Habboxlive suggestion

[Richie]

I'm just brain storming here & this could be a complete flop but then again it could work. I was watching a few livestreams on twitch.tv the other day and I realized how popular some of the streams are, obviously viewer rating will vary depending on your personality & the game you play. Anyway, I was browsing through the games directory and just out of curiosity I typed in habbo and surprisingly they actually have a directory for habbo streams, there isn't any habbo livestreams currently but surely if there's a directory for it twitch believe the game could bring in a fair amount of viewers.

The radio is dying, it has been for a long time & sure you can try to continue to encourage staff to come up with unique ideas but the reality is, after six or so years there's only so much you can come up with. Personally I think trying something along these lines may open many new doors. I'm sure there's some aspects of this that'll be flawed but there's always trial and error.

I don't know what it is that keeps people so zoned into streams, heck I don't even know why I watch them. It sounds a bit strange saying you can stream habbo partys / events etc but if you can stream runescape, you can stream anything. Those who play runescape will know how boring it is to string millions of yew longs in the game & if people watch that then they could be entertained by watching paint dry.. or watching few people doing the pogo mogo in a party room..

The stream is basically the radio plus other features.

Some things you can do:

Still play music using Sam Broadcaster
Stream your screen / habbo / djing software
DJ says / other comments can be displayed on video
The use of webcams if djs wanted to do challenges with one another etc
Twitch don't have any rules about streaming music so if PPLUK ever go back onto habbox, you'd be safe.


Those are just off the top of my head. There's just so many more opportunities that the radio can't offer. If people don't want to watch, they can still listen. I think it'd be hilarious to have something like internet innuendo bingo with older presenters / those who feel confident enough to do it or something like that in general, maybe as a weekly thing? it'd be far more interesting than listening to someone tell me the name of every other song.

I know there's flaws but it could always be tested weekly by management or something, see how it goes. I dunno, I just thought I'd suggest this as its a bit sad seeing it all go down the loo (no offence to current staff). Good luck with it anyway.


ciaoooo

[Calum0812]

While it sounds like a good idea, would DJs be willing to "put themselves out there" so much? I'm not sure. I don't think the good old radio we all know is going to be going anywhere anytime soon.
James1216; harpymonet; XxZammyxX; Foregetfuhl; :Markster:;

[lemons]

sounds better than current habboxlive, do it do it

or maybe make it a one off thing like every saturday night?? dnno

[sex]

i don't think habbo would be happy in letting fansites broadcast users on webcam lol.
hffm's radio seems quite popular (i tune int it way more than habbox, so do a lot it seems) because it's just better... i dunno what it is. they have better djs, music quality and songs.. maybe hx should try improve on that

i swear to god everytime i tune into habbox i hear ******* abba.......no one except a few freaks at habbox want to hear that lol

also if dj's are broadcasting their screens they would probably have to watch what the say and make sure not to ***** about anyone

[Grig]

While it sounds like a good idea, would DJs be willing to "put themselves out there" so much? I'm not sure. I don't think the good old radio we all know is going to be going anywhere anytime soon.

The exact complacent attitude that won't get HabboxLive anywhere.

[Calum0812]

The exact complacent attitude that won't get HabboxLive anywhere.
I'm pointing out what I see happening. And that is that the normal radio will stay.
I don't see us migrating to Twitch.
I'm not being complacent. Just stating my thoughts.

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sounds better than current habboxlive, do it do it

or maybe make it a one off thing like every saturday night?? dnno
This is however a good idea.

[Richie]

i don't think habbo would be happy in letting fansites broadcast users on webcam lol.
hffm's radio seems quite popular (i tune int it way more than habbox, so do a lot it seems) because it's just better... i dunno what it is. they have better djs, music quality and songs.. maybe hx should try improve on that

i swear to god everytime i tune into habbox i hear ******* abba.......no one except a few freaks at habbox want to hear that lol

also if dj's are broadcasting their screens they would probably have to watch what the say and make sure not to ***** about anyone


The radio quality seems different, they have better settings in place. The design alone gives the radio more of a 'community feel' or something, habboxlives current layout is older than me. I don't know why hxl djs don't take advantage of the equalizer settings in Sam 4, quality sounds better when it's adjusted correctly.

[sex]

The radio quality seems different, they have better settings in place. The design alone gives the radio more of a 'community feel' or something, habboxlives current layout is older than me. I don't know why hxl djs don't take advantage of the equalizer settings in Sam 4, quality sounds better when it's adjusted correctly.

yeah cause i'm not only one who notices it but constantly told by staff "nope its the same, maybe even better at habbox" then the subject is changed to how hffm fix their listeners when i really doubt they do

also some of the hx djs dont even know how to use sam... one turned up the pitch for like 20mins of his show instead of volume and it felt like i was listening to alvin and the chipmunks dj

[Inseriousity.]

I would be wary of webcams (we're not Jas) and having it as a permanent thing but streaming big events or something is a possibility. As for unique ideas I disagree, the whole point of something being unique is that it doesn't matter if it's been 6 years if it's unique no-one else has considered doing it. In this sense then this idea is a unique idea so does sorta contradict your point there!

[lemons]

if habboxlive wants to be successful it will have to do spam giveaways like TH and HFFM sorry x

[Richie]

Inseriousity.; have the djs started to stream 128kb/s in mono?

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sex; Not sure if they faked listeners in the past but their listeners atm are legit http://sc.hffm.co.uk:8080/

[MKR&*42]

I don't know why you bother keep making these threads Richie, nothing ever improves. The only good thing recently is the fact there are at least a few weekly shows :P

Where did "the vault" go cause that was a brilliant event hosted by HxL, last time someone asked they kept getting the same reason "it's coming back soon".

[Rachel]

@Inseriousity. (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=26409); have the djs started to stream 128kb/s in mono?



We stream at 128kb/s stereo. Why mono?


As for the idea, I am not sure that sulake will allow this as it was mentioned and I don`t think every djs would want to be viewed on cam or whatever it is. I do like the idea but the people who will enforce this is senior management and management. Now the question is, will this be beneficial for the radio team? I don`t really see how this can improve the radio but we can always give it a go.

