Self harm awareness day<3

[bam..its..abbz]

Okay so yeh, today's self harm awareness day by writing this i just wanted to make you aware if your out there thinking your all alone, your wrong, your never alone.

Before you self harm in any way, you should probably know what you’re getting into.
Before you make that cut, please keep in mind that you will find the pain release and blood strangely addictive.
You may think to yourself that you’ll be able to control it, that you won’t let it get out of hand.
You may think that you can just stick to a few small, shallow cuts here and there that won’t be deep and that will heal quickly and easily.
But you’re wrong.
You can’t control it, it’s impossible to control. It controls you. It’s an addiction.
The cuts will get deeper, they’ll scar. They’ll take weeks to months to heal and years for the scars to actually begin to fade.
You’ll find that soon, you depend on it. You can’t go more than a few days without cutting. You’ll go crazy as your skin itches and burns, your hands shake, your head pounds, your vision goes blurry as you try to keep your mind off of it, try to hold back from giving in. But you will.
If you think you can limit the cuts to just one area of your body, you better think again. It’ll spread slowly but steadily, like a deadly virus. It’ll spread as you run out of skin, from your wrists to arms, past your elbows, up your shoulders down to your stomach, across your hips and waist and soon will cover your every inch of your legs right down to your ankles.
I hope you’re prepared to withdraw from others and live in a constant state of shame and guilt. Even if you have been the most honest person to ever live, you will lie to your friends, family members, everyone around you who you care about.
You’ll find yourself jerking back from the touch of someone, as if their fingers and hands have been bathed in a toxic, burning poison. You’ll be terrified that they will feel a scar or cut from beneath the fabric of your shirt or because it just plain hurts so much to simply be touched.
Be prepared to become your own worst enemy. You’ll fear yourself, your head, the urges that taunt you every minute of every day. You’ll come to fear the next time you cut because you don’t know how bad it’ll be.
Wait for the 10 cuts to turn into 20 then 50 then 100. You’ll be covered in scars and cuts.
Your entire life will begin to revolve around your addiction. You’ll constantly be thinking about cutting, covering up your cuts, how you’ll hide your blades, scissors, bobby pins and the other objects you use to destroy your body.
And then..the first time that you cut “too deep.” The bleeding won’t stop and you’re gasping, shaking, panicking, fear takes over you. You pray and hope that the bleeding will stop. Your purpose wasn’t to die, you won’t ever go that deep again. Right? Wrong. You’ll go there again, and deeper.
But don’t worry. You’ll learn how to take care of your cuts so you don’t have to take a trip to the hospital every night. The better you get at treating your wounds, the worse they become.
You’ll lie to yourself and try to justify it when you go to the pharmacy and drug store, finding yourself spending 20, 30, 40 dollars on dressings, gauze, alcohol wipes and sterile strips.
You’ll tap your foot impatiently, hoping that no one stares and asks you why you’re buying all of these things. But at the same time..you hope someone asks, so you know they care.
Be prepared to spend even more money on an entire new wardrobe. Long sleeved shirts, hoodies, long pants, boots, bracelets, wristbands. The list goes on forever.
You’ll keep scanning other people’s bodies for signs of self harm, hoping that there is someone else out there who feels the same way you do. Hoping, praying that they will be like you. But that will never happen. You’ll see clean, uncut, unmarred arms and feel even more alone and ashamed than before.
You’ll do a lot of things alone, be prepared to kiss your social life goodbye. You’ll always be doing your laundry, always in private so no one sees the blood stained towels and clothes. You’ll be spending hours scrubbing blood from the bathroom floor, and wiping dried blood off of your keyboard.
You won’t be able to make it a day without cutting. You’ll carry an emergency kit in your wallet or purse. A key, safety pin, a needle, a paperclip, even a pencil. Everything around you will become a weapon. It doesn’t matter what it is, as long as it gives you that feeling that sends you reeling.
Next thing you know, you’re in the bathroom stall at your school or work, picking open the scab of an old cut with a needle.
Say goodbye to all of the things you took for granted. Shorts, sandals, tank tops, swimming in the summer, going to the beach. All of these things will be a far off memory.
I hope you like itching and scratching non stop. You will itch and itch and itch. It’ll be so much that it’ll look like you have some sort of flesh eating disease.
You will become an expert on your body as you carefully destroy it, taking it apart piece by piece.
You will dream of cutting, dreaming of getting caught. It will haunt you day and night, in your dreams and when you are awake. Cutting will take over your life. It now has it’s hold over you, it controls you.
You’ll hate yourself, hate yourself for making that first cut that threw you into this vicious, never ending cycle.
You’ll wish you never made that first cut.
You’ll wish you had read something like this, or that someone had told you what would happen.
But as much as you hate your addiction and self harm, you love it and can’t live without it. You’d rather die than go just a few weeks without cutting.
Love, don’t make the first cut. Don’t get sucked into this deadly addiction. Talk to someone, talk to me. Blades can’t comfort you, only make you weaker. You’re stronger than this and you aren’t alone

We can get through it together<3


Edited by Bolt660 (Forum Moderator): Thread moved here from 'Discuss Anything' as its more suited here.

[mrwoooooooo]

tldr version : dont do it you idiot

[bam..its..abbz]

tldr version : dont do it you idiot

Idiot. Really.

you obviously don't have a clue , people can't help it like for example you probably smoke , you addicted right, can't stop. Self harm can become like that , people feel lonley and fed up with life for various reasons people can even commit suciside, saying ' don't do it idiots' isnt really going to make them better if there doing it because there getting bullied and someone comes along and says that. It wouldn't end well, put yourself in their shoes think about others.

[Stephen]

holy vaginas that wall of text has blinded me

Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly!

[bam..its..abbz]

holy vaginas that wall of text has blinded me

Aha Ikr , I didn't write it all half of it is a story/poem.
took me ages to read through before I posted it to check it though . ;)

[Samantha]

Idiot. Really.

you obviously don't have a clue , people can't help it like for example you probably smoke , you addicted right, can't stop. Self harm can become like that , people feel lonley and fed up with life for various reasons people can even commit suciside, saying ' don't do it idiots' isnt really going to make them better if there doing it because there getting bullied and someone comes along and says that. It wouldn't end well, put yourself in their shoes think about others.

I don't think assumptions/judhing helps but I agree it can be an addiction and there are various reasons that can lead someone to do it. I can't see myself ever doing it and I have felt so low before but I become more angry and throw things.

[Cerys]

I used to do it and I just recently started again. Life gets tough, you know? Its a sweet relief i think. i know I shouldnt and I try to stop, but like you said, it's an addiction like smoking. You get into the habit of releasing it all.

[Calvin]

Hopefully I don't offend anybody that does this sort of activity, but just wanted to say what is on my mind regarding this matter.

I can't stand pointless 'awareness' days like these as it seems to me like the awareness is to get more people to self harm. All of them mention it's an addiction and compare it to smoking even though smokers are always at fault but when it comes to self harm people start to feel sorry for them. People who self harm are doing the exactly the same thing as smoking, by optionally starting it and then getting 'addicted' to it.

I totally agree with mrwoooo to be honest, don't do it. If you're getting bullied then go for help about it, there's plenty of resources all around you that you can use to overcome it rather than a blade and cause more harm to yourself which you'll later on regret.

[Cerys]

Hopefully I don't offend anybody that does this sort of activity, but just wanted to say what is on my mind regarding this matter.

I can't stand pointless 'awareness' days like these as it seems to me like the awareness is to get more people to self harm.

I agree with this bit.
I mean, nobody really cares any other day of the year, so why should they suddenly care on that day?

The part about 'optionally starting it and then getting addicted to it' I don't agree on. When things turn to unbearable, you feel like you have no where else to turn. So you turn to the knife. People who smoke usually start it over peerpressure etc but not self harm. Honestly, don't say that it's optional. *I know it is in a way as you choose to do it, but trust me, it feels like thats the only thing you can do to take away the pain a little*

[mrwoooooooo]

I agree with this bit.
When things turn to unbearable, you feel like you have no where else to turn. So you turn to the knife.

no you dont, only idiots do

[Brice]

init tro

[buttons]

Okay so yeh, today's self harm awareness day by writing this i just wanted to make you aware if your out there thinking your all alone, your wrong, your never alone.

