ltd values

[sex]

hi it would be great if rares started to value ltd because at the moment its a gap in the market where habbox could once attract more people to the site. i know it would actually involve rares staff doing some work rather than spending an hour a week looking at the marketplace values and copying and pasting it to their reports or whatever!!!
but if someone tried to value them, it would be great! because atm loads of people are lost in terms of value for their ltds
*waits for v7 excuse*

[karter]

AGREED. you guys should focus mainly on ltd and teleports as most people will only use habbox as an alternative since marketplace doesn't allow teleport and ltd trade

[Aiden]

coming in v7 or never is what i got told ages ago when i suggested it to management...

it would be harder to value due to numbers but yeah

[xxMATTGxx]

Due to the LTD Rares having numbers it means it requires changes to the RVR system which no one is going to do with the current state of Habbox.com.

[sex]

coming in v7 or never is what i got told ages ago when i suggested it to management...

it would be harder to value due to numbers but yeah

wow some actual work involved because different numbers, not really thought
say there are 1000 of one item
generally items 100-999 will be the same price, then the rest can be broken down into 70-100 50-60 or whatever. it doesn't involve putting a value on each number..

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Due to the LTD Rares having numbers it means it requires changes to the RVR system which no one is going to do with the current state of Habbox.com.

Can you just upload an image of it and call it for example "Black Dino #100-900" since more likely all them in that bracket will be the same value..

[xxMATTGxx]

wow some actual work involved because different numbers, not really thought
say there are 1000 of one item
generally items 100-999 will be the same price, then the rest can be broken down into 70-100 50-60 or whatever. it doesn't involve putting a value on each number..

How do you expect that to be shown on the system? Name the rare with a range of numbers?

Rare Name XX to XX = Value Price

XX = Being the numbers of the rare.

I am not an expert and have no idea how much these things even cost but if a big group of them are similar/same price then I guess that could work.
Samanfa; Mr-Trainor; and anyone else from that dept.

[sex]

How do you expect that to be shown on the system? Name the rare with a range of numbers?

Rare Name XX to XX = Value Price

XX = Being the numbers of the rare.

Yeah like that since there is no point in valuing 1000 items each by number when the majority of them will be the same value lol

[Yawn]

Rare Name XX to XX = Value Price

XX = Being the numbers of the rare.yes :S

if this is not an issue pls tell me this isnt the reason its taken so long to do LTD rare values

[Mark]

Why does habbox still have rare values? What was the outcome to that questionnaire thing done a while back?

[xxMATTGxx]

Why does habbox still have rare values? What was the outcome to that questionnaire thing done a while back?

The point behind the survey was to see if the department still had a point. If the results show it didn't - It would have been closed down by General Management. But surprisingly it didn't return back negative as we first thought. Which is why the department is still here at this present time.

[sex]

Also another thing is that maybe they should be more prominent along with teleports as that what the majority only check the site for.

[Mr-Trainor]

Right. Firstly, the rare values department is by no means a copy or replica of the marketplace averages. If you really think that then you clearly do not use Habbox Values and probably don't trade much. Just an example to prove my point, yesterday I was in a shop where the owner was buying rares and I told him I wanted 50c for my Teal Oriental Screen. He then said 'give me a min' and then once he replied he whispered to me 'I know they're not really worth 50c, I checked Habbox and they say 20c so I don't want it' and I said fair enough and left. I thought that was a nice example to show that Habbox values still has a purpose, is still used, and is no a copy of the marketplace in any way.

As for LTDs, yeah I don't know why it's not done but when I asked I was told to wait for v7 and so that's what I've done. I'm not sure what the plans were, but Pigperson; seemed to know what the plan was and why it wasn't possible with the current RV system. Anyway I did have a more recent conversation about this and I see it as there being two ways of implementing LTDs.

We value each separate number but then give an average price for all numbers, an average price for the top 10, and an average price for numbers 10-100 - only using values submitted within the last 2-4 weeks (undecided). However, the only problem with this is that you'd be valuing each number and with LTDs that have 1000 existing, that could be a bit impractical.
The second way, is to just value the sets of numbers instead. So like, you have a value for number 1, a separate value for numbers 2-10 and then a general value for all numbers. This would definitely be a more efficient and practical way of doing it and it would be much easier to find and report values. But yeah, as mentioned, I don't see why this can't be done with the current system.. but I was told to wait for v7.


As for the rare values department, only 25% of people in that survey said that they don't use Habbox Rare Values, meaning three quarters of people (Habbox Users) do, and the majority of people that do use them said that they use them on a regular basis. With those positive results, which to be honest I wouldn't have expected to have been so good, I can't see any reason for the department to close down any time soon. Clearly lots of people are still using the values we provide and removing them would have far more negatives than positives. However, in order to keep this up the values system needs to be updated asap. As I said in an earlier thread, coding requests for fundamental aspects of the system which were requested by myself and -Danube-; over two years ago (before v6 release) have still not been done, and ever since the release of RV v3 (Habbox v6) it just seemed as though the department has been neglected and on multiple occasions it was promised the requests would be done soon, but we're still waiting and Dan doesn't even come on anymore. I guess we just have to wait for v7 now!

[-:Undertaker:-]

This numbers thing I keep hearing about is ridiculous - you can't base values on numbered rares because trades will take place so rarely and it'll be open to people fixing the values (ie as with what often nearly happened with super rares years ago where traders would attempt to trick me/the department into believing a trade had taken place). In the old days we had the same probem with this regarding HABBO Trophys and we simply took the average of what those rares were going for.

Enough of this silly nit picking, obviously number 1 will go for more just as better written HABBO trophys went for more - and the ones with the worse numbers or descriptions will go for less; just take the average and use your heads rather than fiddling around with new systems/values for every individual rare. :P

[sex]

Right. Firstly, the rare values department is by no means a copy or replica of the marketplace averages. If you really think that then you clearly do not use Habbox Values and probably don't trade much. Just an example to prove my point, yesterday I was in a shop where the owner was buying rares and I told him I wanted 50c for my Teal Oriental Screen. He then said 'give me a min' and then once he replied he whispered to me 'I know they're not really worth 50c, I checked Habbox and they say 20c so I don't want it' and I said fair enough and left. I thought that was a nice example to show that Habbox values still has a purpose, is still used, and is no a copy of the marketplace in any way.

As for LTDs, yeah I don't know why it's not done but when I asked I was told to wait for v7 and so that's what I've done. I'm not sure what the plans were, but Pigperson; seemed to know what the plan was and why it wasn't possible with the current RV system. Anyway I did have a more recent conversation about this and I see it as there being two ways of implementing LTDs.

We value each separate number but then give an average price for all numbers, an average price for the top 10, and an average price for numbers 10-100 - only using values submitted within the last 2-4 weeks (undecided). However, the only problem with this is that you'd be valuing each number and with LTDs that have 1000 existing, that could be a bit impractical.
The second way, is to just value the sets of numbers instead. So like, you have a value for number 1, a separate value for numbers 2-10 and then a general value for all numbers. This would definitely be a more efficient and practical way of doing it and it would be much easier to find and report values. But yeah, as mentioned, I don't see why this can't be done with the current system.. but I was told to wait for v7.