I know some may think Calum is not giving a good attitude towards habboxlive on his post but that`s his opinion. He is not being negative just over looking what the team has become over the few months. Yes the radio popularity is not like before and I do agree in that part but judging every single DJ that we currently have is not very nice. This is not a professional radio and we do not have professional DJs but they do succeed in what they want to do (well those who try to succeed and works hard for their current job). I think you cannot judge a DJ if you haven`t even tuned in. You need to give these djs a chance and maybe give them useful tips but not in a rude way but in a constructive way.

We do our best to give what listeners wants and you can`t expect us to be perfect. Now I do hope that this month or so will be better but we have to understand that some has exams and cant be on air till the 10th of june (latest).


What I can tell you I am proud of the djs we have here well those who are working hard and dj often ofcourse and I do not regret having them on the Hxl team. If you have any ideas or tips then do give your tips and the radio management and senior management then they can over look the ideas and tips given.

[Foregetfuhl]

I wasn't here the last time the vault was hosted so I have no idea how it was run or in what way it was run. The radio still runs at 128 but I myself do agree that some DJs need sorting out in regards to quality and a lot of them have received multiple PMs and warnings in regards to this.

I doubt people would want to appear on webcam and even if they did i don't know how Habbo would react if they knew we did do something like that? I know the HxL website is incredibly old but I can't code a whole new site and it is obvious that they feel that v7 will come and we will be merged with that so they don't really see the point in improving HabboxLive as much as I wish it could. Weekly Shows are making a serious come back at the moment and we are deciding on names, times etc. at the moment so that we don't have say... five in one day.

HFFM and TH don't fix their listeners that much, they just show their non-unique listeners which lets be honest is only a few numbers off here and there. We have created a giveaway account which Senior+ are encouraged to use but after a problem we had with ex-HxL staff myself and Mark are a bit wary of letting them on the account.

I think when Mark comes back from being away we need to have a serious sit down and talk about each individual member of staff but at the moment I am finalising dates for events we have coming next month as well as hoping to sort out something with the events staff whenever they feel is right for them as well. It's just one of them things that at the moment a lot of DJs have resigned due to the work/college/school commitments and it is incredibly difficult. I just hope providing we keep pushing it will improve again.

[MKR&*42]

I wasn't here the last time the vault was hosted so I have no idea how it was run or in what way it was run..

Ask iLogan; @Jazz (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=75795);/@California;/@Wigan;/@Maggots; (idk her name) and I can't recall the final host.

FGS LOGAN WHAT IS YOUR NAME
iLogan.;
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Ye i tag failed.

[wixard]

with regards to individual dj quality maybe stop being such mugs when picking trialists, if someone has a low quality mic/not that great sample clip they send in or whatever just don't give them a trial? don't understand how certain people receive trials when they or their mic are rubbish

[Grig]

The Vault is brilliant. The way Adzeh did it back in 2006, was it was basically you needed to guess a code to crack the vault and sometimes it would be done throughout the week and culminates in a final show or it's done on the show itself.

[Richie]

I shouldn't have mentioned the webcam, that was just a suggestion. Everyone seems to think that's the core of this idea, there's still a lot you can do without a webcam, the suggestions I gave were just additional features that the radio could have if they wanted it.


@Foregetfuhl (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=104248); You can definitelly tell the difference between this dj (Jack) and the last one (Dave), this sounds much better & they both have the same bitrate. So I'm not sure if some are using mono / others aren't or others are taking advantage of the eq settings in sam 4 & others aren't, its one or the other. Also the radio lags bad during changeovers, I'd delay the radio or ask presenters to be more alert when switching over. I know they aren't professional presenters but jeez a simple changeover isn't difficult, it's literally start and stop. I remember people would get warned if they did bad changeovers, is that rule still around? Just an example, 26 listeners to 4 because of a poor changeover. In the radios defence habbo / habbox has gone downhill all together but still, small things like poor changeovers do make a difference, well for me anyway.

[e5]

Just tuned in quickly to hffm after reading this thread and have to say the current DJ on now, its jolly, lively, not hesitant, plays good music and the bits between songs like advertising the radio are professional and there isn't a big gap between songs when she talks, although it's nice when she talks as it's not rubbish.

If I am honest, I don't really tune into Habbox, I think sometimes its the music, but I haven't listened to every DJ to make a fair comment... I think the big thing for Habbox back in the day was when 'popular' Habbo's were DJs such as Mizki, but difficult to get that now. This could be worth a shot as a weekly thing.

[Jazz]

Its all depends on certain factors, the DJ being primary the software quality etc. As good as that idea is, I think Sulake will have something to say about it. If not then the Habbox haters will use it as an excuse to report habbox to Sulake! Streams are actually quite cool, and I would probably watch them if there was an interesting DJ on.


Streams are strangly entertaining, but I only watch Youtuber streams.



(we're not Jas)


Oooooo put your handbag down there Mike, but pmsl.



if habboxlive wants to be successful it will have to do spam giveaways like TH and HFFM sorry x


If Habboxlive started having spam giveaways that would be the dog crap on the tombstone. The only reason I listen to Habbox over the other big fansites is because some of the DJ's are on the radio because they arent always licking behinds



Ask @iLogan; @Jazz;/@California;/@Wigan;/@Maggots; (idk her name) and I can't recall the final host.


My name is Jazz hi, it was me, logan, kristina and emma till everyone got fired or resigned etc.
I would like to see the vault back, but not as wired up as @ilogan made it (I spent one day stacking over 300 wired furni's, because logan didnt want his weave getting dislodged). I was talking to jade a couple of days ago about another event similar to the vault where we could incorporate the vault into a 7 seven 'gameshow' but I never got to explain it through because of yet another hxl argument.

Its sad to see that HabboxLive is dropping slightly off the radar, a lot of the other fansites are doing these very good radio events and have a good on-client event basis to go with it. I've gotta say, that I have lost some respect for the department since I left its opened my eyes and everytime I make any kind of suggestion or comment about the department I get the little lap dogs yapping and biting my ankles.

