portable devices

[scottish]

can we change the description of http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1338

so its aimed towards mobiles/tablets

seems a specific mod is going on a mad one moving everything into that forum (usb drives, hard drives, etc) probably to get mod logs up or something

alternatively tell him to chill the **** out

[Chris]

No ones gone mad...the threads that have been moved do belong in that forum since they are all portable devices.

[GoldenMerc]

can we change the description of http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1338

so its aimed towards mobiles/tablets

seems a specific mod is going on a mad one moving everything into that forum (usb drives, hard drives, etc) probably to get mod logs up or something

alternatively tell him to chill the **** out
chris tells you to move everything there pretty much, everything thats smaller than your hand = handheld, incls hard drives etc

[Lee]

A USB Drive is a portable device why shouldn't it be in that forum :P

[GoldenMerc]

A USB Drive is a portable device why shouldn't it be in that forum :P

Yeh but a hard drive isnt lol

[scottish]

Why does the forum state specifically no laptops then? as it's a mobile device.

A hard drive isn't always portable, theres various types of external hard drive, one being portable (typically smaller, no mains adapter).

This forum has always been used mainly for mobiles and tablets (pretty sure it used to be called something different or the description was different), now that he's here seems to be moving everything into that forum.

[Shar]

I do agree that the description is a bit iffy and it would be nice to have a more clear description of what a portable device is so there isn't as much confusion so that way there will be less threads being moved. And wouldn't it make sense to refer to a laptop as a portable device? Personal opinion.

[Martin]

I do agree that the description is a bit iffy and it would be nice to have a more clear description of what a portable device is so there isn't as much confusion so that way there will be less threads being moved

Yeah I agree with this as their could be some confusion. Especially considering a laptop is technically "portable" since you can carry it round with you and ting, yet its not considered one according to hxf, so I can easily see why people would think a harddrive wasnt too ;) Before its been pretty exclusive to mobiles, tablets etc, I think thats why laptops were left out etc, but could be wrong. It isn't really that clear what is/isn't classed as one at the moment anyway. :P

[scottish]

a hard drive isn't. lol

[Shar]

If hard drive's going to cause confusion it should be left alone and not be classed as a portable device under these circumstances imo

[scottish]

It should just be changed, pretty sure the forum used to have the description of something along the lines of mobiles, tablets and PDAs?

[Martin]

If hard drive's going to cause confusion it should be left alone and not be classed as a portable device under these circumstances imo


I think if a laptop isnt, then a hard drive certainly shouldnt be either :P

[Shar]

It should just be changed, pretty sure the forum used to have the description of something along the lines of mobiles, tablets and PDAs?
Something along those lines

[GoldenMerc]

may aswel push all xbox and console crap in there too

[scottish]

lol, should change it back to mobiles, tablets, PDAs then ;l when/why was it changed in the first place

[Chris]

I agree that laptops should be allowed to be posted in there. I don't know the exact reason why they're not posted in there, HotelUser; explained it all to me a while back but I honestly can't remember. Maybe he can answer that one.

The things I would consider to be portable devices would be: Laptops, usb drives, external hardrives, tablets, mobiles, cameras and any of the accessories that come with those things.

If we could come up with a list of what should and shouldn't be posted there then I can create a thread and make it more clear. :)

[Recursion]

Mobile devices, as in ones you carry with you in your bag or pocket (mobiles, PDAs, tablets) should be for that forum, nothing more, nothing less.

[scottish]

That's wrong though, not all hard drives are portable.

It should be changed back to mobiles, tablets and PDAs and left at that like it has been forever.

[Martin]

I agree that laptops should be allowed to be posted in there. I don't know the exact reason why they're not posted in there, @HotelUser (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=420); explained it all to me a while back but I honestly can't remember. Maybe he can answer that one.

The things I would consider to be portable devices would be: Laptops, usb drives, external hardrives, tablets, mobiles, cameras and any of the accessories that come with those things.

If we could come up with a list of what should and shouldn't be posted there then I can create a thread and make it more clear. :)

Yeah I think that would be a good idea, for moderators as well as members xD

Especially since that thread was posted on the 10th and was only just moved, when moderators should be actively reading the threads in their sections regularly and ting, so obviously there was a bit of confusion/uncertaintly somewhere down the line.

