View Full Version : have u ever cut?
deathday
20-08-2013, 10:59 PM
personally i havent... i dont see the point! :)
what about u guys
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mrwoooooooo
20-08-2013, 11:01 PM
no. i'm not an idiot. (http://imgs.steps.dragoart.com/how-to-draw-trollface-trollface-step-7_1_000000064351_3.jpg)
Munex
20-08-2013, 11:02 PM
No. I have a friend that does on occasion, but I don't condone it at all.
myles
20-08-2013, 11:03 PM
yes i done it before but on an accidnet
Zelda
20-08-2013, 11:07 PM
no, but the main reason would be my haemophobia, I have no idea if I'd have done it if I didn't have it tbh, but I do prefer taking out my depression through shouting/moaning or by having a breakdown lmao
Samantha
20-08-2013, 11:29 PM
No I haven't, nor do I intend to. I don't think my life would bring me down that much to physically hurt myself in that way, I'd much prefer punching a wall or something or throwing stuff.
No I haven't. I'll just beat up an innocent bystander if I'm angry.
lol jokes, I won't really. I'll just punch something, not someone
play hockey lets out my angers and stress though!
Calum0812
21-08-2013, 12:24 AM
I'd rather scream at Foregetfuhl; or have a rant for an hour than cut myself and scar my body.
I'm ugly enough without cuts all over me tbh lol :P
People who do, especially my friends, I will try and help them as much as I can but sometimes there is only so much you can do.
Daltron
21-08-2013, 12:38 AM
nope never :)
No I haven't. I'll just beat up an innocent bystander if I'm angry.
lol jokes, I won't really. I'll just punch something, not someone
play hockey lets out my angers and stress though!
So you assault innocent members of the public?! You're such a nice guy
No I never have, can't see myself doing it either. I hate the sight of blood!
karter
21-08-2013, 03:29 AM
nope i haven't
So you assault innocent members of the public?! You're such a nice guy
No I never have, can't see myself doing it either. I hate the sight of blood!
he literally mentioned he was joking right after that lol
Suspective
21-08-2013, 08:11 AM
Nope but I know people who have and I can understand their reasons.
nope i've never felt the need but i don't judge those who do
MKR&*42
21-08-2013, 08:38 AM
Yes and I'm blates not going to judge anyone else who has
So you assault innocent members of the public?! You're such a nice guy
No I never have, can't see myself doing it either. I hate the sight of blood!
I said I was joking silly!
iBlueBox
21-08-2013, 09:00 AM
I've cut sandwiches in half.
Chris
21-08-2013, 10:15 AM
No I haven't, I've never felt the need to do it.
I have actually. Not badly though, it helped me mentally release the pain I felt inside. I don't cut now though and haven't in several years.. mind over matter :)!
no i dont and i think people who do are complete idiots
Hannah
21-08-2013, 01:36 PM
Nope. I don't think I'd have the guts to, either.
The worst self-inflicted pain I've had was picking scabs when I was younger, as gross as it sounds.
na i havent
too much effort
would rather google ducks
ToyTruck
21-08-2013, 07:52 PM
no i've never self harmed
AlexJRiley
21-08-2013, 08:03 PM
My sister used to, I took everything sharp out of her room so she couldn't, its not cool.
myles
21-08-2013, 08:52 PM
na i havent
too much effort
would rather google ducks
same babe
same
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deathday
21-08-2013, 09:07 PM
no sirshame
No, i think it's a shame for people who do :(
No but I understand why some people may do it
I have done once but it was because I was drunk and I needed to cut a thread in a sleeping bag and I tested which side was the sharp one on my arm =.=
Wouldn't be so bad only I did it the wrong way first time and was like "Hmm, it's not that side, I wonder is it this side" -cuts-
IzzyUhh
31-08-2013, 09:10 AM
Yeah i have and i regret it alot but it did help at the time
ihatehash
31-08-2013, 11:32 AM
I never have but I have had friends who have done so.
I think it's quite rude how some people on this forum think they are so above everyone else to say that people who do are idiots.
People only do that sort of thing when they are in a dark place not because they are stupid.
They need to be helped not insulted.
whoeful
03-09-2013, 11:48 AM
no. i'm not an idiot. (http://imgs.steps.dragoart.com/how-to-draw-trollface-trollface-step-7_1_000000064351_3.jpg)
People who Self-Harm aren't Idiots
mrwoooooooo
03-09-2013, 08:02 PM
People who Self-Harm aren't Idiots
:D course they are
Drunq
03-09-2013, 08:20 PM
means they got problems
whoeful
03-09-2013, 09:27 PM
:D course they are
No seriously shut up many people self harm to cope with all there problems and to escape emotional pain, you probably wouldn't understand because you haven't been in the situation. Eurgh wow
Suncadi
06-09-2013, 10:46 AM
Nope, done other stuff but not cutting.
Cerys
06-09-2013, 03:16 PM
Yeah actually.
I haven't done it in quite a while though as I got the help I need. I guess I did it when things just got so bad and low and I couldn't cope anymore if you see what I mean
:¬:
no and I don't think I would ever
No seriously shut up many people self harm to cope with all there problems and to escape emotional pain, you probably wouldn't understand because you haven't been in the situation. Eurgh wow
No.. It is genuinely idiotic.. To harm your own body is stupid and against instinct. I've had terrible experiences in life I'm not cutting myself because to put it simply.. I'm not an idiot. :)
Cerys
06-09-2013, 03:27 PM
No.. It is genuinely idiotic.. To harm your own body is stupid and against instinct. I've had terrible experiences in life I'm not cutting myself because to put it simply.. I'm not an idiot. :)
ok you can believe that if you want but saying you're an idiot for something, when they're already going through a tough time already, isn't really going to help them...
so yeah i respect the fact you think this, but it'd be loads better if you could keep something like this to yourself because it's not a nice thing to say ;3
ok you can believe that if you want but saying you're an idiot for something, when they're already going through a tough time already, isn't really going to help them...
so yeah i respect the fact you think this, but it'd be loads better if you could keep something like this to yourself because it's not a nice thing to say ;3
Times like this when you say grow some balls. Seriously, if they're living in a first world country and decide to damage their own bodies? It's just terribly ungrateful.
Cerys
06-09-2013, 03:32 PM
Times like this when you say grow some balls. Seriously, if they're living in a first world country and decide to damage their own bodies? It's just terribly ungrateful.
It's their choice. whether you think it's a good choice or not it's still terribly rude to call them idiots for it..
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 03:35 PM
No.. It is genuinely idiotic.. To harm your own body is stupid and against instinct. I've had terrible experiences in life I'm not cutting myself because to put it simply.. I'm not an idiot. :)
Sure thats your opinion, and yes harming your own body is a shame, and people who havent done it may not understand and think its weird, but once youve done it, you realise how much it helps emotionally and keeps you standing a lil bit, but.. it can ruin you physically. most cases it gets so much worse.
MKR&*42
06-09-2013, 03:45 PM
Ok I'm not getting into a full blown debate. But don't use the whole "youre in a first world country so your problems dont have any good grounding" stance because it is a terrible argument and assumes that because someone is in a better country they can't have any bad problems.
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 03:48 PM
Ok I'm not getting into a full blown debate. But don't use the whole "youre in a first world country so your problems dont have any good grounding" stance because it is a terrible argument and assumes that because someone is in a better country they can't have any bad problems.
Agreed everyone has problems wether it be lifestyle, family, or depression etc :(
CrazyLemurs
06-09-2013, 03:54 PM
I never have and never could; it seems a little physically disgusting to me
I understand people who have escaped that kind of life might feel comfortable talking about it, but I do sometimes see people who explain that they've recently harmed themselves and are likely to do so again: I don't understand how you can be so open about damaging your body when you're still going through it. To me, that kind of thing looks like their reason for self-cutting is a little fake and attention-seek-esque
Ok I'm not getting into a full blown debate. But don't use the whole "youre in a first world country so your problems dont have any good grounding" stance because it is a terrible argument and assumes that because someone is in a better country they can't have any bad problems.
If you live in a good country you have everything handed to you on a plate, whether you spill some of the food on your shirt it can always be washed off and replaced because you have that power in a first world country. I have worse family problems than a lot of people, but I don't cut myself for it. It's totally ungrateful for the life you have, you only live once, don't ruin it by harming yourself.
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 04:06 PM
If you live in a good country you have everything handed to you on a plate, whether you spill some of the food on your shirt it can always be washed off and replaced because you have that power in a first world country. I have worse family problems than a lot of people, but I don't cut myself for it. It's totally ungrateful for the life you have, you only live once, don't ruin it by harming yourself.
