Habboxlive, seriously?

[Richie]

I'm sorry but seriously? It's 4pm on a Sunday and habboxlive have resorted to streaming. Fair play to @Bolt660 (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55726); for stepping in but these days the radio staff just seem to rely on him, which isn't a good thing. It was the same as yesterday he had to stream at 7pm because no one would go on. I've said this already and I'll say it again, is there really any point in keeping the radio open? As much as I love habboxlive and hate playing the negative muppet there has been no sign of improvement. Only last week there were rants about individual departments and how they could improve yet this week things are worse.

I could easily become a regular dj and meet a minimum of 3 slots a week but I choose not to because I believe there's no point in putting in so much time trying to make the radio popular when **** like this is going to happen and bring it down after one person tries to build it back up. The only reason why I became a guest dj is because I'd still like to pop on air now and then and help out the radio but it has gotten to the point where I don't see the point in getting numbers, although I still do try. I don't know why I create these threads, the radio staff up their game for a week then go back to their old ways when the feedback threads die down.

I'm meant to be preparing a Halloween event tomorrow where we have a live stream, bring guests on, have a chat and ask them if they've seen anything on the cameras. I asked management could they help me find some djs who would like to get involved as I believe it would be a great way to draw in numbers but it can't be done alone. It's now Sunday no one seems to want to participate whether it be a communication barrier or just pure laziness. The team are focusing far too much on bonding. Chatting away on skype / spam / creating threads on when we should all bond. I sound like a complete buzz kill but surely if staff cared about the radio so much they wouldn't mind going on air, speaking now and then, then going back to skype it doesn't exactly take skill. What frustrates me the most is this thread will receive comments from staff 'i do this, i do that' I don't care what you do & don't do, this threads about the department as a whole, not just you. Another thing what takes the biscuit is people are off for Halloween midterm and we still have bolt streaming.

I'm not continuing with my Halloween show tomorrow as my time nor anyone elses is not worth wasting on planning and preparation for something that no-one else seems to care about. I offered some ideas & to lend a hand even though guest djs aren't supposed to do events (well they weren't allowed for back to school or w/e) and it just got ignored. Again, if you don't like my reasoning for not doing so, remove my permissions and best of luck.

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[Samantha]

I agree, I think it's also resulted in many staff members not caring about the department. It's even got to the point where I knew those, not even on the Habbox Live team have asked for a panel as they want to help the department (but can't apply however many hours per week to it). 4pm, yeah people may be eating their Sunday Dinners now but not everyone will be and frankly it's a peak time especially on a weekend. See how many people are on Habbo, I wanted to listen to Habbox Live yesterday but I decided against it, I like hearing DJs speak during their show, it's just like Capital FM without the adverts to me.

What annoys me is the fact DJs say so and so listeners for a competition, they need to have realistic numbers in some cases as if you want 40 listeners and currently only have 5 (example) they probably won't get 8 people each to join in. What I've also noticed is a lack of DJs turning upto events, maybe due to no one being on the radio anyway but yes I agree with you Richie. I think I've gone on a bit too much.

[lawrawrrr]

Don't quit Richie ;(

I do agree about the bonding thing, it's a bit silly how much a lot of managers focus on the talking to staff, and how many staff are too interested in talking to their friends on skype than being on air. It's not hard to go over your minimum people!! There are a lot of staff now, if everyone did their bit the radio would be good again. But as everyone keeps saying - I'm the only one who bothers, therefore, I'm not going to bother anymore - then literally noone is bothering. I'd like to think that if people see other staff working hard they'd want to work harder to get the recognition. I'd hope with the managers the radio would improve - they haven't even been here a month yet, give them a chance, but yeah. With Mike overseeing the department it was obviously going to hit a bit of a lull - he simply couldn't be a full-time manager but lets see what Jade and Gina bring to improve the department.

[Richie]

I agree, I think it's also resulted in many staff members not caring about the department. It's even got to the point where I knew those, not even on the Habbox Live team have asked for a panel as they want to help the department (but can't apply however many hours per week to it). 4pm, yeah people may be eating their Sunday Dinners now but not everyone will be and frankly it's a peak time especially on a weekend. See how many people are on Habbo, I wanted to listen to Habbox Live yesterday but I decided against it, I like hearing DJs speak during their show, it's just like Capital FM without the adverts to me.

What annoys me is the fact DJs say so and so listeners for a competition, they need to have realistic numbers in some cases as if you want 40 listeners and currently only have 5 (example) they probably won't get 8 people each to join in. What I've also noticed is a lack of DJs turning upto events, maybe due to no one being on the radio anyway but yes I agree with you Richie. I think I've gone on a bit too much.

The sums it pretty much up

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Don't quit Richie ;(

I do agree about the bonding thing, it's a bit silly how much a lot of managers focus on the talking to staff, and how many staff are too interested in talking to their friends on skype than being on air. It's not hard to go over your minimum people!! There are a lot of staff now, if everyone did their bit the radio would be good again. But as everyone keeps saying - I'm the only one who bothers, therefore, I'm not going to bother anymore - then literally noone is bothering. I'd like to think that if people see other staff working hard they'd want to work harder to get the recognition. I'd hope with the managers the radio would improve - they haven't even been here a month yet, give them a chance, but yeah. With Mike overseeing the department it was obviously going to hit a bit of a lull - he simply couldn't be a full-time manager but lets see what Jade and Gina bring to improve the department.

