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e5
22-10-2013, 08:05 PM
I just want to get some opinions on how members of the forum feel about forum reputation!

Answer the poll honestly please and post your views on it. Poll is anonymous

Thanks

(Sorry to those that already replied, poll wouldn't work so I've created the thread again)

Thread closed by £lliott (Forum Moderator) to prevent further off topic posts and rule breaks

Calum0812
22-10-2013, 08:08 PM
Sure, its important. Its a quick way for people to either give you the thumbs up and say that was a good comment or to stick two fingers up to you and tell me how much of an idiot I am.

Samantha
22-10-2013, 08:08 PM
It's important to me in the fact that I've earnt it, for example I'd rather be given rep or give rep out for say quality posts, good graphics etc. than winning events or just answering a quiz, stuff like that :P.

Futz
22-10-2013, 08:08 PM
I don't care about my forum reputation level

but it's a nice feeling when someone reps you
and I love it when theres a comment

e5
22-10-2013, 08:09 PM
So do you think rep should always be earnt? You don't see it as something that just makes you look 'cooler' on the forum to have a higher rep power? :)

This is a general question to everyone btw :P

MKR&*42
22-10-2013, 08:12 PM
Sort of, not massively important but I do enjoy the feature :)

Lewis
22-10-2013, 08:12 PM
I see it as something that should be earned. Not through habbox events.

Samantha
22-10-2013, 08:12 PM
So do you think rep should always be earnt? You don't see it as something that just makes you look 'cooler' on the forum to have a higher rep power? :)

This is a general question to everyone btw :P

I believe earning rep should be more favoured than winning it. I like having a larger rep power though as when someone does earn that rep they don't just get 1 point or so. I rarely -rep unless it's something that I personally don't agree with or whatever.

Special
22-10-2013, 08:13 PM
not really it only a forum after all lol

FlyingJesus
22-10-2013, 08:14 PM
Literally the most important thing in my life

e5
22-10-2013, 08:15 PM
It's nice to have reputation as something earnt, I agree. Winning through comps is technically earnt, but i've always seen reputation as a feature on this forum as someone who posts decent quality posts and has earnt reputation that way. However, recently, reputation is giving out pointlessly more and more (+reps that is) and for competitons meaning you can't always really tell if someone is a decent poster or a good member of the community.

Do you look at someone with a high rep power and instantly 'respect' them more because of it? Do you look at them as more a valued member of the forum? (Again general question) :P

I believe earning rep should be more favoured than winning it. I like having a larger rep power though as when someone does earn that rep they don't just get 1 point or so. I rarely -rep unless it's something that I personally don't agree with or whatever.

Kardan
22-10-2013, 08:16 PM
So do you think rep should always be earnt? You don't see it as something that just makes you look 'cooler' on the forum to have a higher rep power? :)

This is a general question to everyone btw :P

Should be earned rather than be won. I consider users with a higher rep to be the more respectful users.

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Literally the most important thing in my life

73?! I'm sure your rep power wasn't that high a few weeks back :P

Samantha
22-10-2013, 08:18 PM
It's nice to have reputation as something earnt, I agree. Winning through comps is technically earnt, but i've always seen reputation as a feature on this forum as someone who posts decent quality posts and has earnt reputation that way. However, recently, reputation is giving out pointlessly more and more (+reps that is) and for competitons meaning you can't always really tell if someone is a decent poster or a good member of the community.

Do you look at someone with a high rep power and instantly 'respect' them more because of it? Do you look at them as more a valued member of the forum? (Again general question) :P

Yes I do, when I originally began at Habbox I'd look up more to people such as Catzsy, FlyingJesus, GoldenMerc etc. more than those who had 1 rep power/had just joined, not only that, but I think the latter two's post count also establish respect for them as they wouldn't have that much without quality posts.

e5
22-10-2013, 08:19 PM
Can't tell is serious or not:/ ;)
Literally the most important thing in my life

Samantha
22-10-2013, 08:21 PM
Can't tell is serious or not:/ ;)

Everything about Habbox is serious... it's life.

Yeah important to an extent though.

Futz
22-10-2013, 08:27 PM
I don't think I ever look at a users rep power & I don't think theres much correlation between respect and reputation points

for example flyingjesus has 73

but he's a pleb & no one likes him

I only +rep so a person feels special and warm inside for their good post/comment and so they know theres someone out there who agrees with them/approves of their post
I've never -repped anyone because I'm a lover

FlyingJesus
22-10-2013, 08:30 PM
It's true none of these nobodies like me, got most of my 24k rep long before the influx of complete non-identities to the forum so guess in my case it shows the history of the forum rather than current mood

e5
22-10-2013, 08:33 PM
but he's a pleb & no one likes him

I've never -repped anyone because I'm a lover

:rolleyes:





My view is, is that reputation is important and shows is something earnt. I mean, it's not easy to get a high reputation power. Someone people get high rep from having a fair few friends or "Klan" *cough* on the forum and people get it for good posts/posts that people agree with. I must admit, I do look at someones reputation and often judge them on that in some aspects. Like obviously, looking at someone like Okeanos' negative rep blocks, you wouldn't respect him or take him seriously, but if you see someone with 20+ rep power, you're more likely to take them seriously and have a good debate/discussion with them as they're reputation power shows they can post decent posts.

