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bam..its..abbz
17-04-2013, 10:20 PM
Nobodys perfect right?

15 years of life everyones made mistakes havnt they?
This was my mistake.


http://i47.tinypic.com/33ksz1v.jpg





I've never had the guts to talk about it to people in real.
I'm scared of people calling me names because I self harmed.

I wanted to let you know I'm probably not the only one on here right. I want to help make a difference
If your in the same situation as me don't keep it a secret let it out, its not as bad as you think you know.
People are very understanding nowadays and most likely you won't get judged.
If anyone in these situations wants to talk to someone you are always welcome to pm me anytime you wish. Its so much easy when you open up to someone. I kept everything inside for so long I had nothing
I spoke to a councillor it was 10x better , she was great actually helped me through everything. I don't mind discussing this at all now. So please don't keep it inside please open up to someone
A teacher, friend , counciller , school , parents , anyone
Even me? :-)


Hope this has helped anyone?




And if you don't have anything nice to say , don't say it . Yeh you have your opiniosn but if it is going to hurt someone don't say it :-) Thanks<3 - abbie

CaptainAce
17-04-2013, 10:33 PM
From one geordie to another, it takes guts to share what you've gone through. I have previously SH and i'm currently battling through depression. But hey ho, life goes on slowly but surely. Where theres hope, theres a little bit of life left.

Narnat,
17-04-2013, 10:34 PM
I think what you've just done is really brave actually (Maybe that should have been in a spoiler though) - I admire the fact that you've got help and you're willing to help other people.

bam..its..abbz
17-04-2013, 10:36 PM
From one geordie to another, it takes guts to share what you've gone through. I have previously SH and i'm currently battling through depression. But hey ho, life goes on slowly but surely. Where theres hope, theres a little bit of life left.

Admired, :) well never give up on life. I'm always here if you want a chat sometime x

Samantha
17-04-2013, 10:36 PM
I know people on here will appreciate this, especially those who have self harmed previously.

bam..its..abbz
17-04-2013, 10:37 PM
I think what you've just done is really brave actually (Maybe that should have been in a spoiler though) - I admire the fact that you've got help and you're willing to help other people.

Aw thank you , means a lot :) makes me feel more confidant thanks nat

sex
17-04-2013, 10:38 PM
could have put that in a spoiler, wasn't expecting that at all..
you're brave to open up about it, hope you're better now :)

CaptainAce
17-04-2013, 10:39 PM
Admired, :) well never give up on life. I'm always here if you want a chat sometime x

Giving up isn't in my nature, luckily ;) I'm sure we shall have a chat at somepoint. And if you need a chat or anything, i'm here for you also.

bam..its..abbz
17-04-2013, 10:44 PM
Giving up isn't in my nature, luckily ;) I'm sure we shall have a chat at somepoint. And if you need a chat or anything, i'm here for you also.

Thank you , and sure anytime x :)

CaptainAce
17-04-2013, 10:46 PM
Thank you , and sure anytime x :)

No problem. If one cannot lean on another from time to time, then the world is truelly *REMOVED* up.

Edited by Bolt660 (Forum Moderator): Please don't avoid the filter.

Stephen
18-04-2013, 01:06 AM
anyone else mentions the word brave in a thread like this again and ill -rep you till you die

Shannon
18-04-2013, 09:09 AM
Awww, your so brave and yes i agree, your right, its better to talk about things than not :)

bam..its..abbz
18-04-2013, 11:09 AM
Awww, your so brave and yes i agree, your right, its better to talk about things than not :)

Thank you x for understanding :) x

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anyone else mentions the word brave in a thread like this again and ill -rep you till you die
<3. :)

e5
18-04-2013, 11:48 AM
Wish I understood more the mentality of self harmers. I'm not going to give criticism, because I genuinely don't know why people do it and where it gets them, but i'd love to know why people do it and how they think it helps them.

buttons
18-04-2013, 12:03 PM
Wish I understood more the mentality of self harmers. I'm not going to give criticism, because I genuinely don't know why people do it and where it gets them, but i'd love to know why people do it and how they think it helps them.
many reasons, even as a self-harmer i don't understand why everyone does. personally for me it's an anger issue over a home issue i cannot change or express my anger over in any other way. i realise there are other ways to cope but it's like an impulsive thing, say you're angry and whatever you have in your hand you through it and regret it instantly. that's the kinda feeling i get. the thing with self-harm is you'd never know to do it unless you've heard of it or seen it, which is the same case as drinking alcohol which i'll use to compare the two in a sec.

i had seen people self-harm when i was younger so i wondered if it would help me too and tbh it didn't at that time because i had no reason for it. anyway, one day a few year back i was having a bad home life, its a situation i couldn't and still can't escape and i have no way of coping with the anger. so i suddenly remembered about a blade i have from years ago in my jewellery box and i got this weird adrenaline rush from merely thinking of it. got it out my jewellery box and you know the score. after that it was kind of like my holy grail for relief.