[Reality]

For 1) this is against any Habbo legalization with "Webcamers"
2) No DJ is going to want to go on cam whilst DJING, DJing is what we do not strip shows!

I don't think this will be happening anytime soon and I don't hope it will the radio may have it's downs and ups but over all the dept. and it's stable community are nice how it is why change the radio as we know it into some virtual electronic fakery.
I'm just brain storming here & this could be a complete flop but then again it could work. I was watching a few livestreams on twitch.tv the other day and I realized how popular some of the streams are, obviously viewer rating will vary depending on your personality & the game you play. Anyway, I was browsing through the games directory and just out of curiosity I typed in habbo and surprisingly they actually have a directory for habbo streams, there isn't any habbo livestreams currently but surely if there's a directory for it twitch believe the game could bring in a fair amount of viewers.

The radio is dying, it has been for a long time & sure you can try to continue to encourage staff to come up with unique ideas but the reality is, after six or so years there's only so much you can come up with. Personally I think trying something along these lines may open many new doors. I'm sure there's some aspects of this that'll be flawed but there's always trial and error.

I don't know what it is that keeps people so zoned into streams, heck I don't even know why I watch them. It sounds a bit strange saying you can stream habbo partys / events etc but if you can stream runescape, you can stream anything. Those who play runescape will know how boring it is to string millions of yew longs in the game & if people watch that then they could be entertained by watching paint dry.. or watching few people doing the pogo mogo in a party room..

The stream is basically the radio plus other features.

Some things you can do:

Still play music using Sam Broadcaster
Stream your screen / habbo / djing software
DJ says / other comments can be displayed on video
The use of webcams if djs wanted to do challenges with one another etc
Twitch don't have any rules about streaming music so if PPLUK ever go back onto habbox, you'd be safe.


Those are just off the top of my head. There's just so many more opportunities that the radio can't offer. If people don't want to watch, they can still listen. I think it'd be hilarious to have something like internet innuendo bingo with older presenters / those who feel confident enough to do it or something like that in general, maybe as a weekly thing? it'd be far more interesting than listening to someone tell me the name of every other song.

I know there's flaws but it could always be tested weekly by management or something, see how it goes. I dunno, I just thought I'd suggest this as its a bit sad seeing it all go down the loo (no offence to current staff). Good luck with it anyway.


ciaoooo

[Richie]

Has nobody actually read my first post or did you all just see 'webcam' and think 'no, no, no' I'm saying you CAN go on webcam, as in the software allows you to & I gave a suggestion about when the webcam may come in use if habboxlive wanted to use them but there's plenty more ideas in this suggestion than just 'LETS GET WEBCAMS AND GET MORE LISTENERS' that's not what I'm saying.

[Grig]

Its all depends on certain factors, the DJ being primary the software quality etc. As good as that idea is, I think Sulake will have something to say about it. If not then the Habbox haters will use it as an excuse to report habbox to Sulake! Streams are actually quite cool, and I would probably watch them if there was an interesting DJ on.


Streams are strangly entertaining, but I only watch Youtuber streams.





Oooooo put your handbag down there Mike, but pmsl.





If Habboxlive started having spam giveaways that would be the dog crap on the tombstone. The only reason I listen to Habbox over the other big fansites is because some of the DJ's are on the radio because they arent always licking behinds





My name is Jazz hi, it was me, logan, kristina and emma till everyone got fired or resigned etc.
I would like to see the vault back, but not as wired up as @ilogan made it (I spent one day stacking over 300 wired furni's, because logan didnt want his weave getting dislodged). I was talking to jade a couple of days ago about another event similar to the vault where we could incorporate the vault into a 7 seven 'gameshow' but I never got to explain it through because of yet another hxl argument.

Its sad to see that HabboxLive is dropping slightly off the radar, a lot of the other fansites are doing these very good radio events and have a good on-client event basis to go with it. I've gotta say, that I have lost some respect for the department since I left its opened my eyes and everytime I make any kind of suggestion or comment about the department I get the little lap dogs yapping and biting my ankles.

You know it fully +rep!

I'll comment later when I'm not trying to multi-task, but this sums it up.

Adzeh did The Vault before wired was even thought of and it bagged listeners. I mean the 'Dance Show' is great but it doesn't compare to shows that can take HxL higher like The Vault or shows that have a topic and are different from "my name is DJ Balls and the next song is balls. So that song was balls, let's play some Abba in the mix" etc.

Although the management structure of radio needs to change as well, you need timezone managers nowadays. Before I thought that was stupid, but if a manager cannot commit as fully or get Habbox as a brand out before, then there need to be structural changes.

[Chippiewill]

I think some kind of high stakes gameshow would work on Habboxlive, like the Vault. It could be anything really. But it does need to happen.


Has nobody actually read my first post or did you all just see 'webcam' and think 'no, no, no' I'm saying you CAN go on webcam, as in the software allows you to & I gave a suggestion about when the webcam may come in use if habboxlive wanted to use them but there's plenty more ideas in this suggestion than just 'LETS GET WEBCAMS AND GET MORE LISTENERS' that's not what I'm saying.

I have to say, I was getting very confused that people were going on about webcams not being allowed / dubious when its hardly the main attraction in the first place.

[sex]

Although the management structure of radio needs to change as well, you need timezone managers nowadays. Before I thought that was stupid, but if a manager cannot commit as fully or get Habbox as a brand out before, then there need to be structural changes.

i mentioned this in a spam thread that habbox dies at night time and suggested this (see my sig lol)
habbox are going no where if they have just one manager running each department. you don't even need an assistant manager then if you have 2 or three managers for the different timezones

[Rachel]

i mentioned this in a spam thread that habbox dies at night time and suggested this (see my sig lol)
habbox are going no where if they have just one manager running each department. you don't even need an assistant manager then if you have 2 or three managers for the different timezones


Yes that could be good but I don`t think this is considered needed at this point.