Before you self harm in any way, you should probably know what you’re getting into.
Before you make that cut, please keep in mind that you will find the pain release and blood strangely addictive.
You may think to yourself that you’ll be able to control it, that you won’t let it get out of hand.
You may think that you can just stick to a few small, shallow cuts here and there that won’t be deep and that will heal quickly and easily.
But you’re wrong.
You can’t control it, it’s impossible to control. It controls you. It’s an addiction.
The cuts will get deeper, they’ll scar. They’ll take weeks to months to heal and years for the scars to actually begin to fade.
You’ll find that soon, you depend on it. You can’t go more than a few days without cutting. You’ll go crazy as your skin itches and burns, your hands shake, your head pounds, your vision goes blurry as you try to keep your mind off of it, try to hold back from giving in. But you will.
If you think you can limit the cuts to just one area of your body, you better think again. It’ll spread slowly but steadily, like a deadly virus. It’ll spread as you run out of skin, from your wrists to arms, past your elbows, up your shoulders down to your stomach, across your hips and waist and soon will cover your every inch of your legs right down to your ankles.
I hope you’re prepared to withdraw from others and live in a constant state of shame and guilt. Even if you have been the most honest person to ever live, you will lie to your friends, family members, everyone around you who you care about.
You’ll find yourself jerking back from the touch of someone, as if their fingers and hands have been bathed in a toxic, burning poison. You’ll be terrified that they will feel a scar or cut from beneath the fabric of your shirt or because it just plain hurts so much to simply be touched.
Be prepared to become your own worst enemy. You’ll fear yourself, your head, the urges that taunt you every minute of every day. You’ll come to fear the next time you cut because you don’t know how bad it’ll be.
Wait for the 10 cuts to turn into 20 then 50 then 100. You’ll be covered in scars and cuts.
Your entire life will begin to revolve around your addiction. You’ll constantly be thinking about cutting, covering up your cuts, how you’ll hide your blades, scissors, bobby pins and the other objects you use to destroy your body.
And then..the first time that you cut “too deep.” The bleeding won’t stop and you’re gasping, shaking, panicking, fear takes over you. You pray and hope that the bleeding will stop. Your purpose wasn’t to die, you won’t ever go that deep again. Right? Wrong. You’ll go there again, and deeper.
But don’t worry. You’ll learn how to take care of your cuts so you don’t have to take a trip to the hospital every night. The better you get at treating your wounds, the worse they become.
You’ll lie to yourself and try to justify it when you go to the pharmacy and drug store, finding yourself spending 20, 30, 40 dollars on dressings, gauze, alcohol wipes and sterile strips.
You’ll tap your foot impatiently, hoping that no one stares and asks you why you’re buying all of these things. But at the same time..you hope someone asks, so you know they care.
Be prepared to spend even more money on an entire new wardrobe. Long sleeved shirts, hoodies, long pants, boots, bracelets, wristbands. The list goes on forever.
You’ll keep scanning other people’s bodies for signs of self harm, hoping that there is someone else out there who feels the same way you do. Hoping, praying that they will be like you. But that will never happen. You’ll see clean, uncut, unmarred arms and feel even more alone and ashamed than before.
You’ll do a lot of things alone, be prepared to kiss your social life goodbye. You’ll always be doing your laundry, always in private so no one sees the blood stained towels and clothes. You’ll be spending hours scrubbing blood from the bathroom floor, and wiping dried blood off of your keyboard.
You won’t be able to make it a day without cutting. You’ll carry an emergency kit in your wallet or purse. A key, safety pin, a needle, a paperclip, even a pencil. Everything around you will become a weapon. It doesn’t matter what it is, as long as it gives you that feeling that sends you reeling.
Next thing you know, you’re in the bathroom stall at your school or work, picking open the scab of an old cut with a needle.
Say goodbye to all of the things you took for granted. Shorts, sandals, tank tops, swimming in the summer, going to the beach. All of these things will be a far off memory.
I hope you like itching and scratching non stop. You will itch and itch and itch. It’ll be so much that it’ll look like you have some sort of flesh eating disease.
You will become an expert on your body as you carefully destroy it, taking it apart piece by piece.
You will dream of cutting, dreaming of getting caught. It will haunt you day and night, in your dreams and when you are awake. Cutting will take over your life. It now has it’s hold over you, it controls you.
You’ll hate yourself, hate yourself for making that first cut that threw you into this vicious, never ending cycle.
You’ll wish you never made that first cut.
You’ll wish you had read something like this, or that someone had told you what would happen.
But as much as you hate your addiction and self harm, you love it and can’t live without it. You’d rather die than go just a few weeks without cutting.
Love, don’t make the first cut. Don’t get sucked into this deadly addiction. Talk to someone, talk to me. Blades can’t comfort you, only make you weaker. You’re stronger than this and you aren’t alone

We can get through it together<3


Edited by Bolt660 (Forum Moderator): Thread moved here from 'Discuss Anything' as its more suited here. can completely relate to it becoming addictive because you know whenever you feel sad it will ALWAYS make you feel better so you use any excuse to do it and turn to it every time, it is like an addiction. also i didn't self harm for 6 years but i still had my blade in my jewellery box and on a particularly bad day i found it again and got an adrenaline rush. you start to make the associations, self harm = instant relief and happiness, well maybe happiness isnt the correct word but you at least feel 'okay' again.
its all a control thing, when i'd be unscrewing my sharpener for the blade or cutting around the blade of a razor with the knife, id accidently cut myself. even though they would be the least painful and only leave a little mark, they'd be the worst cuts because you weren't prepared for it, you weren't in control of your pain. + when you cut the deepest and panic, you think that's the last time you'll ever self-harm but its not, you do it again because it IS like an addiction, the relieved feeling you get afterwards is the addiction... but this time you'll be more careful, more in control of it. but it also controls you too because its always in the back of your mind, reminding yourself that all you need to do when you feel bad is pick up the blade. its like your best friend and worst enemy.
"hoping no-one asks but the same time hope they do" and "buying long sleeved shirts, hoodies, bracelets" etc i know the feeling too well. the worst part is when you see people notice and they don't say or do anything. sometimes you see them checking your arms when they're talkin to you and you want to scream out "self harming isn't only done on the wrists" but you dont. you cover it up in embarrassment. self harming isnt just slitting either. when you have a bad day, you get drunk. you self harm your body in order to feel good. that's what self-harming with a blade is too. but still, self-harmers are looked down on. and it makes me so mad that people tell you you're an idiot for it. well, you're a hypocrite. we all do things that make us happy. (not telling people to go out self harm if they feel bad no way as it can become like an addiction, just realize you probably self harm in many ways too.) going shopping, seeing a cute top or dress but not buying it because it will just be covered up by the jumper or shirt you're going to wear to hide your scars..
i feel sick knowing i don't have my 'safety net', my blade, in my room. whenever life gets really bad i need it to be there. and if its not, i replace it with something else. if i dont have a blade in my room, as ive thrown out many thinking i can get through it, then i can simply go to the shop to buy some alcohol. self harmers are no different to anyone else. we've all done something similar to ease pain.
i agree, i wish i never made the first cut. was 13 when i did. didn't do it for 6 years (guess i replaced it with alcohol :P) until i remembered it would make me feel better, not sure ill ever get over it. such an easy way to get relief..

uhhhh i wrote this cause i like to put into words how i feel about a topic. tis another sense of relief i get. debated on posting it but i will, so you know you're not alone. i know people who look down on self-harmers or would rather not be my friend if they knew. guess we really don't like what we can't understand. also hope they're not stupid enough to air these kind of opinion such as "idiot. attention seeker" in real life because they have no idea whether one of their friends or family self-harm. you really have no idea who does it but its a lot more common than you think. remember if you do say it to someone who self-harms, they'll feel more ashamed than they already do. worst thing for me is knowing my friends know but don't ask me about it or offer help but at the same time, im glad they dont, cause i feel ashamed bout it and wouldnt want to talk about it.. i fear getting caught, why do humans fear others knowing theyre unhappy? fear of talking about our mental states, our sadness, rejection, fears :S id probably stop if someone did know and acknowledged it at least. why should we be made to feel ashamed for wanting to feel a little bit of happiness? i dont see the sense in making someone feel worse than they already do and im very hesitant to admit something like this because people use it against you but never explain why its an insult. so i won't allow myself to be insulted by it. nor should you.

wootzeh, i'd rather be an idiot than a narrow minded fool. you can have your opinion all you like but i really hope you're not stupid enough to say that to anyone irl when you have no idea whether they self harm or not. im gonna guess you haven't been in the situation to understand why someone would do it and how they feel about it. Samanfa; thats my reasoning for it. im so angry sometimes that i cant express it, i won't throw things and i won't hurt another person for it. id rather hurt myself so i do. way i see it is self-harmers hurt themselves rather than someone else so why are they looked down on so much?