It seems odd that a laptop isnt considered a portable device, since it is basically a portable computer that you can take anywhere is it not? :P I've never got that one personally but yeah maybe someone can elighten us? xD

[Shar]

I agree that laptops should be allowed to be posted in there. I don't know the exact reason why they're not posted in there, @HotelUser (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=420); explained it all to me a while back but I honestly can't remember. Maybe he can answer that one.

The things I would consider to be portable devices would be: Laptops, usb drives, external hardrives, tablets, mobiles, cameras and any of the accessories that come with those things.

If we could come up with a list of what should and shouldn't be posted there then I can create a thread and make it more clear. :)
Sounds good to me, that would make it more clear. :)

[David]

oh dear

http://icap.me/i/lsa3Ke8HL5.png

yeah it should just be mobiles and such, otherwise stick all laptop threads in there..

[Martin]

oh dear

http://icap.me/i/lsa3Ke8HL5.png

yeah it should just be mobiles and such, otherwise stick all laptop threads in there..

Thats a good point too, seems they made an error with the moving :P

[scottish]

he vm'd me saying its moved, didn't even move it, then vmed me when it had moved then he left that on it lol

[Chris]

Mobile devices, as in ones you carry with you in your bag or pocket (mobiles, PDAs, tablets) should be for that forum, nothing more, nothing less.

So that would include all the things I mentioned? You do carry those in your bag or pocket :P


That's wrong though, not all hard drives are portable.

It should be changed back to mobiles, tablets and PDAs and left at that like it has been forever.

Well it clearly hasn't been like it forever otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion. :P

[David]

if it was up to me i'd remove the sub forum altogether

[scottish]

No it would be mobiles, PDAs and tablets.

Keep it like that, it was like that forever until god knows who changed it whenever, change it back

do something right for a change ;l

[Chris]

No it would be mobiles, PDAs and tablets.

Keep it like that, it was like that forever until god knows who changed it whenever, change it back

do something right for a change ;l

When you say do something right, do you mean do exactly what you want? I'm not saying no, I'm just trying to get an idea of what things are considered portable and what things aren't. :P

[GoldenMerc]

I agree with dave and his crap cat, remove the sub forum, Its barely popular, just have one nice section for tech, everyones happy.

[scottish]

When you say do something right, do you mean do exactly what you want? I'm not saying no, I'm just trying to get an idea of what things are considered portable and what things aren't. :P

no i mean do something right.

the only idea you need for portable items are tablets, mobiles and PDAs. everything else is tech discussion (if you can manage, you can decide on ipods/anything similair!)

[mrwoooooooo]

the sub forum is fine

but a topic about moving a file from an ipod touch to a computer is not a thread that goes in portable devices. the main point of the thread is the file, not the ipod :¬:

[lawrawrrr]

It's fine as it is. You can't just say 'tablets, mobiles and PDAs' 'cos loads of other stuff goes in there; USB drives, music players, some portable external hard drives, cameras, other technology that's small... The forum desc says 'not laptops' so I don't really see what the big problem is ;s

[scottish]

the problem is a laptop is portable, and some threads moved to it are not and samm just seems to move anything

[Recursion]

The problem here is a lack of common sense. A HDD, USB stick or what have you shouldn't be in portable devices. Portable Devices should be for Tablets, Mobile phones, PDAs, portable consoles or whatever that serve more than one function.

Or in the iPod Touch case above, it's talking about the file, not the iPod, and as such should have been left in Technology.

Just get rid of the damned sub forum IMO.

[Kardan]

The problem here is a lack of common sense. A HDD, USB stick or what have you shouldn't be in portable devices. Portable Devices should be for Tablets, Mobile phones, PDAs, portable consoles or whatever that serve more than one function.

Or in the iPod Touch case above, it's talking about the file, not the iPod, and as such should have been left in Technology.

Just get rid of the damned sub forum IMO.

This.

A TV remote is a portable device, but it shouldn't go in that forum. Tablets, mobiles and PDAs are fine.

[scottish]

see everyone agrees Chris;

change it to mobies, pdas and tablets or delete it

[Chris]

If it's going to be restricted to just those things then I don't see the point in it at all. I'll remove it later tonight, I'm just busy sorting other issues at the moment. Thanks for the feedback! :)

[Martin]

I personally don't think that the main tech discussion forum is THAT busy tbh, and neither is the portable devices subforum so having it as one forum for all makes sense really considering activity is probably lower than it was etc. Would prevent confusion and stuff too.