[lemons]

habboxlive needs a complete overhaul, all staff should be fired

[Rachel]

habboxlive needs a complete overhaul, all staff should be fired

How so? I do not agree with this.

[Grig]

Yes that could be good but I don`t think this is considered needed at this point.

That's stupid. It's needed, we are not in 2007 anymore. All fansites have adapted; I loved it when I became International Manager, for I could finally focus outside of the UK timezone. Yet, that got changed. I wouldn't even advocate an Int. Manager, but rather one for all timezones.

Your comment is another classic example why HxL is going no-where. I was even considering rejoining for the summer, but why should I if the status quo is the way to go...

[lemons]

How so? I do not agree with this.

Because it is the worse department on Habbox. The majority of music is poor/old, at least half the DJ's sound like 10 year olds and I don't find any of the DJ's entertaining at all. There should be international radio managers so that it appeals to more people

Also the lack of events on habbo is one of many reasons why listeners are so low

[Chippiewill]

if they have just one manager running each department.
Depends on the department, I'm not convinced that content/graphics needs multiple managers, events/hxl/hxhd on the other hand definitely do. I think that allows for a greater degree of flexibility when it comes to staff feedback.

I don't know how events is managed, but if I were managing it then I'd want 1 in 2 or 3 events supervised by a senior member of staff for at least 20 minutes, they wouldn't be there to talk to the EO, they'd simply be sat taking some notes along the lines of: are they advertising the rest of habbox? are they engaging the players or just doing the event? are they constantly changing their event or do they slip into a routine? do they come across as putting any effort in? And I think the managers would then also be peer reviewed, and with good reason, because in all honesty Bolt660; fails on all of those criteria himself.

And I'd do the exact same with HabboxLive as well, Is their mic quality up to scratch? Is the variance in songs good enough? If they focus heavy on a style or genre perhaps they should make a weekly show out of it? Are they engaging the listener? Asking the listener questions? Discussing current events, news, happenings on Habbo? Have they promoted the forum happy hour that starts at 6pm? If they're a 4/5pm right after school kind of show then why aren't they asking listeners to send in funny stories about their day? What's with the uhms and urrs, did they not prepare talking points? Does their filler simply consist of telling people why they can't play a certain song (This happens too damn often, just ignore the request)?

Stick this all in a thread for every member so they know what they did wrong and what they did right. A monthly report isn't enough.

[Grig]

Depends on the department, I'm not convinced that content/graphics needs multiple managers, events/hxl/hxhd on the other hand definitely do. I think that allows for a greater degree of flexibility when it comes to staff feedback.

I don't know how events is managed, but if I were managing it then I'd want 1 in 2 or 3 events supervised by a senior member of staff for at least 20 minutes, they wouldn't be there to talk to the EO, they'd simply be sat taking some notes along the lines of: are they advertising the rest of habbox? are they engaging the players or just doing the event? are they constantly changing their event or do they slip into a routine? do they come across as putting any effort in? And I think the managers would then also be peer reviewed, and with good reason, because in all honesty Bolt660; fails on all of those criteria himself.

And I'd do the exact same with HabboxLive as well, Is their mic quality up to scratch? Is the variance in songs good enough? If they focus heavy on a style or genre perhaps they should make a weekly show out of it? Are they engaging the listener? Asking the listener questions? Discussing current events, news, happenings on Habbo? Have they promoted the forum happy hour that starts at 6pm? If they're a 4/5pm right after school kind of show then why aren't they asking listeners to send in funny stories about their day? What's with the uhms and urrs, did they not prepare talking points? Does their filler simply consist of telling people why they can't play a certain song (This happens too damn often, just ignore the request)?

Stick this all in a thread for every member so they know what they did wrong and what they did right. A monthly report isn't enough.

Indeed, Adzeh never did reports until the end of his tenure, yet those days are long gone. Nowadays you need weekly reports for most departments and I believe all community departments need an Int. Manager and a UK one, and for radio 3 timezone managers. It seems Habbox is stuck in the past and much too afraid to change.

[Rachel]

Because it is the worse department on Habbox. The majority of music is poor/old, at least half the DJ's sound like 10 year olds and I don't find any of the DJ's entertaining at all. There should be international radio managers so that it appeals to more people

Also the lack of events on habbo is one of many reasons why listeners are so low

It is by far the worst department in my opinion. Yes it might not be the same as before but it is not the worst department. Djs play variety of music which can be old and new music so we can`t judge on that.

As for international Radio Manager, well like I said I am not sure it is considered. I find the djs very entertaining and it depends the type of music you prefer and you can simply request songs that you want to hear then they will play it if it is appropriate to play on air.

Although for the events it would be beneficial to have more events going on and there is a few decent events going on. But events planning I wouldn`t know for sure as I am not in the events team.

[Chippiewill]

Nowadays you need weekly reports for most departments.
At one stage as Content Manager I even endeavoured daily reports getting very specific on what people had done in individual bits of writing, it would have been great if I had persisted but it was a bit awkward trying to code V7 at the same time.

[Grig]

At one stage as Content Manager I even endeavoured daily reports getting very specific on what people had done in individual bits of writing, it would have been great if I had persisted but it was a bit awkward trying to code V7 at the same time.

News went from weekly to monthly, which I strongly disagree with. If you know news well, you can evaluate well in a weekly report. It's the fact managers become lazy, make excuses such as "oh all the information is given in edit PMs", yet realistically, there are many things to talk about outside of feedback PMs and things like that.

Of course, for a manager daily is impossible, but I, even though hated it myself sometimes as I was extremely busy, would always advocate for weekly reports. They're great for people can get praise, whilst others can have some juicy constructive feedback.