But alot of people cope with alot of different things in different ways, and everyone has ALOT of differant problems from everyone else. just because we have everything handed to us in a first world country doesnt mean we cannot have our own problems, we do not get served happiness for everything because you have the normal situations like death in the family, heart break depression overthinking alot ectetc
Empired
06-09-2013, 04:09 PM
If you live in a good country you have everything handed to you on a plate, whether you spill some of the food on your shirt it can always be washed off and replaced because you have that power in a first world country. I have worse family problems than a lot of people, but I don't cut myself for it. It's totally ungrateful for the life you have, you only live once, don't ruin it by harming yourself.
No one can ever compare their own happiness with someone else's. That's like trying to compare how many donkeys are in the world with how many people lie on a daily basis. You can't do it because they're just not two things you can compare. Everyone reacts to and copes with stress differently. This isn't because they're weak or strong or stupid or smart, it's because nobody is the same.
I can see that I can't convince you that these people aren't 'ungrateful', 'idiotic', or anything else along those lines. But that also means you can't change our views either. So please don't try.
karter
06-09-2013, 04:16 PM
If you live in a good country you have everything handed to you on a plate, whether you spill some of the food on your shirt it can always be washed off and replaced because you have that power in a first world country. I have worse family problems than a lot of people, but I don't cut myself for it. It's totally ungrateful for the life you have, you only live once, don't ruin it by harming yourself.
It's laughable when people use that phrase in an argument. There are so many people who have said the exact same thing on this forum and I am so tired of repeating my posts everywhere sigh
SO, you are trying to say that a person has no right to be unhappy with his life, I should be happy and satisfied because I have facilities and other people, let's say in Africa don't...This is an unbelievable, shallow and narrow minded approach because by overshadowing my problems with the problems people in Africa are facing, does not make me happy, nor does it improve the situation of theirs. I do not support self harm, nor do I know what people go through when they self harm, but one thing I do know is that being a jerk about it and telling people that they are being ungrateful to their life is really, really pathetic. Some people's lives are not so great you know, and regardless even if they are not happy with their lives, **** up, none of your business.
Apparently living in a first world country does not open one's mind.
It's laughable when people use that phrase in an argument. There are so many people who have said the exact same thing on this forum and I am so tired of repeating my posts everywhere sigh
SO, you are trying to say that a person has no right to be unhappy with his life, I should be happy and satisfied because I have facilities and other people, let's say in Africa don't...This is an unbelievable, shallow and narrow minded approach because by overshadowing my problems with the problems people in Africa are facing, does not make me happy, nor does it improve the situation of theirs. I do not support self harm, nor do I know what people go through when they self harm, but one thing I do know is that being a jerk about it and telling people that they are being ungrateful to their life is really, really pathetic. Some people's lives are not so great you know, and regardless even if they are not happy with their lives, **** up, none of your business.
Apparently living in a first world country does not open one's mind.
If they post it on a public forums they make it everyone's business thank you very much.
If people in for example Africa are happy without all of the pleasures that we get living in a first world country, then they are just being ungrateful. Genuinely ungrateful, you would damage the body you're given to live in because life puts you down, sulking in a corner cutting your arms isn't going to solve anything. Once again I say grow some balls and try and change your life instead of doing something stupid and endangering your life.
MKR&*42
06-09-2013, 04:44 PM
Brb telling 13 year old children who have experienced abusive bullying from people in and out of school, physical abuse from their parents and have emotional issues (possibly mental illness) to grow a pair and get over it because they SHOULD KNOW HOW TO COPE WIRH IT AND NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT PROBLEMS PURELY DUE TO A GEOGRAPHICAL FACTOR.
Brb telling 13 year old children who have experienced abusive bullying from people in and out of school, physical abuse from their parents and have emotional issues (possibly mental illness) to grow a pair and get over it because they SHOULD KNOW HOW TO COPE WIRH IT AND NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT PROBLEMS PURELY DUE TO A GEOGRAPHICAL FACTOR.
If your shirt gets dirty you can replace it. THERE ARE PEOPLE YOU CAN CALL. IF YOU DON'T TRY TO SOLVE YOUR OWN PROBLEMS DON'T EXPECT THEM TO BE SOLVED.
karter
06-09-2013, 04:54 PM
If they post it on a public forums they make it everyone's business thank you very much.
If people in for example Africa are happy without all of the pleasures that we get living in a first world country, then they are just being ungrateful. Genuinely ungrateful, you would damage the body you're given to live in because life puts you down, sulking in a corner cutting your arms isn't going to solve anything. Once again I say grow some balls and try and change your life instead of doing something stupid and endangering your life.
Being lectured by a teenager online isn't going to help them either. You are just...unbelievable. Stop being sad.. that's the best advice you can give? That's like going to someone with a broken leg and saying "Start walking". Having the best facilities with you does not ensure happiness, no one in the world is happy (if you claim you are happy then good for you I guess)
What a lovely job of solving people's problems right? Insulting and humiliating them, telling them they are ungrateful and idiots, literally doing the opposite of what you should do. I hope you know that genuine cases of self harm are caused by mental disorders and are not so easy to cure as you think
Succubus
06-09-2013, 04:54 PM
If your shirt gets dirty you can replace it. THERE ARE PEOPLE YOU CAN CALL. IF YOU DON'T TRY TO SOLVE YOUR OWN PROBLEMS DON'T EXPECT THEM TO BE SOLVED.
Ever thought about the fact people might be too nervous to contact someone? Self-harming is a coping mechanism. Some people who do self harm have trouble with expressing their stress/anger in forms (such as talking). Yes OK you can get help, but it's scary for many. It's not an easy topic to talk to face to face either.
MKR&*42
06-09-2013, 04:59 PM
I am sure a 13 year old who feels victimised by everyone at school and in public. Plus their own family, would find it incredibly easy to acquire the courage to confide in a stranger about their issues. i see no fault with that assumption at all.
Ever thought about the fact people might be too nervous to contact someone? Self-harming is a coping mechanism. Some people who do self harm have trouble with expressing their stress/anger in forms (such as talking). Yes OK you can get help, but it's scary for many. It's not an easy topic to talk to face to face either.
It's scarier to cut yourself.
Succubus
06-09-2013, 05:46 PM
It's scarier to cut yourself.
Depends on the person. Some people find it easier to communicate with people whilst others have other coping mechanisms, like I said.
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 05:52 PM
It's scarier to cut yourself.
My point probably has nothing to do with what you just said
But
Cutting isnt THAT scary i spose, Because you ddo it for relief, emotional relief instead of build up in your head. The build up can get so terrible and i dont know.
The scary part is what ACTUALLY CAUSED YOU TO CUT. That you felt so sad angry depressed worthless that you needed relief in the first place wether it be bullying, family issues. They all take a toll on you. Some people dont have parents to tell, Friends to trust, or even the courage. Cutting is a terrible thing, i think technically a mental illness because most of the time you cant stop. So by you calling the, idiots or ungrateful is rude, because theyre doing something to stop stress and actually try and cope instead of giving up
MKR&*42
06-09-2013, 06:01 PM
I think its more painful , I don't know about scary as some people aren't really afraid after they've done it once and adjust to that kind of habit. I have always found telling feelings to people much scarier than anything else.
Cerys
06-09-2013, 06:17 PM
If your shirt gets dirty you can replace it. THERE ARE PEOPLE YOU CAN CALL. IF YOU DON'T TRY TO SOLVE YOUR OWN PROBLEMS DON'T EXPECT THEM TO BE SOLVED.
lol no thats the worst excuse etc ever.
sorry i killed you, but you can just buy a new life
I'm actually disgusted by your responses to this, ngl..
lol no thats the worst excuse etc ever.
sorry i killed you, but you can just buy a new life
I'm actually disgusted by your responses to this, ngl..
sorry i killed you?
what are you on about...
your point was completely irrelevant.
genuinely completely irrelevant.
what im saying is that if your family doesnt love you and disowns u for example then there are people who you can go to, there are families with open arms who will take you in
Cerys
06-09-2013, 06:28 PM
sorry i killed you?
what are you on about...
your point was completely irrelevant.
genuinely completely irrelevant.
what im saying is that if your family doesnt love you and disowns u for example then there are people who you can go to, there are families with open arms who will take you in
not really.. the same applies to this.
Ok so you drop a vase, it's smashed. You can pick up all the pieces and glue it back together but you can still see the damage. You can still see the cracks. No matter how hard you try, no matter how much help you get in fixing the vase it will always be damaged never to be fully repaired.
The vase is someones life obv, dunno if you can understand this..
not really.. the same applies to this.
Ok so you drop a vase, it's smashed. You can pick up all the pieces and glue it back together but you can still see the damage. You can still see the cracks. No matter how hard you try, no matter how much help you get in fixing the vase it will always be damaged never to be fully repaired.
