What do you want to happen to "fast threads"?

[xxMATTGxx]

This poll is to see the community's view on the fast threads that have been posted in a big amount over the past couple of days. You might not be aware of them as "fast threads" but they are basically threads that have zero or very little discussion and are so fast to reply to.

Example of these threads:

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778143
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778107
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778110
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778083
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778109
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777979

Vote in the poll - Results will remain hidden until poll has closed. Poll closes on Sunday 26th May 2013.

Happy voting!

[Chippiewill]

A vote for any (or all) of the top four is a vote for sanity!

[Tom]

Chooses them all. **** THE SYSTEM.

[Chippiewill]

Chooses them all.

Well that just reduces the contrast in the results.

[Tom]

Well that just reduces the contrast in the results.

Adds more to my post.

[Chippiewill]

You're not really ******* the system, you're just wasting your vote. In reality you just ****** yourself.

[Samantha]

Where's the don't care option ;)?

[Chippiewill]

Where's the don't care option ;)?

Same as skynus, vote for all of them.

[Mr-Trainor]

Where's the don't care option ;)?
I guess the last option 'Don't change anything and let them continue' basically means you don't care :P.

[Chippiewill]

I guess the last option 'Don't change anything and let them continue' basically means you don't care :P.
Don't you dare mislead people with that tripe.

[Mr-Trainor]

I voted the last option, just because I think it's hard to differentiate between a 'normal' thread and a 'fast' thread, and could be a difference of opinion. I think the current rules deal with pointless threads just fine, as proven with the move of the coco pops thread. Therefore, I do not feel anything needs to be changed - but maybe on a case by case basis, e.g. certain user making lots of threads like this in a short space of time, then they could be dealt with. But yeah, I voted for the last option :P.

[samsaBEAR]

I think they're stupid, this is a discussion forum and these don't contribute in the slightest. Move them to Spam and be done with them.

[mrwoooooooo]

move to spam

[Zelda]

Voted for no change and voted for new sub-forum with post count enabled too

obviously if this happened I would want stupid ones moved to spam though, depending on how much conversation the thread generates

[MKR&*42]

Voted top option and last option, although I would prefer the top.

[Cerys]

I think I couldn't really care less.

They're fun to post in so leave them, but if you insist on doing something, just move them all to spam and let the real fun begin.. ;)

[Shockwave.2CC]

Voted for what need doing

[Jurv]

LEAVE THEM ALONE

[Reality]

Yeah there should possibly be the not bothered at all option

[Chippiewill]

Yeah there should possibly be the not bothered at all option
Tick all of them or just ignore the poll. Common sense sheeple.

[Calum0812]

Post count enabled. Separate forum.
Keep it tidy and all ;)

[Reality]

Why tick all of them when I don't particularly care.

[Chippiewill]

Why tick all of them when I don't particularly care.

Because it has the same effect :rolleyes:

[wixard]

why did you not include my porridge thread

[Reality]

Because it has the same effect :rolleyes:

Suppose you have a point :)

[Chippiewill]

why did you not include my porridge thread

It was not an exhaustive list.

[sex]

i choose keep them how it is. my blood pressure wasn't raised by them so i don't mind!

[wixard]

It was not an exhaustive list.

SO?!

[FlyingJesus]

I voted 2 and 3 because I am 2 and 3

[today]

ban themmmm.

[Red]

leave them be! I act enjoy posting in some of them and have been posting more in general with all these new threads being made even if some of them were a bit crap.

[Mark]

Not really sure about this. If you move them to spam then I guess it might encourage arguments etc and then the thread becomes pointless. I think there should be a rule where if the poll/thread can create some level of discussion it should be allowed. If not move it somewhere else. E.g. "What's your favourite football team" would allow people to discuss latest matches, etc. However if someone posts "What's your favourite piece of clothing?" Nothing can really be discussed from it.

[Calum0812]

It was not an exhaustive list.

That would've taken a while to make...

[!x!dude!x!2]

damn i didnt realize we could pick then all :(

[Jordan]

Move them to spam. Looking at them now makes the forum look terrible with such awful threads!!

[Kyle]

not sure why they need to be moved, leave them there and stop making more work for yourselves. for those bothered about them why don't you make new more discursive topics to force the 'pointless' ones to the bottom of forum.

[Samantha]

If we leave them or move them to spam, they're still going to clog up your new posts and activity streams so who cares :P?

[Chippiewill]

They make general discussion available for general discussion.

[Zelda]

One main problem here clearly lies in the fact people are not making the conversation out of the threads. Some are completely incapable maybe but for instance the shades of blue thread by having people have discussions over it it managed to develop etc. If people actually want threads to become more constructive and full of discussion you have to put your effort in to comment on them really and make conversation about what might have started a menial topic.

[AgnesIO]

One main problem here clearly lies in the fact people are not making the conversation out of the threads. Some are completely incapable maybe but for instance the shades of blue thread by having people have discussions over it it managed to develop etc. If people actually want threads to become more constructive and full of discussion you have to put your effort in to comment on them really and make conversation about what might have started a menial topic.

I have tried this for 5 years, and 99% of the time you cannot create discussion in these threads. I have quoted people (so they clearly see the quote) asking them about whatever they just said, shock horror, no reply.

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Voted to move into a sub-forum, selected both with and without post count. PERSONALLY, I would say no post count - but I am somewhat past the days where I could give a damn about other users posting in these threads for a quick post count boost. I don't care if someone does that, as long as it doesn't dampen my own experience viewing the forum.

Didn't select to move to spam, as that is a community in its own right - don't add Skandair's crap to it.

[Zelda]

I have tried this for 5 years, and 99% of the time you cannot create discussion in these threads. I have quoted people (so they clearly see the quote) asking them about whatever they just said, shock horror, no reply.

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Voted to move into a sub-forum, selected both with and without post count. PERSONALLY, I would say no post count - but I am somewhat past the days where I could give a damn about other users posting in these threads for a quick post count boost. I don't care if someone does that, as long as it doesn't dampen my own experience viewing the forum.

Didn't select to move to spam, as that is a community in its own right - don't add Skandair's crap to it.

It's a pity really cause if other people actually made an effort as well it would work instead of just one or two people. I think from what I've been seeing recently its been getting better in some cases and worked well though, so might as well try lmfao.

Agree on not moving to spam, would very much put off a lot of people either due to post count or because of the seperate community feel to it as I know people are quite alienated by it sometimes

[Jarkie]

There is nothing wrong with making topics like 'how big are your shoes' etc. This is a forum, a forum is where we as a community can post and share things at their will.

Why do some people treat this forum like their life depends on it. just sit back and enjoy the years of work that has gone into it. and quit yeah moaning, it is only posts and tokens that change, just grow up (you know who you are).