[:Markster:]

I think this idea is being shot down too easily. It is definitely something fresh that we could do, once i return from my exams i'll definitely give it a go. Heck even with the webcam on so sex; can get overexcited.
As far as HabboxLive goes, yeah we know that some of our DJs aren't exactly up to scratch but we just haven't had the time to get down to fixing that really. Both Jade and I have been away due to school for the last few weeks and we just haven't gotten around to it yet. We don't really get to be too picky about our trialists because if we were to do so then we simply wouldn't have any DJs left. Times have changed, we don't get nearly as many applications as we used to and as we'd like. Obviously due to it being summer we might get a few more now as people have more free time etc.
We will definitely try host more events, I know Foregetfuhl; has been wagging her finger at some of the DJs who haven't been helping out as much as they are expected to so hopefully we will get more events going on soon. I started on working on a "Deal or no deal" room as that would be a fun event to host but that got put on hold due to my exams coming up, hopefully that will develop into a real thing soon enough.
As far as spam giveaways go we just don't have the funds for them, simple as that.
The thing about the HabboxLive.com layout is that, as far as I know, the site will be gone when version 7 is launched and in reality we don't even have a fully functional panel which we spend waaaaaaaaay too much time and effort maintaining.
I know that a lot of that may seem like an excuse but it really isn't. We are trying to keep HabboxLive alive and currently it's at the bottom of the parabola. But rest assured we are slowly and somewhat steadily resuscitating it. Bottom line - things will get better.

[Grig]

It is by far the worst department in my opinion. Yes it might not be the same as before but it is not the worst department. Djs play variety of music which can be old and new music so we can`t judge on that.

As for international Radio Manager, well like I said I am not sure it is considered. I find the djs very entertaining and it depends the type of music you prefer and you can simply request songs that you want to hear then they will play it if it is appropriate to play on air.

Although for the events it would be beneficial to have more events going on and there is a few decent events going on. But events planning I wouldn`t know for sure as I am not in the events team.

This is extremely silly. I feel like typing caps, but won't do so. DJs should NOT HAVE REQUESTS, BUT BE PREPARED TO HAVE VARIETY. OK, I did it anyway.

Head DJs should do events per month and if this was removed, I would not be happy. At least one event should be something big and unique, not like falling furni.

[lemons]

Isn't it habbox's 10 year birthday this year? Is there any special and good plans?

[Chippiewill]

Isn't it habbox's 10 year birthday this year? Is there any special and good plans?

Yes.

[Zelda]

News went from weekly to monthly, which I strongly disagree with. If you know news well, you can evaluate well in a weekly report. It's the fact managers become lazy, make excuses such as "oh all the information is given in edit PMs", yet realistically, there are many things to talk about outside of feedback PMs and things like that.

Of course, for a manager daily is impossible, but I, even though hated it myself sometimes as I was extremely busy, would always advocate for weekly reports. They're great for people can get praise, whilst others can have some juicy constructive feedback.

talking about weeklies in news I actually brought those back when I got manager Grig and they've been going on ever since :P

[sex]

Isn't it habbox's 10 year birthday this year? Is there any special and good plans?

v6.5 is going to be released

[Mr-Trainor]

Isn't it habbox's 10 year birthday this year? Is there any special and good plans?
Yep, and good question :P. I'm assuming there will be another HxSS, so maybe they could make that bigger than usual.. somehow :P.


Habbox was founded in the Summer of 2003 by Mizki.

[Grig]

talking about weeklies in news I actually brought those back when I got manager Grig and they've been going on ever since :P

Fanxx, +rep!!!

Could really talk about Tiger Bread if they were there before hehehe!!! ;)

[MKR&*42]

Fanxx, +rep!!!

Could really talk about Tiger Bread if they were there before hehehe!!! ;)

>: ( Caught you talking about tiger bread growl. (don't even relate growl to tiger.)

OT: Erm yes.?

[Rachel]

This is extremely silly. I feel like typing caps, but won't do so. DJs should NOT HAVE REQUESTS, BUT BE PREPARED TO HAVE VARIETY. OK, I did it anyway.

Head DJs should do events per month and if this was removed, I would not be happy. At least one event should be something big and unique, not like falling furni.


The purpose of getting request is to play music that the listeners are requesting to the DJ.

As the Head DJs doing events well we can do a giveaway with the account by telling Jade and Mark ahead of time during or we can always host Win a Room.

Now if you mean about events that the head DJs have to use their own stuff for it well some may do if they like but what if they don`t play habbo anymore and have no more furniture and only go on if they dj and go to party rooms....how can they host events without furni . Unless the furniture is provided from the events team or whatever then yes.

[Grig]

The purpose of getting request is to play music that the listeners are requesting to the DJ.

As the Head DJs doing events well we can do a giveaway with the account by telling Jade and Mark ahead of time during or we can always host Win a Room.

Now if you mean about events that the head DJs have to use their own stuff for it well some may do if they like but what if they don`t play habbo anymore and have no more furniture and only go on if they dj and go to party rooms....how can they host events without furni . Unless the furniture is provided from the events team or whatever then yes.

it was a requirement when Jess managed, Logan and I managed. If you are a Head DJ you need to do this and it was compulsory. That, or you get the team that you manage to help you with it, which is not that difficult.

We'd always assist with furni as well if there were any problems.

Giveaways are also boring and are usually the easy solution to solve a problem. I'd do them, but mix them up with other things. They don't solve the fundamental problems of HxL.

[Rachel]

it was a requirement when Jess managed, Logan and I managed. If you are a Head DJ you need to do this and it was compulsory. That, or you get the team that you manage to help you with it, which is not that difficult.

We'd always assist with furni as well if there were any problems.

Giveaways are also boring and are usually the easy solution to solve a problem. I'd do them, but mix them up with other things. They don't solve the fundamental problems of HxL.


Yes I get your point and the events is still enforced for the Head DJs.

Overall I think not just head djs who should do events , senior DJs aswell when they can.

[Grig]

Yes I get your point and the events is still enforced for the Head DJs.

Overall I think not just head djs who should do events , senior DJs aswell when they can.

Which you, in your position should be enforcing.

[Jurv]

habboxlive causes more problems than it's worth imo just remove it and focus on something else. does anyone even listen to radio anymore lol

[Rachel]

Which you, in your position should be enforcing.