The vase is someones life obv, dunno if you can understand this..
get a new vase
Cerys
06-09-2013, 06:30 PM
get a new vase
yeah but you can't really get a new life can you mate..
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 06:35 PM
get a new vase
Thats what shes saying, You cant buy a new life.
Also buying a new vase would technically be giving up on picking up the pieces and making it look perfect again
Once you cut, its hard to give up
Its hard telling people feelings as Intersocial; Said
You GENUINELY dont understand.
no you can get a new life...
you leave your old life in the past, all your hatred n unhappiness
and you start afresh with new friends new family, a new life.
you can do that in a first world country
Cerys
06-09-2013, 06:59 PM
no you can get a new life...
you leave your old life in the past, all your hatred n unhappiness
and you start afresh with new friends new family, a new life.
you can do that in a first world country
no, you cant
the damage is still there. you can never forget the pain you've been through.
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 07:00 PM
no you can get a new life...
you leave your old life in the past, all your hatred n unhappiness
and you start afresh with new friends new family, a new life.
you can do that in a first world country
No its not that easy for most people, its in your heady forever pretty much,you cant forget the memories, old times. And i hate to say it but if you cat you cant forget the scars
No its not that easy for most people, its in your heady forever pretty much,you cant forget the memories, old times. And i hate to say it but if you cat you cant forget the scars
Then don't cut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Succubus
06-09-2013, 07:01 PM
no you can get a new life...
you leave your old life in the past, all your hatred n unhappiness
and you start afresh with new friends new family, a new life.
you can do that in a first world country
OK no. Yes you can get new friends and technically speaking what people call a "new life" as in changing the way you life your life. But you can't always escape your past. What is there isn't easy to forget. It's not just the past that causes people to self-harm, or hatred in fact. Some people do it and they don't even know why. Don't assume it's ******* easy to change what has happened.
"Hey I'll just forget my abusive background, hey I'll just forget I got bullied, hey I'll just forget that my family doesn't love me". For the sake of it please read into this!
Cerys
06-09-2013, 07:02 PM
so oli; if you got physically and mentally abused every day for 14 years, tormented, harrassed, beaten up and so on, you'd just be able to forget about it just like that and go somewhere else...
i really doubt it tbh.
Succubus
06-09-2013, 07:06 PM
Then don't cut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A person who self-harms is likely to have gone through very difficult, painful experiences as a child or young adult. At the time, they probably had no one they could confide in, so didn't receive the support and the emotional outlet they needed to deal with it. The experience might have involved physical violence, emotional abuse, or sexual abuse. They might have been neglected, separated from someone they loved, been bullied, harassed, assaulted, isolated, put under intolerable pressure, made homeless, sent into care, into hospital or to other institutions.
Ah yes, lets forget the reasons why people self-harm, lets forget people have triggers. lets forget people have gone through intolerable experiences. Honestly, stop bloody saying "then don't cut" when you probably have no idea how it is in the first place.
But sometimes, ordinary life is just so difficult that self-harm is the only way to cope with it.
yes, i wouldn't remember all the bad things i would simply shut them out like i do now, i dont cut i just get angry @ every1 on habbo
if ur abused for 14 years, and you get a new loving family, you're going to forget all ur past sadness and you're going to learn 2 love ur new family
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 07:06 PM
Oli, you are closed minded in a sake.
Many people deal with self harm and going back to your first statements of 'Their all idiots'
1) You have no idea what theyre going through, even though weve said many examples to you
2) There is alot of other ways to self harm other than cutting
3) Once you do it, Its hard to stop. I Dont want to admit anything but it is hard.
4) Open your mind up a little, you never know who could be hiding cuts or dark thoughts.
Succubus
06-09-2013, 07:09 PM
yes, i wouldn't remember all the bad things i would simply shut them out like i do now, i dont cut i just get angry @ every1 on habbo
if ur abused for 14 years, and you get a new loving family, you're going to forget all ur past sadness and you're going to learn 2 love ur new family
You're not going to forget something like that. My friend was abused for years. She still talks about it till present day because it saddens her. It's not easy. Stop thinking because something good happens to someone it automatically makes someone happy because it doesn't.
You're not going to forget something like that. My friend was abused for years. She still talks about it till present day because it saddens her. It's not easy. Stop thinking because something good happens to someone it automatically makes someone happy because it doesn't.
if you're going to dwell on the past whats the point on living in the present, its a gift afterall
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 07:12 PM
In year 7, i got bullied and teased, and im ok i spose with the guy now, but everytime he makes a SIMPLE remark to me, it sparks a nerve in me and i can just burst into tears, and that was only littlE, Imagine some big things some people
---------- Post added 06-09-2013 at 08:14 PM ----------
Um.. You cant just forget it. Its hard. Mentally scarred...? Stuff that brought you happiness stays in your mind does it not?! So things that Caused most of youre sadness for a majority of your life WILL Stay for the MAJORITY of your life!
Succubus
06-09-2013, 07:15 PM
if you're going to dwell on the past whats the point on living in the present, its a gift afterall
Oh for **** sake. It's not always the past which causes people to self harm. People dwell on the past because more than likely they might have not got closure.
Recent research focusing on young people suggests that 10 per cent of 15 to 16 year olds have self-harmed, usually by cutting themselves, and that girls are far more likely to self-harm than boys. The most common reason is 'to find relief from a terrible situation'. Young people are often under great pressure within their families, from school and among their peers. Many young people report having friends who they know to also self-harm.
The research suggests that young people who self-harm are much more likely to have low self-esteem, to be depressed and anxious. They seem to be facing more problems in life, but may be less good at coping with them. They may retreat into themselves, feeling angry, blaming themselves, tending to drink and smoke too much and to use more recreational drugs. They confide in fewer friends, and tend not to talk to their parents or other adults, or to ask for the help they need.
Not everyone can be as confident as you, OK? People are different and you have to accept that and take that into account. Stop thinking that it's just the past that causes thing. Consider that sometimes it can be mental health reasons, stress, drugs. It's horrible trying to confide in someone.
everyone should just be me
happy and proud of who they are
determined to live a happy life even if theirs is ****
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 07:21 PM
You clearly do not understand
You clearly do not understand
cutting doesn't help anything whichever way you look at it.
Cerys
06-09-2013, 07:24 PM
everyone should just be me
happy and proud of who they are
determined to live a happy life even if theirs is ****
You know what.
*REMOVED*
I think you should just step back for one second and take your head out from up your ass and realise that what your saying is inconsiderate, insensitive and it is hurting people, causing more damage than you could ever imagine in your perfect little world.
Edited by Dilusionate (Forum Moderator): Please do not be rude towards other members, thanks
Succubus
06-09-2013, 07:24 PM
everyone should just be me
happy and proud of who they are
determined to live a happy life even if theirs is ****
If you've got mental health (http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/mentalhealth) or problems, such as depression (http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/mentalhealth/depression) or severe anxiety (http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/mentalhealth/anxietyandstress), you have a higher risk of self-harming. But if you do self-harm, it doesn't necessarily mean that you have a serious mental illness - it may just be that you're feeling alone, isolated, stressed, frustrated, or angry about issues out of your control. Such issues might include one or more of the following:
Low self-esteem (http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/wellbeing/bodyimageandselfesteem/lowesteem)
Poor body image (http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/wellbeing/bodyimageandselfesteem/distortedimage)
Bullying (http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/wellbeing/lookingafteryourself/beatbullying) or discrimination
Unwanted pregnancy (http://www.thesite.org/sexandrelationships/safersex/unplannedpregnancy/shouldihaveababy)
A serious illness that affects the way you feel about yourself
Worries over sexuality (http://www.thesite.org/sexandrelationships/sexuality/exploration/exploringyoursexuality)
Cultural/racial difficulties
Feelings of rejection, lack of love and affection by parents or carers
Parents getting divorced (http://www.thesite.org/sexandrelationships/familyandfriends/family/dealingwithdivorce)/family breakdown and conflict
Physical, sexual or emotional abuse
Domestic violence (http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmoney/law/victims/malevictimsofdomesticviolence)
A bereavement (http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/wellbeing/lookingafteryourself/dealingwithdeath)
Work pressures (http://www.thesite.org/workandstudy/working/workwelfare/workrelatedstress)
Money worries (http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmoney/money/cashflow/cantpaythebills)
Depression (http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/mentalhealth/depression)
The self-harm or suicide of someone close to you
Isolation and loneliness
Anxiety (http://www.thesite.org/healthandwellbeing/mentalhealth/anxietyandstress/anxietygettinghelp)
Drug and alcohol misuse (http://www.thesite.org/drinkanddrugs/drugsafety/drugsandyourbody)
Relationship problems (http://www.thesite.org/sexandrelationships/couples/relationshipissues)
"everyone should just be me" - sorry, but everyone is different. People come from different backgrounds. People have different education. People have different issues. People can cope where others can't. How can people be happy and proud of who they are when it's people like you criticizing them for coping. People try to be happy but it can be others who bring them down. It's probably not their fault for some of the issues they have.