[mrwoooooooo]

I personally don't think that the main tech discussion forum is THAT busy tbh, and neither is the portable devices subforum so having it as one forum for all makes sense really considering activity is probably lower than it was etc. Would prevent confusion and stuff too.
in that case then i dont think any of the forums are THAT busy :p

[Martin]

in that case then i dont think any of the forums are THAT busy :p

ikr may as well merge every forum into one "DISCUSS EVERYTHING" forum init!!


nah, that is true, but I guess it just varies from case to case really. Like in the past I can imagine having a sub forum for phones etc would have been useful and stuff, especially for people who are into phones and ting, but im also thinking that the actual tech discussion forum was a lot busier back then.

I guess it doesnt really matter which way it goes since they will still be used the same either way, might just block out a bit of navigation which could be good for people noticing threads about phones more and replying I guess if theyre not hidden away in a subforum

[David]

merge tourism and fashion into discuss anything

[Chris]

All sorted. David; Nah we're not merging those.

[scottish]

can you unsticky the iphone ringtone guide from 2010

[HotelUser]

I wouldn't be against merging Portable Devices into the general technology forums, but as for the distinction between a portable device and a non-portable device I think it's already clearly defined as it is.

A laptop is more portable than a desktop but it should be clear as to why it's not worthy of being posted in the "portable devices" forum. A "classic" laptop isn't small enough and *often* has too poor battery life to be really considered a really portable device. Tablets and sub-notebooks are often smaller and have better battery life, and are designed to be more portable than a laptop. You can pull out a tablet such as the Nexus 7 from your pocket and use it instantly. You cannot within reason pull a full sized laptop out of your pocket and realistically use it instantly like you can with a tablet. If laptops were to be posted in portable devices then we would see posts about 17" laptops with no battery life and clear lack of pocket portability being posted along side small cellular handsets. As aforementioned merging the forums together would make this alright, but so long as portable and non-portable forums exist, seeing both these devices being posted along side each other seems highly impractical.

Portable devices should be (provided that it's not merged) left to tablets, phones, peripherals and that sort of thing. Subnotebooks/netbooks (10-13 inches) are fine to be posted in portable devices as well. Hybrid laptops shouldn't be posted in portable devices unless they're of a small form-factor. The same would apply to embedded systems.

@Kardan If you were to post something about a television remote control than it's logical that it would fit into portable devices. Take luxury remote controllers such as the Logitech Harmony (http://www.logitech.com/en-ca/remotes/universal-remotes) remote. A discussion on such a device is concevable, and would definitely belong best in the portable devices forum. If you were making a thread about how you bought a TV and lost the remove and need to know about Sony's warranty policy on replacing remotes than you could make a good argument that such a post belongs in the general Technology forum because the base device of the topic at hand is the TV set and not the remote, as well as being about Sony's warranty policy. The distinction here between portable and non-portable seems clear to me!

At first glance the distinction between a portable device and a non-portable device might be confusing to some folks, but if you apply common sense to justifying where to make your post, then it isn't so complicated at all. Take hard disks for instance: External hard disks belong in portable devices because they're designed to be portable, designed to be external. Internal hard disks wouldn't be considered portable devices because their intended location of use is within a machine. Adapters to make external hard disks portable would belong in portable devices because this is an portable external peripheral.

edit: @Recursion what!? I thought it was fairly obvious as to why a thumb drive is a portable device. You can literally store them inbetween your toes if you're wearing socks :P

[Lee]

Don't see why it was removed it was fine as it was. And David; I don't really see the need for that general seems to be working as it is... Managements favourite quote tends to be "Why fix something that isn't broken" however as proved in this thread that seems to be as and when it suits them.

[The Don]

Don't see why it was removed it was fine as it was. And David; I don't really see the need for that general seems to be working as it is... Managements favourite quote tends to be "Why fix something that isn't broken" however as proved in this thread that seems to be as and when it suits them.

it clearly is broken otherwise there wouldn't be a feedback thread complaining about it..

[Lee]

it clearly is broken otherwise there wouldn't be a feedback thread complaining about it..

Don't see how this thread means that it's broken - everybody is entitled to their opinion and managements usual reply is as I said above.

[Chris]

Don't see why it was removed it was fine as it was. And David; I don't really see the need for that general seems to be working as it is... Managements favourite quote tends to be "Why fix something that isn't broken" however as proved in this thread that seems to be as and when it suits them.

