Up & Coming market rises.

[AussieGambler]

Just a heads up to everybody, the following items are being strangled from the market place by myself,
due to me being unhappy with there current value, and will not be released back onto the market ever,

Club Sofas.
Blue Pillows.
Aloe Veras.



I'm slowly pulling all of them out of Furni shops , the MP, & Arcades. the ones I obtain will never be released back into the public.

Progress so far

http://i.imgur.com/X6mHC0C.png

incidentally if you want to sell either of these 3 items, let me know in game.

Thread moved by Nick (Forum Moderator): From 'Rare Values Suggestions' as it is better suited here.

[Aiden]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL You will never do it :D

[AussieGambler]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL You will never do it :D

remember this quote.

[Aiden]

remember this quote.

So you think you can get ever one? :|

[AussieGambler]

So you think you can get ever one? :|

not every single one, of the estimated 25k on the hotel only about 16k are probably active anymore due to bans and inactives. but if i can hold more than 20% of them. (3k) their price will spike by a fair bit :>

[Aiden]

not every single one, of the estimated 25k on the hotel only about 16k are probably active anymore due to bans and inactives. but if i can hold more than 20% of them. (3k) their price will spike by a fair bit :>

Thats possible but why lol? It's a waste of credits :s

[AussieGambler]

I'm not particularly worried about wasting credits :P

[sexpot]

You can do eeeeet!

[AussieGambler]

You can do eeeeet!

this is happening.



progress update

http://i.imgur.com/iXt6nzC.png

[-:Undertaker:-]

I can't see you moving the Club Sofa price but the others, maybe.

[AussieGambler]

I can't see you moving the Club Sofa price but the others, maybe.

I've got one heck of an update coming for you :)

ETA 40 minutes

[AussieGambler]

I now own 3,000 Club Sofas. 2000 of which everyone can see , 1000 of which are on a safety "just in case"
100 Aloes, and 100 Blue Giants


https://vimeo.com/65873898

[AussieGambler]

Onto room 5. :)


http://i.imgur.com/RL8DbDd.png

Trade Volumes.

http://i.imgur.com/NC2XIfD.png
http://i.imgur.com/zpdDEpD.png
http://i.imgur.com/ycRoScB.png

[Kardan]

You won't change the price of the club sofa, I would focus on the other two if I were you. I tried a similar thing with pink pillows when there was about 20 in total...

[AussieGambler]

You won't change the price of the club sofa, I would focus on the other two if I were you. I tried a similar thing with pink pillows when there was about 20 in total...

Aloes already are my main focus kardan, there's just not many of them circulating the hotel.

[MKR&*42]

Yeah, as others have said don't even try to change the price of the Club Sofa. There are far too many and it'd be far too difficult.

Gl with the others though.

[AussieGambler]

Yeah, as others have said don't even try to change the price of the Club Sofa. There are far too many and it'd be far too difficult.

Gl with the others though.

not as many now ;)

[AgnesIO]

No way in hell you'll achieve your aims with the club sofa.

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[AussieGambler]

I really appreciate all the negative attitude. it really spurs me on :) I'm at 6k Sofas now.

[Kardan]

I really appreciate all the negative attitude. it really spurs me on :) I'm at 6k Sofas now.

It's not a negative attitude really, it's just the truth. If you are already on 6k, you must have noticed you have vastly underestimated the number of sofas available.

You can easily assume that HCs are more common than thrones. Back in 2005/2006 there were around 52,000 thrones on just the UK hotel. Assuming that there are more HCs (since many more people would have bought hc once, than people around in 2002) and then considering that we have the combination of 5 hotels merged and how long hcs were available, you are easily looking at a few hundred thousand.

[AgnesIO]

I really appreciate all the negative attitude. it really spurs me on :) I'm at 6k Sofas now.

It is being realistic. You have vastly underestimated the number of club sofas on the hotel, I would say there are hundreds of thousands - think about it, you used to be able to win hundreds a day in bets, in its peak the number of club members that had them etc - your figures have absolutely no basis behind them whatsoever.

