UKIP Head Embarrassed in Bulgaria

[AgnesIO]

Bulgarian's tell Farage...

We want to come to the UK? We want to invade Western Europe? We want to claim of the UK? No, that's right. They want to stay at their home. In Bulgaria.

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Bulgarian MEP says if they want to go somewhere, they will go to Spain or Italy - the climate is closer to what they are used to. Do they want to invade Britain? NO.


Roma Gypsy's response to Farage saying they could come to London and have a free house, heating etc? That's right! They said there is lots of rain in London. "Every stone has its rest" - they were born there and they want to stay there. Do they want to move to Britain? NO.



Gypsy leader says they don't want to move too - Farage seems gutted and speechless at this response. Do they want to move? NO.

Farage then goes and asks a whole room of graduates if they are looking to pack their bags and exploit Britain - and they all said NO.

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Farage really is made to look ridiculous, and somehow still insists the Bulgarians are going to come here. Despite that Bulgarians have stuck by their national pride. Good to see him speechless for once.



VIEW THE FULL VIDEO HERE (http://www.channel4.com/news/nigel-farage-ukip-immigration-bulgaria-romania-video)

[Agnostic Bear]

The view of a few do not represent the view of the many. They said the Polish and Romanians wouldn't come to the UK. Did they? Absolutely definitely not.

[mrwoooooooo]

The view of a few do not represent the view of the many. They said the Polish and Romanians wouldn't come to the UK. Did they? Absolutely definitely not.

You should see the school I work in, full of them.

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[Kardan]

The view of a few do not represent the view of the many. They said the Polish and Romanians wouldn't come to the UK. Did they? Absolutely definitely not.

Not sure if trolling or just unaware of the current situation...

[-:Undertaker:-]

Delightful, just logged on actually to post about this.

Now, the BBC have been (over the past few days) claiming that Eastern Europeans in Romania and Bulgaria have no intention of moving to the United Kingdom when the borders are opened in January 2014 - and that only a small percentage so far have signalled their intention (according to the BBC poll) to move over here. What the BBC don't say however is this...

http://order-order.com/2013/04/24/secret-bbc-poll-results-350000-on-way-to-uk/

http://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/bbc-figs.gif?w=480&h=328


“No indication of huge Romanian-Bulgarian influx”, is the BBC spin from their poll of potential migrants to the UK. The reassuring results show just 4.2% of Bulgarians and 1% of Romanians are making definite plans to come to Britain in 2013 or 2014. For some reason the Beeb haven’t mentioned how that translates into actual real numbers. 4.2% of 4.67 million working age Bulgarians equals 196,140, and 1% of 15.3 million working age Romanians equates to 153,000, making a pretty daunting total of 349,140. Not that you’d hear that number from the BBC themselves…

That graph above is done via the Beeb's own numbers - and its frightening. Of course less could come (very unlikely) or more could come when you take into account that polls regarding where people are going to move are unreliable, ie a poll for the Mail found nearly 50% of Britons were 'considering' moving abroad... but of course 50% of us aren't going to leave realistically are we?

UKIP are highlighting the madness of this policy of opening the borders - when Poland and other Eastern European countries joined the EU in the early 2000s, the Labour government at the time predicted only tens of thousands... and HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS came. Is it any wonder why the present government is refusing to release the figures on how many they expect to come? Could UKIP maybe be on to something?

Nice try though, same goes for the BBC. But I wonder who looks ridiculous now without doing their homework?

To anybody reading this - if you have an ounce of common sense and realise that hundreds of thousands of people cannot simply be allowed to enter this country without any checks and in such large numbers where our free healthcare, schools and welfare come under immense strain... then you only have one sane option, and thats to vote UKIP. The rest of the world are allowed to control who enters their country and who doesn't - we deserve that same right aswell. It's not about disliking foreigners or anything - it's just about some common sense.

[Agnostic Bear]

Not sure if trolling or just unaware of the current situation...

Given Undertaker's as-usual enlightening post, right back at you buddy.

[AgnesIO]

Delightful, just logged on actually to post about this.

Now, the BBC have been (over the past few days) claiming that Eastern Europeans in Romania and Bulgaria have no intention of moving to the United Kingdom when the borders are opened in January 2014 - and that only a small percentage so far have signalled their intention (according to the BBC poll) to move over here. What the BBC don't say however is this...

http://order-order.com/2013/04/24/secret-bbc-poll-results-350000-on-way-to-uk/

http://orderorder.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/bbc-figs.gif?w=480&h=328



That graph above is done via the Beeb's own numbers - and its frightening. Of course less could come (very unlikely) or more could come when you take into account that polls regarding where people are going to move are unreliable, ie a poll for the Mail found nearly 50% of Britons were 'considering' moving abroad... but of course 50% of us aren't going to leave realistically are we?