If you don't like these things, no one is forcing you to read and reply to them.

[Jurv]

why people so bothered about them i'll never understand lol if you don't like them create your own. i'd rather have these threads than stick to what the activity was like before.. there was like one new thread a day (which was probs someone stressing about lack of activity when its blatantly obvious with people wanting to remove threads) obviously you'd still have to moderate the threads topic but as long as they're answerable and aren't avoiding the rules you should leave them alone. y'all need to CHILL

[zombies]

i like the trending tupac.

[Aiden]

Voted top option and last option, although I would prefer the top.

same as hayden

[Succubus]

why people so bothered about them i'll never understand lol if you don't like them create your own. i'd rather have these threads than stick to what the activity was like before.. there was like one new thread a day (which was probs someone stressing about lack of activity when its blatantly obvious with people wanting to remove threads) obviously you'd still have to moderate the threads topic but as long as they're answerable and aren't avoiding the rules you should leave them alone. y'all need to CHILL

100% this.

Anyway, I voted top and bottom.

[Daltron]

doesnt bother me ;)

[-:Undertaker:-]

I thought we had a vote on this a few months ago where members opted to keep the system as it was? why are we being asked to vote again EU-style (if i'm correct) over something that has already been decided and something that only a small group of forum members (who hardly post anything themselves) have a problem with?

If this goes through then i'm in half a mind to stop posting anything anymore (watch threads in Current Affairs dry up) apart from my monthly Debates quota - the few complaining about people posting threads can take over me and post the detailed discussion threads they want. SOMEHOW though, I don't have a feeling they will as they don't seem keen on doing it now - the best they can muster is piss take threads in discussion taking the mickey out of other threads other people have made. If those complaining put as much effort into posting interesting discussions as they posted complaining in the Feedback forum, then we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Also I voted for the top one by mistake, so -1 and +1 onto the last option please.

[Chippiewill]

(watch threads in Current Affairs dry up)
I'm sure people will cope without 20 ukip poll threads every week

[-:Undertaker:-]

I'm sure people will cope without 20 ukip poll threads every week

It's not the threads, its the discussion it generates. Often i'll post a news story along with it. But again, if it bothers you so much - then post numerous threads yourself and the same goes for Kardan - i've not seen him post many (if any) interesting threads in 'Discuss Anything' - yourself and he have only posted pisstake threads in that forum. You want change? lead it rather than expecting others to do it for you.

I am sick to death of month-in, month-out, people complaining about what other people are posting - especially when they don't post many threads themselves.

[AgnesIO]

I thought we had a vote on this a few months ago where members opted to keep the system as it was? why are we being asked to vote again EU-style (if i'm correct) over something that has already been decided and something that only a small group of forum members (who hardly post anything themselves) have a problem with?

If this goes through then i'm in half a mind to stop posting anything anymore (watch threads in Current Affairs dry up) apart from my monthly Debates quota - the few complaining about people posting threads can take over me and post the detailed discussion threads they want. SOMEHOW though, I don't have a feeling they will as they don't seem keen on doing it now - the best they can muster is piss take threads in discussion taking the mickey out of other threads other people have made. If those complaining put as much effort into posting interesting discussions as they posted complaining in the Feedback forum, then we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Also I voted for the top one by mistake, so -1 and +1 onto the last option please.

Fairly sure the Current Affairs section is actually a UKIP section - you rarely post anything that isn't anti-Europe or pro UKIP. I don't think many will be missing that.

Also, some of the people asking for the change are amongst the highest posters on the forum? I think the problem is, last time people agreed on moving it, and then it was moved back (wasn't around when it was moved back so cannot comment). I thought you were always in favour of this sort of referendum style decision making - in which case, the ORIGINAL decision should never have been reversed.

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[Chippiewill]

It's actually pretty funny to call the BBC out on bias when the Current Affairs forum is a shining beacon of bias.

[buttons]

voting for let them continue just to annoy chippewill. if u constantly complain on an issue, people will do the opposite that u want them to :)

[-:Undertaker:-]

Why is it that the people complaining aren't the ones posting any detailed discussions themselves? do they expect the rest of us to do it for them, spoon feeding them like babies? well if this ridiculous change goes through I certainly won't be.

If it does pass, I look forward to the interesting threads that Kardan, Chippiewill and Marketing are going to be posting daily. I'm sure.


Fairly sure the Current Affairs section is actually a UKIP section - you rarely post anything that isn't anti-Europe or pro UKIP. I don't think many will be missing that.

You and a few others seem to post in them, so when i've stopped posting in that forum - that discussion will be lost.

Alternatively, if you think its too UKIP-Tory orientated then you are free to post anything else.. yet you don't.


Also, some of the people asking for the change are amongst the highest posters on the forum? I think the problem is, last time people agreed on moving it, and then it was moved back (wasn't around when it was moved back so cannot comment). I thought you were always in favour of this sort of referendum style decision making - in which case, the ORIGINAL decision should never have been reversed.

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I'm in favour of letting people post what they want and if I don't like it then I DONT POST IN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean Christ almighty, whats so hard to understand about that?


It's actually pretty funny to call the BBC out on bias when the Current Affairs forum is a shining beacon of bias.

I don't advocate impartiality. I mean, duh?

[Chippiewill]

If it does pass, I look forward to the interesting threads that Kardan, Chippiewill and Marketing are going to be posting daily. I'm sure.

Last time it happened people made threads automatically to fill the void.

[Mr-Trainor]

I agree with Dan -:Undertaker:-; and tbh I don't even know why there is a poll regarding this. As I said in my last post, the rules deal with pointless threads fine and I think that nothing should be done. After all, how many more threads can these people make? They'll either grow up if they've been trying to prove a point, or run out of ideas / get bored eventually if they're just posting them for the fun of it.

[Yawn]

not every thread needs to be a full blown discussion :S

should leave it exactly as it is. i dont get why threads which dont promote discussion are being portrayed as negative not every1 wants to get into a discussion all the time and we can have threads that appeal to every1 then. having a sub forum for fast threads would be dumb and make everything far too messy. the ppl that r against fast threads aren't making slow threads (??? lol) anyway so the forum would entirely dry up and habbox would flop even harder

[Kardan]

I voted for 2 and 5. You either go one way or the other, you put these threads into a subforum with post count disabled, or you let them continue. Since we already tried option 2, and it got reverted because of low activity, the only real option is to let them continue.

Moderators should focus on pointless posting within the threads themselves rather than moving the whole thread.

[Yawn]

mr-trainers post on 2nd page summarises everything i wanted to say much better than i said it so look at this post. i think it is the perfect solution for the current skandair situation in which he is devaluing fast threads and he must be STOPPED b4 he ruins everything and we have another forum and everything is left a mess and rly boring

[lawrawrrr]

Can we a have another option?

