Habbox History

[Barkseh]

Just had a look through Habbox.com for the first time in agessss! Looked at the History and noticed that neither Bi!!y nor Baving were mentioned. How can you mention Adzeh for HabboxLive and not Bi!!y? He took it over and managed to keep the listeners when DJ-3000 *REMOVED* Habbox off and went over to PH.

What about Spectate aswell? When HxHD used to be one of the most popular rooms on Habbo he used to be the Assistant Manager and was never out of the Help Desk!

When I think of Habbox in the past I think:

Mizki, JRH, JackHB, Seacat, Bi!!y, Spectate ect...

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't avoid the filter, thanks!

[MKR&*42]

Just had a look through Habbox.com for the first time in agessss! Looked at the History and noticed that neither Bi!!y nor Baving were mentioned. How can you mention Adzeh for HabboxLive and not Bi!!y? He took it over and managed to keep the listeners when DJ-3000 f'd Habbox off and went over to PH.

What about Spectate aswell? When HxHD used to be one of the most popular rooms on Habbo he used to be the Assistant Manager and was never out of the Help Desk!

When I think of Habbox in the past I think:

Mizki, JRH, JackHB, Seacat, Bi!!y, Spectate ect...

V7 stuff

LOL. It's all being updated in V7, I'm not sure who's actually dealing with that page/something similar to that page, but I'm sure one of the content designers has ensured all the important people are going in there :) You won't see the update till V7 gets released xD.

[Samantha]

All Habbox History and such are being recreated and updated for v7.

I know on the refurbished Hall Of Fame those who were on before (minus one) plus all the merits will be present on it (plus some from opinions and such). However, I missed 5 years of Habbox thus wouldn't know everything that occurred, if you wanted to PM me with some names who you feel deserve it then please do as there's always room for more.

I know this isn't really about the HOF but that's some what a part of the history section on the site :).

[Grig]

All Habbox History and such are being recreated and updated for v7.

I know on the refurbished Hall Of Fame those who were on before (minus one) plus all the merits will be present on it (plus some from opinions and such). However, I missed 5 years of Habbox thus wouldn't know everything that occurred, if you wanted to PM me with some names who you feel deserve it then please do as there's always room for more.

I know this isn't really about the HOF but that's some what a part of the history section on the site :).

how come mertis go on HOF. They may have worked there for a year, but that doesn't mean they should qualify to HOF. HOF always has been and should be something really sprecial :).

[Samantha]

how come mertis go on HOF. They may have worked there for a year, but that doesn't mean they should qualify to HOF. HOF always has been and should be something really sprecial :).

Most of the merits admittedly were on the HOF anyway but that's what I got told should be on :3.

[GoldenMerc]

HOF shouldn't be merit looool

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[Grig]

yeh like Ross, said one shouldn't be equivilant with the other. I can sit here, get through a whole year doing a mediocre job and get it. Now that won't make sense.

[FlyingJesus]

I have no idea whether I'm featured on the Hall of Fame at the moment but if I am it ought to be because I'm a deific creature possessed of great logic and beauty whom all adore, not just because I have this pretty little badge in my userbit. Putting ALL merit holders on HoF doesn't strike me as a good idea, it ought to be for a select few big names in my view

[GoldenMerc]

Not sure why most of the people are in there, a few got fired from their high jobs, one of them is permanently banned and admitted to leaking the Habbox Database while being able to get onto modcp...

[Samantha]

I got told to do it I didn't know half of them om merit, due to that and due to the people I asked billy wouldn't be on it if he wasn't a merit as I can't judge on something years ago. However I remember looking at manager pages, baving and spectate DiD strike me out as important parts of habbox.

[GoldenMerc]

Mizki - Yes she started the site but pretty unsure what she's done since then? Never the less is she HOF worthy?

DJ-3000 - Owned a very popular HxHD, Reading this;
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=759924&p=7691617#post7691617

Why is he there?

Why are all the Ex AGM's just been plotted on there? Half of them did nothing once they got to that place?

Unsure why ,Jess, is there, when she was active she was a GOOD manager, but not HOF worthy, then she got fired...

Pretty unsure why Hecktix is there also, He got fired for messing about recently, never the less he's never even been a decent manager, more or less just power crazy

[MissAlice]

Just had a look through Habbox.com for the first time in agessss! Looked at the History and noticed that neither Bi!!y nor Baving were mentioned. How can you mention Adzeh for HabboxLive and not Bi!!y? He took it over and managed to keep the listeners when DJ-3000 f'd Habbox off and went over to PH.

What about Spectate aswell? When HxHD used to be one of the most popular rooms on Habbo he used to be the Assistant Manager and was never out of the Help Desk!

When I think of Habbox in the past I think:

Mizki, JRH, JackHB, Seacat, Bi!!y, Spectate ect...


Bi!!y
When I see the name Bi!!y get a mention, I instantly think of HabboxTV (HabPics?) and the very important part he played in picking up the pieces when a high number of radio staff abandoned HabboxRadio. Bi!!y was the first manager of HxL and without his input, perhaps HxL wouldn’t exist as it does today.

[Samantha]

Bi!!y
When I see the name Bi!!y get a mention, I instantly think of HabboxTV (HabPics?) and the very important part he played in picking up the pieces when a high number of radio staff abandoned HabboxRadio. Bi!!y was the first manager of HxL and without his input, perhaps HxL wouldn’t exist as it does today.

Oo I guessed what he did, his signatue was about the radio do i assumed he worked on it, as i don't think searching forums works with the !! In it.

[lawrawrrr]

I haven't done it yet, but I said I'd look through all the Habbox Announcements (managerial changes that is) and make sure they're all on there, with the right dates. I'm away at the moment with no internet but it's first on my list to do when I get back. It's all being updated much better than it is currently with V6, so don't worry.

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as for HOF/Merit, they shouldn't be the same. HOF should literally be for people who give a great contribution (inc. hxosa imo), rather than lazy people who stay in a management role for a year in order to get this 'recognition'/power without doing much, which is the case for some people. Could do with an overhaul imo. Merits could have their own Hall?

So Hall of Fame and Hall of Merits (fame > merits > normal people)

[GoldenMerc]

dont really see why merits need their own hall, if they get their own hall so should gods

[Samantha]

Don't think hxosa should get it at all, I know two out of three of them were given on their activity through a month and it wasn't a continuous thing. Unless I'm on about the other one, which we cant check due to it being disabled.

I'm only going off what xxMATTGxx; said but when I asked for help I hardly got any so a whole lot of good that did. You need to consider that some are on their who did a lot in their first spat i.e. jess, I mean nvrspk4 wasn't even on before i started and imo he is one of the most worthy, he created hxss, owned the help desk was a gm the list goes on.

[xxMATTGxx]

Don't think hxosa should get it at all, I know two out of three of them were given on their activity through a month and it wasn't a continuous thing.

