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God
09-01-2013, 09:38 PM
Ok so basically I bought the 2nd computer listed and one of they key's broke off it. It was under the 30 month full return/exchange from the store so I got my mom to take it in to replace the key or to exchange it for the asame model. I come back a after school to find that shes gotten me the same computer model and that but it has a AMD A8 4500m prossecsor and a Radeon Graphics but with only `750 Gbs of memory. The other one was Intel i5-3210m peossecor and 1000gbs of memory. Im not very good with computer knowlage so could u take a look at specs and that and tell me which one is better please.

HP Pavilion g6-2284ca
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-5296082-5317009.html?dnr=1

HP Pavilion g6-2254ca
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-5296082-5341454.html?dnr=1

zombies
09-01-2013, 09:44 PM
er the first one :)

mrwoooooooo
09-01-2013, 09:47 PM
Second one

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Recursion
09-01-2013, 09:48 PM
Second one.

hamheyelliot
09-01-2013, 09:50 PM
Depends on what you're looking for, if you're looking for general oomph go for the Intel model. On the other hand, the AMD one should let you run some fairly recent games on at least normal settings at 30fps+

Really depends on what you use a laptop for on a daily basis!

God
09-01-2013, 09:53 PM
Its going to be used for playing habbo, facebook, email and habbox ofc. The computers are the same price

Chippiewill
09-01-2013, 10:20 PM
Second one is better, the first one only has marginly better graphics, the CPU of the second demolishes the second by a ton and has slightly more hard drive space to boot. There's also less bloatware on the second and a better wifi card.

Lee
09-01-2013, 10:32 PM
Second one is better, the first one only has marginly better graphics, the CPU of the second demolishes the second by a ton and has slightly more hard drive space to boot. There's also less bloatware on the second and a better wifi card.

The second demolishes the second?

Lewiis,
09-01-2013, 11:05 PM
I think either of those laptops will handle what you want to use them for with no issues. If I was going to choose though then the second one !

Chippiewill
10-01-2013, 06:26 PM
The second demolishes the second?

demolishes the first. Shaddup.

Habbz
10-01-2013, 06:35 PM
second

lawrawrrr
10-01-2013, 06:49 PM
they're not much different to be honest and both will EASILY handle what you want to do so there's barely any difference for you to worry about. I prefer AMD cores because they've always been nicer to me, so I'd go for that one but like I said they're not noticeable different unless you're going to use it for hardcore gaming in which case AMD would be better.

Chippiewill
10-01-2013, 07:46 PM
I prefer AMD cores because they've always been nicer to me, so I'd go for that one .

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Don't get the AMD one.

lawrawrrr
10-01-2013, 10:56 PM
"The expression anecdotal evidence refers to evidence from anecdotes. Because of the small sample, there is a larger chance that it may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases.[1][2] Anecdotal evidence is considered dubious support of a claim; it is accepted only in lieu of more solid evidence."

Don't get the AMD one.

AMD generally do make better processors than Intel, my past 2 intel drives have both failed on me as soon as I install and try to play my games. For a laptop (because of the combined harddrive/graphics card) AMD has quite a lot of advantages, and Intel HARDLY lets you upgrade anything else - I've bought a new graphics card for my AMD-based laptop but if I got the Intel one I was planning on to start with I couldn't be doing that now as there's no extra slots for that and no possibility for upgrade. I do agree that Intel IN GENERAL make better processors, but you have to pay a lot more, AMD do better low-end cores than intel do.

mrwoooooooo
10-01-2013, 11:15 PM
AMD generally do make better processors than Intel, my past 2 intel drives have both failed on me as soon as I install and try to play my games. For a laptop (because of the combined harddrive/graphics card) AMD has quite a lot of advantages, and Intel HARDLY lets you upgrade anything else - I've bought a new graphics card for my AMD-based laptop but if I got the Intel one I was planning on to start with I couldn't be doing that now as there's no extra slots for that and no possibility for upgrade. I do agree that Intel IN GENERAL make better processors, but you have to pay a lot more, AMD do better low-end cores than intel do.
You're wrong. Please stop now before you embarrass yourself further.


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lawrawrrr
11-01-2013, 12:00 AM
You're wrong. Please stop now before you embarrass yourself further.


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Well I'm not because I COULDN'T upgrade my last intel drivers on my laptop but there is room for a separate dedicated graphics card with my current AMD laptop... and they're facts.

Scania
11-01-2013, 12:44 AM
AMD generally do make better processors than Intel, my past 2 intel drives have both failed on me as soon as I install and try to play my games. For a laptop (because of the combined harddrive/graphics card) AMD has quite a lot of advantages, and Intel HARDLY lets you upgrade anything else - I've bought a new graphics card for my AMD-based laptop but if I got the Intel one I was planning on to start with I couldn't be doing that now as there's no extra slots for that and no possibility for upgrade. I do agree that Intel IN GENERAL make better processors, but you have to pay a lot more, AMD do better low-end cores than intel do.

Are you serious?!

AMD haven’t been at the top of their game in the processor world for quite some time. When they first announced their bulldozer range they were supposed to compare to Intel’s sandy bridge processors but they failed at doing that. Intel processors have always been better for quite a while and you can see this by looking at benchmarks running various tests and running the latest games.

You said “Intel HARDLY lets you upgrade anything else” – What do you mean by that? I have a custom built PC with an Intel CPU and I can upgrade anything in my PC with ease. It would also be the same case if I had an AMD processor setup as well. In terms of laptops – You can’t just pull out components and start replacing them at all, the only “real” upgrade a user could technically do is the ram and the hard drive. You can’t start replacing graphics cards or anything like that – That’s possible in desktops but not laptops. You also state that you have room in your laptop for a dedicated graphics card – I doubt that very much.