Ah I'm not quitting. I'm just saying if they don't like my reasoning for not doing the event, then they best remove me from the team. You hit a good point about them not being here a month, which isn't very fair on them and believe me I wouldn't have created this other than the fact that I believe everything is being treated in the wrong way. They obviously mean well but trying to get a bonding session together (that sounds dirty) when the radio is dead is just crazy, the radio team has enough bonding as it is. They need to focus on filling the timetable and then if they really think it's necessary interaction with each other.

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[sex]

it was offline for a lot longer than that yesterday.... i was tuned into hffm most of the day, and everything ran so smoothly.. i didnt have to refresh the site every time the dj changed because they actually know how to do change overs properly. fair play to martin because his is the first changeover ive seen done properly in months on the site where i didnt have to refresh.

also on the note off hffm, the djs were way better, some may have been younger but still..... what do you expect when the age profile of habbo is getting younger? also about three times on their radio three djs throughout the day had to leave early, and did the radio go offline? NOPE because other djs came on and seemed enthusiastic that they got to take over till the next dj took over, there is none of that at habbox.

most of the djs seem like they are completely on their own unless there are in the little clique thats at habboxlive and that has always been there.

[Inseriousity.]

Guest djs aren't allowed to do events? I was in charge when b2s was on and I don't recall saying this unless you heard it off someone else or my memory is very bad (it is quite bad tbh)?

I refuse to believe there is no potential in the radio. Sure, they're not the go-to cool thing that radios were at their peak but I believe they have enough unique features that it is something worth fighting for.

[lawrawrrr]

The sums it pretty much up

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Ah I'm not quitting. I'm just saying if they don't like my reasoning for not doing the event, then they best remove me from the team. You hit a good point about them not being here a month, which isn't very fair on them and believe me I wouldn't have created this other than the fact that I believe everything is being treated in the wrong way, they want to start bonding, the radio team has enough bonding as it is. They need to focus on the radio then interaction with each other.

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Agree 100%. It is about finding the balance, especially with such a big and important, community-based department though - which they don't seem to have at this moment in time!! TBH I think right now the radio as a feature is more important than the staff behind it - so my advice to J/G would be to focus on that then consider how happy the staff are afterwards. I know Jade in particular is very chatty and friendly (no offense Gina I just see her talking to people on Skype and in group chats with her) but she's doing work AND chatting most of the time - something many DJs don't have the knowledge to do!

[Samantha]

With bonding, chatting on Skype and such, why can't they do that on air? Get a few DJs together have a little gossip session, have a bit of fun whilst talking to people on air. Get people to call in via Skype like previous attempts - get people involved.

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Inseriousity.; when did he say he can't do events? Didn't he say he can't do it ALONE as no one was bothered enough to help him?

[Richie]

Guest djs aren't allowed to do events? I was in charge when b2s was on and I don't recall saying this unless you heard it off someone else or my memory is very bad (it is quite bad tbh)?

I refuse to believe there is no potential in the radio. Sure, they're not the go-to cool thing that radios were at their peak but I believe they have enough unique features that it is something worth fighting for.

Ah I'm thinking of the habboxstarz, i think it was you who said guest djs couldn't host it and that's an event :P but yeah it's a little hard to do something like a live stream of a haunted house single handedly. Oh and there's definitely potential in the radio, there has been for a long time but it's never acted on. That's why I don't see the point. If the effort isn't going to be made, there is no potential. Which at the moment is happening.

[Samantha]

Oh thanks for answering my question Richie lmao.

Can I just ask, what do you need to be a DJ nowadays? As some of the quality is a bit under par.

[Foregetfuhl]

I've literally just gotten home from a weekend away enjoying Top Gear Live and the small part of time I saw in Manchester. I was not aware that this had happened nor that they were streaming. Myself and Gina have already spoken about streaming in peak time slots and are trying to sort it out at the moment. Unfortunately theres not a lot we can do except cut out those who aren't willing to work and praise those who do. I already spoke to Gina and said that staff bonding should be left until after Halloween but as shes marking herself as away she wants it done before she goes. At the moment I'm trying to write up a thread for the DJs to help improve listener interaction and stuff like that. We're trying to get DJs involved with Halloween events (to no avail might I add!) same with the staff song. We're planning chat shows with DJs, bringing in new ones who may I add have been DJing and doing their work load! Its a case of get rid of the ones who simply won't do the work and bring in those that do. I plenty DJ every week and go on when I can. I chat on skype yeah woopidoo. But ask any of the people who I chat on skype with its usually about HxL and what I am doing at HxL. I have countless lists of things to do and I am taking it one day at a time. The radio won't improve in a week, maybe not even a month but it will improve every little bit that myself and Gina can get it.

[Inseriousity.]

Oh no I didn't mean they couldn't host events at all. My argument was that I'd prefer regular DJs to have priority as they're supposed to be the more active but if no-one stepped up then I'd have no problem with a guest dj doing it. I also had the feeling that there were a few guest DJs who seemed to be there purely to host the big one-off events (for the recognition and praise) then disappear into obscurity til the next one which I didn't find particularly fair.