I'm only going off what xxMATTGxx; said but when I asked for help I hardly got any so a whole lot of good that did. You need to consider that some are on their who did a lot in their first spat i.e. jess, I mean nvrspk4 wasn't even on before i started and imo he is one of the most worthy, he created hxss, owned the help desk was a gm the list goes on.

That's because the search function on the forum is a lot more credible then anything I can remember or not at all. Nvrspk4 should have been on the list from the start but Zuth never added him when I brought it up.

[Samantha]

That's because the search function on the forum is a lot more credible then anything I can remember or not at all. Nvrspk4 should have been on the list from the start but Zuth never added him when I brought it up.

no it's not, I can't search some of the names on the merit list due to things called name changes and the fact you can't search some punctuation. The awards system is better as it tells you who has the award.

[xxMATTGxx]

no it's not, I can't search some of the names on the merit list due to things called name changes and the fact you can't search some punctuation. The awards system is better as it tells you who has the award.

Blame the users for having that or blame the guys over at https://www.vbulletin.com/. The awards system is disabled due to an exploit that hasn't been fixed by the developers.

[Samantha]

Blame the users for having that or blame the guys over at https://www.vbulletin.com/. The awards system is disabled due to an exploit hasn't been fixed by the developers.

I remember looking at management pages too and couldnt find him, least it should be improved in v7.

[GoldenMerc]

Don't expect awards system to be fixed for 6weeks+ the dev is useless.

[xxMATTGxx]

Don't expect awards system to be fixed for 6weeks+ the dev is useless.

Always seems to be the case :(

[GoldenMerc]

Always seems to be the case :(

They don't get paid which is fair enough, I remember vBCredits / vBPlaza dev saying from donations he got over £25,000 per year. thats pretty amazing tho

[xxMATTGxx]

They don't get paid which is fair enough, I remember vBCredits / vBPlaza dev saying from donations he got over £25,000 per year. thats pretty amazing tho

True true. Could be worse though like some other plugins - Anyway sorry kinda gone off-topic. In terms of the error when you search for Bi!!y - Toms going to look at that later on.

[lawrawrrr]

dont really see why merits need their own hall, if they get their own hall so should gods
you just want everything dont you ://// merits have given a lot of time to habbox (obviously, over a year) so there shouldn't be any form of recgnition?


Don't think hxosa should get it at all, I know two out of three of them were given on their activity through a month and it wasn't a continuous thing. Unless I'm on about the other one, which we cant check due to it being disabled.
all 3 of them were given for doing hours in the hxhd or events. (not fair but don't even get me started ok). But they are staf who deserve recognition cos otherwise it's just the award on the forum (which isn't even working) and it's pretty hard to find out exactly WHO has the award. Should be something a bit bigger imo.

[The Don]

you just want everything dont you ://// merits have given a lot of time to habbox (obviously, over a year) so there shouldn't be any form of recgnition?

if that's your argument surely any active users who have achieved anniversary vip should have their own section as they have obviously given a lot of time to habbox (over 5 years)

I dont really think merits should be included in the hof, the criteria for hof should be way harder to achieve than it is to get a merit badge

[FlyingJesus]

The recognition for merit badge obtainees is the merit badge

[Alex3213]

The recognition for merit badge obtainees is the merit badge

I agree. I don't think that there needs to be any more recognition for people in the Merit group. I would think that the HoF should be a selective few, not a couple of dozen. :P

[Inseriousity.]

Hall of Fame's always been a bit of a tricky one. I think to get on the Hall of Fame, the staff members involved need to be able to write a paragraph on their accomplishments that helped change Habbox for the better. Doing your job is not worthy of being on the Hall of Fame, which is why I've always scoffed at the idea of AGMs automatically warranting a place. While they have a lot of dedication to get up to that role, they don't necessarily do anything extraordinary to warrant a place on the HoF unless of course their position on the HoF is not for their AGM role but on the work they did beforehand that helped them get there.

Tbf it's a tough job. Staff involved with the HoF really need to do their homework and dig deep into Habbox history and even then there'll be conflicting opinions on whether x's contribution deserves them a place on the HoF as extraordinary means different things for different people. There is also the fact that most people won't have seen the work they did behind the scenes that could earn them a place.

[Samantha]

Looks like I'll be rewriting it all again.

[Barkseh]

Wow I totally forgot about HabboxTV. That isn't half back in the day.


Bi!!y
When I see the name Bi!!y get a mention, I instantly think of HabboxTV (HabPics?) and the very important part he played in picking up the pieces when a high number of radio staff abandoned HabboxRadio. Bi!!y was the first manager of HxL and without his input, perhaps HxL wouldn’t exist as it does today.

[wixard]

just pointing out the reason dj-3000 had the strop and left habbox was because he said the word suck on the forum and got in trouble for it or something, can't remember exactly what. he did not like being questioned/punished at all and had a hissy fit

he was only a kid

[Barkseh]

I didn't become staff until after he left. From what I've heard thought, he used to love himself.


just pointing out the reason dj-3000 had the strop and left habbox was because he said the word suck on the forum and got in trouble for it or something, can't remember exactly what. he did not like being questioned/punished at all and had a hissy fit

he was only a kid

[wixard]

I didn't become staff until after he left. From what I've heard thought, he used to love himself.

i knew him when i was 13/14 and he was only a year or two older. i'm almost 21 now.
he was just like any other member on this forum, only with an inflated ego. when he owned the desk he'd remove people off the ban list that his staff had banned, just because they'd ask and he wanted to be considered cool by the EREBELS
and the PH opening was really obnoxious

[Barkseh]

Although he did kind of beat Habbox, when he moved. This Help Desk was a major success as was his site. HxHD has never been the same since he left.


i knew him when i was 13/14 and he was only a year or two older. i'm almost 21 now.
he was just like any other member on this forum, only with an inflated ego. when he owned the desk he'd remove people off the ban list that his staff had banned, just because they'd ask and he wanted to be considered cool by the EREBELS
and the PH opening was really obnoxious

[wixard]

Although he did kind of beat Habbox, when he moved. This Help Desk was a major success as was his site. HxHD has never been the same since he left.

yeah, when spectate took over were you around? it was literally dead
but that's because PH and mystique!'s help desk linked together and loads of the staff went to PH

then i quit so i've no idea what happened from there on.
helpdesks just suck in general now, needs to be turned into a lounge

[Barkseh]

Yeah Spectate had hardly any furni if I remember correctly and it looked a bit crap. Eckuii tuck over next didn't he?


yeah, when spectate took over were you around? it was literally dead
but that's because PH and mystique!'s help desk linked together and loads of the staff went to PH

then i quit so i've no idea what happened from there on.
helpdesks just suck in general now, needs to be turned into a lounge

[lawrawrrr]

Hall of Fame's always been a bit of a tricky one. I think to get on the Hall of Fame, the staff members involved need to be able to write a paragraph on their accomplishments that helped change Habbox for the better. Doing your job is not worthy of being on the Hall of Fame, which is why I've always scoffed at the idea of AGMs automatically warranting a place. While they have a lot of dedication to get up to that role, they don't necessarily do anything extraordinary to warrant a place on the HoF unless of course their position on the HoF is not for their AGM role but on the work they did beforehand that helped them get there.

