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Casanova
06-05-2013, 04:56 PM
Can you tell me why Jamesy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=34640) whom was amongst the longest serving staff member's in higher management (and the longest serving technical member?) doesn't have VIP nor a badge of merit?

Whereas people like Hoteluser, Oli & flyingjesus have merit, in the first two instances VIP?

What a load of ****e, get it sorted.

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And before anyone doubts it, remember for a few years Jamesy & Jin were the only two with 'superadmin' accounts ;)?
The only two will full back end access? He was the backbone of Habbox for years!

Martin
06-05-2013, 04:59 PM
I think he should certainly have merit, and im pretty sure he did at one point, so no idea why he doesnt. Managers who are management for a certain amount of time and over get merrit, as well as those who have made a special contribution, which Jamesey certainly did :) Not really sure about the vip, since he hasnt logged in since february 2012 and I don't think he plans on coming back last time I spoke to him :(

Casanova
06-05-2013, 05:01 PM
He doesn't but it doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the respect to have it, he was for a long time more critical to HX & HXF than hoteluser, oli, garion, mattg or jin combined...

Martin
06-05-2013, 05:03 PM
He doesn't but it doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the respect to have it, he was for a long time more critical to HX & HXF than hoteluser, oli, garion, mattg or jin combined...

Im sure he did have vip for quite a while after leaving, but I would assume it runs out after a certain amount of months :P I'm sure it wouldnt hurt to give him some more though if thats what management want to do

Casanova
06-05-2013, 05:05 PM
He deserves it back, I mean the old initial team members retain it like JRH, I'm sure.
And his merit, even if he isn't here he deserves to be recognized.

xxMATTGxx
06-05-2013, 05:06 PM
And before anyone doubts it, remember for a few years Jamesy & Jin were the only two with 'superadmin' accounts ;)?

The only two will full back end access? He was the backbone of Habbox for years!


No one will remember that because that was never the case. Jamesy was already in Habbox Merit but for some reason it took him out of the group. Fixed it for him but nothing to rant/rage about but hey ho, welcome back.

Casanova
06-05-2013, 05:08 PM
My memory may be fuzzy but even if I made **** up it's still totally unfair he lacks his merit & VIP, as we all know Jamesy would only want purple vip.
Do it, platypus.

xxMATTGxx
06-05-2013, 05:10 PM
My memory may be fuzzy but even if I made **** up it's still totally unfair he lacks his merit & VIP, as we all know Jamesy would only want purple vip.
Do it, platypus.

Memory is very fuzzy coming up with claims like that.

Casanova
06-05-2013, 05:12 PM
He had a superadmin account, I'm sure of it.
Stop ignoring me, purple vip & badge of merit. Unless you can tell me why he wouldn't deserve it when other's have done way less and walk around with it.

Like flyingjesus (or he did have it the last time I knew). What was his job? he spent a month doing nothing but creating arguments on the forum. Like every other month.

It was probably hoteluser that removed his merit & VIP anyway, we all know the sheer hatred he had for Jamesy :rolleyes:?

xxMATTGxx
06-05-2013, 05:17 PM
He had a superadmin account, I'm sure of it.
Stop ignoring me, purple vip & badge of merit. Unless you can tell me why he wouldn't deserve it when other's have done way less and walk around with it.

Like flyingjesus (or he did have it the last time I knew). What was his job? he spent a month doing nothing but creating arguments on the forum. Like every other month.

It was probably hoteluser that removed his merit & VIP anyway, we all know the sheer hatred he had for Jamesy :rolleyes:?

Have you seriously come back to stick up for Jamesy who hasn't complained about his status at Habbox or even comes on the forum?

He may have had a Super Admin account but do you know what that actually means? I've been a Super Admin account for quite a while even when Jamesy was staff. To be honest, I am pretty sue he had the same access as me in terms of control panels and access. But that doesn't include anything server level. So it was never just "Jin and Jamesy".

Also just worked it out that HotelUser was staff longer in a "technical" role. Also don't accuse him as he hasn't touched his account at all.

Hell, he can have VIP for all I care but if he wants some he can come online and ask for it!

Casanova
06-05-2013, 05:21 PM
Cool story Matt, I'm always biased and it's clear I favour Jamesy.
Will you give him his VIP & Merit.

xxMATTGxx
06-05-2013, 05:22 PM
Cool story Matt, I'm always biased and it's clear I favour Jamesy.
Will you give him his VIP & Merit.

