EXPLOSIONS AT FINISH OF BOSTON MARATHON

[lemons]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/16/us/explosions-reported-at-site-of-boston-marathon.html?hp&_r=0

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22160691

IM WATCHING IT ON SKY NEWS RIGHT NOW

[sex]

i just seen this!
i seen this on twitter.. contains blood.. but not bodies
http://i.imgur.com/hAd9FOT.jpg

[lemons]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2309545/Boston-Marathon-explosion-Dozens-reported-injured-device-goes-near-finish-line.html

pics

[xxMATTGxx]

WARNING - CONTAINS GORE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH6ju2NCMAAzhqs.jpg:large

[sex]

Fox news confirming at least 3 dead

[lemons]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/15/article-0-1950428C000005DC-316_634x682.jpg

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Sky news live stream (don't know if it works outside UK)

http://news.sky.com/story/1078597/explosions-at-boston-marathon-many-injured

[Mikey]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH6kXlDCYAARz5f.jpg:large

[Adam]

Matt, do you want to spoiler that image? I can see someone's half leg hanging off the curb.

You can't even run a marathon these days.

[xxMATTGxx]

https://vine.co/v/bFdt5uwg6JZ

[Cerys]

I think someone needs to warn Matt for that(;

But woah... I dunno the story really but it looks pretty bad!!

[Adam]

... and the first thing Alex Jones puts on Twitter:


Our hearts go out to those that are hurt or killed #Boston (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Boston&src=hash) marathon - but this thing stinks to high heaven #falseflag (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23falseflag&src=hash)

[Mr-Trainor]

Watching this on BBC News atm!

[Yawn]

https://vine.co/v/bFdt5uwg6JZ

watch that. look at the runner randomly fall over and break his/her leg ewwwww

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH6kXlDCYAARz5f.jpg:large

LOOK AT THE SILHOUETTE WALKING ON THE ROOFTOP AHHHHH

[Mr-Trainor]

2101:

Boston authorities warn they will cause a controlled explosion in the next few minutes but release no further details.

[lemons]

2101:

Boston authorities warn they will cause a controlled explosion in the next few minutes but release no further details.


They have found another explosive?

[Mr-Trainor]

They have found another explosive?
Idk, I'm a bit confused by that.

[Ardemax]

I'm really puzzled by it all. Anyone know why we're such ****** people?

[Yawn]

the NY post says 12 are dead

http://www.nypost.com/

[FlyingJesus]

Would like to know where NYP are getting that report from considering the BBC are reporting 2 dead and 23 injured, and that's direct from the Boston Police Department

[lemons]

the NY post says 12 are dead

http://www.nypost.com/

NY Times actually says 22 injured 2 dead, though likely to rise

[sex]

Would like to know where NYP are getting that report from considering the BBC are reporting 2 dead and 23 injured, and that's direct from the Boston Police Department

It was 3 dead from boston police earlier according to skynews, it was except to rise so idk

[j0rd]

Watching it on the news now, so sad :(

[Mr-Trainor]

the NY post says 12 are dead

http://www.nypost.com/


It was 3 dead from boston police earlier according to skynews, it was except to rise so idk
Yeah they said 3 at first, but then changed to 2.

BBC News just mentioned the third explosion, saying it was controlled in order to remove a suspicious package.

[Adam]

The world is ******.

[Circadia]

There were 3 explosion the third was a control one by the police.
There's a post on Tumblr saying not to drive through Boston or get the subway as there's an emergency radio cast saying there are possibilities for more bombs, I don't know how true that is but yeah.

Does anyone know if they worked out who cause the explosions?

[Reloaded]

Breaking News Citing a US intelligence official, the Associated Press reports two more explosive devices have been found at the Boston Marathon and are being dismantled.

[lemons]

London marathon on sunday, hope similar events don't occur

[Mr-Trainor]

There were 3 explosion the third was a control one by the police.
There's a post on Tumblr saying not to drive through Boston or get the subway as there's an emergency radio cast saying there are possibilities for more bombs, I don't know how true that is but yeah.

Does anyone know if they worked out who cause the explosions?
It doesn't seem so yet.

Also;BREAKING NEWS
Citing a US intelligence official, the Associated Press reports two more explosive devices have been found at the Boston Marathon and are being dismantled.

[Yawn]

idk just chucking random stuff that comes up when im reading elsewhere

[xxMATTGxx]

London marathon on sunday, hope similar events don't occur

British police say they are reviewing security plans for Sunday's London marathon because of the explosions at marathon in Boston in U.S.

[FlyingJesus]

From the BBC

Breaking News

Citing a US intelligence official, the Associated Press reports two more explosive devices have been found at the Boston Marathon and are being dismantled.


Oh sorry been posted already, but yeah definitely an attack then as suspected. Can't imagine how horrifying it must be to be in the area right now

[lemons]

Does anyone know if they worked out who cause the explosions?

Must have been planned for a long time by a group of people but lets not make assumptions

[sex]

oh its been moved down to 2 dead
also
Police scanner: JFK library on fire, more undetonated explosives found.
that was on reddit

[Narnat,]

Yeah I just saw this on the news :/

[sex]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/first-photos-from-the-scene-of-the-boston-marathon-explosion

this link has lots of photos... number 45 is really disturbing be warned

[xxMATTGxx]

This is on BBC News on the side:


2126:

Roupen Bastajian, a 35-year-old Rhode Island state trooper, had just finished the race and donned a heat blanket when he heard the first blast. "I started running toward the blast. And there were people all over the floor,'' he tells AP.

2126:

Mr Bastajian adds: "We started grabbing tourniquets and started tying legs. A lot of people amputated... At least 25-30 people have at least one leg missing, or an ankle missing, or two legs missing.''

[Yawn]

omg ur right 45 is sick!!!!!!!!!

[Adam]

Shows how real this is.

Our species is ******, we'll all kill ourselves.

[Yawn]

and it was in memory of the newton massacre. some of the victims were even in attendance. sick!!!

[xxMATTGxx]

Reuters: Police have confirmed another explosion at JFK library in Boston in U.S.

Ignore this.

[Adam]

Reuters: Police have confirmed another explosion at JFK library in Boston in U.S.

*controlled.