and you know if you have a bad week or stressful day at work,school blahblah you think "ah it's ok, i can go home and have a beer" whatever, its like that. because you know the blade will always give you that relief no matter what. in a sense it's like an addiction. and in a sense, drinking alcohol to relieve your stress is also a form of self-harm, you harm yourself in order to relieve yourself from that stress/pain. so maybe if you could understand it in that way, then you can understand self-harm too. because you have that one thing that will always give you relief from any pain you have, then it's hard to stop it. this is how i understand addiction and this is how i understand self-harm but i can't speak for anyone else.

its nice to know you don't judge because you don't understand, i think that's the best way to go about certain topics and i really wish more people were like that other than "i don't understand therefore it's wrong" approach.

although i don't understand why anyone wants to show their scars as it's quite a private thing and a battle with yourself but if it helps someone then hey why not. i do not agree with it and feel like it degrades other self-harmers who find it a private often shameful experience so i don't really wish to comment on this thread but i wanted to answer your question.

e5
18-04-2013, 12:09 PM
Thank you for helping me understand a little better. Part of me used to think that self harmers somewhat get a thrill from hurting themselves? I'm not too sure whether I believe that or not. I want to understand you're comparison to drinking beer, and part of me does, because I understand why people drink beer to forget/relieve stress - but that doesn't necessarily cause physical pain (short term anyway) whereas I would have thought self harming does? and it would probably last for a few hours afterwards?

I've always had the mentality that people shouldn't post their scars on the internet as some people are offended, although as you said it may help them, but I more agree with the point you made about how it is a private matter and you wouldn't openly self harm infront of someone, so why would you want the post the aftermath for all to see? I guess when you do it, it's a burst of adrenaline where you're just not thinking. I won't ever fully understand why people do it but I somewhat feel a bit more enlightened now :)


many reasons, even as a self-harmer i don't understand why everyone does. personally for me it's an anger issue over a home issue i cannot change or express my anger over in any other way. i realise there are other ways to cope but it's like an impulsive thing, say you're angry and whatever you have in your hand you through it and regret it instantly. that's the kinda feeling i get. the thing with self-harm is you'd never know to do it unless you've heard of it or seen it, which is the same case as drinking alcohol which i'll use to compare the two in a sec.

i had seen people self-harm when i was younger so i wondered if it would help me too and tbh it didn't at that time because i had no reason for it. anyway, one day a few year back i was having a bad home life, its a situation i couldn't and still can't escape and i have no way of coping with the anger. so i suddenly remembered about a blade i have from years ago in my jewellery box and i got this weird adrenaline rush from merely thinking of it. got it out my jewellery box and you know the score. after that it was kind of like my holy grail for relief.

and you know if you have a bad week or stressful day at work,school blahblah you think "ah it's ok, i can go home and have a beer" whatever, its like that. because you know the blade will always give you that relief no matter what. in a sense it's like an addiction. and in a sense, drinking alcohol to relieve your stress is also a form of self-harm, you drink because it will relax you from that stress. so maybe if you could understand it in that way, then you can understand self-harm too. because you have that one thing that will always give you relief from any pain you have, then it's hard to stop it. this is how i understand addiction and this is how i understand self-harm but i can't speak for anyone else.

its nice to know you don't judge because you don't understand, i think that's the best way to go about certain topics and i really wish more people were like that other than "i don't understand therefore it's wrong" approach.

although i don't understand why anyone wants to show their scars as it's quite a private thing and a battle with yourself but if it helps someone then hey why not. i do not agree with it and feel like it degrades other self-harmers who find it a private often shameful experience so i don't really wish to comment on this thread but i wanted to answer your question.

buttons
18-04-2013, 12:28 PM
Thank you for helping me understand a little better. Part of me used to think that self harmers somewhat get a thrill from hurting themselves? I'm not too sure whether I believe that or not. I want to understand you're comparison to drinking beer, and part of me does, because I understand why people drink beer to forget/relieve stress - but that doesn't necessarily cause physical pain (short term anyway) whereas I would have thought self harming does? and it would probably last?