Tbf it's a tough job. Staff involved with the HoF really need to do their homework and dig deep into Habbox history and even then there'll be conflicting opinions on whether x's contribution deserves them a place on the HoF as extraordinary means different things for different people. There is also the fact that most people won't have seen the work they did behind the scenes that could earn them a place.

what about normal managers who do more than the expected, like MUCH MORE, can they nominate themselves??

[GoldenMerc]

what about normal managers who do more than the expected, like MUCH MORE, can they nominate themselves??

May aswel, on our current hof we have permently banned members lol

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[Samantha]

what about normal managers who do more than the expected, like MUCH MORE, can they nominate themselves??

Thanks for describing me <3. Nah I joke, I'm going through all the names asap to ensure it's more elite.

[Inseriousity.]

what about normal managers who do more than the expected, like MUCH MORE, can they nominate themselves??

Lol I think if anyone has to nominate themself then no. That'd be like posting your own 'CONGRATS TO ME' threads that some managers mentioning no names Samanfa; like to do. However, normal managers who do extraordinary things would be above the AGMs who don't do anything that extraordinary at all imo.

[Samantha]

Lol I think if anyone has to nominate themself then no. That'd be like posting your own 'CONGRATS TO ME' threads that some managers mentioning no names Samanfa; like to do. However, normal managers who do extraordinary things would be above the AGMs who don't do anything that extraordinary at all imo.

Excuse me I only once made my own birthday thread :'(.

[The Don]

please dont have a watered down hall of fame with people like hecktix in it, I really think it should be hard to get into. Maybe a public vote on the names you've got so far?

[GoldenMerc]

Not going to lie but ,Jess, is init yet Barkseh / Paul isn't ? Paul pretty much made HxL what it is today

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[The Don]

Jess should not be in the hall of fame.

[Barkseh]

I don't think they'd put either me or bath tub (Baving) on it as we were "e-rebels" and thought we were mint aha. Bi!!ly mad it what it was. Angel-Light too. Thanks though mate :)


Not going to lie but ,Jess, is init yet Barkseh / Paul isn't ? Paul pretty much made HxL what it is today

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[Samantha]

I don't think they'd put either me or bath tub (Baving) on it as we were "e-rebels" and thought we were mint aha. Bi!!ly mad it what it was. Angel-Light too. Thanks though mate :)

I can see I'll be changing it again lmao.

[David]

agree with akeam

[Grig]

Jess should not be in the hall of fame.

Jess should be in the hall of fame. She did loads at HxL and was the face of it for nearly 5 years. Yes, it was dwindling at the end of her tenure, but that doesn't mean that she didn't do a good job.

Barkseh, as much as he's a cool guy, he became Hx enemy number one for a short period from what I can remember after e-rebelling, so I doubt he'd get put on there.

[David]

shouldnt be in it if you got fired, jess was fired

[GoldenMerc]

Jess got fired, she didn't do work for 6months + yet it took that long to fire her, :/

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[David]

Jess got fired, she didn't do work for 6months + yet it took that long to fire her, :/

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heard it was mykes fault she didnt get the sack for that long

[Empired]

Jess got fired, she didn't do work for 6months + yet it took that long to fire her, :/

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To be honest, her not getting fired for six months wasn't her fault. Somebody else's incompetence, not hers.
Agree she shouldn't really be in HoF though

[GoldenMerc]

heard it was mykes fault she didnt get the sack for that long
matt + myke prob

To be honest, her not getting fired for six months wasn't her fault. Somebody else's incompetence, not hers.
Agree she shouldn't really be in HoF though

if shes in hof i should be 2

[Inseriousity.]

6 months is a stupid exaggeration. She posted away and after the three weeks that everyone's entitled to was up with no sign of her return, she was fired. She was continuing to do work up to then (god knows what happened to her tbh!) and I'd even talked to her before she posted away about a few ideas she had. She was a great asset to HxL and her place on the HoF rightly deserved imo.

[Samantha]

6 months is a stupid exaggeration. She posted away and after the three weeks that everyone's entitled to was up with no sign of her return, she was fired. She was continuing to do work up to then (god knows what happened to her tbh!) and I'd even talked to her before she posted away about a few ideas she had. She was a great asset to HxL and her place on the HoF rightly deserved imo.

I remember she hadn't been on in well over a week, she came online, posted an announcement. A few days later she posted away and didn't return to the forum - fired.

[xxMATTGxx]

Fair enough if she was fired for something serious or something but activity wise shouldn't stop a member from being added to the HOF. Before she disappeared and didn't come back she did do a lot of work for the department.

[nvrspk4]

Who's taking care of it now? I'll send a list of people they're missing.

[xxMATTGxx]

Who's taking care of it now? I'll send a list of people they're missing.

The HOF? Samanfa; by the looks of it.

[Samantha]

Yeah nvrspk4; drop me a pm. Since were updating Habbox Site again I'll put the new list on then get more views it has change a lot ok.

[Samantha]

http://habbox.com/#!/HallOfFame

Updated it, work in progress, I don't mind if you agree or disagree with any - please tell me. Also when I wrote this I couldn't really think of much more to say about the final few (as I missed the first five years of Habbox) ok ty.

[Grig]

http://habbox.com/#!/HallOfFame

Updated it, work in progress, I don't mind if you agree or disagree with any - please tell me. Also when I wrote this I couldn't really think of much more to say about the final few (as I missed the first five years of Habbox) ok ty.

Wait why is Jess not there?! But people like Alkaz, Danube and Undertaker are. They never did anything special, no offence.

I think general management should manage it as it's too contentious. I could go back as a content designer, ask for that page and add people who I think should be there. It simply isn't right.
xxMATTGxx;

[David]

Wait why is Jess not there?! But people like Alkaz, Danube and Undertaker are. They never did anything special, no offence.

I think general management should manage it as it's too contentious. I could go back as a content designer, ask for that page and add people who I think should be there. It simply isn't right.
@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020);

you could apply that reason to any page, dont be silly. that's what content writers are for

[Alex3213]

Wait why is Jess not there?! But people like Alkaz, Danube and Undertaker are. They never did anything special, no offence.

I think general management should manage it as it's too contentious. I could go back as a content designer, ask for that page and add people who I think should be there. It simply isn't right.
@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020);

I am in agreement, Alkaz and Danube should not be there. Sorry!

...and infact I am in agreement with that too, I would prefer if a content designer did not take hold of the page, as I don't think it's fair. I remember I was meant to manage the page when I was a content designer and within a couple of days I thought "hang on, I shouldn't be doing this" as it shouldn't really be that department's responsibility, I don't think. :)

However notice I did not talk about GM there because I think it really should be the forum's decision as a group as opposed to a few people giving their ideas. I know that is trying to be the case but sometimes I think that own opinions can get in the way.

