Feedback forum!

[mrwoooooooo]

Would you care if it was removed?!

Management are obviously wasting too much time listening to your quite frankly, stupid suggestions.

Also just to add to the discussion, would you have actually left the forum if they hadn't of listened to threads in feedback, regarding things such as userbars and post count in certain forums?

[sex]

they listen to issues lol and it brings up new ideas etc

[Chippiewill]

Management are obviously wasting too much time listening to your quite frankly, stupid suggestions.

The irony has reached 11.

[GoldenMerc]

feedback forum is gr8

[Samantha]

What about the suggestions that have been put into place though? Surely they can't be stupid :P.

[Jurv]

it's great to read when people argue over stupid things, i say we keep it

[FlyingJesus]

I have a feeling this thread is trying to suggest that people should only ever care about things that are necessities rather than extras, which is hilarious coming from someone in the first world sat at home on his computer with broadband connection

[mrwoooooooo]

they listen to issues lol and it brings up new ideas etc
What issues are there that would have caused you to leave the forum?

When was the last time you can think of an idea that was posted in the feedback forum, which actually benefited the forum and raised posting activity?

[David]

feedback forum is perfect for you tbh, always complaining about what's going on

[Martin]

I think the fact that you made a thread about the feedback forum within the feedback forum proves it needs to stay LOL :P else where else would you have brought it up for people to discuss? :(


In all seriousness I think its fine as it is, I think its nice for members to have input into things, to discuss changes (even minor ones), and some members who have been on this forum for years have some pretty good ideas about things and to be fair even newer members often come up with great things too.

Sure, lately things have been a bit weird, the atmousphere on the forum seems to have changed in some respects in my view. I can't quite put my finger on what it is, but something feels different, whether its just activity lowering or whatever.

I don't think management are "wasting time" listening to stupid suggestions. I think its important that all feedback is taken on board, discussed and looked into. Sure some people take things too far, get a little uptight over things, but thats always been the case really. At the end of the day, the members are entitled to an opinion and they WILL have one regardless of whether this forum exists or not, and will simply state it elsewhere (in spam etc) anyway so having it here is at least more organised.

It's never presented a problem before really, and like I said, some very good discussions have come out of this forum in the past which have influenced some very good changes. The interaction between management and members is always crucial and this forum does that quite well really. I think its good that management take time to listen, and good that members are encouraged to give feedback. Some of the time it turns into a "we say this , you do that" kind of thing which shouldnt always be the case, since its feedback at the end of the day.


In regards to the 2nd thing, I don't think it would be worth leaving the forum over something like that, it wouldn't really solve anything. Management don't have to listen to everything in feedback, they are put in their position to make decisions too, however I think there needs to be a balance of user participation too and discussing certain things never hurts, and often helps management make decisions. I think with polls its slightly different and once you do something like that it makes sense to listen to it if thats the direction you are going to take, and I would like to think management would always do their best to cater for the majority of what people what on the forum where it is possible to do so.


So yeah, I think the Feedback Forum is fine, serves a purpose and whilst it can get a little heated/silly at times it can also be beneficial to the forum and promote discussion on important matters and gives members a chance to discuss with people what they think. it really is there to help improve things, so I think sometimes people can be a bit negative/pick out silly things which could be resolved better via PM.

[xxMATTGxx]

I can't believe you actually posted it to be honest. But hey ho, I can't see that many people agreeing with you.

[FlyingJesus]

Wow tell us how you feel Martin

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Do not post pointlessly.

[mrwoooooooo]

I can't believe you actually posted it to be honest. But hey ho, I can't see that many people agreeing with you.

Well ya know, you've gotta get your posting statistics somehow. May as well give you a helping hand.

http://www.hffmforum.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=85&daysprune=-1&order=desc&sort=replycount

Was funny to compare the two from the last year

[Martin]

Wow tell us how you feel Martin

Isn't that the idea of a Feedback thread?! :( I waffle far too much I know, but thats just the way I am sometimes! Most of it probably makes no sense haha.