I've always had the mentality that people shouldn't post their scars on the internet as some people are offended, although as you said it may help them, but I more agree with the point you made about how it is a private matter and you wouldn't openly self harm infront of someone, so why would you want the post the aftermath for all to see? I guess when you do it, it's a burst of adrenaline where you're just not thinking. I won't ever fully understand why people do it but I somewhat feel a bit more enlightened now :)
there probably are people who get a thrill out of it. self-harming is even very common in sociopaths who do it in order to feel SOMETHING, not because they want to feel pain. my point with drinking and self-harming i will explain in a bit too but for me self-harm isn't about feeling pain and it isn't about the desire to commit suicide. (suicide risk is fairly low, people have such stupid misconceptions about self-harm and once they hear it's not about suicide they ask why the hell we do it then don't even wish to understand when i try to explain) *FOR ME* it's about getting RID of pain rather than GIVE myself pain. if you have such pent up emotions which you can't express then self-harming kind of relaxes and eases you, like alcohol does. but that's just me. people do it for different reasons. another thing is that self-harm is control, you control your own pain. for example if you hurt yourself by mistake ie a paper cut, it's different than being in control of your pain whereas you can't be in control of other non self-harming pain (like your emotions..).

sometimes people do it to punish themselves for 'being a bad person', someone may do it because they hate themselves and so punish their body for it. i don't do it for that reason, i do it to relax my mind. i think i'm in the minority though and most people do it because they want to punish themselves but like i say, i can't speak for them.

mine is an impulsive thing which happens when i'm triggered by one specific occurrence and i've learnt that if the event happens then i can control my anger through controlling pain, i think this may be the same as other people but because you learn that self-harm = relief then it's easy to use it when anything goes wrong, not just the original cause. it's the same with alcohol addiction, you could have low self-esteem so drink for a little confidence then begin taking it more for confidence every day and obviously leads into an addiction.

maybe it's a thing that can't be explained unless you're in that situation. i'll try to make people understand but if they don't then that's fine too, cause if they don't understand how someone can just take a razor to their wrist then they're lucky and should remain that way.

this topic is so, i dunno how to explain, but it's attacked so often on here that i'm really hesitant and even ashamed to write things like this, cause people make you feel like a bad person for doing it. i can't see how someone who hurts themselves is such a bad person? even if it's for attention, in some cases, that doesn't make you a bad person either. it makes me sick that people can be so ignorant towards it, publically declaring it's attention seeking and other misconceptions, not realising there are many reasons for it and that there are more people out there who do it than you'd realise, you could be saying it to a friend and not realising they do it or have ever done it.

Yawn
18-04-2013, 01:28 PM
gd for u abbie :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEtP9zQAOI4

Luke367
18-04-2013, 01:43 PM
You are brave to post that tbf fair play 2 u :) but everyone as done something in their lifes... No1 can go through live without doing mistakes and if anyone says different well they are lieing through their teeth.

Stephen
18-04-2013, 01:56 PM
brave is standing up in front of a school and teaching people about your experience with self-harm
brave isn't going behind a computer and posting on a forum where not many people know you or can see your face as you tell them about it

not sure why I got -repped because I'm talking about the people replying saying it's brave, not hating on the op for making the thread

Although I do think that posting pictures of the aftermath of that form of self-harm isn't needed because it just adds to the stereotype that all self-harmers cut

Kieran
18-04-2013, 02:09 PM
I've never really understand the reason for people selfharming. My mum's a head of year and part of her job is child protection. She tells me how if one girl does it... her friends start doing it. I just don't get it!?

e5
18-04-2013, 02:37 PM
Read Buttons' posts.

I've never really understand the reason for people selfharming. My mum's a head of year and part of her job is child protection. She tells me how if one girl does it... her friends start doing it. I just don't get it!?

Kieran
18-04-2013, 02:48 PM
Read Buttons' posts.

To me, that still doesn't explain the mentality behind it.

buttons
18-04-2013, 02:59 PM
To me, that still doesn't explain the mentality behind it.
i don't know how to explain it other than "there are many different reasons. not everything fits all." in your case it's probably monkey see monkey do. we wouldn't self-harm with a razor blade unless we knew that's what other people do to ease the pain, we would find other ways. we wouldn't know to drink alcohol for confidence unless someone told us about it. it's learnt. i learnt self-harm from someone whilst i was at school, tried it to see if it made me feel better and it didnt, then remembered it later and this time it did.

uh don't brand every self-harmer under the category of teenage girls copying each other. it's simply not true. and as Stephen said, it's not only cutting yourself. do you ever get drunk when you're stressed/angry? can you understand people who do? that's how i can explain my situation, its a way of getting relief from a stressful situation BUT other people do it for other reasons. people do it to feel something, people do it to punish their bodies feeling as though they deserve it.

is there any point me going on, are you really hoping to understand? or will i just leave now because im not going in-depth and writing about something personal anymore just to be told its stupid, pointless and wrong by people who aren't even willing to understand and still want to bash others.

sex
18-04-2013, 03:01 PM
brave is standing up in front of a school and teaching people about your experience with self-harm
brave isn't going behind a computer and posting on a forum where not many people know you or can see your face as you tell them about it

not sure why I got -repped because I'm talking about the people replying saying it's brave, not hating on the op for making the thread

Although I do think that posting pictures of the aftermath of that form of self-harm isn't needed because it just adds to the stereotype that all self-harmers cut

yeah because if they are doing it in the first place they will really have the confidence to get it in-front of an entire school to tell people what they did. its a lot easier to post things online and tell people about your story.

mrwoooooooo
18-04-2013, 03:18 PM
So many self hammers on hxf omg. Maybe Habbo causes depression

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e5
18-04-2013, 03:26 PM
Self hammers? Despite your mis-spelling of the word, I don't think your post is appropriate.