David
22-10-2013, 08:40 PM
I like the highish number I have but would rather it be removed and a like system be used.

lawrawrrr
22-10-2013, 08:44 PM
Yeah, for the same reason as Sam, I earnt it!


on phone xx

wixard
22-10-2013, 08:45 PM
did i post in this thread already i swear i did but i cant find it

dont care about rep never look at anyones ever
don't even look at my own or know what it is


BRING IN THE LIKE SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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also are you havin a larf samantha i have about 10 -reps from you

in the past 4 months or something

Absently
22-10-2013, 08:48 PM
i quite like the whole rep shtuff, i quite enjoying giving it out and i like receiving it too, i love looking at the comments i get from people and get all excited when i see someone has repped me!!

RyRy
22-10-2013, 09:02 PM
Here's a better question: Why change something that isn't broken and has no problems?

Rachel
22-10-2013, 09:11 PM
I enjoy the feature. Also earning is important feeling for me and for others as well I am sure. Winning rep in competitions is okay but that is not earn the same way!

Daltron
22-10-2013, 09:14 PM
I like it and love earning it :)

Chris
22-10-2013, 09:41 PM
I don't care for rep really. Sure it is nice to have a nice green bar there but I wouldn't be bothered if it was taken away. I would much prefer a like system.


Here's a better question: Why change something that isn't broken and has no problems?

The reputation system has many flaws. :P

RyRy
22-10-2013, 09:43 PM
I don't care for rep really. Sure it is nice to have a nice green bar there but I wouldn't be bothered if it was taken away. I would much prefer a like system.



The reputation system has many flaws. :P

Name just a few? I wouldn't say it has any flaws.

Samantha
22-10-2013, 09:47 PM
did i post in this thread already i swear i did but i cant find it

dont care about rep never look at anyones ever
don't even look at my own or know what it is


BRING IN THE LIKE SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---------- Post added 22-10-2013 at 09:47 PM ----------

also are you havin a larf samantha i have about 10 -reps from you

in the past 4 months or something

I've only -repped you once :P.

Another thing about rep which has been brought up is getting comments I guess, but it's not the end of the world either way. I'd prefer a rep system to a like system though.

Chris
22-10-2013, 09:57 PM
Name just a few? I wouldn't say it has any flaws.

Rep removal is a pain in the backside, rep abuse, the fact we give rep away as prizes.

FlyingJesus
22-10-2013, 10:12 PM
Can anyone state actual pros of a like system because surely it's just like making everyone have 1 rep and the only reason I've seen before is "it's on other forums!!"

Rep removal/abuse wouldn't be a problem if forum management allowed it to just happen as it happens instead of pretending that some is more pointless than others

AgnesIO
22-10-2013, 10:37 PM
Nice to have a decent number, and I do think as a new member you do look up to those with "high" reps - particularly if you are a young, new user.

I totally disagree with the old argument of its "daunting" though.

Matthew.
22-10-2013, 10:47 PM
Much rather have a like system, but there's nothing wrong with rep i guess.

AgnesIO
22-10-2013, 11:02 PM
Much rather have a like system, but there's nothing wrong with rep i guess.

Would it make you post more than once every 12 days? :L

David
22-10-2013, 11:08 PM
Rep removal is a pain in the backside, rep abuse, the fact we give rep away as prizes.

the 7 day wait before repping again

Gina
22-10-2013, 11:15 PM
i wouldnt say im interested in it but its fab to have a nice number ye

Daltron
22-10-2013, 11:34 PM
Nice to have a decent number, and I do think as a new member you do look up to those with "high" reps - particularly if you are a young, new user.

I totally disagree with the old argument of its "daunting" though.

I found the super high numbers daunting when I signed up.

I'm assuming many years ago people repped each other a lot more often because I can't imagine how people get 50+ rep with how this forum/community operates today. But I don't think that indicates it should be removed or anything

Kardan
22-10-2013, 11:40 PM
I found the super high numbers daunting when I signed up.

I'm assuming many years ago people repped each other a lot more often because I can't imagine how people get 50+ rep with how this forum/community operates today. But I don't think that indicates it should be removed or anything

Quite the opposite, it's people repping each other now that is causing the high numbers. Back in the day, everyone's rep powers got taken down because it was deemed that 50 was too high, after the change, you'd be lucky to find anyone over 15!

Samantha
22-10-2013, 11:44 PM
I found the super high numbers daunting when I signed up.

I'm assuming many years ago people repped each other a lot more often because I can't imagine how people get 50+ rep with how this forum/community operates today. But I don't think that indicates it should be removed or anything

It also depends on when they joined and how many posts they have too I guess as if you took them off of me it'd be 9/10 points without actually counting any reputation I have received.