Keep them where they are and move Chippiewill to his own sub-forum?

[AgnesIO]

Why is it that the people complaining aren't the ones posting any detailed discussions themselves? do they expect the rest of us to do it for them, spoon feeding them like babies? well if this ridiculous change goes through I certainly won't be.

If it does pass, I look forward to the interesting threads that Kardan, Chippiewill and Marketing are going to be posting daily. I'm sure.



You and a few others seem to post in them, so when i've stopped posting in that forum - that discussion will be lost.

Alternatively, if you think its too UKIP-Tory orientated then you are free to post anything else.. yet you don't.



I'm in favour of letting people post what they want and if I don't like it then I DONT POST IN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean Christ almighty, whats so hard to understand about that?



I don't advocate impartiality. I mean, duh?

People don't necessarily want detailed discussions... just want SOME SORT OF discussion - a forum is pointless if people post in a thread with a one word answer with no real desire to actually be a part of that thread..

I do indeed post in the Politics threads - generally because I find them laughable, sometimes because there are points I agree on (ie. the olive oil thread). The issue is, that Current Affairs forum is not really active; a few of us post in all the threads, the majority don't at all - and some do and just believe the main post, no matter what the source lol The thing is, you probably wouldn't post in a non-EU thread - so even if I or someone else posts something it is likely to be ignored. The ONLY threads that ever do really, really well in that forum are disasters (shootings, bombings, hurricanes etc)

To be fair though, the Current Affairs forum is not really being discussed - it only came up after you threatened to effectively stop posting altogether if the forum was not full of spam threads :L

[Yawn]

a forum is pointless if people post in a thread with a one word answer with no real desire to actually be a part of that thread..no.....:S

i dont even get y we r having this poll and discussion when its something as simple as ignoring a thread u dont like and posting in threads that u like. its ridiculous and the most simple part of a having a forum

also considering these threads in question r far more active than any of the other threads on the whole forum its pretty evident that the forum r here for them :-)

[Empired]

No point in them being there if we move them to a sub-forum with post count disabled as the only reason these threads are posted in is to increase post counts + tokens.

I say we either ban them altogether or move them to a sub-forum with post counts enabled, as the second choice would still keep the forum "active".

[AgnesIO]

No point in them being there if we move them to a sub-forum with post count disabled as the only reason these threads are posted in is to increase post counts + tokens.

I say we either ban them altogether or move them to a sub-forum with post counts enabled, as the second choice would still keep the forum "active".

On that quote, they are indeed spam :L

[Richie]

No point in them being there if we move them to a sub-forum with post count disabled as the only reason these threads are posted in is to increase post counts + tokens.

I say we either ban them altogether or move them to a sub-forum with post counts enabled, as the second choice would still keep the forum "active".


Sums up the entire argument :P

[Jackuffmarshall]

Mr-Trainor

I voted the last option, just because I think it's hard to differentiate between a 'normal' thread and a 'fast' thread, and could be a difference of opinion. I think the current rules deal with pointless threads just fine, as proven with the move of the coco pops thread. Therefore, I do not feel anything needs to be changed - but maybe on a case by case basis, e.g. certain user making lots of threads like this in a short space of time, then they could be dealt with. But yeah, I voted for the last option :P.

Totally agree with you.

[LiquidLuck.]

Voted for ''Move the threads into a sub-forum under "Discuss Anything" with post count disabled'', ''Move them all to spam'' and ''Ban them altogether''. Any of those seems good.

[JerseySafety]

current one, or move to sub forum with post count disabled.

[Yawn]

only reason these threads are posted in is to increase post counts + tokens.
THATS NOT TRUE

only skandair is doing that and the whole issue lies with skandair and not these threads. IF A NEW FORUM IS MADE THEN THIS IS GOING TO BE A MESS AND THE FORUM WILL *DIE*

[AgnesIO]

THATS NOT TRUE

only skandair is doing that and the whole issue lies with skandair and not these threads. IF A NEW FORUM IS MADE THEN THIS IS GOING TO BE A MESS AND THE FORUM WILL *DIE*

Simple resolution. Create a new poll, with one option being to ban Skandair.

Case closed.

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[Aiden]

Simple resolution. Create a new poll, with one option being to ban Skandair.

Case closed.

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lmfao, bit late to catch on arnt u?

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778318

[AgnesIO]

lmfao, bit late to catch on arnt u?

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778318

I think it should be an official poll.

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[Aiden]

I think it should be an official poll.

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Unlikely :P

[Yawn]

1) sub forums r MESSY and not as easy to navigate and find threads

2) moving the bulk of the current forum activity to a sub forum is going to kill this current boom in activity

3) moving the bulk of the forum activity and thus killing it because of 1 user would obviously fairly stupid

if the new sub forum comes out on top in this poll (god forbid) im going to slash my wrists. u guys voting it r INSANE. u know wat i cant even believe these options r being considered its common sense

:boohoo: :frust:

im having a meltdown irl

[Kardan]

1) sub forums r MESSY and not as easy to navigate and find threads

2) moving the bulk of the current forum activity to a sub forum is going to kill this current boom in activity

3) moving the bulk of the forum activity and thus killing it because of 1 user would obviously fairly stupid

if the new sub forum comes out on top in this poll (god forbid) im going to slash my wrists. u guys voting it r INSANE. u know wat i cant even believe these options r being considered its common sense

:boohoo: :frust:

im having a meltdown irl

From all the people that have posted, it looks like 'Keeping it the same' is winning, but when 89 people have voted, and only 74 posts exist in this thread (and they're not unique :P) who knows. But I agree, sub-forums are awful. (And prefixes are the work of the devil...)

[Mr-Trainor]

1) sub forums r MESSY and not as easy to navigate and find threads

2) moving the bulk of the current forum activity to a sub forum is going to kill this current boom in activity

3) moving the bulk of the forum activity and thus killing it because of 1 user would obviously fairly stupid

if the new sub forum comes out on top in this poll (god forbid) im going to slash my wrists. u guys voting it r INSANE. u know wat i cant even believe these options r being considered its common sense

:boohoo: :frust:

im having a meltdown irl
Couldn't agree more in regards to the sub forum. I find the Bugs/Bobba/Errors&Glitches hard to navigate because it's in 3 sub forums.

[Zelda]

1) sub forums r MESSY and not as easy to navigate and find threads

2) moving the bulk of the current forum activity to a sub forum is going to kill this current boom in activity

3) moving the bulk of the forum activity and thus killing it because of 1 user would obviously fairly stupid

if the new sub forum comes out on top in this poll (god forbid) im going to slash my wrists. u guys voting it r INSANE. u know wat i cant even believe these options r being considered its common sense

:boohoo: :frust:

im having a meltdown irl

completely agree with everything you said there ngl.

as luke has said the bobba scams etc subforums are a nightmare especially when trying to post a thread especially cause it's hard to like work out which one it belongs in of the 3 sometimes

[karter]

there should be an option of deport and execute the o.p too

[e5]

Keep the threads. They're banterous and just funny to reply to. They're doing no harm, increasing activity in that forum if anything.