As for the rare values department, only 25% of people in that survey said that they don't use Habbox Rare Values, meaning three quarters of people (Habbox Users) do, and the majority of people that do use them said that they use them on a regular basis. With those positive results, which to be honest I wouldn't have expected to have been so good, I can't see any reason for the department to close down any time soon. Clearly lots of people are still using the values we provide and removing them would have far more negatives than positives. However, in order to keep this up the values system needs to be updated asap. As I said in an earlier thread, coding requests for fundamental aspects of the system which were requested by myself and -Danube-; over two years ago (before v6 release) have still not been done, and ever since the release of RV v3 (Habbox v6) it just seemed as though the department has been neglected and on multiple occasions it was promised the requests would be done soon, but we're still waiting and Dan doesn't even come on anymore. I guess we just have to wait for v7 now!


I think i trade way more than you or any of your staff considering i spend half my time on habbo in shops and the other half on zombies lol. You where the one after all trying to sell traxs for 50c? :S. Anyways enough of your sly digs, you have been clearly missing from habbox rare department for the last while and only recently came back. It was no secret that the majority of staff copy their values from the marketplace (of course there are some exceptions who actually go around shops), and before you say i'm lying multiple staff had no problem admitting this before in HxHD a few months ago because they said its easier to get a clearer value... whats the point in copying something from the client where is easier to access and putting it on Habbox where there is no way the majority of people are going to go out of their way to look at.

I'd love to see the results of the poll and the fact that it was anonymous makes me wonder how many replies and how many where rare values staff not looking to lose their job, or old users not wanting the department to go despite never using it. What would have been more effective is a secret poll on the rare values page that no one was informed about so that way only actual users would have seen. The fact the management even did a poll makes me wonder do they have the same thoughts as everyone else lol...

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This numbers thing I keep hearing about is ridiculous - you can't base values on numbered rares because trades will take place so rarely and it'll be open to people fixing the values (ie as with what often nearly happened with super rares years ago where traders would attempt to trick me/the department into believing a trade had taken place). In the old days we had the same probem with this regarding HABBO Trophys and we simply took the average of what those rares were going for.

Enough of this silly nit picking, obviously number 1 will go for more just as better written HABBO trophys went for more - and the ones with the worse numbers or descriptions will go for less; just take the average and use your heads rather than fiddling around with new systems/values for every individual rare. :P

The thing is, thats not how it works. The lower the number the better the value lol, most casino owners want to own a rare number and are willing to pay more, along with numbers such as 100, 200, 300 etc. We aren't talking about a few credits here and there... the difference between number 1 pink dragon and number 2 pink dragon in terms of value was 40 thrones or something... You can't just place an average on them.. and the difference between say number 10 and 20 could easily be 100credits.. :S

[Mr-Trainor]

I think i trade way more than you or any of your staff considering i spend half my time on habbo in shops and the other half on zombies lol. You where the one after all trying to sell traxs for 50c? :S. Anyways enough of your sly digs, you have been clearly missing from habbox rare department for the last while and only recently came back. It was no secret that the majority of staff copy their values from the marketplace (of course there are some exceptions who actually go around shops), and before you say i'm lying multiple staff had no problem admitting this before in HxHD a few months ago because they said its easier to get a clearer value... whats the point in copying something from the client where is easier to access and putting it on Habbox where there is no way the majority of people are going to go out of their way to look at.

I'd love to see the results of the poll and the fact that it was anonymous makes me wonder how many replies and how many where rare values staff not looking to lose their job, or old users not wanting the department to go despite never using it. What would have been more effective is a secret poll on the rare values page that no one was informed about so that way only actual users would have seen. The fact the management even did a poll makes me wonder do they have the same thoughts as everyone else lol...
With permission from xxMATTGxx; I can post the survey results here (pie chart). But there was over 100 people who responded. As for the HxHD comment, I've not heard about this. And I don't know why you're trying to make me sound stupid for trying to sell trax's for 50c, when I was actually successful in doing so :P?


http://i44.tinypic.com/30hy6n8.jpg

[sex]

With permission from xxMATTGxx; I can post the survey results here (pie chart). But there was over 100 people who responded. As for the HxHD comment, I've not heard about this. And I don't know why you're trying to make me sound stupid for trying to sell trax's for 50c, when I was actually successful in doing so :P?


http://i44.tinypic.com/30hy6n8.jpg

Says more about the person buying them i guess lol :P

[-:Undertaker:-]

The thing is, thats not how it works. The lower the number the better the value lol, most casino owners want to own a rare number and are willing to pay more, along with numbers such as 100, 200, 300 etc. We aren't talking about a few credits here and there... the difference between number 1 pink dragon and number 2 pink dragon in terms of value was 40 thrones or something... You can't just place an average on them.. and the difference between say number 10 and 20 could easily be 100credits..

The same applied to the HABBO trophys - from badly written ones to the blank ones, in the later years the difference in value between each rare was rather large - yet we still took the average. We did however value the blank ones seperately, which is what could be done with maybe the number ones and twos and a few others; but on the whole, ie 10 to 800 it should be done via averages if possible.

Now that would make the values uncertain, granted. But the values with these rares are uncertain regardless as it entirely depends what somebody is willing to pay when it comes to unique super rares - the Army Plasto was a historic example which often jumped from 15 CS to 2T regularly - its value very much being determined on whether somebody was specifically looking for one.

If Habbox value each number seperately, the chances of the price being fixed are much higher (as it was in the old days with ultra super rares) along with the fact that you'd have seperate values for no. 706 and 798 - and one may not be traded for three years while the other is being passed around often, and you'll end up with totally distorted values whereas if you took the average you'd have a better valuation for each rare.

Maybe the ideal thing to do would be something along lines of..

100-200 - 1T
200 - 400 - 2T
Etc.

[sex]

The same applied to the HABBO trophys - from badly written ones to the blank ones, in the later years the difference in value between each rare was rather large - yet we still took the average. We did however value the blank ones seperately, which is what could be done with maybe the number ones and twos and a few others; but on the whole, ie 10 to 800 it should be done via averages if possible.

Now that would make the values uncertain, granted. But the values with these rares are uncertain regardless as it entirely depends what somebody is willing to pay when it comes to unique super rares - the Army Plasto was a historic example which often jumped from 15 CS to 2T regularly - its value very much being determined on whether somebody was specifically looking for one.

Yeah thats what we were saying already though, you can easily tell the value of items 100-1000 as they will all have the same value as theres no way you're going to get 1000 people telling you the same lie saying they want such and such lol. No one is saying value each one individually, we just want them valued in the first place.

[Mr-Trainor]

The same applied to the HABBO trophys - from badly written ones to the blank ones, in the later years the difference in value between each rare was rather large - yet we still took the average. We did however value the blank ones seperately, which is what could be done with maybe the number ones and twos and a few others; but on the whole, ie 10 to 800 it should be done via averages if possible.
Yeah that's what I've suggested :P. A value for number 1, average value for numbers 2-10 and then an average value for the rest. As for items not being traded and therefore making values inaccurate, that already happens with super rares on Habbox. Look at the pink oriental screen; Habbox value of 999c but Nat has been trying to sell hers in the mp for a while now and yesterday I'm assuming it was hers that was at 707c. And the pink laser portal doesn't even have a value on Habbox :P.

[xxMATTGxx]

With permission from xxMATTGxx; I can post the survey results here (pie chart). But there was over 100 people who responded. As for the HxHD comment, I've not heard about this. And I don't know why you're trying to make me sound stupid for trying to sell trax's for 50c, when I was actually successful in doing so :P?


http://i44.tinypic.com/30hy6n8.jpg

Feel free to post it.