Might want to update your signature pal, seems to be full of Chris at this moment in time.

Inseriousity.
06-05-2013, 05:23 PM
He last visited over a year ago so it doesn't really matter that he doesn't have VIP seen as its only uses are for if you're active on the forum. I'm sure if he came back and said hey I worked really hard, can I have some VIP, mattg wouldn't say nah go away. jrh and mizki don't have VIP, for example. Seems a weird request.

Merit I can understand though.

Casanova
06-05-2013, 05:24 PM
Might want to update your signature pal, seems to be full of Chris at this moment in time.

what the **** you on about, what does this have to do with anything?
I asked something and you've still not answered me - he deserves it and he doesn't have it?

xxMATTGxx
06-05-2013, 05:25 PM
what the **** you on about, what does this have to do with anything?
I asked something and you've still not answered me - he deserves it and he doesn't have it?

He has Merit - He doesn't need VIP. If he came back on the forum and mentioned it sure we'll give him some VIP as to be honest we probably owe him some due to Anniversary and stuff.

Casanova
06-05-2013, 05:25 PM
is that better suited?

Martin
06-05-2013, 05:26 PM
is that better suited?

Much better thankyou :'(



I'm glad he's getting/got the merrit back as he deserves it, but see no need for the VIP at this moment in time really :P

Mr-Trainor
06-05-2013, 05:28 PM
I don't think anyone gets permanent VIP and I don't think he should either? He resigned ages ago so any VIP he did get would have expired; when I resigned from management I got 6 months VIP for being in management for 12 months. Other people with VIP may have just earned it/bought it.

Casanova
06-05-2013, 05:30 PM
mr trainor you were a crucial part to a team, he was more crucial to Habbox, as I grudgingly have to agree for someone like Hoteluser who openly abused his powers.

Adam
06-05-2013, 05:33 PM
Out of pure curiosity why does FG have merit?

xxMATTGxx
06-05-2013, 05:34 PM
Isn't it a bit late to have this sort of discussion about David?

Casanova
06-05-2013, 05:34 PM
arse licking.

MKR&*42
06-05-2013, 05:36 PM
Oml why do people start threads over people with/without Habbox Merits - it just leads to a massive argument over the entire system eventually.

I wasn't around when he was staff (was i...?) so I can't really comment that much, but I don't understand the reasoning for giving a long inactive user VIP unless they become active again?

Casanova
06-05-2013, 05:38 PM
Hayden if you want to ask that go start a thread about it, otherwise shut up.
I'm of the biased (maybe unclear & wrong) opinion he deserves it. It's my choice and opinion?

David
06-05-2013, 05:43 PM
hey I worked really hard, can I have some VIP

hey i worked really hard can i have some vip

Inseriousity.
06-05-2013, 05:44 PM
hey i worked really hard can i have some vip

nah go away

David
06-05-2013, 05:45 PM
nah go away

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Edited by Bolt660 (Acting Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly!

MKR&*42
06-05-2013, 06:02 PM
Hayden if you want to ask that go start a thread about it, otherwise shut up.
I'm of the biased (maybe unclear & wrong) opinion he deserves it. It's my choice and opinion?

My post added nothing constructive?... I questioned why an inactive member (who has been inactive for over a year) deserves to have VIP that won't be used.

God everybody who disagrees with you is not wrong, why don't you leave this forum again you cause nothing but a ****storm everytime you come back.

Casanova
06-05-2013, 06:04 PM
My post added nothing constructive?... I questioned why an inactive member (who has been inactive for over a year) deserves to have VIP that won't be used.

God everybody who disagrees with you is not wrong, why don't you leave this forum again you cause nothing but a ****storm everytime you come back.

Hardly, I popped on seen a dear friends account and was curious as to his recognition. It didn't, under my definition of "constructive" add anything when other members have already stated/asked what you have - where do you see the constructive?

How about you **** off and comment else where if you have an issue with my response? No one is asking your feedback? The issue has been addressed (as much as a member such as Matt is capable of) so there's nothing much else to add to this, considering I've already stated I disagree with the muted item you raised.

lawrawrrr
06-05-2013, 06:04 PM
eugh all managers before a certain time were told to post in a thread (if I remember correctly) to say how much VIP

if he wants VIP he can post for it, hardly ANYONE is going to see his posts any more so it's really not worth giving it to him. Neither was anyone ever given lifetime VIP, it will run out.