So many self hammers on hxf omg. Maybe Habbo causes depression

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Empired
18-04-2013, 04:11 PM
Ok I have some questions as I've never self-harmed and, although I understand why other people do it, I can't get my head around one thing: are you not afraid of the pain? I would be terrified about how much it would hurt although I'm not sure why. Sometimes I feel I'd rather walk out in front of a car (hypothetical ok!!) than cut or something because it would be easier for people to understand me.

Not sure why, but I feel like I'd want other people to understand that I'm struggling with life (therefore involving them by jumping in front of a car) rather than secretly cutting. Because then NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW so it would never get better?? I assume me thinking like this just means I'm not depressed, meaning I can't understand how a depressed person would think.

Also, if my mum found out I was cutting she would kill me :L Is this partly why self-harmers keep it to themselves? Because they are afraid people will be angry at them?

Stephen
18-04-2013, 04:11 PM
Self hammers? Despite your mis-spelling of the word, I don't think your post is appropriate.

you could be both by hammering nails into the wall with your head

mrwoooooooo
18-04-2013, 04:14 PM
Self hammers? Despite your mis-spelling of the word, I don't think your post is appropriate.

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Deal+with+it_12e775_4191317.gif

Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

Stephen
18-04-2013, 04:19 PM
Ok I have some questions as I've never self-harmed and, although I understand why other people do it, I can't get my head around one thing: are you not afraid of the pain? I would be terrified about how much it would hurt although I'm not sure why. Sometimes I feel I'd rather walk out in front of a car (hypothetical ok!!) than cut or something because it would be easier for people to understand me.

Not sure why, but I feel like I'd want other people to understand that I'm struggling with life (therefore involving them by jumping in front of a car) rather than secretly cutting. Because then NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW so it would never get better?? I assume me thinking like this just means I'm not depressed, meaning I can't understand how a depressed person would think.

Also, if my mum found out I was cutting she would kill me :L Is this partly why self-harmers keep it to themselves? Because they are afraid people will be angry at them?

jumping in front of a car or whatever would probs be more like a cry for help

when you overdose or end up in hospital from something self inflicted, one of the first things they do is send a crowd of psychs to your bed and ask if you did it on purpose

for me that would be alot easier than telling someone that you're severely depressed or self-harm but i guess people are different

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http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Deal+with+it_12e775_4191317.gif


lol fail

Empired
18-04-2013, 04:21 PM
jumping in front of a car or whatever would probs be more like a cry for help

when you overdose or end up in hospital from something self inflicted, one of the first things they do is send a crowd of psychs to your bed and ask if you did it on purpose

for me that would be alot easier than telling someone that you're severely depressed or self-harm but i guess people are different
yeah exactly. Self-harming seems mad to me because you're keeping it to yourself so you'll never ever ever get better because no one else knows to help??

I genuinely don't think many people actually want to die, most attempted suicides are people who can't work out how else to tell people without doing something completely drastic. Just my opinion though- I could be wrong.

buttons
18-04-2013, 05:26 PM
Ok I have some questions as I've never self-harmed and, although I understand why other people do it, I can't get my head around one thing: are you not afraid of the pain? I would be terrified about how much it would hurt although I'm not sure why. Sometimes I feel I'd rather walk out in front of a car (hypothetical ok!!) than cut or something because it would be easier for people to understand me.

Not sure why, but I feel like I'd want other people to understand that I'm struggling with life (therefore involving them by jumping in front of a car) rather than secretly cutting. Because then NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW so it would never get better?? I assume me thinking like this just means I'm not depressed, meaning I can't understand how a depressed person would think.

