Religious Dice Rigger???

[Lewis]

I'm actually being 100% srs. it was well scary

he told me he prayed to allah to get dice numbers the same, so I gave him dice. He said "BISMILLAH HIR RAHMA NIR RAHEEM" (just googled, this means in the name of allah)

Then he rolled 1-1, then 2-2, then 3-3. :(


(HE TOLD ME HE WAS A MUSLIM AND HE SAID THE PRAYER WAS IN ARABIC. SAYING HIS WORDS, DONT ATTACK ME!!!!!!!!!)

There was an old flaw if you rolled two dice same time, it was the same number. It was patched. Could there be a new flaw in any way?

[sex]

WT WITH U ATTACKING FOREIGN PEOPLE TODAY lmao

dice rigging is impos im sure

[Mr-Trainor]

Very weird :S lol.

[MKR&*42]

Wtf is with these foreigner attacking threads. !!!!!


Dice rigging imposs

[Lewis]

WT WITH U ATTACKING FOREIGN PEOPLE TODAY lmao

dice rigging is impos im sure


he told me was muslim and doing a prayer in arabic. just saying his words.

AND HOW AM I ATTACKING HIM!/1/!?1//1 im scared lol

---------- Post added 30-06-2013 at 09:15 PM ----------


Wtf is with these foreigner attacking threads. !!!!!


Dice rigging imposs

maybe it was his god that rigged it for him!!! ya never know.
its a bit strange.

there was a dice flaw ages ago that if u rolled at same time, u got same number. this was patched

[Samantha]

So he said some words that either don't exist or are spelt wrong, so it makes him a dice rigger :P?

[Lewis]

So he said some words that either don't exist or are spelt wrong, so it makes him a dice rigger :P?

he said he could roll double numbers, he then rolled 1-1. Then 2-2. Then 3-3.

And I googled, the words mean 'In the name of allah' lol. The words probably mean nothing --- but apparantly it did when I asked him :S. Could it be a coincidence? Yes. But it's unlikely to roll 1-1, then 2-2, then 3-3. Like he said.
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dont -rep me when im not trying to impress people. ask mr-trainor, im being serious omg. I'm just telling you what he did...

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[Zak]

Dice stacking...?

[usanme123]

who?

[e5]

I'm thinking it was dice stacking and the text was just a distraction.

[Mr-Trainor]

Dice stacking...?
Could be, but Lewis said that he gave him the dice to roll :P.

[AgnesIO]

Little bit of common sense destroys this guy. He wasn't Muslim, and he certainly couldn't speak in Arabic.

Slight problem with his message being in the Greek alphabet, which Arabic does not use.

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[sex]

he said he could roll double numbers, he then rolled 1-1. Then 2-2. Then 3-3.

And I googled, the words mean 'In the name of allah' lol. The words probably mean nothing --- but apparantly it did when I asked him :S. Could it be a coincidence? Yes. But it's unlikely to roll 1-1, then 2-2, then 3-3. Like he said.
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dont -rep me when im not trying to impress people. ask mr-trainor, im being serious omg. I'm just telling you what he did...

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hi @e5 (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=30040); remove my unfair -rep plz x

why did you quote me in this when edit it lol. i didn't -rep you if you think that
the guy probably stacked the dice, not "rigged them"

[Lewis]

why did you quote me in this when edit it lol. i didn't -rep you if you think that
the guy probably stacked the dice, not "rigged them"

It was in my room...
plus dice stacking doesnt work anymore

[AgnesIO]

It was in my room...
plus dice stacking doesnt work anymore

The fact you believe it was down to religion is laughable, in fairness.

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[Mr-Trainor]

why did you quote me in this when edit it lol. i didn't -rep you if you think that
the guy probably stacked the dice, not "rigged them"
It was in Lewis' room so they weren't stacked :P.

[Lewis]

The fact you believe it was down to religion is laughable, in fairness.

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Excuse me? Not for one damn moment do I believe it was down to religous belief.

What I said in a reply was a harmless joke. It's either one huge coincidence, or a new flaw --- as there used to be if you rolled two dice at the same time. I'm merely quoting what the person who did it said.

---------- Post added 30-06-2013 at 09:59 PM ----------

why does this have to be turned into an argument thread.

