Apple Event Thread (New iPhone, iPods)

[iBlueBox]

12th of September..
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/09/iphone_2012_media_invite.jpg

Thread moved by Jordan (Forum Super Moderator): From 'Technology Discussion' to here as more suited

[efq]

so buying it

[j0rd]

Probably get it as next phone when contract runs out early next year

[Mat7]

I want it but I'm stuck with my Blackberry for another year...

[efq]

You can buy out contracts?

[mrwoooooooo]

People who buy out contracts just to have the latest toy are idiots.

I'll be waiting for the bset android phone when my contract runs out ^^

The fact that people are saying 'omg i want this so bad' etc without even knowing anything about the phone is the most annoying part

[Tomm]

Why would you commit yourself to buying a product that you don't know anything for sure about and has not even been announced officially by the manufacturer? Seems totally illogical to me.


so buying it

[wiktoria]

gna get it for xmas

[efq]

Why would you commit yourself to buying a product that you don't know anything for sure about and has not even been announced officially by the manufacturer? Seems totally illogical to me.because i have an unhealthy obsession with apple and their products, especially their iphones.

[dirrty]

hoping it's not too expensive. didn't bother getting the 4s because the differences (compared to the 4) were meh, so hoping this will persuade me to upgrade.

[Jack!]

Not had an iPhone since the iPhone 3 thats been worth keeping, really hoping this will be decent enough to get, If the leaks are correct the hardware looks nice, but its down to he software, don't really want the old apps letterboxing.

[GoldenMerc]

Exciting, guessing no one has pictures?

[dirrty]

Exciting, guessing no one has pictures?
i just stalk macrumors.com for info regarding everything apple. got the following pics from various posts. what it'll supposedly look like...

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/09/Unknown-500x333.jpg
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/08/nowhereelse_mini_dock_connector_1-500x457.jpg
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/08/iphone_3gs_4_5_sides.jpg
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/08/iphone_2012_black_white_rear.jpg
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/08/iphone_2012_4s_side_by_side_front_panels-500x535.jpg
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/08/iphone_5_dock_ring.jpg
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/08/apple_usb_mini_dock_cable.jpg

[Icemaniceice]

I'll be getting it :)

[Metric1]

GNA GET IT

[Recursion]

These threads are where we find out who the real sheep are, considering the Galaxy S3 is probably better spec wise.

[Futz]

uhhh means i gotta sell my 4S before it loses value, not to buy a 5 just 'cause i dont want it :(

[iBlueBox]

18th Birthday in October anyway so presents sorted.

[GommeInc]

The pictures seem decent, but for years now these events have not been as good as they used to. There's only so many times they can release the same product over and over again, and I mean that by the under the hood stuff getting drowned out by Apple conferences showing pictures of the phone from the front, and I would hope we've all become accustomed to what the iPhone looks like now :P

Hardware wise, it's just upgrades and as with any piece of tech what's on the inside is going to be out of date soon after or even before the phone is on the market. Looks and features are all people care about, and as iOS6 is already out - the features aren't going to be the focus. The phone hasn't really got much going for it, other than over-excited fans and a rumoured, larger screen. These events only excite iPhone users, they very seldom appeal to the tech world in general.

[Catchy]

Really hope people know that they're paying for a BRAND, for what the phone actually is the price is daylight robbery. I'm an iPhone user myself so before I get the old "your'e just jealous you don't have one" I do lol just not overly fussed.

[Oasis]

Can't wait to buy it.

[Red]

M y contract is finished on iphone4 but I'm not really bothered about getting this. If the image that was leaked is real, I don't like the fact the headphones are at bottom.

[samsaBEAR]

That aluminium back looks so tacky.

[Demi]

Probably won't buy, the iPhone 4s does enough for me.

[Mr-Trainor]

I'm not a huge fan of the rumoured iPhone, or at least not excited by it, but I'm not buying a new phone for a while anyway. The event should be interesting, though.

[hamheyelliot]

Doesn't really seem like the kind of iPhone the entire tech world can get excited about any more. I'm basing this all around speculation of course, but at the moment it's the slightly improved iPhone for people with iPhones. I'm an Android user, not a fanboy - but there's not much classic Apple innovation going on any more, which is a little disappointing.