[Mr-Trainor]

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[Samantha]

I haven't really read all the thread, but if we wanted the most simple way to show LTD rares we could put varies from x to y, y being something like #1 and x being say #754.

However, an alternative could also be numbers between a and b sell for x and y.

I really don't know how to sort them out really, but the two above would have to wait for v7. We can't add so many images of the same rares either, but if you have an alternative suggestion I would love to know them. As opposed to just having different values for say 1-10 as there are other numbers that are worth more, e.g. 69, 1000 perhaps etc.

[sex]

I haven't really read all the thread, but if we wanted the most simple way to show LTD rares we could put varies from x to y, y being something like #1 and x being say #754.

However, an alternative could also be numbers between a and b sell for x and y.

I really don't know how to sort them out really, but the two above would have to wait for v7. We can't add so many images of the same rares either, but if you have an alternative suggestion I would love to know them. As opposed to just having different values for say 1-10 as there are other numbers that are worth more, e.g. 69, 1000 perhaps etc.


i posted the alternative and no one said naming them "Black Dino 100-1000 - 7GB" would have to wait till v7???????
doesn't seem like a problem to me since you can name the furni what ever you want.. so yoou could include the numbers

[Mr-Trainor]

I haven't really read all the thread, but if we wanted the most simple way to show LTD rares we could put varies from x to y, y being something like #1 and x being say #754.

However, an alternative could also be numbers between a and b sell for x and y.

I really don't know how to sort them out really, but the two above would have to wait for v7. We can't add so many images of the same rares either, but if you have an alternative suggestion I would love to know them. As opposed to just having different values for say 1-10 as there are other numbers that are worth more, e.g. 69, 1000 perhaps etc.
You can get around that by having different image URLs, and actually you can even add the numbers on to the image. And for the image URLs just add the numbers to the end to make it unique so that they don't overwrite:
- ltd_dragonegg1-1_center.png
- ltd_dragonegg210-1_center.png
- ltd_dragonegg11plus-1_center.png

And yeah, numbers can just be added to the item name/motto as well.

[Samantha]

i posted the alternative and no one said naming them "Black Dino 100-1000 - 7GB" would have to wait till v7???????
doesn't seem like a problem to me since you can name the furni what ever you want.. so yoou could include the numbers

I never said it did either, the ideas I suggested would have to wait until v7 and I don't think compiling them would work as there are some numbers wanted more than others.

[Mr-Trainor]

I never said it did either, the ideas I suggested would have to wait until v7 and I don't think compiling them would work as there are some numbers wanted more than others.
Which is the same as some trophy inscriptions being wanted more than others :P, as -:Undertaker:-; said.

[CaptainAce]

I don't use the market place to get the values that I get for the site. I go around shops. Although at times, my values are rejected sometimes because they are not in line with market place value nor seen traded around the hotel often. It's a shame because every value I get is what i've seen being traded lol. But there you go.

[e5]

Very dismissive :/
Due to the LTD Rares having numbers it means it requires changes to the RVR system which no one is going to do with the current state of Habbox.com.

[Samantha]

I don't use the market place to get the values that I get for the site. I go around shops. Although at times, my values are rejected sometimes because they are not in line with market place value nor seen traded around the hotel often. It's a shame because every value I get is what i've seen being traded lol. But there you go.

That's not true though, if they're not in line with the MarketPlace, but they're still a plausible value then I will approve them. However, if I also know what they're being sold for and I find the current value to be correct then that's probably why some are denied. Don't worry, I got annoyed many times beforehand as I noticed my accurate values being denied due to them not being in the MarketPlace; oh and those that aren't traded often will always be looked at so more probably will be approved :P.

Sometimes it's better to compare with the MarketPlace, just seeing the difference, but not using the solid values from it.

[xxMATTGxx]

Very dismissive :/

Did you want me to post a lie or be honest about it? But read the rest of the thread in regards of LTD Value suggestions without coding changes :P

[e5]

Yeah I read it all, just your post was sharp and short, would have been nicer with an explantion from you or to try consider it as I think it would bring life back to the values haha

Did you want me to post a lie or be honest about it? But read the rest of the thread in regards of LTD Value suggestions without coding changes :P

[xxMATTGxx]

Yeah I read it all, just your post was sharp and short, would have been nicer with an explantion from you or to try consider it as I think it would bring life back to the values haha

I was only aware of one suggestion and do it that way woul require the coding changes. Not that it shouldn't be looked into. But hey ho :P

[GoldenMerc]

Don't think its worth editing, RV in terms of Habbox is no longer as big as it used to be. yes there is a niche in the market, but v7 has taken so long any chance of getting that small bit in the habbo scene is gone

[Mr-Trainor]

Don't think its worth editing, RV in terms of Habbox is no longer as big as it used to be. yes there is a niche in the market, but v7 has taken so long any chance of getting that small bit in the habbo scene is gone
I see what you mean, LTDs came out last year and I can't believe there is nothing about them at all on Habbox, and why people were told to wait for v7 is beyond me :P. It can be done easily without coding changes, and hopefully it'll be implemented soon Samanfa;. I guess once a new LTD is released, if the rare values department can keep up to date with that new LTD and keep the value accurate, while the hype and demand for that LTD is high (ok, unless it's a crap LTD..) then it could create some more demand for Habbox Values - should definitely be some promotion of LTD values too, there's definitely a demand for it.

[Chippiewill]

On the topic of coding changes. What exactly would those entail if people wanted them?

[Mr-Trainor]

On the topic of coding changes. What exactly would those entail if people wanted them?
Something to do with having multiple values for one item, I think?

[-Danube-]

I haven't been around for ages so i'm completely out of the whole Rare Trading thing but i've had alot to do with this department so I thought i'd post :)

From what I gather from reading above, Habbo have released some limited edition rares which are numbered 1-1000 depending on when they were purchased?

Tbh I think this could have been a great opportunity for Habbox Rare Values. I always said when i was RVM that we needed something which we could use that would rival the Habbo Marketplace. I turned the values into more of a resource to broaden what we offered on the site that the Marketplace simple couldn't offer but this came very very very late as it again had to wait for the large update of V6.

It seems that Rare values has been given a great opportunity to give it back some of it's credability as actually being something useful but again sadly it's being held back by having to wait for the release of V7.

I know it takes time to build these things. I dabbled in coding for a while whilst at Habbox and i've also done a few projects since and I know that development does take time. But I think sometimes you need to find ways in which you can manipulate the system you currently have. Time is of the essence with this one.

The suggestions are great and i'm not sure if they have been implemented yet but i think you need to take a seriously look at starting to add them to the site this week.

As was said above rares numbered 1000-100 may all have a very similar value so just add 1 Value for this whole group. Then maybe another value for 100-10 and then for the final 10 add in specific values.

I may have completely got the wrong end of the stick with this as i'm unsure what these LTD rares actually are but I think it's definately something which could give Rare Values a bit more meaning.

[Samantha]

I see what you mean, LTDs came out last year and I can't believe there is nothing about them at all on Habbox, and why people were told to wait for v7 is beyond me :P. It can be done easily without coding changes, and hopefully it'll be implemented soon Samanfa;. I guess once a new LTD is released, if the rare values department can keep up to date with that new LTD and keep the value accurate, while the hype and demand for that LTD is high (ok, unless it's a crap LTD..) then it could create some more demand for Habbox Values - should definitely be some promotion of LTD values too, there's definitely a demand for it.