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cutting doesn't help anything whichever way you look at it.
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myles
06-09-2013, 07:25 PM
this has been taken way too seriously
end it
You know what.
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I think you should just step back for one second and take your head out from up your ass and realise that what your saying is inconsiderate, insensitive and it is hurting people, causing more damage than you could ever imagine in your perfect little world.
ok so you're saying i care for nobody but myself, yet im not in anyway showing that so ok
my perfect little world isnt so perfect, but im happy n thats all that counts.
and i am being open minded, im just sharing my opinion with the group.
you're really mean you know cerys
unfriending u
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 07:35 PM
@vls i know but alot of people care about it and have down it, olis pretty much saying theyre idiots for it
Oli
its does
emotionally for a while
Cerys
06-09-2013, 07:37 PM
ok so you're saying i care for nobody but myself, yet im not in anyway showing that so ok
my perfect little world isnt so perfect, but im happy n thats all that counts.
and i am being open minded, im just sharing my opinion with the group.
you're really mean you know cerys
unfriending u
Yes, you do only care about yourself. If you didn't you'd realise that people have their own problems and they have their own method of getting through it.
Yeh but it must be perfect because according to you nobody has problems, and if they do have problems they can just forget them in a flash!!
If you were being open minded you'd understand that people are DIFFERENT and they manage their lives in DIFFERENT ways.
w o w you just ruined my evening there mate, unfriending me is a low blow
heartbroken.
oli; do you agree that all kinds of self harm are stupid or just cutting?
am surprised this is all going on
tbh im not saying i agree but everyone has their opinions on it
no point in trying to back up your side because oli obv thinks different
same as you're saying everyones different, he obv thinks differently like even if you think he isnt right
its his opinion and he obv isnt gna be changing it
Yes, you do only care about yourself. If you didn't you'd realise that people have their own problems and they have their own method of getting through it.
Yeh but it must be perfect because according to you nobody has problems, and if they do have problems they can just forget them in a flash!!
If you were being open minded you'd understand that people are DIFFERENT and they manage their lives in DIFFERENT ways.
w o w you just ruined my evening there mate, unfriending me is a low blow
heartbroken.
u just lost a gr8 friend!!!
and i still dont get how im only caring about myself but o k k k
whos saying i dont understand people are different? didnt say that once but o k k k
and its stupid if someone dwells on the bad parts of life, whats the point in that, if you're just gunna be miserable the entire time theres no point in you even being here, life is meant to be fun and if you're not gunna enjoy it ur just a waste
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oli; do you agree that all kinds of self harm are stupid or just cutting?
cutting especially
what other types do u mean
Cerys
06-09-2013, 07:46 PM
u just lost a gr8 friend!!!
and i still dont get how im only caring about myself but o k k k
whos saying i dont understand people are different? didnt say that once but o k k k
and its stupid if someone dwells on the bad parts of life, whats the point in that, if you're just gunna be miserable the entire time theres no point in you even being here, life is meant to be fun and if you're not gunna enjoy it ur just a waste
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cutting especially
what other types do u mean
Other types could be starvation, drinking toxic fluids, burning yourself, pulling your hair out and so on.
....you're unbelievable. I don't understand how someone can be such a little ****.
u just lost a gr8 friend!!!
and i still dont get how im only caring about myself but o k k k
whos saying i dont understand people are different? didnt say that once but o k k k
and its stupid if someone dwells on the bad parts of life, whats the point in that, if you're just gunna be miserable the entire time theres no point in you even being here, life is meant to be fun and if you're not gunna enjoy it ur just a waste
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cutting especially
what other types do u mean
alcohol, drugs etc are all forms of self harm (i'm sure you have admitted to doing both)
you're harming your body with these its just not as obvious lol..
alcohol, drugs etc are all forms of self harm (i'm sure you have admitted to doing both)
you're harming your body with these its just not as obvious lol..
yh ive done both
theyre not good but im still gunna say i used them to have a good time ~ to enjoy life
wixard
06-09-2013, 07:48 PM
oli m8 no offence but your arguments are weak as
especially the 'get a new family' one...lol
yh ive done both
theyre not good but im still gunna say i used them to have a good time ~ to enjoy life
using them could probably be described as a relief? people find cutting themselves a relief in a sense... both are self harm, just because one is less obvious doesn't make it any different lol
using them could probably be described as a relief? people find cutting themselves a relief in a sense... both are self harm, just because one is less obvious doesn't make it any different lol
i dont use them as a relief, i use them as a chance to let my hair down more than usual
theyre not necessary to have a good time but they certainly help everyone become more comfortable n friendly
i dont use them as a relief, i use them as a chance to let my hair down more than usual
theyre not necessary to have a good time but they certainly help everyone become more comfortable n friendly
make your mind up?? it seems you can't decide whether or not you do it for fun or relief????? if they make you feel more comfortable surely that's some sort of relief
never understood how putting yourself in physical pain can help your emotions. all it does is increase the number of problems you have because now you have to worry about "pls no infections, ow this hurts, stop stop looking at me".
communication i feel will always be the best form of help.
make your mind up?? it seems you can't decide whether or not you do it for fun or relief????? if they make you feel more comfortable surely that's some sort of relief
fine u win this 1 comity
but drinking isnt the same thing as cutting, they are completely different situations
people drink just to have a laugh, people cut so that they feel physical pain
Succubus
06-09-2013, 07:57 PM
never understood how putting yourself in physical pain can help your emotions. all it does is increase the number of problems you have because now you have to worry about "pls no infections, ow this hurts, stop stop looking at me".
communication i feel will always be the best form of help.
For me physical pain is much worse than emotional pain, therefore when I focus on physical pain I forget about emotional pain. Its temporary, obviously. Some use the fact that when the blood leaves, it's there issues going away. People do it for different reasons but I hope that helps you understand a little?
Communication is great when you're not nervous! I agree, but it's not always easy :P
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 07:58 PM
never understood how putting yourself in physical pain can help your emotions. all it does is increase the number of problems you have because now you have to worry about "pls no infections, ow this hurts, stop stop looking at me".
communication i feel will always be the best form of help.
I know what you mean but idk some people dont worry about that i mean i sure would like if it was that severe, but it does help, maybe not everyone
i've just read as much of this thread as i can be bothered and jesus christ oli i dont even know where to begin. everything u have said is stupid as ****
do u believe wat u r saying? r u trolling?
:S
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i've just read as much of this thread as i can be bothered and jesus christ oli i dont even know where to begin. everything u have said is stupid as ****
do u believe wat u r saying? r u trolling?
:S
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so you're saying cutting isnt a stupid thing to do?
you're saying its clever?
Cerys
06-09-2013, 08:00 PM
fine u win this 1 comity
but drinking isnt the same thing as cutting, they are completely different situations
people drink just to have a laugh, people cut so that they feel physical pain
Tbh, one of my friends who cuts says that he does it so not only it is his relief, but it is also so he knows that he can still feel pain. He feels numb from everything he has gone through etcetc
if you see what I mean.
There's so many reasons to cut, so it is ridiculous to say that every one of these reasons makes you an idiot/ungrateful/whatever else you said
fine u win this 1 comity
but drinking isnt the same thing as cutting, they are completely different situations
people drink just to have a laugh, people cut so that they feel physical pain
but drink is self harm to an extent!! you just part-take in it so you agree with it lol
karter
06-09-2013, 08:01 PM
everyone should just be me
happy and proud of who they are
determined to live a happy life even if theirs is ****
also a stubborn nature and stinking personality :¬:
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 08:01 PM
this might be just silly me but isnt like over drinking, binge drinking technically self harm idk
Youre harming your liver? For future and mentally
IDK BINGE IDK
Tbh, one of my friends who cuts says that he does it so not only it is his relief, but it is also so he knows that he can still feel pain. He feels numb from everything he has gone through etcetc
if you see what I mean.
There's so many reasons to cut, so it is ridiculous to say that every one of these reasons makes you an idiot/ungrateful/whatever else you said
why doesnt he pinch himself instead?
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this might be just silly me but isnt like over drinking, binge drinking technically self harm idk
Youre harming your liver? For future and mentally
IDK BINGE IDK
yh comity is saying that
so you're saying cutting isnt a stupid thing to do?
you're saying its clever?
IM NOT LABELING CUTTERS THEY DONT NEED TO BE LABELLED ANYTHING. PPL THAT CUT R NOT STUPID.
U HOWEVER R STUPID!!!