[HotelUser]

I have two options to get an iPhone 5:

A) Go on a three year contract to get one, which is $50 a month and I only get 500mb down

B) Buy one for an off contract price (and I think that's expensive)

So instead I bought an unlocked used iPhone 4s, and I'm eagerly awaiting the downfall of North American phone carriers :)

[xxMATTGxx]

Looks like the leaks were correct.

[j0rd]

Tried looking on the Apple site but it just shows the 4s, can't find any pictures or anything

[xxMATTGxx]

Tried looking on the Apple site but it just shows the 4s, can't find any pictures or anything

It's not on the Apple site yet. They release the pages after the event. It will work on UK's 4G network with Everything Everywhere (EE)

[j0rd]

18.22 LTE - that's 4G to you and me - is confirmed. Whether it'll work in the UK... is a yes. EE even gets a name check from Schiller.

interesting

[xxMATTGxx]

interesting

http://ee.co.uk/

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Just some funny things from twitter:


The first person who tells me my camera sucks because it doesn't have sapphire crystal gets murdered.


"precision lens alignment" is a new feature in the iPhone camera. So before, it was all misaligned?

[Johnathan]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/sep/12/iphone-5-launch-apple-live-coverage

Live feed of the conference as it happens.

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Time for the connector evolve. New connector is called Lightning. "So now we have Thunderbolt and Lightning."

http://s12.postimage.org/o0bk5al31/phpp7_Uhj5_thumb_IMG_0508.jpg

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[j0rd]

Can't think of why a new connector was needed, but hey, why not.

[Johnathan]

http://s10.postimage.org/6wjz7gutl/gggg.jpg


Improved video as well. 1080p HD video, improved video stabilization, face detection for up to 10 faces, and you can take photos while you're recording video. Camera on front is now FaceTime HD 720p HD camera with backside illumination, and FaceTime over cellular.

[j0rd]

Apple.co.uk seems to be down now, .com is still up though

[Johnathan]

Passbook is next. This is the way to collect all your passes in one place: movie tickets, airline boarding pass, coupon, store card with a balance, ticket for a concert, a ticket for a baseball game.

Shred a ticket when you're done with it.

Boarding pass automatically appears on the lockscreen when you're nearby.

This is cool.


iPhone 5 comes in all-black design with slate back, but there's a white iPhone as well, glass is white, got a bright silver aluminum finish.

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http://s11.postimage.org/6ufrip8nn/yyyyyy.jpg

[mrwoooooooo]

it's all very meh

[xxMATTGxx]

14th September = Pre-order
21st September = Release (Most main countries - UK included)

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http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8302/iPhone5_0727.jpg

New iTunes - I wonder if it will properly this time.

[xxMATTGxx]

New iPad Nano:

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8313/iPhone5_0766.jpg

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8314/iPhone5_0770.jpg

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8315/iPhone5_0776.jpg

New iPod Touch:

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8325/iPhone5_0797.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/09/img0493.jpg

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8330/iPhone5_0818.jpg

Features (iPod Touch):

Better battery life, A5 chip and better camera.

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Wrist strap for the iPod Touch: - You can take it off.

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8346/iPhone5_0873.jpg

[Johnathan]

I'm actually really excited for this. :D

[xxMATTGxx]

iPod Touch now has colours!

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8356/iPhone5_0896.jpg



Earpods

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8360/iPhone5_0918.jpg

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8367/iPhone5_0937.jpg

[Johnathan]

iPod Touch now has colours!

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8356/iPhone5_0896.jpg


Earpods

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8360/iPhone5_0918.jpg

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/8367/iPhone5_0937.jpg

It also has Siri on it. Keep up Matty boy! LOL

[xxMATTGxx]

Siri is crap - Hence why I didn't mention it.

[Johnathan]

Siri is crap - Hence why I didn't mention it.

