East Sussex UKIP election candidate in holocaust storm

[Ardemax]

A UK Independence Party candidate in East Sussex has denied the holocaust, claiming World War Two was engineered by Zionists hoping to create the state of Israel.Anna-Marie Crampton is representing the eurosceptic party in Crowborough for the East Sussex County Council elections.

But, with polling day just a week away, groups have reacted angrily after a website entry in her name claimed World War Two was financed by Jewish “banksters” to make the world feel guilty.

A further comment said: “It was thanks to them that six million Jews were murdered in the war along with 26 million Russians.”

Sam Westrop, director of Stand for Peace, a leading Jewish-Muslim interfaith organisation, said: “Time after time, conspiracy and anti-Zionist sentiment is revealed to be nothing more than thinly-veiled anti-Semitism.

“UKIP, to its credit, has expelled extremist and bigoted members in the past.
“They must also expel Anna-Marie Crampton. Such hatred must be fought at all times.”

The comments were made in Ms Crampton’s name on an article titled “Was Pope Benedict fired by the Knights of Malta?” on an external website called Secrets of The Fed.


The entry said: “The Rothschilds are Zionists. There is a difference between Jews and Zionists.
“These psychopaths hide behind and use the Jews.

“It was thanks to them that six million Jews were murdered in the War along with 26 million Russians.”

'Tired of being lied to"

The Facebook account, from which the comments were made, also separately shows pictures of her wearing a party rosette while stood next to UKIP leader Nigel Farage.

Also on the profile, which claims to be verified by Facebook founder Mark Zuckerburg, is the statement: “I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I am a conscious, aware, critical thinker and tired of being lied to. Are you?!”

Despite numerous attempts to contact her, Ms Crampton, of Southview Road, Crowborough, was not available to comment yesterday.
She is standing for the party in the traditionally Conservative area alongside prominent UKIP member Sonia Finch.

A spokesman for UKIP said it would not be appropriate to comment until he had contacted Ms Crampton.
Manchester-based researcher Colin Cortbus, who contacted The Argus about the comments, said: "Anna Marie Crampton has revealed herself to be a repulsive anti-semite, who tramples upon history and truth with her baseless, long-discredited fabrications.

"Her use of the long discredited Protocols of the Elders of Zion, used by the Nazis as a cornerstone of their racist indoctrination programmes and as school textbooks, shows that she will stop at nothing to push her racist agenda. UKIP should be utterly ashamed of her."
Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany, France, Poland, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria and Lithuania.

See the article here: http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10378900.East_Sussex_UKIP_election_candidate_in_ho locaust_storm/

Thoughts?

[Chippiewill]

Bound to occur in an immature newly major party. UKIP ought to crack down on this kind of thing quickly as no doubt there are many UKIP candidates who are similarly minded.

[-:Undertaker:-]

All parties have problems with councillors and candidates for council seats, I could easily draw up a list of similar situations in the other three major parties. I would say about UKIP though that the NEC is pretty good at dealing with these things quickly (if proven true) so i'm not worried.

On a side note though relating to holocaust denial, I side very much like Christopher Hitchens sided with David Irving over it - might not agree, but I find the fact holocaust denial is illegal across Europe to be even more sinister than the thing itself. Best way to combat holocaust denial is to tackle it head on and debate it, and not cover it up. Obviously though as a candidate for a council seat (if true) this is a pretty major thing to consider when voting.

[-:Undertaker:-]

She's been suspended now.

[GommeInc]

She's been suspended now.
Problem avoided really, good on them sorting it so quickly and not making a media circus out of it. I do find it funny holocaust denial is illegal across parts of Europe. It seems a bit of a weird law to create for what is essentially a predominately civil matter rather than criminal. If people deny it, give them hell for their ignorance.

[Ardemax]

I didn't think people were idiotic enough to believe the holocaust didn't happen. Good on UKIP to suspend her though, it portrays a negative image for the party.