Merit, I agree with, I thought he was on the list, don't understand why he didn't ahve it but that seems to be sorted if I read this correctly?

xxMATTGxx
06-05-2013, 06:06 PM
eugh all managers before a certain time were told to post in a thread (if I remember correctly) to say how much VIP

if he wants VIP he can post for it, hardly ANYONE is going to see his posts any more so it's really not worth giving it to him. Neither was anyone ever given lifetime VIP, it will run out.

Merit, I agree with, I thought he was on the list, don't understand why he didn't ahve it but that seems to be sorted if I read this correctly?

Yeah merit has been sorted

MKR&*42
06-05-2013, 06:07 PM
Hardly, I popped on seen a dear friends account and was curious as to his recognition. It didn't, under my definition of "constructive" add anything when other members have already stated/asked what you have - where do you see the constructive?

How about you **** off and comment else where if you have an issue with my response? No one is asking your feedback? The issue has been addressed (as much as a member such as Matt is capable of) so there's nothing much else to add to this, considering I've already stated I disagree with the muted item you raised.

Bold = Oh sorry I didn't realise that "Habbox Feedback" isn't a place to discuss feedback, my bad guys :rolleyes:

Well tbh I don't find your post "arse licking" that constructive either but I don't -rep it like a sore little loser who gets mad when he doesn't have his own way?

Casanova
06-05-2013, 06:11 PM
My feedback was to management, I'm of the belief they decide whom get's merit solely at their choice, my bad guy's I must be wrong :rolleyes:?

Someone asked why FlyingJesus had/has merit and I answered why, he got in with a good crowd and they thought he deserved merit, the good ol' arselicking as it's known. If you don't like that post wait a few weeks and -rep me for that as well, hardly an issue?

The request I had has been responded to by those who are in the know, who would warrant the choices of Habbox. Nothing else to say on the matter, especially if someone else ​has already said it.

Adam
06-05-2013, 08:16 PM
I was assistant Events Manager for a very short time can I have merit?

Meanies
06-05-2013, 08:33 PM
i got declined my merit because i was fired as an agm :'( heartbroken

was jamesy the one with big massive fluffy ginger hair

Samantha
06-05-2013, 08:43 PM
Looking at the merit criteria '•Have worked for Habbox in a managerial role for 1 year (with no breaks) OR have contributed something outstanding to Habbox.' can I have it yet or not, 2 years in management and I resigned, now I am now a manager again yet still should have it, talking about those who resigned and came back i.e. Mike and Martin that got it, I'm not that fussed, but since the thread is there. Allan will agree yeye Casanova; :P.

I do agree with merit though so it's good it's been given back to him, I even remember him as staff, I've been here a little long.

Martin
06-05-2013, 08:47 PM
Looking at the merit criteria '•Have worked for Habbox in a managerial role for 1 year (with no breaks) OR have contributed something outstanding to Habbox.' can I have it yet or not, 2 years in management and I resigned, now I am now a manager again yet still should have it, talking about those who resigned and came back i.e. Mike and Martin that got it, I'm not that fussed, but since the thread is there. Allan will agree yeye @Casanova (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=34402); :P.

I do agree with merit though so it's good it's been given back to him, I even remember him as staff, I've been here a little long.


Were you in that management role for a complete year with no breaks? if so then yes you should have it according to that criteria :P Even though I have resigned and came back, I was originally news manager for over a year with no breaks and I think thats the reason why I got it, not because of my Assistant General Manager, forum manager/smod status etc.

Samantha
06-05-2013, 08:50 PM
Were you in that management role for a complete year with no breaks? if so then yes you should have it according to that criteria :P Even though I have resigned and came back, I was originally news manager for over a year with no breaks and I think thats the reason why I got it, not because of my Assistant General Manager, forum manager/smod status etc.

28/06/2011-31/01/2013 so yes, interlocked management there and was the assistant in Rare Values and news at the same time lmao. I did ask Matt, yet I got told no as apparently no one was getting it.

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Were you in that management role for a complete year with no breaks? if so then yes you should have it according to that criteria :P Even though I have resigned and came back, I was originally news manager for over a year with no breaks and I think thats the reason why I got it, not because of my Assistant General Manager, forum manager/smod status etc.