Plebings
23-10-2013, 03:51 AM
i already see the rep system as a like/dislike for the post anyway, do -reps show up? i'd quite like to see them being visible in posts. i appreciate the anonymity of it, however i don't like that -reps affect someones score.

Lucy
23-10-2013, 03:59 AM
As a new member myself I do consider reputation a good thing, as it gives you an idea of the people on the forum. Also its nice to receive reputation as a new member :)

RyRy
23-10-2013, 04:15 AM
Rep removal is a pain in the backside, rep abuse, the fact we give rep away as prizes.

Rep removal is purely an administrative side of things, so it's not a case of "the system is broken", you just don't like it.

Rep abuse, well the rep system has been around long enough so figures somebody would find a way to abuse it. Just find a way to stop them from abusing it.

The fact you give rep away as prizes isn't a bad thing at all, everytime I go to a Habbox event that's the only prize I go for. I think again, it's one of those "You don't like it".

So I think that's from "many things wrong with rep" shortened down to one thing that's actually broken with the reputation system. The rest are just points you deem unnecessary.

buttons
23-10-2013, 05:18 AM
there is flaws, just cause u have so much rep points, doesn't mean you're automatically the most liked person. for example, someone could have 5000 points but only been repped on 100 occasions whereas someone else can have 4000 but have been repped on 200 occasions, surely the person who has been repped the most has more popular posts? a liked system would show how much times you've been repped compared to how much times you've been repped with someone with high power lol.

i don't post enough to get 'thanks/like' posts anymore so I'd prob like to keep my rep power as it shows ive been active member for years but still, not end of world i guess

e5
23-10-2013, 06:43 AM
I wasn't personally suggesting it ever changed. I didn't even know there was talk of it :P

Here's a better question: Why change something that isn't broken and has no problems?

FlyingJesus
23-10-2013, 06:43 AM
do -reps show up? i'd quite like to see them being visible in posts.

They don't despite multiple suggestions for it, but to be fair I've only been asking for it to happen for about 3 years so can't expect these things to be rushed through that quickly on hxf

e5
23-10-2013, 06:45 AM
Yeah, I re-made the thread :P
did i post in this thread already i swear i did but i cant find it

dont care about rep never look at anyones ever
don't even look at my own or know what it is


BRING IN THE LIKE SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---------- Post added 22-10-2013 at 09:47 PM ----------

also are you havin a larf samantha i have about 10 -reps from you

in the past 4 months or something

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Yes, it was this :P
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=167794
I found the super high numbers daunting when I signed up.

I'm assuming many years ago people repped each other a lot more often because I can't imagine how people get 50+ rep with how this forum/community operates today. But I don't think that indicates it should be removed or anything

Jaiisun
23-10-2013, 07:37 AM
I've always liked reputation. The "like" system someone suggested.. is that not just the same thing? Or would you not get anything for loads of likes?

Zak
23-10-2013, 08:28 AM
It's important in some ways and pointless in others. I would say I'm uninterested in forum rep but it is nice to give rep to those who deserve it and take rep away from idiots who make stupid posts

mrwoooooooo
23-10-2013, 09:52 AM
if its important to you then you're a sad **** with no life

Samantha
23-10-2013, 11:14 AM
I've always liked reputation. The "like" system someone suggested.. is that not just the same thing? Or would you not get anything for loads of likes?

A like system is basically removing negative rep, not having to wait a week to like a post again etc. I think.

Matthew
23-10-2013, 11:23 AM
I put that it is important to me as it best fits me I guess

I don't massively care about it, like I don't post for the sole reason of getting rep or anything but it is nice to receive/give it and there is a certain sense of satisfaction when you go up another 400 points and so get another rep power.

So yeah :)

Chippiewill
23-10-2013, 12:17 PM
Reps important to me, but I'd give it all up for a like system.


Name just a few? I wouldn't say it has any flaws.

Rep inflation, since rep powers are increasing proportionally with rep points the rate at which we gain rep points is exponentially increasing. Simply put it's not impressive that people have rep in the 10s of thousands even though five years ago it would be. I also don't like the frequency limitations on how often you can give it and the difficulty in giving it, I almost feel that a fully unrestricted system would be more representative if a little less meaningful.

GoldenMerc
23-10-2013, 12:46 PM
Reputation got ruined once Chris removes red rep of his little friends and himself. so its fairly pointless now.

e5
23-10-2013, 12:48 PM
Reputation got ruined once Chris removes red rep of his little friends and himself. so its fairly pointless now.

Chris hasn't done that for me, and makes everyone post it in the report rep. If he removed a red rep for no reason, then I'm sure it would be picked up on!

GoldenMerc
23-10-2013, 12:50 PM
Chris hasn't done that for me, and makes everyone post it in the report rep. If he removed a red rep for no reason, then I'm sure it would be picked up on!