[Matthew]

Keep the threads. They're banterous and just funny to reply to. They're doing no harm, increasing activity in that forum if anything.

But some of them just go a little too far IMO..

Like the coco pops one lmao

[e5]

Yeah, some can be a little over the top, but I don't think all were. Some actually did bring discussion haha. Like my farts thread

But some of them just go a little too far IMO..

Like the coco pops one lmao

[HarrySX]

I didn't read all 8 pages (sorry) but this shouldn't even be a poll. A forum is all about user-generated content and the direction a forum heads in is dictated by its user base. If the users want to create these threads and people participate them then clearly they're wanted. If they weren't, they'd have died down.

[Matthew]

Yeah, some can be a little over the top, but I don't think all were. Some actually did bring discussion haha. Like my farts thread

I suppose they did yeah.

The poll results are interesting so we'll see ;)

[Nick]

I think that they should just stay where ever they are posted but if they are ridiculous like the coco pops then they should be moved.

[AgnesIO]

To people saying it shows they are wanted..

Stick them in a forum with no post count. See if they are still wanted.

If they are, then people are not posting in them to spam and get post count. If people stop posting in them, it will be obvious that people didn't really want to post in them in the first place.

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[Mr-Trainor]

To people saying it shows they are wanted..

Stick them in a forum with no post count. See if they are still wanted.

If they are, then people are not posting in them to spam and get post count. If people stop posting in them, it will be obvious that people didn't really want to post in them in the first place.

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The current rules will already ensure that the truely pointless ones (coco pops :P) are moved to Spam (which has no post count) so there's no need for another non-post count forum, imo :).

[Chippiewill]

But some of them just go a little too far IMO..

Like the coco pops one lmao

It's the only serious thread out of all of them!

[Yawn]

who even cares about post count and tokens not me

[Kardan]

who even cares about post count and tokens not me
Skandair;

[Aiden]

Skandair;

I don't care about tokens..

[Kardan]

I don't care about tokens..

But you do care about post count...

[AgnesIO]

I don't care about tokens..

Just post count, then.

[Aiden]

But you do care about post count...

Yes, anything wrong with that? It's like an achievement score for a forum lmfao

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Just post count, then.

Post count just, then.

[AgnesIO]

Yes, anything wrong with that? It's like an achievement score for a forum lmfao

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Post count just, then.

Nothing wrong with liking post count. It becomes wrong when users spam the forum to gain it.

[Kardan]

Yes, anything wrong with that? It's like an achievement score for a forum lmfao

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Post count just, then.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong, I'm just saying people do care about post count, when many, many people have said 'But nobody cares about post count' in the past :P

[Aiden]

Nothing wrong with liking post count. It becomes wrong when users spam the forum to gain it.

It's not wrong though lol? It might be disliked but not wrong... it to say its spam ,it hasnt been moved to spam section much lmfao

[Catchy]

jus remove postcount problem solved lol

[xxMATTGxx]

Just a reminder that the poll closes today at 20:35 BST (GMT+1)

[Aiden]

"Don't change anything and let them continue" mhmm, the users voted ;)

[xxMATTGxx]

The poll has now closed and results are in. The one with the most votes is:

"Don't change anything and let them continue"

[Chippiewill]

Actually only 41/103 people wanted them to stay outright. In reality the vote against the threads was split. Therefore the vote was inconclusive though it does seem to imply primarily moving them to spam. However without full voting data it is impossible to tell.

[MKR&*42]

Well everyone who said "move them to..." or "let them continue" must have felt they had something to add to the forum and weren't entirely pointless. So all those added together = 107 and the final two combined = 61.

It would have been much better with a simple "keep them" or "get rid of them" poll because then you couldn't really argue over what the best thing to do is.

[Chippiewill]

Well everyone who said "move them to..." or "let them continue" must have felt they had something to add to the forum and weren't entirely pointless. So all those added together = 107 and the final two combined = 61.

It would have been much better with a simple "keep them" or "get rid of them" poll because then you couldn't really argue over what the best thing to do is.
Yeah.. adding them together won't work.

[Chippiewill]

Matt's given me some additional data on who voted what so I can do some better analysis on this. Twenty-nine people voted for "Don't change anything and let them continue" and did not vote for anything else. Since only 40% voted with that intention we can take the natural step of eliminating that as a viable option.

When those 29 people are added to the least controversial alternative (aka their likely voting intention if they could not vote to keep them), sub-forum with post count ENABLED, it leaves that as 61 people or 59% happiest (When a change is required) with the threads moved to a sub-forum with post count enabled.

The cross section of removing them altogether, moving them to spam or sub-forum by themselves is too similar for any of those to be a viable alternative over sub-forum with post count enabled.

The natural conclusion here would be to declare sub-forum with post count enabled as the victor. The real loser here is the FPTP system which is clearly demonstrated as unworkable. Clearly Habbox needs to move to a STV system.

[AgnesIO]

Actually only 41/103 people wanted them to stay outright. In reality the vote against the threads was split. Therefore the vote was inconclusive though it does seem to imply primarily moving them to spam. However without full voting data it is impossible to tell.

Correct


"Don't change anything and let them continue" mhmm, the users voted ;)

Little bit of logic goes a long way, kid.


The poll has now closed and results are in. The one with the most votes is:

"Don't change anything and let them continue"

I assume you are not actually going with that?

Don't change anything and let them continue; 41 votes
Move them to a sub-forum either with or without post count enabled; 66

The next stage should be a poll for a EITHER post count enabled or disabled sub forum, as evidently the most popular option is for them to be moved? :S

[Chippiewill]

Don't change anything and let them continue; 41 votes
Move them to a sub-forum either with or without post count enabled; 66

The next stage should be a poll for a EITHER post count enabled or disabled sub forum, as evidently the most popular option is for them to be moved? :S

False. You CANNOT add the sub-forum totals together. The number of people who voted for either was too high. Having looked at who individually voted for what it HEAVILY implies that post count with post count enabled is favoured by far.

[MKR&*42]

Yeah.. adding them together won't work.

As a question to your post below, how did only 29 people vote for don't change anything when the poll results say 41? Am I missing something? :P

[AgnesIO]

False. You CANNOT add the sub-forum totals together. The number of people who voted for either was too high. Having looked at who individually voted for what it HEAVILY implies that post count with post count enabled is favoured by far.

But 62 INDIVIDUAL people MUST have picked one of the top four - which all ask for them to NOT stay as they are.