Also, if my mum found out I was cutting she would kill me :L Is this partly why self-harmers keep it to themselves? Because they are afraid people will be angry at them?
Ok Wikipedia has actually done a fabulous job at explaining self-harm :) let me quote the exerts which i feel explains my own situation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-harm

"The motivations for self-harm vary as it may be used to fulfill a number of different functions.[12] These functions include self-harm being used as a coping mechanism which provides temporary relief of intense feelings such as anxiety, depression, stress, emotional numbness and a sense of failure or self-loathing. There is also a positive statistical correlation between self-harm and emotional abuse.[14][15] Self-harm may become a means of managing and controlling pain, in contrast to the pain experienced earlier in the sufferers life of which they had no control over (e. g. through abuse).[49]"
"Many people who self-harm state that it allows them to "go away" or dissociate, separating the mind from feelings that are causing anguish. This may be achieved by tricking the mind into believing that the present suffering being felt is caused by the self-harm instead of the issues they were facing previously: the physical pain therefore acts as a distraction from the original emotional pain.[25] To complement this theory, one can consider the need to "stop" feeling emotional pain and mental agitation. "A person may be hyper-sensitive and overwhelmed; a great many thoughts may be revolving within their mind, and they may either become triggered or could make a decision to stop the overwhelming feelings. "[53]
"Those who engage in self-harm face the contradictory reality of harming themselves while at the same time obtaining relief from this act. It may even be hard for some to actually initiate cutting, but they often do because they know the relief that will follow. For some self-harmers this relief is primarily psychological while for others this feeling of relief comes from the beta endorphins released in the brain.[12] Endorphins are endogenous opioids that are released in response to physical injury, act as natural painkillers, and induce pleasant feelings and would act to reduce tension and emotional distress.[2] Many self-harmers report feeling very little to no pain while self-harming[38] and, for some, deliberate self-harm may become a means of seeking pleasure.Alternatively, self-harm may be a means of feeling something, even if the sensation is unpleasant and painful. Those who self-harm sometimes describe feelings of emptiness or numbness (anhedonia), and physical pain may be a relief from these feelings. "A person may be detached from himself or herself, detached from life, numb and unfeeling. They may then recognise the need to function more, or have a desire to feel real again, and a decision is made to create sensation and 'wake up'. "[53]
As a coping mechanism, self-harm can become psychologically addictive because, to the self-harmer, it works; it enables him or her to deal with intense stress in the current moment. The patterns sometimes created by it, such as specific time intervals between acts of self-harm, can also create a behavioural pattern that can result in a wanting or craving to fulfill thoughts of self-harm.[54]"

in simplest terms; inflicting pain you can control serves as a relief for the psychological feelings that you can't control. i don't like pain that i didnt inflict on myself ie a paper cut, it's like if you drink to get drunk u accept that because it was in your control but if you were drinking soft drinks and that got spiked, you wouldn't accept that or like it.

"may become triggered or make a decision to stop the overwhelming feelings" yes because it's a learnt behaviour, u learn the self injury will make you feel better when your feelings are boiling up so each time it happens u return to the self injury knowing its instant relief same with taking alcohol or drugs (which is also self harm if you use it to forget your feelings. you understand drug and alcohol abuse right? then self injury is the same concept, just looked down on for some reason rofl I guess because it's harder to understand)

physical pain cuts out the emotional pain which some would rather feel because "they know the relief that will follow". there's even a psychological explanation to it - your psychological pain goes away and endorphins are released in response to physical injury and we all know endorphins make u happy!!!! so it's same case as to why people take drugs, they do a harmful activity in order to feel relief or happiness. thank god psychologists understand it, if only the rest of the public would.

if you're overwhelmed by stress it may be easy for you to talk to another person about it but for others we can't (trust me, ive tried ways which should have solved my situation but it's stil there and whilst it is, I can't express anger over it in any other ways. I must keep this anger to myself hence the hiding it.) so instead they express it through self injury or self harm by means of alcohol drugs etc whilst others channel it through exercise and hobbies etc. but for some people it could be because they hate themselves so take it out on their bodies, accepting the pain because they feel they deserve it. whilst some people do it because they WANT to feel pain, to get away from the nothingness depression/sociopathology may cause.

holy **** u go wikipedia. if there are millions of people out there going through the same as me then no longer will i listen to this "it's stupid!! it makes no sense to self harm!! i wouldn't do it therefore how can anyone else!!" mentality.

also explains that self injury isn't a form of suicide... I hope it explains that but if not i won't even go there.

bam..its..abbz
18-04-2013, 07:28 PM
Wish I understood more the mentality of self harmers. I'm not going to give criticism, because I genuinely don't know why people do it and where it gets them, but i'd love to know why people do it and how they think it helps them.

Pm me sometime, if your interested x

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Ok I have some questions as I've never self-harmed and, although I understand why other people do it, I can't get my head around one thing: are you not afraid of the pain? I would be terrified about how much it would hurt although I'm not sure why. Sometimes I feel I'd rather walk out in front of a car (hypothetical ok!!) than cut or something because it would be easier for people to understand me.

Not sure why, but I feel like I'd want other people to understand that I'm struggling with life (therefore involving them by jumping in front of a car) rather than secretly cutting. Because then NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW so it would never get better?? I assume me thinking like this just means I'm not depressed, meaning I can't understand how a depressed person would think.

