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-:Undertaker:-
23-11-2012, 10:49 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9700001/Foster-parents-stigmatised-and-slandered-for-being-members-of-Ukip.html

Foster parents 'stigmatised and slandered’ for being members of UKIP

A couple had their three foster children taken away by a council on the grounds that their membership of the UK Independence Party meant that they supported “racist” policies.


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02408/ukip_2408419b.jpg
The couple from near Rotherham who had the children they were fostering taken away after it was discovered they were supporters of UKIP


The husband and wife, who have been fostering for nearly seven years, said they were made to feel like criminals when a social worker told them that their views on immigration made them unsuitable carers.

Speaking to The Daily Telegraph, the couple said they feared that there was a black mark against their name and they would not be able to foster again.

Last night campaigners representing foster parents described the decision as “ridiculous” and warned that it could deter other prospective foster parents from volunteering.

Nigel Farage, the leader of UKIP, described the actions of Rotherham borough council as “a bloody outrage” and “political prejudice of the very worst kind”.

Tim Loughton, the former children’s minister, said: “I will be very concerned if decisions have been made about the children's future that were based on misguided political correctness around ethnic considerations.

"Being a supporter of a mainstream political party is not a deal-breaker when it comes to looking after children if it means they can have a loving family home.”

The couple, who do not want to be named to avoid identifying the children they have fostered, are in their late 50s and live in a neat detached house in a village in South Yorkshire.

The husband was a Royal Navy reservist for more than 30 years and works with disabled people, while his wife is a qualified nursery nurse.

Former Labour voters, they have been approved foster parents for nearly seven years and have looked after about a dozen different children, one of them in a placement lasting four years.

They took on the three children — a baby girl, a boy and an older girl, who were all from an ethnic minority and a troubled family background — in September in an emergency placement.

They believe that the youngsters thrived in their care. The couple were described as “exemplary” foster parents: the baby put on weight and the older girl even began calling them “mum and dad”.

However, just under eight weeks into the placement, they received a visit out of the blue from the children’s social worker at the Labour-run council and an official from their fostering agency.

They were told that the local safeguarding children team had received an anonymous tip-off that they were members of UKIP.

The wife recalled: “I was dumbfounded. Then my question to both of them was, 'What has UKIP got to do with having the children removed?’

“Then one of them said, 'Well, UKIP have got racist policies’. The implication was that we were racist. [The social worker] said UKIP does not like European people and wants them all out of the country to be returned to their own countries.

“I’m sat there and I’m thinking, 'What the hell is going off here?’ because I wouldn’t have joined Ukip if they thought that.

"I’ve got mixed race in my family. I said, 'I am absolutely offended that you could come in my house and accuse me of being a member of a racist party’.”

The wife said she told the social worker and agency official: “These kids have been loved. These kids have been treated no differently to our own children. We wouldn’t have taken these children on if we had been racist.

”The boy was taken away from them the following day and the two girls were removed at the end of that week."

The wife said the social worker told her: “We would not have placed these children with you had we known you were members of UKIP because it wouldn’t have been the right cultural match.”

The wife said she was left “bereft”, adding: “We felt like we were criminals. From having a little baby in my arms, suddenly there was an empty cot. I knew she wouldn’t have been here for ever, but usually there is a build-up of several weeks. I was in tears, although not in front of the social worker.”

Her husband added: “If we were moving the children on to happier circumstances we would be feeling warm and happy. To have it done like that, it’s beyond the pale.”

The couple said they had been “stigmatised and slandered”.

A spokesman for Rotherham metropolitan borough council said last night: “After a group of sibling children were placed with agency foster carers, issues were raised regarding the long-term suitability of the carers for these particular children.

"With careful consideration, a decision was taken to move the children to alternative care. We continue to keep the situation under review.”

UKIP was once considered a single-issue fringe party but is now part of Britain’s political mainstream, with some recent national polls putting its support as high as twelve per cent.

Its manifesto includes a demand for Britain to pull out of Europe and to curb immigration. It is also critical of multiculturalism and political correctness.

The party has three peers in the House of Lords, all defectors from the Conservatives, and 12 MEPs, although it has never won a seat in the Commons. It has a candidate in next week’s by-election in Rotherham.

Mr Farage said: “I am outraged politically and very upset for them. I think this is the kind of thing where we need some sort of decree from a Government minister that UKIP is not a racist party.

“This is political prejudice of the very worst kind. It is just a bloody outrage.”

He pointed out that UKIP has a black candidate in the forthcoming Croydon North by-election.

David Goosey, the chairman of the trustees at Community Foster care, an independent fostering charity, said: “If this is accurate and there are no other extraneous matters that have concerned the authorities, then it is completely ridiculous and no self-respecting authority should be stopping people fostering on the grounds of their membership of Ukip.”

Nushra Mansuri, of the British Association of Social Workers, said: “My first question would be, does the local council have a clear equality policy so you can understand a bit more about the decision-making?

“Otherwise it’s very difficult to fathom.”