Oh snap. I do agree with you. However I thought you were posting these items for informational purposes. Thus including all the information... Haha

[xxMATTGxx]

Best thing about the new earphones? This:

http://mattgarner.net/upload/images/2012/09/12/PVRaY.jpg

[samsaBEAR]

New Nano looks kinda cool, but the new iPhone is a joke.

[iBlueBox]

I'm excited for the new earphones.

[Johnathan]

Best thing about the new earphones? This:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2nOvDHCEAAru4G.jpg

Broken link...?

[Mark]

I'd love to try the new earphones, but they really look uncomfortable...
My contract runs out just before xmas and the likelihood of me getting the new iPhone is high. However nothing has really given me the 'wow' factor from this.

[xxMATTGxx]

Broken link...?

Fixed

[Mr-Trainor]

Apple website has now been updated with the new products.
http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone
http://www.apple.com/uk/ipodtouch

[Johnathan]

I'd love to try the new earphones, but they really look uncomfortable...
My contract runs out just before xmas and the likelihood of me getting the new iPhone is high. However nothing has really given me the 'wow' factor from this.

I completely agree with you. I however always end up buying a phone full price before my contract ends. LOL


Fixed

LMAO. That's actually a pretty good laugh right there.

[xxMATTGxx]

Quick links for you all:

http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/
http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/
http://www.apple.com/uk/ipod/

[Mark]

The Apple Store is also back up!

[iBlueBox]

Got a few questions, Rep If anyone helps answer them.

If you bought an iPhone unlocked from the apple store, what would you do to get it on a network because your not buying it from a network such as orange?

Can you buy iPhones from the Apple Store already on networks with plans, such as from orange on pay as you go in the apple store?

[xxMATTGxx]

Got a few questions, Rep If anyone helps answer them.

If you bought an iPhone unlocked from the apple store, what would you do to get it on a network because your not buying it from a network such as orange?

Can you buy iPhones from the Apple Store already on networks with plans, such as from orange on pay as you go in the apple store?

You would get nano sim card for whatever network you are wanting to use and insert it. In regards of your second question they had options for the previous iPhones on what plans and networks you want to be on. But you can buy an unlocked iPhone 5 for £529.

[iBlueBox]

You would get nano sim card for whatever network you are wanting to use and insert it. In regards of your second question they had options for the previous iPhones on what plans and networks you want to be on. But you can buy an unlocked iPhone 5 for £529.


Thanks!

I'm thinking of waiting till at least most networks release the plans for the new iPhone,
still debating either to get the phone on contract or pay as you go.

[Recursion]

I *really* like the new iPod Nano designs, but honestly... what were they thinking with the weird back on the iPhone 5?

[xxMATTGxx]

Best thing to come out of the event for me was the iPod Nanos.

[samsaBEAR]

Best thing to come out of the event for me was the iPod Nanos.
Agreed, I have a 4th Gen Nano, and I've always been worried about replacing it should it ever break. I've disliked all the Nano since, but this new one looks pretty sweet. I don't like how the forward/backward buttons are on the side though.

[xxMATTGxx]

I think it's time that Apple started changing iOS. They sell millions of devices which is fantastic but they all look the same - You can't personalise them at all. I'm not on about what the actual device looks like, I'm on about what the operating system looks like.

[Chippiewill]

Seems like Apple is going to the rather sensible effort of separating the iPod touch from the iPhone with all those pretty colours, since currently it's just iPhone without the phone. Actually makes the various lines of Apple products more distinct from each other, I suspect this means the next iPad will be colourfied also.

[xxMATTGxx]

Seems like Apple is going to the rather sensible effort of separating the iPod touch from the iPhone with all those pretty colours, since currently it's just iPhone without the phone. Actually makes the various lines of Apple products more distinct from each other, I suspect this means the next iPad will be colourfied also.

iPad Mini first ;)

[Hayleigh]

I like the new back on the iPhone 5, but really don't see any point updating my 4s, :))))

[iBlueBox]

I'm rather glad I did not update from the 4 to the 4S,

But I'm happy to upgrade from the 4 to the 5.

[Chippiewill]

iPad Mini first ;)

Or the iPod Touch Maxi, you never know!