[David]

oh its been moved down to 2 dead
also
Police scanner: JFK library on fire, more undetonated explosives found.
that was on reddit

reddits hardly a trusted source though :P

[xxMATTGxx]

*controlled.

I blame Sky News :P

[Adam]

I blame Sky News :P
Watch CNN, I'm sure they know more being from USA and all.

[xxMATTGxx]

Watch CNN, I'm sure they know more being from USA and all.

Well Sky News got it from Reuters which is US based I assume? But okay.

[lemons]

Reuters: Police have confirmed another explosion at JFK library in Boston in U.S.

It was a fire caused by machinery or something and wasn't related to the explosions.

[Aaron]

Wow, such a tragic event. 2 dead and 23 injured, that's not right. Everywhere seems to be tightening up on their security now. Currently watching Sky News now, wow the poor poor people.

[Circadia]

Blasts were in the hotel near the finish line
I forgot the name it had plaza in it though

[Adam]

Well Sky News got it from Reuters which is US based I assume? But okay.

I wasn't being uppity I was just suggesting :)

[lemons]

Blasts were in the hotel near the finish line
I forgot the name it had plaza in it though

Copley Plaza

[-:Undertaker:-]

I could say how awful and so on, but thats already been said.

But whats even more important - standby America, because the politicians will now launch another attack on your liberties.

[lemons]

Parts of Boston have become a no-fly zone.

The New York Police Department has stepped up security around landmarks in Manhattan

[Lee]

Seeing some sickening scenes here on Sky News :(

[Kardan]

BBC News feed is saying that they've found two more bombs and are being dismantled now. Wow.

[lemons]

Daily Mail reporting up to 12 people dead

(its the Daily Mail so wouldn't go by anything they say just yet)

[-:Undertaker:-]

Daily Mail reporting up to 12 people dead

(its the Daily Mail so wouldn't go by anything they say just yet)

I wouldn't with state-funded BBC News either.

Grappling in the dark.

[Kardan]

Daily Mail reporting up to 12 people dead

(its the Daily Mail so wouldn't go by anything they say just yet)

It wouldn't surprise me if the death toll rises as the day goes on.

[Yawn]

http://www.keloland.com/custompages/cbslive/

live feed gerls

[Kardan]

That 3rd explosion at the JFK library does NOT sound like a controlled explosion from the statement that this guy is giving...

[Adam]

That 3rd explosion at the JFK library does NOT sound like a controlled explosion from the statement that this guy is giving...

Just what I was thinking.

[Yawn]

@mpoppel 9m
CBS NEWS: Boston PD has surveillance video of someone bringing multiple backpacks to blast site

[Circadia]

Apparently there is a bomb threat near west 16 street in NYC. This is from Twitter and Tumblr so it's more than likely not true but I thought I'd share

[Yawn]

Boston PD: Explosions at 2:50 p.m. were 50 to 100 yards apart; multiple casualties at both

yeah death toll is going up

[lemons]

Was the JFK incident a fire or explosion? Multiple sites saying multiple things.

[xxMATTGxx]

There has been a controlled explosion but it wasn't at the Library.

[Yawn]

BREAKING -- Boston PD now says JFK Library explosion is related to Boston blasts

[Circadia]

Was the JFK incident a fire or explosion? Multiple sites saying multiple things.

The man doing an interview on BBC News is saying it was an explosion outside the JFK Library and they are almost certain the two incidents are linked

[Maatt.]

http://i.imgur.com/hAd9FOT.jpg

This image contains blood, but no bodies.
such a shame :(

[Mr-Trainor]

BBC News just said that someone confirmed a third explosion at JFK Library?

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BREAKING -- Boston PD now says JFK Library explosion is related to Boston blasts
Didn't see your post when I just posted (A).

[Adam]

3rd explosion at JFK library
4th controlled explosion on one street.

[xxMATTGxx]

If you want to watch the full thing: http://www.boston.com/video/viral_page/?/services/player/bcpid1367773107001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAA6piHY~,DqRT40XOAr9OWST-YiEQyzUCo3g3L-Af&bctid=2303076923001

[lemons]

This is so sad.

[Yawn]

no1 has been hurt at the library w/e has happened

going now. stay safe ppl of habbox ^_____^

[xxMATTGxx]

JFK Library ‏@JFKLibrary 43m

Fire in building is out, appears to have started in the mechanical room of new building. All staff and visitors are accounted for and safe.

JFK Library ‏@JFKLibrary 43m

Investigators are investigating. Any tie to Boston Marathon explosions is pure speculation. More information as we receive it.

https://twitter.com/JFKLibrary/

[Adam]

https://twitter.com/JFKLibrary/

So why didn't the governor just decline to comment instead of saying there was an explosion. Ah dear. At least they're safe.

[dbgtz]

Hey remember all the Pakistanis being shot down by drones and other people (primarily) the US are slaughtering in the Middle East? Perhaps the US government and the people should look at why these attacks are happening. And while it may be tragic as no man should be killed, and I would not wish it on anybody, but the hypocrisy is absolutely outstanding.

[peteyt]

Someone thinks this is north korea at work but I doubt it. My condolences to the families of those killed or injured.

[Adam]

Muslims and Iraq are trending on Twitter, brilliant.

[xxMATTGxx]

Came across this on twitter:

http://i.imgur.com/O6bDJHM.jpg

[David]

Came across this on twitter:

http://i.imgur.com/O6bDJHM.jpg

someone mentioned that a few pages back
probably just security

[Adam]

Came across this on twitter:

http://i.imgur.com/O6bDJHM.jpg

I said on another forum that this photo alone will be enough to make conspiracy theorists fill up with joy.

[Kardan]

Muslims and Iraq are trending on Twitter, brilliant.

To be fair, the majority of tweets with #muslims are people saying don't blame muslims...

[sexpot]

oh wow, just saw this on the news

[Ardemax]

To be fair, the majority of tweets with #muslims are people saying don't blame muslims...