[mrwoooooooo]

wootzeh, i'd rather be an idiot than a narrow minded fool. you can have your opinion all you like but i really hope you're not stupid enough to say that to anyone irl when you have no idea whether they self harm or not. im gonna guess you haven't been in the situation to understand why someone would do it and how they feel about it.

What reason could there possibly be to self harm for any mentally stable person, if you do this you should go see a psychiatrist.

[MKR&*42]

What reason could there possibly be to self harm for any mentally stable person, if you do this you should go see a psychiatrist.

So based on your earlier quote, you've just called all mentally unstable people idiots lol. how nice of you!

[mrwoooooooo]

So based on your earlier quote, you've just called all mentally unstable people idiots lol. how nice of you!

tru dat

[buttons]

What reason could there possibly be to self harm for any mentally stable person, if you do this you should go see a psychiatrist.
no-one mentioned about anyone being mentally stable? :S there are lots of reason. someone may do it because they have no feelings in themselves so cut themselves to try feel something, its been quite common in sociopaths. other people do it because they have too much feelings that they can't express themselves and its the only way they can personally rid of that feeling. you've never been in that situation therefore you don't understand and pass it off as being weird or idiotic. anyway, i don't like to talk to people without basic empathy so i wont. id say im more emotionally stable than many as in i don't care about what others say no longer nor care about fitting in, so i wouldn't do it because im being bullied. there are other personal reasons i do it. all i know is it makes me feel better and that's enough for me.

eugh adam seriously your opinion is fine, i hope no-one you're close to is struggling from a mental disorder because if you were to say that to someone you'd make them feel a lot worse.

[dbgtz]

Raise all the awareness you want, I'll never understand why people want to hurt, or on a related point, kill themselves (with the exceptions of the terminally ill and severely disabled) nor do I really sympathise for most.

[buttons]

Raise all the awareness you want, I'll never understand why people want to hurt, or on a related point, kill themselves (with the exceptions of the terminally ill and severely disabled) nor do I really sympathise for most.
ER CAUSE SOME PEOPLE DONT WANT TO LIVE WITH THE **** CONDITIONS OR UPBRINGING THEY'VE HAD. THE CONSTANT REMINDERS THAT DON'T ALLOW THEM TO MOVE ON WITH THEIR LIVES. EVERYDAY FEELINGS OF WORTHLESSNESS THAT DON'T GO AWAY JUST BY TALKING ABOUT IT. IT'S REALLY AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

OH MY GOD
I AM SO DONE WITH THIS FORUM

as for it being an awareness day well if it helps change even ONE persons mind then i am happy with that. unfortunately we are stuck with brainless *****. and you wonder why we don't want to live in a world like this.

[Calum0812]

I have a friend who used to self-harm. Managed to get him to stop after referring him to the local doctors.
He is so much happier in himself now :)

[MKR&*42]

ER CAUSE SOME PEOPLE DONT WANT TO LIVE WITH THE **** CONDITIONS OR UPBRINGING THEY'VE HAD. THE CONSTANT REMINDERS THAT DON'T ALLOW THEM TO MOVE ON WITH THEIR LIVES. EVERYDAY FEELINGS OF WORTHLESSNESS THAT DON'T GO AWAY JUST BY TALKING ABOUT IT. IT'S REALLY AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

OH MY GOD
I AM SO DONE WITH THIS FORUM

as for it being an awareness day well if it helps change even ONE persons mind then i am happy with that. unfortunately we are stuck with brainless *****. and you wonder why we don't want to live in a world like this.

If I could rep you Jen, I would.

I remember the last time this topic came up majorly in a thread (think it was self-harm or suicide idk), but people's attitudes towards it... and generally anything... on this forum are horrific. It's surprising some of you lot don't have black sludge pumping through your veins instead of blood lol.

[FlyingJesus]

This is the reason that awareness days are needed - not to say "some people self harm BET YOU NEVER KNEW" but so that idiots who are completely and wilfully ignorant of the situation might manage to be educated on the subject. I know that being stupid is easy but whenever I come across something I don't understand I try to learn about it, especially if it's a world issue that affects peoples' lives. Tom you mentioned the severely disabled as one of your exceptions, but completely failed to acknowledge the destructive nature of depression and just how severely disabling it can be in its many forms. Just because you can't see it on the surface doesn't mean it's unimportant or not serious.

[dbgtz]

ER CAUSE SOME PEOPLE DONT WANT TO LIVE WITH THE **** CONDITIONS OR UPBRINGING THEY'VE HAD.

So someone hurting themself somehow makes this better... Unless you were referring to suicide, then it would depend what the conditions were.



as for it being an awareness day well if it helps change even ONE persons mind then i am happy with that. unfortunately we are stuck with brainless *****. and you wonder why we don't want to live in a world like this.

Me not agreeing with your opinion does not make me brainless.

[FlyingJesus]

Having no sympathy for people who suffer from chronic mental illnesses isn't having an opinion it's just being uncaring

[Cerys]

no you dont, only idiots do


wow thanks for that. you know, being called an idiot by someone really has helped me pass by this diffucult time. might stop now, thanks - you're a life saver.

I actually don't understand how anyone can be as insensitive as you...

[Inseriousity.]

I don't think people are idiots to self harm. I would hope however that they can get out of that cycle as quickly as possible because ultimately self-harm is not going to make the problem go away. Releasing all that pent up frustration, stress, anger etc via self-harm is a quick-fix and I hope that they find the light at the end of the tunnel and provide a safe environment for them to work through those problems. Even if the problem doesn't go away or can't go away, it's more about looking at it from a different angle so that it's easier to cope with.

[Lindsey]

I have personally never self-harmed but my friends have. So, I personally do not understand it. But, that is really nice of you to put this up, hopefully it really helps others!

[dbgtz]

Having no sympathy for people who suffer from chronic mental illnesses isn't having an opinion it's just being uncaring

To say all who self harm have a chronic mental illness is a bit of an overstatement and never did I say I had no sympathy for all who self harm. In regards to the opinion, it was nothing to do with if I sympathised or not and was aimed at the point of awareness days.

[FlyingJesus]

To say all who self harm have a chronic mental illness is a bit of an overstatement and never did I say I had no sympathy for all who self harm. In regards to the opinion, it was nothing to do with if I sympathised or not and was aimed at the point of awareness days.

It's quite clear that people who are addicted to self harm do have chronic mental illnesses, even if they're "just doing it for attention" as people love to suggest on these topics. Many all-out suicide attempts are desperate pleas for attention deep down (hence the huge survival rate) but that doesn't make them any less tragic or worthy of support and medical help. If your first post was supposed to be you expressing your opinion that awareness days are pointless then the fact that your actual words were:


Raise all the awareness you want, I'll never understand why people want to hurt, or on a related point, kill themselves (with the exceptions of the terminally ill and severely disabled) nor do I really sympathise for most.

translates to "awareness days are pointless because I have my ideas and am unwilling/unable to change them" which is bigotry, not reason.

[Ardemax]

I remember the last time this topic came up majorly in a thread (think it was self-harm or suicide idk), but people's attitudes towards it... and generally anything... on this forum are horrific. It's surprising some of you lot don't have black sludge pumping through your veins instead of blood lol.

Some people's attitudes are different because some people have a different opinion to yours. One reason why this country is so fantastic is that other people are allowed to express an opinion, whatever it may be.

[Cerys]

Some people's attitudes are different because some people have a different opinion to yours. One reason why this country is so fantastic is that other people are allowed to express an opinion, whatever it may be.