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 08:04 PM
why doesnt he pinch himself instead? are you taking the mickey? idk
IM NOT LABELING CUTTERS THEY DONT NEED TO BE LABELLED ANYTHING. PPL THAT CUT R NOT STUPID.
U HOWEVER R STUPID!!!
so cutting is a clever thing to do?
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why doesnt he pinch himself instead? are you taking the mickey? idk
yeah that is much less severe than taking a knife to ur skin? ...
Cerys
06-09-2013, 08:06 PM
Ok I'm done with this.
You're a pathetic little troller who clearly has nothing better to do other than make ridiculous 'points' about a topic you know nothing about on the internet.
Welldone, your life so far is going fab, keep it up.
For me physical pain is much worse than emotional pain, therefore when I focus on physical pain I forget about emotional pain. Its temporary, obviously. Some use the fact that when the blood leaves, it's there issues going away. People do it for different reasons but I hope that helps you understand a little?
Communication is great when you're not nervous! I agree, but it's not always easy :P
I have quite a few friends who have cut (im not saying your wrong btw because obviously if that works for you then w.e) but they always saw their cuts as a constant reminder and no just got worse n worse.
I know what you mean but idk some people dont worry about that i mean i sure would like if it was that severe, but it does help, maybe not everyone
all im saying is there is more appropriate methods to relieve yourself of stress, pls it also isn't fair on others who legit care for you.
lemons
06-09-2013, 08:08 PM
pinch yourself lmfao i can't ahahhaha
Ok I'm done with this.
You're a pathetic little troller who clearly has nothing better to do other than make ridiculous 'points' about a topic you know nothing about on the internet.
Welldone, your life so far is going fab, keep it up.
what ridic points
why wouldnt you just pinch yourself if you feel numb? pinching yourself still hurts but it doesnt leave a lasting effect.
Samantha
06-09-2013, 08:09 PM
Does it matter if cutting is/isn't clever or is/isn't stupid? Tell someone who cuts not to cut surely that's not helping them and it could easily cut more. You're calling them idiots, stupid etc. adding on to all the pressure they're already feeling. They don't feel happy, why would telling them not to do something help? You can't get a new life, you can change your life, but it will never be new no matter what you do. You will have those memories even if they're stored in your long term memory, it could just be a simple trigger that sets it off, all that hurt and abuse suffered, that sadness you felt. You're entitled to your opinion, but people on this forum may/may not self harm, so before you try to reply actually show some form of empathy or sympathy even if you're against it, you never know it may just help or change your views.
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.......... ...
no1 is saying its clever to cut. no1 is encouraging cutting as a clever thing to do. so pls stop repeating urself
karter
06-09-2013, 08:11 PM
I don't know if he's trolling right now or serious but if he has kids some day, I genuinely hope they don't come for his advice.
Imagine coming to your dad for help and his reply is "Grow a pair" :rolleyes_
Does it matter if cutting is/isn't clever or is/isn't stupid, tell someone who cuts not to cut surely that's not helping them and it could easily cut more. You're calling them idiots, stupid etc. adding on to all the pressure they're already feeling. They don't feel happy, why would telling them not to do something help. You can't get a new life, you can change your life, but it will never be new no matter what you do. You will have those memories even if they're stored in your long term memory, it could just be a simple trigger that sets it off, all that hurt and abuse suffered, that sadness you felt. You're entitled to your opinion, but people on this forum may/may not self harm, so before you try to reply actually show some form of empathy or sympathy even if you're against it, you never know it may just help or change your views.
i do feel sorry for them but its still not a very clever thing to do if one was to cut themselves...
i know quite a few people who cut, and im not targeting any of u but half of them do it to get the attention of others around them, some others are depressed but it is still a very stupid thing to do, you should trust in the people who are close to you n mayb u wont need to cut yourself
Succubus
06-09-2013, 08:12 PM
I have quite a few friends who have cut (im not saying your wrong btw because obviously if that works for you then w.e) but they always saw their cuts as a constant reminder and no just got worse n worse.
Yeah, unfortunately it's one of them things. But it varies from people to people. And what you said to rihanna-cool is true, but different methods work for others where they don't for others. They suggest rubber bands to snap against your wrist when you have an urge. It did work but after a while it wasn't enough. I do suggest that people seek help though, it's tough but it will be worth it in the long run :P
I don't know if he's trolling right now or serious but if he has kids some day, I genuinely hope they don't come for his advice.
Imagine coming to your dad for help and his reply is "Grow a pair" :rolleyes_
i would never let it get to the situation where they feel they need to cut themselves
karter
06-09-2013, 08:13 PM
DYING AT "PINCHING YOURSELF" OH MYGOD
why don't you drink orange juice instead of alcohol when you are sad
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i would never let it get to the situation where they feel they need to cut themselves
You'll most probably be one of the factor for it :S
y is she still saying its not a clever thing to do........no1 is encouraging ppl to cut.......:S
obv no1 wants any1 to cut.....its not a gd thing and no1 has said its a gd thing.....
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mrwoooooooo
06-09-2013, 08:17 PM
lulz what did i start
y is she still saying its not a clever thing to do........no1 is encouraging ppl to cut.......:S
obv no1 wants any1 to cut.....its not a gd thing and no1 has said its a gd thing.....
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if its not clever it must be stupid dot dot dot
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DYING AT "PINCHING YOURSELF" OH MYGOD
why don't you drink orange juice instead of alcohol when you are sad
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You'll most probably be one of the factor for it :S
but you dont only drink alcohol when you're sad, you drink it for all different occasions
Cerys
06-09-2013, 08:21 PM
if its not clever it must be stupid dot dot dot
really.... are you freaking serious...
So uhm, eating a bag of quavers isn't clever, but nor is it stupid.
Picking up the fork before the knife isn't clever, nor is it stupid.
Cutting yourslef isn't clever and it's not stupid...
where do you go to school man..
karter
06-09-2013, 08:24 PM
if its not clever it must be stupid dot dot dot
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but you dont only drink alcohol when you're sad, you drink it for all different occasions
Genuinely ungrateful, you would damage the body you're given to live in
Seriously, if they're living in a first world country and decide to damage their own bodies? It's just terribly ungrateful.
but that's still hurting your body and according to you, life is a gift and "you only live once" so why would you do that oli, why
really.... are you freaking serious...
So uhm, eating a bag of quavers isn't clever, but nor is it stupid.
Picking up the fork before the knife isn't clever, nor is it stupid.
Cutting yourslef isn't clever and it's not stupid...
where do you go to school man..
besides theyre all different examples completely, cutting takes serious thought and if they come to the conclusion that they need to cut themselves...
it goes against the instinct of every living thing to harm yourself
oli the only thing that is stupid is u let's leave it at that
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mrwoooooooo
06-09-2013, 08:25 PM
really.... are you freaking serious...
So uhm, eating a bag of quavers isn't clever, but nor is it stupid.
Picking up the fork before the knife isn't clever, nor is it stupid.
Cutting yourslef isn't clever and it's not stupid...
where do you go to school man..
fyi your examples are clever imo
but that's still hurting your body and according to you, life is a gift and "you only live once" so why would you do that oli, why
to enjoy it even more than you already are you silly date!
Cerys
06-09-2013, 08:26 PM
besides theyre all different examples completely, cutting takes serious thought and if they come to the conclusion that they need to cut themselves...
it goes against the instinct of every living thing to harm yourself
i am trying to show you that not everything needs a 'clever' and 'stupid' label.
karter
06-09-2013, 08:29 PM
to enjoy it even more than you already are you silly date!
inb4 kidney and liver failure
if its not clever it must be stupid dot dot dot
that way you're stupid too coz you ain't sounding a bit clever to me dear :confused_
i am trying to show you that not everything needs a 'clever' and 'stupid' label.
you need to learn how to open a packet of crisps
you need to learn how to pick up a knife n fork
theyre both clever things if you compare to the intelligence of an animals
dogs are capable of many emotions, and they're able to feel sad for example, but they don't hurt themselves because of it, because it is the instinct of every animal to not hurt themselves, which is partly why pain and nerves exist, its your bodies way of telling you to stop that right now
The Don
06-09-2013, 08:42 PM
God i've missed habbox debates /s
There are so many differing factors and circumstances in self harming that you can't really group them all together nor can you label anyone who does it an idiot (well you can, but it would be a woefully ignorant thing to say). I think it's more to do with mental health issues rather than stupidity in majority of cases. Although i would agree that anyone who took part in #cut4bieber is stupid.