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[Daltron]

Yeah what a waste with the club sofas you will never shift movement with them, and even blue pillows is a bit laughable.
If you owned 5 giant rooms full of aloe veras then that would be another story

[Plebings]

well i for one welcome our new habbo overlord.

[sex]

you will probably make the aloe's rise. i think sukai had the biggest collection on the uk hotel, they are still in his casino.... i have like 1k hc sofas on a banned account from 08 so there is literally hundreds of thousands, if not 1 million plus atm probably
considering the hc was still main gift when habbo reached 250 million users there is diffidently more than a million

[Plebings]

also who even wants to use hc sofas anymore, the only reason they were desirable was for being used as a currency, no-one wants a bright green sofa in their room which doesn't match with any set furni range!

[Mr-Trainor]

I can't see you moving the Club Sofa price but the others, maybe.
Exactly what I thought. I think you'll do well with the Aloes, and possibly with the Blue Pillows (just might take a little longer) - but there is no way you'll get the Club Sofa to a significantly higher price any time soon tbh - there is just so many of them! Are you really never going to sell these on :O? And why didn't you choose other items instead of club sofas - like a certain laser portal, or dragon lamp. Items like that are much more desirable :P.

[Aiden]

also who even wants to use hc sofas anymore, the only reason they were desirable was for being used as a currency, no-one wants a bright green sofa in their room which doesn't match with any set furni range!

:S Leave my Habbox events room alone :((

and its going on quite well, you can donate some GBS to me and I will stock up on them too if you like :L

[Michael]

I have a few aloes, which i'm keeping.. so yes, raise that price :)

[Yawn]

cool gd luck i am rooting 4 u cos i have a fair few blue pillows and lots of sofas

http://gi127.photobucket.com/groups/p156/QVSPR97B7E/2h3vo85.gif

[Lewis]

well, get rid of hcs in mp and buy 6000 of your own for like 20c per. That would raise the average, and knowing people, considering it says its an average people will go by it.

but 6000 to buy of ur own is a lot of work!!

[Chippiewill]

Good luck with the club sofas, it'd be cool if they got back up to 13c or so again. You'll be hard pressed to get any significant percentage though, but you seem committed so maybe you'll manage.

I'll be interested to see if Sulake get upset about you gaming the market though.

[Mr-Trainor]

I'll be interested to see if Sulake get upset about you gaming the market though.
Why :P? People collect items all the time in an attempt to manipulate the price.

[Yawn]

u should form a club to help u

[sexpot]

he has. ^

[Yawn]

~BREAKING NEWS~

I REPEAT ~BREAKING NEWS~

MajesticMice has 15 blue pillows pls do something fast

[Absently]

i think it'd be great if the HCs even when up by a few credits. i'd love if the blue pillows went up a bit more too, always miss the days when they were quite high in price!

[sex]

i have cornered the marketing with dark water which was released in summer i now own 290 of them i will make huge profit $$$$

[Chippiewill]

Why :P? People collect items all the time in an attempt to manipulate the price.
It's damaging for the market as a whole. Sulake might just keep their head in the sand though.

[-:Undertaker:-]

The problem in the past with people manipulating the market has been that a) traders know there exist many in storage by one or more persons, therefore and unwilling to buy at higher prices at risk of them being released back into the market & b) the fact that often when people have collected a signifigant amount in the past, they've been hacked and released back into the rare values market.

Although that said, as there's so many of these rares - the two factors or risks above won't apply as much to these rares and you as say hoarding a super rare like the Dragon Egg would have done as buyers are taking much less of a risk when they buy. Alas, if Habbo would let me get my account back i'd have bought a few hundred Russian Samovars or the rather rare Aqua Fans and sat on them forever. :P Maybe one day.

[andoo89]

if you're going to do something like that. you need to do it in secret and hold for a long time.

to many blue pillows and club sofa floating around. u might make a dent in aloe veras.

best to focus on the less well known rares for bulk buying and hold.