Yeah, but some opinions on this are just disgusting... it is just awful to even think/say what their opinions are on this topic

[MKR&*42]

Some people's attitudes are different because some people have a different opinion to yours. One reason why this country is so fantastic is that other people are allowed to express an opinion, whatever it may be.

As said above, their opinions are disgraceful. I also do not like people who try to justify those who are being a **** with the phrase "It's just my opinion."

(*I'm not saying you're doing that, just stating that's similar to what happened before and will probably happen in this thread furthermore.)

[dbgtz]

It's quite clear that people who are addicted to self harm do have chronic mental illnesses, even if they're "just doing it for attention" as people love to suggest on these topics. Many all-out suicide attempts are desperate pleas for attention deep down (hence the huge survival rate) but that doesn't make them any less tragic or worthy of support and medical help.


To attempt suicide because you feel lonely is exactly one of the things I don't sympathise with... I never said just because I don't sympathise with it doesn't mean anyone else should, I'm just stating my opinion not forcing others to see it from my point of view.



If your first post was supposed to be you expressing your opinion that awareness days are pointless then the fact that your actual words were:

translates to "awareness days are pointless because I have my ideas and am unwilling/unable to change them" which is bigotry, not reason.

There's a difference between bigotry and the incapability of understanding. I based my opinion on how I reacted to them and how I saw my peers react to them. I also dislike them because of the fact people try to force their opinion down my throat and make me seem like the bad guy just because I don't think in the same way.

[Stephen]

say you got bullied at school and everyone hated you calling you fat and ugly and throwing food at you at lunch
then your parents die in a car crash while you're at home looking after mr cuddles the cat, your only friend
he then dies a week later cos cats are horrible creatures so someone murdered it for pooing in their garden

but after all that yano why would you self harm or think about killing yourself? you'd obviously just take your cold black heart and move on forgetting that everyone you love has died because killing urself is sooo sooooo selfish because other people haven't experienced what you're going through

[Circadia]

To say peoples opinions are 'disgusting' is a bit far isn't it? We have a right to an opinion and just because a high proportion of people might disagree with it doesn't make it any less wrong.

[dbgtz]

say you got bullied at school and everyone hated you calling you fat and ugly and throwing food at you at lunch
then your parents die in a car crash while you're at home looking after mr cuddles the cat, your only friend
he then dies a week later cos cats are horrible creatures so someone murdered it for pooing in their garden

but after all that yano why would you self harm or think about killing yourself? you'd obviously just take your cold black heart and move on forgetting that everyone you love has died because killing urself is sooo sooooo selfish because other people haven't experienced what you're going through

If this was aimed at me never did I once state they were selfish nor said anything relating to myself. I also stated that I sympathise for some so you wouldn't know what I thought as each case isn't indentical. Throughout life you're taught to overcome obstacles (even if you don't know it), no matter how big they are and there's always something to live for afterwards.

[Cerys]

To say peoples opinions are 'disgusting' is a bit far isn't it? We have a right to an opinion and just because a high proportion of people might disagree with it doesn't make it any less wrong.

It's disgusting because some of these opinions will possibly make people self harm even more.
For example mrwoo calling me an idiot for doing it

It's uncalled for .

Do you see what I mean?

[dbgtz]

It's disgusting because some of these opinions will possibly make people self harm even more.
For example mrwoo calling me an idiot for doing it

It's uncalled for .

Do you see what I mean?


it's an addiction like smoking

You can't call something an addiction and then blame someone else for it. No one forces the smoker to smoke...

[Circadia]

It's disgusting because some of these opinions will possibly make people self harm even more.
For example mrwoo calling me an idiot for doing it

It's uncalled for .

Do you see what I mean?

If you're that sensitive to what people say then why are you on a public forum? Plus, it is a pretty idiotic thing to do, you could easily go too far and harm yourself more than you intentionally wanted to.

[FlyingJesus]

Throughout life you're taught to overcome obstacles (even if you don't know it), no matter how big they are and there's always something to live for afterwards.

Yes but the medical fact of the matter is that it's not as simple as "get over it!", especially when there's actually a difference in the wiring of the brain as with trauma victims and those with mental health problems. Opinions in general are fine, uninformed opinions however are harmful and preaching them only leads to more ignorance and myth

[buttons]

If you're that sensitive to what people say then why are you on a public forum? Plus, it is a pretty idiotic thing to do, you could easily go too far and harm yourself more than you intentionally wanted to.
cause why should people be attacked on a forum
many of us go there cause they get it enough irl, you dont expect it to be on a forum
this forum is the worst for it
i agree people shouldnt be sensitive to others but that aint the only reason why people self-harm yknow. idiotic? will you stop using that word? and actually read up on peoples self-harm experiences to understand WHY they do it.

[MKR&*42]

You can't call something an addiction and then blame someone else for it. No one forces the smoker to smoke...

You can blame other people for making it even worse. If someone else constantly mocks someone because they self-harm, or knows that they self-harm and tries to make them worse about themselves, then they are to blame for "strengthening the addiction".

If not, you're justifying me going around and telling all people who have attempted suicide (and failed) that they should do it again and all sorts of verbal ****. 'Cause you know, not my fault at all entirely their decision totally not influenced/strengthened by anyone...

[Cerys]

If you're that sensitive to what people say then why are you on a public forum? Plus, it is a pretty idiotic thing to do, you could easily go too far and harm yourself more than you intentionally wanted to.

Like said above, I go on forums to get away from everything. Like a place to escape.
You honestly don't understand.

+
dbgtz;
basically what Warren said. It makes things worse. Most of the time those people who say things are a factor in the beginning of the self harm anyway. for me that is

[Circadia]

cause why should people be attacked on a forum
many of us go there cause they get it enough irl, you dont expect it to be on a forum
this forum is the worst for it
i agree people shouldnt be sensitive to others but that aint the only reason why people self-harm yknow. idiotic? will you stop using that word? and actually read up on peoples self-harm experiences to understand WHY they do it.

We aren't 'attacking' the people who self-harm we are stating an opinion which people clearly keep forgetting. I've personally been close to self harming before but I soon realised it was a stupid thought and told someone about what was happening. Why should I stop using the word? It's the truth because fighting your own instinct (to keep yourself out of harm) is pretty silly thing to do.

[Cerys]

We aren't 'attacking' the people who self-harm we are stating an opinion which people clearly keep forgetting. I've personally been close to self harming before but I soon realised it was a stupid thought and told someone about what was happening. Why should I stop using the word? It's the truth because fighting your own instinct (to keep yourself out of harm) is pretty silly thing to do.

You do attack people though. Loads of you do.
People come on here to, what it seems like, find someone weak and throw loads of abuse at them, accuse them of things and more,until they can't take it anymore. And don't say people don't, because you and I both know it happens.

[FlyingJesus]

If you'd care to actually learn anything about mental illness and how it manifests before calling sufferers stupid that would be fab. As I said before, uninformed opinion is not worth voicing

[buttons]

We aren't 'attacking' the people who self-harm we are stating an opinion which people clearly keep forgetting. I've personally been close to self harming before but I soon realised it was a stupid thought and told someone about what was happening. Why should I stop using the word? It's the truth because fighting your own instinct (to keep yourself out of harm) is pretty silly thing to do.
uh if you understood self-harm many do it because it releases you from unhappiness/harm in the frst place.
i agree people should never self-harm but it isnt as easy as get a psychiatrist or talk to someone especially when the people you should be able to talk to are the one who've made u feel that way in the first place. its an inner battle with yourself and you control this pain cause u cant control the rest. its not easy for me to explain but yes i get defensive when people are insensitive about it.

back to the point, its an awareness day and a day for support. personally doesnt help me but if it helps anyone else im not gonna be a miserable ******* coming to bring people down by calling it stupid.

[dbgtz]

Yes but the medical fact of the matter is that it's not as simple as "get over it!", especially when there's actually a difference in the wiring of the brain as with trauma victims and those with mental health problems. Opinions in general are fine, uninformed opinions however are harmful and preaching them only leads to more ignorance and myth

Lol how do you know if I'm uninformed? You pretty much just contradicted yourself there.


You can blame other people for making it even worse. If someone else constantly mocks someone because they self-harm, or knows that they self-harm and tries to make them worse about themselves, then they are to blame for "strengthening the addiction".