[Jas,]

I've seen a lot of slots being booked looks great :), I don't actually streaming unless I'm a last resort meaning if no one can go on and to save radio being offline during the day :)

[Samantha]

I've literally just gotten home from a weekend away enjoying Top Gear Live and the small part of time I see in Manchester. I was not aware that this had happened nor that they were streaming. Myself and Gina have already spoken about streaming in peak time slots and are trying to sort it out at the moment. Unfortunately theres not a lot we can do except cut out those who aren't willing to work and praise those who do. I already spoke to Gina and said that staff bonding should be left until after Halloween but as shes marking herself as away she wants it done before she goes. At the moment I'm trying to write up a thread for the DJs to help improve listener interaction and stuff like that. We're trying to get DJs involved with Halloween events (to no avail might I add!) same with the staff song. We're planning chat shows with DJs, bringing in new ones who may I add have been DJing and doing their work load! Its a case of get rid of the ones who simply won't do the work and bring in those that do. I plenty DJ every week and go on when I can. I chat on skype yeah woopidoo. But ask any of the people who I chat on skype with its usually about HxL and what I am doing at HxL. I have countless lists of things to do and I am taking it one day at a time. The radio won't improve in a week, maybe not even a month but it will improve every little bit that myself and Gina can get it.

Warn them if they do it (or continually do it).
If a manager's priority is Staff Bonding, well.
Good ;).
It's a requirement for those Senior and above to host events isn't it? Apply that more as it's not on. You're the manager they should listen to you.
That shouldn't be a priority, maybe change the way you do it, have a poll on the site asking which song listeners would like to hear staff sing. Get them involved.

I agree that you haven't been there long enough to warrant massive changes as of yet but I have faith.

Hey Zak; went to Top Gear Live you might have seen him!

[Foregetfuhl]

Warn them if they do it (or continually do it).
If a manager's priority is Staff Bonding, well.
Good ;).
It's a requirement for those Senior and above to host events isn't it? Apply that more as it's not on. You're the manager they should listen to you.
That shouldn't be a priority, maybe change the way you do it, have a poll on the site asking which song listeners would like to hear staff sing. Get them involved.

I agree that you haven't been there long enough to warrant massive changes as of yet but I have faith.

Hey Zak; went to Top Gear Live you might have seen him!

We don't actually have any heads at the minute we're currently deciding on who will get the position and a couple of the seniors have already booked Halloween events which is good (although I wish they would do 2/3 rather than 1 which is actually what I'm about to speak to them about right now! Just put my dirty laundry in the bin HAHA) but we're trying to push everyone if you get me? I know what I wanted and when I wanted it I just think Gina disagreed is all. Same with the staff song. I felt there was no need as we've only recently done a staff song.. but obviously with the serious changes in staff this was something that Gina wanted to do.

I may have! :o BUT IT WAS PACKED!!

[Samantha]

We don't actually have any heads at the minute we're currently deciding on who will get the position and a couple of the seniors have already booked Halloween events which is good (although I wish they would do 2/3 rather than 1 which is actually what I'm about to speak to them about right now! Just put my dirty laundry in the bin HAHA) but we're trying to push everyone if you get me? I know what I wanted and when I wanted it I just think Gina disagreed is all. Same with the staff song. I felt there was no need as we've only recently done a staff song.. but obviously with the serious changes in staff this was something that Gina wanted to do.

I may have! :o BUT IT WAS PACKED!!

I think what you could do is delegate roles to the staff, seniors could do a little more to show they're worthy of being a head DJ, get them to do little things that they did previously. Same with normal DJs, push them to host events (like you're doing now). Remember though Halloween doesn't last that long and the hype isn't as big as it is with Christmas or Summer at Habbox so perhaps 1 is enough (considering there's what 3/4 Seniors); plus the events you've planned too.

[Foregetfuhl]

I think what you could do is delegate roles to the staff, seniors could do a little more to show they're worthy of being a head DJ, get them to do little things that they did previously. Same with normal DJs, push them to host events (like you're doing now). Remember though Halloween doesn't last that long and the hype isn't as big as it is with Christmas or Summer at Habbox so perhaps 1 is enough (considering there's what 3/4 Seniors); plus the events you've planned too.

Well we have 3 seniors atm as one is marked as away (silly Hurricane choosing Halloween!) But i do love Halloween and I actually have already planned Christmas events.. (how sad am i.. -_-) And we're redoing the Senior roles at the moment to loosen the Head DJ roles as the Head DJs do have to do A LOT! Such as mentoring the trialists as when your a Head DJ you are mentoring a whole team not just a few trialists and things like that. And I always said that the radio djs should do one sort of event even if its just one a month!

[Grig]

Yeh, Guest DJs are allowed to organize events- every little bit helps.

Staff songs etc. can all be put to the back-burner. There are two main things needed- quality in terms of DJs and quality.

I came on to listen to the radio for the first time in a while a few days back and ended up tuning out because a DJ was dull and did not make the show interesting. Honestly, I thought they were put there to make listeners fall asleep or to repeat the same phrases in between every song. Then, I go tune into ThisHabbo and the DJ quality there is at a whole other level- it was dynamic, interesting etc.

Moreover, listeners are a priority. Streaming only depletes them. I saw Martin with 30 listeners streaming, you can get lots more actually doing a show.