[xxMATTGxx]

Well ya know, you've gotta get your posting statistics somehow. May as well give you a helping hand.

http://www.hffmforum.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=85&daysprune=-1&order=desc&sort=replycount

Was funny to compare the two from the last year

Not sure what your point is in regards of that link - Isn't that pretty much just like feedback? Considering the description of that forum says:


Any enquiries, feedback or complaints? Ask our management or administrators!

[Inseriousity.]

Yep let's just get rid of it, means I wouldn't have to bother replying to stupid threads like this.
Even better, let's get rid of the 'members who have read this thread' feature so I can pretend I haven't read stupid threads like this like the good ol' days.

[mrwoooooooo]

Not sure what your point is in regards of that link - Isn't that pretty much just like feedback? Considering the description of that forum says:

the funny part was the difference in amount of posts.

[xxMATTGxx]

the funny part was the difference in amount of posts.

The actual funny part is that they still have a feedback section and no one seems to be agreeing with you at this moment in time.

[Kardan]

I didn't realise that all feedback should increase posting activity. Technically if you removed the feedback forum, activity would decrease. It's one of the most active forums... (as bad as that is :P)

[Chris]

I've read some stupid feedback threads during my time here but this is the icing on the cake. Saying that, my life would be much easier without the feedback forum.

[mrwoooooooo]

The actual funny part is that they still have a feedback section.

That's fine with me, I wasn't expecting anything to happen anyway. You're the reason everything has stagnated so much :)

[xxMATTGxx]

That's fine with me, I wasn't expecting anything to happen anyway. You're the reason everything has stagnated so much :)

I suggest you complain to the owners then :)

[FlyingJesus]

Just out of interest Adam, how did you expect removing forums to increase post activity? Since that's apparently the only thing you think is worth working towards

[mrwoooooooo]

Just out of interest Adam, how did you expect removing forums to increase post activity? Since that's apparently the only thing you think is worth working towards

Well for a start it lets them concentrate on actual important things such as improving habbox.com (almost 2years since a new version!) habboxlive.com. but honestly for me, the problem lies down to the fact that senior management can't actually come up with any ideas themselves, which is why they're useless and have let activity become so low. (what does matt actually do?)

[FlyingJesus]

So you think management not replying to threads and not becoming integrated with the community will boost the overall performance of Habbox? And if they're as incapable of thinking as you suggest, surely a feedback section where others can chip in is going to be beneficial. You're not doing very well here

[Mr-Trainor]

If there wasn't a Feedback forum, then a lot of the features we have wouldn't be here now. I really don't think it should be going anywhere anytime soon :P.

[Chippiewill]

Well for a start it lets them concentrate on actual important things such as improving habbox.com (almost 2years since a new version!) habboxlive.com.
General Management isn't exactly heavily involved in the process of developing V7, nor would it be beneficial if they were.

[mrwoooooooo]

So you think management not replying to threads and not becoming integrated with the community will boost the overall performance of Habbox? And if they're as incapable of thinking as you suggest, surely a feedback section where others can chip in is going to be beneficial. You're not doing very well here
Maybe not, maybe I'm just annoyed at how bad they are and I'm taking it out on the feedback forum :P

If there wasn't a Feedback forum, then a lot of the features we have wouldn't be here now. I really don't think it should be going anywhere anytime soon :P.
What features?

[Chippiewill]

If there wasn't a feedback forum then hoteluser's duelling system wouldn't have been removed.

[Mr-Trainor]

What features?
Well I'm sure everyone can think of something that has been implemented/changed thanks to a feedback thread. Oh and by features I meant updates/features, same thing :P.
e.g..

the recent changes to Debates (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=768221) - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=766579
new Christmas VIP colours - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=763863
removal of Portable Devices (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=764759) - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=764735
new Posting Statistics award (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=768096&p=7797112#post7797112)


And that's just a few of a list that could go on and on if you go back to the beginning of Habbox :P.

[Chippiewill]

new Posting Statistics award (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=768096&p=7797112#post7797112)


Actually that was via PM :3

[Mr-Trainor]

Actually that was via PM :3
Oh lol, I was wondering why I couldn't find a thread :P.