What I was saying is, I wasn't allowed it when my year came up as I hadn't resigned, when I resigned (like you did and you got it) I wasn't allowed it, when you returned you kept it, that's all I meant :P.

Martin
06-05-2013, 08:52 PM
28/06/2011-31/01/2013 so yes, interlocked management there and was the assistant in Rare Values and news at the same time lmao. I did ask Matt, yet I got told no as apparently no one was getting it.

I don't see why you would be told no if you were manager between those dates with no breaks :P but im sure he must have had his reasons haha.

Samantha
06-05-2013, 08:53 PM
I don't see why you would be told no if you were manager between those dates with no breaks :P but im sure he must have had his reasons haha.

The reason was merit was being looked at, so no one was getting it or being removed, even if Jamesy had it originally, if it was still being reviewed he would still not have it currently, hence I believed it has changed thus I should be entitled, although he does deserve it :P.

Martin
06-05-2013, 08:56 PM
The reason was merit was being looked at, so no one was getting it or being removed, even if Jamesy had it originally, if it was still being reviewed he would still not have it currently, hence I believed it has changed thus I should be entitled, although he does deserve it :P.

Well I think the current guidelines for it should have been stuck to until any actual changes had taken place, since it does state clearly in the thread what the current requirements are, and it doesnt look like theyve changed recently so idk :P Things get forgotten and stuff I guess. I'm sure if you ask matt now he'll stick ya in it irl :P

Samantha
06-05-2013, 08:59 PM
xxMATTGxx; thank you, read the last few posts :P.

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Aww, my usertitle is cute, thank you x.

wixard
06-05-2013, 09:09 PM
i love casanova

Inseriousity.
06-05-2013, 09:13 PM
Looking at the merit criteria '•Have worked for Habbox in a managerial role for 1 year (with no breaks) OR have contributed something outstanding to Habbox.' can I have it yet or not, 2 years in management and I resigned, now I am now a manager again yet still should have it, talking about those who resigned and came back i.e. Mike and Martin that got it, I'm not that fussed, but since the thread is there. Allan will agree yeye @Casanova (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=34402); :P.

I do agree with merit though so it's good it's been given back to him, I even remember him as staff, I've been here a little long.

Lol I don't even have it cos it got removed when I got agm. Not too fussed really, it's not like it's the most exciting part of the forum :P

FlyingJesus
06-05-2013, 09:26 PM
My feedback was to management, I'm of the belief they decide whom get's merit solely at their choice, my bad guy's I must be wrong :rolleyes:?

Someone asked why FlyingJesus had/has merit and I answered why, he got in with a good crowd and they thought he deserved merit, the good ol' arselicking as it's known. If you don't like that post wait a few weeks and -rep me for that as well, hardly an issue?

The request I had has been responded to by those who are in the know, who would warrant the choices of Habbox. Nothing else to say on the matter, especially if someone else ​has already said it.

It's true everyone knows that I totally worship the current management team and everything they've done, bffs with the lot of them

GommeInc
06-05-2013, 09:39 PM
Never heard of merit but Jamesy is probably worth it compared to others. Is merit one of these official Habbox things for people who are famous within a clique?

Casanova
06-05-2013, 09:45 PM
I think it's all agreed I should overhaul the merit system, all in favour say AYE.

Samantha
06-05-2013, 09:49 PM
Never heard of merit but Jamesy is probably worth it compared to others. Is merit one of these official Habbox things for people who are famous within a clique?

Not really I don't think, I believe it's on the FAQs what you need to become a merit though.

David
06-05-2013, 09:50 PM
Never heard of merit but Jamesy is probably worth it compared to others. Is merit one of these official Habbox things for people who are famous within a clique?


Not really I don't think, I believe it's on the FAQs what you need to become a merit though.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=677902&p=6875607#post6875607

Casanova
06-05-2013, 09:50 PM
Jamesy was the least cliquey member of management actually... he was a great believer in letting users decide - in fact many other managers at the time didn't like him.

GommeInc
06-05-2013, 10:06 PM
Seems a pointless group to me, like the one that all ex-GMs have. Respect is earned and all that jazz. Personally, I think quite a lot of the people who were fired probably deserve more merit for sticking up to their convictions, rather than people who, from what the FAQ suggests, brown nosed or gave up before the cold, dark hand of death/sackings got to them :P

Still seems a bit cliquey anyway.