Also, if my mum found out I was cutting she would kill me :L Is this partly why self-harmers keep it to themselves? Because they are afraid people will be angry at them?



Its not that scared of pain, it's more scared of life :/
didnt feel any pain didnt think about it that way.
its better not telling anyone as there's horrible people in this world. Get bullied, judged, sstereotyped.
i alway get stereo typed as a bad person because of self harm, from people who have never met me.
dont judge a book by its cover right?

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gd for u abbie :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEtP9zQAOI4


Omg <3

Empired
18-04-2013, 07:39 PM
Ok Wikipedia has actually done a fabulous job at explaining self-harm :) let me quote the exerts which i feel explains my own situation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-harm

snip


This was really helpful, especially the bit about people wanting to control their pain as they had had no control in earlier life. When people mentioned control before, I thought they were just trying to take control of their life or something :P


Pm me sometime, if your interested x

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Its not that scared of pain, it's more scared of life :/
didnt feel any pain didnt think about it that way.
its better not telling anyone as there's horrible people in this world. Get bullied, judged, sstereotyped.
i alway get stereo typed as a bad person because of self harm, from people who have never met me.
dont judge a book by its cover right?
I know that self harming people are afraid of life but, because I don't think like that, I find it very difficult to come to your way of thinking. It's like when you're not anorexic you think "how can those people think they look fat when they're 5 and a half stone???".

I KNOW why you do it, but I don't UNDERSTAND why you do it. Does that make sense? :P

bam..its..abbz
18-04-2013, 07:40 PM
brave is standing up in front of a school and teaching people about your experience with self-harm
brave isn't going behind a computer and posting on a forum where not many people know you or can see your face as you tell them about it

not sure why I got -repped because I'm talking about the people replying saying it's brave, not hating on the op for making the thread

Although I do think that posting pictures of the aftermath of that form of self-harm isn't needed because it just adds to the stereotype that all self-harmers cut

Well no , because you have confidence put yourself in my shoes would you stand in front of 100 people in my school and ttalk to them?

im a shy person , I hav confidence issues me problems not mentioned on here.
people can see my face if they wanted to.

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This was really helpful, especially the bit about people wanting to control their pain as they had had no control in earlier life. When people mentioned control before, I thought they were just trying to take control of their life or something :P


I know that self harming people are afraid of life but, because I don't think like that, I find it very difficult to come to your way of thinking. It's like when you're not anorexic you think "how can those people think they look fat when they're 5 and a half stone???".

I KNOW why you do it, but I don't UNDERSTAND why you do it. Does that make sense? :P


i get what you mean, it's very hard.

Stephen
18-04-2013, 08:21 PM
I'm confused

I'm saying posting about it isn't brave.. you're still allowed to post a thread about it without being brave

bam..its..abbz
18-04-2013, 08:24 PM
I'm confused

I'm saying posting about it isn't brave.. you're still allowed to post a thread about it without being brave

Your entitled to your own opinion

mrwoooooooo
18-04-2013, 09:02 PM
oh and btw that pic isn't of you

http://25.media.tumblr.com/949001d0461e11faddc1670bdced65e6/tumblr_mk3inpzD291r49gh4o1_500.jpg

CaptainAce
18-04-2013, 09:09 PM
I'm confused

I'm saying posting about it isn't brave.. you're still allowed to post a thread about it without being brave

Posting about it IS brave actually. Although I SH, I would not post a thread about it on here.. WHY? Because I know what people can be like online. Always judging, never being there for anyone when they do express how they really feel ect.. You try posting about something that you do or have done and you've kept it to yourself for weeks, months or even years then come back here and say its not brave.

bam..its..abbz
18-04-2013, 09:18 PM
oh and btw that pic isn't of you

http://25.media.tumblr.com/949001d0461e11faddc1670bdced65e6/tumblr_mk3inpzD291r49gh4o1_500.jpg

Um yeh I know. I don't want to phyically show you mine, I hide them up its horrible there horrible.:S if your really that concerned and would like to see mine I'd rather not but... did I not mention it wasn't of me? I thought I did sorry

Stephen
18-04-2013, 09:21 PM
and lol op got caught


Posting about it IS brave actually. Although I SH, I would not post a thread about it on here.. WHY? Because I know what people can be like online. Always judging, never being there for anyone when they do express how they really feel ect.. You try posting about something that you do or have done and you've kept it to yourself for weeks, months or even years then come back here and say its not brave.

I'm pretty sure enough people know the personal side of me on here but I really have no need to post about it

but if that's the definition of brave then I guess everyone's a damn mighty brave bugger

CaptainAce
18-04-2013, 09:23 PM
I'm pretty sure enough people know the personal side of me on here but I really have no need to post about it

but if that's the definition of brave then I guess everyone's a damn mighty brave bugger

Whatever mate, until you've walked in our shoes don't judge. Really is as simple as that.

bam..its..abbz
18-04-2013, 09:25 PM
Whatever mate, until you've walked in our shoes don't judge. Really is as simple as that.