BIG SHOWS!!! Those are needed, Mike shared that vision with me for all these things to go ahead like plays, call-in stuff etc. Make yourself unique and it will grab attention. Make it dull and boring, and it'll lose listeners. Hopefully, we'll see some more of those soon.

The other priority, is make sure the DJs are right in your wings by constant communication, rather than not knowing who's where or what.

[Foregetfuhl]

Yeh, Guest DJs are allowed to organize events- every little bit helps.

Staff songs etc. can all be put to the back-burner. There are two main things needed- quality in terms of DJs and quality.

I came on to listen to the radio for the first time in a while a few days back and ended up tuning out because a DJ was dull and did not make the show interesting. Honestly, I thought they were put there to make listeners fall asleep or to repeat the same phrases in between every song. Then, I go tune into ThisHabbo and the DJ quality there is at a whole other level- it was dynamic, interesting etc.

Moreover, listeners are a priority. Streaming only depletes them. I saw Martin with 30 listeners streaming, you can get lots more actually doing a show.

BIG SHOWS!!! Those are needed, Mike shared that vision with me for all these things to go ahead like plays, call-in stuff etc. Make yourself unique and it will grab attention. Make it dull and boring, and it'll lose listeners. Hopefully, we'll see some more of those soon.

The other priority, is make sure the DJs are right in your wings by constant communication, rather than not knowing who's where or what.

I would like to think myself and Gina are doing this along with the senior DJs. Its safe to say there isn't one DJ who I don't try to talk to on a daily basis if I can.

We are sorting out the quality and we know there are a few major issues with quality of the DJs we are trying to help those who aren't exactly up to par with constant feedback and help but unfortunately if they don't improve we may have to just let them go. HabboxLive needs to have this quality I completely agree and we will be focusing on that in future along with listener interaction and involvement with events and other departments. DJs are starting to DJ more yes. But not at the times that should be djed. Whether this is because they have their favourite programmes on or because they are eating dinner I don't know. HabboxLive is a work in progress and it will be sorted. I promise you that.

[Grig]

I would like to think myself and Gina are doing this along with the senior DJs. Its safe to say there isn't one DJ who I don't try to talk to on a daily basis if I can.

We are sorting out the quality and we know there are a few major issues with quality of the DJs we are trying to help those who aren't exactly up to par with constant feedback and help but unfortunately if they don't improve we may have to just let them go. HabboxLive needs to have this quality I completely agree and we will be focusing on that in future along with listener interaction and involvement with events and other departments. DJs are starting to DJ more yes. But not at the times that should be djed. Whether this is because they have their favourite programmes on or because they are eating dinner I don't know. HabboxLive is a work in progress and it will be sorted. I promise you that.

Not saying that you weren't doing that, just giving tips! I stopped doing that for a period and it was a nightmare, so had to spend a while contacting people.

I agree the Head DJ role is a bit too intense atm and needs a few tweaks.

Also, HxL also really needs an international manager to focus on that side as-well :).

[Richie]

I would like to think myself and Gina are doing this along with the senior DJs. Its safe to say there isn't one DJ who I don't try to talk to on a daily basis if I can.

We are sorting out the quality and we know there are a few major issues with quality of the DJs we are trying to help those who aren't exactly up to par with constant feedback and help but unfortunately if they don't improve we may have to just let them go. HabboxLive needs to have this quality I completely agree and we will be focusing on that in future along with listener interaction and involvement with events and other departments. DJs are starting to DJ more yes. But not at the times that should be djed. Whether this is because they have their favourite programmes on or because they are eating dinner I don't know. HabboxLive is a work in progress and it will be sorted. I promise you that.


Two words without sounding completely dramatic quality & passion. Both have gone out the window, each show is the same lets face facts. This is how every show goes down (well nearly every):

'Hello im dj blablabla'
'next song is blablabla'
'that song was blablabla'
'comp at blablabla'

It's that on loop for an hour and that's no exaggeration, it just seems like no-one has a personality on air any more. Another huge problems is change overs, djs don't seem to know how to do them anymore without buffering.

[Foregetfuhl]

Not saying that you weren't doing that, just giving tips! I stopped doing that for a period and it was a nightmare, so had to spend a while contacting people.

I agree the Head DJ role is a bit too intense atm and needs a few tweaks.

Also, HxL also really needs an international manager to focus on that side as-well :).

I agree we need more focus on international which is why I'm trying my hardest to get more international DJs recruited. Obviously that side of things isn't great but they are coming in slowly and hopefully gradually with all the extra ways we are planning to have people apply it will help there too. Hopefully someone will then step up in our eyes who we think deserves to be raised up to senior and we can go from there. :)

[Richie]

The international side of things shouldn't be even brought up. It should be there, yes but the uk side of things are on its last limbs so realistically we shouldn't be fretting over international slots. Focus on that before working on the international team.

[Foregetfuhl]

The international side of things shouldn't be even brought up. It should be there, yes but the uk side of things are on its last limbs we shouldn't be fretting over international slots. Focus on that before working on the international team.

Why can't we do both? HabboxLive is a united department irregardless of whether they are from Australia or England?

[Grig]

The international side of things shouldn't be even brought up. It should be there, yes but the uk side of things are on its last limbs so realistically we shouldn't be fretting over international slots. Focus on that before working on the international team.

