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MKR&*42
21-09-2012, 07:05 AM
Righttttt. Gonna bring this up because I will actually kill someone if I see another girl complaining over this issue.

Do you think there is a notable difference in men breaking up with women as opposed to women breaking up with men in relationships and do men generally treat women badly in relationships? The amount of times in the past I've had to endure Facebook updates by women saying "omg he broke up with me, he is such a *****" or "MEN HAVE NO EMOTIONS" or "crying my eyes out for 3 days because he broke up with me" (after theyve been dating 2 weeks to be honest...) and these statuses received ridiculous amounts of likes - sure some were for sympathy but most were for general agreement.

Even not on Facebook, I hear it whilst walking around college/school in the past/public places. "Don't worry about him babe, men are complete ***** anyway", "men cant do relationships properly hun ;/" etc. And tbh it really grinds my gears, I don't think there is any correlation at all between "breaking up with people" and "Gender" and it's just annoying when I see SO many women complain about it.

Sure I think men can be ***** at times, so can women. And I'm solely talking in regard to a romantic relationship here - nothing to do with sex or rape (even though that wouldn't be in a relationship) etc. Doesn't help that in most films involving hetrosexual relationships, it is usually the man who has done something wrong.

I managed to find this on tumblr the other day which pretty much summed up my point....

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_manwtuiZXg1qasthro1_500.jpg

I'm not saying that every woman who complains about a man in a relationship is bad - if he genuinely does neglect, or abuses her etc. then fine. If it's because he hasn't called her 12 hours, then no. I hate this generalisation upon men in relationships now/masculinity in general really.
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K don't put this in debates, I just wanna ask a very long question lmfao ;[

lawrawrrr
21-09-2012, 07:22 AM
Don't believe everything you read on tumblr/facebook. A lot of it is faked, set up or doctored in some way to prove a 'point'. It's not REAL per se. HOWEVER. A lot of girls do tend to go for men which won't be good for them, or have the 'bad boy' attitude because apparently that's hot (as you can probably tell I don't agree). You could say the opposite though - guys go for the pretty, shallow girls, leaving the ones who have brains and an actual personality, then wonder why when they start to look for a serious relationship it won't last.

There is a different outlook on men and women - especially at youth - as the general consensus these days is that boys are fine to sleep with as many people as possible but if girls do they get called horrible names. It's not like, a definite, always happens possibility but that seems to be what society thinks is ok, on a whole. Guys (in my experience) can act like total ***** in a relationship and then pretend everything's normal and that always happens, which isn't good, but girls are expected to accept it. Girls are generally more emotional and hormonal than guys which also explains why they might seem more, affected, by the relationship.

Part of me wonders if these girls deliberately go for bad guys so they can moan and complain, which is just stupid. Go for someone nice and ACTUALLY BE HAPPY.


Anyway like this sums it up
http://cdn.lolzbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Ladies-Youre-Single-Because..1.jpg

YOU COULD ALSO SAY that it works the opposite way round too so yeah. No sexism here (a)

MKR&*42
21-09-2012, 07:28 AM
Don't believe everything you read on tumblr/facebook. A lot of it is faked, set up or doctored in some way to prove a 'point'. It's not REAL per se. HOWEVER. A lot of girls do tend to go for men which won't be good for them, or have the 'bad boy' attitude because apparently that's hot (as you can probably tell I don't agree). You could say the opposite though - guys go for the pretty, shallow girls, leaving the ones who have brains and an actual personality, then wonder why when they start to look for a serious relationship it won't last.

There is a different outlook on men and women - especially at youth - as the general consensus these days is that boys are fine to sleep with as many people as possible but if girls do they get called horrible names. It's not like, a definite, always happens possibility but that seems to be what society thinks is ok, on a whole. Guys (in my experience) can act like total ***** in a relationship and then pretend everything's normal and that always happens, which isn't good, but girls are expected to accept it. Girls are generally more emotional and hormonal than guys which also explains why they might seem more, affected, by the relationship.

Part of me wonders if these girls deliberately go for bad guys so they can moan and complain, which is just stupid. Go for someone nice and ACTUALLY BE HAPPY.