It has, thats why a thread was posted about a year ago... you must of been too far up there to have read it 8-)

Yawn
23-10-2013, 01:12 PM
couldnt give *REMOVED* and its only friends and kiss asses +repping each other anyway

its only gd or interesting when u see a post where some1 completely annihilates another user and the post gets a million +reps

Edited by Nick (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't avoid the forum filter.

sex
23-10-2013, 01:32 PM
no i only lke when you see lots of rep on a post other than that its **** and crap
like system would be good except for people with high rep who **** over it

RyRy
23-10-2013, 01:54 PM
Sounds to me slashing the amount of rep power people have would be a good idea. That happened before did it not?

Chippiewill
23-10-2013, 03:11 PM
Sounds to me slashing the amount of rep power people have would be a good idea. That happened before did it not?

I would either scrap rep power (Fixed amount) or remove rep points influence on it (Just account age and post count)

wixard
23-10-2013, 03:27 PM
it's not really fair that the only people that want to keep rep are the people that used to pay for it (lol) and others with high rep

you have to cater for other users as well, a 'like this post' button would be so much better
just keep the rep stuck there forever so that people can see how much rep they had in the past if people are that obsessed

AgnesIO
23-10-2013, 03:29 PM
it's not really fair that the only people that want to keep rep are the people that used to pay for it (lol) and others with high rep

you have to cater for other users as well, a 'like this post' button would be so much better
just keep the rep stuck there forever so that people can see how much rep they had in the past if people are that obsessed

Of course it is fair - if you had earned something, it seems a bit odd to start at a blank slate again...

"Congratulations to all of you who have earned lots of money, however we have decided to create a currency where no matter how much you currently have, everyone shall now start at the same amount again".

Having said that, I still think my idea in a previous post could potentially work...

Sent from my HTC One X

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Sorry, should pointout my so called earlier post never actually posted ;)

Sent from my HTC One X

e5
23-10-2013, 03:52 PM
Didn't really know chris until I joined the moderation team so i'll take your comment on the chin :)

It has, thats why a thread was posted about a year ago... you must of been too far up there to have read it 8-)

wixard
23-10-2013, 04:09 PM
Of course it is fair - if you had earned something, it seems a bit odd to start at a blank slate again...

"Congratulations to all of you who have earned lots of money, however we have decided to create a currency where no matter how much you currently have, everyone shall now start at the same amount again".

Having said that, I still think my idea in a previous post could potentially work...

Sent from my HTC One X

---------- Post added 23-10-2013 at 04:36 PM ----------

Sorry, should pointout my so called earlier post never actually posted ;)

Sent from my HTC One X

but money has value, rep has no value? that's a terrible comparison.
you can just keep the rep that they had earned visible on their profile if people care that much then

David
23-10-2013, 04:11 PM
didnt vb5 replace rep with likes?
hxf should upgrade

wixard
23-10-2013, 04:15 PM
AGREED DAVE

WE NEED TO STOP LIVING IN THE PAST

FlyingJesus
23-10-2013, 04:16 PM
So literally the reason a like system is "better" is because it's totally pointless? If it's a rep system without limits or rewards then what does it actually do other than possibly serve as a venue for circle jerking

AgnesIO
23-10-2013, 04:21 PM
but money has value, rep has no value? that's a terrible comparison.
you can just keep the rep that they had earned visible on their profile if people care that much then

But the basis is the same, that if you earn something it is understandable that some people will be unhappy if that is then just wiped to 0. That is ultimately the exact same issue you face with wiping post count - the longer it stays, the harder it is to remove it.

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Can I ask again, can you find out how many +Reps members have had? If so, surely it could work if you just say 1 +Rep = 1 like - then the system really would show who makes the most productive posts, rather than who is just popular with the high rep point users? (I will now point out, I most certainly would lose out here, not benefit...)

Cerys
23-10-2013, 04:44 PM
It's important as in it makes me easier to say 'yeah I agree with this' or 'funni'
etc

*not reading this all so don't scream at me if something already is said* I don't think it should be removed or replaced by anything, I think it's a valued feature to the forum. Though it is rather annoying at times, imo

Inseriousity.
23-10-2013, 07:38 PM
When I was AGM, I put issues into two categories: fixed and flux (yes I copied off dr who). If I thought something was in the fixed category, I would defend it tooth and nail but if it was in the flux category I would leave it to the manager to decide for themselves what to do. I mention this because for me, rep is in the flux category but 'rep as a prize' is in the fixed category. I don't think it's as bad as some like to make out but it's just a system and it can be changed to something else that does the same thing.

However, I think rep is on the forum but it doesn't necessarily have to be limited to the forum alone. Rep should be a community thing (oh and another point, it's a good way to bring up the forum during events so there is a good advertising tool there that doesn't rely on spamming links); you earn your reputation through getting involved in the community and the reputation system is just a way of showing it and entering competitions and going to events is earning it in one way and having great posts is earning it in another way. Considering that you sound so against it Chris, I was always surprised at how inflated the rep prizes were for forum department competitions which could just as easily been done by the comps dept and received much less (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=743482&highlight=quiz+100+rep - sorry martin, first on the list).