"DON'T BLAME #MUSLIMS FOR THIS YOU ARE SO IGNORANT"

*1 tweet later*

"OMG WHY IS #MUSLIMS TRENDING YOU RACIST *******S"

[Reloaded]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/authorities_under_suspect_guard_y2m8cJO29uC2PDGIjY BalO

[Adam]

"DON'T BLAME #MUSLIMS FOR THIS YOU ARE SO IGNORANT"

*1 tweet later*

"OMG WHY IS #MUSLIMS TRENDING YOU RACIST *******S"
Yeah I was going to say this exact thing. The fact that people feel the need to tweet "don't blame muslims" is wrong.

[David]

New York Post @nypost
Breaking: Authorities ID a Saudi national as a suspect in Boston Marathon bombings nyp.st/XNBHHr

oh someone just posted the link ok

[peteyt]

Muslims and Iraq are trending on Twitter, brilliant.

Sadly its to be expected

[Adam]

That footage CNN just showed is frightening.

[Kardan]

That footage CNN just showed is frightening.

What was it? I'm sticking with BBC at the moment.

[Adam]

What was it? I'm sticking with BBC at the moment.

Video from the finishing line, hand camera.

[David]

What was it? I'm sticking with BBC at the moment.


Video from the finishing line, hand camera.

http://www.boston.com/video/viral_page/?/services/player/bcpid1367773107001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAA6piHY~,DqRT40XOAr9OWST-YiEQyzUCo3g3L-Af&bctid=2303076923001

[Circadia]

Hey remember all the Pakistanis being shot down by drones and other people (primarily) the US are slaughtering in the Middle East? Perhaps the US government and the people should look at why these attacks are happening. And while it may be tragic as no man should be killed, and I would not wish it on anybody, but the hypocrisy is absolutely outstanding.

Although America are the cause of a lot of death in the Middle East there is no reason to compare the situations as America is obviously going to get a lot more media coverage of the situation because of its high standing in everyday society. Yes the fact that we are so bothered about the deaths that have happened in America and no so much the ones in the Middle East is hypocritical but peoples lives are still at risk and the hypocrisy of the situation should be ignored as the people that have been affected basically have no choice about what the Government do to countries such as Pakistan etc.

[Niall!]

What was it? I'm sticking with BBC at the moment.

It's this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=046MuD1pYJg

[sexpot]

Boston police apparently have a possible suspect in custody

[dbgtz]

Although America are the cause of a lot of death in the Middle East there is no reason to compare the situations as America is obviously going to get a lot more media coverage of the situation because of its high standing in everyday society. Yes the fact that we are so bothered about the deaths that have happened in America is hypocritical but peoples lives are still at risk and the hypocrisy of the situation should be ignored as the people that have been affected basically have no choice about what the Government do in countries such as Pakistan etc.

It's not obvious as the value of the life of a citizen of the USA is no greater & no less than anybody else. Just because they have a more dominant role on the world stage doesn't mean they have - or should be - the centre of attention. The real problem is the mainstream media doesn't want to report the bombings in the Middle East otherwise it will severely damage public confidence whereas an event like this, as -:Undertaker:-; suggested will just be used to rob the liberties of people for the sake of "security".

So yes peoples lives are at risk when they shouldn't be and to be quite frank it isn't fair, but the hypocrisy shouldn't be ignored.

[Adam]

Boston police apparently have a possible suspect in custody
Just said it's speculation.

[Matthew]

This is absolutely awful. Feel so sorry for those affected :(

There's some absolutely horrific images floating around the internet- if only you could unsee things :'(

[Adam]

This is absolutely awful. Feel so sorry for those affected :(

There's some absolutely horrific images floating around the internet- if only you could unsee things :'(

The Internet has numbed me to this but this is real, this is awful, horrible, tragic.

[wixard]

for some bizarre reason and i don't know how or why but it was that one episode of homeland about the US propaganda of the 'fake drone footage ' that made me realise just how much the tragedies in the middle east and elsewhere are overlooked. regardless of that this is absolutely terrible, innocent people have died today and many more inflicted with injuries that will have massively impacted their future and happiness

my thoughts are with them and all those affected

[Kardan]

for some bizarre reason and i don't know how or why but it was that one episode of homeland about the US propaganda of the 'fake drone footage ' that made me realise just how much the tragedies in the middle east and elsewhere are overlooked. regardless of that this is absolutely terrible, innocent people have died today and many more inflicted with injuries that will have massively impacted their future and happiness

my thoughts are with them and all those affected

To put it into perspective, 31 people dead and 200+ injured in Iraq this morning from explosions in cities across the country, barely any coverage on the news:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22149863

[dbgtz]

for some bizarre reason and i don't know how or why but it was that one episode of homeland about the US propaganda of the 'fake drone footage ' that made me realise just how much the tragedies in the middle east and elsewhere are overlooked. regardless of that this is absolutely terrible, innocent people have died today and many more inflicted with injuries that will have massively impacted their future and happiness

my thoughts are with them and all those affected

I like you now wixard.


To put it into perspective, 31 people dead and 200+ injured in Iraq this morning from explosions in cities across the country, barely any coverage on the news:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22149863

Got to love the prioties of the west.

[scottish]

To put it into perspective, 31 people dead and 200+ injured in Iraq this morning from explosions in cities across the country, barely any coverage on the news:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22149863

well obviously it's going to receive a lot less coverage on the news unless the BBC are going to start phoning people from iraq for eyewitness statements, sitting in random streets with cameras waiting on something to happen etc.

[Kardan]

well obviously it's going to receive a lot less coverage on the news unless the BBC are going to start phoning people from iraq for eyewitness statements, sitting in random streets with cameras waiting on something to happen etc.

I know it's going to receive less coverage, but it just shows you the difference in how the media reacts depending on where these things happen.

[wixard]

To put it into perspective, 31 people dead and 200+ injured in Iraq this morning from explosions in cities across the country, barely any coverage on the news:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22149863

i realise how unfair it is, that deaths like this happen in the middle east everyday and they go unrecognised by the rest of the world. i also understand that with attacks such as the one today, people are thinking 'that could have been me'. it's a selfish thought, but i think one which most will have. they feel more empathy with the people living in a society similar to their own

im on my phone in work so typing this is a ******* chore, ive not actually read much info about the bombings apart from a few tweets

[Luke367]

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/59221_519508921430444_811084571_n.jpg
This picture been posted on most news papers... But i also saw this aswell... Look on the roof! Is that the person?