[Grig]

you could apply that reason to any page, dont be silly. that's what content writers are for

Not really. Can't apply that to departments or Habbo. Don't see any logic in this argument.

[David]

Not really. Can't apply that to departments or Habbo. Don't see any logic in this argument.

no? if I managed those pages I couldn't change manager dates and add people who shouldn't be there? this simply isn't right, GM should be the only ones changing those pages.

[Grig]

no? if I managed those pages I couldn't change manager dates and add people who shouldn't be there? this simply isn't right, GM should be the only ones changing those pages.

Oh God...

You cannot deceive such pages because managers were there and you would get in major trouble, but you can easily use your discretion for the HOF.

[FlyingJesus]

Who the hell is Spectate

[Chippiewill]

I think general management should manage it as it's too contentious.
The page is going to be written subjectively regardless of who manages it, Matt is no more qualified to write it than Samanfa is and only marginally more qualified to determine who should be on it.

Matt has more important things to do than write a list which people will have issues with regardless.

[Grig]

The page is going to be written subjectively regardless of who manages it, Matt is no more qualified to write it than Samanfa is and only marginally more qualified to determine who should be on it.

Matt has more important things to do than write a list which people will have issues with regardless.

Then get a consensus like Alex said. Why does she get to determine the best of the best at Habbox?

[FlyingJesus]

Why does she get to determine the best of the best at Habbox?

Because it's her job. While I don't agree with everything on the list she does have to actually look into these people before putting them on there, it's not just a page of her favourite ex-staffers

[lawrawrrr]

Multiple times in this thread she's asked for suggestions, and multiple times you've all ignored her. Therefore you have no right to criticise her.

Content designers are responsible for all the written content - she was going on the guidelines of the last page and the input of both management and other content designers.

Besides, general management have better things to do. They put in a few ideas and suggestions, and I'm sure if they disagree with someone on there they'll ask Sam to remove the person in question.

It's hardly like she's written about all her favourite ex-staff members, she spent a long time looking through old threads and finding information on staff members before she even joined.

[Mr-Trainor]

Wait why is Jess not there?! But people like Alkaz, Danube and Undertaker are. They never did anything special, no offence.

I think general management should manage it as it's too contentious. I could go back as a content designer, ask for that page and add people who I think should be there. It simply isn't right.
@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020);
I don't know about Alkaz/Undertaker, but I personally feel that Danube should remain in the hall of fame for his commitment to the rare values department, in particular the second time he was manager and from what I can remember he was involved with coming up with a lot of the ideas for the new rare values system that was being made, and he did an incredible amount of work in preparing it for release. I also believe that he really turned the department around when he returned, and has been one of the best managers the rare values department has had. That's just my opinion, anyway :P.

[Chippiewill]

Then get a consensus like Alex said. Why does she get to determine the best of the best at Habbox?
She doesn't, she's been accepting people's input the entire time.

[Samantha]

I agree with Laura really, I told you I missed years of Habbox, I get told people will help me and really only one has. Yeah others gave me names, nothing else. I think you need to consider a fair bit, give constructivr criticism or dont give it at all, surely if youre just going to say wrong, wrong, wrong give me something to go on.

[Grig]

Multiple times in this thread she's asked for suggestions, and multiple times you've all ignored her. Therefore you have no right to criticise her.

Content designers are responsible for all the written content - she was going on the guidelines of the last page and the input of both management and other content designers.

Besides, general management have better things to do. They put in a few ideas and suggestions, and I'm sure if they disagree with someone on there they'll ask Sam to remove the person in question.

It's hardly like she's written about all her favourite ex-staff members, she spent a long time looking through old threads and finding information on staff members before she even joined.

Yeh and surely I could read her mind of who was already included in there :S.

I'm not denying she's spent a long time on it, I'm simply saying it's difficult considering she's indeed missed years of Habbox.

And to say I didn't give my opinion is utterly invalid, I did mention Jess should be in there quite a few pages ago within this thread. This is "constructive criticism". It used to be the agm would do it btw, I remember Garion doing it rather than a content designer.

[Samantha]

Yeh and surely I could read her mind of who was already included in there :S.

I'm not denying she's spent a long time on it, I'm simply saying it's difficult considering she's indeed missed years of Habbox.

And to say I didn't give my opinion is utterly invalid, I did mention Jess should be in there quite a few pages ago within this thread. This is "constructive criticism". It used to be the agm would do it btw, I remember Garion doing it rather than a content designer.

She did work in the Habbox Live department, she got dismissed after being inactive. I can't say anything else about her, I never experienced what she was like in the department, I was told if I couldn't think of enough then to remove them. You didn't need to know who was on the list, regardless of if I had them or not you could have said who and why.

[lawrawrrr]

Yeh and surely I could read her mind of who was already included in there :S.

I'm not denying she's spent a long time on it, I'm simply saying it's difficult considering she's indeed missed years of Habbox.

And to say I didn't give my opinion is utterly invalid, I did mention Jess should be in there quite a few pages ago within this thread. This is "constructive criticism". It used to be the agm would do it btw, I remember Garion doing it rather than a content designer.

What?

I didn't say this anyway, I said you're (not specifically you but everyone criticizing her) not being fair on her. She simply WASN'T here for most of Habbox and when she asked for help you've all literally ignored her. You can't say YOU MISSED TONS when you're not offering to help!!!! It's physically impossible for her to write a decent paragraph on people who were long gone before she was even here.

Yes you said Jess shouldn't be there but other people said she should - and the AGMs (and other content designers) agreed that she should. She gave a hell of a lot of time to Habbox, and shouldn't be judged on the way she left. There's no point longing for the days of Garion doing it because 1) he's not here 2) there's only 3 AGMs, not the 4 there used to be. (Okay fair enough I don't know how many agms there were when Garion was doing it but the point still stands - the 3 M's are busy and have better things to do).

Why would an AGM writing it make it any better by the way? Matt's been here the longest but his spag isn't the best, and the others have better things to do. Like I said, they've all had input into who's on the list.

[The Don]

I'm not sure why you're arguing then since he wants Jess to be in it, not removed from it...


What?

I didn't say this anyway, I said you're (not specifically you but everyone criticizing her) not being fair on her. She simply WASN'T here for most of Habbox and when she asked for help you've all literally ignored her. You can't say YOU MISSED TONS when you're not offering to help!!!! It's physically impossible for her to write a decent paragraph on people who were long gone before she was even here.

Yes you said Jess shouldn't be there but other people said she should - and the AGMs (and other content designers) agreed that she should. She gave a hell of a lot of time to Habbox, and shouldn't be judged on the way she left. There's no point longing for the days of Garion doing it because 1) he's not here 2) there's only 3 AGMs, not the 4 there used to be. (Okay fair enough I don't know how many agms there were when Garion was doing it but the point still stands - the 3 M's are busy and have better things to do).

