Habbox Hub

[Yupt]

THIS IS NOT ANOTHER "REPLACE HXHD" SUGGESTION, READ ON AND UNDERSTAND.

Right ok. Just an idea really, and i'll try make it really easy to understand.

I think instead of having HxHD as the main Habbox Centre on the Habbo client, we should have an all together larger scale room with far more going on. Now, my proposal is that HxHD is included in this room as part of the "Hub" as it could be known as. I think Habbox should concentrate on creating one of those rooms that is popular 24/7 on the client, I don't think this can be done with a help desk, there simply aren't that many people who need help and those who use it as a lounge are existing members of Habbox.

The room would be large and exciting, with lots happening and many things to enjoy. For example, obviously in a corner would be the helpdesk. Elsewhere could be a swimming area, a bar, a start to a maze, seating (obviously), a park, quest furni (If they still do that). Just generally make a room where people will be happy to spend lots of time in and it attracts users for a number of different reasons.

As well as creating just a really popular room you could have teleports to the Event Organisers rooms and link them together, making the Habbox Community. You could also have bots names "Events" and "Competitions" who can advertise what's happening throughout the day, or what competitions are on.

For those too lazy to read all of that, here it is nice and simple.
-Redevelop HxHD into a larger scale "Habbox Hub"
-Habbox Hub would attract users from all areas of the game and make a popular room for everyone
-Habbox Hub through its popularity can advertise the fansite.

Basically yeah. Obviously the idea to replace HxHD with a "Habbox Lounge" has been discussed to death, but I believe that this is a method that could work for both sides, old and new.

I also think that if Habbo aren't going to help fan sites like they used to then we need to change something serious such as this. We often complain that "it isn't like how it used to be" but we never really do anything about that.

This is not all thought through, there may be faults and disagreements but I feel it needs to be looked at!

DISCUSS.

[Samantha]

In all fairness many times I've been in the Help Desk and I've seen normal members asking the person who needs help what they want as they'res no one helping. Of course this changes sometimes but really I usually say no to stuff like this but maybe it's needed, after all the Help Desk provides a lot of people with lottery tickets, sometimes content departments can't really advertise as much but you could do if it focused on more than one thing as at the moment it's just a process of, post in a thread with a design, get chosen, change design, etc. then do something like a grotto or haunted house for seasonal events when it could be something occurring all year. I think what would help would be automatic games perhaps? So it could still be popular even when others aren't in.

[Yupt]

In all fairness many times I've been in the Help Desk and I've seen normal members asking the person who needs help what they want as they'res no one helping. Of course this changes sometimes but really I usually say no to stuff like this but maybe it's needed, after all the Help Desk provides a lot of people with lottery tickets, sometimes content departments can't really advertise as much but you could do if it focused on more than one thing as at the moment it's just a process of, post in a thread with a design, get chosen, change design, etc. then do something like a grotto or haunted house for seasonal events when it could be something occurring all year. I think what would help would be automatic games perhaps? So it could still be popular even when others aren't in.

I was never wanting to remove hxhd, just redevelop it. Make it a part of the Hub. Obviously this would need to be clearly shown in the room name or description otherwise people who are looking for a help desk will never find it.

"Habbox Hub - Lounge, Help Desk and Community" or something.

You get the jist.

[Zelda]

The thing is in my opinion, are the sort of people who would go to beaches and bars etc the sort of people who would actually use a fansite? like arent most of them noobs and zeds lmao.

also a maze might be ok but then people won't really be staying in the entrance at all they'd just sorta go in to come out again.

I dno though if interesting things could be created for it it might be interesting but the things that would be inside it would definitely have to appeal to them and not just attract a bunch of noobs with no interest in actually using the fansite.

[Samantha]

I was never wanting to remove hxhd, just redevelop it. Make it a part of the Hub. Obviously this would need to be clearly shown in the room name or description otherwise people who are looking for a help desk will never find it.

"Habbox Hub - Lounge, Help Desk and Community" or something.

You get the jist.

Not saying get rid of it, I'm just following on your point that not many use it for what's it intention is anymore. I think it does need to redevelop a bit.

[Inseriousity.]

