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The Don
22-09-2012, 05:58 PM
The standard of Habbox events organisers needs to raise. I've just had an exceptionally poor experience in one. After coming second I asked if I could stay in for next round (the queue wasn't that long and everyone was going to make it in anyway). The Host never replied. Around 30 seconds later without a warning or anything I am kicked from the room. I reload and am told that I was kicked because I didn't type exit, even though i hadn't had any clarification on whether or not I was allowed to stay in for the next round (didn't really matter because it was melting mats and everyone would make it in) After arguing with the host, I am then kicked and banned without being given any clarification beforehand (warnings etc) and after all of this, the winner is allowed to stay in for the next game regardless. Obviously this is just one terrible events organiser, but the fact remains that there should be a warning system used by hosts rather than just banning people, or kicking them (which sparked off this whole fuss).

Zelda
22-09-2012, 06:05 PM
I dno if this has changed, but I remember when I was in events certainly the first time, (didnt rly put much work in when i returned due to news), we were meant to give warnings before kicking people, and make it blatently obvious that they were going to get kicked.

It would seem stupid why you get kicked tho, aslong as your not on somewher a mat needs to return to, for a game like that whats the point of kicking you or making you leave anyway? only needa do that for anyone who isnt in the last 2 :L

Red
22-09-2012, 06:08 PM
If he asked you to exit, then exit. If you didn't after he asked then its your own fault you got kicked. He doesn't have to give you any warning for that :S

The Don
22-09-2012, 06:08 PM
I dno if this has changed, but I remember when I was in events certainly the first time, (didnt rly put much work in when i returned due to news), we were meant to give warnings before kicking people, and make it blatently obvious that they were going to get kicked.

It would seem stupid why you get kicked tho, aslong as your not on somewher a mat needs to return to, for a game like that whats the point of kicking you or making you leave anyway? only needa do that for anyone who isnt in the last 2 :L

Exactly, I did see him give warnings to other people but what's absurd is I didn't receive one whatsoever when I even directly asked him if I could stay for the next round since that game was over... I wasn't stood blocking anything either.

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If he asked you to exit, then exit. If you didn't after he asked then its your own fault you got kicked.

Can you not read? He didn't ask otherwise there wouldn't be a problem...

MKR&*42
22-09-2012, 06:09 PM
If he asked you to exit, then exit. If you didn't after he asked then its your own fault you got kicked.

Doesn't give the host any right to be ignorant though. If someone wants to ask a question before they leave, let them.

I thought there was a warning system in place? :P

Red
22-09-2012, 06:11 PM
Well usually you exit after a game ends. He was just sticking to that rule. I came in and you were being pretty abusive and theres really no need if all it was was kicking you so he began the new game.

SackRace
22-09-2012, 06:12 PM
Same thing has happened to me before. Events is definitely going down hill.

xxMATTGxx
22-09-2012, 06:12 PM
I'm pretty sure there is a system in place but wouldn't this have been better a complaint in the support forums or in a PM? It seems you had a bad case with one specific Events Organiser. They could be new or not new but the issues can always be dealt with in that way. Now if it was an issue happening a lot of events then I can see why a feedback thread would have to be created.

Zelda
22-09-2012, 06:13 PM
If he asked you to exit, then exit. If you didn't after he asked then its your own fault you got kicked. He doesn't have to give you any warning for that :S

A host cant just kick someone for not exiting. Unless its purposefully blocking the game from going any further, which this case isnt, then you shouldnt realy as the person may be lagging etc?

Ed.
22-09-2012, 06:14 PM
I agree with the general theme of this thread. There needs to be a minimum standard for events as they are so varied. Some are much better than others!

Red
22-09-2012, 06:16 PM
A host cant just kick someone for not exiting. Unless its purposefully blocking the game from going any further, which this case isnt, then you shouldnt realy as the person may be lagging etc?

Yes they can. Someone is afk and they don't exit. You think the host is just going to leave them there? Every single host asks people to exit and if they don't they get kicked.

Jurv
22-09-2012, 06:18 PM
Well usually you exit after a game ends. He was just sticking to that rule. I came in and you were being pretty abusive and theres really no need if all it was was kicking you so he began the new game.

sticking to what rule? i'm pretty sure hosts need to ask the users to leave before kicking them..

Zelda
22-09-2012, 06:18 PM
Yes they can. Someone is afk and they don't exit. You think the host is just going to leave them there? Every single host asks people to exit and if they don't they get kicked.

yes but in this case he wasnt causing any disrutption anyway as he would have got back in?????? and host has to let someone have a chance, and i said lagging not afk lmao. if they're clearly afking then kick them but thats not what i said. And the fact he kicks while player asks a question to him is just totally rude anyway ;l

Red
22-09-2012, 06:20 PM
sticking to what rule? i'm pretty sure hosts need to ask the users to leave before kicking them..

and he said both ex.it please......