jfc oli you are literally ridiculous
it's fine to have an opinion.. but to be so rude about it? :rolleyes:
(i hate to do this but)
when i first hurt myself i wasn't even thinking how i usually would. like i didn't think to myself at the time i did it "oh i'm gonna hurt myself" i just did it because i needed to get away from everything... it's like i thought about it but i wasn't telling myself to do it and it just kinda happened and after it was all a blur lol, my mind wasn't saying "don't do this!!!! it's bad for u" for me that came wayyyy after
i don't think you should really judge it if you've never done it either. obviously people shouldn't feel like they have to do it nor is it the best option but for many people they believe it to be the only option (rather than something more serious) or just an 'easy' option for a quick release of pain. and u've gotta understand, u may think cutting yourself is scary but also thinking horrible thoughts in ur head could be equally as bad (or worse!!) soooo people would much rather 'distract' themselves and think about that.
as for the things that happen after cutting (like many people feel anxious about their cuts, hide them, feel ashamed, etc.) it's different for all people. i really hated the hiding bit but i realised that the relief it gave me was really great
also as for the happiness thing, happiness isn't a goal for everyone and u cannot be expected to be happy all the time. happiness for some people is hard to achieve (and it's totally okay and not their fault) and also bEING SAD ISN'T THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CUT. THEY MAY FEEL OTHER EMOTIONS TOO WHICH LEADS THEM TO IT. and ur point about bc we don't live in a third world country... .. ... are you ******* kidding me lol? you're so narrow minded.
sorry if i've repeated any of the points anyones said but he honestly disgusted me and this might not make any sense bc tired
also i liked this and thought it might be worth u reading
Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.It’s almost hard for me to take in because really, happiness has always been a goal. A destination. The end all be all of every day. What we all strive for. To be happy.
But it’s ok to not be happy. It’s ok to be sad, frustrated, worried, down…it’s ok. Because just like happiness they are moods. They are something just as ok to feel as happiness is. And when sometimes it seems like things are against you and one thing after another is just going…wrong. It’s ok to not be happy. And it’s ok to own it, to put it on and know that it’s how you feel. Because ignoring it, putting the other emotions in a box on a shelf…just means one day you have a really full box you can no longer ignore.
A box full of people who have let you down. People who have hurt and betrayed you. A box with anger over the things that blew up in your face. A box with regrets of the things you did, and maybe the things you didn’t do. A box with frustrations over things that didn’t go the way you think they should have. A box full of worries for the things that hang over your head. A box of bad days. A box that ends up making you anxious when you have to stuff more into it.
And I’m tired of feeling like these feelings aren’t ok. I’m tired of being filled with anxiety when I see certain names or when I’m reminded of the things I’ve stuffed into the box. I am tired of feeling pressure (pressure I’ve placed on my own shoulders) to place the destination of happiness above the reality of owning my emotions.
Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.
And just like all other moods, it’s not a permanent state of being. And that’s ok. I need to own all the other things when I feel them. Because they are moods. They are ok.
Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.
Eoin247
06-09-2013, 09:02 PM
Depression is an illness despite what many people say. Feeling the need to cut is one of the side effects of this particular illness, and like all illnesses, not everybody gets all the side effects.
That said, you shouldn't say that cutting is 'ok'. It's dangerous to do so. It's like people saying that it's ok to be obese, it's not right and unfair on vulnerable people.
if it happened, it happened for whatever reason and it doesn't mean that you're stupid or smart. But it's not fine to say that it was ok.
Elegance
06-09-2013, 09:03 PM
i haven't bothered reading most of this thread because your ignorance angers me to the point that i literally can not bare to read anymore so correct me if someone has already stated what i'm about to say or if i'm wrong about something.
cutting doesn't help anything whichever way you look at it.
actually it does, when someone cuts themselves their brain reacts to the pain by releasing endorphins, which immediately bring a calming affect and makes them feel somewhat happier, some people describe this as numbing the emotional pain. endorphins are really addictive and it's hard to give up immediately which is why people find it hard to stop cutting. people don't enjoy cutting they are just hooked on the relief that the releasing of endorphins provides. some people become dependent on endorphins as their brain eventually keeps needing more and more of the source to keep the addiction under control, just like a drug addiction, you keep taking the drugs to keep your drug addiction under control, in this case imagine the drugs as cutting, if you have developed this 'addiction' it is then too late to just give up and quit. when you try to stop cutting straight away you have withdrawal symptons and end up panicing, which just adds to the stress (in this case i understand why some people may think it just causes more problems and does not help).
endorphins are the same chemical that are released when you exercise and are your brains way of handling pain or dress to the body and they calm you down if you're upset, which is why some people prefer to take walks alone when they're sad because walking is a form of exercise and some people exercise to make them happy, but i know i certainly don't want to exercise when i'm sad but different people are different. like georgia stated above, people cut for all different reasons, not just because they're sad but because they are feeling other emotions.
half of them do it to get the attention of others around them, some others are depressed but it is still a very stupid thing to do, you should trust in the people who are close to you n mayb u wont need to cut yourself
speaking from experience, i personally don't believe anyone cuts for attention, i believe everyone has their reasons. some people cut because they feel completely lonely, this meaning they have no one around them to trust or to talk to, maybe they're tried to trust in the people who are close to them, as i know one of the reasons i began cutting was because of this exact point, i felt that the people around me didn't care enough about me, i was constantly isolated and felt that no one cared, infact no one knew about it except one person on this forum, with this made me overthink how lonely i actually was, i had no one to speak to other than one person who lives like 200 miles away from me, no one around me actually cared and i felt like i couldn't go through life with no one physically by my side. i had no one to trust in.
its stupid if someone dwells on the bad parts of life, whats the point in that, if you're just gunna be miserable the entire time theres no point in you even being here, life is meant to be fun and if you're not gunna enjoy it ur just a waste
sometimes people can only see the bad parts of life, if there are so many bad things in your life it is so hard to enjoy the good things or even understand the good things because you are so overwhelmed by the sadness that it slowly begins to take over your life, this is where depression have a big effect on you.
unless you have experienced cutting it's very hard to understand why it helps and until you have been in that situation you will never understand, no one should ever have to understand, if you don't understand how someone could cut themselves, good, you should never have to be that desperate to feel something.
every1 uniting to drag oli and do wat i couldnt :clap:
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jfc oli you are literally ridiculous
it's fine to have an opinion.. but to be so rude about it? :rolleyes:
(i hate to do this but)
when i first hurt myself i wasn't even thinking how i usually would. like i didn't think to myself at the time i did it "oh i'm gonna hurt myself" i just did it because i needed to get away from everything... it's like i thought about it but i wasn't telling myself to do it and it just kinda happened and after it was all a blur lol, my mind wasn't saying "don't do this!!!! it's bad for u" for me that came wayyyy after
i don't think you should really judge it if you've never done it either. obviously people shouldn't feel like they have to do it nor is it the best option but for many people they believe it to be the only option (rather than something more serious) or just an 'easy' option for a quick release of pain. and u've gotta understand, u may think cutting yourself is scary but also thinking horrible thoughts in ur head could be equally as bad (or worse!!) soooo people would much rather 'distract' themselves and think about that.
as for the things that happen after cutting (like many people feel anxious about their cuts, hide them, feel ashamed, etc.) it's different for all people. i really hated the hiding bit but i realised that the relief it gave me was really great
also as for the happiness thing, happiness isn't a goal for everyone and u cannot be expected to be happy all the time. happiness for some people is hard to achieve (and it's totally okay and not their fault) and also bEING SAD ISN'T THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CUT. THEY MAY FEEL OTHER EMOTIONS TOO WHICH LEADS THEM TO IT. and ur point about bc we don't live in a third world country... .. ... are you ******* kidding me lol? you're so narrow minded.
sorry if i've repeated any of the points anyones said but he honestly disgusted me and this might not make any sense bc tired
also i liked this and thought it might be worth u reading
Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.It’s almost hard for me to take in because really, happiness has always been a goal. A destination. The end all be all of every day. What we all strive for. To be happy.
But it’s ok to not be happy. It’s ok to be sad, frustrated, worried, down…it’s ok. Because just like happiness they are moods. They are something just as ok to feel as happiness is. And when sometimes it seems like things are against you and one thing after another is just going…wrong. It’s ok to not be happy. And it’s ok to own it, to put it on and know that it’s how you feel. Because ignoring it, putting the other emotions in a box on a shelf…just means one day you have a really full box you can no longer ignore.
A box full of people who have let you down. People who have hurt and betrayed you. A box with anger over the things that blew up in your face. A box with regrets of the things you did, and maybe the things you didn’t do. A box with frustrations over things that didn’t go the way you think they should have. A box full of worries for the things that hang over your head. A box of bad days. A box that ends up making you anxious when you have to stuff more into it.