-:Undertaker:-
23-10-2013, 07:44 PM
I'm very liberal with reputation and like to give as much of it out as possible (it's more a problem of actually remembering to do so usually) whether it's for Debates or on a personal level. To me it's just green bars on a screen which we like being given whether we admit it or not - just as the Throne on Habbo is 'just' a picture on a screen yet it still has a value to us if we are awarded one.

So don't be uptight about reputation is my outlook.

e5
23-10-2013, 08:56 PM
Isn't the like system only visible on the post liked or does it go on your profile? and can u unlike a post

MKR&*42
23-10-2013, 08:58 PM
Isn't the like system only visible on the post liked or does it go on your profile? and can u unlike a post

Can be on your profile and userbit as well, you can unlike a post provided they keep this option as I know same lame forums remove dislike because they think it's offensive which is ridiculous but hey.

But yes to both.

e5
23-10-2013, 09:11 PM
well unliking would be like a -rep or even less than a -rep because if u disagree with a post u dislike it and with post likes you will probably get mor likes as it's just a click of a button isnt it?
Can be on your profile and userbit as well, you can unlike a post provided they keep this option as I know same lame forums remove dislike because they think it's offensive which is ridiculous but hey.

But yes to both.

AgnesIO
23-10-2013, 09:12 PM
well unliking would be like a -rep or even less than a -rep because if u disagree with a post u dislike it and with post likes you will probably get mor likes as it's just a click of a button isnt it?

I don't think you can dislike a post, as o think you may be imagining it. You can remove your like though :L

Sent from my HTC One X

MKR&*42
23-10-2013, 09:13 PM
well unliking would be like a -rep or even less than a -rep because if u disagree with a post u dislike it and with post likes you will probably get mor likes as it's just a click of a button isnt it?

Most likely yes as the limit would probably be removed and newbies would probably understand a like system over a rep system.

Ok this sounds like I hate the rep system, I don't just to clarify I think it's fine.

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I don't think you can dislike a post, as o think you may be imagining it. You can remove your like though :L

Sent from my HTC One X

http://i.imgur.com/evzfByA.png

Can on ragezone, but it wouldn't show up below it.

You could also do it on TheStudentRoom but they removed the dislike feature a week ago :rolleyes:

David
23-10-2013, 09:16 PM
I don't think you can dislike a post, as o think you may be imagining it. You can remove your like though :L

Sent from my HTC One X

depends what plugin, vbseo can't dislike AFAIK but the thank/like posts hack allows dislikes.

AgnesIO
23-10-2013, 09:29 PM
Well, if anyone wants a dislike system with the like system, then I fail to see why they want the rep system replaced. That would literally be doing the exact same job.

Kyle
24-10-2013, 12:21 AM
replace rep prizes with token prizes for comps/events
introduce larger range of token exchange prizes so that tokens actually become worth something
reform rep system to disregard duration/post count and give 1 point per rep regardless of giver's rep power
remove private negative reputation and instead encourage users to air their grievances within the thread itself, promoting further discussion and debate.

FlyingJesus
24-10-2013, 01:05 AM
Loving these "solutions" where no-one actually gains anything

Drunq
24-10-2013, 08:12 AM
doesnt even bother me tbh u dony earn nothin for the points or do u? should read the forum rules lol. anyway i agree with kyle it does replace prizes and stuff but not overally keen on the idea it makes people think their cool(er).

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 09:47 AM
replace rep prizes with token prizes for comps/events
introduce larger range of token exchange prizes so that tokens actually become worth something
reform rep system to disregard duration/post count and give 1 point per rep regardless of giver's rep power
remove private negative reputation and instead encourage users to air their grievances within the thread itself, promoting further discussion and debate.

What would be the point in rep power then?

The only way that would make sense is it it is changed into a like system where it says the amount of times you have been repped

Sent from my HTC One X

buttons
24-10-2013, 10:42 AM
yh i think it makes more sense to show how much times your posts have been liked rather than how much times ur post has been liked by someone of a high rep power ;s tht way everyone would be equal n not using their rep to target ppl by -repping them or getting friends with high power to do it lol.

plus u can like any post so don't have to wait 7 days or w,e to do it. only probs is ppl might 'like' only their friends posts as revenge for getting rid of rep system and also u might want to like someone's post but anonymously? either way, how often is rep system even used ATM n how quickly will like system get boring..

or is it poss to keep rep points but show much times uve been repped? i think sumone already suggested tht but tht way everyone keeps rep power n points but also show how much times posts have been liked n w.e..

lawrawrrr
24-10-2013, 10:47 AM
the only way i'd be happy with rep going is if you could translate it, so say I have 200 different +reps, I'd get 200 likes added onto my account (despite the fact i've got way more points), rather than starting from 0 again.

Chris
24-10-2013, 10:54 AM
If people really wanted it we could try it along side the rep system for a while to see how it goes.

Kardan
24-10-2013, 11:07 AM
If people really wanted it we could try it along side the rep system for a while to see how it goes.