[JerseySafety]

if you're going to do something like that. you need to do it in secret and hold for a long time.

to many blue pillows and club sofa floating around. u might make a dent in aloe veras.

best to focus on the less well known rares for bulk buying and hold.

this guy knows what hes on about. remember when we bought heaps of olive green pillars and they are still pretty high compared to what they were <3

good luck with it. aloes is the only one I would be bothered about.

[Liva]

Haha, this is an awesome idea.
Obtaining them all though.. that's gonna be difficult methinks.

[EarCandy]

It's gonna be a tough journey, my friend. But anyway do wish you luck in this 'experiment'. :)
I really don't wanna buy club sofas even if they are expensive or cheap. 'Cos I don't really like them anymore. :( And theres really a lot of it. It's beyond our imagination.

[dbgtz]

It'll fail because of the fact there are way more than you think and that you've told people about it. Though thanks for posting as I never knew of that graph before :L.

[Inseriousity.]

Selling my club sofas, 50c per :)

[Kardan]

On a note, it is possible with the rarer items, right before the merge I did a similiar thing with Green Parasols and managed to get them from about 4 HC to a Throne each... (Thrones might have been 40-60HC back then?).

[edible]

I have one or two aloe veras. How rare are they, does anyone know? There is 10 in marketplace at the moment so seemingly not that rare.

[Mr-Trainor]

I have one or two aloe veras. How rare are they, does anyone know? There is 10 in marketplace at the moment so seemingly not that rare.
I'd say they're one of the more common rares but wouldn't be able to estimate how many :P.

[Ahlux]

I like how a lot of people saying this will 'fail' or is impossible. He didn't say that he is going to raise the prices to what they were, he simply said he wanted to raise them. He is not the only person hoarding HC Sofas. I'm sure he understood how long it would take and how many coins it would cost.

Show a fellow Habbox user some love and wish him luck instead of telling how much of a failure the idea is.

I +1 the idea and hope you do pull it off. Goodluck man!

[Samantha]

On a note, it is possible with the rarer items, right before the merge I did a similiar thing with Green Parasols and managed to get them from about 4 HC to a Throne each... (Thrones might have been 40-60HC back then?).

That was you? LMAO, I remember that :P.

Good luck though!

[AgnesIO]

I like how a lot of people saying this will 'fail' or is impossible. He didn't say that he is going to raise the prices to what they were, he simply said he wanted to raise them. He is not the only person hoarding HC Sofas. I'm sure he understood how long it would take and how many coins it would cost.

Show a fellow Habbox user some love and wish him luck instead of telling how much of a failure the idea is.

I +1 the idea and hope you do pull it off. Goodluck man!

Well he guessed 25k, showing he has no idea how many there are.. :L

[Mr-Trainor]

I like how a lot of people saying this will 'fail' or is impossible. He didn't say that he is going to raise the prices to what they were, he simply said he wanted to raise them. He is not the only person hoarding HC Sofas. I'm sure he understood how long it would take and how many coins it would cost.

Show a fellow Habbox user some love and wish him luck instead of telling how much of a failure the idea is.

I +1 the idea and hope you do pull it off. Goodluck man!
All I'm doing is trying to bring some realism to the situation. I will say it again, the Club Sofa value is not going to go through a dramatic price change any time soon. However, I did say that he could do well with the Aloe Veras - although obviously this depends on his budget for this project (if you want to call it that). But yeah, I stand by my initial point that he would be better off spending his credits collecting an item which is already a little rare, and not the Club Sofa which is one of the most traded items with the current graph showing ~1000 of them traded each month through the mp alone.

[JerseySafety]

HC sofas and blue pillows is a complete waste of time. Aloes might work. Did this with gnellies before the merge on AU and it worked out really well.

[Kardan]

I'd say they're one of the more common rares but wouldn't be able to estimate how many :P.

On the UK hotel they were released way, way back in the day. So not only were there low sales, but the amount still left in circulation would be pretty low. In the US and Canada they weren't released into the catalogue, so the large majority probably come from AU and SG where they were released. How much they sold, I don't know, and I couldn't really guess. I don't know how populated those two hotels were... But personally, I'd say they're some of the rarest classic rares out there...