[Chippiewill]

As a question to your post below, how did only 29 people vote for don't change anything when the poll results say 41? Am I missing something? :P

29 of those 41 voted for JUST 'Stay as they are' and nothing else, therefore if it is eliminated as an option their votes would *normally* be lost. HOWEVER, I made the assumption (A fairly good one) that if they had to pick something else that they'd pick sub-forum with post count enabled. Therefore I essentially did a naughty AV vote and moved their votes to sub-forum with post count enabled which lands it with 61 people who would like it as an option.


But 62 INDIVIDUAL people MUST have picked one of the top four - which all ask for them to NOT stay as they are.
Yes, and looking at the data most people would have voted for sub forum with post count enabled if they could not have it stay as is.

[Mr-Trainor]

That doesn't change the fact that "Don't change anything and let them continue" was the most popular option, as it received the most votes. Like I've said already, I really don't think anything needs to be done anyway and so I'm not really surprised that that was the option which received the most votes. There are already rules in place to deal with threads have no point and that really need to be dealt with, not to mention the problems with differentiating between a 'fast' thread and a 'normal' thread because of a difference of opinion which could cause arguments. So yeah, I still stand by my vote that nothing big like a sub forum needs to be done.

[AgnesIO]

That doesn't change the fact that "Don't change anything and let them continue" was the most popular option, as it received the most votes. Like I've said already, I really don't think anything needs to be done anyway and so I'm not really surprised that that was the option which received the most votes. There are already rules in place to deal with threads have no point and that really need to be dealt with, not to mention the problems with differentiating between a 'fast' thread and a 'normal' thread because of a difference of opinion which could cause arguments. So yeah, I still stand by my vote that nothing big like a sub forum needs to be done.

But more people voted that they didn't want them left as they are..

62 people voted one of the top four options, 41 people voted the keep them as they are option.

If you ask 100 people to pick fruit and 41 people pick Apple's, you cannot then say that more people selected an Apple than all the other fruits put together. For the final option to work, you would have to have 51 people or more to vote for it. Or in the poll example, you'd need a minimum of 52 people to vote for them to stay as they are.

[Mr-Trainor]

But more people voted that they didn't want them left as they are..

62 people voted one of the top four options, 41 people voted the keep them as they are option.

If you ask 100 people to pick fruit and 41 people pick Apple's, you cannot then say that more people selected an Apple than all the other fruits put together. For the final option to work, you would have to have 51 people or more to vote for it. Or in the poll example, you'd need a minimum of 52 people to vote for them to stay as they are.
This was a multiple choice poll though :P.

[AgnesIO]

This was a multiple choice poll though :P.

Indeed but the results show a MAXIMUM of 41 people voted to keep them as they are, whereas a MINIMUM of 62 people voted to have them moved/removed.

[Kardan]

All the people that are debating the poll results are just kidding right? It was a multiple choice poll, everyone could vote for any option they thought was right, and it is clear which option won.

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Indeed but the results show a MAXIMUM of 41 people voted to keep them as they are, whereas a MINIMUM of 62 people voted to have them moved/removed.

Also worth noting that some of the 41 people are also some of the 62 people. And I'm afraid the thread poll wasn't 'Keep them' vs 'Have them moved/removed', if it was, you might have a case :P

And in that case, we best make the government non-conservative, because more people voted non-conservative than conservative.

The government should be formed by an independent candidate in a very small constituency then, considering they will have a large percentage of votes towards them, then votes against them, since the majority of the country didn't vote for them.

[Yawn]

right u all listen here closely.

1) this poll was stupid and pointless in the 1st place

2) keep them as they r wins so shut up. it was multiple choice anyway so have several seats and move on with ur habbox lives. this alleged 62 of u or w/e wanting change couldnt even vote for the same damn option so u all want diff things so lol at u!!!! lol!!! keep it the same wins loL!!!!!!!!!!

[Chippiewill]

This was a multiple choice poll though :P.

If you ask 100 people to pick fruit and 41 people pick Apple's, you cannot then say that more people selected an Apple than all the other fruits put together. For the final option to work, you would have to have 51 people or more to vote for it. Or in the poll example, you'd need a minimum of 52 people to vote for them to stay as they are.

Almost. Imagine a (non multi choice) poll with the following options:

Apple (Granny Smith) - 25 votes
Apple (Braeburn) - 26 votes
Apple (Gala) - 25 votes
Orange - 30 votes

You would not then declare the orange as the most popular fruit, you'd declare the apple with the Braeburn being the most popular variety.

Now of course our poll was multiple choice so instead we have the following data:

Apple (Granny Smith) - 25 votes
Apple (Braeburn) - 26 votes
Apple (Gala) - 25 votes
Orange - 30 votes

Total Unique voters: 61. Now we can deductively reason that:

Only 30/61 of those liked oranges
AT LEAST 31/61 of those liked Apples. Therefore the Apples won, we don't know which variety but we know they won. This is the situation we're in right now, less than 50% of people actually want them to stay despite the fact that it's the most popular option.

The people of the other side of the fence will settle in reality for ANYTHING that's not orange but did not explicitly express this. So Oranges are not an option to consider.

What we now discover is that of the apples, most people who liked just Orange would like Granny Smiths the most, if they had to eat an Apple. So what we can now do is take all of the people who voted for Orange and NOTHING ELSE and say they would vote for Granny Smith and move their votes to there, this is of course to determine the most popular of the Apples.

As it turns out, 25 of those who voted for Orange voted for nothing else, this leaves the Granny Smith apple at 50 votes, well above all of the others. Therefore it is the most agreeable option.

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I have done this with data that Matt has given me:

Subforum with Postcount Enabled: 32 (31%)
Subforum with Postcount Disabled: 34 (33%)
Move them to spam: 36 (35%)
Ban them altogether: 20 (19%)
Leave them as they are: 41 (40%) (29 voted as sole option)
Total 103

Clearly, Leaving them as they are as an overarching option was not the most popular. We can regard it as never a viable option for those on the other side of the fence and since it lost we can remove it entirely. People who voted for JUST Leave them as they are AND NOTHING ELSE, all 29 of them, get their votes moved to their most favorable alternative (Despite being a generalisation) of Subforum with Postcount Enabled. This leaves us with this picture instead:

Subforum with Postcount Enabled: 61 (59%)
Subforum with Postcount Disabled: 34 (33%)
Move them to spam: 36 (35%)
Ban them altogether: 20 (19%)
Total 103

It is painfully obvious now that Subforum with postcount enabled is the least controversial of ALL of the options.

Whilst this is not incredibly precise, without doing another poll with 'leave them as they are' and 'banned altogether' removed (Which Undertaker would immediately criticise for being too like the EU) this is the best we have.