Exactly , thank you <3
E

CaptainAce
18-04-2013, 09:31 PM
Exactly , thank you <3
E

No problem, just saying what is the truth. Ignorant people, theres always one. Anyway I thought this was a thread on Abby helping others with her own experience, not for you to find faults or for her to prove anything to you. If you cannot contribute to this thread in a positive manner, don't bother replying.

Stephen
18-04-2013, 09:53 PM
oh put a sock in it why don't you

the people I can't stand are the people that go about thinking they're the only ones

and here's a fact - You're not

so stop being overly defensive and get over it

CaptainAce
18-04-2013, 10:03 PM
Anyway I thought this was a thread on Abby helping others with her own experience, not for you to find faults or for her to prove anything to you. If you cannot contribute to this thread in a positive manner, don't bother replying.

I will quote the above incase you didn't see it.

Yawn
19-04-2013, 02:33 PM
baloo just snatched that pube wig right from ur scalp stephen i hope u know that

http://i.minus.com/iXrQiJJxrbXI5.gif

Adam
19-04-2013, 03:59 PM
It isn't bravery.

Empired
19-04-2013, 04:48 PM
Why post pictures of scars that aren't yours? :S If you're embarrassed about posting your own scars, surely posting somebody else's but not "mentioning" that they aren't your own is just the same?? We all thought these were yours.

There's no need to post somebody else's scars as an "example" (before you try to argue that in your defence) either, we all know what cutting is...........

CaptainAce
19-04-2013, 06:30 PM
I don't see what your problem is with the picture. She forgot to mention it, geez. Haven't you ever forgotten to do or say something in your lifetime? The whole point in this thread is for her to help people with her experience. Not so everyone can fault her for petty little things.

bam..its..abbz
19-04-2013, 07:31 PM
Got nothing nice to say , don't say it...

CaptainAce
19-04-2013, 08:42 PM
Yes, Abby. Some people can not seem to get their heads around that. Maybe they will one day. Anyway how are you?

Stephen
19-04-2013, 08:54 PM
tbh if you were gonna use a self-harm pic then you could have easily googled and got thousands of results

but that pic has only ever been on a few tumblr blogs

also you reuploaded it to tinypic instead of linking from the blog

not being mean actually i am cos i am mean sometimes because im behind a comp so im a big mean internet person but from my experiences watching detective jen do her forum detective work over the years, it all seems rather suspicious

Yawn
19-04-2013, 09:12 PM
can we stop harassing the self harmers. she had gd intentions regardless of wat the truth is and i think any negative ppl in the thread should suck up their pride and hang their heads in shame!!!

i want every wrong doer to apologise to bam..its..abbz after this line

thx

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Samantha
19-04-2013, 09:16 PM
The image comes directly below "This was my mistake" so I thought the image would be of you? Oh well it's posted now, it's nice to see someone post it, but bravery is different to many :P.

CaptainAce
19-04-2013, 10:13 PM
The image comes directly below "This was my mistake" so I thought the image would be of you? Oh well it's posted now, it's nice to see someone post it, but bravery is different to many :P.

Yup, I know bravery is different to many but theres no need for certain people to be so rude about things and constantly pick faults of others when they themselves, clearly have faults of their own. I pity those people who spend day after day sitting behind a computer just to pick on others on a forum.

jesus
19-04-2013, 10:15 PM
id say im as close to perfect as they get but thats just me

bam..its..abbz
19-04-2013, 10:40 PM
Since everyone's so bothered. Here is mine for the semi-colan project


http://i38.tinypic.com/5wia6w.jpg

bam..its..abbz
20-04-2013, 07:45 AM
tbh if you were gonna use a self-harm pic then you could have easily googled and got thousands of results

but that pic has only ever been on a few tumblr blogs

also you reuploaded it to tinypic instead of linking from the blog

not being mean actually i am cos i am mean sometimes because im behind a comp so im a big mean internet person but from my experiences watching detective jen do her forum detective work over the years, it all seems rather suspicious



Um actually it was on google, and I don't know what you mean link it from the blog?

Yawn
20-04-2013, 01:01 PM
that is rly brave of u to post that real piccy abbz

ur bravery knows no limits :)

Adam
20-04-2013, 04:51 PM
What in God's name is the semi colon project?

Rachel
20-04-2013, 05:14 PM
No one is perfect and only person is perfect is God even if some people do not believe etc. Everyone has their difficulies in life and also have strength. If everyone was perfect life would be boring to be honest.

geo
20-04-2013, 05:17 PM
What in God's name is the semi colon project?

