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karter
06-12-2012, 03:11 PM
On Tuesday, New Yorkers awoke to a gruesome New York Post cover photo. The photo, which fills most of the page, depicts a man trapped on the New York City subway tracks, awaiting an oncoming train that would eventually take his life.

“Pushed on the subway track, this man is about to die,” the headline says. The victim appears to be trying to climb up as he looks toward the oncoming train. Below the victim, appears one word: “DOOMED.”

The decision has sparked outrage across the Internet, raising questions about journalism ethics. The story also has touched off a debate about whether bystanders — including the photographer — should have done more to help Ki-Suck Han, a 58-year-old from Queens, N.Y., who was allegedly pushed onto the tracks Monday afternoon.

“Someone needs to be fired for this @Nypost cover. It's classless, cruel and completely void of all integrity. You should be ashamed,” tweeted @ JasFly.

Others singled out the photographer.

“Wow! enough time to take a few pictures. Why didn't the person help? … What an age we live in when getting the picture is more important! I am appalled,” Joseph Monte wrote in a comment on the Post’s website.

Han attempted to get back onto the platform, the Post reported, but was crushed between the side of the platform and the train, which could not stop in time. Witnesses have indicated the man who pushed Han appeared to be disturbed and had frightened other riders as they waited on the subway platform.

Police have released a video that shows Han and another man arguing on the platform before the incident. Police said Tuesday they were questioning a 30-year-old man in connection with Han’s death and that he had implicated himself in the attack. No charges were expected to be announced before Wednesday.

The photographer, in particular, has been singled out for criticism.

The Post reported that one of its freelance photographers, R. Umar Abbasi, had been on the platform of the station at West 49th Street and 7th Avenue. Abbasi told the Post that he attempted to warn the operator by rapidly firing off his flash.

“I just started running, running, hoping that the driver could see my flash,” Abbasi told the Post.

Abbasi said others on the platform also ran toward Han and the train after he was pushed.

Marc Cooper, a professor at the USC Annenberg School for Communication and Journalism, said many people had rushed to judgment without a full understanding of the facts.

“Those who are outraged that the cameraman did not save his life need to ask themselves what they would have done and what they could have done,” Cooper said. “Because from what I have seen, I am not convinced that the photographer could have saved his life.”

Cooper said that if the photographer could have helped Han, he was obviously morally bound to do so, rather than snap a photo. But the outrage at the Post’s decision to run the photo “seems misplaced” unless their photographer actually could have saved Han’s life, Cooper said.

Although the headline was sensational, the photo has news value, Cooper said, because “it makes us think how we treat others and what our toleration of violence is.”

“If we live in a society where people are pushed to death in a subway over a silly argument, then I am in favor of documenting that and showing that in all the horror that it is,” he said. “Journalists do not shy away from depicting horror because there is horror.”

Some journalists took a different view on Twitter. On Tuesday, the Poynter Institute published a post that provided a roundup of comments from journalists.

“Sickening rubber-necking front page from the New York Post. Imagine how this man's family feels,” Ian Prior, sports editor at the Guardian newspaper in London, tweeted.

“that NY Post cover doesn't seem necessary at all...” Charlie Warzel, a digital media reporter for Adweek magazine, tweeted.


The Post Cover

http://www.trbimg.com/img-50be946b/turbine/la-na-nn-ny-post-cover-train-death-20121204-001/600

Source : http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ny-post-cover-train-death-20121204,0,2844391.story

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I don't really know what disgusts me, the fact that people throw strangers in front of trains over petty issues, or some person who thinks taking a picture of this incident might be more important than helping the person, or the journalist who seems to be making a joke of this accident.

Doughnut
06-12-2012, 04:05 PM
So I'm assuming he died?

Meh. It's so sad that I'm beginning to get used to seeing these sort of things..
Yeah, the photographer may not have had a chance to save him, but if he tried then who knows. Him trying would have been better than taking photos... I really hope these sort of things stop.

karter
06-12-2012, 04:16 PM
So I'm assuming he died?

Meh. It's so sad that I'm beginning to get used to seeing these sort of things..
Yeah, the photographer may not have had a chance to save him, but if he tried then who knows. Him trying would have been better than taking photos... I really hope these sort of things stop.

Yes, he died when he was crushed between the platform and the train. The photographer said he couldn't have saved him anyway, but that does not justify taking pictures and selling them to a newspaper.

Doughnut
06-12-2012, 04:25 PM
Yes, he died when he was crushed between the platform and the train. The photographer said he couldn't have saved him anyway, but that does not justify taking pictures and selling them to a newspaper.

