain why they are supid and how they forget new users? Because that's the whole purpose of a thread in feedback. You are also suppose to give your own suggestions if you don't agree with something.

[Kardan]

It can be limited to 3 different things, Matt posted a thing about it. I'll go get it.
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In that case, I'd go for 'Other':

Let only the thread creator see it if a high usergroup/donator/VIP - So combining options A and C really.

[GoldenMerc]

In that case, I'd go for 'Other':

Let only the thread creator see it if a high usergroup/donator/VIP - So combining options A and C really.

I don't want it :P
OP only x

[edible]

You said "Stupid options" - Explain why they are supid and how they forget new users? Because that's the whole purpose of a thread in feedback. You are also suppose to give your own suggestions if you don't agree with something.

I was giving my feedback on this thread and how it has been dictated. If you want be to explain my outlook then I will. However, the fact that I'm the first to even mention it in the 16 pages of heavy drivel then I doubt it will have much of an impact and I'm not really one to waste my time. Your call.

[xxMATTGxx]

I was giving my feedback on this thread and how it has been dictated. If you want be to explain my outlook then I will. However, the fact that I'm the first to even mention it in the 16 pages of heavy drivel then I doubt it will have much of an impact and I'm not really one to waste my time. Your call.

Oh dear indeed. Just explain why it's not fair to new users and what you suggest instead because you have voted for it to stay.

[edible]

Oh dear indeed. Just explain why it's not fair to new users and what you suggest instead because you have voted for it to stay.

I can see it, so I assume everyone can or can I see it because I have VIP? Answer that first and I'll tell you what should be done.

[xxMATTGxx]

I can see it, so I assume everyone can or can I see it because I have VIP? Answer that first and I'll tell you what should be done.

It is enabled for everyone at this moment in time to show everyone what it looks like and what it does. At the time of me posting this below was that the majority wanted it to be limited - But the votes are now close in terms of limited and want it to stay:


Seems the feature is liked but the majority want it to be limited. I've been looking in what ways it can be limited and it would be nice to know which one you think is the better option:

A) Only the thread creator can see it on the threads they have created.

B) Limit it to Announcements & Staff Forums but is disabled elsewhere.

C) All threads but only users with VIP can see it.

D) Other - If this option please explain in the thread on what you would like to see in terms of "Limited".

[Kardan]

I don't want it :P
OP only x

Huh?
I'm saying if you have a high usergroup, donator or VIP than you can use it on your own threads :)
So if you don't want it, why would you say OP only, because you'd still get it on your threads?

[GoldenMerc]

Huh?
I'm saying if you have a high usergroup, donator or VIP than you can use it on your own threads :)
So if you don't want it, why would you say OP only, because you'd still get it on your threads?

it'd be sort of useful on own threads, but thats it :P
if its on someone elses thread idc

[Kardan]

it'd be sort of useful on own threads, but thats it :P
if its on someone elses thread idc

I agree :) I just think it should just be a feature for certain members, that's all :)

[edible]

It is enabled for everyone at this moment in time to show everyone what it looks like and what it does. At the time of me posting this below was that the majority wanted it to be limited - But the votes are now close in terms of limited and want it to stay:
This is my issue. Majority wanted it limited? Are you surprised, if they can obtain something that others can't then they are going to vote for it, it all boils down to feeling superior. Why can't all members have it? I think there are enough benefits for VIP / limited members, this one should be given to all. Give the newer users and those who aren't VIP something special because from what I can see they have very little.

[xxMATTGxx]

This is my issue. Majority wanted it limited? Are you surprised, if they can obtain something that others can't then they are going to vote for it, it all boils down to feeling superior. Why can't all members have it? I think there are enough benefits for VIP / limited members, this one should be given to all. Give the newer users and those who aren't VIP something special because from what I can see they have very little.

I'm not being funny but if you did actually read my posts you would see that only one option mentions it being limited to VIP:


C) All threads but only users with VIP can see it.

The other options was limiting it to specific forums or to the thread creator only so you can only see it in the threads you have created. When users voted "Limited" that does not automatically mean limited to VIP usergroups - It can be a number of things.