Anyway like this sums it up
http://cdn.lolzbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Ladies-Youre-Single-Because..1.jpg

YOU COULD ALSO SAY that it works the opposite way round too so yeah. No sexism here (a)

Bold = That's actually never crossed my mind haha. Now that I think about it... that's actually quite strange how that works out. Omg laura I'll be thinking about that during college now.

I suppose in a sense most of the "popular girls" (not all and not necessarily popular) do go after the "bad boys" as you put it. Kinda does put themselves open for a not-so-good ending but then it'd be considered "social suicide" (if we're talking in regards to the group of popular kids at school) if they opted for someone who they liked personally, but who wasn't very high up on this supposed "school social ladder".

Should get better as we age hopefully? :P And I think I've seen that image before hmm.

lawrawrrr
21-09-2012, 07:32 AM
Bold = That's actually never crossed my mind haha. Now that I think about it... that's actually quite strange how that works out. Omg laura I'll be thinking about that during college now.

I suppose in a sense most of the "popular girls" (not all and not necessarily popular) do go after the "bad boys" as you put it. Kinda does put themselves open for a not-so-good ending but then it'd be considered "social suicide" (if we're talking in regards to the group of popular kids at school) if they opted for someone who they liked personally, but who wasn't very high up on this supposed "school social ladder".

Should get better as we age hopefully? :P And I think I've seen that image before hmm.

It does get better with age, I've noticed it already and I'm only 19... It's just a bit strange and a bit annoying with the whole popular girl/bad boy thing because that's not how it should happen really, it should be people like people and people like to bump faces with other people. I hate social ladders and stupid STUPID constructs of popularity, because it's SO SUPERFICIAL omg...

Regret
21-09-2012, 07:43 AM
That's why I don't do relationships, single forever is the best cause all you need is yourself.

GoldenMerc
21-09-2012, 10:53 AM
well my friends girlfriend recently split up with him and "broke his heart"

David
21-09-2012, 11:22 AM
I've seen both sides of a breakup, personally and through friends. Men do have emotions and it's not always their fault.

Samantha
21-09-2012, 11:44 AM
I have a few people on Facebook who just go on and on how they'll be forever alone, no one loves them and they can't get it into their heads that they open themselves to men so many times, they don't have self respect and then they expect someone will want to be with them after? In their cases they're sad when someone 'breaks their heart' after being with them for a few weeks and I'm unsure what that is, I doubt it's love and in reality I believe girls are more at fault to some than others.

Now, it's odd you bring up not talking for 12 hours as I have been on the receiving end of that. Previously in my current relationship my boyfriend really pissed me off, said brb about 8pm, at 12am approximately I had to text him to insinuate talking for him to say he was off to sleep. Now, that's minimal but if it's a regular occurence, when he rarely listens to you, when he puts you under his friends, his family, anything apart from putting you first then it is wrong. No girl should be taken for granted and no boy should be either, I believe men and women should be equal in a relationship but sadly not everyone will see it like that.

When I was in year 11, these girls went and asked all our maths class who were a virgin and who weren't, there were about 25 in that class and only 6 were [virgins] and to me that was shocking, I'd only ever had 1/2 boyfriends let alone slept with anyone. What I didn't like was when people boasted about cheating on people, a male, cheated on his girlfriend whilst on holiday. Of course she was heartbroken but then did the same back? I have no time for people who play *** for tat, they're not proper relationships.

If me and my boyfriend broke up, I'd expect him to dump me first, and yes I'd be upset, it'd feel like 18 months had been gone just like that but at least I wasn't like other girls and hes not like other boys. We basically met online, had effort in the relationship on both sides and made it work, not did things or ranted about each other on Facebook. I can honestly, say I would never call men ***** or even go as far as to say it to my boyfriend via a text; girls influence the reactions of men too and it's not all one sided.