I'd be happy with that! Would love to see a dislike system too :P

Sieglinde
24-10-2013, 11:31 AM
Never really understood it myself, so it's not that important to me. ;(

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 11:45 AM
If people really wanted it we could try it along side the rep system for a while to see how it goes.

Having two systems just seems stupid - one or the other is the only logical way.

I still think the idea of simply translating each +rep people already have in to one like is the only fair way this system can change. It doesn't seem fair on people with loads of rep to start them at 0 again, but having both systems will simply make one of the two redundant (most likely the rep system, as it is so much faster to click like)

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Kyle
24-10-2013, 11:58 AM
What would be the point in rep power then?

The only way that would make sense is it it is changed into a like system where it says the amount of times you have been repped

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idk you may have misunderstood my suggestion. reputation/like are one in the same in my mind, just different names. right now if you like a post, you rep it.

the only way i'd be happy with rep going is if you could translate it, so say I have 200 different +reps, I'd get 200 likes added onto my account (despite the fact i've got way more points), rather than starting from 0 again.
agree with this


If people really wanted it we could try it along side the rep system for a while to see how it goes.
they are the same thing, what is the point in having 2 features that serve the same purpose?

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I'd be happy with that! Would love to see a dislike system too :P
can i ask why you want a dislike system? what purpose do you tihnk it would serve aside from perpetuating negativity?

Chris
24-10-2013, 12:00 PM
The idea being to trial the like system and see which people prefer. I wasn't suggesting having both systems in place permanently.

Kyle
24-10-2013, 12:01 PM
The idea being to trial the like system and see which people prefer. I wasn't suggesting having both systems in place permanently.
to properly trial something you need to trial its final form. if it's trialled alongside reputation then it won't get the same response as it would if it was trialled alone.

Chris
24-10-2013, 12:03 PM
to properly trial something you need to trial its final form. if it's trialled alongside reputation then it won't get the same response as it would if it was trialled alone.

If that was a problem then rep could easily be disabled for the duration of the trial.

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 12:07 PM
idk you may have misunderstood my suggestion. reputation/like are one in the same in my mind, just different names. right now if you like a post, you rep it.

agree with this


they are the same thing, what is the point in having 2 features that serve the same purpose?

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can i ask why you want a dislike system? what purpose do you tihnk it would serve aside from perpetuating negativity?

Check my reply to Chris on what I mean :)


The idea being to trial the like system and see which people prefer. I wasn't suggesting having both systems in place permanently.

The all important question for me is; would the number of +Reps people currently have be translated into likes? ie. if ten members have +Repped me (no matter how many points they had), will I start off with ten likes? Otherwise, I cannot see how it is fair on long term members (who let's face it, without them this forum would not be running...)

lawrawrrr
24-10-2013, 12:07 PM
before we start seriously considering this, is it possible to transfer number of reps onto a like system or would everyone have to start from scratch?

MKR&*42
24-10-2013, 12:14 PM
I don't get how you could transfer it as 1 person clicking a like button = 1 like, but not 1 person clicking a rep button =/= 1 reputation point. Nor do I support a total reset, I just think it's a lot of effort for nothing..

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 12:16 PM
before we start seriously considering this, is it possible to transfer number of reps onto a like system or would everyone have to start from scratch?

Exactly what I am trying to ask. It certainly would be possible, although I am imagining it to be a big job - maybe something members would have to apply in a thread for? I mean, it is easy for us to find out the number of TOTAL reps, but not quite so easy for normal members to find the total positive reps - not sure what vB Admin CP allows, though.

Chris
24-10-2013, 12:17 PM
Check my reply to Chris on what I mean :)



The all important question for me is; would the number of +Reps people currently have be translated into likes? ie. if ten members have +Repped me (no matter how many points they had), will I start off with ten likes? Otherwise, I cannot see how it is fair on long term members (who let's face it, without them this forum would not be running...)


before we start seriously considering this, is it possible to transfer number of reps onto a like system or would everyone have to start from scratch?

If it is something thats possible to do with the like system then I don't see why not.

Kardan
24-10-2013, 12:17 PM
Text wall.

Because I'd like to know which posts are disliked :P I'd like to see a nice '-1' at the bottom of posts if they were -repped as well :P

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 12:18 PM
If it is something thats possible to do with the like system then I don't see why not.

I would be very surprised if the Add-On didn't allow Administrators to change peoples number of likes - it is simply a question of can you find out how many times we have been +Repped (without literally counting).

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Because I'd like to know which posts are disliked :P I'd like to see a nice '-1' at the bottom of posts if they were -repped as well :P

I believe this was not originally implemented in case people just join in with the -repping (immature member: "hahaha that post has 9 -reps, let's make it 10 hahahahahaha")

Chris
24-10-2013, 12:23 PM
I would be very surprised if the Add-On didn't allow Administrators to change peoples number of likes - it is simply a question of can you find out how many times we have been +Repped (without literally counting).

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I believe this was not originally implemented in case people just join in with the -repping (immature member: "hahaha that post has 9 -reps, let's make it 10 hahahahahaha")

Yeah it's possible to find out how many but the total includes -rep too. You've been repped 800 times.