And I’m tired of feeling like these feelings aren’t ok. I’m tired of being filled with anxiety when I see certain names or when I’m reminded of the things I’ve stuffed into the box. I am tired of feeling pressure (pressure I’ve placed on my own shoulders) to place the destination of happiness above the reality of owning my emotions.
Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.
And just like all other moods, it’s not a permanent state of being. And that’s ok. I need to own all the other things when I feel them. Because they are moods. They are ok.
Happiness is a mood-Not a destination.
i don't understand how someones mind would stop working and the only instruction given from the brain would be to cut urself
and we are constantly flooded with all these DIFFERENT options to take, theyre on buses, at school, on billboards, on the tv, on the internet, even on habbo, so why would anybody believe that their only choice would be to bring a blade to their skin? the idea just astounds me. yes happiness can be hard to achieve but who isn't aiming to be happy? that is a terrible outlook on life to aspire to be anything but happy
and that spoiler thing:
its all dependent on the fact that you focus on the past, but if you focus on the past its not going to change anything, like ive said before you should live in the present, its a gift, dont be ungrateful for it, love it, relish it and enjoy it, theres not point going back in time that doesnt matter.
ps im sorry if i upset all of u didnt realise it would all be taken to heart
i don't understand how someones mind would stop working and the only instruction given from the brain would be to cut urself
and we are constantly flooded with all these DIFFERENT options to take, theyre on buses, at school, on billboards, on the tv, on the internet, even on habbo, so why would anybody believe that their only choice would be to bring a blade to their skin? the idea just astounds me. yes happiness can be hard to achieve but who isn't aiming to be happy? that is a terrible outlook on life to aspire to be anything but happy
and that spoiler thing:
its all dependent on the fact that you focus on the past, but if you focus on the past its not going to change anything, like ive said before you should live in the present, its a gift, dont be ungrateful for it, love it, relish it and enjoy it, theres not point going back in time that doesnt matter.
ps im sorry if i upset all of u didnt realise it would all be taken to heart
(ignoring cutting bit bc i literally have made my point n it probably won't change but ok)
happiness isn't the aim for all people though, like for me i aim to just be satisfied with everything i've done with my life and think to myself that i couldn't have done anymore and that i tried my best to get their. if i'm happy along the way then sure that's great, but i'm not gonna aim for happiness, it's just a nice lil extra for me??
myles
06-09-2013, 09:12 PM
can people just leave oli alone he made a mistake you dont need to ******* abuse him over it
he is 16
no1 abusing him he is INFURIATING and deserves every1 writing essays at him
IzzyUhh
06-09-2013, 09:17 PM
Just everyones opinions matter, but when it comes to them being rude and i spose in some cases Hurtful, Its bad.
myles
06-09-2013, 09:17 PM
no1 abusing him he is INFURIATING and deserves every1 writing essays at himyes they are they are attacking him with long paragraphs and his little body probably cant deal with it
cant u see with his weak comebacks
bless his little heart he is trying but everyone needs to stop as i said he is only a 16 year old boy and still not at full mature age
Onirela
06-09-2013, 09:19 PM
this needs a signal boost right now
rosie seems to be talking a whole lot of sense
i haven't bothered reading most of this thread because your ignorance angers me to the point that i literally can not bare to read anymore so correct me if someone has already stated what i'm about to say or if i'm wrong about something.
actually it does, when someone cuts themselves their brain reacts to the pain by releasing endorphins, which immediately bring a calming affect and makes them feel somewhat happier, some people describe this as numbing the emotional pain. endorphins are really addictive and it's hard to give up immediately which is why people find it hard to stop cutting. people don't enjoy cutting they are just hooked on the relief that the releasing of endorphins provides. some people become dependent on endorphins as their brain eventually keeps needing more and more of the source to keep the addiction under control, just like a drug addiction, you keep taking the drugs to keep your drug addiction under control, in this case imagine the drugs as cutting, if you have developed this 'addiction' it is then too late to just give up and quit. when you try to stop cutting straight away you have withdrawal symptons and end up panicing, which just adds to the stress (in this case i understand why some people may think it just causes more problems and does not help).
endorphins are the same chemical that are released when you exercise and are your brains way of handling pain or dress to the body and they calm you down if you're upset, which is why some people prefer to take walks alone when they're sad because walking is a form of exercise and some people exercise to make them happy, but i know i certainly don't want to exercise when i'm sad but different people are different. like georgia stated above, people cut for all different reasons, not just because they're sad but because they are feeling other emotions.
speaking from experience, i personally don't believe anyone cuts for attention, i believe everyone has their reasons. some people cut because they feel completely lonely, this meaning they have no one around them to trust or to talk to, maybe they're tried to trust in the people who are close to them, as i know one of the reasons i began cutting was because of this exact point, i felt that the people around me didn't care enough about me, i was constantly isolated and felt that no one cared, infact no one knew about it except one person on this forum, with this made me overthink how lonely i actually was, i had no one to speak to other than one person who lives like 200 miles away from me, no one around me actually cared and i felt like i couldn't go through life with no one physically by my side. i had no one to trust in.
sometimes people can only see the bad parts of life, if there are so many bad things in your life it is so hard to enjoy the good things or even understand the good things because you are so overwhelmed by the sadness that it slowly begins to take over your life, this is where depression have a big effect on you.
unless you have experienced cutting it's very hard to understand why it helps and until you have been in that situation you will never understand, no one should ever have to understand, if you don't understand how someone could cut themselves, good, you should never have to be that desperate to feel something.
i haven't bothered reading most of this thread because your ignorance angers me to the point that i literally can not bare to read anymore so correct me if someone has already stated what i'm about to say or if i'm wrong about something.
actually it does, when someone cuts themselves their brain reacts to the pain by releasing endorphins, which immediately bring a calming affect and makes them feel somewhat happier, some people describe this as numbing the emotional pain. endorphins are really addictive and it's hard to give up immediately which is why people find it hard to stop cutting. people don't enjoy cutting they are just hooked on the relief that the releasing of endorphins provides. some people become dependent on endorphins as their brain eventually keeps needing more and more of the source to keep the addiction under control, just like a drug addiction, you keep taking the drugs to keep your drug addiction under control, in this case imagine the drugs as cutting, if you have developed this 'addiction' it is then too late to just give up and quit. when you try to stop cutting straight away you have withdrawal symptons and end up panicing, which just adds to the stress (in this case i understand why some people may think it just causes more problems and does not help).
endorphins are the same chemical that are released when you exercise and are your brains way of handling pain or dress to the body and they calm you down if you're upset, which is why some people prefer to take walks alone when they're sad because walking is a form of exercise and some people exercise to make them happy, but i know i certainly don't want to exercise when i'm sad but different people are different. like georgia stated above, people cut for all different reasons, not just because they're sad but because they are feeling other emotions.
speaking from experience, i personally don't believe anyone cuts for attention, i believe everyone has their reasons. some people cut because they feel completely lonely, this meaning they have no one around them to trust or to talk to, maybe they're tried to trust in the people who are close to them, as i know one of the reasons i began cutting was because of this exact point, i felt that the people around me didn't care enough about me, i was constantly isolated and felt that no one cared, infact no one knew about it except one person on this forum, with this made me overthink how lonely i actually was, i had no one to speak to other than one person who lives like 200 miles away from me, no one around me actually cared and i felt like i couldn't go through life with no one physically by my side. i had no one to trust in.
sometimes people can only see the bad parts of life, if there are so many bad things in your life it is so hard to enjoy the good things or even understand the good things because you are so overwhelmed by the sadness that it slowly begins to take over your life, this is where depression have a big effect on you.
unless you have experienced cutting it's very hard to understand why it helps and until you have been in that situation you will never understand, no one should ever have to understand, if you don't understand how someone could cut themselves, good, you should never have to be that desperate to feel something.
whilst you're cutting, you're in pain. this pain is your brain telling you to stop doing it, you sub consciously dont want to be cutting clearly but if you're in pain you also consciously dont want to be cutting. and the fact that cutting releases a drug which calms you isn't a good thing, because as you said it's addictive so it is clearly not a helpful thing.
why did you cut if nobody was interested in talking to you? what made you think that you need to harm yourself?
---------- Post added 06-09-2013 at 10:23 PM ----------
(ignoring cutting bit bc i literally have made my point n it probably won't change but ok)
happiness isn't the aim for all people though, like for me i aim to just be satisfied with everything i've done with my life and think to myself that i couldn't have done anymore and that i tried my best to get their. if i'm happy along the way then sure that's great, but i'm not gonna aim for happiness, it's just a nice lil extra for me??
yes but if you complete your aim you're going to feel happy! do you get where im coming from?
oli its pretty evident that nothing is as simple as ur making it out to be pls stop
u r annoying i swear u just overlook everything its painful to read
whilst you're cutting, you're in pain. this pain is your brain telling you to stop doing it, you sub consciously dont want to be cutting clearly but if you're in pain you also consciously dont want to be cutting. and the fact that cutting releases a drug which calms you isn't a good thing, because as you said it's addictive so it is clearly not a helpful thing.
why did you cut if nobody was interested in talking to you? what made you think that you need to harm yourself?