Why would an AGM writing it make it any better by the way? Matt's been here the longest but his spag isn't the best, and the others have better things to do. Like I said, they've all had input into who's on the list.

[lawrawrrr]

I'm not sure why you're arguing then since he wants Jess to be in it, not removed from it...

I misread that. I'm extremely tired but yeah I said I wasn't aiming it at him, rather everyone who is disagreeing with Sam.

(besides lots of people have said Jess shouldn't be in it)

[The Don]

Aha, just checking :L
I personally don't think she should be in it, not based on how she left... I don't think holding the title of manager for a few years should automatically get you a spot on it but based on what the person did and how much of an impact they had and besides managing hxl I can't really think of her doing anything outstanding...


I misread that. I'm extremely tired but yeah I said I wasn't aiming it at him, rather everyone who is disagreeing with Sam.

(besides lots of people have said Jess shouldn't be in it)

[lawrawrrr]

Aha, just checking :L
I personally don't think she should be in it, not based on how she left... I don't think holding the title of manager for a few years should automatically get you a spot on it but based on what the person did and how much of an impact they had and besides managing hxl I can't really think of her doing anything outstanding...

Sticking out for that long has kind of got to count for something - she can't have been that bad a manager and made Habbox what it was today. Without her there's no doubt it would be shut today (probably shut after Gems, got fired)

[The Don]

There's really no way to tell how hxl would be now if Jess hadn't managed it. If you think managers who have worked here for a while automatically deserve a place in it, then it's not a hall of fame, it's more a timeline dedicated to past managers etc which isn't what I would call a 'hall of fame' whereby you should have done something more than "not being that bad of a manger" to get a spot


Sticking out for that long has kind of got to count for something - she can't have been that bad a manager and made Habbox what it was today. Without her there's no doubt it would be shut today (probably shut after Gems, got fired)

[Andii]

Agreed tbh, yea jess has been in the department for years, but so has a few others, and sure she ended up making a mess of it and someone had to fix it all up, she should be taken off.

[lawrawrrr]

There's really no way to tell how hxl would be now if Jess hadn't managed it. If you think managers who have worked here for a while automatically deserve a place in it, then it's not a hall of fame, it's more a timeline dedicated to past managers etc which isn't what I would call a 'hall of fame' whereby you should have done something more than "not being that bad of a manger" to get a spot

It was for 5 years (with a small break), that's something outstanding IMO. And for the majority of it she was a great manager - enough for the AGMs to ask her back to manage after someone else resigned - despite her not being a DJ at the time. I don't agree with all the past managers being on there at all, but Jess, having given so much time and dedication to Habbox, does deserve a place. Anyone who's been at Habbox management for a considerable amount of time (not like it used to be, after 1 year, but more than that) I think deserves to be on the list.

Having said that, long-standing managers might not be necessarily good; but that's a fault on the AGMs part, not being able to identify faults and fire managers who aren't doing the best job.

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Agreed tbh, yea jess has been in the department for years, but so has a few others, and sure she ended up making a mess of it and someone had to fix it all up, she should be taken off.

She didn't make a mess of it though. She simply posted away for quite a while and got a life. The department was going downhill, and it only became obvious after she left (which afterwards, left to Logan's firing - just saying).

[The Don]

Anyone who's been at Habbox management for a considerable amount of time (not like it used to be, after 1 year, but more than that) I think deserves to be on the list.

Then it's not a hall of fame but rather a collection of past managers...

[lawrawrrr]

Then it's not a hall of fame but rather a collection of past managers...

No, it's a hall of fame. I explicitly said that all past managers should NOT be on there. People who have given a LONG time to Habbox deserve recognition; as well as those who bring great ideas. I believe Jess did both of these things; as do a lot of other people.

[Alex3213]

Then it's not a hall of fame but rather a collection of past managers...
laura; I think she was referring to around over 2 years and I think generally that shows a sign of dedication and commitment towards the department they were managing.

[dbgtz]

Just gonna put something somewhat unrelated and I have no clue if this has been mentioned, but the last sentence on Hecktix seems a bit silly to include and would be more to do with infamy.


Hecktix returned for a brief while as Help Desk Manager but was fired just days after.

[Samantha]

Just gonna put something somewhat unrelated and I have no clue if this has been mentioned, but the last sentence on Hecktix seems a bit silly to include and would be more to do with infamy.

I thought I'd removed that as I wouldn't say fired :O.

[shikari]

whether you liked her or not jess legitimately deserves her place in the hall of fame for the effort she put into habboxlive over the years and how she kept the department together.

[The Don]

Your argument is wishy washy, for some reason you are under the belief that time spent = outstanding contribution, which it isn't. A hall of fame is to honour those with noteworthy achievement. Running HabboxLive isn't in my books a noteworthy achievement, it isn't as if she managed to turn hxl around and make it immensely popular, if anything it did nothing but decline during her tenure and then she just disappeared which is hardly a great feat. It's nice that you think anyone who gives a couple of years of their time automatically deserves a spot but if that's the case then it shouldn't be called a hall of fame because that isn't what they consist of.


No, it's a hall of fame. I explicitly said that all past managers should NOT be on there. People who have given a LONG time to Habbox deserve recognition; as well as those who bring great ideas. I believe Jess did both of these things; as do a lot of other people.

[lawrawrrr]

whether you liked her or not jess legitimately deserves her place in the hall of fame for the effort she put into habboxlive over the years and how she kept the department together.

100% agree here. A lot of the arguments against her are about the end (where she was legit away) or for personal reasons.

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Your argument is wishy washy, for some reason you are under the belief that time spent = outstanding contribution, which it isn't. A hall of fame is to honour those with noteworthy achievement. Running HabboxLive isn't in my books a noteworthy achievement, it isn't as if she managed to turn hxl around and make it immensely popular, if anything it did nothing but decline during her tenure and then she just disappeared which is hardly a great feat. It's nice that you think anyone who gives a couple of years of their time automatically deserves a spot but if that's the case then it should be called a hall of fame because that isn't what they consist of.


Um... no.

I said a Hall of Fame is kinda there for 2 types of people

1) those who give a lot of time and dedication to Habbox
2) those who give an outstanding contribution

I NEVER SAID THEY'RE THE SAME THING.

[shikari]

Your argument is wishy washy, for some reason you are under the belief that time spent = outstanding contribution, which it isn't. A hall of fame is to honour those with noteworthy achievement. Running HabboxLive isn't in my books a noteworthy achievement, it isn't as if she managed to turn hxl around and make it immensely popular, if anything it did nothing but decline during her tenure and then she just disappeared which is hardly a great feat. It's nice that you think anyone who gives a couple of years of their time automatically deserves a spot but if that's the case then it shouldn't be called a hall of fame because that isn't what they consist of.

hi akeam, you're a babe but i disagree.
she did a lot of work over the five years she was there, most of it between the 2007-2010 period.