[Mr-Trainor]

On the UK hotel they were released way, way back in the day. So not only were there low sales, but the amount still left in circulation would be pretty low. In the US and Canada they weren't released into the catalogue, so the large majority probably come from AU and SG where they were released. How much they sold, I don't know, and I couldn't really guess. I don't know how populated those two hotels were... But personally, I'd say they're some of the rarest classic rares out there...
Hmm idk really. There always seems to be aloes in the marketplace and they're not usually too hard to find, although that will begin to change if AussieGambler continue to buy them all up. I can see what you mean though, classic rares like the nellies and parasols seem much more common than these.

[EarCandy]

Tbh, In SG Hotel, there aren't really many thrones as I see from the other hotels, but we do have quite some number of director chairs... and a lot a lot of monoliths, marquees, exceptionally loads of hcs, quite a lot of aloes, (icms we have little, so do fans, so they are kinda expensive in our hotel).

And the petal patches are quite abundant, with the snow patches, and not to mention our pillows... way too many esp blue pillows, i remembered they are given out for free or sold cheap for a certain campaign or so... i cant really remember.

---------- Post added 13-05-2013 at 12:30 PM ----------

But our furni tend to be more ex. as compared to the other hotels.

[AgnesIO]

Tbh, In SG Hotel, there aren't really many thrones as I see from the other hotels, but we do have quite some number of director chairs... and a lot a lot of monoliths, marquees, exceptionally loads of hcs, quite a lot of aloes, (icms we have little, so do fans, so they are kinda expensive in our hotel).

And the petal patches are quite abundant, with the snow patches, and not to mention our pillows... way too many esp blue pillows, i remembered they are given out for free or sold cheap for a certain campaign or so... i cant really remember.

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But our furni tend to be more ex. as compared to the other hotels.

Am I being stupid here, didn't SG merge two years ago with UK, USA, AU and CA?

[JACKTARD]

Why :P? People collect items all the time in an attempt to manipulate the price.


Most of the time it's you with those awful screens/spaceship doors/childline furni :P

[-:Undertaker:-]

I'd chip in actually on what I said previously concerning telling members of the public, sometimes this can have a positive effect in that a runaway in the value starts - we saw this in the earlier years with the Strobe Solarium and the Russian Samovar/Holopod - of course a runaway rise usually has a short life span but sometimes can keep the rare higher than it was originally, ie the Strobe Solarium virtually collapsed but I don't recall it ever settling back down to its original undervalued price.

It all depends on circumstances really.

[Mr-Trainor]

Most of the time it's you with those awful screens/spaceship doors/childline furni :P
Spaceship doors and childline sofas was successful :P. Although I have childline cakes & blue screens still. But at the moment I'm collecting something else ;).

[EarCandy]

yes that was before the merge lol

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Am I being stupid here, didn't SG merge two years ago with UK, USA, AU and CA?

Yes, im saying about sg hotel before the merge. before the merge... ;x

[edible]

currently no aloe veras in marketplace. but op hasn't been on habbo for a few days so not sure if it's related.

[Mr-Trainor]

currently no aloe veras in marketplace. but op hasn't been on habbo for a few days so not sure if it's related.
I checked earlier and there was 8 offers, and right now there's 3 although the cheapest offer is 49c. It could be that someone else is also making a collection :P?

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http://i44.tinypic.com/35m4lki.jpg

OP has 88 (I think (A)) Aloes atm.

[edible]

I checked earlier and there was 8 offers, and right now there's 3 although the cheapest offer is 49c. It could be that someone else is also making a collection :P?

---------- Post added 14-05-2013 at 03:47 PM ----------

http://i44.tinypic.com/35m4lki.jpg

OP has 88 (I think (A)) Aloes atm.