Ah ok.
RIP to him then.


But like, the photographer could have atleast done SOMETHING to help, even if he couldn't save him. Even trying to offer a hand would be better than taking pictures.
If I was in the dead guys position, I'd feel alot better if someone came over instead of staring at me

Sian
06-12-2012, 04:26 PM
I bet the photographer could have saved him, when you look at the picture if the camera man decided to put the camera down and run to the guy he probably would have saved him.

******* ridiculous and disgusting, didn't think the press would ever stoop that low.

Munex
06-12-2012, 04:30 PM
At first I thought it was suicide, and in that case, I think it's fine. If people choose to kill themselves in such a traumatic way for onlookers to see, why should they have privacy from the press.

The fact this man was pushed and was (rightfully) fearing for his life is just appalling. "This man is about to die", "DOOMED"; the wording is disgusting...

I would like to think that I'd try to help the man, but you have to remember that:

1) The train may have be frightfully near; the man may pull you down as opposed to you pulling him up.
2) The man was apparently in a fight and may have been intimidating.
3) It could all happen so fast that you haven't got the time to think.

I imagine everyone will say they would help him, but until you've been in such a frantic situation, you just don't know how you'd react.

xxMATTGxx
06-12-2012, 04:34 PM
I feel sorry for the friends and family of the man in the picture to be honest. Knowing that was the last photo taken of him being alive.

Doughnut
06-12-2012, 04:36 PM
I feel sorry for the friends and family of the man in the picture to be honest. Knowing that was the last photo taken of him being alive.

I really do agree with this.

Must be so hard for them

Red
06-12-2012, 04:40 PM
Don't know how anyone could sit and take a photo, while someone's life was hanging in the balance. ;/ and using that photo is so distasteful.

Stephen
06-12-2012, 05:10 PM
Ah ok.
RIP to him then.


But like, the photographer could have atleast done SOMETHING to help, even if he couldn't save him. Even trying to offer a hand would be better than taking pictures.
If I was in the dead guys position, I'd feel alot better if someone came over instead of staring at me

ngl I wouldn't offer a hand

OMG IVE SAVED HIM!!! then you look down and it's his severed arm

buttons
06-12-2012, 05:15 PM
so had enough time to get his camera out and make sure he got a shot but not to put his arm out to wave down the train?? :( :( poor thing

Inseriousity.
06-12-2012, 05:18 PM
that headline is really crass like the reporter's intention was to go 'hahaha man overboard.' It doesn't matter whether he was beyond help. Photographing someone's attempts to escape death rather than at least trying to help is sick and distasteful.

OldLoveSong
06-12-2012, 06:00 PM
I'm kinda iffy about this. I mean the why is it just the photographer being blamed? Anyone else could have helped the man, such as the one who was fighting with the guy or any other bystanders. But I also get that they could have put their life in danger as well trying to help the man get out.

karter
06-12-2012, 06:19 PM
I'm kinda iffy about this. I mean the why is it just the photographer being blamed? Anyone else could have helped the man, such as the one who was fighting with the guy or any other bystanders. But I also get that they could have put their life in danger as well trying to help the man get out.

the guy was taking pictures of it happening, taking pictures of a man dying on tracks. and then he shamelessly passed on the photographs to the newspaper

GommeInc
06-12-2012, 06:34 PM
That's rather grim. Not sure why they printed the photo and the photographer probably could of saved him - he whipped out a camera and decided it would be a good idea to take photos anyway.

Samantha
06-12-2012, 07:27 PM
The photographer could have attempted to help him but then again the image didn't need to be published on a newspaper, surely the paper could have used their common sense and saw that it was distasteful for such image to be used and instead gone along with something else. The heading I find rather disturbing, I think the image speaks louder than the headline but we can't really tell if something could have been done to help him. The photographer could have had a deadline, but surely a life is much more important even if you're not successful at it at least you tried, some people I know in thoe situations would be fearless and not consider possible consequences but in this case he wasn't.

CrazyColaist
06-12-2012, 09:27 PM
if you tried to help him and if you grabbed him while the train went over him you would of gone with him too. so win/loose situation.

GommeInc
06-12-2012, 10:15 PM
if you tried to help him and if you grabbed him while the train went over him you would of gone with him too. so win/loose situation.
True, but it doesn't really answer why the picture was used or why he even took the photo :P It's all really distasteful both on the side of the photographer and the paper.

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