Kardan
24-10-2013, 12:24 PM
I would be very surprised if the Add-On didn't allow Administrators to change peoples number of likes - it is simply a question of can you find out how many times we have been +Repped (without literally counting).

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I believe this was not originally implemented in case people just join in with the -repping (immature member: "hahaha that post has 9 -reps, let's make it 10 hahahahahaha")

Does that not happen now with +reps? :P And surely that would happen with likes?

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 12:24 PM
Yeah it's possible to find out how many but the total includes -rep too. You've been repped 800 times.

Yeah, that is what I mean - the figure would surely need to exclude -reps, otherwise my total would say "800 members have liked Marketing's posts" - when, it would probably be more like "10 members have liked Marketing's posts, whilst 790 have hated them".

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Does that not happen now with +reps? :P And surely that would happen with likes?

I imagine people find it more thrilling to gang up on a member, than congratulate them :L Doesn't seem human nature to do that.. :P

I've always thought of a like system as more care free - by the way, if you check my posts, you will see I am not really in favour of a like system at all unless the point a few of us have raised is addressed!

Chris
24-10-2013, 12:26 PM
Yeah, that is what I mean - the figure would surely need to exclude -reps, otherwise my total would say "800 members have liked Marketing's posts" - when, it would probably be more like "10 members have liked Marketing's posts, whilst 790 have hated them".

Yeah which is what makes it difficult to do. The only way I know of separating them is by manually counting.

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 12:30 PM
Yeah which is what makes it difficult to do. The only way I know of separating them is by manually counting.

Looks like that might be the only way to keep everyone happy haha

Unless you could work out some sort of equation (ie. number of points divided by total reps - not necessarily that, but you get the point). I just don't think it would be fair to start everyone at 0, baring in mind you have always received a one extra rep power for each year on the forum, a certain amount of posts (err 2.5k is it?). Although in that respect the like system is different, as it is seen more as a way to agree with posts - I guess it has a more specific usage.

lawrawrrr
24-10-2013, 12:34 PM
I actually think if we could calcluate how many times, it would be interesting. As a lot of people have said, the highest rep powers on the forum are generally people who have been +repped multiple times by people with higher rep powers, creating a vicious cycle. I wonder who's actually benn +repped the most times!
Chris; can i find out mine ;D

Kardan
24-10-2013, 12:40 PM
Yeah, that is what I mean - the figure would surely need to exclude -reps, otherwise my total would say "800 members have liked Marketing's posts" - when, it would probably be more like "10 members have liked Marketing's posts, whilst 790 have hated them".

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I imagine people find it more thrilling to gang up on a member, than congratulate them :L Doesn't seem human nature to do that.. :P

I've always thought of a like system as more care free - by the way, if you check my posts, you will see I am not really in favour of a like system at all unless the point a few of us have raised is addressed!

I just don't see any benefits from the like system that the rep system doesn't already provide - but if people really want a like system, go ahead - just a tad pointless :P

Kyle
24-10-2013, 12:48 PM
the like system being discussed is essentially a reformed rep system anyway I think.

For problems of conversion, I guess it wouldnt be too big an ask for those who want their rep converted to count up their own points and give the number to whoever. There are 15 reps per page in the usercp so it's not that difficult a multiplication. Do something like disable -reps from showing for a short period so people can count properly without counting their -reps as likes. I have 51 pages for example so that is 765, then of them I have ~120 -reps (lol :( ) which gives me 645.

Kardan
24-10-2013, 12:52 PM
the like system being discussed is essentially a reformed rep system anyway I think.

For problems of conversion, I guess it wouldnt be too big an ask for those who want their rep converted to count up their own points and give the number to whoever. There are 15 reps per page in the usercp so it's not that difficult a multiplication. Do something like disable -reps from showing for a short period so people can count properly without counting their -reps as likes. I have 51 pages for example so that is 765, then of them I have ~120 -reps (lol :( ) which gives me 645.

There's no point in letting users count, because management will only have to re-count to make sure they're not lying.

Kyle
24-10-2013, 12:55 PM
There's no point in letting users count, because management will only have to re-count to make sure they're not lying.
but if negative rep was disabled for the counting period then users could count and request and admins would only have the verify page number. those that don't want/aren't bothered about new reps won't count, starting at 0 and therefore cut work considerably. if the trial is successful rep numbers will surely still be stored somewhere so if people return in future and wonder where their rep is gone then it's a simple job of admins checking their archive and reinstating what is owed

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 12:55 PM
the like system being discussed is essentially a reformed rep system anyway I think.

For problems of conversion, I guess it wouldnt be too big an ask for those who want their rep converted to count up their own points and give the number to whoever. There are 15 reps per page in the usercp so it's not that difficult a multiplication. Do something like disable -reps from showing for a short period so people can count properly without counting their -reps as likes. I have 51 pages for example so that is 765, then of them I have ~120 -reps (lol :( ) which gives me 645.

This would be smart if we can stop -reps showing that would solve that problem..