A demand yes, but I honestly don't know how to sort them on the site. I didn't have much information when I got the manager role again and it's just a piss take waiting for v7 as we're still waiting for coding quests that we requested when HotelUser; was AGM and before, I think the earliest are 2009 when you and -Danube-; managed. It seems no one knows how to code David's system, but some of the things we want/need are so minimal I could probably do it after breaking it a few times :P.

I think it might be best to say, run some polls, see which numbers are more worthy - get the LTD values for more worth while ones like the Cherry Tree, Black Dino Egg etc. before the rest that way those most traded are sorted then work out those we're unsure on. Then have a range for the not so needed numbers.

[-Danube-]

I know how the current back-end panel of the rare values works, after all i did design it with David who coded it.

It is possible to add these limted edition rares now.

You just need to make a new category called LTD rares. Then add a new rare called 'Cherry Tree #1000-#100' and give it a value. The image could then just be of the item bit with the number 1000-100 written over it. The graphics department or yourself could do this easily.

I don;t think you need to run any polls for the numbers, as a rare values department you all should be able to sit down and work this out. Maybe call a meeting and sort it out that way and bounce ideas off each other. But i think you really need to do this now, as in this week. And then get some promotion going on it, get a news article written on it about how it works and why its useful, maybe run a competition some how based around it. Get it known around the hotel as it's all well and good doing it but you need to make sure people know it's there and can use it.

[Mr-Trainor]

-Danube-; some are 1-1000, some are 1-200 and yeah, there's quite a lot of LTDs now and many different quantities, with the lowest being 80 and the highest being 2000. I guess the value ranges depends on the quantity of that item, e.g. For a 1000 quantity there could be a value for 1-10, 11-100, 111-1000 and for 1-80 there could be 1-10, 11-80 etc. Also, you'll be pleased to know that our coding requests from all those years ago are still waiting :P.

The only problem with valuing different numbers of LTDs, though, is that it then brings up the question of why aren't there separate values for better trophy inscriptions, or better badges in badge display cases? Well, because it's just more common sense than anything. Could the same be said for LTD numbers, and just have an overall price for LTDs? What would happen in a few years time if the number 1-10 pink dragons are never traded and no where to be seen, not to mention hard to keep track of. Maybe 1 overall value for each LTD would be the best option when thinking long term?
Samanfa; even David himself on many occasions said he was going to dedicate a certain day or weekend to going through mine and -Danube-; 's coding requests but they still never happened and a list of what I remember being 20-30 requests have never been done, plus many ideas that -Danube-; had that could have had huge benefits to Rare Values were never implemented. I did come up with an idea myself yesterday, but if I shared it it would probably never be done even if it was liked anyway :P!

---------- Post added 17-05-2013 at 11:58 PM ----------


I know how the current back-end panel of the rare values works, after all i did design it with David who coded it.

It is possible to add these limted edition rares now.

You just need to make a new category called LTD rares. Then add a new rare called 'Cherry Tree #1000-#100' and give it a value. The image could then just be of the item bit with the number 1000-100 written over it. The graphics department or yourself could do this easily.

I don;t think you need to run any polls for the numbers, as a rare values department you all should be able to sit down and work this out. Maybe call a meeting and sort it out that way and bounce ideas off each other. But i think you really need to do this now, as in this week. And then get some promotion going on it, get a news article written on it about how it works and why its useful, maybe run a competition some how based around it. Get it known around the hotel as it's all well and good doing it but you need to make sure people know it's there and can use it.
Yeah that's basically what this thread has concluded. There's no need for any changes at all in terms of the coding of the system.

[-Danube-]

It was rather frustrating that i came up with so many good and innovative ideas and they never got put into plan, but i suppose thats what you get when we do this for free.... I thought up ideas like having our own free Habbox Marketplace for people to sell their rares on the site.... that never happened And i kknow there were loads of tiny little ones which allowed more interaction for the users.

And Luke i think you summed it up well there, it's all about common sense, you don;t need to add values for each trophy inscription as that would just be silly. But for these LTD rares, each different number of these rares is basically a different item in it's own right and therefore it needs some kind of value.

Think maybe we need to spend less time procrastinating and more time doing. Have a mess around with the panel and try get a few values on in the next few days and see what the response is. Maybe open a thread in the rrading sections for people to post screenshots of trades they have done of their LTD rares. (be aware of faking though) and then use your common sense to come up with a value.

[Samantha]

It was rather frustrating that i came up with so many good and innovative ideas and they never got put into plan, but i suppose thats what you get when we do this for free.... I thought up ideas like having our own free Habbox Marketplace for people to sell their rares on the site.... that never happened And i kknow there were loads of tiny little ones which allowed more interaction for the users.

And Luke i think you summed it up well there, it's all about common sense, you don;t need to add values for each trophy inscription as that would just be silly. But for these LTD rares, each different number of these rares is basically a different item in it's own right and therefore it needs some kind of value.

Think maybe we need to spend less time procrastinating and more time doing. Have a mess around with the panel and try get a few values on in the next few days and see what the response is. Maybe open a thread in the rrading sections for people to post screenshots of trades they have done of their LTD rares. (be aware of faking though) and then use your common sense to come up with a value.

That's all fine Dan, but what happens with this LTD category, are we expected to have 1000 different furni for 1 item or just 1 or 2?

[Mr-Trainor]

It was rather frustrating that i came up with so many good and innovative ideas and they never got put into plan, but i suppose thats what you get when we do this for free.... I thought up ideas like having our own free Habbox Marketplace for people to sell their rares on the site.... that never happened And i kknow there were loads of tiny little ones which allowed more interaction for the users.

And Luke i think you summed it up well there, it's all about common sense, you don;t need to add values for each trophy inscription as that would just be silly. But for these LTD rares, each different number of these rares is basically a different item in it's own right and therefore it needs some kind of value.

Think maybe we need to spend less time procrastinating and more time doing. Have a mess around with the panel and try get a few values on in the next few days and see what the response is. Maybe open a thread in the rrading sections for people to post screenshots of trades they have done of their LTD rares. (be aware of faking though) and then use your common sense to come up with a value.
Yeah, and I still have your PM about the whole market idea, like the stock exchange thing. Shame nothing like that was ever done. We only recently got the apostrophe bug fixed, which was thanks to Chippiewill; though :). I don't think David comes on anymore. As for LTDs, I've resigned from Habbox RV now but I'll play around with different ways on my own site tomorrow and then post here :P.

---------- Post added 18-05-2013 at 12:12 AM ----------


That's all fine Dan, but what happens with this LTD category, are we expected to have 1000 different furni for 1 item or just 1 or 2?
No, not 1000. I think this was the reason why coding requests were needed, to have 1000 copies of an item with different values. There is absolutely no need for 1000 different values when the majority of them will be considered to be the same item. For example, would you pay more for #371 or #653? Probably not. They can be grouped together just fine and it'd be far more efficient :).

[-Danube-]

Just what luke said. The very vast majority of the LTD rares will have a very similar/same value so you just need to give a rough estimate on what you would expect to sell a rare number 1000 to 100. Then maybe another value for all the ones numbered 99-50 and so on.

Basically as a RV department you need to sit down and work out the ranges of the numbers, when it gets to a certain number when someone is more likely to pay more for it.

In the ranges of say 1000-100 you should put something in the description of the rare value that says something like "Please note that these LTDs have been grouped into one value as their LTD number gives them a similar value, but there maybe some small variation in value from higher to lower numbers"

[Mr-Trainor]

Just to add to Dans post above, just choose a range and trial it. You can always change the ranges for certain items if it becomes clear that the current ranges aren't working out quite right :).