Yeah when I looked other day average was 22c and now it's 24c. Could be coincidence of course.

http://puu.sh/2TkRK/5c6eb3cc3d.png

[karter]

well, get rid of hcs in mp and buy 6000 of your own for like 20c per. That would raise the average, and knowing people, considering it says its an average people will go by it.

but 6000 to buy of ur own is a lot of work!!

you clearly dont know trade buddy, the people who know what the marketplace average is also know that it can be tampered with, also with a very minimal demand for the furni, only a moron will think of buying it.

anyways good luck with aloes, although still doubt that it would be worth the effort

[Mr-Trainor]

you clearly dont know trade buddy, the people who know what the marketplace average is also know that it can be tampered with, also with a very minimal demand for the furni, only a moron will think of buying it.

anyways good luck with aloes, although still doubt that it would be worth the effort
Actually, people do respond to marketplace 'manipulation'. Recent examples:
- Aqua Ice Cream Machine
- Orange Tree
- Jade Laser Portal

However, I do agree that it wouldn't really work on Club Sofas. If OP collected 1000 of them and they rose to 20c, as soon as he sells 50-100 of them, people could start reselling them and suddenly there's loads available again pushing the price down, and so he makes nothing on the other 900. Just a possibility :P.

[e5]

Club sofas will be hard to shift about, but i'd like to see their price rise to be honest. Aloes are hard to find at the moment anyway so you'll probably do well with those and i'd like to see blue pillows rise aswell. Good luck like.

[Kardan]

Yeah when I looked other day average was 22c and now it's 24c. Could be coincidence of course.

http://puu.sh/2TkRK/5c6eb3cc3d.png

Of course, there's no evidence that anyone other than himself has been buying above the average. But I would expect aloes to change, so it wouldn't surprise me if they've gone up by a small margin. If he sold them, he'd only make 88 credits profit due to the marketplace tax, so not worth it really, needs them to go up a ton more, hopefully they will :)

[e5]

Of course, there's no evidence that anyone other than himself has been buying above the average. But I would expect aloes to change, so it wouldn't surprise me if they've gone up by a small margin. If he sold them, he'd only make 88 credits profit due to the marketplace tax, so not worth it really, needs them to go up a ton more, hopefully they will :)

Yeah, was thinking that - wouldn't shock me if he put the price to 100 coins and bought them himself to raise the average haha

[Phil]

The price of the Aloe Vera in the market place is now 24c which is 4c under the average price and there's ten of them in there.

[JACKTARD]

Spaceship doors and childline sofas was successful :P. Although I have childline cakes & blue screens still. But at the moment I'm collecting something else ;).


ooh do tell ;)

[MissAlice]

What goes up must come down!

Has anyone enquired how many aloes are still in circulation?

I probably have 25-30 scattered on different accounts, and am not ready to part with them. I probably have a similar number of samovars and imagine there are a lot less samovars in circulation than there are club sofas.

It would be interesting to know the numbers.

[Zelda]

Would like to see how he's doing on the blue pillow and aloe counts now tbh!

lmao I definitely agree with karter about the hc sofas though, i'm sorry but even if you owned about 90% of hc sofas you will still barely manage anything because they are just so ugly and hideous and people don't really want them that much anymore anyway, and they are accustomed to them being worthless now

[Mr-Trainor]

Would like to see how he's doing on the blue pillow and aloe counts now tbh!

lmao I definitely agree with karter about the hc sofas though, i'm sorry but even if you owned about 90% of hc sofas you will still barely manage anything because they are just so ugly and hideous and people don't really want them that much anymore anyway, and they are accustomed to them being worthless now
http://www.habbo.com/room/62648217
That's his room with his aloes and pillows, which has been the same for a few days though as he hasn't logged in since 4 days ago :P.

Also, I noticed that the average value of the Aloe has been rigged up:
http://i40.tinypic.com/1kay9.jpg

[Zelda]

http://www.habbo.com/room/62648217
That's his room with his aloes and pillows, which has been the same for a few days though as he hasn't logged in since 4 days ago :P.

Also, I noticed that the average value of the Aloe has been rigged up:
http://i40.tinypic.com/1kay9.jpg

o ok not many aloes yet then lmao :P

tbh woulda made a lot more sence if he waited to rig them up cause he's just gonna lose that again lmao

[Mr-Trainor]

o ok not many aloes yet then lmao :P

tbh woulda made a lot more sence if he waited to rig them up cause he's just gonna lose that again lmao
I'm guessing it isn't him that rigged them though, as he hasn't been online :P.