[Circadia]

As it stands its 3 dead and 100+ injured

[Chippiewill]

Came across this on twitter:

http://i.imgur.com/O6bDJHM.jpg

Some people are saying it's bigfoot.

[Yawn]

i said about the person on the roof on page2 but no1 cared!! *subos claim to fame*

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and US tragedies always overlook everything else. and in the US they overlook tragedies that happen elsewhere for their own current issues

[Adam]

To put it into perspective, 31 people dead and 200+ injured in Iraq this morning from explosions in cities across the country, barely any coverage on the news:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22149863
Iraq is a warzone, Boston isn't.

[scottish]

http://www.channel4.com/news/boston-attack-three-dead-fbi-hunt-terror-suspects

8 Year old victim was named


Apparently 140 were injured, 17 critically injured, 3 killed

[FiftyCal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmXRMojzuIk
Hmmmmmm

http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopular/story/UM-Coach-Bomb-Sniffing-Dogs-Spotters-on-Roofs/BrirjAzFPUKKN8z6eSDJEA.cspx

[HarrySX]

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/59221_519508921430444_811084571_n.jpg
This picture been posted on most news papers... But i also saw this aswell... Look on the roof! Is that the person?

probably surveillance

[Kardan]

Iraq is a warzone, Boston isn't.

Technically the Iraq war ended in 2011. But I do understand why the media do it, there's no need to tell me about it, I was simply highlighting it out for people as they were talking about western media :)

[Adam]

Technically the Iraq war ended in 2011. But I do understand why the media do it, there's no need to tell me about it, I was simply highlighting it out for people as they were talking about western media :)

It wasn't particularly aimed at you, but at the insinuation that people die in the East and don't get recognized. Also, we're white.

[Yawn]

OMG

i keep seeing the picture but he was gonna PROPOSE to her :'( idk how true this is though???...

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/528299_507381672654077_405455971_n.png

[Kardan]

OMG

i keep seeing the picture but he was gonna PROPOSE to her :'( idk how true this is though???...

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/528299_507381672654077_405455971_n.png

Considering we only know of 3 dead, and 2 of them are rumoured to be children, plus it says she died whilst she was running the marathon, I doubt it. From what it seems, most of the dead will be those in the crowd, I'm pretty sure you can see all the runners in the video, and none of them seem to get gravely injured. So I'd say it's not true.

[Yawn]

Considering we only know of 3 dead, and 2 of them are rumoured to be children, plus it says she died whilst she was running the marathon, I doubt it. From what it seems, most of the dead will be those in the crowd, I'm pretty sure you can see all the runners in the video, and none of them seem to get gravely injured. So I'd say it's not true.
yh i think its from 1 of those RT TO SHOW RESPECT things that ppl do smh

[HarrySX]

OMG

i keep seeing the picture but he was gonna PROPOSE to her :'( idk how true this is though???...

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/528299_507381672654077_405455971_n.png

I hate seeing these, it's disrespectful when the information isn't cited so has no creditability

[karter]

OMG

i keep seeing the picture but he was gonna PROPOSE to her :'( idk how true this is though???...

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/528299_507381672654077_405455971_n.png

She did not die, at least that's what people are saying on Facebook. Seriously, people on tumblr do anything to get notes

[Adam]

Just watched ITV news and the reporter said that the Saudi guy's house was searched (showing images of the FBI taking bags of crap out) so there has to be some sort of credibility behind that.

[Cerys]

The search on the home in Revere, north of Boston, was connected to a young
Saudi citizen who is visiting on a student visa and has been questioned, a law
enforcement official said. So far, the official told CNN, he has not heard of
anything being found connecting the person to the bombings.

May not be the Saudi dude. I really do hope they find the person/people who did it and give them what they deserve.. It's just awful

[CaptainAce]

It's all you ever hear in the news these days, wars, bombing, ressession. Rest in peace to those who died and hopefully whoever it was can be brought to justice. Sooner rather then later.

[Shockwave.2CC]

Pretty bad tbh

http://www.boston.com/video/viral_page/?%2Fservices%2Fplayer%2Fbcpid1367773107001&bckey=AQ~~%2CAAAAAA6piHY~%2CDqRT40XOAr9OWST-YiEQyzUCo3g3L-Af&bctid=2303076923001

[karter]

Iraq is a warzone, Boston isn't.

Terrorist attacks here in India are not so frequent but hardly get any international media attention, the only exception is 2008 Bombay Attacks which only drew attention because the main targets were white tourists.



Also, we're white.

This is the one and the only reason.

[Adam]

Terrorist attacks here in India are not so frequent but hardly get any international media attention, the only exception is 2008 Bombay Attacks which only drew attention because the main targets were white tourists. This is the one and the only reason.


Just to cover my back more than anything but that wasn't meant as discrimination it's pretty much Western society. Sucks, but that's 'MURICA for you. I disagree with India not being covered though (still part of the Commonwealth) same with Pakistan and that bus shooting last year. I can't say it's the same for Iran/Syria/Ir

[Yawn]

i think its more just cos its america and they r pretty self absorbed

[geo]

Absolutely terrible. I've seen so much about it on the news, over Twitter and on the radio. The pictures are really horrific and the situation is saddening. RIP to all those who have died and my thoughts go out to the people of Boston. :( So, so tragic.

[Demi]

Terrible, shame it happens in loads of places and we have no idea because they don't publish it.
Thank God for the fact that no more lives were taken, they uncovered a few more bombs which luckily didn't go off!

[Kardan]

Terrible, shame it happens in loads of places and we have no idea because they don't publish it.
Thank God for the fact that no more lives were taken, they uncovered a few more bombs which luckily didn't go off!

There were only 2 bombs, no more.

"There had been reports that other suspected devices were found in the area, but speaking in Boston on Tuesday, the governor of Massachusetts, Deval Patrick, said it was "important to clarify that two, and only two, explosive devices were found yesterday"."

[Demi]

There were only 2 bombs, no more.

"There had been reports that other suspected devices were found in the area, but speaking in Boston on Tuesday, the governor of Massachusetts, Deval Patrick, said it was "important to clarify that two, and only two, explosive devices were found yesterday"."