[GommeInc]

The iPod Nanos are the only interesting thing to come from this event, they do look really good! Part of me thinks the practicalities of the old Nano were better than this new one though - you could wear the old one as a watch and it was actually "Nano". This seems more like a bridge in the gap between the iPod Nano and what was the Mini. The iPhone 5 is about as amazing and revolutionary as a wet fart in a pool. The extra $100 for 4 more icons on the homescreen doesn't exactly scream "buy me", but if people want to buy it then it's up to them.

[samsaBEAR]

I think it's time that Apple started changing iOS. They sell millions of devices which is fantastic but they all look the same - You can't personalise them at all. I'm not on about what the actual device looks like, I'm on about what the operating system looks like.
Those blue boxes they use for notifications really make me cringe. They look so ugly.

Also, HTC and Samsung are apparently talking about blocking sales of iPhone 5 over LTE patents they both own (http://androidandme.com/2012/09/smartphones-2/samsung-htc-to-block-us-eu-sales-of-iphone-5-using-lte-patents/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=samsung-htc-to-block-us-eu-sales-of-iphone-5-using-lte-patents). I really hope they win this case and give Apple a taste of their own medicine.

[Casanova]

it seem's like they've done nothing but make it slim and coat their lense in crystal...
truly done nothing innovative or near it. DUAL CORE!?

LTE will be nice, that's it.

[lawrawrrr]

the back design of the iphone 5 is cute, ipod touch colours are cute, earpods are clever in the way they're designed (read like a tech thingy about how clever they are, will try + find it later)...

... however i think i'll continue with my boycott and hand-me-down 3rd gen nano ;)

[samsaBEAR]

Saw this on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/zs46q/maybe_nokia_should_sue_apple/

[Matt]

The new headphones and adapters are surely just a ploy to get more money for their products...

And what gets me is in US you can get one for around $299 (apparently) and yet in Australia the prices will rage between $799 - $1000. Not happy tbh, i reckon i'll go with the 4S considering they will hopefully go down in price or stick with my blackberry.

[Jack!]

I doubt I'll get the iPhone 5, but I do really like the new touches, may buy one of them or the nano, as my HTC is starting to give up the ghost and music is just a big no no, although it could be the rom, meh.

[xxMATTGxx]

By the way if you like the idea of having 4G then you need to be with EE (Everything Everywhere) which is T-Mobile and Orange combined. More information at http://ee.co.uk/.

Wanting 4G on any other network? Wait until 2013 but they will not be compatible with the iPhone 5.

iPhone 5 with 4G or LTE is exclusive to EE.

[HarrySX]

The new headphones and adapters are surely just a ploy to get more money for their products...

And what gets me is in US you can get one for around $299 (apparently) and yet in Australia the prices will rage between $799 - $1000. Not happy tbh, i reckon i'll go with the 4S considering they will hopefully go down in price or stick with my blackberry.

$299 in the US is the cost of the handset (up front) when you sign a 2 year contract. It works out at the same price.

The Aussie prices would be pay as you go.

[Ashley]

The iPhone 5 doesn't seem like anything special, but I upgrade in November so I'll probably be getting one. I'm also with T-Mobile, so hopefully EE's 4G is up and running by then.

The new Nanos, however, are great. I'm very tempted to preorder one tomorrow.

[iBlueBox]

Does anyone know what the tariffs will be for 4G yet on orange/t-moblie?


Also will 4G only be available in the actually cities? Because I live over the mersey and was wondering if I would get a 4G.

[HotelUser]

To conform with the extreme socialism in Europe compared to the lack of government interest in corporate affairs here:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/apple-lightning-to-micro-usb-adapter/

They've made an adapter for their new proprietary connector.

[xxMATTGxx]

To conform with the extreme socialism in Europe compared to the lack of government interest in corporate affairs here:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/apple-lightning-to-micro-usb-adapter/

They've made an adapter for their new proprietary connector.

Disgusting.

[Jutnux]

Why would you commit yourself to buying a product that you don't know anything for sure about and has not even been announced officially by the manufacturer? Seems totally illogical to me.