[sex]

is this being implemented samanfa or have you just completely forgot/no bothered lol
around two weeks to even try implement one ltd and trial it but i SEE NOTHING

also can someone link the poll again please i wanna see the results/who voted lol

[Samantha]

is this being implemented samanfa or have you just completely forgot/no bothered lol
around two weeks to even try implement one ltd and trial it but i SEE NOTHING

also can someone link the poll again please i wanna see the results/who voted lol

I've no idea what's happening, I have no problem with attempting to value them on the site, but again I still don't know how to sort them; there are also questions on whether to just have them in one category, but then the ranges are questioned.

I believe Mr-Trainor; was going to test something, I could be wrong, I haven't forgotten about it don't worry, I haven't had as much time this week due to my other departments requiring more time in some cases as well and personal reasons.

It might just be uploading images with a number on or having the number in the name then working more closely to the trades, for example, I currently know values of the Limited Edition Rares such as the Pink Dragon, Holo Nelly, whereas others might be better at others.

It definitely hasn't been forgotten about though - if you ever want to know something, just PM/VM/quote or mention me just so I'll definitely read it.

Thanks to Dilusionate; for directing me here.

[sex]

I've no idea what's happening, I have no problem with attempting to value them on the site, but again I still don't know how to sort them; there are also questions on whether to just have them in one category, but then the ranges are questioned.

I believe Mr-Trainor; was going to test something, I could be wrong, I haven't forgotten about it don't worry, I haven't had as much time this week due to my other departments requiring more time in some cases as well and personal reasons.

It might just be uploading images with a number on or having the number in the name then working more closely to the trades, for example, I currently know values of the Limited Edition Rares such as the Pink Dragon, Holo Nelly, whereas others might be better at others.

It definitely hasn't been forgotten about though - if you ever want to know something, just PM/VM/quote or mention me just so I'll definitely read it.

Thanks to Dilusionate; for directing me here.

I think like 3/4 people have explained how to sort them in this thread lol, but if Luke is doing it then i'm sure he knows the way. it would just be nice to see some fast progress lol.

Also do you have the link to the poll about rare values by any chance?????

[Samantha]

I think like 3/4 people have explained how to sort them in this thread lol, but if Luke is doing it then i'm sure he knows the way. it would just be nice to see some fast progress lol.

Also do you have the link to the poll about rare values by any chance?????

Fast progress? It's not just Rare Values that needs that, and motivation isn't going to be there when those who are meant to be doing this so called fast progress aren't doing it. People have said things yes, but nothing is set in stone, if someone wants to give an actual full explanation then I'll listen, but there is a difference between putting something into action than just saying it. I won't shoot ideas down, but at the moment is there any point? After V7 comes it'll be like we wasted a lot of time, in reality I'd actually like the coding requests from 2010 doing before I even attempt to work on Limited Edition Rares.

Sorry if it seems like I'm flaming you or anything as I'm glad you're giving feedback, but it isn't a fast progress for things like this, not in Rare Values anyway as I said - I'm waiting for coding requests from 2010 which won't be implemented until v7 due to lazy ex staff. I'll see what I can do, but I don't know which numbers sell for what or the ranges to do; plus I think it'd look very messy if we had different ranges, I've already sent too many graphics request to the team and by the looks of it I'd need them more for the Limited Edition Rares.

[sex]

Fast progress? It's not just Rare Values that needs that, and motivation isn't going to be there when those who are meant to be doing this so called fast progress aren't doing it. People have said things yes, but nothing is set in stone, if someone wants to give an actual full explanation then I'll listen, but there is a difference between putting something into action than just saying it. I won't shoot ideas down, but at the moment is there any point? After V7 comes it'll be like we wasted a lot of time, in reality I'd actually like the coding requests from 2010 doing before I even attempt to work on Limited Edition Rares.

Sorry if it seems like I'm flaming you or anything as I'm glad you're giving feedback, but it isn't a fast progress for things like this, not in Rare Values anyway as I said - I'm waiting for coding requests from 2010 which won't be implemented until v7 due to lazy ex staff. I'll see what I can do, but I don't know which numbers sell for what or the ranges to do; plus I think it'd look very messy if we had different ranges, I've already sent too many graphics request to the team and by the looks of it I'd need them more for the Limited Edition Rares.

Meh, don't do it. It's not going to bother me in the slightest, i'm just pointing out a huge niche in the market which could possibly make Habbox Rare Values relevant again, because you can fight all you want saying people still use them when the fact of the matter is, they don't. I don't care what your poll says lol. Even you, the manager don't use the values on the site, anytime i see you mentioning something price related it's always to do with the marketplace price.

Yes fast progress, i know it's a word that has no meaning on Habbox (official rooms for example, i'm pretty sure Mike is bringing them back since December, yet something so simple still hasn't come). I just don't see how you can't value even 10 LTD's, it wouldn't take more than a few days? Is it adding them to the site that's the problem, are you unable to add new pictures because no once has anyone mentioned that problem in this thread.

The plan for what could be done has been laid out as clear as possible, i don't know how easier i can make it for you?

Make a new category called "LTDS", and then maybe have an image of each one inside that category which people can click on and it will bring them into another page where the items will be grouped. For example, they click on the Easter Dino Egg.

#1 - Price
#2 - Price
#3-20 - Price
#20-50 Price
# 50-380 Price

Maybe even less than that once you find the value of things and realise they may all be around the same price. I don't even know why i bothered typing this out because giving feedback on anything non-forum related in regards to Habbox is like talking to brick wall. I'm not talking about rares but all community departments, its like you move as a snails pace while every other fansite is zooming ahead in terms on innovation and ideas lol.

[Samantha]

Meh, don't do it. It's not going to bother me in the slightest, i'm just pointing out a huge niche in the market which could possibly make Habbox Rare Values relevant again, because you can fight all you want saying people still use them when the fact of the matter is, they don't. I don't care what your poll says lol. Even you, the manager don't use the values on the site, anytime i see you mentioning something price related it's always to do with the marketplace price.

Yes fast progress, i know it's a word that has no meaning on Habbox (official rooms for example, i'm pretty sure Mike is bringing them back since December, yet something so simple still hasn't come). I just don't see how you can't value even 10 LTD's, it wouldn't take more than a few days? Is it adding them to the site that's the problem, are you unable to add new pictures because no once has anyone mentioned that problem in this thread.

The plan for what could be done has been laid out as clear as possible, i don't know how easier i can make it for you?

Make a new category called "LTDS", and then maybe have an image of each one inside that category which people can click on and it will bring them into another page where the items will be grouped. For example, they click on the Easter Dino Egg.

#1 - Price
#2 - Price
#3-20 - Price
#20-50 Price
# 50-380 Price

Maybe even less than that once you find the value of things and realise they may all be around the same price. I don't even know why i bothered typing this out because giving feedback on anything non-forum related in regards to Habbox is like talking to brick wall. I'm not talking about rares but all community departments, its like you move as a snails pace while every other fansite is zooming ahead in terms on innovation and ideas lol.

Right, let's get this straight, we don't move at a snail's pace, but when all the Rare Values staff are told we're not doing Limited Edition Rares until v7 that's what we expect, we got told by Pigperson; before I was even head again, sorry for not being expected to do them when we're waiting for v7 - that old chestnut indeed as it is true, if people could be bothered to do work and actually get it done then some stuff would be solved easily.