[The Don]

100% agree here. A lot of the arguments against her are about the end (where she was legit away) or for personal reasons.

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Um... no.

I said a Hall of Fame is kinda there for 2 types of people

1) those who give a lot of time and dedication to Habbox
2) those who give an outstanding contribution

I NEVER SAID THEY'RE THE SAME THING.

And I'm saying 'giving a lot of time' isn't a good reason... If she did something to make hxl popular then fair enough but to my understanding that isn't the case

[Samantha]

hi akeam, you're a babe but i disagree.
she did a lot of work over the five years she was there, most of it between the 2007-2010 period.

See this is why I needed some help to get all information as I only joined in 2009 and then didn't properly become active until the end of that year.

[lawrawrrr]

And I'm saying 'giving a lot of time' isn't a good reason... If she did something to make hxl popular then fair enough but to my understanding that isn't the case

Five years of dedication. That's a hell of a long time. And deserves a mention.

To your understanding? So you don't know for definite? The people who were both management and DJs at the time said she deserves the place, so who are you to disagree? There doesn't seem to be that many people disagreeing with you.

Besides she did make HxL popular, it declined as many fansites did - with the decline of Habbo but it was still pretty popular a lot of the time, nything apart from towards the end of her mangement.

[Inseriousity.]

Chippiewill is right. It doesn't matter who writes the page, people have different standards as to who should be on there and more importantly why. There is never going to be a Hall of Fame that'll please everyone and anyone who tries is never going to finish it. I, for example, would put Jess on there. Regardless of her exit, she was the creative driving force behind many of the ideas that have stood the test of time. Not everyone will agree with that and I wouldn't expect them to but it does highlight the difficult job involved in creating a Hall of Fame and trying to establish fixed criteria is never going to satisfy anyone.

If it was up to me, I'd just scrap the whole thing. People's contributions to Habbox are recognised in the structures and ideas that they helped establish not whether their name is on a list. Now that we have a Habbox Wiki where you can search for practically anyone, working on getting detailed histories of people's high and low points might be a more interesting read anyway.

[The Don]

To your understanding? So you don't know for definite?


wow, get a grip


No, it's a hall of fame. I explicitly said that all past managers should NOT be on there. People who have given a LONG time to Habbox deserve recognition; as well as those who bring great ideas. I believe Jess did both of these things; as do a lot of other people.



Five years of dedication. That's a hell of a long time. And deserves a mention.

Besides she did make HxL popular, it declined as many fansites did - with the decline of Habbo but it was still pretty popular a lot of the time, nything apart from towards the end of her mangement.

Your entire argument rests on "BUT SHES BEEN HERE FOR 5 YEARS" which isn't anything incredible, quite a few people have been here for over 5 years.

shikari;

Hiya bethie (i hope you're bethie lol), I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes but from a regular members perspective, it appears she didn't do much other than stay here for a long time. If she did do something innovative then fair enough, but I can't recall her doing anything any other manager hasn't done except for staying here for a bit longer.

[lawrawrrr]

wow, get a grip

Your entire argument rests on "BUT SHES BEEN HERE FOR 5 YEARS" which isn't anything incredible, quite a few people have been here for over 5 years.

@shikari (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=109433);

Hiya bethie, I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes but from a regular members perspective, it appears she didn't do much other than stay here for a long time. If she did do something innovative then fair enough, but I can't recall her doing anything any other manager hasn't done except for staying here for a bit longer.

Wow, rude.

No it doesn't. I said she was a manager for a long time; as far as I know noone's been a manager for as long (and isn't on the HoF) s that's something. During her time as manager, she brought great ideas and initiatives to the department - many of which are still around today.

[The Don]

Wow, rude.

No it doesn't. I said she was a manager for a long time; as far as I know noone's been a manager for as long (and isn't on the HoF) s that's something. During her time as manager, she brought great ideas and initiatives to the department - many of which are still around today.

if you can point them out then maybe you'd have a good point :L

[xxMATTGxx]

Jess deserves to be on that page to be honest - She did a lot for the department over the years of her being manager. It may have came to a bad end in terms of the activity but that doesn't mean she didn't do anything. To be honest, there will always be agreements/disagreements over who gets added and who doesn't as we all have different opinions. She always had great ideas for the department and was pushing it all the time to make sure it did it's best.

Like Mike has said already: There will never be a hall of fame that pleases everyone. It seems this page is causing far too much hassle than it's worth.

[lawrawrrr]

if you can point them out then maybe you'd have a good point :L

ALwyas thinking of seasonal events and big competitions which are still running today; such as the vault etc etc.

[Samantha]

ALwyas thinking of seasonal events and big competitions which are still running today; such as the vault etc etc.

I thought Logan created the vault? Did Jess create HabboxStarz?

[lawrawrrr]

I thought Logan created the vault? Did Jess create HabboxStarz?

She hosted one in 2008 so I doubt it

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=442234 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=442234&highlight=%2Cjess%2C)

and no, I think Adzeh started it, judging from annoucements,

[Grig]

She hosted one in 2008 so I doubt it

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=442234 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=442234&highlight=%2Cjess%2C)

and no, I think Adzeh started it, judging from annoucements,

The Vault was created by Adzeh back in 2006 or 7 :P.

And Hx Starz was created by Adzeh too!

Yeh I hope I wasn't being rude towards Sam or anyone, I was just surprised Jess wasn't on there, one or two other people were who I thought most people at the time both disliked and thought their policies were silly. But no-one could tell as everyone has different idea. Might PM her later.

[MKR&*42]

If it was up to me, I'd just scrap the whole thing. People's contributions to Habbox are recognised in the structures and ideas that they helped establish not whether their name is on a list. Now that we have a Habbox Wiki where you can search for practically anyone, working on getting detailed histories of people's high and low points might be a more interesting read anyway.

This^

I know Samanfa and maybe one or two others have spent a lot of time trying to gather information about who deserves a spot on the "HOF", but if it's going to lead to arguments similar to the ones in this thread, then there is just no point. I pointed out in a certain event yesterday that "Famous" (> Fame) is too ambiguous a word in most situations, the same applying for this one. Just have a page for Mizki, Sierk and :Jin: if people still 'want something'.

I do not think a long period of time = HOF, because by that logic, someone who has been in.. let's say... Rare Values for over 1.5 years but is still a regular staff member (could happen), could get on the list without doing anything 'major'.

I wasn't here to experience a lot of what ,Jess, did so I won't say anything about her.

[Samantha]

This^

I know Samanfa and maybe one or two others have spent a lot of time trying to gather information about who deserves a spot on the "HOF", but if it's going to lead to arguments similar to the ones in this thread, then there is just no point. I pointed out in a certain event yesterday that "Famous" (> Fame) is too ambiguous a word in most situations, the same applying for this one. Just have a page for Mizki, Sierk and :Jin: if people still 'want something'.