Which was why my suggestion was to get an international manager to solely manage the international side, whilst Jade and Gina can focus on the UK, as a lot of effort and work needs to be put in there. Too many different focuses will not make the UK side better.

[Richie]

Why can't we do both? HabboxLive is a united department irregardless of whether they are from Australia or England?

Because from reading the comments you've made in this thread, trying to do one is a struggle as it is.

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Which was why my suggestion was to get an international manager to solely manage the international side, whilst Jade and Gina can focus on the UK, as a lot of effort and work needs to be put in there. Too many different focuses will not make the UK side better.

It would have worked well pal but management didn't like the idea. Besides, they haven't got anyone suitable to be an international manager atm. I'd suggest they keep that position available on the site though so international staff would also have something to strive for. Might I add I don't believe positions for head dj role should be just handed out because the positions have become empty. Staff should still have to work for promotion, not just be handed it.

[David]

havent read the thread but i dont see a point in arguing for a better radio richie, its obviously dying - look at all the threads created with suggestions/complaints on the department and nothing has improved for the long term. i'd give up and get on with more important things.

ditch the radio i say

[Richie]

havent read the thread but i dont see a point in arguing for a better radio richie, its obviously dying - look at all the threads created with suggestions/complaints on the department and nothing has improved for the long term. i'd give up and get on with more important things.

ditch the radio i say

That's what I hinted in my first post pal. I do believe the radio has potential and it has had potential for a long time now but if no one is going to strive to do their best by all means close it and save some of the resources for other departments that are actually trying.

[Foregetfuhl]

That's what I hinted in my first post pal. I do believe the radio has potential and it has had potential for a long time now but if no one is going to strive to do their best by all means close it and save some of the resources for other departments that are actually trying.

I'm doing everything I can and will continue to do so. I hope Gina is too. We aren't just filling the Head DJ positions they are working hard for them and we are noting who/when/what/why etc.etc. will go up to Head DJ based on their performances and hard work. BUT with Gina posted away from 10th-30th November I doubt I can handle Head DJ and management stuff ALL on my own.. I am not a goddess.

[sex]

also you may have djs who are meeting their requirement but they arent good.... there was at least 2 djs in five hours i listened to hxl last night who i could not understand a word of what they said. Im just gonna use this as an example but jas mumbled and grunted his way through his "show" last night....... he obviously didn't seem like he enjoyed it very much? ive heard this frm multiple people also that they can;t understand him and that he doesn't really have a dj voice lol :S
im sure there are many more like him but i cant think of their names

http://www.hffm.co.uk/ listen here and you will hear the djs talk loud and clear and go off the script off "playing this next shoutout and requests please" they were talking about the music and going to concerts etc lol

[Grig]

I'm doing everything I can and will continue to do so. I hope Gina is too. We aren't just filling the Head DJ positions they are working hard for them and we are noting who/when/what/why etc.etc. will go up to Head DJ based on their performances and hard work. BUT with Gina posted away from 10th-30th November I doubt I can handle Head DJ and management stuff ALL on my own.. I am not a goddess.

That's a bugger!

I'd also like the point out that HX' structure is a bit backward. Habbo radios everywhere have restructured to incorporate UK Managers and int. managers. Very rarely do you see one or two people managing anymore- in terms of radio.

Head DJs are also not about working hard, but being great DJs. These are people who GIVE advice to other DJs on how to improve in feedback PMs, which I hope are still happening. If they themselves have issues, then it becomes awkward and defeats them being in that position. So it's not purely on hard work etc.

[Foregetfuhl]

also you may have djs who are meeting their requirement but they arent good.... there was at least 2 djs in five hours i listened to hxl last night who i could not understand a word of what they said. Im just gonna use this as an example but jas mumbled and grunted his way through his "show" last night....... he obviously didn't seem like he enjoyed it very much? ive heard this frm multiple people also that they can;t understand him and that he doesn't really have a dj voice lol :S
im sure there are many more like him but i cant think of their names

http://www.hffm.co.uk/ listen here and you will hear the djs talk loud and clear and go off the script off "playing this next shoutout and requests please" they were talking about the music and going to concerts etc lol

Hence why I said we are currently sorting out quality issues. and those who don't do any good or aren't improving with the mounds of feedback we are giving them will be removed. Quality and quantity are needed yes. But we will gain quantity with quality if that makes sense?


That's a bugger!

I'd also like the point out that HX' structure is a bit backward. Habbo radios everywhere have restructured to incorporate UK Managers and int. managers. Very rarely do you see one or two people managing anymore- in terms of radio.

Head DJs are also not about working hard, but being great DJs. These are people who GIVE advice to other DJs on how to improve in feedback PMs, which I hope are still happening. If they themselves have issues, then it becomes awkward and defeats them being in that position. So it's not purely on hard work etc.

DJs receive three reports/feedbacks a month and also should be continuously talking to their Head DJs/us about how to improve which we do strive to do. :)

[Richie]

I'm doing everything I can and will continue to do so. I hope Gina is too. We aren't just filling the Head DJ positions they are working hard for them and we are noting who/when/what/why etc.etc. will go up to Head DJ based on their performances and hard work. BUT with Gina posted away from 10th-30th November I doubt I can handle Head DJ and management stuff ALL on my own.. I am not a goddess.