[Kardan]

Please tell me you're trolling Chippiewill; :P

For everyone's benefit, Habbox has always picked the option with the most votes when it is a community poll. And you have to look at the option with the most votes because it was multiple choice. It allowed me to pick my first and 2nd picks :P So you should go with the one with the most votes :)

[Chippiewill]

Please tell me you're trolling Chippiewill; :P

For everyone's benefit, Habbox has always picked the option with the most votes when it is a community poll. And you have to look at the option with the most votes because it was multiple choice. It allowed me to pick my first and 2nd picks :P So you should go with the one with the most votes :)

False.

[Kardan]

False.

Well, your argument is false really. Yes, Orange probably wouldn't be voted as most favourite if you looked into the stats, but if you are asked 'Which out of these options would you like' NOT 'Which fruit is your favourite', then Orange does win.

In this poll we were asked which of these choices would we like to happen, we were not asked 'Would you like them moved or not'.

Plus, you are only considering the multiple choice votes within the last option aren't you? 41 people picked the last and winning option, but you say only 29 of those people solely picked that option?

Then how many people solely picked the other options? I know I picked option 2, so that definitely doesn't have 34 unique votes, and I would be surprised if any of the other options have 29+ unique votes beating the winning option. (And the fact is, we don't even need to look at unique votes, if we did, the poll wouldn't have been set up for multiple choice).

Plus, looking at unique votes is pointless, since everyone who voted multiple options may have had preferences that wouldn't be taken into account. I voted for Option 2 and 5, but would prefer 5 over 2. You can't tell everyone's preferences in the poll.

TL;DR - Poll is done. It's clear who the winner is. People that are debating it really are just wanting their option to win :P (Although I'm sure you were an option 5 voter, I'll have to read through the thread again :P)

[Chippiewill]

The poll was conclusive in demonstrating that people didn't want them to stay as is. The middle ground is clearly changing them in some way. How is this not obvious?

[Phil]

Either way the post count will be included if it stays where it is or in a sub-forum with post count enabled so I really don't see why this argument is taking place?

[Chippiewill]

Either way the post count will be included if it stays where it is or in a sub-forum with post count enabled so I really don't see why this argument is taking place?

By moving them into a sub forum it leaves discuss anything open to some proper discussion.

[Phil]

By moving them into a sub forum it leaves discuss anything open to some proper discussion.

But this would shift almost all of the discussion in that forum into the sub-forum. Discussion isn't very ongoing in the Discuss Anything forum right now and these so called 'fast threads' is what's keeping it alive. I didn't notice it so much before but now that I'm moderating that section, I can see it's not very active at all

[Chippiewill]

But this would shift almost all of the discussion in that forum into the sub-forum. Discussion isn't very ongoing in the Discuss Anything forum right now and these so called 'fast threads' is what's keeping it alive. I didn't notice it so much before but now that I'm moderating that section, I can see it's not very active at all
When post your threads were moved to a post count disabled forum in the past the number of posts dropped for the first week, but after that the number of posts recovered because more discussion went on in better threads.

[The Don]

Chippiewill; stop being childish. The poll is over and the most popular choice is to leave them as they are. There isn't any more discussion to be had since they've been moved before to a different subforum which turned out to be a failure and more importantly, more people are in favour of it staying.

[Chippiewill]

Chippiewill; stop being childish. The poll is over and the most popular choice is to leave them as they are. There isn't any more discussion to be had since they've been moved before to a different subforum which turned out to be a failure and more importantly, more people are in favour of it staying.

It's not childish, It's a fundamental misreading of the results. More people are in favour of it moving than it staying.

[The Don]

It's not childish, It's a fundamental misreading of the results. More people are in favour of it moving than it staying.

it was a multiple choice poll so if people were so adamant about moving the threads they would have done what you did and voted for every other option, but they didn't. Catch-22, even if you win you still lose as chippiewill will find loopholes to get his own way.

[Yawn]

if a thread is gd ppl will post in it. if its bad ppl wont post and it will flop down the forum to the bottom never to be seen again. chippiewill and the other boring ppl saying if a thread is gd in their opinion or not is irrelevant. no1 cares for ur opinion ur irrelevant and so are the other squares who want a subforum.

there is nothing stopping u making "proper discussion" in the discuss anything forum right now and this poll about fast threads makes no difference to proper discussion. u want proper discussion MAKE IT but we dont need to shift the entire forum about to suit that. if u make a discussion thread and it flops its cos ur thread isnt gd enough and no1 wants to post in it and nothing else (not that u ever make discussion threads so there is evidently no issue).

this all boils down to IF U LIKE A THREAD POST IN IT. IF U DONT LIKE IT DONT POST. this is common sense and wat ppl do anyway so there is no need to change anything :Innocent:

[RyRy]

Let them stay, end of the day it's just another thing to enforce. It's not breaking the forum really, and it's the start of restricting people doing things which will make them post less.

[Richie]

if a thread is gd ppl will post in it. if its bad ppl wont post and it will flop down the forum to the bottom never to be seen again. chippiewill and the other boring ppl saying if a thread is gd in their opinion or not is irrelevant. no1 cares for ur opinion ur irrelevant and so are the other squares who want a subforum.

there is nothing stopping u making "proper discussion" in the discuss anything forum right now and this poll about fast threads makes no difference to proper discussion. u want proper discussion MAKE IT but we dont need to shift the entire forum about to suit that. if u make a discussion thread and it flops its cos ur thread isnt gd enough and no1 wants to post in it and nothing else (not that u ever make discussion threads so there is evidently no issue).

this all boils down to IF U LIKE A THREAD POST IN IT. IF U DONT LIKE IT DONT POST. this is common sense and wat ppl do anyway so there is no need to change anything :Innocent:


Sure, proper discussion can be created but the whole argument is based around these 'pointless' threads pushing high quality threads down the page, which makes sense.

I just think people need to stop being ******* eejits and posting stupid threads constantly every 2 mins. I don't see why mods can't just warn those people who are blatantly spamming the forum, use your noggin.

If mods are incapable of using their discretion maybe a sub forum for these threads is the right way to go. If they can, keep the threads but warn those who are creating the threads just to be utter *****.

[buttons]

have u not noticed that the original person in question has stopped doing these threads. plus he actually only started posting more and more after chippiewill complained just to annoy him lol it has stopped yet there is still complaining..

no matter what, the fast threads eventually die out, its not like someone does it everyday. new people might come onto the forum and genuinely wanna know the answers to all these kinda questions, which is often the case with newbies posting many threads or threads which have been created time and time again. yeah its annoying but i don't think it's fair to start moving all their threads and confusing them for the sake of the likes of chippewill. it'll happen on every forum especially as this forum has the ability to post anything you like but they may not know where exactly to put the threads.

all the threads by trolls will cease to exist once people stop complaining about them or replying to them and they will also cease to exist once new members get the hang of the forum and want to post more 'quality' discussions. its really annoying to see new members posting threads to be told WE ONLY HAVE LIKE A MILLION OF THESE THREADS

[Aiden]

im not a troll :(

[Yawn]

Sure, proper discussion can be created but the whole argument is based around these 'pointless' threads pushing high quality threads down the page, which makes sense.