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/kisselpaso.com/files/2013/04/BH7aSYICEAEVrqG-300x288.jpg

Stephen
20-04-2013, 07:17 PM
Since everyone's so bothered. Here is mine for the semi-colan project


http://i38.tinypic.com/5wia6w.jpg

the border around this image shows that it has been cut from somewhere (excuse the pun)

*REMOVED*

Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't be rude to others!

CaptainAce
20-04-2013, 07:22 PM
the border around this image shows that it has been cut from somewhere (excuse the pun)

*REMOVED*

She has nothing to prove to you or anyone else on this forum. I suggest you get a life, you obviously need one.

Ardemax
20-04-2013, 08:00 PM
She has nothing to prove to you or anyone else on this forum. I suggest you get a life, you obviously need one.

Sure she has nothing to prove, but she doesn't have to lie :S

Yawn
20-04-2013, 08:06 PM
ur all haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CaptainAce
20-04-2013, 08:12 PM
Sure she has nothing to prove, but she doesn't have to lie :S

Maybe she doesn't want to show you her scars? She doesn't HAVE to but some are putting pressure onto her to do it just because they think she is fake. Some of you are like sheep man. One does something, the others follow. And im not directing this at you, i'm directing it at the others who have been rude. Didn't your family ever teach you manners?

Ardemax
20-04-2013, 08:15 PM
Maybe she doesn't want to show you her scars? She doesn't HAVE to but some are putting pressure onto her to do it just because they think she is fake. Some of you are like sheep man. One does something, the others follow. And im not directing this at you, i'm directing it at the others who have been rude. Didn't your family ever teach you manners?

I'm just saying she shouldn't lie, regardless of whether she has to show her own pictures. If they aren't actually her then at least say so. I'm sure she's doing a great job with her story and how she's helping others and I don't want to take away from that.

Yes my family did teach me manners. They also taught me not to lie.

CaptainAce
20-04-2013, 08:23 PM
If someone has REAL proof that the picture she said to be of her are not of her, then alright. But, people are presuming. If you cut a picture out from your website for example, you might not be able to take all of the black bits out. Explore all options, instead of believing what one sheep said to the other. Until there is SOLID evidence such as its on google and not from any of her accounts, I will say okay she lied. Until then however, I refuse to listen to what the sheep gotta say.

Stephen
20-04-2013, 10:02 PM
She has nothing to prove to you or anyone else on this forum. I suggest you get a life, you obviously need one.

Some people are stuck inside because of severe anxiety, other personal reasons or disability. To tell anyone you don't know to get a life defeats your purpose of telling people to stop picking on someone with a mental disability

in otherwords

POT
KETTLE
BLACK

CaptainAce
20-04-2013, 10:16 PM
Some people are stuck inside because of severe anxiety, other personal reasons or disability. To tell anyone you don't know to get a life defeats your purpose of telling people to stop picking on someone with a mental disability

in otherwords

POT
KETTLE
BLACK

I think you'll find, brave and having courage means different things to everyone as Sam has said earlier in this thread. No one is right, no one is wrong. But really, bullying people because of one disability or another issue tells me you don't have a life. So you can swallow your whole pot kettle business. Either that or take note of it for yourself.

bam..its..abbz
20-04-2013, 11:47 PM
the border around this image shows that it has been cut from somewhere (excuse the pun)

*REMOVED*

Because I cut my brothers hand out and the colan sign... Problem?

CaptainAce
26-04-2013, 08:49 PM
I'm taking part in the butterfly project in my attempts to stop S/Hing. I want to keep the promise I made to my aunt to not do it anymore. Its going to be hard but I thought I should share this picture of my healing cuts with a butterfly that I have named Hope. If you don't know what the butterfly project is, search it up on google. Until you've walked into the shoes of a self harmer, don't judge.

http://oi43.tinypic.com/33dxs42.jpgW

Narnat,
26-04-2013, 09:21 PM
I'm taking part in the butterfly project in my attempts to stop S/Hing. I want to keep the promise I made to my aunt to not do it anymore. Its going to be hard but I thought I should share this picture of my healing cuts with a butterfly that I have named Hope. If you don't know what the butterfly project is, search it up on google. Until you've walked into the shoes of a self harmer, don't judge.

http://oi43.tinypic.com/33dxs42.jpgW


I done the butterfly project a few years ago and it actually really helped. Good luck!

CaptainAce
26-04-2013, 09:44 PM
I done the butterfly project a few years ago and it actually really helped. Good luck!

Thank you [:

Damos
27-04-2013, 12:15 AM
i could never self-harm because i hate pain.. but you sound like a really nice person and for one bit of your entire life do you deserve to ever feel like that again.

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