I'm sure if you asked Matt or Mike they wouldn't mind lending a hand.


also you may have djs who are meeting their requirement but they arent good.... there was at least 2 djs in five hours i listened to hxl last night who i could not understand a word of what they said. Im just gonna use this as an example but jas mumbled and grunted his way through his "show" last night....... he obviously didn't seem like he enjoyed it very much? ive heard this frm multiple people also that they can;t understand him and that he doesn't really have a dj voice lol :S
im sure there are many more like him but i cant think of their names

http://www.hffm.co.uk/ listen here and you will hear the djs talk loud and clear and go off the script off "playing this next shoutout and requests please" they were talking about the music and going to concerts etc lol

I think a lot of the djs make great conversation when they aren't on air but once they go on they seem to be restricted to a few lines, not sure if they're embarrassed, shy or afraid they'll mess up but they need to man up!! I remember when I was proper into djing one of the top tips was to always be happy when speaking on air, listeners can always tell if someones not happy even if they are hiding behind a mic.

[Grig]

also you may have djs who are meeting their requirement but they arent good.... there was at least 2 djs in five hours i listened to hxl last night who i could not understand a word of what they said. Im just gonna use this as an example but jas mumbled and grunted his way through his "show" last night....... he obviously didn't seem like he enjoyed it very much? ive heard this frm multiple people also that they can;t understand him and that he doesn't really have a dj voice lol :S
im sure there are many more like him but i cant think of their names

http://www.hffm.co.uk/ listen here and you will hear the djs talk loud and clear and go off the script off "playing this next shoutout and requests please" they were talking about the music and going to concerts etc lol

Yeh exactly. And isn't he a senior, so there may be bigger problems. I can't comment as I don't recall how he DJs, plus don't want to pick on people in public threads :P.

Also, play some music off the charts. I just tuned in and it was cringey Taylor Swift. Martin had more listeners streaming, probably because he doesn't play chart music (I don't think from what I remember of his tastes!)

[Richie]

What makes this hilarious is whilst we were having a debate in here for the last hour with habboxlive staff, whilst staff were chatting away on habbo, browsing the forum and having a chin wag on skype, Martin was still streaming lol. While all this was happening we were still debating whether habboxlive is really trying their best or not. It just doesn't add up lol.

[Foregetfuhl]

What makes this hilarious is whilst we were having a debate in here for the last hour with habboxlive staff, whilst staff were chatting away on habbo, browsing the forum and having a chin wag on skype, Martin was still streaming lol. Whilst all this was happening we were still debating whether habboxlive is really trying their best. It just doesn't add up lol.

I'm babysitting a screaming 3 year old whilst sorting out senior/head dj positions and trying to talk to the DJs about booking and going on air. If you would like you could go on air and DJ for an hour. :)

[sex]

which brings it back to the point as to why you have to FORCE your djs to go on air, if there is an open slot they should be offering.

[Richie]

I'm babysitting a screaming 3 year old whilst sorting out senior/head dj positions and trying to talk to the DJs about booking and going on air. If you would like you could go on air and DJ for an hour. :)

Martin lost connection and I connected until he got back. I would have stayed on for the hour but me being a lovely guy I have to run out of the room every few minutes to check on the dinner, then i have to much away on it down my mic, i don't think people want that. Lets see what the other 30 odd staff members have to say.

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which brings it back to the point as to why you have to FORCE your djs to go on air, if there is an open slot they should be offering.

thats the thing though pal. No one wants to go on air anymore, they don't seem to enjoy it. Which doesn't make sense because they're still here. I think a lot of them love having a chat in the staff forums as they have their own little 'groups' who they chat to and if they left they wouldn't have access to that, that's just a stab in the dark though :O

[Martin]

I think the problem is far more deep rooted than my streaming :P I think quality is something which really needs to be improved in some cases and I know Jade and Gina are working on this. Unfortunately things cannot turn around super quick, but I'm sure given a few more weeks things will improve lots! A lot of DJs just don't seem to have much passion in making their shows interesting and different.

Interacting with the listeners and making them feel like part of the show is a huge part of any radio, and it just seems lacking in some cases. Some of the microphone qualities are bad too, struggle to hear what people are saying sometimes which can be offputting.

Downtime also is offputting and gives a bad impression about habbox/habboxlive. Listeners want a radio they can rely on to be online as much as possible, if they return a few days later and its offline, chances are they might not bother again..
It is quite annoying when there are empty slots, or DJs UNBOOKING at the last minute, and there being a group msn chat trying to find someone to DJ and everyone is busy, although these convo's are MUCH smaller than they used to be, so perhaps we need more DJs, or more dedicated ones at that..


I quite enjoy streaming, but I don't enjoy it from habboxlive's perspective and the success of Habbox, because it simply shouldnt be the case at peak times during the day, I think some DJs need to work together as a team more, help each other out, go beyond the minimums, go beyond the call of duty to ensure that things pick up. One person/management team cannot change habboxlive completely- it involves hard work and lots of teamwork from everyone. Whether its active presence on the Habbo client, and making shows more interesting, or engaging with listeners more and gaining 'fans' and support, which hopefully will then return.



Yesterday evening I managed to gain the highest amount of listeners that had been gained all day, around 36, purely by streaming music. (weird/old music at that!- im not up with all this modern stuff haha) The thing which I think helped get listeners up was that I was in the helpdesk advertising and engaging with listeners in there. Thats still 36 people tuned in, which is better than 0 I guess. Similarly this evening I hit 30 which hadnt been done so far today.