I just think people need to stop being ******* eejits and posting stupid threads constantly every 2 mins. I don't see why mods can't just warn those people who are blatantly spamming the forum, use your noggin.

If mods are incapable of using their discretion maybe a sub forum for these threads is the right way to go. If they can, keep the threads but warn those who are creating the threads just to be utter *****.
i think u were 1 of the ppl i was referencing. no1curr wat u think is a high quality thread evidently the best threads r the most popular 1s. u go make a thread that u think is of high quality and see the response. these threads pushing the other threads down r the 1s ppl want to post in. this is how a forum works. and dont give me pushing down BS cos i could say that ur discussion threads (jk they dont exist) were pushing down the fast threads. ppl stil have the ability to look down the threads and see which 1s they want to post in. fast threads r no more advantaged than discussion threads idk wtf ur talking about with pushing down that is moronic

as the queen of popularity (look at my +3 rep post on this page and hit threads) i feel that i speak for the masses and know wat the majority want (the cool ppl on this forum [not u]). i have hit the nail on the head with this topic. all these ppl who want intelligent discussion r clearly not that bright as they cannot seem 2 fathom how a forum works. it seems that u r jealous of ppl like myself that get hit threads and r trying 2 kill off the competition by reducing their post counts and tokens and move us to a subforum so u might just get a hit thread (still unlikely tbh). well how about we move all u bores off to a subforum so we not have 2 see ur horrible avis and unpopular threads??

http://i.minus.com/iMHi3ez0JSvOC.gif

[Richie]

i think u were 1 of the ppl i was referencing. no1curr wat u think is a high quality thread evidently the best threads r the most popular 1s. u go make a thread that u think is of high quality and see the response. these threads pushing the other threads down r the 1s ppl want to post in. this is how a forum works. and dont give me pushing down BS cos i could say that ur discussion threads (jk they dont exist) were pushing down the fast threads. ppl stil have the ability to look down the threads and see which 1s they want to post in. fast threads r no more advantaged than discussion threads idk wtf ur talking about with pushing down that is moronic

as the queen of popularity (look at my +3 rep post on this page and hit threads) i feel that i speak for the masses and know wat the majority want (the cool ppl on this forum [not u]). i have hit the nail on the head with this topic. all these ppl who want intelligent discussion r clearly not that bright as they cannot seem 2 fathom how a forum works. it seems that u r jealous of ppl like myself that get hit threads and r trying 2 kill off the competition by reducing their post counts and tokens and move us to a subforum so u might just get a hit thread (still unlikely tbh). well how about we move all u bores off to a subforum so we not have 2 see ur horrible avis and unpopular threads??

http://i.minus.com/iMHi3ez0JSvOC.gif


You're wrong, a lot of people just choose to post in those threads because it's a quick easy response to gain a post count or for whatever reason.

If you are honestly trying to argue that 'what colour is the tiles on your roof' is more popular than 'What inspires you the most to do something' because people find it more interesting.. god help us all.


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[Kardan]

You're wrong, a lot of people just choose to post in those threads because it's a quick easy response to gain a post count or for whatever reason.

If you are honestly trying to argue that 'what colour is the tiles on your roof' is more popular than 'What inspires you the most to do something' because people find it more interesting.. god help us all.


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To be fair, the 'What colour are the tiles on your roof' actually promoted discussion because some people didn't even know and had to think about it. There are some threads that are clearly spam-worthy and they should get moved there.

I would agree with you if the 'Don't post threads that generate little discussion' rule was enforced, but it hasn't been enforced since they removed the Assorted/Misc sub-forum. So these threads are allowed as long as they don't go off-topic.

[Yawn]

You're wrong, a lot of people just choose to post in those threads because it's a quick easy response to gain a post count or for whatever reason.

If you are honestly trying to argue that 'what colour is the tiles on your roof' is more popular than 'What inspires you the most to do something' because people find it more interesting.. god help us all.


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the tile thread was a troll thread and is 1 example. i fail to see any threads like that any more. there is nothing to argue about regarding popularity...if a thread is more popular its more popular and u will deal with that. its how a forum works and if a thread is more popular than another obviously more ppl want to post in it and the majority rules, sorry!

p.s. dont call me dumb when im smarter than (u severely lack common sense)

[Richie]

the tile thread was a troll thread and is 1 example. i fail to see any threads like that any more. there is nothing to argue about regarding popularity...if a thread is more popular its more popular and u will deal with that. its how a forum works

p.s. dont call me dumb when im smarter than (u severely lack common sense)

I would look for more examples but I don't fancy spending hours digging through heaps of rubbish to find another thread that was created that doesn't give the impression 'I have the IQ of a 2 year old'.

Like I said, I don't think these threads would be an issue if mods just warned those that are blatantly creating threads just out of annoyance.

I really don't know what to say to the last part of your response, too funny.

[Yawn]

I would look for more examples but I don't fancy spending hours digging through heaps of rubbish to find another thread that was created that doesn't give the impression 'I have the IQ of a 2 year old'.

Like I said, I don't think these threads would be an issue if mods just warned those that are blatantly creating threads just out of annoyance.

I really don't know what to say to the last part of your response, too funny.no1 is making excessive threads any more so there is no issue....u r complaining cos u dont like them so just dont post in them. v simple. the inspiration thread u mentioned, well that flopped cos its unbelievably boring and yes even a thread about wat colour ur tiles r is more interesting. there i said it.

[Richie]

no1 is making excessive threads any more so there is no issue....u r complaining cos u dont like them so just dont post in them. v simple. the inspiration thread u mentioned, well that flopped cos its unbelievably boring and yes even a thread about wat colour ur tiles r is more interesting. there i said it.

If that's what interests you then okay :D

[Yawn]

im glad u have accepted ppls difference of opinion and r no longer trying 2 devalue the fast threads cos ur jealous. we have come 2 realise that not every1 that posts in a thread that u dont like is trying 2 gain post count and that this thread is spam. gr8.

now for chippiewill who has gone strangely quiet despite frequently lurking the thread.

[AgnesIO]

Well, your argument is false really. Yes, Orange probably wouldn't be voted as most favourite if you looked into the stats, but if you are asked 'Which out of these options would you like' NOT 'Which fruit is your favourite', then Orange does win.

In this poll we were asked which of these choices would we like to happen, we were not asked 'Would you like them moved or not'.