[Phil]

I can't believe this thread has this many replies, it's just about worth a facepalm

But sure anyway......no......just no. There's no benefit from removing feedback thread, without it, Habbox would be a hell of a lot worse off. Think about the feedback given to various departments over the years not all but most containing some very significant constructive criticism. Without this criticism, how would the departments evolve and grow in a way people can relate to and enjoy?

[mrwoooooooo]

Well I'm sure everyone can think of something that has been implemented/changed thanks to a feedback thread. Oh and by features I meant updates/features, same thing :P.
e.g..

the recent changes to Debates (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=768221) - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=766579
new Christmas VIP colours - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=763863
removal of Portable Devices (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=764759) - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=764735
new Posting Statistics award (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=768096&p=7797112#post7797112)


And that's just a few of a list that could go on and on if you go back to the beginning of Habbox :P.

Sure they listened to members, but they aren't something I'd call features.

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I can't believe this thread has this many replies, it's just about worth a facepalm

But sure anyway......no......just no. There's no benefit from removing feedback thread, without it, Habbox would be a hell of a lot worse off. Think about the feedback given to various departments over the years not all but most containing some very significant constructive criticism. Without this criticism, how would the departments evolve and grow in a way people can relate to and enjoy?

by good management

[Tom]

Sure they listened to members, but they aren't something I'd call features.

Wait, what?! What do you class as a feature?

[David]

vbsoccer
whos viewed thread
didnt the arcade return after someone asked about it?

[mrwoooooooo]

Wait, what?! What do you class as a feature?

Verb
Have as a prominent attribute or aspect: "the hotel features a sauna"

[Chris]

Sure they listened to members, but they aren't something I'd call features.

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by good management

Here is a list of features that have been introduced since I became forum manager:

Posting Statistics Reward
Quick Editor Updates
Dojo Skin
Fluid or Fixed width option
Unvote on polls (Now removed due to bugs)
New report post system
Arcade brought back
vbsoccer
Members who have read this thread
New bb codes
Cool rooms of the months award

What more do you want? :P

[mrwoooooooo]

Here is a list of features that have been introduced since I became forum manager:

Posting Statistics Reward
Quick Editor Updates
Dojo Skin
Fluid or Fixed width option
Unvote on polls (Now removed due to bugs)
New report post system
Arcade brought back
vbsoccer
Members who have read this thread
New bb codes
Cool rooms of the months award

What more do you want? :P
hmmmm maybe something that would generate activity posts-wise? just a stab in the dark

maybe there is nothing that you can do and it really is on its last legs.

[Phil]

Sure they listened to members, but they aren't something I'd call features.

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by good management

So you're telling me you'd prefer it if management just did their own thing in relation to their departments and there was no community involvement with ideas they could implement?

[wixard]

TBH I WANT A LIKE THIS POST BUTTON
PLEASE CAN WE HAVE A LIKE THIS POST BUTTON

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Please stay on topic!

[mrwoooooooo]

feedback second most posted in forum last week, would there have been more posts elsewhere on the forum without the feedback forum or not? :)


So you're telling me you'd prefer it if management just did their own thing in relation to their departments and there was no community involvement with ideas they could implement?

There are lots of other members of staff, but yes, it's about time management came up with their own ideas to increase activity or they aren't doing their jobs properly.

[Mr-Trainor]

mrwoooooooo; Well what would you do to increase post count on the forum, if you had the power to do so right now?

[Kardan]

feedback second most posted in forum last week, would there have been more posts elsewhere on the forum without the feedback forum or not? :)

Don't know where you are reading, I see feedback as 4th... "Help / Questions / Feedback 669"

And if you think there would be more posts elsewhere without the feedback forum, should we not remove the forum categories that are below feedback as well? Just have spam, habbo and general?

[Aiden]

I would care tbh... its the only time anything interesting happens.

[mrwoooooooo]

mrwoooooooo; Well what would you do to increase post count on the forum, if you had the power to do so right now?

Get rid of the feedback forum to see if it increased posting activity elsewhere as too much is wasted in here :)

[Mr-Trainor]

Get rid of the feedback forum to see if it increased posting activity elsewhere as too much is wasted in here :)
But then there'd be no forum for people to feed back on the change, and discuss whether it worked or not :P?