AMD sell processors a lot cheaper than Intel and that is a fact. But in terms of performance, Intel CPU’s normally win. Especially when it comes down to gaming.

lawrawrrr
11-01-2013, 12:56 AM
Are you serious?!

AMD haven’t been at the top of their game in the processor world for quite some time. When they first announced their bulldozer range they were supposed to compare to Intel’s sandy bridge processors but they failed at doing that. Intel processors have always been better for quite a while and you can see this by looking at benchmarks running various tests and running the latest games.

You said “Intel HARDLY lets you upgrade anything else” – What do you mean by that? I have a custom built PC with an Intel CPU and I can upgrade anything in my PC with ease. It would also be the same case if I had an AMD processor setup as well. In terms of laptops – You can’t just pull out components and start replacing them at all, the only “real” upgrade a user could technically do is the ram and the hard drive. You can’t start replacing graphics cards or anything like that – That’s possible in desktops but not laptops. You also state that you have room in your laptop for a dedicated graphics card – I doubt that very much.


AMD sell processors a lot cheaper than Intel and that is a fact. But in terms of performance, Intel CPU’s normally win. Especially when it comes down to gaming.

yes when you have a lot of money and a PC an intel processor is probably the better choice. which is what i said.

God
11-01-2013, 02:55 AM
Ahh so many different answers. Internet and you guys mostly are with Intel but the futureshop dude says that this one is better. The computer look exactly the same but different specs and that. Ink tbhh. Immaculate return this one adjust wait till round summer when they do another clearout
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mrwoooooooo
11-01-2013, 04:41 PM
Well I'm not because I COULDN'T upgrade my last intel drivers on my laptop but there is room for a separate dedicated graphics card with my current AMD laptop... and they're facts.

no they're not. you're wrong.

Teabags
11-01-2013, 05:58 PM
The computers are the same price
the second one is better, but it's $100 more?

Stephen!
11-01-2013, 06:28 PM
First for gaming, second for everything else

lawrawrrr
12-01-2013, 01:22 AM
no they're not. you're wrong.

they're not what? limited to updgrade-ability? Yes they are.

Chippiewill
12-01-2013, 01:27 AM
Looking for upgradability in a laptop for something other than RAM or hard drives is a very silly idea

mrwoooooooo
12-01-2013, 10:05 AM
they're not what? limited to updgrade-ability? Yes they are.

what laptop do you have?

lawrawrrr
12-01-2013, 02:28 PM
Looking for upgradability in a laptop for something other than RAM or hard drives is a very silly idea

Most of the time it's limited graphics capability people want to upgrade in a laptop, because you can't custom build them.


what laptop do you have?

HP Pavilion dv6 currently. My old intel one was a Dell something or other and was just terrible.

Chippiewill
12-01-2013, 02:33 PM
Most of the time it's limited graphics capability people want to upgrade in a laptop, because you can't custom build them.
Any upgradable notebook would be a rip off since they'd end up spending development money on adding that capability to the motherboard and any graphics card you can put in will be way overpriced anyway.

Also Intel / AMD isn't going to make any determination on graphics upgradability, that's firmly in the realms of the notebook's manufacturer.

lawrawrrr
12-01-2013, 03:06 PM
Any upgradable notebook would be a rip off since they'd end up spending development money on adding that capability to the motherboard and any graphics card you can put in will be way overpriced anyway.

Also Intel / AMD isn't going to make any determination on graphics upgradability, that's firmly in the realms of the notebook's manufacturer.

Well it's not because low-end Intel drives and low-end AMD drives are completely different, and for the most part (as far as I'm aware, anyway), the Intel drives have rubbish, built-in graphics cards and no slots for a dedicated one, whereas the low end AMD drives usually have better drives or available slots.

Chippiewill
12-01-2013, 03:54 PM
Intel integrated graphics are not terrible for the low end.

mrwoooooooo
12-01-2013, 05:40 PM
HP Pavilion dv6 currently. My old intel one was a Dell something or other and was just terrible.

not like i needed to know this to tell you, but you can't upgrade the graphics on it.

and most people who buy laptops dont buy them for their graphics power


the Intel drives have rubbish, built-in graphics cards and no slots for a dedicated one, whereas the low end AMD drives usually have better drives or available slots.
intel dont usually make the motherboards, but you can also get laptops with an intel cpu and an nvidia gpu.

seriously please stop pretending you know about this -.-

lawrawrrr
12-01-2013, 05:47 PM
not like i needed to know this to tell you, but you can't upgrade the graphics on it.

and most people who buy laptops dont buy them for their graphics power

I was originally told i could update it because it's a dedicated card; not that i'm saying you're wrong because after a quick search you're probably right. In any case (I'm backtracking, so what?) the Radeon graphics are wwwwwiiiiideeelllyyyyyy regarded as better.

I don't pretend I know everything about 'this stuff' but I'm not exactly ******ed. Like you said people who buy laptops don't USUALLY buy them for graphics power, just like the O/P and that's really the only difference between the two laptops.

mrwoooooooo
12-01-2013, 05:48 PM
In any case the Radeon graphics are wwwwwiiiiideeelllyyyyyy regarded as better.

better value for money sure, not better

lawrawrrr
12-01-2013, 05:49 PM
better value for money sure, not better

i was under the impression we were talking about low-end laptops which pretty much by definition have low-end components

Chippiewill
12-01-2013, 06:24 PM
I was originally told i could update it because it's a dedicated card.

Dedicated card != up-datable. It just means it's not integrated onto the motherboard.

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