The actual graph for listeners is slowly improving I think, based on similar fansites, we are doing poor, but not completely bad. There are quite often times where we are 2nd in terms of highest listeners, it can be improved a lot though.

I know Jade and Gina and putting in so much effort into things at the moment, there is a lot to sort out, DJs need to be more passionate again, We've already heard there will be changes and I think we should wait and see how things improve from this. I don't think its time to completely give up on habboxlive, there is still potential if everyone works as a team. A couple of weeks ago events were struggling, barely 1 event per day- now we have had a weekend with heaps of events for people to enjoy and it feels great!

I have full faith in Jade and Gina and think things will improve soon! Just hope everyone can support them too :)

[Grig]

Martin lost connection and I connected until he got back. I would have stayed on for the hour but me being a lovely guy I have to run out of the room every few minutes to check on the dinner, then i have to much away on it down my mic, i don't think people want that. Lets see what the other 30 odd staff members have to say.

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thats the thing though pal. No one wants to go on air anymore, they don't seem to enjoy it. Which doesn't make sense because they're still here. I think a lot of them love having a chat in the staff forums as they have their own little 'groups' who they chat to and if they left they wouldn't have access to that, that's just a stab in the dark though :O

There should be two things done then. Gauge enthusiasm and crack down on people not pulling weight or generally having a cba attitude and then cracking down on quality- starting from seniors, where from what I can see even a few of those aren't up to scratch.

There comes the problem then, if you get rid of them who will replace them. That's the problem. Good DJs don't go to Hx anymore- they go to HFFM or TH. This is the headache, which is another reason why there are no candidates within the department for int. manager nor Head DJ.

[Richie]

There should be two things done then. Gauge enthusiasm and crack down on people not pulling weight or generally having a cba attitude and then cracking down on quality- starting from seniors, where from what I can see even a few of those aren't up to scratch.

There comes the problem then, if you get rid of them who will replace them. That's the problem. Good DJs don't go to Hx anymore- they go to HFFM or TH. This is the headache, which is another reason why there are no candidates within the department for int. manager nor Head DJ.


I don't want to sound like a *** but that'd never happen. Habboxlive ever since I can remember has always had its 'clicks', take that girl kristie or w/e for example, about 4 threads in public forums were created about her not pulling her weight and she wasn't fired, i find it hard to believe being best buddies with logan was just a coincidence :P the cycle starts again whether any manager likes to admit it or not. I think sometimes management really need to assess each department and if they believe favouritism is occurring, they need to fix that.

[Grig]

I don't want to sound like a *** but that'd never happen. Habboxlive ever since I can remember has always had its 'clicks', take that girl kristie or w/e for example, about 4 threads in public forums were created about her not pulling her weight and she wasn't fired, i find it hard to believe being best buddies with logan was just a coincidence :P the cycle starts again whether any manager likes to admit it or not. I think sometimes management really need to assess each department and if they believe favouritism is occurring, they need to fix that.

In the case of Kristie, I was about to fire her but Logan didn't want me to. He said there would be no-one to "replace" her for the int. side. That was his own fault, as there were candidates but they left frustrated because they saw her not do much.

It needs to happen. Re-asses people in positions of power i.e. senior DJs etc. and see if they are up to standard. That and to not fear changing the structure in terms of a separate int. side. I'd much rather have less seniors/ DJs, than those who are pulling a broken train by being not up to scratch. Quality.

[Calvin]

I swear I've said this in every HabboxLive thread but there we go. Habbo radios are completely dying as people would rather listen into stations with more interesting DJs, not just ones that mention the next song (you can probably get an app which shuffles tracks and calls them out using the default voice).

If you want to keep the radio up then I would say just rebrand into a non-Habbo station, that way you can advertise to get more DJs that actually host a real good show and the DJs would actually advertise to their friends too without being embarrassed by the whole Habbo thing. If you don't want to re-brand it, then just scrapping it would be the better solution. :)

[Agnostic Bear]

I'm still surprised any of the habbox sites are going. It looks like the forum's community is entirely regular from old, and I don't see that lasting much longer.

How much longer until habbox closes? It fills a niche that doesn't exist anymore. Habbo fans are long gone and I don't see this website being profitable for much longer, if it even is at all. vip/donations can only maintain it for so long.

[Zak]

We don't actually have any heads at the minute we're currently deciding on who will get the position and a couple of the seniors have already booked Halloween events which is good (although I wish they would do 2/3 rather than 1 which is actually what I'm about to speak to them about right now! Just put my dirty laundry in the bin HAHA) but we're trying to push everyone if you get me? I know what I wanted and when I wanted it I just think Gina disagreed is all. Same with the staff song. I felt there was no need as we've only recently done a staff song.. but obviously with the serious changes in staff this was something that Gina wanted to do.

I may have! :o BUT IT WAS PACKED!!

I went on Thursday. It was awesome :D

[Kardan]

I'm still surprised any of the habbox sites are going. It looks like the forum's community is entirely regular from old, and I don't see that lasting much longer.

How much longer until habbox closes? It fills a niche that doesn't exist anymore. Habbo fans are long gone and I don't see this website being profitable for much longer, if it even is at all. vip/donations can only maintain it for so long.