If not, you're justifying me going around and telling all people who have attempted suicide (and failed) that they should do it again and all sorts of verbal ****. 'Cause you know, not my fault at all entirely their decision totally not influenced/strengthened by anyone...

There's a difference between egging someone on and called them idiots.

[FlyingJesus]

I know you're uninformed because you said you don't understand it :S and because you're displaying absolutely no knowledge of the subject whatsoever

[MKR&*42]

Lol how do you know if I'm uninformed? You pretty much just contradicted yourself there.



There's a difference between egging someone on and called them idiots.

Explain the difference? Using the term 'idiot' is hardly positive and, although it's minor compared to other stuff that could be said, it's still not going to improve the situation. A psychiatrist would not bluntly say to someone "you are an idiot for self-harming".

[dbgtz]

I know you're uninformed because you said you don't understand it :S and because you're displaying absolutely no knowledge of the subject whatsoever

I have read a lot of cases on the subject and my mother has some sort of depression like illness, I'm not sure exactly what it is called.


Explain the difference? Using the term 'idiot' is hardly positive and, although it's minor compared to other stuff that could be said, it's still not going to improve the situation. A psychiatrist would not bluntly say to someone "you are an idiot for self-harming".

Because one's directly telling them to do it and the other is just insulting them... I never said it was positive but it is completely different.

[FlyingJesus]

I've read books about space travel and my friend has a telescope but I'm still not an astronaut

[Samantha]

can completely relate to it becoming addictive because you know whenever you feel sad it will ALWAYS make you feel better so you use any excuse to do it and turn to it every time, it is like an addiction. also i didn't self harm for 6 years but i still had my blade in my jewellery box and on a particularly bad day i found it again and got an adrenaline rush. you start to make the associations, self harm = instant relief and happiness, well maybe happiness isnt the correct word but you at least feel 'okay' again.
its all a control thing, when i'd be unscrewing my sharpener for the blade or cutting around the blade of a razor with the knife, id accidently cut myself. even though they would be the least painful and only leave a little mark, they'd be the worst cuts because you weren't prepared for it, you weren't in control of your pain. + when you cut the deepest and panic, you think that's the last time you'll ever self-harm but its not, you do it again because it IS like an addiction, the relieved feeling you get afterwards is the addiction... but this time you'll be more careful, more in control of it. but it also controls you too because its always in the back of your mind, reminding yourself that all you need to do when you feel bad is pick up the blade. its like your best friend and worst enemy.
"hoping no-one asks but the same time hope they do" and "buying long sleeved shirts, hoodies, bracelets" etc i know the feeling too well. the worst part is when you see people notice and they don't say or do anything. sometimes you see them checking your arms when they're talkin to you and you want to scream out "self harming isn't only done on the wrists" but you dont. you cover it up in embarrassment. self harming isnt just slitting either. when you have a bad day, you get drunk. you self harm your body in order to feel good. that's what self-harming with a blade is too. but still, self-harmers are looked down on. and it makes me so mad that people tell you you're an idiot for it. well, you're a hypocrite. we all do things that make us happy. (not telling people to go out self harm if they feel bad no way as it can become like an addiction, just realize you probably self harm in many ways too.) going shopping, seeing a cute top or dress but not buying it because it will just be covered up by the jumper or shirt you're going to wear to hide your scars..
i feel sick knowing i don't have my 'safety net', my blade, in my room. whenever life gets really bad i need it to be there. and if its not, i replace it with something else. if i dont have a blade in my room, as ive thrown out many thinking i can get through it, then i can simply go to the shop to buy some alcohol. self harmers are no different to anyone else. we've all done something similar to ease pain.
i agree, i wish i never made the first cut. was 13 when i did. didn't do it for 6 years (guess i replaced it with alcohol :P) until i remembered it would make me feel better, not sure ill ever get over it. such an easy way to get relief..

uhhhh i wrote this cause i like to put into words how i feel about a topic. tis another sense of relief i get. debated on posting it but i will, so you know you're not alone. i know people who look down on self-harmers or would rather not be my friend if they knew. guess we really don't like what we can't understand. also hope they're not stupid enough to air these kind of opinion such as "idiot. attention seeker" in real life because they have no idea whether one of their friends or family self-harm. you really have no idea who does it but its a lot more common than you think. remember if you do say it to someone who self-harms, they'll feel more ashamed than they already do. worst thing for me is knowing my friends know but don't ask me about it or offer help but at the same time, im glad they dont, cause i feel ashamed bout it and wouldnt want to talk about it.. i fear getting caught, why do humans fear others knowing theyre unhappy? fear of talking about our mental states, our sadness, rejection, fears :S id probably stop if someone did know and acknowledged it at least. why should we be made to feel ashamed for wanting to feel a little bit of happiness? i dont see the sense in making someone feel worse than they already do and im very hesitant to admit something like this because people use it against you but never explain why its an insult. so i won't allow myself to be insulted by it. nor should you.

wootzeh, i'd rather be an idiot than a narrow minded fool. you can have your opinion all you like but i really hope you're not stupid enough to say that to anyone irl when you have no idea whether they self harm or not. im gonna guess you haven't been in the situation to understand why someone would do it and how they feel about it. Samanfa; thats my reasoning for it. im so angry sometimes that i cant express it, i won't throw things and i won't hurt another person for it. id rather hurt myself so i do. way i see it is self-harmers hurt themselves rather than someone else so why are they looked down on so much?

Ah I understand that, yeah I don't understand why anyone would look down on someone as really they're no different than others with an addiction or something like that. I'll read more later :P.

[Circadia]

You do attack people though. Loads of you do.
People come on here to, what it seems like, find someone weak and throw loads of abuse at them, accuse them of things and more,until they can't take it anymore. And don't say people don't, because you and I both know it happens.

I'm not attacking people! I felt that you saying that someones opinion was disgusting a little bit far. I also find it quite funny how I'm being told that I am attacking people yet in the reasons boxes for the -rep i'm being called 'Stupid' and 'Ignorant' cause that certainly does wonders for the self esteem doesn't it?


If you'd care to actually learn anything about mental illness and how it manifests before calling sufferers stupid that would be fab. As I said before, uninformed opinion is not worth voicing


uh if you understood self-harm many do it because it releases you from unhappiness/harm in the frst place.
i agree people should never self-harm but it isnt as easy as get a psychiatrist or talk to someone especially when the people you should be able to talk to are the one who've made u feel that way in the first place. its an inner battle with yourself and you control this pain cause u cant control the rest. its not easy for me to explain but yes i get defensive when people are insensitive about it.

back to the point, its an awareness day and a day for support. personally doesnt help me but if it helps anyone else im not gonna be a miserable ******* coming to bring people down by calling it stupid.

I've learnt through personal experiences about mental illnesses, my mum was diagnosed with depression about 5/6 years ago and after 3 years of aggressive bullying I was close to self harming myself. I found my OWN thoughts of cutting myself stupid because it is a stupid thing to do!

[Cerys]

I'm not attacking people! I felt that you saying that someones opinion was disgusting a little bit far. I also find it quite funny how I'm being told that I am attacking people yet in the reasons boxes for the -rep i'm being called 'Stupid' and 'Ignorant' cause that certainly does wonders for the self esteem doesn't it?

I didn't mean you personally attack people, just people in general on this forum. Now imagine what it'd feel like to be called that part in the bold if you also were self harming. It'd be awful, wouldn't it. That's why I think that people thinking you're stupid for doing it is disgusting.

[Stephen]

anyway since when did self harm mean just cutting yourself?

[dbgtz]

I've read books about space travel and my friend has a telescope but I'm still not an astronaut

So by that logic your view has as much backing as mine.

[Cerys]

anyway since when did self harm mean just cutting yourself?