Don`t worry and besides I am not the only Head DJ here and senior ;)

[Grig]

Don`t worry and besides I am not the only Head DJ here and senior ;)

You are in charge of your group, so this shouldn't be a transfer of the blame.

I would prefer timezone groups again; the problem with that though is that there aren't many international staff at HxL at the moment.

[:Markster:]

You are in charge of your group, so this shouldn't be a transfer of the blame.

I would prefer timezone groups again; the problem with that though is that there aren't many international staff at HxL at the moment.

We do have timezone groups right now :P Except as our timezone 3 group is such a small one we just have 2 timezone 1 groups and 1 timezone 2.

[Mr-Trainor]

Oh btw, in regards to multiple managers; I think that there should only be one manager for each department but having two assistant managers instead of 1 could work. Obv graphics/RV/content/comps don't necessarily need that but for HxL and maybe events it could work?

[FlyingJesus]

One thing I would like to say on this matter is that the issue often seems to be the same as it is with events and other community departments - the sense of community is downplayed so much that it almost might as well have password access. Too much is always put on just pandering to the host's chums and having private jokes if there's any speaking at all. On friday (I think, could be wrong) there was a show where in among a few songs the DJ did an "agony aunt" request line, and while a lot of it was people sending in rude stuff that couldn't be read out it got more listeners than most shows and was actually enjoyable and interactive rather than just being a bit of background music, which let's face it we could all put on ourselves since people tend to have their own music on the computer anyway. More interaction with the wider community that staff are supposed to be representing would mean that people actually feel like they're part of the process and hopefully be wanting to get involved themselves.

Also some of the jingles are awful and whoever commissioned them should be shot. There's one that goes on for like 5 minutes and it's just clips of various songs cut together with Movie Maker or something



Oh btw, in regards to multiple managers; I think that there should only be one manager for each department but having two assistant managers instead of 1 could work. Obv graphics/RV/content/comps don't necessarily need that but for HxL and maybe events it could work?

I would assume that international managers (international still being a far smaller part of Hx) would still be answerable to the main dept manager so it would be like an extra assistant yeah, and obv only necessary for community departments as you say

[Samantha]

talking about weeklies in news I actually brought those back when I got manager Grig and they've been going on ever since :P

Weren't they back before you became manager, I'm sorry, but we haven't had consistent reports in ages lmao.

Grig; I never wanted to make them monthly, that was done when i was the assistant with Charlie, I somewhat like weekly ones as you get feedback often.

[Zelda]

Weren't they back before you became manager, I'm sorry, but we haven't had consistent reports in ages lmao.

@Grig (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=8106); I never wanted to make them monthly, that was done when i was the assistant with Charlie, I somewhat like weekly ones as you get feedback often.

nop :P remember I did the december monthlies myself as well anyway before I even got assist and there wasn't actually any weeklies till I brought them back :P

[Foregetfuhl]

Thats the whole point of bringing in these type of weekly shows for a community feel. The Heads and Seniors all have requirements of hosting x amount of events per month and to be honest pretty much all of those rules are still in place as set when Jess, Logan etc. was here.

Obviously it was fine up until myself and Mark went away for three weeks due to exams and since then it has drastically dropped. In hindsight I wished I have asked GM to take over for those three weeks as it quite obviously have a hard fall down in May for us because of the impact of having no management in charge but its just one of those things that we have to look at the department as a whole and also at the individuals and see who we feel should be making the cut and also HELPING those who don't rather than just throwing them aside.

Obviously at the moment we are bringing back weeklys, sorting out big events, trying to encourage DJ workshops and server trials, we've improved the way in which to apply on hxl.com so you don't need to e-mail. Loads of things are getting done just at the moment it is a lot of back end stuff that needs sorting out.

[Jazz]

I might as well post some ideas in regards to roles within the radio and events etc.

I think in regards to roles and management there needs to be set international managers, thats what works. I've just come out of a stint at another fansite and the way the management was laid out was amazing and it was so much easier than Habbox management. They had:

EU Radio Manager
NA Radio Manager
OC Radio Manager

All the departments had equal times to DJ, there was a nice mix of international and home presenters and we all worked together to make events and helped each other develop our respective departments. I think that HxL should either have a stricter rule on hiring DJ's, for example put them on the server trial with no option to make sure they arent lying in their application and then when you think they are ready put them on the main server. I don't think that new DJ's should be allowed to go straight onto the main server and completely ruin the listeners, or just disconnect. Some of the new DJ's need some serious training with connecting, covers, SAM etc.

I think that OC needs to be focused on because during AEST times its pretty much offline for the whole time, apart from the odd Senior+ staff that goes on and streams for a couple of hours. I think its a bit silly that there are 2 managers for over 40 DJ's, both EU managers. There are head DJ's 2 are EU, and seniors have no authority what so ever. I personally think that senior DJ's should be scrapped and have maybe:

EU Radio Manager
2 EU Head DJ's
NA Radio Manager
2 NA Head DJ's
OC Radio Manager
2 OC Head DJ's

because in my opinion from working with senior+ since 2011, the main role of the Senior team is to report DJ's, post feedbacks and get told to do events which dont tend to occur. If there were more head DJ's then there would be more authority and an improved quality during non-UK peak times.

In regards to events and shows HxL need to go through with the news shows. Also I dislike some of the senior+ events at Habbox, mainly because from what I've seen they are pretty much 'forced' events due to the 2 events per month rule. They are all the same, win a rooms and giveaways and guess the passwords (that arent events, they are small competitions at the most) and i've said this so many times even when I was management.

The Vault (I can help you with it if you want etc)
Whos on 'Heart' idea, the one @MissAlice suggested over 6 months ago
Deal or No Deal, ,Jess,; did this many times and it was awesome.
More connection to other community departments, mainly events and help desk.

Habboxlive needs a serious clean up, and I think Jade and Mark can do that when they are settled back into rota, as they all have exams at the moment. As do most of the department at this time of year. Social Media and Weekly Shows need sorting out badly, and of course radio events.

Top 20 shows
Call in shows
Weekly chat shows
News shows

these would be a good start, with decent trustworthy DJ's.