Also, your idea we can't do, none of us have the capability to have a page for the Limited Edition Rares, then an image of one whichever rare you want then them grouped, we can't do it on v6 so yes we'd have to wait until v7. The only plausible way would be to have the section then have about however many ranged groups you need with a picture of them, which will already make the page look messy.

The fact of the matter is you don't know if they use them or not, when frankly I have seen a fair amount of people go off Habbox values - yes I use the MarketPlace, but you're wrong when you say I don't use Habbox, it's a great way to compare values in shops and the MarketPlace and helps values in the future - some of the values on Habbox are more accurate than the MarketPlace, I don't give a **** about what the poll said either, I wasn't there when they did it so it doesn't concern me; what matters is Rare Values in the future, it's not my fault that for ages I've been given the v7 excuse, hell when I was Rare Values Manager the first time around I got that pitiful excuse, again I'll say it because some bone idle staff can't be arsed doing jobs from 2010 because they're that incapable of coding something that they're suppose to know and no this is directed at no current staff member - just some old ones that Habbox could have done without messing up the site.

Sorry I fancied a rant, not at you, but in general, I am not taking any of the blame for the lack of Limited Edition Rares on the site, they were released from April last year, I resigned a couple of months later, yet it was never spoken about until I left, it should have been sorted months ago, not using the v7 excuse, but frankly it's everyone's easiest option - one thing though, I don't think I've really used that excuse, I should have done, maybe then I wouldn't feel like I'm not good enough would I?

[Mr-Trainor]

Trust me, this has been on my mind for the past few days, particularly with the 3 that were released this weekend. I did mean to talk to Sam about this yesterday but forgot - I've been focusing on other things within the department and pretty much spent hours on that yesterday :P. Like I've said already, I don't know what's planned for v7 but I did have an idea for how LTDs can be valued on the site with that (along with another separate idea) so I'll post them tomorrow (well, today) as I'm off.

Anyway, I do agree that we could just have a temporary solution with the current system - an LTD section with the different items and maybe for now we may as well just have an overall value for each LTD rather than doing anything with the numbers? What's everyone's opinions on that? Samanfa; Chippiewill; an LTD tag would be good too, would that be easy to implement? I can't imagine it'd take more than a few mins but then again, I've heard how David's coding can be hard to understand :P.

[Samantha]

Trust me, this has been on my mind for the past few days, particularly with the 3 that were released this weekend. I did mean to talk to Sam about this yesterday but forgot - I've been focusing on other things within the department and pretty much spent hours on that yesterday :P. Like I've said already, I don't know what's planned for v7 but I did have an idea for how LTDs can be valued on the site with that (along with another separate idea) so I'll post them tomorrow (well, today) as I'm off.

Anyway, I do agree that we could just have a temporary solution with the current system - an LTD section with the different items and maybe for now we may as well just have an overall value for each LTD rather than doing anything with the numbers? What's everyone's opinions on that? Samanfa; Chippiewill; an LTD tag would be good too, would that be easy to implement? I can't imagine it'd take more than a few mins but then again, I've heard how David's coding can be hard to understand :P.

Yes, I said that a while back again before I even got management. It doesn't matter though, I know I'm not good enough to implement anything so does it matter? If it was up to me I would have attempted it at an earlier time, what's the point when we've nearly got 40 Limited Edition Rares now, there might be a niche, but it's not unheard of as I know some already have values for them.

[Mr-Trainor]

Yes, I said that a while back again before I even got management. It doesn't matter though, I know I'm not good enough to implement anything so does it matter? If it was up to me I would have attempted it at an earlier time, what's the point when we've nearly got 40 Limited Edition Rares now, there might be a niche, but it's not unheard of as I know some already have values for them.
Who or what are you referring to here exactly :P?

[Samantha]

Who or what are you referring to here exactly :P?

You know who I mean so I don't think you need to ask :P.

[sex]

Right, let's get this straight, we don't move at a snail's pace, but when all the Rare Values staff are told we're not doing Limited Edition Rares until v7 that's what we expect, we got told by Pigperson; before I was even head again, sorry for not being expected to do them when we're waiting for v7 - that old chestnut indeed as it is true, if people could be bothered to do work and actually get it done then some stuff would be solved easily.

This part confused me, why are you still using ideas and taking orders from someone who isn't Habbox Staff anymore, do you not have ideas or a mind of your own where your allowed do things you wish? If people don't do the work why are they staff, you are the manager after all. Should you not be making them work, or is it the fact that they don't want to as they see there is no point?


Also, your idea we can't do, none of us have the capability to have a page for the Limited Edition Rares, then an image of one whichever rare you want then them grouped, we can't do it on v6 so yes we'd have to wait until v7. The only plausible way would be to have the section then have about however many ranged groups you need with a picture of them, which will already make the page look messy.

http://i.imgur.com/T1B0X6X.png is this not a page/category for a furni range that was only released a month ago? What has happened between then and now that you no longer have the capability to add a page? You clearly aren't understanding what i'm talking about, which i don't know why when everyone else in this thread has lol?

Lets make this even simpler!
lets pretend someone has clicked onto the Easter Dino Page (i'm going to use this as an example
http://i.imgur.com/ACyL2CV.png
What is stopping you from upload the picture four times, in each of those boxes and where the name is (ie. alien, blue holotree etc) have Easter Dino #20-100........now do you understand. I'm sorry i had to explain it even simpler than before and speak to you like a baby but you're the one flaming me because you can't understand my idea when everyone else could!




The fact of the matter is you don't know if they use them or not, when frankly I have seen a fair amount of people go off Habbox values - yes I use the MarketPlace, but you're wrong when you say I don't use Habbox, it's a great way to compare values in shops and the MarketPlace and helps values in the future - some of the values on Habbox are more accurate than the MarketPlace, I don't give a **** about what the poll said either, I wasn't there when they did it so it doesn't concern me; what matters is Rare Values in the future, it's not my fault that for ages I've been given the v7 excuse, hell when I was Rare Values Manager the first time around I got that pitiful excuse, again I'll say it because some bone idle staff can't be arsed doing jobs from 2010 because they're that incapable of coding something that they're suppose to know and no this is directed at no current staff member - just some old ones that Habbox could have done without messing up the site.

Glad we agree that you don't use it, and use the marketplace even more. I think you will agree i'm probably in shops just as much as you sometimes and once since January i've seen someone mentioned Habbox, for a teleport.......which guess what?! Isn't able to go in he marketplace lol


Sorry I fancied a rant, not at you, but in general, I am not taking any of the blame for the lack of Limited Edition Rares on the site, they were released from April last year, I resigned a couple of months later, yet it was never spoken about until I left, it should have been sorted months ago, not using the v7 excuse, but frankly it's everyone's easiest option - one thing though, I don't think I've really used that excuse, I should have done, maybe then I wouldn't feel like I'm not good enough would I?

I get you lol, seems everyone is frustrated and not a lot of people do their job at Habbox because they want to more because they have to meet a number of hours/whatver lol. Don't really get the rest of it lol

---------- Post added 28-05-2013 at 02:01 AM ----------


Yes, I said that a while back again before I even got management. It doesn't matter though, I know I'm not good enough to implement anything so does it matter? If it was up to me I would have attempted it at an earlier time, what's the point when we've nearly got 40 Limited Edition Rares now, there might be a niche, but it's not unheard of as I know some already have values for them.

What site is valuing them please let me know because i really want to see it lol

[Mr-Trainor]

You know who I mean so I don't think you need to ask :P.
I think I'm just too tired right now :'(.