---------- Post added 06-09-2013 at 10:23 PM ----------
yes but if you complete your aim you're going to feel happy! do you get where im coming from?
yes but not permanently? like my AIM isn't happiness, it's a bonus. i will feel satisfied with myself and possibly good about myself (or aspects i wasn't before). happiness could leave me soon after or it could take a while to go. i'm just saying feelings go and i'd rather strive for self approval(? /acceptance) than happiness lol
oli its pretty evident that nothing is as simple as ur making it out to be pls stop
u r annoying i swear u just overlook everything its painful to read
its obvious you're going to have no input so can u shoo pls
you're as bad as me, you're laughing at this which is many ppl are finding srs........................
so shutup
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yes but not permanently? like my AIM isn't happiness, it's a bonus. i will feel satisfied with myself and possibly good about myself (or aspects i wasn't before). happiness could leave me soon after or it could take a while to go. i'm just saying feelings go and i'd rather strive for self approval(? /acceptance) than happiness lol
but wouldn't you feel happy if you got your self approval or your acceptance, the fact you lived life the way you wanted to live it and you would feel proud and happy of urself, yeah i get where you're coming from but why can't your aim be to achieve happiness over and over again? like you wouldn't constantly feel satisfied because you're going to come across something to put you down arent you, so if your goal is to feel satisfied its also in a way to feel as happy as you can?
no1 is laughing
you're revelling in the fact that people are arguing against me...
you're as happy as can be you've finally got what you've wanted but were too scared to tell to my face b4 every1 else did
Onirela
06-09-2013, 09:41 PM
oli why don't you just stop posting your opinions and leave this thread alone
it's not benefiting you and it just winding everyone else up
the simple thing to do would be to shut up with the replies
ok ok
its obvious you're going to have no input so can u shoo pls
you're as bad as me, you're laughing at this which is many ppl are finding srs........................
so shutup
---------- Post added 06-09-2013 at 10:36 PM ----------
but wouldn't you feel happy if you got your self approval or your acceptance, the fact you lived life the way you wanted to live it and you would feel proud and happy of urself, yeah i get where you're coming from but why can't your aim be to achieve happiness over and over again? like you wouldn't constantly feel satisfied because you're going to come across something to put you down arent you, so if your goal is to feel satisfied its also in a way to feel as happy as you can?
because for me, i'd much rather want to learn to love/like/accept myself than to be happy. i don't have to aim for happiness? like it's an emotion and people will/might feel it anyway.
i'm not saying i wouldn't feel happy if i did that, i just mean i wouldn't mind if i wasn't happy (but it's likely i would be)
it's kinda like my gcse results, i was happy about them for.. an hour? i am no longer happy about them but i am proud of myself, i think i did well. i accepted that i tried my best and personally couldn't have done better. that's how i wanted to feel about myself. after the happiness went i just went back to my normal 'okay' state, but sometimes 'okay' has to be good enough.
we're going off topic now though lmao
you're revelling in the fact that people are arguing against me...
you're as happy as can be you've finally got what you've wanted but were too scared to tell to my face b4 every1 else did
cos ur ignorant and wouldnt listen. they said it better than i ever could because they have experienced it. u deserved it after telling ppl in this thread that have cut themselves and been in that horrible situation that they r stupid over and over
because for me, i'd much rather want to learn to love/like/accept myself than to be happy. i don't have to aim for happiness? like it's an emotion and people will/might feel it anyway.
i'm not saying i wouldn't feel happy if i did that, i just mean i wouldn't mind if i wasn't happy (but it's likely i would be)
it's kinda like my gcse results, i was happy about them for.. an hour? i am no longer happy about them but i am proud of myself, i think i did well. i accepted that i tried my best and personally couldn't have done better. that's how i wanted to feel about myself. after the happiness went i just went back to my normal 'okay' state, but sometimes 'okay' has to be good enough.
we're going off topic now though lmao
yeah im saying that you don't have to aim for happiness but whatever you aim for, if you achieve it, you're going to be happy right?
and congrats on ur results
yeah im saying that you don't have to aim for happiness but whatever you aim for, if you achieve it, you're going to be happy right?
and congrats on ur results
yes but only temporarily. it's like i don't wanna aim for something that could go so quickly. when i feel happy i try holding onto it for so long, i think i end up ruining it for myself.
i aim for stuff like grade achievements (at the moment) because they're something i can be proud of long term. i could remember i did well.
i do understand what you're saying i just guess happiness isn't my priority!
Eoin247
06-09-2013, 09:57 PM
yes but not permanently? like my AIM isn't happiness, it's a bonus. i will feel satisfied with myself and possibly good about myself (or aspects i wasn't before). happiness could leave me soon after or it could take a while to go. i'm just saying feelings go and i'd rather strive for self approval(? /acceptance) than happiness lol
I would consider self approval to be the biggest part of happiness ( maybe even happiness itself?) . The times I feel happy are when I approve of how I am when I'm doing something.
Rixion
06-09-2013, 09:58 PM
No and would never resort to doing so.
I would consider self approval to be the biggest part of happiness ( maybe even happiness itself?) . The times I feel happy are when I approve of how I am when I'm doing something.
i thought it would be like that too (i honestly thought getting good gcse's would boost my confidence, mood etc for a long time) but the feeling of happiness went so fast and i was back to how i normally was. i totally understand why though, but we're all different and telling someone how to think / what to do / what to strive for is just stupid because everyone's different and will want different things in life bc of the way they've been brought up or just their behaviour in general (ik there's sooooo many more things that contribute to why we feel how we do, but i'm just kinda saying that there's so many things that will make us think how we do tht it'd be silly to think that ur opinion is the only one out there and just bc u think something is ridiculous doesn't mean others will). we're all individual so we can't expect to want the same things and think the same way!! and i understand that i was quite aggressive with oli but i do honestly think he voiced his opinions in a bad way and he should have been more considerate to the other individuals in the thread, especially with a topic like this lol
I would consider self approval to be the biggest part of happiness ( maybe even happiness itself?) . The times I feel happy are when I approve of how I am when I'm doing something.
Yeah I would agree, but if you approve of yourself, you may not be happy you may just be satisfied? Not yet on the bar of happy but you're satisfactorily approving of yourself.
-:Undertaker:-
07-09-2013, 12:10 AM
No I have not.
Gave this a read through, and oh my goodness the ignorance. I'm going from right at the beginning, and by popular demand here's another long paragraph. Sorry if this double posts, iPads playing up
It's obvious oli; has no knowledge of mental health, hence why his claims are so false to people with the experiences. It's kind of like a 5 year old trying to explain where babies are from, they don't know until they are told.
From my past of cutting and self harm it was mainly surrounded by my anger more than my depression. I am an angry person, and I will say what I think but after I always feel bad. Before I was able to control this I used to cut to vent the anger. I honestly don't care what people think about this, it was a coping technique at the time. I would rather have scars on myself than lay a scar on another person.
What has living in a first world country got to do with anything? It's great that you have the ability to swan off to another life, with new friends (and new family? Good luck with that), but most people think of other people as well as themselves. I would rather stay in my broken life, and rebuild it into something better because I can bet it would be 99% better than making a new life and messing that one up as well.
Nice, I'm happy. YES IM CURED. If that was how it worked, depressive based illnesses would not exist.
That's all I can be bothered to comment on, at the end of the day everyone's brain is different. You may have a nice clear brain with the ability to screw your life into a ball and start a fresh, but not everyone's brains are the same. Maybe you should do some reading before replying with such outlandish claims.
Off the oli topic, this is a hard thread to open up on and the people that have I have huge respect for.
Chug!
09-09-2013, 09:50 AM
Nope, :)
I do understand how people feel so low, and do cut though.
Never self harmed, never will, don't see the point in it. But when people go against them because they are supposedly doing it for 'attention', you need to have a reality check. Some people do it for attention yes, but so many people do it because they have genuine problems and need help not abuse. When people are given crap about doing it, how do you then expect them to stop doing it when you've probably made them feel worse. I know a good few people who cut and they need help. My one friend started cutting as an alternative to suicidal thoughts and even though I think it's stupid, I give them encouragement and not hate. Love how some people joke about it though, calling them idiots just makes you one, not the other way round.
Aiden
13-09-2013, 06:15 PM
Nope. I understand why people might result to this. The other day a girl told me she used to because of bullying, when I asked her if it helped she said no, as I thought. It just makes me angry someone can make another person feel that way. :(
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