[mrwoooooooo]

Don't know where you are reading, I see feedback as 4th... "Help / Questions / Feedback 669"

And if you think there would be more posts elsewhere without the feedback forum, should we not remove the forum categories that are below feedback as well? Just have spam, habbo and general?

Look at it again, they made an error in the table.

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But then there'd be no forum for people to feed back on the change, and discuss whether it worked or not :P?

You'd be able to tell from the stats

[David]

TBH I WANT A LIKE THIS POST BUTTON
PLEASE CAN WE HAVE A LIKE THIS POST BUTTON

i will second this

[Phil]

There are lots of other members of staff, but yes, it's about time management came up with their own ideas to increase activity or they aren't doing their jobs properly.

Well while managers may come up with the ideas, what's if it's not want the people want to see? The only way management are going to know exactly what people want is if they're told or fed some ideas. They can't read our minds! they can just follow the guidelines they are given while trying to improve overall quality and popularity! If someone has an off-the-wall brilliant idea why shouldn't it be put forward?

Community based ideas made by the public are usually the most popular because it's what they want to see! Management appreciate it and if i's put in place, they community appreciate it.

[Mr-Trainor]

You'd be able to tell from the stats
But there'd be no place for ordinary members (i.e. not management) to discuss it, as there'd be no feedback forum and therefore no relevant forum to do so.

[Phil]

I think weneed a poll ;)

[Chippiewill]

hmmmm maybe something that would generate activity posts-wise?

Post counts leaped for the two weeks following the implementation of the posting stats reward with significant numbers of people trying to get over 100 posts.

[mrwoooooooo]

Well while managers may come up with the ideas, what's if it's not want the people want to see? The only way management are going to know exactly what people want is if they're told or fed some ideas. They can't read our minds! they can just follow the guidelines they are given while trying to improve overall quality and popularity! If someone has an off-the-wall brilliant idea why shouldn't it be put forward?

Community based ideas made by the public are usually the most popular because it's what they want to see! Management appreciate it and if i's put in place, they community appreciate it.

Take risks! be bold! if it doesn't work then try something else! but if you do nothing then nothing positive will happen!

[DamienMarj]

bring back habboxtv

[Phil]

Take risks! be bold! if it doesn't work then try something else! but if you do nothing then nothing positive will happen!

Graphics Dept. released new userbars, that was a risk....people weren't happy...

[Inseriousity.]

If we define good management as not listening to others then I'm okay with being a bad manager. Management are always trying to think of new and unique ideas but the problem with new and unique ideas is that they don't just pop up out of thin air, you've got to really think it through! I'm currently working with the rare values department on a new feature, for example. It's all very well thinking of them but they've got to actually work and have a system put in place for them or they'll fall at the first hurdle.

Also just a little sidenote but I do not think activity and post count are the same thing. There are lots of Habbox regulars who haven't posted a single thing on the forum but you won't know a single one of them unless you're actively involved with Habbo. We are always on the lookout for new ideas that'll make them take that transition from Habbo to fansite. If you have any, feel free to share them. I'm guessing you don't, you seem to be another person who likes to moan and whinge about a lack of ideas, expecting management to wave a magic wand they don't have while contributing nothing yourself.

[mrwoooooooo]

Graphics Dept. released new userbars, that was a risk....people weren't happy...

so what? they weren't going to leave the forum because of it. let them be unhappy! like matt said they'd soon forget about it

[LiquidLuck.]

I think it can be very useful so I say it shouldn't be removed.

[David]

I'm currently working with the rare values department on a new feature, for example. It's all very well thinking of them but they've got to actually work and have a system put in place for them or they'll fall at the first hurdle.

so you're the one holding up v7?!

[Inseriousity.]

LOL no it's going to be a forum based thing for now. Not going to delay that for another 5 months!

[Phil]

so what? they weren't going to leave the forum because of it. let them be unhappy! like matt said they'd soon forget about it

That's not the point! Weeks of unesscessary arguments could have been avoided if there was something like a poll or a competition (which initially happened) in the first place. When things like that happen people don't think "Oh management are crap, they can't do things themselves" people love to be involved in things like this, everyone likes their voice to be heard. Whether what they say is implemented or not, it is still taken into consideration.