This part confused me, why are you still using ideas and taking orders from someone who isn't Habbox Staff anymore, do you not have ideas or a mind of your own where your allowed do things you wish? If people don't do the work why are they staff, you are the manager after all. Should you not be making them work, or is it the fact that they don't want to as they see there is no point?



http://i.imgur.com/T1B0X6X.png is this not a page/category for a furni range that was only released a month ago? What has happened between then and now that you no longer have the capability to add a page? You clearly aren't understanding what i'm talking about, which i don't know why when everyone else in this thread has lol?

Lets make this even simpler!
lets pretend someone has clicked onto the Easter Dino Page (i'm going to use this as an example
http://i.imgur.com/ACyL2CV.png
What is stopping you from upload the picture four times, in each of those boxes and where the name is (ie. alien, blue holotree etc) have Easter Dino #20-100........now do you understand. I'm sorry i had to explain it even simpler than before and speak to you like a baby but you're the one flaming me because you can't understand my idea when everyone else could!





Glad we agree that you don't use it, and use the marketplace even more. I think you will agree i'm probably in shops just as much as you sometimes and once since January i've seen someone mentioned Habbox, for a teleport.......which guess what?! Isn't able to go in he marketplace lol



I get you lol, seems everyone is frustrated and not a lot of people do their job at Habbox because they want to more because they have to meet a number of hours/whatver lol. Don't really get the rest of it lol
Yes we can add a category, I added one today. Yes we can put #'s in the boxes, but what about just an overall value for each LTD as a temporary solution while we wait for v7 (although tbh if there even any point in talking about v7 when it feels as though it'll never come) :'(. But another problem, well for me anyway, is that Habbo don't list all the LTD rares so getting accurate information and release order isn't easy. But still possible either way.

As for using Habbox for values and marketplace for values, I think that when you're in client and you see an item in a shop, it's much quicker to just type it in to the marketplace and get a quick result, whereas Habbox is a bit slower. However, I do find Habbox more useful and I use it on a regular basis, although tbh I would say that I use it more for the data on previous values and changes over time than the current value but I also compare the marketplace with Habbox in case the marketplace has been rigged. Habbox still has a place for values and I don't think that needs to be questioned any further :P. However, as I've said before, it's a shame that fundamental problems with v6 even before it was released to the public are still existent in today's version and were never fixed, which included a list of over 20 coding requests from myself and Dan alone. Lets hope v7 arrives soon..

[Samantha]

This part confused me, why are you still using ideas and taking orders from someone who isn't Habbox Staff anymore, do you not have ideas or a mind of your own where your allowed do things you wish? If people don't do the work why are they staff, you are the manager after all. Should you not be making them work, or is it the fact that they don't want to as they see there is no point?



http://i.imgur.com/T1B0X6X.png is this not a page/category for a furni range that was only released a month ago? What has happened between then and now that you no longer have the capability to add a page? You clearly aren't understanding what i'm talking about, which i don't know why when everyone else in this thread has lol?

Lets make this even simpler!
lets pretend someone has clicked onto the Easter Dino Page (i'm going to use this as an example
http://i.imgur.com/ACyL2CV.png
What is stopping you from upload the picture four times, in each of those boxes and where the name is (ie. alien, blue holotree etc) have Easter Dino #20-100........now do you understand. I'm sorry i had to explain it even simpler than before and speak to you like a baby but you're the one flaming me because you can't understand my idea when everyone else could!





Glad we agree that you don't use it, and use the marketplace even more. I think you will agree i'm probably in shops just as much as you sometimes and once since January i've seen someone mentioned Habbox, for a teleport.......which guess what?! Isn't able to go in he marketplace lol



I get you lol, seems everyone is frustrated and not a lot of people do their job at Habbox because they want to more because they have to meet a number of hours/whatver lol. Don't really get the rest of it lol

I'm not still using ideas off someone who isn't staff - when I was normal Rare Values staff we were told we weren't doing Limited Edition Rares until v7, so when I gained manager again I automatically thought that would still be the case as apparently to add them we'd need more coding requests.


Make a new category called "LTDS", and then maybe have an image of each one inside that category which people can click on and it will bring them into another page where the items will be grouped. For example, they click on the Easter Dino Egg.

This part, is what I meant, I can make pages and add images of course I can, but I can't do what you said in the quote.

We'd have a page called Limited Edition Rares.
If we have an image of each, I couldn't then have another page of it being grouped unless I made a separate category for every Limited Edition Rare - I can do what you said in that post (which you didn't before) whereby we have different images that are grouped, but like I said I think it'd look messy and I see no need for the images being on more than once.

Also, don't patronise me, I fully understood what you meant, the way you worded it though made it impossible to do by me as you said have an image of each rare and then have them grouped - I can't do that.

I said I use the MarketPlace - doesn't mean I don't use Habbox, a lot still do and yeah you may go round shops and so do I, I've seen a fair amount who use Habbox, some of the Habbox values helped some didn't, we can't please or be 100% accurate.

Yeah, Habbox is great for those not sold in the MarketPlace, but it's also harder if we haven't seen trades in a while - I don't know half of the rare teleports values, although I know some, but then again people still use Habbox for it, either that or they attempt to sell at a ridiculous price, which I've witnessed on Habbo.

---------- Post added 28-05-2013 at 02:08 AM ----------


I think I'm just too tired right now :'(.

Yes we can add a category, I added one today. Yes we can put #'s in the boxes, but what about just an overall value for each LTD as a temporary solution while we wait for v7 (although tbh if there even any point in talking about v7 when it feels as though it'll never come) :'(. But another problem, well for me anyway, is that Habbo don't list all the LTD rares so getting accurate information and release order isn't easy. But still possible either way.

As for using Habbox for values and marketplace for values, I think that when you're in client and you see an item in a shop, it's much quicker to just type it in to the marketplace and get a quick result, whereas Habbox is a bit slower. However, I do find Habbox more useful and I use it on a regular basis, although tbh I would say that I use it more for the data on previous values and changes over time than the current value but I also compare the marketplace with Habbox in case the marketplace has been rigged. Habbox still has a place for values and I don't think that needs to be questioned any further :P. However, as I've said before, it's a shame that fundamental problems with v6 even before it was released to the public are still existent in today's version and were never fixed, which included a list of over 20 coding requests from myself and Dan alone. Lets hope v7 arrives soon..

http://habboxwiki.com/Limited_Edition_Rares

Done by me, all the content and everything, I just need to add the newer ones and make pages for the Easels - all the information is correct currently on there for you.

[Kardan]

So LTDs aren't on the site because you don't want to use the same image more than once? Seems a bit of a strange excuse.

[Yawn]

anything on LTDs is better than nothing but tbh i think u may have missed the boat on them anyway

[Mr-Trainor]

anything on LTDs is better than nothing but tbh i think u may have missed the boat on them anyway
True to an extent and like I've said before, I don't know why anything wasn't done after the first few LTDs had been released. However, it's still good to have something and when the next LTD comes out we can try to get a value quickly and then share the word.

I'll say this for the third time since no one has replied; what about a temporary solution where we just have an overall value for each LTD and nothing related to numbers (yet).

[Yawn]

welllllllllll rather than an overall number wat about a bracket could u do that. so highest to lowest value

[sex]

True to an extent and like I've said before, I don't know why anything wasn't done after the first few LTDs had been released. However, it's still good to have something and when the next LTD comes out we can try to get a value quickly and then share the word.