[Jordan]

This is my issue. Majority wanted it limited? Are you surprised, if they can obtain something that others can't then they are going to vote for it, it all boils down to feeling superior. Why can't all members have it? I think there are enough benefits for VIP / limited members, this one should be given to all. Give the newer users and those who aren't VIP something special because from what I can see they have very little.

Most people who have voted limited want it to be a feature for the original poster so anyone can get it, new members, non vip's as long as it's their own thread.


(am i reading this right?)

[edible]

I'm not being funny but if you did actually read my posts you would see that only one option mentions it being limited to VIP:



The other options was limiting it to specific forums or to the thread creator only so you can only see it in the threads you create. When users voted "Limited" that does not automatically mean limited to VIP usergroups - It can be a number of things.

Yes and if you read mine I am against any sort of limitation. I didn't think I'd have to make it that obvious, however, I will, just for your benefit. Why can't you keep it as it is, people who have voted are mostly people who are vip members / members who have vip / read announcements. The majority of users don't do these things. Simple enough?

[xxMATTGxx]

Yes and if you read mine I am against any sort of limitation. I didn't think I'd have to make it that obvious, however, I will, just for your benefit. Why can't you keep it as it is, people who have voted are mostly people who are vip members / members who have vip / read announcements. The majority of users don't do these things. Simple enough?

All the other options will NOT limit it to VIP users. Any of the other options would also not hurt any new users either.

[edible]

All the other options will NOT limit it to VIP users. Any of the other options would also not hurt any new users either.
I know that. I can make things bold too! The other options benefit a certain type of user. Therefore limiting. Therefore not useful for everyone. Therefore I don't agree. Therefore, therefore & therefore.

[xxMATTGxx]

Also it doesn't matter if VIP people vote in polls - They also use the forum as well as new users. The only option that would truly hurt new users if it was limited to VIP or high end up user groups.


I know that. I can make things bold too! The other options benefit a certain type of user. Therefore limiting. Therefore not useful for everyone. Therefore I don't agree. Therefore, therefore & therefore.

Well yes but they would still be able to see it if was restricted to announcements. The thread creator one only - If they made threads on the forum then they would still see it. Regardless if they are VIP or not. But you should of chose the last option and said you wanted it to to stay for everyone in every thread.

[Jordan]

I know that. I can make things bold too! The other options benefit a certain type of user. Therefore limiting. Therefore not useful for everyone. Therefore I don't agree. Therefore, therefore & therefore.

The option that is most likely going to go into practise is the one for limiting it the the thread starter only. VIP's aren't the only people who are allowed to create threads so we are not limiting this to VIP's.

A) Only the thread creator can see it on the threads they have created. - No limits to no one as anyone can create a thread.

B) Limit it to Announcements & Staff Forums but is disabled elsewhere. - Again no limits because everyone can read the announcements.

C) All threads but only users with VIP can see it. - As said already the only option that is only limiting it for VIP's

D) Other - If this option please explain in the thread on what you would like to see in terms of "Limited". - Other.

[edible]

Also it doesn't matter if VIP people vote in polls - They also use the forum as well as new users. The only option that would truly hurt new users if it was limited to VIP or high end up user groups.



Well yes but they would still be able to see it if was restricted to announcements. The thread creator one only - If they made threads on the forum then they would still see it. Regardless if they are VIP or not. But you should of chose the last option and said you wanted it to to stay for everyone in every thread.


The option that is most likely going to go into practise is the one for limiting it the the thread starter only. VIP's aren't the only people who are allowed to create threads so we are not limiting this to VIP's.

Judging by the amount of people online and the amount of posts, I can comfortably say that the majority of people lurk and view threads rather than posting and creating them. With what you have proposed, they won't be able to make the most of this feature. Just because they lurk doesn't mean they should be ignored.

[xxMATTGxx]

Judging by the amount of people online and the amount of posts, I can comfortably say that the majority of people lurk and view threads rather than posting and creating them. With what you have proposed, they won't be able to make the most of this feature. Just because they lurk doesn't mean they should be ignored.

It's a very minor feature and any user can create threads - So if they really wanted to see it then what would they do? Post threads. It's not stopping them from using the core functionality of the forum.