ERMAGHERD NEW APPHEL PRUDERCT

Edited by efq (Forum Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly

[Mark]

Does anyone know what the tariffs will be for 4G yet on orange/t-moblie?


Also will 4G only be available in the actually cities? Because I live over the mersey and was wondering if I would get a 4G.

Taken from the EE website:

The UK’s biggest 3G network with 4G first in these cities:
Belfast
Birmingham
Bristol
Cardiff
Derby
Edinburgh
Glasgow
Hull
Leeds
Liverpool
London
Manchester
Nottingham
Newcastle
Sheffield
Southampton

[xxMATTGxx]

Does anyone know what the tariffs will be for 4G yet on orange/t-moblie?


Also will 4G only be available in the actually cities? Because I live over the mersey and was wondering if I would get a 4G.

Plans = Coming soon.

Coverage Information

4G will be launching in 16 major UK cities by the end of 2012 which = 33% of the UK. Then in 2013 they will expand that to cover pretty much most of the UK.

[HotelUser]

Disgusting.

Apple isn't misadvertising anything by using their own connector, consumers know they're getting a different connector when they purchase the device, and it's their own decision to purchase the device. I'm not a fan of Apple using their own adapter but it's absolutely no governments' business as to what adapter they choose to put in their product. The thing I find disgusting here is how outrageously controlling this government is being. If the government wants a say in what features Apple includes or doesn't in their products, tell them to buy a 51% stake in it. Otherwise its none of their business.

[xxMATTGxx]

Apple isn't misadvertising anything by using their own connector, consumers know they're getting a different connector when they purchase the device, and it's their own decision to purchase the device. I'm not a fan of Apple using their own adapter but it's absolutely no governments' business as to what adapter they choose to put in their product. The thing I find disgusting here is how outrageously controlling this government is being. If the government wants a say in what features Apple includes or doesn't in their products, tell them to buy a 51% stake in it. Otherwise its none of their business.

You took my bait, oh David. I posted it for a laugh and you did what I expected :P

[Jack!]

You took my bait, oh David. I posted it for a laugh and you did what I expected :P

I think I need my "Dis gon be gud" gif again.

Its good of them to do the Micro USB, helps me out with the 1000's of Micro USB to USB cables I have if I ever lose the Lightning one.

I probably won't buy the iPhone, may get it on upgrade in 4~ months as I am on t-mob, so the LTE will be nice, but I really want one of the nano's more then anything,

[Oleh]

http://mlpfim.co.uk/milkymilky.jpg

[xxMATTGxx]

I think I need my "Dis gon be gud" gif again.

Its good of them to do the Micro USB, helps me out with the 1000's of Micro USB to USB cables I have if I ever lose the Lightning one.

I probably won't buy the iPhone, may get it on upgrade in 4~ months as I am on t-mob, so the LTE will be nice, but I really want one of the nano's more then anything,

Me and David are good, just having a bit of a mess about with him :P

[Jack!]

Me and David are good, just having a bit of a mess about with him :P

I know, but I love reading these HXF "debates" *cough* arguments *cough*
especially these old apple ones.

[lawrawrrr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-FN0fE1KZ8&feature=g-all-f

AHAHAHAHA

IT'S FUNNY COS IT'S TRUE

[peteyt]

People who buy out contracts just to have the latest toy are idiots.

I'll be waiting for the bset android phone when my contract runs out ^^

The fact that people are saying 'omg i want this so bad' etc without even knowing anything about the phone is the most annoying part

Exactly what I was thinking. Haven't been on here the last few days due to work but was looking on my phone (s2) on the BBC News Tec bit for the information on the iPhone 5 and thought it sounded crap. However I knew people would sadly still buy it probably planning to buy it before they had the specs.

People are a sucker for a brand. Apple could release an iMicrowave or something, basically something normal but with their branding on, and the sheeps would come out and buy it.

[Jack!]

Exactly what I was thinking. Haven't been on here the last few days due to work but was looking on my phone (s2) on the BBC News Tec bit for the information on the iPhone 5 and thought it sounded crap. However I knew people would sadly still buy it probably planning to buy it before they had the specs.