Ah damn I hadn't heard that yet. Thanks for the info :)!

[Shockwave.2CC]

Here a bit of the bomb that caused it

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/65608_10151682167212573_681952061_n.jpg

[CaptainAce]

Last time I saw this story on the news they were speculating whether it's home made or made by a bomb expert. I find it all interesting despite it being tragic because is it really that easy to get bombs planted? You'd think people might be a tiny bit more on the look out during an event such as this.

[Daltron]

RIP :(

[xxMATTGxx]

Fox News: The Boston marathon bombing suspect has been arrested and is due to appear in court

[Inseriousity.]

Last time I saw this story on the news they were speculating whether it's home made or made by a bomb expert. I find it all interesting despite it being tragic because is it really that easy to get bombs planted? You'd think people might be a tiny bit more on the look out during an event such as this.

People look for a rational explanation before an irrational one. Someone putting a bomb in a bin is just someone depositing rubbish and not really worthy of a second glance (if there were even people around).

[CaptainAce]

People look for a rational explanation before an irrational one. Someone putting a bomb in a bin is just someone depositing rubbish and not really worthy of a second glance (if there were even people around).

Suppose so but even then, wouldn't they been looking around a fair bit. Acting shifty?

[Inseriousity.]

You're more likely to succeed at committing a crime if you blend in (unless ofc a google satellite manages to capture it) and act normal - imagine walking into a shop and trying to shoplift something, acting shifty is just going to attract someone's attention - so I imagine it'd be really easy to walk up to a bin and pretend you're throwing rubbish away.

[CaptainAce]

Sometimes people act shifty when attempting to commit a crime by accident. Do they know if it was in a bin or if it was planted in another way yet?

[David]

Fox News: The Boston marathon bombing suspect has been arrested and is due to appear in court

have they released any details on him/her anywhere
just read there was cctv footage

[Adam]

have they released any details on him/her anywhere
just read there was cctv footage

http://i.imgur.com/E4AmAk1.jpg

[xxMATTGxx]

have they released any details on him/her anywhere
just read there was cctv footage

Not sure but now according to the media:

Boston police: Despite reports to the contrary, there has not been an arrest in the marathon attack -

[Mikey]

Sky News says the same

Boston police department: no arrests have been made in connection with the marathon bombings

[mrwoooooooo]

They're possibly currently interviewing a suspect & they've evacuated the federal courthouse due to a bomb threat.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=2n

[GommeInc]

Bit late to this but such tragic news. There are so many graphic photos of the event released shortly after it happened (thanks reddit). One that will stick in my mind for a very long time is the image of a man being wheeled off with a severed leg clearly showing bone and a missing foot. The definition of NSFL became obvious aftert hat. This is all very haunting, and obviously big news for the simple fact this is an event which will be recorded officially and by the public, so very little will go hidden especially in a country which has a large population which will use recording devices wherever they are.

What I find a bit interesting is that quite a few Americans believe this is such big news here because it's an "international" marathon and that the world was watching - even though countries other than the US only knew of the Boston Marathon that day because of this tragic event. The only interesting info about the Boston Marathon is that it's possibly one of the oldest modern day marathons, but by no means the largest or the most popular as far as the intentional community goes. The flags of different countries are simply for decoration, much like their World Series Baseball which is only an American event.

[Kardan]

Apparently the FBI have a potential suspect, someone dropping off a bag near the second explosion, walking away and making a phone call as the first explosion goes off. Who knows if they're right though.

[mrwoooooooo]

Apparently the FBI have a potential suspect, someone dropping off a bag near the second explosion, walking away and making a phone call as the first explosion goes off. Who knows if they're right though.
FBI are releasing photos of suspects later on today

[xxMATTGxx]

FBI have released images/videos of suspects they think may have some sort of connection to the bombings.


Video:


http://youtu.be/M80DXI932OE

[Adam]

It's sad that the suspects are of Eastern background, by the looks of them anyway, because it just means more racial profiling which the world doesn't need right now.

[-:Undertaker:-]

It's sad that the suspects are of Eastern background, by the looks of them anyway, because it just means more racial profiling which the world doesn't need right now.

Michael Savage said exactly this, that I bet Obama and the White House were praying the suspect was a right-wing Tea Party member so they could then discredit the right of politics... just as what happened with the nutcase Anders Breivik (who i'm not even sure was right wing but was certainly made out to be) - sadly for the Obama administration, it looks to be another immigrant/illegal alien thanks to the out of control immigration and borders policy of the United States.

On a side note, personally I don't think anybody should be stopped in the street or profiled regardless of colour - if you haven't committed a crime and there's no reasonable grounds of suspicion to stop you then I don't think government goons have any right to stop you and ask you questions.

[scottish]

Michael Savage said exactly this, that I bet Obama and the White House were praying the suspect was a right-wing Tea Party member so they could then discredit the right of politics... just as what happened with the nutcase Anders Breivik (who i'm not even sure was right wing but was certainly made out to be) - sadly for the Obama administration, it looks to be another immigrant/illegal alien thanks to the out of control immigration and borders policy of the United States.

On a side note, personally I don't think anybody should be stopped in the street or profiled regardless of colour - if you haven't committed a crime and there's no reasonable grounds of suspicion to stop you then I don't think government goons have any right to stop you and ask you questions.

They were legally (permanently) living in the country and from Turkey by the looks of it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22213651

Currently a manhunt in some Waterdown area which is on lockdown for the last suspect

The first suspect has been killed after a shootout with cops, one police officer has died and one is left wounded

[David]

Apparently brothers, and the one still alive and running is only 19

edit;

Tamerlane Tsarnaev, 26, Born in Russia; Dzokhar Tsarnaev, 19, Born in Kyrgyztan

[Logandyer45]

At 8:45pm EDT, the second suspect is in custody. He is alive, and the police left the neighborhood to applause. It ended when the suspect went into a boat & flash bangs were thrown. This manhunt is over and now the trial starts. Keep the discussion going here! :)

Threads merged by j0rd (Forum Moderator)

[scottish]

a) this is the wrong section
b) there's already 2 threads regarding the boston bombings and everything that happened after that (including the fact he's in custody)

Edited by Bolt660 (Forum Moderator): Please leave the moderating to the moderators!