[Zelda]

I'm guessing it isn't him that rigged them though, as he hasn't been online :P.

ah that's probably true LMAO, probs someone trying to raise it so they can make profit from him when he starts buying theirs LMFAO

[Kardan]

I'm guessing it isn't him that rigged them though, as he hasn't been online :P.

Clone account? :P Anyway, surely it takes 7 days of constant rigging for the average to go up that high?

[Mr-Trainor]

ah that's probably true LMAO, probs someone trying to raise it so they can make profit from him when he starts buying theirs LMFAO
LOL yea, I have 4 myself so I'm not complaining :P.

Clone account? :P Anyway, surely it takes 7 days of constant rigging for the average to go up that high?
Possibly :P. But the graph shows someone bought one at 70c (or at least that was the average trade value yesterday anyway), but the average only went up by 4c to 28c. It would take constant rigging if the person wanted an average of 70c and they were putting it in at 70c every day.

[Kardan]

LOL yea, I have 4 myself so I'm not complaining :P.

Possibly :P. But the graph shows someone bought one at 70c (or at least that was the average trade value yesterday anyway), but the average only went up by 4c to 28c. It would take constant rigging if the person wanted an average of 70c and they were putting it in at 70c every day.

It would only take 6 more days surely? Just put in 1 per day at 70 credits, and buy it back. All you have to rely on is other people not selling them on the marketplace.

[Mr-Trainor]

It would only take 6 more days surely? Just put in 1 per day at 70 credits, and buy it back. All you have to rely on is other people not selling them on the marketplace.
There still seems to be a lot of offers whenever I check, so it wouldn't be that easy unless you're buying them all :P.

[Zelda]

don't think there are actually that many offers though, if you wanted for 70c you could probably just do 1 a day at 99c or something or maybe 2 a day at that probably, considering there will definitely be a few days wher you won't get any anyway

[Kardan]

There still seems to be a lot of offers whenever I check, so it wouldn't be that easy unless you're buying them all :P.

But if you did buy them all the average would go down :P It's only possible if people remove their items or don't sell them :P

[Zelda]

But if you did buy them all the average would go down :P It's only possible if people remove their items or don't sell them :P

well you could just buy them all and then put your own ones in higher though and then buy them and just make sure the average is higher than what it was before ;o

[Kardan]

well you could just buy them all and then put your own ones in higher though and then buy them and just make sure the average is higher than what it was before ;o

That would raise the average, just not to your higher price of 70, it would be a tad lower :P Still would rise :)

[Zelda]

That would raise the average, just not to your higher price of 70, it would be a tad lower :P Still would rise :)

can just put it higher than 70 then to achieve that if you wanted :P

[Mr-Trainor]

But if you did buy them all the average would go down :P It's only possible if people remove their items or don't sell them :P
Buy 5 at 24c, then put your own in for 300c and buy it - the average for that day will be 70c - and the only way to tell that there wasn't just one sold for 70c is to look at the trade volumes :P.

[Kardan]

Buy 5 at 24c, then put your own in for 300c and buy it - the average for that day will be 70c - and the only way to tell that there wasn't just one sold for 70c is to look at the trade volumes :P.

To be fair, that method is better than being the only one to sell one, for 70c. Because seeing a trade volume of 10, at average 70c is better than a trade volume of 1 at 70c :)

[jorsian]

You can't possible buy out every HC sofa, blue pillow and aloe vera. Even targetting just one of those three rares wouldn't do much good. They are too common. I suggest hoarding limited or super rares because it's much easier to ascertain how many of each are in circulation.

[Mr-Trainor]

You can't possible buy out every HC sofa, blue pillow and aloe vera. Even targetting just one of those three rares wouldn't do much good. They are too common. I suggest hoarding limited or super rares because it's much easier to ascertain how many of each are in circulation.
Yeah, if I had that many credits I'd invest in something like choco ICMs, orange trees - something that's only around 100-200c but fairly rare.

[luke1078]

I'm continuing your work with an even better method :)

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