1. I'm just quoting everything he told me and what he said
2. I told you what I saw, which is he rolled 1-1, then 2-2, then 3-3.
3. I am asking whether you think it's a huge coincidence, or if there may be or is a new flaw, like the old one where if you clicked dice at the same time.


thx

[AgnesIO]

Excuse me? Not for one damn moment do I believe it was down to religous belief.

What I said in a reply was a harmless joke. It's either one huge coincidence, or a new flaw --- as there used to be if you rolled two dice at the same time. I'm merely quoting what the person who did it said.

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why does this have to be turned into an argument thread.

1. I'm just quoting everything he told me and what he said
2. I told you what I saw, which is he rolled 1-1, then 2-2, then 3-3.
3. I am asking whether you think it's a huge coincidence, or if there may be or is a new flaw, like the old one where if you clicked dice at the same time.


thx

Title: Religious Dice Rigger.


LEMME TINK

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[Lewis]

Title: Religious Dice Rigger.


LEMME TINK

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As I said --- quoting what he said? He said he's a religious dice rigger.

I apologise for not putting " " in religious.

[AgnesIO]

As I said --- quoting what he said? He said he's a religious dice rigger.

I apologise for not putting " " in religious.

Someone could tell me they Bill Gates on habbo, I wouldn't then tell people I had talked to someone who could have been Bill Gates lol

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[Lewis]

Someone could tell me they Bill Gates on habbo, I wouldn't then tell people I had talked to someone who could have been Bill Gates lol

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Yes, but they actually proved a form of evidence that they can make the dice what they want --- whether it was a coincidence or a flaw on habbo's game that he found.

Whereas, this bill gates habbo didn't add you on skype and show you a webcam of him and himself on habbo...

[AgnesIO]

Yes, but they actually proved a form of evidence that they can make the dice what they want --- whether it was a coincidence or a flaw on habbo's game that he found.

Whereas, this bill gates habbo didn't add you on skype and show you a webcam of him and himself on habbo...

So how does him having him add you on Skype make him a Muslim Arabic speaking genius? :L

Please, don't say what I think is coming lol

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[Lewis]

So how does him having him add you on Skype make him a Muslim Arabic speaking genius? :L

Please, don't say what I think is coming lol

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What's that got to do with anything?
When I said skype, I was talking about giving evidence that this habbo you met is steve jobs. You didn't get evidence, whereas this guy actually did it and didn't just say it :P

[Bradley.]

oh god shut up will u
OK COINCIDENCE OR NOT HE GOT THE SAME NUMBERS

[Daltron]

maybe just coincidence lol

[OldLoveSong]

lmfaooooooooooo omg tht made me laugh soz

[Zak]

If it wasn't dice stacking then I'm not sure what it could be. I remember reading Alex's vito201-:D; article on dice rigging and why it's no longer possible. Made a lot of sense to me at the time.

I actually went and found it for you guys

Complications: Why we can't build a
program:
If you've read up to this stage... and you're still
thinking "Surely this means it IS possible?!" this is the part where I
crush your hopes.

First, speed-apps are totally patched due to Sulake
putting some bork on speeding up their client (Possibly using those packets that
seemingly do nothing but work as a ticker, checking your OS/WB status and
probably your ping&speed)
So that's out of the question really... can't
think it'd even be possible to bypass it even if it is to do with those
packets...

Second is to try and predict the outcome of the pseudo random
number generator... and here's why it's not possible:

In my example I'm
using a very simple nano-second divided by 60... I doubt Sulake use something
anywhere near as simple...
More likely that it'll look something like this
example:
function
pesudoRandomNumberGen()
x = Round((time(nano)/50 MOD *
5/2))
if x => 7 OR x =< 0
then
pesudoRandomNumberGen()
else
end function

when
diceStatus.clicked = true then
resultPacket = (Header + FurniID + '/VALUE/' +
pseudoRandomNumberGen())
end

Let's put a number into it so
you can see what it does... let's say an input of 128 nano
seconds:
(128/50 = 2.56 MOD = 2 * 5 = 10/2 =
5).
(((128nano-seconds/50milli-seconds)MOD)*5seconds)/2 = 5 answer on
the dice is: 5.