People are a sucker for a brand. Apple could release an iMicrowave or something, basically something normal but with their branding on, and the sheeps would come out and buy it.

http://isource.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/iSheep.jpg

Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

[HotelUser]

You took my bait, oh David. I posted it for a laugh and you did what I expected :P

What can I say, I thought you were being stupid, because I'm used to your stupidity ;)


*crappy image*

Exactly what I was thinking. Haven't been on here the last few days due to work but was looking on my phone (s2) on the BBC News Tec bit for the information on the iPhone 5 and thought it sounded crap. However I knew people would sadly still buy it probably planning to buy it before they had the specs.

People are a sucker for a brand. Apple could release an iMicrowave or something, basically something normal but with their branding on, and the sheeps would come out and buy it.

It's decent hardware and decent software with lots of app availability. If you two clowns want to passionately convince me that (for example) The Galaxy line is better go ahead, but I'm still going to think both lines are easily comparable, and consistent for quality.

I could understand you trying to make the argument for BlackBerrys being worse (because the sale statistics, hardware and software statistics are horrendous), but you cannot without ignorance make the same argument as to why the iPhone line is bad. They do have the sales, they do have the hardware, and they most certainly have the software to shut you up and send your argument home.

[xxMATTGxx]

What can I say, I thought you were being stupid, because I'm used to your stupidity ;)




It's decent hardware and decent software with lots of app availability. If you two clowns want to passionately convince me that (for example) The Galaxy line is better go ahead, but I'm still going to think both lines are easily comparable, and consistent for quality.

I could understand you trying to make the argument for BlackBerrys being worse (because the sale statistics, hardware and software statistics are horrendous), but you cannot without ignorance make the same argument as to why the iPhone line is bad. They do have the sales, they do have the hardware, and they most certainly have the software to shut you up and send your argument home.

Says the one who brings up these bloody arguments, gosh -rep. But yeah this announcement wasn't even exciting :(

[Jack!]

What can I say, I thought you were being stupid, because I'm used to your stupidity ;)




It's decent hardware and decent software with lots of app availability. If you two clowns want to passionately convince me that (for example) The Galaxy line is better go ahead, but I'm still going to think both lines are easily comparable, and consistent for quality.

I could understand you trying to make the argument for BlackBerrys being worse (because the sale statistics, hardware and software statistics are horrendous), but you cannot without ignorance make the same argument as to why the iPhone line is bad. They do have the sales, they do have the hardware, and they most certainly have the software to shut you up and send your argument home.

I agree with you completely, they have great hardware, great software to match, and they have one of the best app stores with the largest content, I'm not going to say that android or IOS is better, but, both have pro's and cons, android is open, IOS is not.

But, you have to admit there are thousands of people out there that buy a product, simply for the shiny apple of the back of it, no matter what to cost or what little changes it makes.

[HotelUser]

I agree with you completely, they have great hardware, great software to match, and they have one of the best app stores with the largest content, I'm not going to say that android or IOS is better, but, both have pro's and cons, android is open, IOS is not.

But, you have to admit there are thousands of people out there that buy a product, simply for the shiny apple of the back of it, no matter what to cost or what little changes it makes.

There are some Microsoft software users who only use Microsoft software because it's the first thing that's shoved infront of them, and there's some Apple users who only buy Apple products for no other reason than the Apple brand appealing to them. Both companies hve two things in common in this way, decent products and successful marketing.

[iBlueBox]

Another question!

Is threes network good?

I was going to buy, iPhone 5 from the apple store,

get a sim plan from three.

£15.90 a month for,
-600 minutes
- 5000 texts
- all you can eat data.

[efq]

Another question!

Is threes network good?

I was going to buy, iPhone 5 from the apple store,

get a sim plan from three.

£15.90 a month for,
-600 minutes
- 5000 texts
- all you can eat data.its been amazing for me, i used to be on O2 for years, then I got my 4S and well, I get signal in the middle of nowhere, and not just text/phone calls, I get 3G that even hotspot allows me to use my laptop with!

It's amazing tbh, they really have upgraded around the UK very well.