I have been thinking of something similar but feel that the room needs to have a primary purpose that will bring the people in rather than the multiple suggested. I think if you were to do it multiple that it wouldn't really work. A room called 'Habbox Hub' doesn't really advertise anything to those people wanting a maze, help desk, bar etc!

I like the idea of using bots to advertise things, I've seen this used quite well in Dragga's event.

[Aiden]

It's an interesting idea and it could work. It just depends if Habbox Management want to spend the time, effort and credits on it. Although if there was a lobby then it could ink to other rooms already made like the Maze by Zak or Red's room with the stuff or hatever lol.

[Yupt]

The thing is in my opinion, are the sort of people who would go to beaches and bars etc the sort of people who would actually use a fansite? like arent most of them noobs and zeds lmao.

also a maze might be ok but then people won't really be staying in the entrance at all they'd just sorta go in to come out again.

I dno though if interesting things could be created for it it might be interesting but the things that would be inside it would definitely have to appeal to them and not just attract a bunch of noobs with no interest in actually using the fansite.

But those are the people who Habbox needs to be attracting, it may sound silly but if we don't get them in then that's the large majority of the Habbo community we're just ignoring. They'll learn at Habbox as well. You had to admit it, I learnt to type a hell of a lot better due to Habbo!

Regarding the maze, that was something I thought of whilst writing the thread itself. But as long as people are coming in, that's better than nothing. IT gets the popularity up. Plus they may come in and stick around. Half the time maze start rooms are just people sat on the pillows between rollers just chatting!

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It's an interesting idea and it could work. It just depends if Habbox Management want to spend the time, effort and credits on it. Although if there was a lobby then it could ink to other rooms already made like the Maze by Zak or Red's room with the stuff or hatever lol.

Exactly, it should link everything. Like the centre of Habbox. I think it's worth the time and effort to be honest, if it works.


I have been thinking of something similar but feel that the room needs to have a primary purpose that will bring the people in rather than the multiple suggested. I think if you were to do it multiple that it wouldn't really work. A room called 'Habbox Hub' doesn't really advertise anything to those people wanting a maze, help desk, bar etc!

I like the idea of using bots to advertise things, I've seen this used quite well in Dragga's event.

I know the multi purpose thing is difficult to get right, which is why I think it's important that you make sure that everything is clearly explained in the room name or desc.

[Zelda]

But those are the people who Habbox needs to be attracting, it may sound silly but if we don't get them in then that's the large majority of the Habbo community we're just ignoring. They'll learn at Habbox as well. You had to admit it, I learnt to type a hell of a lot better due to Habbo!

But they aren't going to be bothered by habbox, they gonna come in and go to the bar and beach without any care tbh. Half of those people will be too young to understand anyway and will just want to play to role play and to be honest we should be at least trying to attract people who would actually have some interest. Tbh even if u stuck a group gate to stop them getting into those areas I dont think it would even make any difference.

[Yupt]

But they aren't going to be bothered by habbox, they gonna come in and go to the bar and beach without any care tbh. Half of those people will be too young to understand anyway and will just want to play to role play and to be honest we should be at least trying to attract people who would actually have some interest. Tbh even if u stuck a group gate to stop them getting into those areas I dont think it would even make any difference.

The 8 year old noobs with no interest in Habbox, I agree, would be very annoying. But they're getting the room popular, that's the key thing, putting the name forward so people who would be interested could see it.

Habbox is meant to be for everyone, we can't just pick and choose who we want to use the site.

[Zelda]

The 8 year old noobs with no interest in Habbox, I agree, would be very annoying. But they're getting the room popular, that's the key thing, putting the name forward so people who would be interested could see it.

Habbox is meant to be for everyone, we can't just pick and choose who we want to use the site.

the problem there though is that there is only a maximum of 50 for the room, first you needa consider that people who already want to use the help desk atm will be in there, and then how popular rooms like these beaches can be. If you are attracting all these 8 year old noobs to make the room popular, you aren't leaving much room for many other people to actually come in to be attracted towards Habbox, while if we target the room towards those people in the first place we will be allowing for many more people in the room who would become attracted towards Habbox.