[Chippiewill]

LOL no it's going to be a forum based thing for now. Not going to delay that for another 5 months!

btw if it is something that might be better suited for habbox.com instead then there's no harm asking me if it's practical to be developed.

[mrwoooooooo]

That's not the point! Weeks of unesscessary arguments could have been avoided if there was something like a poll or a competition (which initially happened) in the first place. When things like that happen people don't think "Oh management are crap, they can't do things themselves" people love to be involved in things like this, everyone likes their voice to be heard. Whether what they say is implemented or not, it is still taken into consideration.

That is the point! :S it's my point anyway

[wixard]

LIKE THIS POST BUTTON

WHO IS WITH ME

[Chippiewill]

LIKE THIS POST BUTTON

WHO IS WITH ME

Yes, I want casual rep too.

[Phil]

That is the point! :S it's my point anyway

So what? Continue implementing changes that people may or may not be happy with and if they don't like it, have the attitude "Get over it"?

[mrwoooooooo]

So what? Continue implementing changes that people may or may not be happy with and if they don't like it, have the attitude "Get over it"?

to an extent, yes.

[Inseriousity.]

btw if it is something that might be better suited for habbox.com instead then there's no harm asking me if it's practical to be developed.

well I know rv management would like it on both and the 5 months was an exaggeration lol, more like 5 minutes so I'll post a thread in the developer's forum later :)

[Chippiewill]

well I know rv management would like it on both and the 5 months was an exaggeration lol, more like 5 minutes so I'll post a thread in the developer's forum later :)
If you're trying to keep it secret don't forget you can post it in the developers only sub-forum.

[mrwoooooooo]

btw if it is something that might be better suited for habbox.com instead then there's no harm asking me if it's practical to be developed.

so you're not communicating with other departments? there's an idea!

[Phil]

to an extent, yes.

I don't really get it but that's speaking from a managers but of view but I repsect your opinion

[Chippiewill]

so you're not communicating with other departments? there's an idea!

There's a lot of communication, however some stuff is kept on a departmental level to develop ideas before bringing it to an inter-departmental level and some stuff is kept secret till the last moment so it's a surprise.

[Mr-Trainor]

LOL no it's going to be a forum based thing for now. Not going to delay that for another 5 months!
Hope it comes soon because you've now made me wonder what it could possibly be.. :P.

LIKE THIS POST BUTTON

WHO IS WITH ME
I'm with you :D.

so you're not communicating with other departments? there's an idea!
It's not like he's the general manager, site coders won't know what's going on in every department and surely they shouldn't :P? Only what they've been asked to work on is what they know, if that's how it all works.

[Sian]

Here is a list of features that have been introduced since I became forum manager:

Posting Statistics Reward
Quick Editor Updates
Dojo Skin
Fluid or Fixed width option
Unvote on polls (Now removed due to bugs)
New report post system
Arcade brought back
vbsoccer
Members who have read this thread
New bb codes
Cool rooms of the months award

What more do you want? :P

A cake with my name on it...

this thread is entertaining, but you have to have feedback forums. Jeeze.

[GoldenMerc]

bring back habboxtv
agreed

btw if it is something that might be better suited for habbox.com instead then there's no harm asking me if it's practical to be developed.
no, cant wait longer

LIKE THIS POST BUTTON

WHO IS WITH ME
no h8 u

If you're trying to keep it secret don't forget you can post it in the developers only sub-forum.
your not invited to my tea party

A cake with my name on it...

this thread is entertaining, but you have to have feedback forums. Jeeze.
never

n agreed.
i swear 80% of my posts are feedback related.
how could i complain about chris removing his own -reps without feedback forums?

[RyRy]

Here is a list of features that have been introduced since I became forum manager:

Posting Statistics Reward
Quick Editor Updates
Dojo Skin
Fluid or Fixed width option
Unvote on polls (Now removed due to bugs)
New report post system
Arcade brought back
vbsoccer
Members who have read this thread
New bb codes
Cool rooms of the months award

What more do you want? :P

CAKE. FREE CAKE. I WANT FREE CAKE!

Nah I like the Feedback forum, you get some pretty decent stuff to read in here. You also get a good laugh out of people in here too, with threads like these. :P