EDIT:

Is there is a list of Merit users to browse? It doesn't seem to be an obvious to find list for a group of people who must be so amazing that they ought to be recognised.

Martin
06-05-2013, 10:11 PM
Jamesy was the least cliquey member of management actually... he was a great believer in letting users decide - in fact many other managers at the time didn't like him.

I loved James and I miss him greatly :( Working with him was one of my favourite experiences at Habbox :P He was always so passionate about things and so full of energy and positivity, and he was just a really nice down to earth guy and I miss talking to him :( and you are right, he gave the community a chance to help decide things, and trusted their opinions a lot. People don't realise how hard he worked behind the scenes too xD

David
06-05-2013, 10:20 PM
EDIT:

Is there is a list of Merit users to browse? It doesn't seem to be an obvious to find list for a group of people who must be so amazing that they ought to be recognised.

http://habboxwiki.com/Habbox_Merit#Current_Habbox_Merit_Holders

GommeInc
06-05-2013, 10:28 PM
http://habboxwiki.com/Habbox_Merit#Current_Habbox_Merit_Holders
Some people on there don't seem to deserve it under the criteria, but most of the others do. Still not sure why you need a merit page, seems like a lot of hassle for so little interest (until it's thrusted into limelight).

My God the wiki page for me is boring. Which poor sod found out all those post stats? They need merit.

wixard
06-05-2013, 10:40 PM
why are there so little people on that list? it can't be THAT hard to have a habbox 'job' for a year can it

Samantha
06-05-2013, 10:57 PM
Some people on there don't seem to deserve it under the criteria, but most of the others do. Still not sure why you need a merit page, seems like a lot of hassle for so little interest (until it's thrusted into limelight).

My God the wiki page for me is boring. Which poor sod found out all those post stats? They need merit.

Me, it isn't that hard as they're on your profile :P.

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why are there so little people on that list? it can't be THAT hard to have a habbox 'job' for a year can it

You need to be a manager though.

GommeInc
06-05-2013, 10:59 PM
Me, it isn't that hard as they're on your profile :P
But all that effort clicking away and formatting! Go have some merit anyway, they won't know ;)

AgnesIO
06-05-2013, 11:12 PM
It's true everyone knows that I totally worship the current management team and everything they've done, bffs with the lot of them

Not saying you can't have merit, but what exactly have you done for Hx? :L The HxWiki page pretty much says you were staff for a short while (but nothing significant), have a high post count (but nothing like the highest) and made some popular threads?

Genuine query, don't be offended - just you don't appear to have ever actually done anything even remotely out of your way to help Hx? :L

Samantha
06-05-2013, 11:17 PM
But all that effort clicking away and formatting! Go have some merit anyway, they won't know ;)

Lmao, I got merit a couple of hours ago, split screen came in handy, I didn't even copy and paste I just typed, fun, fun ;).

RyRy
06-05-2013, 11:30 PM
I was thinking after reading this thread, whether I could be any more pedantic than what Casanova is being... And then it clicked! Why haven't any managers from like 2005 and backwards have Habbox Merit?! Does DJ-3000 have merit, or what about Adzeh? Or A4AOwen? We need to look at the history of Habbox and make sure everybody is accounted for and given appropriate VIP!

And because some of you are silly, I was being extremely sarcastic.

HotelUser
06-05-2013, 11:32 PM
I check Habbox.com on the odd occasion and in the forum widget I happened to see a thread about Jamesy pop up. Perhaps against my better judgement I decided to hop on my account and make this reply.

First since it was brought up, I do think Jamesy did a lot for the forum and should be recognized for that. He was a great Forum Manager, extremely friendly and easy to talk to, and pushed out several different and lovely forum themes. There's a lot of old staff who I think should be recognized such as Hayley (Angel-Light), Leah, Nicole, Danube and Dan for RV, Rosie (Catzsy) and a lot more. I remember working with management and giving a few folks VIP for recognition when I was here. Matt, Myke and Milke are all approachable guys and I'm sure they're willing to listen to suggestions as to which former staff are worthy of recognition VIP. Every few years I also remember a loose review process wherein those who held merit were reviewed and the merit list was updated which typically took care of those with merit who were given it under sketchy circumstances. It could be an idea for management to look over the merit list again if there's active feedback regarding it.