David
21-09-2012, 11:51 AM
Now, it's odd you bring up not talking for 12 hours as I have been on the receiving end of that. Previously in my current relationship my boyfriend really pissed me off, said brb about 8pm, at 12am approximately I had to text him to insinuate talking for him to say he was off to sleep. Now, that's minimal but if it's a regular occurence, when he rarely listens to you, when he puts you under his friends, his family, anything apart from putting you first then it is wrong. No girl should be taken for granted and no boy should be either, I believe men and women should be equal in a relationship but sadly not everyone will see it like that.

oh ive done that, i felt she was getting to clingy and was suffocating me so i told her i want time for myself and we didnt talk for 3 days :( not proud but needed time

Samantha
21-09-2012, 11:59 AM
oh ive done that, i felt she was getting to clingy and was suffocating me so i told her i want time for myself and we didnt talk for 3 days :( not proud but needed time

Yeah, I'd honestly understand if me and him had spoken during the day etc. but we didn't due to other things :P.

buttons
21-09-2012, 12:16 PM
cause guys are generally brought up to be tough and not talk about their feelings even if they're heartbroken, they're not ~supposed~ to show it as they'll look weak while girls are expected talk to each other about it and so get over it easier. when my best friend split up with her boyfriend of 3 years, he was the one that took it really bad. she'd go out, have fun and get with other guys while he was crying for her to come back doing everything for her even though they weren't together. he said he had sex with a few girls but there was no feelings at all and that's when he realized he wanted to be with her only. i've also known of a guy who was beat up by his girlfriend and he stayed with her and he continues to go back to her every time because he loves her.

yes, at school generally the popular people date each other. my first ever boyfriend was the typical class clown who everyone loved and he would pick on me quite often, one time he defended me when some girl picked me as her new victim. he would usually join in with the bullying with her but he stood up for me (we used to talk on AOL messenger, i guess i was someone who listened to him and took him seriously despite his class clown act). anyway, so everyone found out we liked each other but one of his popular female mates told him for a long time to not date me because i was weird. & he listened to that before he finally decided to live his own life. to me it made me really happy because this was a guy who was generally not interested in girls - to the point where he'd bully them - but for some reason i was different, special even? i've loved that ever since, i can only speak for myself when i talk about girls going for bad guys but it's a sense of 'taming' them and being special enough for them to change their ways for you. he was always really nice to me and not to others (which i didn't care about at that time) but turns out he beat up his now ex-wife so i'll know not to make that mistake again lol. in school it's always those who keep quiet about their relationship who last, not people who want to show off about it.

i still go for guys who don't seem interested in any girls at all as #1 i don't want a guy who is already out looking and thus could just settle for me and #2 it does feel nice to know you're special enough for them to want to give up their freedom for you lol. i know not to go for the type like my first boyfriend who was a bully but once you respect yourself as a person, you will only go for others who respect you too. i don't like 'bad' guys anymore but i do like them to be strong, just for security ;) whereas my friend always goes for the possessive, jealous type because she finally feels worthy :/ been guilty of that myself when i had lower confidence.

BUT YEAH WOMEN CAN HURT MEN, MEN CAN HURT WOMEN BUT BEING IN LOOOOVE IS ALL ABOUT TRUSTING THEM NOT TO, ISN'T IT? knowing that they have that power to hurt you and still putting all your trust into them. maybe the problem is with 'love' itself, it can just change (the love chemicals dying down after a few years) but that doesn't mean the person has changed. we just feel victimized and betrayed because we give a person everything and one day they don't want it anymore and we feel worthless n poo.

AlexJRiley
21-09-2012, 02:05 PM
In my opinion whenever theres a break up both sides get hurt, but the side breaking up is more prepared for it because its them whos breaking up so they're more prepared for it because it would have been on their mind for a while. Guys and be ***** but so can girls so in the end everybodies a ****.

Johnathan
21-09-2012, 02:13 PM
In my opinion whenever theres a break up both sides get hurt, but the side breaking up is more prepared for it because its them whos breaking up so they're more prepared for it because it would have been on their mind for a while. Guys and be ***** but so can girls so in the end everybodies a ****.

I agree with this. In a certain stance, people always end up regretting something and wishing it would go back to a previous state. If anyone ever breaks up with a person I think they should not live to regret it. Could of been one of the best things that would of happened to you.

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