[Yupt]

the problem there though is that there is only a maximum of 50 for the room, first you needa consider that people who already want to use the help desk atm will be in there, and then how popular rooms like these beaches can be. If you are attracting all these 8 year old noobs to make the room popular, you aren't leaving much room for many other people to actually come in to be attracted towards Habbox, while if we target the room towards those people in the first place we will be allowing for many more people in the room who would become attracted towards Habbox.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. I can hardly see how having a room that it too popular could be an issue in this circumstance. What we have to be aware of is the fact that these "8 year old noobs" are the next generation of people who will eventually use habbox.

[Zelda]

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. I can hardly see how having a room that it too popular could be an issue in this circumstance. What we have to be aware of is the fact that these "8 year old noobs" are the next generation of people who will eventually use habbox.

The thing is though they are the only people beaches and bars will attract etc, no matter how popular the room is why would anyone go into it if there is nothing in there to interest them?

+ not necessarily tbh, as yes you stereotype them as 8 year old noobs, but infact a lot of people over different ages are zeds, and most of them never change from it really as they grow up, yes some possibly will but why not target people with immediate effect and who are much more likely to want to join habbox?

Not to mention that rooms that target people who will likely join will probably be far easier to populate compared to like a beach as they have very massive competition

[Yupt]

The thing is though they are the only people beaches and bars will attract etc, no matter how popular the room is why would anyone go into it if there is nothing in there to interest them?

+ not necessarily tbh, as yes you stereotype them as 8 year old noobs, but infact a lot of people over different ages are zeds, and most of them never change from it really as they grow up, yes some possibly will but why not target people with immediate effect and who are much more likely to want to join habbox?

Not to mention that rooms that target people who will likely join will probably be far easier to populate compared to like a beach as they have very massive competition

I think it's necessary even if we have to have that sort of crowd around. Worst case scenario is that we've gone from a help desk filled with noone to a hub filled with noobs. At least the name is out there.

edit; regarding the room, its not meant to be specific to anything. My idea was that it would have a little bit of everything, where you can spend your time. Plus, it's not like Habbox haven't tried targeting people who want to join.

[Mikey]

I think the whole idea of the room being used for different things aswell, maybe half help desk and half for like events that the Habbox Community usually runs like the Saturday Night Quiz, The Lottery, Even once in a while normal events and like the sleepover/longest in the box type thing.

[Red]

I personally hate this idea and don't really fancy spending my time in that style of room such as the habbo beach or habbo adoption full of 10 year olds. If you want a habbox hub fine, but I don't want the help desk to be shoved in with that.

[BigtimeRyan]

I think there should be a big room and there should be entertainment and interest for the whole hotel. This will bring new members to the habbox community. The room could contain a booster and maybe a grabber and the help desk which would attract users. Don't blame me if this ideas terrible I'm so tired :P

[Mark]

I partly agree with you, HxHD is just attracting current Habbox members and the staff are increasingly there just to moderate rather than help - purely because there's not that many people who need help. I love the idea of a Habbox Hub however maybe have one or two of your suggested ideas as if there is a mass amount going on in the room it will get laggy and hard to moderate (if someone at one end of the room isn't shouting - pressing shift - Help Desk staff won't see what they're saying). Maybe have a Battle Banzai or something along those lines, quest help including the staff being able to assist as well as teleports linking all the other Habbox rooms etc.
In all fairness, this could only boost the Habbox community so I don't see why this idea isn't put into effect sooner rather than later.

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I personally hate this idea and don't really fancy spending my time in that style of room such as the habbo beach or habbo adoption full of 10 year olds. If you want a habbox hub fine, but I don't want the help desk to be shoved in with that.

I don't think either of those things were suggested lol, it's just having something going on in HxHD rather than having it neglected with the odd new person coming in asking how to get a trading pass while older members just chat every so often.
I think even having a few teleports and bringing back the BB game would do some good. I remember Danube made a HxHD Layout (although hated) he put the helpdesk area in the middle of the room in stead of shifting it to a corner or wall, this would be ideal for moderating said game, event, start of a maze whatever.

[Yupt]

Indeedy. I'm not sure if people picked up on this, but in the original post, the things that could go in the room were only ideas, and I wasn't saying put them ALL in there. One or two just to keep the room popular as the main habbox centre.

The teleports and more rooms is actually an important thing. Habbox need rooms like those Habbo Gym's that make you better at skating, riding and what not. They're always popular, connect that to the Hub with a tele, people will venture in.