Habbox Forum is doing relatively fine, if Habbox is still the main rare values site then that's fine, Habboxlive hasn't been good for a while now, so I wouldn't be surprised if that closes soon, HabboxWiki - do that many people even use it?

[Grig]

I'm still surprised any of the habbox sites are going. It looks like the forum's community is entirely regular from old, and I don't see that lasting much longer.

How much longer until habbox closes? It fills a niche that doesn't exist anymore. Habbo fans are long gone and I don't see this website being profitable for much longer, if it even is at all. vip/donations can only maintain it for so long.

The problem for Habbox in the past couple of years was in attracting new members. It's not like there's no base, ThisHabbo's userbase is 14 on average in terms of age. Habbox' is much much older, consisting of many users who have grown out of Habbo and use Habbox as a means of habit and staying in contact with friends.

In other words, it's filled with 50 year old men like MattG. HX needs to somehow find a way to youthen itself up, whilst still keeping its older clientele satisfied.

[Samantha]

I don't want to sound like a *** but that'd never happen. Habboxlive ever since I can remember has always had its 'clicks', take that girl kristie or w/e for example, about 4 threads in public forums were created about her not pulling her weight and she wasn't fired, i find it hard to believe being best buddies with logan was just a coincidence :P the cycle starts again whether any manager likes to admit it or not. I think sometimes management really need to assess each department and if they believe favouritism is occurring, they need to fix that.

Totally agree I think we'll I know I've favoured in the past at whichever department I managed as it was hard to see staff who had so much potential and experience decrease in activity. It's why when pming warnings I think it's best to say remember you can resign if you don't have enough time. Also with staff in the past I know howd they'd react if they were warned or fired, I'd have to do it unlike some managers believing they have a free ride. I did used to be more lenient on some staff but after they get promoted I think it should go, be stricter on them as they should know right from wrong and when they are pulling excuse after excuse. I don't favour at all, I treat myself equal to those of news reporter or any other staff member, the levels don't mean you're superior just have more work and roles to do.

[Abrood]

Hey,

Even though I haven't actually read all of the replies on this thread I pretty much get the jist of things here..
I do agree with what you say about the habboxlive staff not getting very involved and not jumping on air when they are supposed to, but some of the staff are trying their best to get involved and when they do they get shot down because "it's a stupid idea" or, " the listeners wont get involved", The listeners not being involved is quite a large problem for me, I'm always logging into sam and clicking 'Start encoder' to see if someone is DJ'ing if they arent I jump on air for the longest time I can but most of the time you get someone streaming when other DJ's could do the job and they just simply don't ask them if they want to DJ or not because they want to get their slots up or whatever.


I'm going a bit off topic here but I personally think that the habboxlive staff could definitely get more involved with a bunch of things.


Nugget x

[GoldenMerc]

Personally, HxL needs a total staff wipeout, fire all staff, then re-hire the ones worthy. When i was at HabbCrazy, as they have int managers also, Generally e.g the international manager would go on other hotels (b4 merge) and gain users doing giveaways etc, to hire more people. This would work for both the managers interests. But meh

[Richie]

Personally, HxL needs a total staff wipeout, fire all staff, then re-hire the ones worthy. When i was at HabbCrazy, as they have int managers also, Generally e.g the international manager would go on other hotels (b4 merge) and gain users doing giveaways etc, to hire more people. This would work for both the managers interests. But meh


Seems harsh but I agree with this. If someones quality isn't up to scratch sack them. I'm not talking FM quality I'm talking basic quality with some sort of personality. Perhaps re-access the whole department, those who don't meet the standards (that should never have been lowered) give them the boot.

[GoldenMerc]

This is the part where they have to be strict, If they arn't they are going to end up with 000's of inactive DJ's. Not going to lie its hard, Specially keeping track of 25 DJ's etc, but it should be twice a week making sure they are active.
Ross

[Richie]

This is the part where they have to be strict, If they arn't they are going to end up with 000's of inactive DJ's. Not going to lie its hard, Specially keeping track of 25 DJ's etc, but it should be twice a week making sure they are active.
Ross

Yeah man totally, don't get me wrong there is some really good ENTERTAINING presenters but then you have a few who just drag the whole thing down. When someone is boring and there only quality is online time I think it's time to really say, improve or goodbye.

[GoldenMerc]

If they have the confidence (which is needed in DJing) they will know they should / can re-apply...
That's the way i'd do it personally, as all the DJ's have a mentality to do jack all now, because they have got away with it for so long.

[Grig]

It's not about filling a timetable 24/7 at first, it's about getting quality, from quality listeners will rise, more people will apply etc.

[Foregetfuhl]

I know there is a quality issue. Myself and Gina have talked about this and are going to start speaking to certain DJs who we know are not up to par. This is an issue being treated as a priority personally to me and hopefully to Gina too. We're just going to get Halloween out of the way and focus on quality throughout the department starting Monday. Events thread is up to help them to do more things throughout their shows which Gina made and hopefully the listener interaction thread we are working on will also do some good for them. We may lose DJs who go on air 6-10 hours a day but at the end of the day I'd rather a DJ who can get 30 listeners by being enthusiastic and having a good quality mic/show than a DJ who can go on free-willy and DJ a tonne of nothing but poor quality radio shows.