The Don
22-09-2012, 06:21 PM
Yes they can. Someone is afk and they don't exit. You think the host is just going to leave them there? Every single host asks people to exit and if they don't they get kicked.

LOL, it's not a lot of effort to say exit or kick, and as you're clearly illiterate or just ignoring what I've put I will repeat it, I asked the host whether I could stay or not to which I never gained a response.

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and he said both ex.it please......

No, he didn't. Why lie?

Red
22-09-2012, 06:23 PM
Yes he did :S So if he asked you to ex.it and you didn't its your own fault. It wasn't a big deal anyway. All you had to do was come back in and play the next game, instead of shouting abuse at him.

sex
22-09-2012, 06:24 PM
The only reason your bringing this up in a public forum is so people can agree with you and you won't seem like a total idiot compared to if you where to complain say via PM or whatever as in my honest opinion its totally petty. It's about one EO you can't just make a thread and say they standard needs to be raise across the board when this is the first and only event you have been to in weeks. That's like me saying "i received bad customer service for person A so everyone should get in trouble and be warned even thought it had noting to do with them" lol :s its stupid and this post should have been in a PM rather than you trying to get people to jump on your side and on the bang wagon lol.

He asked you to exit thats final, we want to host more rounds but its people like that who hold up the entire game for everyone as if you has say someone doing that every five minutes you would lose and extra round or two where prizes or points could be given out to people who actually are serious about the tourni. The host handled it well by kicking you lol. everytime you have a bad complaint about one particular person you seem to air it in the open, you need to learn how to use that PM button.

flemflemflem
22-09-2012, 06:25 PM
Don i said to both of you that was in the area, "both please exit" and you didnt, i said it again and u didnt go so i kiked. Then you came back and started shouting abuse at me. And your telling my to sort my life out mate have u heard urself latley, because its more like you need to sort your life out. ;')

The Don
22-09-2012, 06:26 PM
The only reason your bringing this up in a public forum is so people can agree with you and you won't seem like a total idiot compared to if you where to complain say via PM or whatever as in my honest opinion its totally petty. It's about one EO you can't just make a thread and say they standard needs to be raise across the board when this is the first and only event you have been to in weeks. That's like me saying "i received bad customer service for person A so everyone should get in trouble and be warned even thought it had noting to do with them" lol :s its stupid and this post should have been in a PM rather than you trying to get people to jump on your side and on the bang wagon lol.

I don't need people to jump on my side when I'm entirely in the right. I've had this issue before and also made a feedback thread then, a similar thing happened again so I've made another feedback thread, someone else in this thread has also agreed that they've had problems so it's clearly not just a one off. Thanks though :)

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Don i said to both of you that was in the area, "both please exit" and you didnt, i said it again and u didnt go so i kiked. Then you came back and started shouting abuse at me. And your telling my to sort my life out mate have u heard urself latley, because its more like you need to sort your life out. ;')

The standard of Habbox Staff. The quality sure has declined

Edit: I don't know which event you were in because you most definitely didn't say that, and when I came back in the winner was still in the game with other users entering.

Jurv
22-09-2012, 06:28 PM
and he said both ex.it please......

yh and if the user doesn't exit they should be warned surely? no one should be kicked from the room unless they're a) inactive or b) received warnings from the host, and that obviously hasn't been the case. but yh i'm sure events management will send the user a feedback pm telling them what they've done wrong/what they need to improve on.

Red
22-09-2012, 06:31 PM
yh and if the user doesn't exit they should be warned surely? no one should be kicked from the room unless they're a) inactive or b) received warnings from the host, and that obviously hasn't been the case. but yh i'm sure events management will send the user a feedback pm telling them what they've done wrong/what they need to improve on.

So as your experience as a host. If you told a people to exit twice and they don't? Would you not have kicked them. :S Seems fair to me and what most events hosts do. The warning system seems to be used more with people messing about. Brad hasn't done anything wrong.

The Don
22-09-2012, 06:35 PM
The only reason your bringing this up in a public forum is so people can agree with you and you won't seem like a total idiot compared to if you where to complain say via PM or whatever as in my honest opinion its totally petty. It's about one EO you can't just make a thread and say they standard needs to be raise across the board when this is the first and only event you have been to in weeks. That's like me saying "i received bad customer service for person A so everyone should get in trouble and be warned even thought it had noting to do with them" lol :s its stupid and this post should have been in a PM rather than you trying to get people to jump on your side and on the bang wagon lol.

He asked you to exit thats final, we want to host more rounds but its people like that who hold up the entire game for everyone as if you has say someone doing that every five minutes you would lose and extra round or two where prizes or points could be given out to people who actually are serious about the tourni. The host handled it well by kicking you lol. everytime you have a bad complaint about one particular person you seem to air it in the open, you need to learn how to use that PM button.

He didn't... He didn't even respond to the question I asked.