I'll say this for the third time since no one has replied; what about a temporary solution where we just have an overall value for each LTD and nothing related to numbers (yet).

the number plays a huge part in their value sometimes tho. i really don't see why you can't use the same image twice??? i dont get this whole waiting for coding so we ca group them etc, it seems like a lazy excuse to me lol!

surely you could just use the same image over and over or even upload it a fewtime with the number like holonelly1 hollynelly2.............

[Mr-Trainor]

welllllllllll rather than an overall number wat about a bracket could u do that. so highest to lowest value
What do you mean, like a range of values? E.g.
20c - 30c

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the number plays a huge part in their value sometimes tho. i really don't see why you can't use the same image twice??? i dont get this whole waiting for coding so we ca group them etc, it seems like a lazy excuse to me lol!

surely you could just use the same image over and over or even upload it a fewtime with the number like holonelly1 hollynelly2.............
What I'm saying is that we may as well start simple, have an overall value for each LTD, which is the fundamental aspect of valuing LTDs. But then once that is done we can start adding different ranges. I'm not saying we can't do that now, but it'd just take longer and also it's going to be messy and hard to navigate. But yeah, I think that we should start with an overall value first :P.

[sex]

yeah whatever do what you like at this stage, idc about this thread now. by the time v7 comes out some other fansite will probs be well known for valuing ltds lol

[Yawn]

What do you mean, like a range of values? E.g.
20c - 30c

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What I'm saying is that we may as well start simple, have an overall value for each LTD, which is the fundamental aspect of valuing LTDs. But then once that is done we can start adding different ranges. I'm not saying we can't do that now, but it'd just take longer and also it's going to be messy and hard to navigate. But yeah, I think that we should start with an overall value first :P.
yh exactly. at least ppl then get an idea of the value and its range

[xxMATTGxx]

What do the images look like with numbers on? :P

[Mr-Trainor]

yeah whatever do what you like at this stage, idc about this thread now. by the time v7 comes out some other fansite will probs be well known for valuing ltds lol
What :S? Are you not happy that we've been listening to your suggestions :P? Sam also started last night/morning with adding LTDs because of this thread.

http://habbox.com/#!/Rares/view/Black+Leviathan

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yh exactly. at least ppl then get an idea of the value and its range
That's another thing I'm pretty sure we asked for, but is not possible lol. We can't do:
- decimals
- ranges
Decimals being a huge problem, whereas ranges aren't needed so much anyway.

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What do the images look like with numbers on? :P
Have you clicked on one and seen the LTD thing :P? When we did implement numbers etc we'd have to do a graphics request for them all though anyway, I tried making one myself last week just to show the idea but it failed :'(.

[sex]

What :S? Are you not happy that we've been listening to your suggestions :P? Sam also started last night/morning with adding LTDs because of this thread.

http://habbox.com/#!/Rares/view/Black+Leviathan

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That's another thing I'm pretty sure we asked for, but is not possible lol. We can't do:
- decimals
- ranges
Decimals being a huge problem, whereas ranges aren't needed so much anyway.

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Have you clicked on one and seen the LTD thing :P? When we did implement numbers etc we'd have to do a graphics request for them all though anyway, I tried making one myself last week just to show the idea but it failed :'(.


noo not that it's v7 is always given as excuse so something can be done fully :P
but thats god they are being added

[Mr-Trainor]

noo not that it's v7 is always given as excuse so something can be done fully :P
but thats god they are being added
Ah ok lol, I don't blame you :P. I'm fed up of it myself. But anyway, the department will be working on adding the rest of the LTDs today and then we can start with valuing them :P.

[Samantha]

So LTDs aren't on the site because you don't want to use the same image more than once? Seems a bit of a strange excuse.

No they're not on the site as yet again I was told to wait for v7, even though some of the things apparently on v7 should have been here years ago.

[Mr-Trainor]

No they're not on the site as yet again I was told to wait for v7, even though some of the things apparently on v7 should have been here years ago.
A lot of things should have been here years ago but I gave up on waiting for them :(.

[Yawn]

y is v7 not here and so late idgi

[xxMATTGxx]

What :S? Are you not happy that we've been listening to your suggestions :P? Sam also started last night/morning with adding LTDs because of this thread.

http://habbox.com/#!/Rares/view/Black+Leviathan

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That's another thing I'm pretty sure we asked for, but is not possible lol. We can't do:
- decimals
- ranges
Decimals being a huge problem, whereas ranges aren't needed so much anyway.

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Have you clicked on one and seen the LTD thing :P? When we did implement numbers etc we'd have to do a graphics request for them all though anyway, I tried making one myself last week just to show the idea but it failed :'(.

Clicked on what, a rare? Yeah I have. I meant the actual images that would be used on Habbox.

[Samantha]

Clicked on what, a rare? Yeah I have. I meant the actual images that would be used on Habbox.

We'd just use the large image for it that's on Habbo.

[Chippiewill]

That's another thing I'm pretty sure we asked for, but is not possible lol. We can't do:
- decimals
- ranges
Decimals being a huge problem, whereas ranges aren't needed so much anyway.

Just added decimals :)

[xxMATTGxx]

We'd just use the large image for it that's on Habbo.

Ah okay.

[Samantha]

Just added decimals :)

SERIOUSLY? THANK YOU.

[LiquidLuck.]

Thanks for the decimals! Values even more correct now. :3

[Mr-Trainor]

Just added decimals :)
Woo thanks :D. Idk why David couldn't have done it years ago :(.

Clicked on what, a rare? Yeah I have. I meant the actual images that would be used on Habbox.

We'd just use the large image for it that's on Habbo.
Oh I meant like, if we were having numbers we'd probably have it in the same style as how it tells you what number LTD you have on Habbo.

[Chippiewill]

Now, I don't mean to spoil you guys. But I set up a new new rares page using V7's system :) :
http://habbox.com/#!/Newrares2

Unfortunately you can't change the displayed rares.

Edit: They're not in the right order quite yet, they will be the next time Sulake add furni.

[Mr-Trainor]

Now, I don't mean to spoil you guys. But I set up a new new rares page using V7's system :) :
http://habbox.com/#!/Newrares2

Unfortunately you can't change the displayed rares.

Edit: They're not in the right order quite yet, they will be the next time Sulake add furni.
Oo yay sounds good, but do Sulake allow this anymore?

__

An update on LTDs so that everyone knows; all 37 items have been added to Habbox with their release price. They're hidden for now though, so I'll speak to @Samanfa (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=68263); when she comes back online and hopefully won't be too long before we make it visible :D.

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Chippiewill; is it possible to hide the decimal places for items 10c or above, or 100c or above?

[Chippiewill]

Oo yay sounds good, but do Sulake allow this anymore?
Well Puhekupla do that so it's not that naughty.


Chippiewill; is it possible to hide the decimal places for items 10c or above, or 100c or above? Rare values is sooo neeedy. I'll take a look later.

[Mr-Trainor]

Well Puhekupla do that so it's not that naughty.

Rare values is sooo neeedy. I'll take a look later.
Yeah sorry about that, I know I ask for a lot (A).

[Chippiewill]

It should now display as much precision as you input. So it'll only show the decimal places it as info on.

Only on the non-staff facing parts of the site that is.

[Mr-Trainor]

It should now display as much precision as you input. So it'll only show the decimal places it as info on.

Only on the non-staff facing parts of the site that is.
Woo thanks again :D!