The Hub was just an idea to centralise Habbox activity on Habbo really, whilst also reinventing the help desk for the more modern generation of Habbo users.

[scottish]

crap idea and puts the currently active people off the help desk.

[Yupt]

crap idea and puts the currently active people off the help desk.

What currently active people. It's rare to see the help desk get over 15 people in. And normally most of them are AFK members of staff who got bored because there's no event. Those who come on habbo to just chat to friends can still do so.

[Red]

What currently active people. It's rare to see the help desk get over 15 people in. And normally most of them are AFK members of staff who got bored because there's no event. Those who come on habbo to just chat to friends can still do so.

I disagree, their has been a tournament on for the last couple of week but usually its the desk that is popular and events struggle to get the people in.

[scottish]

What currently active people. It's rare to see the help desk get over 15 people in. And normally most of them are AFK members of staff who got bored because there's no event. Those who come on habbo to just chat to friends can still do so.

well now for example theres 12 people in there, of which every single member is a 'regular'

Changing HxHD into some room full of idiots who are there solely for the prize and no intention of joining the community and/or begging for furni is going to put everyone off

Changing HxHD at all will just put whichever loyal visitors are left off, I know myself if HxHD changed into some crappy gaming room I'd rather leave it and I've been using the help desk since 2004..

Yes the help desk doesn't reach the max numbers but why the hell should it, it's a help desk not a room with the aim to get full.. for years it's had a few people who need help and mainly regulars who enjoy chatting without the aforementioned idiots.

[Yupt]

well now for example theres 12 people in there, of which every single member is a 'regular'

Changing HxHD into some room full of idiots who are there solely for the prize and no intention of joining the community and/or begging for furni is going to put everyone off

Changing HxHD at all will just put whichever loyal visitors are left off, I know myself if HxHD changed into some crappy gaming room I'd rather leave it and I've been using the help desk since 2004..

Yes the help desk doesn't reach the max numbers but why the hell should it, it's a help desk not a room with the aim to get full.. for years it's had a few people who need help and mainly regulars who enjoy chatting without the aforementioned idiots.

Valid point. But I don't exactly see swarms of people joining Habbox anymore.

Since writing the original post, I admit that it's probably best not to fill the room with exciting things that will attract the noobs, but I still think that it should be made into a Hub, less emphasis on the desk, more emphasis on connecting all of Habbox together and making it the central zone for Habbox.

And you ask why it should get a full room: because HxHD has always been the on client base for Habbox, it's meant to represent it. (that's not phrased very well, but I can't think of the appropriate words). Also, I have been around HxHD since 2005/6 and I know that it used to be a hell of a lot busier than it is now.

[scottish]

Valid point. But I don't exactly see swarms of people joining Habbox anymore.

Since writing the original post, I admit that it's probably best not to fill the room with exciting things that will attract the noobs, but I still think that it should be made into a Hub, less emphasis on the desk, more emphasis on connecting all of Habbox together and making it the central zone for Habbox.

And you ask why it should get a full room: because HxHD has always been the on client base for Habbox, it's meant to represent it. (that's not phrased very well, but I can't think of the appropriate words). Also, I have been around HxHD since 2005/6 and I know that it used to be a hell of a lot busier than it is now.

HxHD was a lot busier in 2005/6 because habbo was a lot busier in 2005/6.

You don't see swarms of people joining Habbo either, so consequently same is going to apply for every fansite

While we're at it why not compare the what 20 active listeners of HxL to the 300+ in 05/06?

HxHD works fine for it's purpose, to help people. Anytime someone comes in usually someone will aid them and there'll usually be 5-15+ people in there chilling/chatting.

HxHD isn't the on client base for Habbox, some department had their own, HxL would always have their DJs in a room, HxE would have event rooms for example.

[Yupt]

HxHD was a lot busier in 2005/6 because habbo was a lot busier in 2005/6.

You don't see swarms of people joining Habbo either, so consequently same is going to apply for every fansite

While we're at it why not compare the what 20 active listeners of HxL to the 300+ in 05/06?

HxHD works fine for it's purpose, to help people. Anytime someone comes in usually someone will aid them and there'll usually be 5-15+ people in there chilling/chatting.

HxHD isn't the on client base for Habbox, some department had their own, HxL would always have their DJs in a room, HxE would have event rooms for example.

