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06-03-2013, 09:20 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/06/rand-paul-filibuster-drones-brennan
Rand Paul keeps going with filibuster in bid to block Brennan appointment
Kentucky senator makes speech in protest at comments from officials over possibility of carrying out drone strikes on US soil
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Rand Paul began his filibuster at 11.45am and was still going more than two hours later. Photograph: Jonathan Ernst/Reuters
Senator Rand Paul on Wednesday began a rare talking filibuster in order to try and block the appointment of new CIA chief John Brennan over his attitude to President Barack Obama's controversial drones policy.
The move, made famous in popular culture by James Stewart in the film Mr Smith Goes to Washington, involves trying to block a piece of legislation by speaking for as long as possible, though rule changes have largely reduced it to a publicity stunt.
The Kentucky senator, and son of libertarian hero and former presidential hopeful Ron Paul, said he was making the speech out of outrage at recent comments made by Obama officials on the possible legality of carrying out drone strikes against US citizens on American soil.
Brennan is a major advocate of Obama's greatly expanded drones programme, which has been used to strike suspected Islamist militants abroad. Defenders say it is an effective way of hitting terrorists, while critics say it causes too many civilian casualties, hurts America's image and has been used illegally to kill several US citizens.
"I will speak as long as it takes, until the alarm is sounded from coast to coast that our constitution is important, that your rights to trial by jury are precious, that no American should be killed by a drone on American soil without first being charged with a crime, without first being found to be guilty by a court," Paul said.
His speech began on the Senate floor at just after 11.45am ET on Wednesday. After about an hour, he admitted his throat was getting dry and said: "I can't talk forever". But after more than two hours he was still going strong, striking the themes of citizens' constitutional rights over government power that have made him a Tea Party favourite and hero of libertarian-leaning followers of his father. "The constitution limits power given to Congress. But it does not limit rights," he said.
The last talking filibuster in the Senate was in 2010 and carried out by independent socialist senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. He spoke against extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and lasted 8 hours and 37 minutes.
Paul's protest came after comments by Eric Holder on the legality of using drones domestically. Paul made public two letters written to him by Holder, in which the attorney general admitted that it was hypothetically possible for such a scenario to emerge.
"It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the president to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States," Holder wrote, though he stressed such a possibility was "unlikely".
Paul's fellow rightwing Republican senator Ted Cruz also grilled Holder at a Senate committee on Wednesday on the terms by which a US citizen could be killed on American soil. Holder defended his letter to Paul saying that he believed such an action would be considered possible only to prevent attacks like Pearl Harbor or 9/11. Cruz said he would be introducing legislation to outlaw the possibility of killing US citizens absent any imminent threat.
The lethal use of drones to kill targets, especially against US citizens abroad such as the militant Islamist cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and his 16-year-old son, has prompted outrage across the American political spectrum. Numerous conservatives, liberals and civil rights groups have complained that the Obama administration's drones programme is too frequently used, cloaked in legal secrecy and not given enough oversight outside the White House.
In the face of such criticism, the Obama administration has been forced into agreeing to provide access to select members of Congress to its legal justification for targeting and killing American citizens abroad. Obama last month ordered the Justice Department to privately lay out its legal arguments to congressional intelligence committees in a move that ended a two-year battle over attempts the sensitive memos secret.
Paul's stunt to block Brennan is unlikely to amount to any practical obstacle to his appointment. The Senate intelligence committee has already voted in favor of his nomination by 12 votes to three.
Imagine if Bush or another neocon Republican had taken office and had done the sort of things Obama has done while in office. Just imagine. Remember the hatred of Bush (much justified) when he was in office, yet Obama has contintued the very same wars (even expanding them) and has drone bombed multiple countries while he's been in office. Yet not a word is said.
And now Obama wants to extend drone bombings/coverage to the United States and not a word is spoken from the left who claimed to be the biggest defenders of civil liberties when Bush introduced the likes of the Patriot Act when in office.
Politics as usual in Washington - with the exception of Senator Paul and a few select others.
Thoughts?