[peteyt]

What can I say, I thought you were being stupid, because I'm used to your stupidity ;)




It's decent hardware and decent software with lots of app availability. If you two clowns want to passionately convince me that (for example) The Galaxy line is better go ahead, but I'm still going to think both lines are easily comparable, and consistent for quality.

I could understand you trying to make the argument for BlackBerrys being worse (because the sale statistics, hardware and software statistics are horrendous), but you cannot without ignorance make the same argument as to why the iPhone line is bad. They do have the sales, they do have the hardware, and they most certainly have the software to shut you up and send your argument home.

The key word here is but I'm still going to think both lines are easily comparable" - If that is true, then why the hell is apple so much more expensive.

I know people think I hate apple. I don't. I dislike how they put a much larger price on their products however, and people automatically assume because its more expensive it equals a better product. People don't compare details, specs etc. they just buy the expensive model because to them its the top. I mean people as I mentioned where planning already to buy the iPhone 5 before it was even announced.

Also can anyone confirm what the new processor is the equivlent of for other phones. I've read it's only dual core and a few phones now are quad core, not to mention no NFC which a lot of people think is the future.

To me apple has went from a leader to a follower. The iPhone in my opinion could get away at least with me with its expensive prices when it was the only real main smartphone out there but it feels like as the competition has came and fought its way in offering cheaper prices and the same if not better quality, that apple hasn't bothered trying to change. I like IOS and i'd possibly think about buying the iPhone if it was cheaper, but why pay lots of money for something when I can get the same for less.

Finally as I mentioned the reason apple makes a lot of sales is people just buy anything they make. Some obviously will check out the details but a lot don't.

[iBlueBox]

its been amazing for me, i used to be on O2 for years, then I got my 4S and well, I get signal in the middle of nowhere, and not just text/phone calls, I get 3G that even hotspot allows me to use my laptop with!

It's amazing tbh, they really have upgraded around the UK very well.

The thing I'm worried about is getting a signal, because from a few people I've heard that threes signal can be terrible.

[efq]

The thing I'm worried about is getting a signal, because from a few people I've heard that threes signal can be terrible.
It used to be awful, but they have upgraded all across the UK and have like the best signal ever now?

[santa-my-nana]

The thing I'm worried about is getting a signal, because from a few people I've heard that threes signal can be terrible.

I Use three and i've used it up and down the country, never really had a problem, the only time i got no signal was when my phone was playing up in kent nothing to do with the network

[iBlueBox]

I Use three and i've used it up and down the country, never really had a problem, the only time i got no signal was when my phone was playing up in kent nothing to do with the network

I think I might go on three then.

Unless any networks show the prices of the phone on Pay As You Go.

[HotelUser]

The key word here is but I'm still going to think both lines are easily comparable" - If that is true, then why the hell is apple so much more expensive.

I know people think I hate apple. I don't. I dislike how they put a much larger price on their products however, and people automatically assume because its more expensive it equals a better product. People don't compare details, specs etc. they just buy the expensive model because to them its the top. I mean people as I mentioned where planning already to buy the iPhone 5 before it was even announced.

Also can anyone confirm what the new processor is the equivlent of for other phones. I've read it's only dual core and a few phones now are quad core, not to mention no NFC which a lot of people think is the future.

To me apple has went from a leader to a follower. The iPhone in my opinion could get away at least with me with its expensive prices when it was the only real main smartphone out there but it feels like as the competition has came and fought its way in offering cheaper prices and the same if not better quality, that apple hasn't bothered trying to change. I like IOS and i'd possibly think about buying the iPhone if it was cheaper, but why pay lots of money for something when I can get the same for less.

Finally as I mentioned the reason apple makes a lot of sales is people just buy anything they make. Some obviously will check out the details but a lot don't.

Because Apple is more strict with mobile software personally I would say from my own experience (using both Android and iOS since both came out) that I find Android quite flexible but iOS much more stable. I've also yet to find an Android device with battery life that I had on my iPhone 4.

Another thing, my two year old iPhone 4 can run iOS 5 but my Nexus One cannot run ICS (cyan9 was disappointing on it too). An older iPhone plays nicer with updates then Android phones because unfortunately HTC and Samsung gets lazy and doesn't contribute to update their old phones.