Thats me finished, night all! x

[Samantha]

nop :P remember I did the december monthlies myself as well anyway before I even got assist and there wasn't actually any weeklies till I brought them back :P

Well I don't think it's a good thing to lie to grig regardless of who brought them back. I wanted them back ages when I was originally the assistant the first time, but I didn't get as much chance as you did when you were yhe assistant. Although there was no point as we had a lack of staff.

[Zelda]

Well I don't think it's a good thing to lie to grig regardless of who brought them back. I wanted them back ages when I was originally the assistant the first time, but I didn't get as much chance as you did when you were yhe assistant. Although there was no point as we had a lack of staff.

yea not denying that you didn't was just stating it to grig :P

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+ I agree with Jazz a lot really, more stuff to do with news was something me and her were discussing a bit and it's definitely something that I need to probably discuss with jade/mark really to actually get going more too, sort of just halted really. Lots of weeklies of all sorts are definitely a good way to go forward tho

[Foregetfuhl]

We only have two australian DJs so no way can we even contemplate bringing in an OC side without the push to bring in an OC side, but baring in mind there isn't really any kind of OC side at Habbox as a whole that would prove extremely difficult. At the moment I'm having to be on to cover the NA side as well because we have a very new Head DJ for the internationals. We've been told time and time again that there is no need for an international radio manager and unless Grig came back I wouldn't really trust anyone else either (sorry to my department that are int. but I don't at this point in time)

At the moment only events that count that they can do for events are giveaways any type and win a room competition which they don't do and at the moment it is a serious problem that is being addressed. I'm back from exams and what now anyway so it all getting sorted as much as possible with Mark hopefully returning in the next couple of weeks as well.

It is just one of those things unfortunately that Habbox as a whole doesn't have an international side and it is something that needs to be addressed fully if we have any chance at having a dedicated team like other fansites do. I know for a fact how HFFM runs and I love their way of running but until we have a good full international team that isn't something that will be easily achievable.

[Samantha]

yea not denying that you didn't was just stating it to grig :P

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+ I agree with Jazz a lot really, more stuff to do with news was something me and her were discussing a bit and it's definitely something that I need to probably discuss with jade/mark really to actually get going more too, sort of just halted really. Lots of weeklies of all sorts are definitely a good way to go forward tho

What I was mainly saying was that you said you do weeklies each week yet you don't, I know you're inactive and I understand a head did them last week, but we weren't pushed to previously, it's just like when it seemed you and Ryan had just gone away or limited and I had to do all senior duties, although I never see how someone who is away can still post or be on the forum constantly. For example, I'm away now and.haven't spent much time on the forum or Habbo. Really though I can link this to what Jade said, it doesn't help if the manager is away and that's my problem now, I still am berry ill at the moment and you just need to be alone, but people need that role to go to when help is needed.

I've waffled on, basically don't state incorrect information, have someone on hand if you need to go away that way your department doesn't suffer as much.

[sex]

We only have two australian DJs so no way can we even contemplate bringing in an OC side without the push to bring in an OC side, but baring in mind there isn't really any kind of OC side at Habbox as a whole that would prove extremely difficult. At the moment I'm having to be on to cover the NA side as well because we have a very new Head DJ for the internationals. We've been told time and time again that there is no need for an international radio manager and unless Grig came back I wouldn't really trust anyone else either (sorry to my department that are int. but I don't at this point in time)

At the moment only events that count that they can do for events are giveaways any type and win a room competition which they don't do and at the moment it is a serious problem that is being addressed. I'm back from exams and what now anyway so it all getting sorted as much as possible with Mark hopefully returning in the next couple of weeks as well.

It is just one of those things unfortunately that Habbox as a whole doesn't have an international side and it is something that needs to be addressed fully if we have any chance at having a dedicated team like other fansites do. I know for a fact how HFFM runs and I love their way of running but until we have a good full international team that isn't something that will be easily achievable.

Having no OC side basically excludes a huge part of habbo as chances are the radio will be down if they decide to listen, god knows how they would even find out about it since there is nothing promoting habbox after 12pm every night lol.

as for the trust thing, surely it wouldn't be up to you to decide a manage who is equal to you and works along side you? did you not get trusted to run the department despite being here only three months? i don't see why you can't do the same for someone else.. lol

[Foregetfuhl]

Having no OC side basically excludes a huge part of habbo as chances are the radio will be down if they decide to listen, god knows how they would even find out about it since there is nothing promoting habbox after 12pm every night lol.

as for the trust thing, surely it wouldn't be up to you to decide a manage who is equal to you and works along side you? did you not get trusted to run the department despite being here only three months? i don't see why you can't do the same for someone else.. lol

My opinions do come into consideration lol.

And we do have an NA side, not 100% strong but we do have 13 NA people at the moment, 2 OC and the rest are UK. The times that are the problem are roughly 7am through to 2pm when the UKs come back from school. These would be the times that australian/new zeland/ other areas over that way would be DJing but we don't have them and with a lack of that side in ALL departments it is difficult to improve on. There aren't events on generally at that time either, it isn't just HxL.

[FlyingJesus]

Oceanic people can likely fit into parts of UK/US times considering people don't sleep for 12 hours a day most of the time, and the evening in Australia isn't necessarily going to be a time when the entire rest of the world is asleep. They could come under UK or US management depending on when they prefer to work, since unless we suddenly have an influx of people from down under join up as DJs it's not worth creating a management role for it

[Samantha]

One thing I'd like to know is, not regarding other departments much, but maybe have seniors of the community departments more inclined to help with the bigger events like they do in the actual department - Jade, how come they can only do giveaways, win a rooms etc. have they got any ideas or have they asked maybe an EO or someone if they could borrow their room or Wired game for an hour or two?

[Foregetfuhl]

One thing I'd like to know is, not regarding other departments much, but maybe have seniors of the community departments more inclined to help with the bigger events like they do in the actual department - Jade, how come they can only do giveaways, win a rooms etc. have they got any ideas or have they asked maybe an EO or someone if they could borrow their room or Wired game for an hour or two?