Since it was also (rather rudely) brought up: Oli and Garion both contributed years and tremendous time and effort towards Habbox. Just because you don't personally like an individual doesn't mean you should ignore the good things that person did for Habbox. Infact, I think doing so is quite childish. Jake (Immenseman) and I rarely got along, however I wish him no ill-will and I think he should definitely be recognized with merit (it's also nice to see that he has a page on the wiki-- impressive!). I think it's also important to mention that it's difficult to start arguing as to who "deserves merit more", because I highly doubt there's any one person on the forum who knows every single contribution of every staff member past and present. Instead of pitching one merit individual against another it's probably better to just look at the list of *known* contributions that individual members have made to Habbox. The list in my opinion should not be a mere competition, it should be a way to remember the contributions and dedication of previous staff members to the fansite.


I loved James and I miss him greatly :( Working with him was one of my favourite experiences at Habbox :P He was always so passionate about things and so full of energy and positivity, and he was just a really nice down to earth guy and I miss talking to him :( and you are right, he gave the community a chance to help decide things, and trusted their opinions a lot. People don't realise how hard he worked behind the scenes too xD

People never do, and Jamesy did a lot of things for Habbox behind the scenes!

Kardan
06-05-2013, 11:37 PM
My personal opinion is that the requirements for Habbox Merit are flawed. I don't think holding a manager position for a year should grant Habbox Merit, but only people who made a huge impact on Habbox. I mean, I wouldn't consider someone who managed graphics for a year of someone of mass importance, but if someone was a super moderator for many years, I would recognize them.

The thing is though, it's too late to just change the definition of it now really, because half the people that have it will probably get upset if they lose it... Personally I think the best thing to do would be to retire the award, but hey :P

Mr-Trainor
07-05-2013, 04:24 PM
I was thinking after reading this thread, whether I could be any more pedantic than what Casanova is being... And then it clicked! Why haven't any managers from like 2005 and backwards have Habbox Merit?! Does DJ-3000 have merit, or what about Adzeh? Or A4AOwen? We need to look at the history of Habbox and make sure everybody is accounted for and given appropriate VIP!

And because some of you are silly, I was being extremely sarcastic.
I think because you have to request it, so if they don't come online any more then they won't have requested it :P.

I check Habbox.com on the odd occasion and in the forum widget I happened to see a thread about Jamesy pop up. Perhaps against my better judgement I decided to hop on my account and make this reply.

First since it was brought up, I do think Jamesy did a lot for the forum and should be recognized for that. He was a great Forum Manager, extremely friendly and easy to talk to, and pushed out several different and lovely forum themes. There's a lot of old staff who I think should be recognized such as Hayley (Angel-Light), Leah, Nicole, Danube and Dan for RV, Rosie (Catzsy) and a lot more. I remember working with management and giving a few folks VIP for recognition when I was here. Matt, Myke and Milke are all approachable guys and I'm sure they're willing to listen to suggestions as to which former staff are worthy of recognition VIP. Every few years I also remember a loose review process wherein those who held merit were reviewed and the merit list was updated which typically took care of those with merit who were given it under sketchy circumstances. It could be an idea for management to look over the merit list again if there's active feedback regarding it.

Since it was also (rather rudely) brought up: Oli and Garion both contributed years and tremendous time and effort towards Habbox. Just because you don't personally like an individual doesn't mean you should ignore the good things that person did for Habbox. Infact, I think doing so is quite childish. Jake (Immenseman) and I rarely got along, however I wish him no ill-will and I think he should definitely be recognized with merit (it's also nice to see that he has a page on the wiki-- impressive!). I think it's also important to mention that it's difficult to start arguing as to who "deserves merit more", because I highly doubt there's any one person on the forum who knows every single contribution of every staff member past and present. Instead of pitching one merit individual against another it's probably better to just look at the list of *known* contributions that individual members have made to Habbox. The list in my opinion should not be a mere competition, it should be a way to remember the contributions and dedication of previous staff members to the fansite.



People never do, and Jamesy did a lot of things for Habbox behind the scenes!
Both Danube and Undertake already have the award. Shame -Danube-; never comes on any more :'(. I agree with how people rarely recognise the amount of work people do behind the scenes, though.

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