[Chris]

This is being blown way out of proportion here. Any member is welcome to make a thread and if they do then they can make use of this feature should they wish. It isn't going to have some detrimental effect on any member since until yesterday, it was never used at all.

[edible]

It's a very minor feature and any user can create threads - So if they really wanted to see it then what would they do? Post threads. It's not stopping them from using the core functionality of the forum.


This is being blown way out of proportion here. Any member is welcome to make a thread and if they do then they can make use of this feature should they wish. It isn't going to have some detrimental effect on any member since until yesterday, it was never used at all.


Both very negative. You shouldn't have that mentality. You should give people, regardless of what users they are (lurkers, active, pointless repliers) as many features as possible. Are you more likely to buy a car that has lots of features that you find useful or a basic model?

[Chris]

Both very negative. You shouldn't have that mentality. You should give people, regardless of what users they are (lurkers, active, pointless repliers) as many features as possible. Are you more likely to buy a car that has lots of features that you find useful or a basic model?

The difference is that you're not buying anything. Creating threads is an ability that every normal member has.

[xxMATTGxx]

Both very negative. You shouldn't have that mentality. You should give people, regardless of what users they are (lurkers, active, pointless repliers) as many features as possible. Are you more likely to buy a car that has lots of features that you find useful or a basic model?

Depends if you can afford it or not to be honest. But you don't spend any money to be able to create threads on this forum.

[Kardan]

Both very negative. You shouldn't have that mentality. You should give people, regardless of what users they are (lurkers, active, pointless repliers) as many features as possible. Are you more likely to buy a car that has lots of features that you find useful or a basic model?

To be honest, I highly doubt a guest viewing the forum will join just because they can see who has viewed every thread.

[edible]

The difference is that you're not buying anything. Creating threads is an ability that every normal member has.


Depends if you can afford it or not to be honest. But you don't spend any money to be able to create threads on this forum.
Sherlock! Not every member creates threads. Why would you want to take it away from certain members? It makes little sense.

To be honest, I highly doubt a guest viewing the forum will join just because they can see who has viewed every thread.
Correct because guests won't be able to see either way. However, a new member is more likely to stay with the have optimum features.

[xxMATTGxx]

Users will not choose HabboxForum over other forums over 1 minor feature like this.

[edible]

Users will not choose HabboxForum over other forums over 1 minor feature like this.

Giving them it makes sure of that. Not giving them it, doesn't.

[Kardan]

Sherlock! Not every member creates threads. Why would you want to take it away from certain members? It makes little sense.

Correct because guests won't be able to see either way. However, a new member is more likely to stay with the have optimum features.

In that case, would you not argue that all new members should have all the VIP Features? Personally I don't think it's a valid point, it makes sense for only the thread poster to see who views the thread, just like reputation.

[edible]

In that case, would you not argue that all new members should have all the VIP Features? Personally I don't think it's a valid point, it makes sense for only the thread poster to see who views the thread, just like reputation.
No, this has been explained in previous posts.

[xxMATTGxx]

Giving them it makes sure of that. Not giving them it, doesn't.

Giving to the thread creator also makes sure of that. If they want it that much then they would post to see it on their threads.

[edible]

Giving to the thread creator also makes sure of that. If they want it that much then they would post to see it on their threads.
Can you really not see a situation where someone viewing the thread who isn't the OP wants to see who viewed the thread.

[David]

*Removed*


everyone hurry up and pick a letter

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't target users.

[edible]

*REMOVED*

everyone hurry up and pick a letter

Pretty sure that your level of education will be considerably inferior to mine. However, that isn't important here. If you're too simple to understand basic concepts then it's best you don't reply again.

[David]

Pretty sure that your level of education will be considerably inferior to mine. However, that isn't important here. If you're too simple to understand basic concepts then it's best you don't reply again.

oh so your one of those guys that think they're better than everyone else
*REMOVED*

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude to other members.

[edible]

oh so your one of those guys that think they're better than everyone else

*REMOVED*
Your? Oh dear. I rest my case.

Anyway back to the topic, with people who are able to discuss topics, not people who joined two years ago and are unable to discuss without resorting to insults.