[Logandyer45]

Dzokhar is caught.

[Shockwave.2CC]

Life sentence please

Because america life sentence means LIFE sentence

Like 130 years is Americas life sentence or it might be 99 years. Either way give him life

[Red]

Just spent ages reading through his twitter. Strange! I will be interested to see what his motives etc were.

[karter]

i can't seem to find his twitter?? someone give me the link

[scottish]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=775533 it's in that threads somewhere

[Kieran]

You know he'll be shipped off to Gauntanamo and tortured now :P He'd have been better killing himself than allowing himself to be caught.

[scottish]

he may have tried, he was taken to hospital wounded so either shot himself or one of police got him

[Red]

You know he'll be shipped off to Gauntanamo and tortured now :P He'd have been better killing himself than allowing himself to be caught.

I read today he is going to be tried in civilian court.
and karter; its www.twitter.com/j_tsar

[Absently]

Dzokhar is caught.
does anyone know where/how they found him?

[scottish]

does anyone know where/how they found him?

CCTV surveillance from near the Marathon lead them to finding the two suspects and putting their pictures out
They robbed a store at MIT, killing a police officer
Police then pursued them while getting IEDs thrown at them
There was a shoot out, killing one suspect and injuring an officer
SWAT and the Police then locked down the town, canceling public transport etc
They then done sweeps of houses checking for the suspect

In the end there obviously couldn't have been much left and they found him on a boat, shootout again and captured him

[buttons]

Just spent ages reading through his twitter. Strange! I will be interested to see what his motives etc were.
yeah i looked through his twitter too like he was tweeting after the bombings. seems a lot of people he was tweeting have deleted their accounts except this guy who is trying to prove it is a 'set up'. Sounds like an absolute douche: www.twitter.com/TroyCrossley. also both the brothers were saying 9/11 was an inside job, well they haven't exactly made it better by adding to the stereotype that Muslims are terrorists have they..
@Absently (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=50287); he was hiding in someone's boat in their backyard and he was injured, not much info on whether he saw the man whose boat it was or what but he just called the police and they got him after a few hours but they were firing at each other until he surrendered

[scottish]

yeah i looked through his twitter too like he was tweeting after the bombings. seems a lot of people he was tweeting have deleted their accounts except this guy who is trying to prove it is a 'set up'. Sounds like an absolute douche: www.twitter.com/TroyCrossley. also both the brothers were saying 9/11 was an inside job, well they haven't exactly made it better by adding to the stereotype that Muslims are terrorists have they..
@Absently (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=50287); he was hiding in someone's boat in their backyard and he was injured, not much info on whether he saw the man whose boat it was or what but he just called the police and they got him after a few hours but they were firing at each other until he surrendered

looks like that guys just trying to get as much twitter followers as he can by being their friends lol

[Cerys]

Has it been proved yet that they definitely are the ones who planted the bombs? Or are they still just suspects?

[scottish]

Has it been proved yet that they definitely are the ones who planted the bombs? Or are they still just suspects?

they threw IEDs at the police, had a shoot out with them (including killing one wounding another) and the first had blast scars

i'd say they got them :P

[FiftyCal]

Found something on 4chan
http://images.4chan.org/pol/src/1366457507227.jpg

[Kieran]

Found something on 4chan
http://images.4chan.org/pol/src/1366457507227.jpg

And so the conspiracy theories start...

[xxMATTGxx]

Why would they wear the uniform if it was going to be them who planted the bombs. That wouldn't make sense.

[FiftyCal]

Why would they wear the uniform if it was going to be them who planted the bombs. That wouldn't make sense. idk, people can be stupid sometimes

[xxMATTGxx]

idk, people can be stupid sometimes

So people who are part of a private military contract group are going to be SO stupid to wear the uniforms and plant bombs and then all meet up at the end where everyone can see them? I don' think so.

Plus, are these made by the same people who thought Sunil Tripathi was connected to the bombings but in fact has been missing for over 4 months.

[buttons]

well the guy that was killed rang his uncle asking for forgiveness few hours before he was killed apparently
and the fact they walk off from each other in opposite directions calm as **** after the bombs go off is kinda weird?

[Cerys]

they threw IEDs at the police, had a shoot out with them (including killing one wounding another) and the first had blast scars

i'd say they got them :P

Oh wow okay - lets hope they get a life sentence! I really dunno what can motivate people to do stuff like that. Crazy stuff

[FiftyCal]

Well it won't matter if someone else is to blame and have fingers pointing in different directions

[xxMATTGxx]

Well it won't matter if someone else is to blame

Have a read of this:

http://ftp.dailypaul.com/282579/identity-of-the-men-in-black-and-khaki-uniforms-at-the-boston-marathon-bombings

[Adam]

Conspiracy theorists gonna' conspire.

[Rachel]

They have caught one of the terrorist which is a good thing. You got to be an idiot and inhuman to do this! Rip to those who loss their lives from this tragic event and my sympathy to the families and my prayers to those who were hurt badly x

[Stephen]

Anyone else think it's sad as **** that americans went to the street singing the american anthem and chanting "USA" when they all hid under their tables when news of the bomb reached them

[Yawn]

suspect 2 has a cute lil body in the piccy of him being pinned to ground

[hairpins]

http://youtu.be/axQtAFtmtVA

this iz intrestin r.i.p x

[AgnesIO]

http://youtu.be/axQtAFtmtVA

this iz intrestin r.i.p x

Laughable conspiracy theory as normal.

Add that to these ones;


Bin Laden is a CIA agent
US government blew up the twin towers
7/7 bombings were carried about by the UK Govt
Moon landing was fake
JFK Assassination
Elvis really ain't dead
Paul McCartney is really dead
Royal Family killed Princess Diana
Pearl Harbour? Yeah the American's did that one.


Need I go on?

[GommeInc]

Anyone else think it's sad as **** that americans went to the street singing the american anthem and chanting "USA" when they all hid under their tables when news of the bomb reached them
It is a bit odd - it's dodgy patriotism. They're chanting USA, yet these men were/are US Citizens and learnt these views due to the freedoms the US promote. Then you get the really odd Tweet or announcement by Boston Police saying "CAPTURED!!! The hunt is over. The search is done. The terror is over. And justice has won. Suspect in custody." Is the terror over? You clearly say suspect so justice has not be won and the terror is far from over.