Rand Paul keeps going with filibuster in bid to block Brennan appointment
Kentucky senator makes speech in protest at comments from officials over possibility of carrying out drone strikes on US soil
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2013/3/6/1362599647953/Rand-Paul-filibuster-010.jpg
Rand Paul began his filibuster at 11.45am and was still going more than two hours later. Photograph: Jonathan Ernst/Reuters
Senator Rand Paul on Wednesday began a rare talking filibuster in order to try and block the appointment of new CIA chief John Brennan over his attitude to President Barack Obama's controversial drones policy.
The move, made famous in popular culture by James Stewart in the film Mr Smith Goes to Washington, involves trying to block a piece of legislation by speaking for as long as possible, though rule changes have largely reduced it to a publicity stunt.
The Kentucky senator, and son of libertarian hero and former presidential hopeful Ron Paul, said he was making the speech out of outrage at recent comments made by Obama officials on the possible legality of carrying out drone strikes against US citizens on American soil.
Brennan is a major advocate of Obama's greatly expanded drones programme, which has been used to strike suspected Islamist militants abroad. Defenders say it is an effective way of hitting terrorists, while critics say it causes too many civilian casualties, hurts America's image and has been used illegally to kill several US citizens.
"I will speak as long as it takes, until the alarm is sounded from coast to coast that our constitution is important, that your rights to trial by jury are precious, that no American should be killed by a drone on American soil without first being charged with a crime, without first being found to be guilty by a court," Paul said.
His speech began on the Senate floor at just after 11.45am ET on Wednesday. After about an hour, he admitted his throat was getting dry and said: "I can't talk forever". But after more than two hours he was still going strong, striking the themes of citizens' constitutional rights over government power that have made him a Tea Party favourite and hero of libertarian-leaning followers of his father. "The constitution limits power given to Congress. But it does not limit rights," he said.
The last talking filibuster in the Senate was in 2010 and carried out by independent socialist senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. He spoke against extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and lasted 8 hours and 37 minutes.
Paul's protest came after comments by Eric Holder on the legality of using drones domestically. Paul made public two letters written to him by Holder, in which the attorney general admitted that it was hypothetically possible for such a scenario to emerge.
"It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the president to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States," Holder wrote, though he stressed such a possibility was "unlikely".
Paul's fellow rightwing Republican senator Ted Cruz also grilled Holder at a Senate committee on Wednesday on the terms by which a US citizen could be killed on American soil. Holder defended his letter to Paul saying that he believed such an action would be considered possible only to prevent attacks like Pearl Harbor or 9/11. Cruz said he would be introducing legislation to outlaw the possibility of killing US citizens absent any imminent threat.
The lethal use of drones to kill targets, especially against US citizens abroad such as the militant Islamist cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and his 16-year-old son, has prompted outrage across the American political spectrum. Numerous conservatives, liberals and civil rights groups have complained that the Obama administration's drones programme is too frequently used, cloaked in legal secrecy and not given enough oversight outside the White House.
In the face of such criticism, the Obama administration has been forced into agreeing to provide access to select members of Congress to its legal justification for targeting and killing American citizens abroad. Obama last month ordered the Justice Department to privately lay out its legal arguments to congressional intelligence committees in a move that ended a two-year battle over attempts the sensitive memos secret.
Paul's stunt to block Brennan is unlikely to amount to any practical obstacle to his appointment. The Senate intelligence committee has already voted in favor of his nomination by 12 votes to three.
Imagine if Bush or another neocon Republican had taken office and had done the sort of things Obama has done while in office. Just imagine. Remember the hatred of Bush (much justified) when he was in office, yet Obama has contintued the very same wars (even expanding them) and has drone bombed multiple countries while he's been in office. Yet not a word is said.
And now Obama wants to extend drone bombings/coverage to the United States and not a word is spoken from the left who claimed to be the biggest defenders of civil liberties when Bush introduced the likes of the Patriot Act when in office.
Politics as usual in Washington - with the exception of Senator Paul and a few select others.
Thoughts?