UKIP are highlighting the madness of this policy of opening the borders - when Poland and other Eastern European countries joined the EU in the early 2000s, the Labour government at the time predicted only tens of thousands... and HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS came. Is it any wonder why the present government is refusing to release the figures on how many they expect to come? Could UKIP maybe be on to something?

Nice try though, same goes for the BBC. But I wonder who looks ridiculous now without doing their homework?

To anybody reading this - if you have an ounce of common sense and realise that hundreds of thousands of people cannot simply be allowed to enter this country without any checks and in such large numbers where our free healthcare, schools and welfare come under immense strain... then you only have one sane option, and thats to vote UKIP. The rest of the world are allowed to control who enters their country and who doesn't - we deserve that same right aswell. It's not about disliking foreigners or anything - it's just about some common sense.

Not sure why you think it is "very unlikely" less would come. Using your own example of Britons, that would suggest that more SAY they will do something, than actually will - meaning less will come than the BBC suggest?

Also, do you happen to hold statistics for OTHER EU states (ie. Spain and Italy), and their predictions on the numbers going there? I mean, certainly from the Farage headed C4 video, the majority would rather go to the PIGS than Britain.

Once again, on the basis Eastern European Immigrants have paid more into the system than they have taken out, I cannot see the issue with our so called "free" healthcare - I mean you bang on enough yourself about how it ISN'T really free - you either need to stick to the idea that it is free or it isn't - not change your mind depending on the debate. UKIP will be gone just as fast as it has risen - people turn to extreme parties like Europe in times of austerity, meaning they will - thankfully - soon die out.

[Inseriousity.]

Speechless cos it was the most bizarre question ever haha.

I don't really trust polls that much. It depends on what question they asked. If they asked Bulgarians, 'do you want to move to the UK', simply asking the question might put the idea into someone's head that they'd like to, doesn't necessarily mean that they will. Despite that, people will go to considerable lengths to escape poverty and I do not think we should be complacent about the numbers that could potentially arrive. Our Border Agency is a bit of a laughing stock with a huge backlog and it needs to be given the resources it needs to prepare itself as best as any system can for the worst case scenario.

[Stephen]

tbh i don't think even if they would move here they'd openly tell him yes when he's so against it

[AgnesIO]

tbh i don't think even if they would move here they'd openly tell him yes when he's so against it

Even when he asks them whether they want a "free house, free this, free that"? Don't see why they wouldn't be honest with him - hardly going to put them in any danger.

[edible]

If you track your own family history back they probably immigrated to Britain too. Probably because conditions were favourable to where they resided before going. We live on an island. I welcome everyone.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Not sure why you think it is "very unlikely" less would come. Using your own example of Britons, that would suggest that more SAY they will do something, than actually will - meaning less will come than the BBC suggest?

Unlikely due to the fact that once younger migrants arrive here, their friends and family will also come over in due time. But look, you've been caught out - the 'only 1%' nonsense that the Beeb and you are putting out is total rubbish when you actually look at the numbers. If I said that 1% of the Chinese population had HIV, that'd seem like a low amount - but in numbers its a high amount, just like this.

If its certain that low numbers will arrive, then why are the government refusing to release their estimates?


Also, do you happen to hold statistics for OTHER EU states (ie. Spain and Italy), and their predictions on the numbers going there? I mean, certainly from the Farage headed C4 video, the majority would rather go to the PIGS than Britain.

When they discover how hard it is getting work in southern Europe I think much will change. On statistics, erm you are the one who claimed low numbers were going to arrive? I and UKIP have stated all along that its likely to follow the same pattern as Poland did back in the 2000s where hundreds of thousands came in - and even BBC figures back us up.


Once again, on the basis Eastern European Immigrants have paid more into the system than they have taken out, I cannot see the issue with our so called "free" healthcare - I mean you bang on enough yourself about how it ISN'T really free - you either need to stick to the idea that it is free or it isn't - not change your mind depending on the debate.

The difference (very simple) being that British people have paid into the system (with those on higher wages bearing the biggest burden). I am afraid that low wage earners from Eastern Europe who do work barely manage to break the system even.


UKIP will be gone just as fast as it has risen - people turn to extreme parties like Europe in times of austerity, meaning they will - thankfully - soon die out.

The only extreme position here is the one you and the three main parties hold - that we should allow unlimited numbers of people from very poor countries and different cultures into our country without taking into consideration any impact on crime, cultural divisions or welfare/infrastructure. You are the extremist, UKIP simply want to do what most sovereign nations out of the EU do; sensibly control the borders.

As for dying parties, perhaps - but perhaps it'll work in my favour (http://conservativecompanion.co.uk/2013/03/25/column-tom-pike-the-right-wing-revolution-how-and-why-ukip-could-kill-the-conservative-party-part-1/).