I wouldn't say it's sad, I imagine it is a relief that the curfew is over. Besides, Americans do like to celebrate and show off their happiness openly without sensing a hint of irony :P

I'm more concerned that quite a lot of Americans cannot tell the difference between the Czech Republic and Chechnya. Even if they could, these two people are technically American AND last I checked Chechnya wasn't an evil terrorist strong hold.

[AgnesIO]

It is a bit odd - it's dodgy patriotism. They're chanting USA, yet these men were/are US Citizens and learnt these views due to the freedoms the US promote. Then you get the really odd Tweet or announcement by Boston Police saying "CAPTURED!!! The hunt is over. The search is done. The terror is over. And justice has won. Suspect in custody." Is the terror over? You clearly say suspect so justice has not be won and the terror is far from over.

I wouldn't say it's sad, I imagine it is a relief that the curfew is over. Besides, Americans do like to celebrate and show off their happiness openly without sensing a hint of irony :P

I'm more concerned that quite a lot of Americans cannot tell the difference between the Czech Republic and Chechnya. Even if they could, these two people are technically American AND last I checked Chechnya wasn't an evil terrorist strong hold.


Yeah, too right on American's liking to celebrate - and the weird patriotism too.

Particularly odd, as the USA is basically a load of different cultures thrown into one - so these two people really are no more or less American than a very large minority of others in the country. I used the term large minority as they were not born there, which the majority of the current generation were..

[GommeInc]

Yeah, too right on American's liking to celebrate - and the weird patriotism too.

Particularly odd, as the USA is basically a load of different cultures thrown into one - so these two people really are no more or less American than a very large minority of others in the country. I used the term large minority as they were not born there, which the majority of the current generation were..
Indeed, and they can't argue it's an immigrant problem. The US is a fine example of a country built on immigration :P The psychology behind the bombings could point towards a break down in this idea that America is a utopia, that something in the US must of angered and altered these individuals to hate something of the culture, but this is an entirely different conversation.

[AgnesIO]

Indeed, and they can't argue it's an immigrant problem. The US is a fine example of a country built on immigration :P The psychology behind the bombings could point towards a break down in this idea that America is a utopia, that something in the US must of angered and altered these individuals to hate something of the culture, but this is an entirely different conversation.

Funny really, isn't it? A country built off immigration (very well described, by the way), likes to attach the blame to other cultures etc as frequently as possible.

On the second point, that already sounds like an excellent debate! America has been considered a utopia for a long time - do examples like these show cracks in this idea?

[GommeInc]

Funny really, isn't it? A country built off immigration (very well described, by the way), likes to attach the blame to other cultures etc as frequently as possible.

On the second point, that already sounds like an excellent debate! America has been considered a utopia for a long time - do examples like these show cracks in this idea?
It happened a lot when Obama was sworn into office or running for president. The whole State divide in itself is a localised problem in the same way as our North and South divide. When Bush was in Office, he was thinking like a Texan rather than an American because the diversity in that country is just too much for one man and party. I'm not saying that having just Republicans and Democrats is a bad idea, but there are so many views that too often these two parties have internal conflicts which must leak out when in office :P

I'm wondering where the idea that it was a utopia came from. When you look back at American history it is riddled with conflict in all eras and in some ways the country is still divided. As I mentioned, the State divide is one problem as the concept of a utopia is a bit self-defeating. If people have an idea of their own freedoms then these freedoms may counter the freedoms of others. Religion is one problem, and expression. Both good freedoms or "rights", but they often contradict each other to the point you get conflict - Westboro Church, these individuals etc etc. It's a superfluous utopia, to sum it up briefly.

[buttons]

is anyone still following this? if you are you'll see the media and police have changed their story concerning the capture and shoot out and carjacking so much times. anyway i follow this girl on tumblr (and did so before this happened) and she reblogs 'evidence' and conspiracy theories proving the brothers are innocent and blah. I've looked through tags on tumblr, been on http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/dzhokhar which links to videos and peoples theories and idk what to believe but main thing ive taken from it is, it's funny how suddenly people begin to realise the media brainwashes us... and that these people have only started to realise this because the two suspects were young and attractive so we don't want to believe they did it lol i can't help but think the same myself, human nature sucks balls.

i wonder just how much conspiracy theories are true?! never believed any that like government are all evil cause i don't believe that all but the media for sure skews things.

[Yawn]

same thing happened with the sandy hook massacre and conspiracies. all of the stories in the media regarding the events and evidence completely contradicted. it is v interesting.

[wixard]

is anyone still following this? if you are you'll see the media and police have changed their story concerning the capture and shoot out and carjacking so much times. anyway i follow this girl on tumblr (and did so before this happened) and she reblogs 'evidence' and conspiracy theories proving the brothers are innocent and blah. I've looked through tags on tumblr, been on http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/dzhokhar which links to videos and peoples theories and idk what to believe but main thing ive taken from it is, it's funny how suddenly people begin to realise the media brainwashes us... and that these people have only started to realise this because the two suspects were young and attractive so we don't want to believe they did it lol i can't help but think the same myself, human nature sucks balls.

i wonder just how much conspiracy theories are true?! never believed any that like government are all evil cause i don't believe that all but the media for sure skews things.

i've been following this quite closely and this conspiracy is complete bull, the two brothers did it.

yeah media get things wrong and they'll exaggerate as much as they can get away with, but from everything i've seen it's clear as day it was the two brothers who carried out the whole thing.

i follow the younger brothers best friend on twitter, who's claiming he's innocent.

https://twitter.com/TroyCrossley

the 'evidence' is just recycled garbage they keep using that has been ruled out many times, or photos where they're misidentifying the person. for example that photo of the younger brother in the white hat walking away from the explosion, the best friend is posting that pic and circling another man in the crowd saying it's the older brother with the backpack still on. HOWEVER in the higher resolution version of that photo it's clearly not the older brother at all


AND CAN I JUST ADD, the whole thing about the people in the blast being amputees and actors? get a ******* grip
can't get my head around people actually believing that crap

[buttons]