I do not think a long period of time = HOF, because by that logic, someone who has been in.. let's say... Rare Values for over 1.5 years but is still a regular staff member (could happen), could get on the list without doing anything 'major'.

I wasn't here to experience a lot of what ,Jess, did so I won't say anything about her.

Could happen, that's me ;) however I did a fair bit so I won't comment on that.

If we're just going to get rid of a page because of arguements then get rid of the rep rule on Habbox Forum, get rid of the Assorted/Misc forum and everything else you want to throw in. Who cares if it has a few tiffs? Like others have said it will never be perfect but at least it's something that's moderately better than a Wiki page.

[MKR&*42]

Could happen, that's me ;) however I did a fair bit so I won't comment on that.

If we're just going to get rid of a page because of arguements then get rid of the rep rule on Habbox Forum, get rid of the Assorted/Misc forum and everything else you want to throw in. Who cares if it has a few tiffs? Like others have said it will never be perfect but at least it's something that's moderately better than a Wiki page.

Not because of that, because the word "fame/famous" is too ambiguous and subjective. If another word was used (don't ask me what) then possibly. It just doesn't seem of an upmost importance to have.

Don't bring up reputation or that will be another 5 hour debate started again... :P

[FlyingJesus]

made Habbox what it was today

That's not something to be proud of :P


I pointed out in a certain event yesterday that "Famous" (> Fame) is too ambiguous a word in most situations, the same applying for this one. Just have a page for Mizki, Sierk and :Jin: if people still 'want something'.

Absolutely agree, in terms of "fame" I'm probably better known than a few of the names on the list but I wouldn't suggest that I should be on there, and the same can be said for many people who are well known or have had an impact without being in an official role. Should definitely be kept minimal if it needs to be there at all

[David]

whether you liked her or not jess legitimately deserves her place in the hall of fame for the effort she put into habboxlive over the years and how she kept the department together.

anyone know who this was?

[Samantha]

anyone know who this was?

Bethie I believe.

[lawrawrrr]

The 'fame' debate is stupid. It's a legit word used in TONS of professional organisations, done on achievement and dedication, now how many fans they had.

[MKR&*42]

The 'fame' debate is stupid. It's a legit word used in TONS of professional organisations, done on achievement and dedication, now how many fans they had.

No it is not a stupid debate, especially in this context.

If I go "OMG THIS CELEBRITY IS SO FAMOUS!!!!!!!! YOU MUST HAVE HEARD OF HIM." and you go "Nope, never heard of them before.", then are you going to classify that person as famous?

Just as in the case of Habbox ",Jess, deserves to be noted because all of her work in X and how much she helped out in Y which led to Z = immediate fame" vs "well no... ,Jess, only did X which wasn't anything major... so she doesn't deserve to be noted as famous at all".

Call it "Hall of achievement" or "Dedication", or better yet scrap it. I'd love to see how many people would get into the Hall Of Fame purely because they've been so dedicated by sitting in a department for over a year.

[lawrawrrr]

No it is not a stupid debate, especially in this context.

If I go "OMG THIS CELEBRITY IS SO FAMOUS!!!!!!!! YOU MUST HAVE HEARD OF HIM." and you go "Nope, never heard of them before.", then are you going to classify that person as famous?

Just as in the case of Habbox ",Jess, deserves to be noted because all of her work in X and how much she helped out in Y which led to Z = immediate fame" vs "well no... ,Jess, only did X which wasn't anything major... so she doesn't deserve to be noted as famous at all".

Call it "Hall of achievement" or "Dedication", or better yet scrap it. I'd love to see how many people would get into the Hall Of Fame purely because they've been so dedicated by sitting in a department for over a year.

Yes, it is a stupid debate. You're being pedantic over nothing; there are lots of Hall of Fames all over the world. It's using a popular phrase rather than it being exactly specific.


A hall of fame, wall of fame, walk of fame, walk of stars or avenue of stars is a type of attraction established for any field of endeavor to honor individuals of noteworthy achievement in that field. The meaning of "Fame" has changed over the years, originally meaning "renown" as opposed to today's more common meaning of "celebrity".

[scott]

Jrh -. Years later Jrh2002 returned to Habbox as an Assistant General Manager until he resigned several months later. He has been a large donator to Habbox but now has no dealings with any area of Habbox.I'm 99% sure he returned originally as habboxlive manager then Jess became joint manager then he went onto being agm.I also don't understand why undertaker is on it -He helped shape the features of Rare Values and helped provide accurate and quick information for avid Habbo playerIs that not just a rare values reporters job?

[Samantha]

Jrh -. Years later Jrh2002 returned to Habbox as an Assistant General Manager until he resigned several months later. He has been a large donator to Habbox but now has no dealings with any area of Habbox.I'm 99% sure he returned originally as habboxlive manager then Jess became joint manager then he went onto being agm.I also don't understand why undertaker is on it -He helped shape the features of Rare Values and helped provide accurate and quick information for avid Habbo playerIs that not just a rare values reporters job?

Back then no it wasn't - as a Rare Values REPORTER you only noted down values you saw whereas with him being the manager actually updated them.

[Inseriousity.]

Yes, it is a stupid debate. You're being pedantic over nothing; there are lots of Hall of Fames all over the world. It's using a popular phrase rather than it being exactly specific.

It's not a stupid debate. Using that definition you give, it is clearly the part about something being a 'noteworthy' achievement that is subjective and remains open to interpretation depending on where people set the bar of something being 'noteworthy.' Creating some form of objective criteria to judge people on a Hall of Fame that'll be accepted by the majority therefore is likely to be impossible. The thing about professional organisations is that the people in said organisations are paid to just go along with whatever senior management force on them. :P

[Samantha]

Also Warren and GM who said it should be scrapped, why didn't you say that before?

[MKR&*42]

Yes, it is a stupid debate. You're being pedantic over nothing; there are lots of Hall of Fames all over the world. It's using a popular phrase rather than it being exactly specific.

And please define what accounts towards "noteworthy achievement" for me? I'm sure "managing to stay on HabboxForum.com for 8 years" would be a 'noteworthy achievement' to a select few, but do they go on this "Hall Of Fame"? Managing a department for a year might be "noteworthy achievement" but does everyone who has accomplished that deserve to go on there?

[scott]

Back then no it wasn't - as a Rare Values REPORTER you only noted down values you saw whereas with him being the manager actually updated them.

so he's on it for being rare values manager and doing his job? or am I confused :p

[MKR&*42]

It's not a stupid debate. Using that definition you give, it is clearly the part about something being a 'noteworthy' achievement that is subjective and remains open to interpretation depending on where people set the bar of something being 'noteworthy.' Creating some form of objective criteria to judge people on a Hall of Fame that'll be accepted by the majority therefore is likely to be impossible. The thing about professional organisations is that the people in said organisations are paid to just go along with whatever senior management force on them. :P

Beat me to the 'Noteworthy Achievement' bit.