These are just some reasons as to why some folks might go iOS over Android. I could easy argue in favor of Android instead because I'm an avid fan of both, but clearly some people will prefer the features of an iOS device, some will prefer Android, and some won't care about any features and just blindly buy any device they think looks pretty or that their friends own (which encompasses blackberry users and the android and iPhone users who just don't care about performance and features vs cosmetics).

[Mr-Trainor]

Another question!

Is threes network good?

I was going to buy, iPhone 5 from the apple store,

get a sim plan from three.

£15.90 a month for,
-600 minutes
- 5000 texts
- all you can eat data.


The thing I'm worried about is getting a signal, because from a few people I've heard that threes signal can be terrible.


I Use three and i've used it up and down the country, never really had a problem, the only time i got no signal was when my phone was playing up in kent nothing to do with the network
When I got my iPhone 4S at the end of last year, I used Three for a month and to be honest, I've never experienced such bad signal! Really wasn't expecting it, and I only went with Three because it was cheaper. I live in London, where I'd expect to have good signal, but didn't get it. I'd get times where I'd have no Internet connection(no 3G connection) and would have 1-2 bars most of the time. However, I switched to O2 and have stayed with them since, much better signal where I am and I still pay the same price each month (I'm on PAYG).

It used to be awful, but they have upgraded all across the UK and have like the best signal ever now?
Was this recent? See above, I was with them at the end of last year when it was terrible for me.

[peteyt]

Because Apple is more strict with mobile software personally I would say from my own experience (using both Android and iOS since both came out) that I find Android quite flexible but iOS much more stable. I've also yet to find an Android device with battery life that I had on my iPhone 4.

Another thing, my two year old iPhone 4 can run iOS 5 but my Nexus One cannot run ICS (cyan9 was disappointing on it too). An older iPhone plays nicer with updates then Android phones because unfortunately HTC and Samsung gets lazy and doesn't contribute to update their old phones.

These are just some reasons as to why some folks might go iOS over Android. I could easy argue in favor of Android instead because I'm an avid fan of both, but clearly some people will prefer the features of an iOS device, some will prefer Android, and some won't care about any features and just blindly buy any device they think looks pretty or that their friends own (which encompasses blackberry users and the android and iPhone users who just don't care about performance and features vs cosmetics).

Yeah it all comes down to personal taste I just dislike the sheeps, which you mentioned, basically those who will buy anything with an apple on it. I'd maybe consider buying an iphone 5 if it was similar price wise to the others on the market, but to me it's certainly not worth the price it's at right now.

[Recursion]

Another question!

Is threes network good?

I was going to buy, iPhone 5 from the apple store,

get a sim plan from three.

£15.90 a month for,
-600 minutes
- 5000 texts
- all you can eat data.

Why wouldn't you go with someone like Everything Everywhere? You won't get 4G on your iPhone 5 unless you're with EE.

[iBlueBox]

Why wouldn't you go with someone like Everything Everywhere? You won't get 4G on your iPhone 5 unless you're with EE.


Because 4G Isn't available everywhere yet.
I'll change sim plan after a year.

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Why wouldn't you go with someone like Everything Everywhere? You won't get 4G on your iPhone 5 unless you're with EE.


Because 4G Isn't available everywhere yet.
I'll change sim plan after a year.

Also price wise at the moment it works out more expensive.

[peteyt]

Because 4G Isn't available everywhere yet.
I'll change sim plan after a year.

Also price wise at the moment it works out more expensive.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if everyone bought an iPhone 5 for the 4g without actually bothering to look up where can get it.

[xxMATTGxx]

Because 4G Isn't available everywhere yet.
I'll change sim plan after a year.

Also price wise at the moment it works out more expensive.


Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if everyone bought an iPhone 5 for the 4g without actually bothering to look up where can get it.

iPhone 5 will only work with one network in the UK for 4G.

[Jack!]

Decided to buy an iphone, been telling everyone that I bought a new iphone, I think everyone thinks its the 5.

3G ftw.

:D