I believe they did do it i don't believe the government are corrupt/evil/plan these things or that supernatural forces at hand or that there's someone even higher than government controlling this, I just don't understand why the media constantly posts contradicting things because it makes them seem guilty and the whole thing dodgy.. Thank god the public are finally catching on tho. imagine how much convicted people may not actually have done whatever they're convicted of but are made to seem like it. that's kinda scary but people will find it hard to admit maybe they're innocent cause we don't want to defend someone who may be a murderer and whatever else... this is why I don't get into conspiracy theories cause if you're right, nothing will be done about it anyway and everyone jus takes media/gov word for it.
power of the Internet tho, maybe something will come to light but like everything else, it'l prob be forgotten about
excuse my lazy posting its past my bedtime
al,so I was going to mention about the actors too, there would have been hundreds of them needed for this, hundreds of people who have family and friends and people who know them, there's no way they could get away with faking thst

i believe they did it, it's the whole carjacking and shoot out and capturing that'd all messed up, one minute he's apparently surrendered himself in the boat next minute they apparently dragged him out. One minute he had a gun and shot himself, next no gun :S that's what's confusing me . & a witness said it was a policeman who ran over the eldest whereas police are saying it was the youngest brother which ofc they prob would, spose it doesn't take away from the fact a police officer was killed by one of them during the shoot out

[scottish]

I believe they did do it i don't believe the government are corrupt/evil/plan these things or that supernatural forces at hand or that there's someone even higher than government controlling this, I just don't understand why the media constantly posts contradicting things because it makes them seem guilty and the whole thing dodgy.. Thank god the public are finally catching on tho. imagine how much convicted people may not actually have done whatever they're convicted of but are made to seem like it. that's kinda scary but people will find it hard to admit maybe they're innocent cause we don't want to defend someone who may be a murderer and whatever else... this is why I don't get into conspiracy theories cause if you're right, nothing will be done about it anyway and everyone jus takes media/gov word for it.
power of the Internet tho, maybe something will come to light but like everything else, it'l prob be forgotten about
excuse my lazy posting its past my bedtime
al,so I was going to mention about the actors too, there would have been hundreds of them needed for this, hundreds of people who have family and friends and people who know them, there's no way they could get away with faking thst

i believe they did it, it's the whole carjacking and shoot out and capturing that'd all messed up, one minute he's apparently surrendered himself in the boat next minute they apparently dragged him out. One minute he had a gun and shot himself, next no gun :S that's what's confusing me . & a witness said it was a policeman who ran over the eldest whereas police are saying it was the youngest brother which ofc they prob would, spose it doesn't take away from the fact a police officer was killed by one of them during the shoot out

media is always going to exaggerate, it'll help them get more views and that's what they're after

I'm sure a lot of people in prison are actually innocent and have been set up.

on a story like this it's a matter of speed.. the faster you can publish an article the more people are going to come to your site to see the latest breaking news, so they're going to publish stuff instantly without looking at the evidence to back up the story and will result in some inconsistencies by the media.

they're terrorist scum who shot and killed one officer and wounded another, so the police probably did run over the older one to kill him (or maybe it was the easiest way to immobilize him if he had IEDs and a gun) and shot to wound the younger one (if he did have a gun and shot himself, he'd shoot himself in the head not in the neck..), so the police probably did then covered it up as they're hardly going to admit to it but fair play to them.

[Kardan]

I think they did it, if they didn't, why would they have explosives in their hijacked car and throw them at police, and have a gun fight with them? The only dodgy thing is him being captured. It wouldn't suprise me if he was unarmed, and the police ended up shooting him, but just aren't admitting it...

[buttons]

I think they did it, if they didn't, why would they have explosives in their hijacked car and throw them at police, and have a gun fight with them? The only dodgy thing is him being captured. It wouldn't suprise me if he was unarmed, and the police ended up shooting him, but just aren't admitting it...
well another account says they only had one 9mm gun between the two of them and they shot the police officer for his gun but that's why it's all confusing cause it doesn't add up. nothing about bombs in that account. then they were claiming they took his gun and the youngest had it with him in the boat then shot himself, next they say he was unarmed so all the details is muddled. i do believe they did it but don't believe everything that's happened afterwards.

[xxMATTGxx]

I've been looking into some of the theories but there is also actual legit reasons for what some people have been saying. Not sure if any new ones come up but it's hard to believe unless you have access to all of the evidence yourself.

[wixard]

i can understand the logic if he did shoot himself though, he's a kid and you see people put a gun in their mouth and shoot upwards to kill themselves, this kid may have freaked, put the gun in his mouth but just shot straight without thinking

none of us were there, so we'll never know the full story but there's enough evidence imo to show that it was them, regardless of the story constantly changing

[mrwoooooooo]

i can understand the logic if he did shoot himself though, he's a kid and you see people put a gun in their mouth and shoot upwards to kill themselves, this kid may have freaked, put the gun in his mouth but just shot straight without thinking

none of us were there, so we'll never know the full story but there's enough evidence imo to show that it was them, regardless of the story constantly changing

I swear I read somewhere that they didn't find a gun in the boat?

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[Adam]

People will always find a way to get from point A to point B using conspiracy theories. It's amazing how much time people have.

[wixard]

I swear I read somewhere that they didn't find a gun in the boat?

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yeah i know, it was reported he shot himself but others are saying no gun so it would have been the police
if it WAS him though, i'm saying i can understand how he could have ****** it up

just wondering why the police would shoot at him though if they had him surrounded on the boat, and knew that the only way to get answers would be to keep him alive

[GommeInc]

The shoot out looked real enough from the photos someone took of the events. From the two behind a car in the road being shot at, to the elder brother being run over by the younger brother, who passes in between two police cars. There were a few pictures of bomb disposal robots blowing up suspected explosives too. I'll see if I can find them.

Regardless of the theories, loads of people were killed and these two were acting incredibly guilty for two supposedly innocent people. Why steal a car if you're innocent? Why shoot at the police chasing you? Very guilty actions for "harmless", innocent individuals.

[AgnesIO]

Media stories contradicting means nothing. I get when people say the government did it... But for the media to be on it too, literally hundreds if not thousands of people would have to be in on it...

... as if that wouldn't get leaked :S