I have nothing to say about the radio because I have no knowledge in that area nor would I know how to help it.

HxHD will still be there, still offering help and still providing a service, I merely wish to see development around it to bring in what we can.

HxHD is the only room to be open or in use 24/7, events rooms and DJ partys are only really busy during their time period. It would be really good to connect it all into one room tho, via teleport. THAT is the main thing I'm trying to put across.

[scottish]

I have nothing to say about the radio because I have no knowledge in that area nor would I know how to help it.

HxHD will still be there, still offering help and still providing a service, I merely wish to see development around it to bring in what we can.

HxHD is the only room to be open or in use 24/7, events rooms and DJ partys are only really busy during their time period. It would be really good to connect it all into one room tho, via teleport. THAT is the main thing I'm trying to put across.

So you want someone on to change the teleporters every hour to the appropriate dj/event? :S

[Zelda]

What Scott said basically, be very awkward to keep changing Tele each hour, and u can't just keep the teles always there as some people might not use group rooms for their event or frequently change rooms, (I definitely did myself) and keeping them all would make for a very messy room anyway, and rather confusing unless teles went around edge of a 700 tile room with stickies above them

[Yupt]

So you want someone on to change the teleporters every hour to the appropriate dj/event? :S


What Scott said basically, be very awkward to keep changing Tele each hour, and u can't just keep the teles always there as some people might not use group rooms for their event or frequently change rooms, (I definitely did myself) and keeping them all would make for a very messy room anyway, and rather confusing unless teles went around edge of a 700 tile room with stickies above them

This was just a general idea that could be introduced with or without habbox hub.

I was thinking more along the lines of 1 Tele leads from HxHD to an "Events hallway" where the tele's to the events room are kept, (each eo has one). When the EA is hosting an event s/he turns their specific tele in the hallway round so it's accessible (the others would not be) and go from there. That's really not much effort.

I don't know how group furni works so I can't really comment on that.

[scottish]

then you don't need to turn habbox into a hub you stick a tele in the help desk... but all thats gonna happen is people still enter the room via the actual room and not the 'hub' lol

[Zelda]

Yep completely pointless, takes less time to search habbos and then go to the event lmao... I never even check calender or cnb cause that is the easiest way by far

[Yupt]

then you don't need to turn habbox into a hub you stick a tele in the help desk... but all thats gonna happen is people still enter the room via the actual room and not the 'hub' lol


Yep completely pointless, takes less time to search habbos and then go to the event lmao... I never even check calender or cnb cause that is the easiest way by far

It was an additional idea on top of Hub. And, not trying to sound rude, but the idea wasn't meant to benefit you, it was meant to get people into HxHD. Random event goers who just want to play the game will wonder in and find the help desk. This does seem to work before you say "why would they do that". In the past when we've linked the rooms everyone seems to explore and the room tends to stay busy for a long period of time.

[Zelda]

It was an additional idea on top of Hub. And, not trying to sound rude, but the idea wasn't meant to benefit you, it was meant to get people into HxHD. Random event goers who just want to play the game will wonder in and find the help desk. This does seem to work before you say "why would they do that". In the past when we've linked the rooms everyone seems to explore and the room tends to stay busy for a long period of time.

They'll wander around and most likely leave straight out of the desk again, and they'll generally stay in the event whole its still on anyway. Tbh though they will walk in and think oh this is nice, but since I don't know anyone in here and I don't need any help, ill go stalk my friend instead. Doing that will maybe provide some people who wander in, but they will nearly all leave as soon as they came in reality.

[Yupt]

They'll wander around and most likely leave straight out of the desk again, and they'll generally stay in the event whole its still on anyway. Tbh though they will walk in and think oh this is nice, but since I don't know anyone in here and I don't need any help, ill go stalk my friend instead. Doing that will maybe provide some people who wander in, but they will nearly all leave as soon as they came in reality.

That is the general intention.

As I said previously, when it was done previously the room was very popular.

[scottish]

Previous times it was done (such as chawk/nadia/kirstea/freds game) the main room was locked (main room being event room) for the majority of the event from what i remember.

[Reloaded]

Its been tryed and asked for many a times in the last 5/6 years and it just doesnt work. And this is coming from someone who used to always campaign for it to be a lounge and not a help desk. HxHD is that old now that it would be a crime to get rid of it, it would be like taking the soul of habbox from habbo.