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So as your experience as a host. If you told a people to exit twice and they don't? Would you not have kicked them. :S Seems fair to me and what most events hosts do. The warning system seems to be used more with people messing about. Brad hasn't done anything wrong.

Oh, he asked me twice now? That's a significant increase from actual reality.

Jurv
22-09-2012, 06:37 PM
So as your experience as a host. If you told a people to exit twice and they don't? Would you not have kicked them. :S Seems fair to me and what most events hosts do. The warning system seems to be used more with people messing about. Brad hasn't done anything wrong.

well no, i'd ask them to exit once and then give them a warning the second time along with asking them to leave. from what it looks like in this thread the host has failed to give warnings and has kicked someone without answering their question, which is pretty unacceptable really. i don't know if it's changed since i left, but i don't think it has. and who's brad lol?

Samantha
22-09-2012, 06:38 PM
well no, i'd ask them to exit once and then give them a warning the second time along with asking them to leave. from what it looks like in this thread the host has failed to give warnings and has kicked someone without answering their question, which is pretty unacceptable really. i don't know if it's changed since i left, but i don't think it has. and who's brad lol?

brad is flem.

If flem asked people to exit then the winner should have been kicked too..

Jurv
22-09-2012, 06:41 PM
brad is flem.

If flem asked people to exit then the winner should have been kicked too..

oh i thought she meant bradtheladlong; lmao. and yh all players should have been warned, and then kicked.

The Don
22-09-2012, 06:42 PM
brad is flem.

If flem asked people to exit then the winner should have been kicked too..

winner

Kyle
22-09-2012, 06:43 PM
In a tournament like this it's often essential for hosts to squeeze as many events into the hour as possible which means they're sometimes going to need to bypass some of the not-so-essential regulations that are in place. I don't think formal warnings will have been needed in this case considering asking somebody to exit is pretty much telling them to get out anyway, especially when it's done more than once. Yes, you probably could have stayed in the game but the host decided to ask you to exit and you didn't. Next time you're kicked try to be a little less aggressive towards the host and take their decision on board.

A whole feedback on the "standard of event hosts" based on one isolated (or two, if you count last month's "cheating in hxss" dilemma) occurrence is not needed. If you have other examples of other hosts then feel free to post them but atm it looks a bit like a thread made to target one host... PM smurfed- and get over it.

The Don
22-09-2012, 06:49 PM
In a tournament like this it's often essential for hosts to squeeze as many events into the hour as possible which means they're sometimes going to need to bypass some of the not-so-essential regulations that are in place. I don't think formal warnings will have been needed in this case considering asking somebody to exit is pretty much telling them to get out anyway, especially when it's done more than once. Yes, you probably could have stayed in the game but the host decided to ask you to exit and you didn't. Next time you're kicked try to be a little less aggressive towards the host and take their decision on board.

A whole feedback on the "standard of event hosts" based on one isolated (or two, if you count last month's "cheating in hxss" dilemma) occurrence is not needed. If you have other examples of other hosts then feel free to post them but atm it looks a bit like a thread made to target one host... PM smurfed- and get over it.

I understand what you're saying and most of it is right, if he had warned etc then yeh, everything you've just said is pretty much right (besides the last condescending bit). However there was no warning, and even more so, the winner wasn't kicked which is odd.

Kyle
22-09-2012, 07:02 PM
However there was no warning, and even more so, the winner wasn't kicked which is odd.
Like I said, "exit please" often stands in for actual formally warning somebody, especially when hosts are pushed for time. If the atmosphere of the event is turning sour because of one person then there is no real need to go through a set of warnings when the quickest and most effective solution is a kick/ban. Not quite sure why the winner wasn't also asked to exit but perhaps they then realised that since there weren't so many people in the line then it would be okay to let them stay in. Probably not a fair decision after kicking you but again, certainly not worthy of a feedback thread.

The fact that you were banned from the room was probably more to do with your general attitude towards others rather than to the rules of the game. You can't just come into a room after you're kicked and tell a host to sort their life out, even if they are in the wrong in your eyes - it's rude.

The Don
22-09-2012, 07:08 PM
Like I said, "exit please" often stands in for actual formally warning somebody, especially when hosts are pushed for time. If the atmosphere of the event is turning sour because of one person then there is no real need to go through a set of warnings when the quickest and most effective solution is a kick/ban. Not quite sure why the winner wasn't also asked to exit but perhaps they then realised that since there weren't so many people in the line then it would be okay to let them stay in. Probably not a fair decision after kicking you but again, certainly not worthy of a feedback thread.

The fact that you were banned from the room was probably more to do with your general attitude towards others rather than to the rules of the game. You can't just come into a room after you're kicked and tell a host to sort their life out, even if they are in the wrong in your eyes - it's rude.

The host didn't even reply to me or say exit please. I asked them if I could stay in for the next round, they didn't reply, then said "rep or furni to the winner" then just kicked me and let other people in which is why this thread has been made. I will be pming this to whoever events manager now anyway so no point keeping this thread open

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