I think it's cos it's the most common/easiest to do or something, so people are just saying cutting
idek

[mrwoooooooo]

I've read books about space travel and my friend has a telescope but I'm still not an astronaut

well you would need a rocket for that, i think you meant physicist

[buttons]

anyway since when did self harm mean just cutting yourself?
this is what i keep saying. people assume its slitting your wrists. it isn't. one thing many people want to do when they've had a bad or stressful weekend is to go get drunk with a poison or drugs. they intentionally use something harmful to ease pain, same as slitting yourself, pulling out your hair, scratching yourself or anything else. for some reason its not okay to hurt yourself but its okay to hurt other people (like calling others idiots for hurting themselves) and smash things up or whatever..

also not everyone who self harms has a mental illness nor does everyone with a mental illness self-harm or want to :S. my reasoning for it is cause of anger over an issue i can't actually change that will prob hurt me for rest of my life so excuse me if i get defensive when people tell me im an idiot or there are better ways to deal with it when there is no dealing with it. i already know its not a good thing to do but its not WRONG nor is it easy to stop doing (well if you find somethin that makes you feel better, you'll hold onto that right?) and it gives me relief in any moment i need it. i hope other people find better ways to deal with it and thats what the awareness day should be about, helping each other not degrading others for something u dont know about. so i wont give up trying to teach people that its not as simple as attention seeking or taking easy ways out of your problems.

doesnt matter if you know of someone who has had mental illness or you yourself has it does not mean you understand self harm if you haven't been in that position. even then, everyones situation differs. well whatever. ive already said too much so im done but really, these arent the type of people i want to be friends with or even talk to so.. bye

[Calvin]

I've read books about space travel and my friend has a telescope but I'm still not an astronautSo you're saying that everybody needs to have a professional background in order to voice an opinion on this matter? :rolleyes: Where's yours then?

[FlyingJesus]

I said nothing about profession where did that come from :S

[Ardemax]

Yeah, but some opinions on this are just disgusting... it is just awful to even think/say what their opinions are on this topic

It's to be expected on a teenage internet forum, I'm afraid.


As said above, their opinions are disgraceful. I also do not like people who try to justify those who are being a **** with the phrase "It's just my opinion."

(*I'm not saying you're doing that, just stating that's similar to what happened before and will probably happen in this thread furthermore.)

Their opinions may be disgraceful to you, but it's not going to change them :)

[Cerys]

It's to be expected on a teenage internet forum, I'm afraid.


Would've expected better from most of this forum. But yeah, I guess so.

[Stephen]

atleast now i know why people have been called brave for posting their depression stories on here

[MKR&*42]

Their opinions may be disgraceful to you, but it's not going to change them :)

Don't believe I said they would change lol?

[buttons]

LOL ikr Stephen and I find it so funny how we all vote for MIND and depression for our habbox charity then act like this? and speaking of mind, here's a great article

http://www.mind.org.uk/mental_health_a-z/8006_understanding_self-harm

think these parts are important :
It's worth remembering that most people behave self-destructively at times, even if they don't realise it. Perfectly ordinary behaviour, such as smoking, eating and drinking too much, or working long hours, day after day, can all be helping people to numb or distract themselves and avoid being alone with their thoughts and feelings.



Men


If men conform to the macho stereotype that expressing emotion is a weakness, it can leave them unable to fully experience their feelings, and detached from that side of themselves. They may have less difficulty showing anger than women, but if they are in prison, where pent-up feelings can't be released, men are more likely to turn to self-harm, especially if they have been abused.



The trigger could be a reminder of the past (such as an anniversary) which sets off a hidden memory, or something unexpected could happen to cause a shake-up. But sometimes, ordinary life is just so difficult that self-harm is the only way to cope with it.

If experiences were so painful they forced you to deal with your emotions by hurting yourself, you may now seriously doubt whether you can deal with them in any other way.

it's not just teenage girls or whatever stereotype you may ave it's men women children professional etc and most all humans with a life and feelings..
ardemax aim of self harm awareness day is to make people with such opinions aware of their misconceptions and ignorance, i have changed a few people's minds before, think people have to actually be in communication with a person or see a situation with their own eyes before they can truly understand it. ive changed my mind on people and situations before so it's completely possible..

[Adam]

Weirdos.

[geo]

i'm kinda shocked with some of the replies in the thread. it's all well and good having an opinion on something like self harm, but if your opinion is gonna cause a little hurt to those that do self harm (for the likes of calling them idiots, when you know damn well that people on this forum have self harmed) then it was just unnecessary. i mean, you could have still given your opinion and just worded it a little differently without causing confrontation, yet some of you continued to repeat opinions that were obviously not looked lightly upon on this thread which i don't quite get.


mhmm, don't really wanna add much more to my post in regards to my experiences and i'm not exactly sure what i would put but i do think people on this forum should just be a little more considerate with what they're posting, especially on topics like this.

[Adam]

Just because an opinion is unpopular it doesn't make it any less valid.

[geo]

Just because an opinion is unpopular it doesn't make it any less valid.

i know, but you should just take into consideration a few things about self harm before calling those who do it weirdos, losers, etc. no wonder people haven't been happy with some of the opinions in here because they could have been said in a nicer way or not said at all, to avoid hurting others. idgi

[Cerys]

or working long hours, day after day, can all be helping people to numb or distract themselves and avoid being alone with their thoughts and feelings.


That's what I do tbh. I don't want to come home from school as I know when I get home I'm gonna be alone til 7pm, even if stopping later at school doesn't really keep me from being alone either.. atleast it stops me from doing something major i'll regret. and even at 7pm when my mum gets home, she's in her bedroom the rest of the night working so i dont see her. my dad has run off with my brother and a different family and he has cut off all connections with me so i dont ever talk to him or my brother anymore. every day in school i sit in lessons with tables full of people who laugh at me and call me stuff until the bell goes, but im not brave enough to ask to be moved as i know it'll cause more problems which i dont want. my best friend has replaced me and only talks to me when she wants to complain about stuff. luckily, i suppose, i have got a new friend who has so far been there for me, but now what seems like my only friend is getting more distant from me, not wanting to talk to me anymore or sit with me. i dont really want to go much more into the school situation as it hurts too much to talk about it.
i have been getting panic attacks for three years now - it feels like i am being strangled and everything goes blurry and dizzy, like i am about to collapse. it's freaking scary.. feels like you could die at any second.. but then again, would anyone care? i have only just told my mum about the panic attacks, but i dont think i could ever tell her about the self harm.

when i get home from school i go on the computer til the early hours to try and escape it all. but that never happens. everything ends up following me, even gets worse some times. for example last night.. i logged onto habbo for the first time in ages to be greeted by three boys from this forum laughing and taking the pee out of my dog who died recently, repeatedly saying my dog is probably fake and never existed, that i should cut him up into small chunks and just laughing at me in general about everything and much more for about 2 hours non stop. they just wouldn't stop... i dont understand how they could get entertainment out of making someone breakdown. by this point i am in tears, shaking, struggling to breathe and going to the kitchen for a knife and whatever is in the medicine cabinet.
i finally get to bed, looking for free spaces on my arms or legs then occupying them. then the cycle continues the next morning. you may not think that everything is that bad, but trust me, after years of this happening, its now unbearable. i just have to get out of here.

[Catchy]

no-one mentioned about anyone being mentally stable? :S there are lots of reason. someone may do it because they have no feelings in themselves so cut themselves to try feel something, its been quite common in sociopaths. other people do it because they have too much feelings that they can't express themselves and its the only way they can personally rid of that feeling. you've never been in that situation therefore you don't understand and pass it off as being weird or idiotic. anyway, i don't like to talk to people without basic empathy so i wont. id say im more emotionally stable than many as in i don't care about what others say no longer nor care about fitting in, so i wouldn't do it because im being bullied. there are other personal reasons i do it. all i know is it makes me feel better and that's enough for me.

eugh adam seriously your opinion is fine, i hope no-one you're close to is struggling from a mental disorder because if you were to say that to someone you'd make them feel a lot worse.

what.... if people are doing this they're OBVIOUSLY mentally unstable or just begging for attention. My question is, if people really hate their life that much why don't they jus top emselves and be done with it? Harsh but it's my opinion sorry.

[Adam]

what.... if people are doing this they're OBVIOUSLY mentally unstable or just begging for attention. My question is, if people really hate their life that much why don't they jus top emselves and be done with it? Harsh but it's my opinion sorry.

greed and selfishness is why it is done. although they're idiots because if they kill themselves it's like beating yourself at sports. who wins? nobody. idiots.

**** it, turn to drugs if it's that bad. life isn't that bad. it is what you make it.

[Catchy]

greed and selfishness is why it is done. although they're idiots because if they kill themselves it's like beating yourself at sports. who wins? nobody. idiots.