[Andii]

I sorta agree :) we need to make hxhd more appealing to get people in and jan the newbies are the people we need to join Habbox and get them interested in a fan site why wouldn't we want them??? They are a fan sites main target audience to get new people in and join ye community, I also agree with having like a hub idea with doors taking you to different game rooms like a maze :)

[Mark]

I think the least that could happen from this thread would be to centralise all the Habbox rooms in HxHD. So having teleports to the likes of Zak's maze and the trade city.

[Zelda]

^ that would probably be a good idea really, but I definitely think the events hallway and everything is going way to far

[Samantha]

So people would prefer noobs not to go in the Help Desk yet that's its intention as it usually helps new people. I think people need to remember we were all noobs once. Trial something out, if it doesn't work at least we can say we attempted to make it fresher and more modern.

[Red]

So people would prefer noobs not to go in the Help Desk yet that's its intention as it usually helps new people. I think people need to remember we were all noobs once. Trial something out, if it doesn't work at least we can say we attempted to make it fresher and more modern.

That isn't what we are saying, since a lot of them do come in for help. What people don't want is the help desk being stuck amongst a habbo beach room with people shouting any1 need a bf?????

[Zelda]

I know for one that as a regular person sitting in ther i wouldnt be going in there anymore really if it was full of zeds roleplaying constantly, i'd rather just go afk in my own room tbh. There is a difference between noobs who might join habbox and noobs who wont be interested at all and a beach being in the room will only mean they just stand there roleplaying and not paying any attention to the fact the room is even owned by habbox.

[Samantha]

Why is everyone set on that we could only have a beach in there, you'd be better off doing the hallway thing, linking to official rooms etc.

[Yupt]

I thnk people are focussing too much on the fact I wrote the word "beach". That was just an example of something because I dont play habbo enough to know whats popular, my main focus is that it would be a community room.

[xxMATTGxx]

We could easily have a section for teleporters in the next design of the HxHD to be honest. Seeing as people seem to like that part of the idea. Or even spilt it so it has some sort of game on the other side if we stick with the larger room layout. Maybe.

[Yupt]

We could easily have a section for teleporters in the next design of the HxHD to be honest. Seeing as people seem to like that part of the idea. Or even spilt it so it has some sort of game on the other side if we stick with the larger room layout. Maybe.

Realistically, where can you see these teleports going? I would like to see habbox owning popular rooms connected to hxhd but most people seem to be against this.

what can you see happening?

[Absently]

Honestly I just think the room would be too hectic and about getting new members I know that during the recent tournament a lot of new members joined up to habbox. I honestly think just having the help desk and events get the habbox name out there. Also, I spend a lot of time in the helpdesk and it always seems popular to me, minus at non peak times like midnight and early in the day where habbo itself is not very popular so I think some people should spend some more time there before saying it's not popular when they are rarely there

[Samantha]

Honestly I just think the room would be too hectic and about getting new members I know that during the recent tournament a lot of new members joined up to habbox. I honestly think just having the help desk and events get the habbox name out there. Also, I spend a lot of time in the helpdesk and it always seems popular to me, minus at non peak times like midnight and early in the day where habbo itself is not very popular so I think some people should spend some more time there before saying it's not popular when they are rarely there

Yeah really, at the moment I've seen events with a lot of new players in, I mean I've had people stalk me saying 'when's the next event, can you host one?' As they're that excited and eager to play and win. I know it could appear hectic but you could always have a weekly event in there? Or a fortnightly one whereby you take an hour (set a game area out) and just have an event in there. Like you do with the lottery but with an event. I know it's happened before and it worked well in some cases.

[Yupt]

Honestly I just think the room would be too hectic and about getting new members I know that during the recent tournament a lot of new members joined up to habbox. I honestly think just having the help desk and events get the habbox name out there. Also, I spend a lot of time in the helpdesk and it always seems popular to me, minus at non peak times like midnight and early in the day where habbo itself is not very popular so I think some people should spend some more time there before saying it's not popular when they are rarely there

I agree in the fact that the tournament wad very good and that is a great route to take, and Hxhd is sometimes busy but only ever with te same people.