Plus, you are only considering the multiple choice votes within the last option aren't you? 41 people picked the last and winning option, but you say only 29 of those people solely picked that option?

Then how many people solely picked the other options? I know I picked option 2, so that definitely doesn't have 34 unique votes, and I would be surprised if any of the other options have 29+ unique votes beating the winning option. (And the fact is, we don't even need to look at unique votes, if we did, the poll wouldn't have been set up for multiple choice).

Plus, looking at unique votes is pointless, since everyone who voted multiple options may have had preferences that wouldn't be taken into account. I voted for Option 2 and 5, but would prefer 5 over 2. You can't tell everyone's preferences in the poll.

TL;DR - Poll is done. It's clear who the winner is. People that are debating it really are just wanting their option to win :P (Although I'm sure you were an option 5 voter, I'll have to read through the thread again :P)

Sorry, Kardan but I thought you were more intelligent than this lol. The poll was fundamentally flawed (on reflection). Let's put it this way, if you ask a question with ONE option to keep them as they are or FOUR options to have them moved elsewhere, then everyone who wants them to stay as they are only has ONE choice, whereas the others have FOUR choices, meaning those votes will be more spread out.

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Honestly I have lost interest in if they are moved or not, but it is ridiculous to pull the wool over your eyes when basic statistics shows that keeping them as they are is not the most popular option.

[Kardan]

Sorry, Kardan but I thought you were more intelligent than this lol. The poll was fundamentally flawed (on reflection). Let's put it this way, if you ask a question with ONE option to keep them as they are or FOUR options to have them moved elsewhere, then everyone who wants them to stay as they are only has ONE choice, whereas the others have FOUR choices, meaning those votes will be more spread out.

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Honestly I have lost interest in if they are moved or not, but it is ridiculous to pull the wool over your eyes when basic statistics shows that keeping them as they are is not the most popular option.

That would be true except for one important thing, the poll was multiple choice. If someone's priority was "I want them moved from where they are now" they would tick the 4 options that would do that. We've been over this so many times now :P

[AgnesIO]

That would be true except for one important thing, the poll was multiple choice. If someone's priority was "I want them moved from where they are now" they would tick the 4 options that would do that. We've been over this so many times now :P

I wanted them moved from where they are now, but ticked the options I deemed most suitable? As I said before it should be a "move" "don't move" question.

It may be multiple choice, but not all of us looked at it in that way..

[Kardan]

I wanted them moved from where they are now, but ticked the options I deemed most suitable? As I said before it should be a "move" "don't move" question.

It may be multiple choice, but not all of us looked at it in that way..

Well whose fault is that? Certainly not the poll creator :P It was perfectly clear that it was multiple choice...

And it wasn't a 'Don't move/Move' poll, and why should it be? Why not a 'Post count enable/disabled' poll?

Basically, people are questioning the poll after the results are released (and not before!) and the people complaining are people that didn't pick the winning option...

[AgnesIO]

Well whose fault is that? Certainly not the poll creator :P It was perfectly clear that it was multiple choice...

And it wasn't a 'Don't move/Move' poll, and why should it be? Why not a 'Post count enable/disabled' poll?

Basically, people are questioning the poll after the results are released (and not before!) and the people complaining are people that didn't pick the winning option...

If the results were not hidden during the poll and people suggested one was winning when it technically wasn't I would have pointed out the flaw.

Check my response to Chris in spam - that makes it nice and simple to work out.

If you give people four options for yes and one option no, then statistically the no option will appear the most popular.

[Kardan]

If the results were not hidden during the poll and people suggested one was winning when it technically wasn't I would have pointed out the flaw.

Check my response to Chris in spam - that makes it nice and simple to work out.

If you give people four options for yes and one option no, then statistically the no option will appear the most popular.

In a single choice poll, that could very well be the case. In a multiple choice poll, people would go 'Well, I say yes, so I'll have all the yes options'...

Third time lucky though, the poll question was not 'Do you want these threads moved'

[AgnesIO]

In a single choice poll, that could very well be the case. In a multiple choice poll, people would go 'Well, I say yes, so I'll have all the yes options'...

Third time lucky though, the poll question was not 'Do you want these threads moved'

... but four of the answers were effectively yes and one was no..

It is ridiculous to ask people what they want to happen to them and then say well they had to vote all the yes options whether they wanted it or not.

For example, I didn't want them to be banned altogether - that would be ridiculous, and I therefore didn't vote for it..

[Kardan]

... but four of the answers were effectively yes and one was no..

It is ridiculous to ask people what they want to happen to them and then say well they had to vote all the yes options whether they wanted it or not.

For example, I didn't want them to be banned altogether - that would be ridiculous, and I therefore didn't vote for it..

There isn't four 'yes' options, as you can't answer 'yes' to 'What do you want to happen to these threads'.

And you need to realise, we were not asked 'Do you want these threads to be moved' anywhere, so stop getting so hung up about that :P

You felt like they had to be moved to a new sub-forum, so you ticked all the options that applied to you.

If someone felt like moving the threads to anywhere but where they were currently, they would have ticked the options that applied to them (1,2,3,4).

[AgnesIO]

There isn't four 'yes' options, as you can't answer 'yes' to 'What do you want to happen to these threads'.

And you need to realise, we were not asked 'Do you want these threads to be moved' anywhere, so stop getting so hung up about that :P

You felt like they had to be moved to a new sub-forum, so you ticked all the options that applied to you.

If someone felt like moving the threads to anywhere but where they were currently, they would have ticked the options that applied to them (1,2,3,4).

I would have them banned or moved to spam before I kept them as they are - but I chose the options that would be preferential lol

AT the end of the day, there were four yes options - as in, four options that asked for them to be changed from what they are now - 62 people voted for them to NOT stay the same, 41 asked for them to stay the same lol

[Kardan]

I would have them banned or moved to spam before I kept them as they are - but I chose the options that would be preferential lol

AT the end of the day, there were four yes options - as in, four options that asked for them to be changed from what they are now - 62 people voted for them to NOT stay the same, 41 asked for them to stay the same lol

In 2005, only 35% of the country voted for Blair to be Prime Minister. 65% didn't. What do we do there?

[AgnesIO]

In 2005, only 35% of the country voted for Blair to be Prime Minister. 65% didn't. What do we do there?

Didn't you yourself say we are not doing it by a FPTP system.

However, yes that is indeed a criticism of the FPTP system that is covered with AS Level Politics students - that you need little of the vote to succeed.

Thanks for posting that flaw out though! ;)

[Mr-Trainor]

I think people are just overcomplicating this tbh. The option which received the most votes out of all five options was to keep them as they are, and so that is what should be done. In fact, that's what should have just been done in the first place imo :P. The only thing I will say though, is that the results for all options are quite close really.