**** it, turn to drugs if it's that bad. life isn't that bad. it is what you make it.

didnt understand a word of that.

[Adam]

didnt understand a word of that.

me neither, I can't be arsed to write coherently when dealing with situations like this.

short version: man up, ******s.

[Cerys]

You lot honestly disgust me. You probably have never been in most of our situations, so how can you comment. To be honest, some of you even make our situations worse yet you're telling us WE'RE the idiots? Yeah, sure.

[Adam]

You lot honestly disgust me. You probably have never been in most of our situations, so how can you comment. To be honest, some of you even make our situations worse yet you're telling us WE'RE the idiots? Yeah, sure.

i've been a victim of long term bullying, close family dying etc etc but that is life, you deal with it. if you accept defeat then what's the point? like i said it's like beating yourself at a game.

[sex]

greed and selfishness is why it is done. although they're idiots because if they kill themselves it's like beating yourself at sports. who wins? nobody. idiots.

**** it, turn to drugs if it's that bad. life isn't that bad. it is what you make it.

no its not, you really have no clue about anything to do with the topic so maybe you should stop voicing your WRONG ignorant views

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i've been a victim of long term bullying, close family dying etc etc but that is life, you deal with it. if you accept defeat then what's the point? like i said it's like beating yourself at a game.

not everyone can deal with it.... how can you not understand that. lol :S

[buttons]

what.... if people are doing this they're OBVIOUSLY mentally unstable or just begging for attention. My question is, if people really hate their life that much why don't they jus top emselves and be done with it? Harsh but it's my opinion sorry.
what? Adam said 'which sane person would self harm' and i said no-one said they were mentally stable..

cause self harm is nothing to do with killing yourself, it's more to do with getting a relief, can be something done in the moment and as i say self harm comes in many forms, can be taking drugs and alcohol to forget problems work long hours so they don't have to be alone with their thoughts etc. you can self harm cause of one problem in your life doesn't mean you don't have many other things to live for. could self harm cause they have so much repressed feelings ie struggling to cope with feelings of homosexuality, can be based on a specific problem at that moment that you can't deal with so you self harm only then, not because an underlying mental condition has caused it etc. Many self harm and try to commit suicidewhile many self harm and want to live, tis an individual case not everything fits all.

it's nice that you let things go so easily adam, wonder if you'd do the same if you were constantly abused as a child and not allowed to speak out so that's how you deal with, everyone has a different way of dealing with things.

[Adam]

it's nice that you let things go so easily adam, wonder if you'd do the same if you were constantly abused as a child and not allowed to speak out so that's how you deal with, everyone has a different way of dealing with things.
i don't doubt it, one bit. I know it happens it's not like i'm turning a blind eye to it. my girlfriend is an ex-cutter or whatever you want to call it so i have a little insight.

the fact is, your bullying and hurting yourself ALONG with the pain you're already putting up with (or not putting up with) doesn't make sense. you're essentially double downing yourself.

it's idiotic. yes there should be more help/services/charities w/e for people like this to realise how much of an idiot they are being to let something anger them that badly.

i feel sorry for them, you, w/e but self harmers are idiots.

[Cerys]

i've been a victim of long term bullying, close family dying etc etc but that is life, you deal with it. if you accept defeat then what's the point? like i said it's like beating yourself at a game.

oh well thats a shame, but not everybody can cope as well as you can. Everyone's different and if you have a problem with people not being to cope with anything and everything then seriously... ugh

And SERIOUSLY; Stop calling us idiots. All you're doing is hurting us even more and making the chances of harm go even higher. Use a change of words..

[sex]

i don't doubt it, one bit. I know it happens it's not like i'm turning a blind eye to it. my girlfriend is an ex-cutter or whatever you want to call it so i have a little insight.

the fact is, your bullying and hurting yourself ALONG with the pain you're already putting up with (or not putting up with) doesn't make sense. you're essentially double downing yourself.

it's idiotic. yes there should be more help/services/charities w/e for people like this to realise how much of an idiot they are being to let something anger them that badly.

i feel sorry for them, you, w/e but self harmers are idiots.


tell your girlfriend shes an idiot and we will see how long she stays with you

[Adam]

tell your girlfriend shes an idiot and we will see how long she stays with you

i have. she agreed.

[MKR&*42]

greed and selfishness is why it is done.

What a load of ******* **** ****.

Lol people are so selfish for taking anger out on themselves because of how they're TREATED BY OTHER PEOPLE? I'm pretty sure if someone was to harm themselves, the last thing they would care about it IS THEMSELVES.

Swear to ******** God I don't know how half this forum get through life with attitudes like this.

[buttons]

greed and selfishness is why it is done. although they're idiots because if they kill themselves it's like beating yourself at sports. who wins? nobody. idiots.

**** it, turn to drugs if it's that bad. life isn't that bad. it is what you make it.
btw, turning to drugs when life gets bad is a form of self-harm you know? you talk about greed and selfishness when taking drugs is one of the most selfish things you could do, it ruins people around you too, if you're talking cutting yourself then you're only harming yourself as generally you keep it hidden so it can't exactly hurt anyone else. sometimes life is truly bad or you have something you CAN'T change, life isn't always wht you make it, sometimes all u can do is ignore it which is harmful in itself

i don't doubt it, one bit. I know it happens it's not like i'm turning a blind eye to it. my girlfriend is an ex-cutter or whatever you want to call it so i have a little insight.

the fact is, your bullying and hurting yourself ALONG with the pain you're already putting up with (or not putting up with) doesn't make sense. you're essentially double downing yourself.

it's idiotic. yes there should be more help/services/charities w/e for people like this to realise how much of an idiot they are being to let something anger them that badly.

i feel sorry for them, you, w/e but self harmers are idiots.
lots of things are idiotic, alcohol and drugs are idiotic and im sure you do at least one of them. but yes the point of awareness day is to educate and give help advice on other tactics to get rid of anger, not to degrade people for the way they deal with it now. i don't cut myself often unless theres something in that specific moment i cant escape and it provides temporary relief, generally drink alcohol instead but when there isn't alcohol, there's that safety net, but drinking alcohol as a form of relief is more acceptable than this when its pretty much the same yet never seen as a problem. i agree it's a silly thing to do but once you've done it once it is like an addiction cause you always know you'll get the instant relief from it

What a load of ******* **** ****.

Lol people are so selfish for taking anger out on themselves because of how they're TREATED BY OTHER PEOPLE? I'm pretty sure if someone was to harm themselves, the last thing they would care about it IS THEMSELVES.

Swear to ******** God I don't know how half this forum get through life with attitudes like this.
+1
really i think it's a case of people knowing it will wind us up and their only justification against self harm is 'idiot, weird' etc but when we give our own justifications many of them stop posting ive seen lol so it's probably just an excuse to argue :) hopefully it's caused some awareness anyway

[mrwoooooooo]

Swear to ******** God I don't know how half this forum get through life with attitudes like this.

quite easily really, just not be as outspoken in real life as the internet

[Cerys]

quite easily really, just not be as outspoken in real life as the internet

That's the trouble with the internet though. People think they can do whatever the hell they want. I seriously hope that oneday they shall slip up in real life and reveal their true thoughts/personalities etc

[MKR&*42]

quite easily really, just not be as outspoken in real life as the internet

Fair enough :P

[dbgtz]

btw, turning to drugs when life gets bad is a form of self-harm you know? you talk about greed and selfishness when taking drugs is one of the most selfish things you could do, it ruins people around you too, if you're talking cutting yourself then you're only harming yourself as generally you keep it hidden so it can't exactly hurt anyone else. sometimes life is truly bad or you have something you CAN'T change, life isn't always wht you make it, sometimes all u can do is ignore it which is harmful in itself

lots of things are idiotic, alcohol and drugs are idiotic and im sure you do at least one of them. but yes the point of awareness day is to educate and give help advice on other tactics to get rid of anger, not to degrade people for the way they deal with it now. i don't cut myself often unless theres something in that specific moment i cant escape and it provides temporary relief, generally drink alcohol instead but when there isn't alcohol, there's that safety net, but drinking alcohol as a form of relief is more acceptable than this when its pretty much the same yet never seen as a problem. i agree it's a silly thing to do but once you've done it once it is like an addiction cause you always know you'll get the instant relief from it

What about those who gain pleasure rather than relief?