Also Warren and GM who said it should be scrapped, why didn't you say that before?

Because, before I didn't expect it to turn out into a gigantic debate over certain individuals (specifically ,Jess,), and thus take much longer than needed (that's not your fault). Hall Of Fame seems like a nice idea on the cover (probably why I originally didn't mind it), but once you go into the ambiguity and subjective opinion it eliminates such a need for one.

Mike was the other AGM by the way.

[Samantha]

so he's on it for being rare values manager and doing his job? or am I confused :p

Well I believe he did a fair bit for the Rare Watch part of the department which was rather popular in the day, I was told various factors about who I should have and shouldn't.

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Beat me to the 'Noteworthy Achievement' bit.



Because, before I didn't expect it to turn out into a gigantic debate over certain individuals (specifically ,Jess,), and thus take much longer than needed (that's not your fault). Hall Of Fame seems like a nice idea on the cover (probably why I originally didn't mind it), but once you go into the ambiguity and subjective opinion it eliminates such a need for one.

Mike was the other AGM by the way.

I know Mike was the other.

[lawrawrrr]

And please define what accounts towards "noteworthy achievement" for me? I'm sure "managing to stay on HabboxForum.com for 8 years" would be a 'noteworthy achievement' to a select few, but do they go on this "Hall Of Fame"? Managing a department for a year might be "noteworthy achievement" but does everyone who has accomplished that deserve to go on there?

It's a hall of fame for Habbox staff - not Habbox members.

I actually have said multiple times now that a year's worth of managing isn't worthy; 2 or above might be, and jess' 5 years definitely should be IMO. People should be judged on the amount of time they were a manager, if they dedicated a long time to Habbox and were consistently good (aka, didn't turn into a troll or got banned for x reason) then I think they should be on there. Also if they gave a huge contribution, such as implementing massive ideas or shaping Habbox today - that is, if Habbox wouldn't be the same if they weren't there.

[The Don]

It's a hall of fame for Habbox staff - not Habbox members.

I actually have said multiple times now that a year's worth of managing isn't worthy; 2 or above might be, and jess' 5 years definitely should be IMO. People should be judged on the amount of time they were a manager, if they dedicated a long time to Habbox and were consistently good (aka, didn't turn into a troll or got banned for x reason) then I think they should be on there. Also if they gave a huge contribution, such as implementing massive ideas or shaping Habbox today - that is, if Habbox wouldn't be the same if they weren't there.

that's fine but it should be called something other than hall of fame, maybe there should be a separate one which lists all managers etc, then like a hall of fame for outstanding contributions

[MKR&*42]

It's a hall of fame for Habbox staff - not Habbox members.

I actually have said multiple times now that a year's worth of managing isn't worthy; 2 or above might be, and jess' 5 years definitely should be IMO. People should be judged on the amount of time they were a manager, if they dedicated a long time to Habbox and were consistently good (aka, didn't turn into a troll or got banned for x reason) then I think they should be on there.

If it is more than 2 years, fine, I was only giving an example of a year earlier - not a 'set in concrete' figure.


shaping Habbox today

This is the biggest issue underlining everything (and has been for the past God knows how many posts), that is subject to a lot of opinion and just because 1 person may see an introduction as a really good achievement, it does not mean that everyone else does.( E.g. An update on a certain rule; some people are going to say "well done Chris for introducing such a desirable addition to the rule" whilst others are going to say "pointless and ridiculous". )

Literally going round in circles. Third time - don't call it HOF or just scrap it.

[lawrawrrr]

If it is more than 2 years, fine, I was only giving an example of a year earlier - not a 'set in concrete' figure.



This is the biggest issue underlining everything (and has been for the past God knows how many posts), that is subject to a lot of opinion and just because 1 person may see an introduction as a really good achievement, it does not mean that everyone else does.( E.g. An update on a certain rule; some people are going to say "well done Chris for introducing such a desirable addition to the rule" whilst others are going to say "pointless and ridiculous". )

Literally going round in circles. Third time - don't call it HOF or just scrap it.

It's not subject to opinion at all. Sam's always asking for a lot of input from other people and things, and management also have a lot of sway over who gets in there. It's not Sam's fault if noone else helped her!!

The name doesn't need changing either as it is a modern epithet and doesn't subscribe to changing definitions of the word 'fame' (yes I'm now so annoyed I'm going all technical). Like I said earlier, fame in this context does NOT mean famous whatsoever. Besides, your example is completely moot as there are specific criteria and management of both the user's time and the current management have to recognize the individual's achievement. If there's even a slight disagreement I'm sure they'll arrive at a fair decision. Not biased whatsoever. I know for a fact there's people that Sam and some of the AGMs don't really like on that list so you know!


that's fine but it should be called something other than hall of fame, maybe there should be a separate one which lists all managers etc, then like a hall of fame for outstanding contributions

That was suggested before (not sure if in Content Designers only or Public but it was scrapped as there is already a list of managers - the page would be massive if all past managers had a description and stuff.

[Alkaz]

I'm pretty sure I created a "HOF" page ages ago which just showed the persons name, their avatar and the job title for what they were on the page for. Something like that would be good instead of HOF, just have another page entirely with just a short description of their contribution i.e. '5 years as HxL Manager'.

[Yonder]

I'm pretty sure I created a "HOF" page ages ago which just showed the persons name, their avatar and the job title for what they were on the page for. Something like that would be good instead of HOF, just have another page entirely with just a short description of their contribution i.e. '5 years as HxL Manager'.

Just stick this stuff on the Habbox wiki. Remove HOF. Certain members(staff) will have bigger wiki pages as they have contributed more or they have done something in particular which creates more content on the wiki.

[Samantha]

Just stick this stuff on the Habbox wiki. Remove HOF. Certain members(staff) will have bigger wiki pages as they have contributed more or they have done something in particular which creates more content on the wiki.

That's why you should help me with your Wiki page ;).

Well really if you're just going to remove it then I've wasted (and others') time? That doesn't seem fair as many were willing to help before but just because Jess isn't on it because I couldn't say as much about her it should be removed?

[Yonder]

That's why you should help me with your Wiki page ;).

Well really if you're just going to remove it then I've wasted (and others') time? That doesn't seem fair as many were willing to help before but just because Jess isn't on it because I couldn't say as much about her it should be removed?

It isn't that it is wasted that stuff should get migrated over to the wiki. Where it can easily be managed and updated. The Habbox site should just be full of the dynamic content not so much the static content.

[Chippiewill]

I'm pretty sure I created a "HOF" page ages ago which just showed the persons name, their avatar and the job title for what they were on the page for. Something like that would be good instead of HOF, just have another page entirely with just a short description of their contribution i.e. '5 years as HxL Manager'.

One idea could be to do this, have an auto-generated snippet of a wiki page directly underneath and then a link to "Read more". I think this would be a good way to trim down the page content a bunch and cross-promote the wiki a bunch.