[Kardan]

*REMOVED*


everyone hurry up and pick a letter

You'll probably get warned for that post, but the amount of rep you got for this post will probably make up for that :P


Pretty sure that your level of education will be considerably inferior to mine. However, that isn't important here. If you're too simple to understand basic concepts then it's best you don't reply again.

I don't see how people's level of education is relevant in a discussion about forum plug-ins.

[edible]

You'll probably get warned for that post, but the amount of rep you got for this post will probably make up for that :P



I don't see how people's level of education is relevant in a discussion about forum plug-ins.

I think you meant to quote the person who derailed the topic from forum plug-ins. Oh, unless you too, can't comprehend that someone on a forum disagrees with you *REMOVED*

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't be rude to other members.

[MKR&*42]

You'll probably get warned for that post, but the amount of rep you got for this post will probably make up for that :P



I don't see how people's level of education is relevant in a discussion about forum plug-ins.

Then you could argue that calling someone an idiot for no necessary reason, isn't suitable for this topic either... :P

[edible]

Then you could argue that calling someone an idiot for no necessary reason, isn't suitable for this topic either... :P

He ignored that as I'm the one disagreeing with him about plug-ins! Sad state of affairs.

[Kardan]

I think you meant to quote the person who derailed the topic from forum plug-ins. Oh, unless you too, can't comprehend that someone on a forum disagrees with you and support fellow imbeciles.

Trust me, I'm used to people disagreeing with me, I just don't think you need to be rude to people, such as your previous post. Although I am now quite interested in your level of education that you are so proud of :)

And yes Intersocial, you could :)

[Inseriousity.]

Both very negative. You shouldn't have that mentality. You should give people, regardless of what users they are (lurkers, active, pointless repliers) as many features as possible. Are you more likely to buy a car that has lots of features that you find useful or a basic model?

I agree and disagree to a certain extent. While I agree that we need to be as open as possible (ie not using those 'you have viewed your maximum number of threads, please register) there is also great value in holding features back. Isn't that the psychology behind a rewards, reputation, post system in the first place? If members place value in these things, they will strive to accomplish those tasks that will arrive at the intended outcome. Everyone strives for something out of their reach (if what is out of their reach they deem to be valuable). In that sense therefore it makes sense to say 'hang on you need to work for x, y and z. This feature is not going to be handed to you. Be active in our community and you will be rewarded.'

As someone who voted against having this removed, I would not be against limiting it to VIP/donators based on the lack of accessibility to new users if that then makes new users strive for that reward. For example, I like VIP because I like knowing who's repped me. That's it. The only feature I like so if it vanished or everyone had it, I wouldn't really care if I didn't have it and therefore I would probably contribute less to the community by either not entering comps where VIP is won or not buying donator that helps contribute to the site's funds.

Despite all that, there is perhaps a simpler argument you can go for and that's that the poll now actually says the majority want it to stay non-limited (and yes I know it probably wasn't when the post was made, this wasn't an attack on those voting for a limited system) but it seems the poll has swung in a different direction and what's the point of having a poll if you aren't going to listen to it.

[edible]

Trust me, I'm used to people disagreeing with me, I just don't think you need to be rude to people, such as your previous post. Although I am now quite interested in your level of education that you are so proud of :)

And yes Intersocial, you could :)

Let us just say that unlike most on here I'm not a pseudo-intellectual. If someone is going to call me an idiot, I'm going to disagree and say why :)

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I agree and disagree to a certain extent. While I agree that we need to be as open as possible (ie not using those 'you have viewed your maximum number of threads, please register) there is also great value in holding features back. Isn't that the psychology behind a rewards, reputation, post system in the first place? If members place value in these things, they will strive to accomplish those tasks that will arrive at the intended outcome. Everyone strives for something out of their reach (if what is out of their reach they deem to be valuable). In that sense therefore it makes sense to say 'hang on you need to work for x, y and z. This feature is not going to be handed to you. Be active in our community and you will be rewarded.'

As someone who voted against having this removed, I would not be against limiting it to VIP/donators based on the lack of accessibility to new users if that then makes new users strive for that reward. For example, I like VIP because I like knowing who's repped me. That's it. The only feature I like so if it vanished or everyone had it, I wouldn't really care if I didn't have it and therefore I would probably contribute less to the community by either not entering comps where VIP is won or not buying donator that helps contribute to the site's funds).