That's the trouble with the internet though. People think they can do whatever the hell they want. I seriously hope that oneday they shall slip up in real life and reveal their true thoughts/personalities etc

I'd like to clarify I do state my opinion on anything should it come up so don't assume I use the internet as a shield.

[Stephen]

I'd like to clarify I do state my opinion on anything should it come up so don't assume I use the internet as a shield.

i sense bull ****

[bam..its..abbz]

Ok everyone's entiltled to their own opinion, but people saying people with mental illnesses and self harm are idiots, because you've just offended me and alot of others on this forum

[Ardemax]

Don't believe I said they would change lol?

Neither did I, I'm just saying any attempt to change someones opinion in this thread seems very flawed :)


Ok everyone's entiltled to their own opinion, but people saying people with mental illnesses and self harm are idiots, because you've just offended me and alot of others on this forum

Where has someone said that people with mental illnesses are idiots?

[bam..its..abbz]

Neither did I, I'm just saying any attempt to change someones opinion in this thread seems very flawed :)



Where has someone said that people with mental illnesses are idiots?

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[Ardemax]

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They didn't call people with mental illnesses idiots did they? Unless I'm mistaken

[FlyingJesus]

LOLPFL IF PPL HGARM THEY R DUM

Seriously if you don't know anything about this topic then don't post because you're just showing how ignorant and stupid you are. Something being beyond your cogniscance isn't grounds for abuse

[Okeanos]

just wanted to say that people who are proper self harmers (that is to say there is a medical reason for their behavior) are the people least likely to draw attention to what they do, or even talk about it. cutting yourself doesnt mean you self harm, they are totally different things. i doubt any of you are real self harmers.

kids who kid themselves into believing they have issues annoy me to no end.

[Empired]

kids who kid themselves into believing they have issues annoy me to no end.

although this is annoying when people claim to be ill (usually mentally not physically) but i think the people who really DO have issues are then stuck because they convince themselves that they're just making a fuss over nothing. the people who shout about having issues are usually not nearly as ill as they say they are, but sometimes they can be.
it's not our judgement to make about whether a person is ill or not anyway, that's up to counselors, GPs, etc.

[Stephen]

just wanted to say that people who are proper self harmers (that is to say there is a medical reason for their behavior) are the people least likely to draw attention to what they do, or even talk about it. cutting yourself doesnt mean you self harm, they are totally different things. i doubt any of you are real self harmers.

kids who kid themselves into believing they have issues annoy me to no end.

Surely that's only true in the real world. Posting that you self harm on a teen forum is a lot different to bragging about it irl

Also how did you come up with cutting yourself doesn't mean self harm lol
What a ******ed thing to say :lol:

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[FlyingJesus]

Threads like these are the reason -rep should be visible as well as +rep

[Adam]

just wanted to say that people who are proper self harmers (that is to say there is a medical reason for their behavior) are the people least likely to draw attention to what they do, or even talk about it. cutting yourself doesnt mean you self harm, they are totally different things. i doubt any of you are real self harmers.

kids who kid themselves into believing they have issues annoy me to no end.
So it's a hipster thing now?

Like people who "knew that band before it was cool"? Jeez, kids...

[Circadia]

This is my last post in this thread because its pathetic

I got sent this following image
http://i.imgur.com/UG1awdY.png

Which upset me incredibly, because being told my name made someone 'cringe' isn't a great thing to be shown when someone is already upset

I've been called stupid and ignorant. I am neither of these as for a start, as I have said multiple times, I HAVE BEEN CLOSE TO SELF HARMING MYSELF I TRIED TO BURN MYSELF WITH HOT WATER CAN YOU ******* UNDERSTAND ME WITH CAPS LOCK ON NOW? I am also not stupid as stupid would mean I couldn't do the simplest of tasks which is far from the truth.

You said I was attacking people with my opinion, yet, as soon as i'm not able to read what you are putting I'm said to make someone 'cringe' to be someones 'bum buddy' and to be called wrong for stating an opinion. If you don't know what opinion means, go back to ******* school.

The people on this forum are the worst bunch of hypocrites ever. I was told that my words could easily upset someone yet you have the cheek to do the same back to me? I include myself when I say the forum is a bunch of hypocrites because I pointed out the fact that if someone can't handle an opinion they shouldn't be on a public forum, but I'm not going to lie what you said made me cry. Call me a liar call me pathetic call me whatever you want. I am beyond caring what some brave people behind a computer screen have to say. Its pathetic and I thought in this day and age people wouldn't automatically assume that because someone has the same opinion they have to be ******* because damn a female can't have an opinion without someone feeding them what to say right?

Grow the **** up. I'm going to leave the forum for a while because I don't want to have to deal with people like you for much longer

[MKR&*42]

This is my last post in this thread because its pathetic

Which upset me incredibly, because being told my name made someone 'cringe' isn't a great thing to be shown when someone is already upset

Where is that said? I'm sure that screenshot only suggests that the word "cuts" makes someone cringe?


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In all fairness, the stuff you've said in this thread barely scrapes the surface of "bad" if compared to what other people have being say lol. If you hadn't said "idiotic" you wouldn't be at fault at all.


I don't want to have to deal with people like you for much longer

Now you probably know how Jen and others feel in regards to people's attitude in this thread lol.

Btw @ everyone else, mrwoooooo is the only one who front-up said that people who are mentally unstable are idiots... not dbgtz?
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Oh yeah I forgot what originally annoyed me;


because damn a female can't have an opinion without someone feeding them what to say right?

What an outdated view.

[scottish]

******* because damn a female can't have an opinion without someone feeding them what to say right?

yet the 2 people you're arguing against are female

why would you even say that lol

[buttons]

Which upset me incredibly, because being told my name made someone 'cringe' isn't a great thing to be shown when someone is already upset.
can't you apply that to our situation? we were called idiots and stupid, so we got defensive and upset yet you and others chimed in to say the exact same thing? yes you're right, it isn't a great thing to be slagged off when you're already upset which was evident by our posts in this thread. you never mentioned anything about being upset before they said that.

I've been called stupid and ignorant. I am neither of these as for a start
nor are we but didn't stop anyone else from saying it.

and:

If you're that sensitive to what people say then why are you on a public forum? Plus, it is a pretty idiotic thing to do, you could easily go too far and harm yourself more than you intentionally wanted to.
you wrote this in the very same thread saying we're too sensitive to what people say. now do you understand us? :S



I thought in this day and age people wouldn't automatically assume that because someone has the same opinion they have to be ******* because damn a female can't have an opinion without someone feeding them what to say right?
pretty sure you made that up


Grow the **** up. I'm going to leave the forum for a while because I don't want to have to deal with people like you for much longer
i said that earlier too. looks like neither of us can handle an opinion lol

[Okeanos]

Surely that's only true in the real world. Posting that you self harm on a teen forum is a lot different to bragging about it irl

Also how did you come up with cutting yourself doesn't mean self harm lol
What a ******ed thing to say :lol:

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posting it on so called self harm forums (or any online forum) is just as bad, if not worse. do you actually know anything about this? don't answer that actually because it is obvious you don't, and no - cutting yourself does not make you an authority. cutting oneself is actually a very common thing among teenage girls, it hardly ever stems from self-harm. it is just a phase many girls and some boys go through.

[FlyingJesus]

I love how the guy who knows so little about the subject that he literally says harming oneself isn't self harm is telling someone that he knows nothing.

[Stephen]

posting it on so called self harm forums (or any online forum) is just as bad, if not worse. do you actually know anything about this? don't answer that actually because it is obvious you don't, and no - cutting yourself does not make you an authority. cutting oneself is actually a very common thing among teenage girls, it hardly ever stems from self-harm. it is just a phase many girls and some boys go through.

well clearly it looks like i know more about it than you

[Okeanos]

well clearly it looks like i know more about it than you

im not sure why you think that, because youre wrong. *REMOVED*

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post insensitive comments that may offend other users.

[Stephen]

K you're just trolling now

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[mrwoooooooo]

lulz look at all the agro from the use of the word idiot

idiots

[Ardemax]

And I thought posting about a sensitive issue to a teenage forum hoping for a mature response was a good idea :rolleyes:

[Cerys]

Seriously...
can we just stop posting in here now?