[GommeInc]

I didn't think people were idiotic enough to believe the holocaust didn't happen. Good on UKIP to suspend her though, it portrays a negative image for the party.
Individuals will always try to justify events, it always seems to happen :P Loads of people thought and still think America deserved the Boston bombings, regardless of the fact innocent people were killed with no links to the Iraq war or Afghanistan. It's hypocritical to kill people who you do not agree with because they cause repression or death, yet it's perfectly acceptable for you to do it. There's simply no justifying the death of innocent people on dodgy, baseless ideology. The loss of life due to the holocaust was horrendous, there's no denying it yet for some people they do. Absolute madness :P

[Ardemax]

Individuals will always try to justify events, it always seems to happen :P Loads of people thought and still think America deserved the Boston bombings, regardless of the fact innocent people were killed with no links to the Iraq war or Afghanistan. It's hypocritical to kill people who you do not agree with because they cause repression or death, yet it's perfectly acceptable for you to do it. There's simply no justifying the death of innocent people on dodgy, baseless ideology. The loss of life due to the holocaust was horrendous, there's no denying it yet for some people they do. Absolute madness :P

I guess it's just the mad/injustice-filled world we live in :)

[Chippiewill]

It seems a bit of a weird law to create for what is essentially a predominately civil matter rather than criminal. If people deny it, give them hell for their ignorance.
I suspect a lot of it is out of respect to the Germans, in the case of the Germans they might be worried about another tyrannical leader going all 1984 and making everyone think the holocaust didn't happen. Either way it's for people's own good to ensure they don't think the holocaust is a lie and preventing people from spreading the notion that it didn't happen can also only be a good idea.

[AgnesIO]

To be expected from a racist party really.

[-:Undertaker:-]

To be expected from a racist party really.

Name one racist policy.

[Chippiewill]

Name one racist policy.

Blocking immigrants from entering.

[AgnesIO]

Name one racist policy.

Personally I would say blocking pretty much all immigration is racist, on the basis I cannot see a reason why this is necessarily needed. "We'll accept you if you will be a huge benefit to us, otherwise you can **** off" style policy.

The BNP's policy; Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases.

Wow that sounds similar.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Blocking immigrants from entering.

The last time I checked 'immigration' wasn't a race.


Personally I would say blocking pretty much all immigration is racist, on the basis I cannot see a reason why this is necessarily needed. "We'll accept you if you will be a huge benefit to us, otherwise you can **** off" style policy.

The BNP's policy; Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases.

Wow that sounds similar.

As your evidently too lazy to actually check the policies, i'll briefly explain them to you. The BNP policy was to virtually halt all immigration into this country (and here's the genuine racist part) they proposed to implement a programme of voluntary repartriation - essentially saying to people from immigrant families who have settled in this country; your not really British, so go 'home'.

The UKIP policy is quite different. The policy is to halt all permanent settlement for a period of five years whilst the system is overhauled (work visas would still be issued) and after a period of five years an Australian style immigration system would be in place where only those who a) wouldn't be a drag on the state b) offer skills we are in need of would be allowed in. The system would also have a cap to ensure that those arriving to these shores would be able to integrate properly. Also, unlike the present system - people from Africa (blacks) and people from Europe (whites) would be treated the same when applying... whereas now the system allows any white European to walk in but not a black African or brown Arab.

Now I fail to see the racism in the UKIP policy there, maybe you'd like to actually look at the manifesto and immigration policy document (you know, instead of throwing around 2005esque insults) and then come back and point out the racist part.

[GommeInc]

I suspect a lot of it is out of respect to the Germans, in the case of the Germans they might be worried about another tyrannical leader going all 1984 and making everyone think the holocaust didn't happen. Either way it's for people's own good to ensure they don't think the holocaust is a lie and preventing people from spreading the notion that it didn't happen can also only be a good idea.
Possibly, but creating laws on the fear of the unknown seems a weird idea to have to me :P Plus trying to spread the idea that the holocaust did not happen seems equal to a plea of insanity. There are no doubt laws already in existence in these countries for this very reason. It's like people who believe so much the moon is made out of cheese. Label them insane and be done with it :P

[Grig]

Stopping immigration is not racist, the reasons are more fundamental than that, it goes back to the point of what is the whole point of immigration? If it is to simply allow people to enjoy better lives elsewhere, that for a country shouldn't be the point, albeit it is against a moral angle.