Argentina 'will control Falklands within 20 years'

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The Falkland Islands will be back under Argentine control within "20 years", the country's foreign minister Hector Timerman has said.

On a visit to London, he claimed "not one" other nation supported UK sovereignty of the Falklands.

Speaking to the Guardian and Independent, Mr Timerman said Britain had "occupied" the islands for "access to oil and natural resources".

A referendum on the Falkland Islands political status will be held in March.

Mr Timerman was meanwhile confronted by elected representatives of the Falkland Islands in the House of Commons Lobby on Tuesday.

The foreign minister refused to accept a letter about the future of the Islands or to talk to the representatives.

He was in the Commons to address the All Party Group on Argentina.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21341578#TWEET584825


I can't see it happening. If the people on the island want to remain British then it should British. I've always said that from the start - More crap coming out of Argentina.

[dbgtz]

Speaking to the Guardian and Independent, Mr Timerman said Britain had "occupied" the islands for "access to oil and natural resources".

So by saying that, they don't want it for those things... Anyway, doesn't all (or most) of the money from those natural resources remain with the islanders?

Either way it's just another empty statement meant to distract the general public.

[-:Undertaker:-]

The threat doesn't come from the outside (Argentina), as with so many things the real threat comes from our own political class as was revealed in the plans by Blair and his Ministry to hand over Gibraltar to the Spanish; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2090845/Tony-Blair-signed-secret-deal-Gibraltar-Spain.html. When you consider the state and weakness of our political class back in the 1960s and 1970s, had Thatcher not won in 1979 I think it's almost assured that we wouldn't have sent in a Naval taskforce and would have surrendered to Argentina as we did with the IRA in Northern Ireland in 1998.

I would have Britain fight to hell and back to defend her sovereignty over Gibraltar, the Falklands and any other British territory.

[GommeInc]

The Foreign Minister seemed a bit of an ignorant sod. No one knew there was oil around the Falklands until recently, and last I checked there was no strong demand as there is today with oil and such resources back in the mid-1800s, so the man is making as much sense as a silent cat fart, but the benefits of those is that they're silent.

[karter]

I like how Britain talks about how the Falkland Islands residents chose to be British when in 1968, they expelled people of Diego Garcia Island and robbed off their lands to allow USA make a military base there. They continue to fight for their rights and trying to save their vanishing culture.

I do not support Argentina but in my opinion, this excuse is invalid.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I like how Britain talks about how the Falkland Islands residents chose to be British when in 1968, they expelled people of Diego Garcia Island and robbed off their lands to allow USA make a military base there. They continue to fight for their rights and trying to save their vanishing culture.

I do not support Argentina but in my opinion, this excuse is invalid.

That was wrong of course, very wrong, and I think the case is near being settled (?). But every nation makes mistakes and Britain is one of them, take the one you're in now as another example - India illegally invaded and annexed independent Hydrabad and the Portugese possessions back in the 1950s and 1960s.

[karter]

That was wrong of course, very wrong, and I think the case is near being settled (?). But every nation makes mistakes and Britain is one of them, take the one you're in now as another example - India illegally invaded and annexed independent Hydrabad and the Portugese possessions back in the 1950s and 1960s.

A majority of population of disputed Kashmir in India want to remain Indians but India doesn't toss this excuse everywhere to avoid and ridicule talks.

No resident was expelled from these states either and the Portugese and Hyderabadi cultures still flourish as of today.

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please don't even try because i can say a lot on that matter

[Wig44.]

The threat doesn't come from the outside (Argentina), as with so many things the real threat comes from our own political class as was revealed in the plans by Blair and his Ministry to hand over Gibraltar to the Spanish; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2090845/Tony-Blair-signed-secret-deal-Gibraltar-Spain.html. When you consider the state and weakness of our political class back in the 1960s and 1970s, had Thatcher not won in 1979 I think it's almost assured that we wouldn't have sent in a Naval taskforce and would have surrendered to Argentina as we did with the IRA in Northern Ireland in 1998.

I would have Britain fight to hell and back to defend her sovereignty over Gibraltar, the Falklands and any other British territory.
At any cost to human life of course...

I'm sure you wouldn't be the one doing the fighting either. Luckily Argentina poses no threat to our army, in which case I think we should send in troops, but I think you're very wrapped up in your own world. I guess when you leave home...

[-:Undertaker:-]

At any cost to human life of course...

I'm sure you wouldn't be the one doing the fighting either. Luckily Argentina poses no threat to our army, in which case I think we should send in troops, but I think you're very wrapped up in your own world. I guess when you leave home...

When I say I, I mean I - unlike the politicians.

I have said before that if the Falklands were invaded i'd sign up tommorow for the army because i'm not one of those armchair generals who is up for sending our boys halfway across the world and don't go myself. I cannot stand people our age who bang the war drum but whom refuse to serve themselves. And if I didn't serve should the Falklands be invaded, then you'd know what a hypocrite I am. Take another issue of principle for example, homosexuality - i'm gay, but as I find it immoral I won't involve myself in it even if I may wish to. It's hard, but i'll stick to it because thats principle & principle comes before love or anything else. It's the same with war, it's an awful experience - but if I truly believe in the cause i'll put principle before any fears I may have ... and I truly do believe the Falklands are worth dying for in an unprovoked attack by a foreign power. If I didn't, I wouldn't say it.

Don't make me out to be somebody who says a lot but doesn't follow it himself - because I do with other matters and I damn well would with the Falklands. Infact, it may come as a surprise to you - but i've been considering joining the Royal Navy after i've finished University; Falklands or no Falklands.


..in which case I think we should send in troops

You going to sign up in that case then? if not, don't throw stones whilst sitting in a glass house.

[Wig44.]

When I say I, I mean I - unlike the politicians.

I have said before that if the Falklands were invaded i'd sign up tommorow for the army because i'm not one of those armchair generals who is up for sending our boys halfway across the world and don't go myself. I cannot stand people our age who bang the war drum but whom refuse to serve themselves. And if I didn't serve should the Falklands be invaded, then you'd know what a hypocrite I am. Take another issue of principle for example, homosexuality - i'm gay, but as I find it immoral I won't involve myself in it even if I may wish to. It's hard, but i'll stick to it because thats principle & principle comes before love or anything else. It's the same with war, it's an awful experience - but if I truly believe in the cause i'll put principle before any fears I may have ... and I truly do believe the Falklands are worth dying for in an unprovoked attack by a foreign power. If I didn't, I wouldn't say it.

Don't make me out to be somebody who says a lot but doesn't follow it himself - because I do with other matters and I damn well would with the Falklands. Infact, it may come as a surprise to you - but i've been considering joining the Royal Navy after i've finished University; Falklands or no Falklands.



You going to sign up in that case then? if not, don't throw stones whilst sitting in a glass house.

I would tour the Falklands. I wouldn't tour the Middle east. I don't think we should be in the Middle east either.

Aside from that rather unimportant piece of information, it may come as a surprise to you but most people don't think like you do. I'm pretty sure most people would not feel it is worth dying over a small spit of land that likely won't have an impact on their lives anyway. As for your example about sticking to principles - that is not something to be proud of. I can't believe you think homosexuality is immoral and actually repress yourself. I'm sure you have good reasons for believing it is immoral, I just hope they aren't founded in religion.