That isn't what they can only do, they can do what they want with their events, just the majority aren't exactly bringing that innovation into the department to do such a thing. Unfortunately it would be pointless to host proper events as we have EO's for that so providing it is something that can be done via the radio we'd be up for them trying it. Fact is you won't know if something is going to go well until you try it like with Dear Calum... that an idea we thought of before Christmas but until Calum came along noone wanted to try it and it did extremely well on Saturday in my eyes. We have loads of ideas its just taking the step forward to put them out there whilst also keeping an eye on a whole load of other things that need sorting out right now purely down to the fact that the past month has been exam/coursework season so for the majority of HxL it hasn't been a priority, myself and Mark included.

[iLogan]

didn't really read through this thread too thoroughly but i was tagged about something to do with The Vault so i thought i'd put my 2 cents in:

whilst The Vault was fun and engaged some of the community, the format was flawed... i'm not sure if Habbo's changed now in terms of the amount of people you can have in your room but when i was active it was 50, so technically only 50 people could get involved with the show, because, let's face it, tuning into someone commentating about someone pushing a couple boxes and pulling a lever is not very invigorating, but then again people did.

perhaps if the vault returned with a focus on the radio side rather than habbo client it may be more successful...

on a completely different note, i saw some discussion about the international side of habbox(live) and i suggest another habbox24 which was, for anyone who can't remember, 24 hours of radio and client events where you win points in the events and the person with the most points at the end wins a prize (throne or whatever)... many members from the community stayed up and competed and it also drew in some new international members.

[Calum0812]

That isn't what they can only do, they can do what they want with their events, just the majority aren't exactly bringing that innovation into the department to do such a thing. Unfortunately it would be pointless to host proper events as we have EO's for that so providing it is something that can be done via the radio we'd be up for them trying it. Fact is you won't know if something is going to go well until you try it like with Dear Calum... that an idea we thought of before Christmas but until Calum came along noone wanted to try it and it did extremely well on Saturday in my eyes. We have loads of ideas its just taking the step forward to put them out there whilst also keeping an eye on a whole load of other things that need sorting out right now purely down to the fact that the past month has been exam/coursework season so for the majority of HxL it hasn't been a priority, myself and Mark included.
That's the way to move forward. Trial and error and I believe that is what we are doing with lots of things in HxL at the moment!

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah briefly mentioned Dear Calum in my earlier post but it really needs to be said again: that's the sort of thing that HxL needs more of. Was hilarious and that's from someone who isn't all chummy with the DJs and stuff

Also with regards to The Vault I think Logan's probably right in that it ought to not be a client-based competition due to room limits, or at least base it on getting around different rooms and not staying in one place

[Calum0812]

Yeah briefly mentioned Dear Calum in my earlier post but it really needs to be said again: that's the sort of thing that HxL needs more of. Was hilarious and that's from someone who isn't all chummy with the DJs and stuff

Also with regards to The Vault I think Logan's probably right in that it ought to not be a client-based competition due to room limits, or at least base it on getting around different rooms and not staying in one place
Tank you for your kind words. It means a lot to know that the show was enjoyed by not just my fellow DJs but by people who don't even know me personally :)

[Foregetfuhl]

We did a Habbox24 hour giveaway not that long ago and it was very successful in numbers and such just before me and mark went away for exams. I've asked events management a number of times to sort out dates with me for a proper client based events Habbox24 with points etc. Just waiting on replies in regards to that.

[Catchy]

The radio quality seems different, they have better settings in place. The design alone gives the radio more of a 'community feel' or something, habboxlives current layout is older than me. I don't know why hxl djs don't take advantage of the equalizer settings in Sam 4, quality sounds better when it's adjusted correctly.

i swear this is the problem for both habbox and habboxlive. the layout just looks ancient, bulky and so uncute its hideous... infact i dont think iv ever liked a single one of them

[Richie]

i swear this is the problem for both habbox and habboxlive. the layout just looks ancient, bulky and so uncute its hideous... infact i dont think iv ever liked a single one of them


You design the next one Jacob;) I wouldn't dear ask about v7 will get bombarded with 'IT'LL BE DONE WHEN IT'S DONE' :P

[Grig]

I don't get why Habbox always takes so long to roll out new layouts. I know ThisHabbo only took about a month or so, and it actually looks really nice. The longer you wait, the higher the expectations thus become :P!

Let me now talk about perm shows. I briefly hinted that the following shows are needed:

- Variety Show: Where a DJ has one in the middle of the week and has certain segments, a bit like a Late Show on tv. We had 3 of those at one point many years ago and people would get excited and tune into their fix of it because the DJs did them so well. Basically, it would include chat topics, games and humour.

- News Show: It seems the news department and HabboxLive cannot get this together for what seems like ever now. I did do it when I was Assistant Manager of News and it was great promotion for news and a nice and entertaining show for HabboxLive.

- A HxL Chart Show: Have a universal chart show where listeners actually can vote. I'm not too sure how feasible this is now because of low listener rates, but it gives more audience interaction etc.

-Win A Room/ The Vault: Lot's of prizes and we've discussed this already.

- A Chat Show: Have it during the weekend and where you could pick a topic and chat about it- have a debate and allow call-ins. Was always a nice and engaging show.

- Satire/ comedy/ gossip show: An idea never tried by anyone at any radio station, but one that could be controversial and thus very popular, whilst still sticking to the rules.

- 'The Outpost': A good name I thought of an more older teen based show during the middle of the night- less Habbo based, more real life based focused on the older folk.

- Sports Show: Focus it more on things people enjoy such as football, whilst at the same time an excellent opportunity to do sports-like events on the client, which could really mix the two extremely well.

- Spotlight...: A show where you put a spotlight on a certain genre each week and talk about latest news on artists and hits on that particular genre. This can rotate in cycles.

- Friday Night Quiz: Or on any night, have a quiz where people can win a big prize. Pub quiz kind of format.


Obviously, there are many more I have, but have got to pop out now, so will add on to these very shortly. Also will give some other suggestions.