I heard of this news story earlier in the week from somebody in UKIP, hopefully it'll work against Labour in the Rotherham by-election but what matters more is the plight of the foster parents.

The racist UKIP policy on immigration? a five year blanket freeze (but allowing work permits) followed by an Australian type system which would treat white Eastern Europeans who currently are allowed in no matter what the same as those from the rest of the world including the black Commonwealth nations and brown Indian doctors and nurses - if anything, the current system is 'racist' as it gives Europeans (educated or uneducated) automatic right of access over those who are educated who just happen to live elsewhere.

So the message is, if you think we ought to have some form of control over immigration into this country and believe that white European migrants ought to be treated the same as black Africans or brown Indians and Arabs (as UKIP does) - then apparently you are a nasty little racist.

So much for liberty or even democracy, let alone common sense.

Thoughts?

Chippiewill
23-11-2012, 10:52 PM
Let's not ignore either the council's vested interest in discouraging support of UKIP.

GommeInc
23-11-2012, 11:57 PM
I'm more worried by the fact that these people are involved in a social service - if they think UKIP is a racist party then they really need to learn to do research - which given the importance of in a council is really shocking, they should be very good at it. Christ knows who they let look after children if they do not know what research is, because they will find UKIP isn't a racist party, but then against this seems unsurprising as quite a lot of councillors are complete imbeciles these days.

-:Undertaker:-
24-11-2012, 12:07 PM
The Telegraph, Guardian and the Mail + others are now running as their front stories, Sky News has picked it up now;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HiwCMcR2jx8

The Labour Party have rightly called an investigation and Michael Gove has labelled it 'indefensible'; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20476654

xxMATTGxx
24-11-2012, 12:15 PM
I may not be a UKIP supporter or anything like that but what the hell? Get your foster kids taken off you for supporting one of the parties is ridiculous.

The Don
24-11-2012, 12:41 PM
The Telegraph, Guardian and the Mail + others are now running as their front stories, Sky News has picked it up now;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HiwCMcR2jx8

The Labour Party have rightly called an investigation and Michael Gove has labelled it 'indefensible'; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20476654

I was shocked to see it on the BBC news this morning

Chippiewill
24-11-2012, 04:14 PM
On reflection I think you do have to be careful in this situation, we do not know all the facts. It's entirely plausible that the council had other grounds for removal of the children. On face value it seems ridiculous, however the bar to be a fosterer was already fairly high with any manner of small details preventing you from fostering.

-:Undertaker:-
24-11-2012, 04:22 PM
On reflection I think you do have to be careful in this situation, we do not know all the facts. It's entirely plausible that the council had other grounds for removal of the children. On face value it seems ridiculous, however the bar to be a fosterer was already fairly high with any manner of small details preventing you from fostering.

Andrew Neil (BBC presenter) dealt with this point on Twitter, pointing out that Joyce Thacker (head of the Social Service for Children in Rotherham) stated that the foster parents being members of UKIP was the reason why the children were removed. It really doesn't get any deeper or more complicated than that, they've admitted it and stupidly dug the hole deeper for themselves.


Andrew Neil ‏@afneil

Assumed story about Rotherham removing kids from foster parents because they were UKIP was tabloid hyperbole. It's 100% true. Astounding.

http://order-order.com/2012/11/24/progressive-culture-war-caused-rotheram-ukip-child-catcher/


Rotherham Social Services said “We would not have placed these children with you had we known you were members of UKIP because it wouldn’t have been the right cultural match.”

A Royal Navy reservist for 30 years and works with disabled people, wife a qualified nurse and both been foster parents for 7 years with no problems... until the council (in its own words) was 'tipped off' (Soviet language to me) that they were members of UKIP.

A purely disgusting political decision using children as political pawns and let's hope we see heads roll on this one.

..and i'm glad to see the central Labour Party and Ed Miliband MP and Michael Gove MP have come out against the council on this one.

-:Undertaker:-
24-11-2012, 09:14 PM
Just to add, just seen this - I can't believe it.


The row took a further twist when No 10 was asked about statements David Cameron made during a radio interview in 2006, in which he described Ukip's members as "fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists, mostly". Downing Street said the Prime Minister had not intended people to understand that he thought all Ukip members were racists.

A step in the right direction, as well as from Mr. Miliband.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzR3uLeO4NU

..as well as Michael Gove's response.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/9700632/Michael-Gove-blasts-Ukip-foster-row-council.html


Mr Gove said: "Rotherham's reasons for denying this family the chance to foster are indefensible. The ideology behind their decision is actively harmful to children. We should not allow considerations of ethnic or cultural background to prevent children being placed with loving and stable families. We need more parents to foster, and many more to adopt.

"Any council which decides that supporting a mainstream UK political party disbars an individual from looking after children in care is sending a dreadful signal that will only decrease the number of loving homes available to children in need. I will be investigating just how this decision came to be made and what steps we need to take to deal with this situation."

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIxy56qJvNs

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