Despite all that, there is perhaps a simpler argument you can go for and that's that the poll now actually says the majority want it to stay non-limited (and yes I know it probably wasn't when the post was made, this wasn't an attack on those voting for a limited system) but it seems the poll has swung in a different direction and what's the point of having a poll if you aren't going to listen to it.

Well reasoned post. I can see what you're saying and that is the main argument against to what I believe would be best. Your argument certainly holds merit though. Although, if its just thread starters, which it appears it might be then this discussion is pointless anyway :P

[FlyingJesus]

What a surprise someone who has been here for years can't see another perspective.

Well that isn't what I said at all, I simply told you that if you had a differing opinion it would be best to actually state it rather than just complain. If I'd said HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST THAT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO THINGS then your response here would be valid, but since what I actually did was open the floor for you to express yourself I'd say that what really occurred was the complete opposite of not being able to see from another perspective.

Besides, my favoured options were A and B (more so B), which absolutely everyone has access to, and my preference is based on it not being a necessary feature rather than trying to be superior as you later suggest.


Pretty sure that your level of education will be considerably inferior to mine. However, that isn't important here. If you're too simple to understand basic concepts then it's best you don't reply again.

So are you for elitism or against it?

[TonyBest]

I want it to stay, although it could use some work as it looks messy atm.

[Jarkie]

Keep it.

[Catchy]

Keep it, why are being voting to get rid of it? What's wrong with it? It's a nice little feature and what would be the point of it being limited to certain people? If you're nosey like me you like to know who's read what etc.

[xxMATTGxx]

Poll closes at 21:00 BST

[hamheyelliot]

I don't mind it too much, I don't really think it has much of a useful application (apart from validating whether a member has seen a thread or something).

It might annoy those who have started threads seeking feedback or replies, where the thread is empty/bare yet there's evidence a ton of people have read it. That's the only way I see it being counter-productive at times.

[Chris]

The poll has now closed. It looks like it will be staying! :)

[David]

winner

[Jarkie]

The poll has now closed. It looks like it will be staying! :)

Good. as its no different from our profile stalker info. :)

[Kardan]

Okay, so despite the outcome of the poll saying this feature would only be to OP's, how come VIPs have this feature across all threads?

[David]

Okay, so despite the outcome of the poll saying this feature would only be to OP's, how come VIPs have this feature across all threads?

the poll says it stays for everyone, in every thread

[Kardan]

the poll says it stays for everyone, in every thread

I was under the impression that the first option was for OP's. Let me re-read the thread...

Ah, I first read the thread at the wrong time, Matt posted three options in relation to what 'Limited' meant (Option C), but I thought the first option in terms of what Option C meant, was the first option on the poll, so I voted for the wrong thing.

So every member can see who has read every thread? Bleh.

[edible]

So every member can see who has read every thread? Bleh.

Why shouldn't they be able to?

[Kardan]

Why shouldn't they be able to?

I think it'd be better suited to just OP's.

[edible]

I think it'd be better suited to just OP's.
Why so?

[Kardan]

Why so?

Just a personal opinion, I'd find it interesting who has read my threads, but I have no interest in who has read any thread.

[Martin]

Has this been removed now? I can't see it anymore! :O Has it just been set for OPs or something?

[David]

Has this been removed now? I can't see it anymore! :O Has it just been set for OPs or something?

i can see it in all threads :O

[Martin]

i can see it in all threads :O

Oh right :O I can't see it in any!

Maybe a problem with orange VIP or something idk?

[Chris]

Has this been removed now? I can't see it anymore! :O Has it just been set for OPs or something?

Permission issue. Should be fine now!

[Martin]

Permission issue. Should be fine now!

THANKS IRL :love:

[Johnathan]

Oh right :O I can't see it in any!

Maybe a problem with orange VIP or something idk?

After the spam thread with the whole Canada, USA thing. I wouldn't be surprised if you have forgotten to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page tbh.

[MKR&*42]

After the spam thread with the whole Canada, USA thing. I wouldn't be surprised if you have forgotten to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page tbh.

LMFAO +1

Ot oh urm: Ok ngl, I constantly look at it now. I love it : )