If it was something that didn't need changing then there would never have been a feedback thread for it. I'm glad it was brought up actually because they were completely right. Why have a sub forum for such a limited amount of things when we can save the confusion of what goes where and just have them in one place?

[HotelUser]

If it was something that didn't need changing then there would never have been a feedback thread for it. I'm glad it was brought up actually because they were completely right. Why have a sub forum for such a limited amount of things when we can save the confusion of what goes where and just have them in one place?

Although I previously said I wouldn't mind the merge (and I don't mind the merge), in response to the bolded part here:

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=763374

;)

[Chris]

Although I previously said I wouldn't mind the merge (and I don't mind the merge), in response to the bolded part here:

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=763374

;)

I was expecting you to disagree with it actually so you did surprise me :P

But yeah, thanks for that David! We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

[Chippiewill]

Needed changing in my opinion as I always forgot the forum was even there, if I wanted to read technology threads I'd just end up skipping them.

[HotelUser]

I was expecting you to disagree with it actually so you did surprise me :P

But yeah, thanks for that David! We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

Though I remain largely indifferent to this decision I do wish to convey this piece of advice from my experience in dealing with the forum, as well as developing scripts for Habbox: More times than not, in order to please one person you'll have to disappoint another, and so by acting too rash, you may end up causing a bigger problem then the one you tried to correct in the first place. A well thought and informed decision, is the best sort of decision you can make (and don't take some folk's negativity the wrong way) :)

[Chippiewill]

I would actually agree that Chris does appear eager to improve the forum and in doing so is a little fast to push the button to change stuff without properly consulting and thinking a decision through.

[scottish]

I agree but he done something right for a change (could of done better by changing it to tablets/pdas/mobiles only)

[Recursion]

The only thing it was good for was hiding the obnoxious Apple fanboy threads... not gonna lie.

[efq]

Glad it's gone, only made my life harder :'(

[Stephen]

not if you had common sense :whistle:

[efq]

not if you had common sense :whistle:
Common sense doesn't always work around a particular few arrogant people http://i.imgur.com/MwflK.png

[mrwoooooooo]

Common sense doesn't always work around a particular few arrogant people http://i.imgur.com/MwflK.png
no-ones being arrogant apart from you

[efq]

no-ones being arrogant apart from you
Yeah ok if you say so darling :clap:

[mrwoooooooo]

Yeah ok if you say so darling :clap:

point proven, talking down to people. you seem to think you're untouchable because of your mod status

[efq]

point proven, talking down to people. you seem to think you're untouchable because of your mod status
No not really. As you've seen lately I'm not afraid to talk my mind, regardless of whether it jeopardises my position here, some of you need to face the truth and face reality of how you act and what you are sometimes.

[mrwoooooooo]

No not really. As you've seen lately I'm not afraid to talk my mind, regardless of whether it jeopardises my position here, some of you need to face the truth and face reality of how you act and what you are sometimes.
being right doesnt = being arrogant

[David]

i agree with the decision


No not really. As you've seen lately I'm not afraid to talk my mind, regardless of whether it jeopardises my position here, some of you need to face the truth and face reality of how you act and what you are sometimes.

list "some of you"

[efq]

i agree with the decision



list "some of you"
After feedback from quite a few members of the forum yesterday after the heated arguments, I am not the only one who agrees that a small minority of the members are bullies and have felt intimidated once in their time here because of those particular people, or even driven away. This even applies to members of staff and myself in the past.

Obviously I won't list who they are but I'm pretty certain everyone has a rough idea who they are. I'm ending this discussion here. Any other problems then take it up with management.

[scottish]

applies to members of staff as in they were 'bullies' or they were driven away?

I don't remember you bullying anyone, altho you did have a security team who was going to track down buttons; for giving out a fake IP or something

[efq]

applies to members of staff as in they were 'bullies' or they were driven away?

I don't remember you bullying anyone, altho you did have a security team who was going to track down buttons; for giving out a fake IP or something

They were bullied, some for the whole time whilst here.

That was complicated and exaggerated to an extent but it had some truth to it. I came back and apologised for all that. Although my Grandfather in relation to that passed away this New Year's Day, so I'd prefer to forget all that please?


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[Jordan]

Thread closed as the original problem has been sorted and is starting to go off topic.