So it'll most likely be more like that (Obviously
it'll be a little more sensible).
In fact it's quite likely (For another
layer) Sulake use a list of like 1000 random numbers and then use a mathematical
systemclock based algorithm to make a "GOTO LINE#" statement that goes to a line
and picks the number on that line...
This is kinda unneeded but it would add
another level of "randomness" to it... also it means the outcome could
ALWAYS be a number between 1 and 6.

Another method could be the
use of a randomly generated list that they go through number by number (each
dice-spin either removes the number or moves the counter on one).
The list
could either be never ending or repeat after a few thousand... this would be
even more impossible for us users... but it would mean (If Habbo had less active
accounts) that Sulake staff/a hacker could access the file and wreak havvoc
(Again, only if there was only a handful of users and none of them were using
dice!).

So, if it's just using an algorithm (Quite likely that it is only
doing that, the other levels of security would be easy to add... but would be
kinda pointless in all honesty), you'd probably still think it was possible at
this point?
I mean if we could somehow get the algorithm via a leak or via
some sort of crazy reverse engineering...
Naturally reversing a number
between 1-6 to find the original mathematical problem... is 110% impossible...
after all if the answer was "5" there's literally an infinite amount to the
power of infinite amount to the power... you get the idea...

But yeah...
even if it was possible... there's one more hurdle to cross that makes it
impossible... this last step is: LAG

Specifically
server-lag... since obviously Sulake will use a computer clock on THEIR side of
the Habbo server...
So the main input (The time) is ungettable... because not
only are we not sure if their clock is exactly GMT+0 for example, and to be
honest, it'll probably be a few nano-seconds out... all clocks are unless they
change themselves constantly...
BUT... even if we did get the EXACT time
correct... server-lag would stop us...

I don't care how fast your
connection is... you still have over a nano-second of lag... which would mean
your number-output would be totally different when put through the same
algorithm!

The only (even slight chance) method to build this type of
program would be to ping the server and work out how many nano-seconds of lag
you're getting... but pinging the server takes hundreds of nano seconds!
I
mean, even by the time you got your lag-result and processed it... and put it
through the algorithm... the lag-time will have changed probably a few thousand
times!... And that's before you even got a chance to predict the
number!

Even if you built a neural-network program that could pretty much
10-20% guess the lag-result within the next second (for example)...
Which
would take weeks and weeks to build and train up... also 10-20% is a pretty
hopeful prediction... in all honesty it'd more likely have under 5%
accuracy!

So if you spent the months it would take to build this
program... your result would be a program that'd get the correct answer in about
1/20 (If you're really lucky)...
Do you remember what the odds were at the
start? A dice that spins and gives a result between 1-6?... It's a 1/6
chance...
If you did build this program... you'd honestly have built a
program that's more likely to lesser your chances if anything.

I hope
this editorial on dicerigging will bring people to their senses...
It is
NOT possible to build a dicerigger for Sulake's official
HabboHotel.

[Matt]

Just an over-confident habbo who tried his luck?

[Takahisa]

I'm actually being 100% srs. it was well scary

he told me he prayed to allah to get dice numbers the same, so I gave him dice. He said "BISMILLAH HIR RAHMA NIR RAHEEM" (just googled, this means in the name of allah)

Then he rolled 1-1, then 2-2, then 3-3. :(


(HE TOLD ME HE WAS A MUSLIM AND HE SAID THE PRAYER WAS IN ARABIC. SAYING HIS WORDS, DONT ATTACK ME!!!!!!!!!)

There was an old flaw if you rolled two dice same time, it was the same number. It was patched. Could there be a new flaw in any way?
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[steamyxo]

lol i think he just got lucky tbh, saying in the name of god in arabic or any language isnt gonna get u to be a dice rigger, and maybe he said he was a religious dice rigger for a joke? and the words are in arabic not greek who ever said it wasnt l0l

[myles]

KLMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SCREAMING

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[Lewis]

i repeat, im not saying he's using his religion to rig, if he even is rigging ;l.

just quoting what he said. there was an old flaw as said, if you roll 2 dice at the same time it was the same number ;l

[usanme123]

dice stacking isnt possible anymore