Maybe give members tokens for their each year on the forum and 2.5k posts (or whatever it is) instead of one rep power?

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Chippiewill
24-10-2013, 01:00 PM
Conversion wouldn't be too difficult as it can be automated with an SQL query or similar.

buttons
24-10-2013, 01:13 PM
I actually think if we could calcluate how many times, it would be interesting. As a lot of people have said, the highest rep powers on the forum are generally people who have been +repped multiple times by people with higher rep powers, creating a vicious cycle. I wonder who's actually benn +repped the most times!
@Chris (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895); can i find out mine ;D
I don't think your point about highest powers being ones repped multiple times by people with higher rep powers is true... look at the top people, they're all active in past 3 years so that's why they will have lots of rep? ;s

n as for whoever said kkk all repped each other (@e5; was it? Didnt u buy rep?) that's not true, especially as there is literally 2 kkk members left who are active and the rest never post nor rep, maybe it was true back in 06-08 but even then it'd only be 100 points worth of rep or something. Fj is highest because he's been consistently active and liked for 7 years, same as neversoft, im the next kkk member at 4th highest rep n ive been active since this account was made but after that, the kkk members go down pretty much based on activity level. -ss- is 18th but he was like 2nd highest rep in his time, nemo 22nd, le Harry 37, smiddy 38, undertaker 39 (who is active but I'd assume he'd have some -reps :p) mr.sam 54 slowpoke 91 Tristan 123 etc then there's Blake and wolverine who r even lower... they've all been around since pretty much beginning of time so that's why they're still 'high'.

look at people who are near top of rep list now incl u @lawrawrrr (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61966);and samanfa and have only been here since around 09) are u gna say uve been repped multiple times by people with higher rep powers? + tht u don't deserve the rep or something? I know for fact me, fj and neversoft and goldenmerc have handed out lots of rep. the reason y people are high on list is because they've been active for at least 3 years, not just coz getting lots of high rep... so people do deserve the amount of rep they've been given (not points) if it's different individual reps (I have 98 pages and I think maybe 5 is -rep?) but yh i still agree that it should show how much individual reps u have and even how much negative you've received, just don't have to have the whole point system as rly they don't do anything but give eliteness

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 01:22 PM
I don't think your point about highest powers being ones repped multiple times by people with higher rep powers is true... look at the top people, they're all active in past 3 years so that's why they will have lots of rep? ;s

n as for whoever said kkk all repped each other (@e5; was it? Didnt u buy rep?) that's not true, especially as there is literally 2 kkk members left who are active and the rest never post nor rep, maybe it was true back in 06-08 but even then it'd only be 100 points worth of rep or something. Fj is highest because he's been consistently active and liked for 7 years, same as neversoft, im the next kkk member at 4th highest rep n ive been active since this account was made but after that, the kkk members go down pretty much based on activity level. -ss- is 18th but he was like 2nd highest rep in his time, nemo 22nd, le Harry 37, smiddy 38, undertaker 39 (who is active but I'd assume he'd have some -reps :p) mr.sam 54 slowpoke 91 Tristan 123 etc then there's Blake and wolverine who r even lower... they've all been around since pretty much beginning of time so that's why they're still 'high'.

look at people who are near top of rep list now incl u @lawrawrrr (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61966);and samanfa and have only been here since around 09) are u gna say uve been repped multiple times by people with higher rep powers? + tht u don't deserve the rep or something? I know for fact me, fj and neversoft and goldenmerc have handed out lots of rep. the reason y people are high on list is because they've been active for at least 3 years, not just coz getting lots of high rep... so people do deserve the amount of rep they've been given (not points) if it's different individual reps (I have 98 pages and I think maybe 5 is -rep?) but yh i still agree that it should show how much individual reps u have and even how much negative you've received, just don't have to have the whole point system as rly they don't do anything but give eliteness

5 -rep? How have you managed that :L your opinions must be too generic... Haha

If we get rid of the point system, we should definitely change to likes. The issue could be resolved quite easily, as long as old members do not lose out - as that to me, would make no sense at all.

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buttons
24-10-2013, 01:25 PM
5 pages out of 98 :p altho it's prob more coz im sure my first few pages were -reps, I did get some -rep removed in my time but also with a few +reps :P might have a look through my 98 pages to see how much likes vs dislikes seeing as ive an essay to write..

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 01:29 PM
5 pages out of 98 :p altho it's prob more coz im sure my first few pages were -reps, I did get some -rep removed in my time but also with a few +reps :P might have a look through my 98 pages to see how much likes vs dislikes seeing as ive an essay to write..


Ohhh, I get it, was going to say, how do you manage that :L

Standard behaviour re the essay haha

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David
24-10-2013, 01:36 PM
only have ~20 -reps (excluding ones removed a long time ago)
lost count after i started reading some of them

look what i found Samanfa;


*REMOVED*

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AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 01:39 PM
only have ~20 -reps (excluding ones removed a long time ago)
lost count after i started reading some of them

look what i found Samanfa;

Aha, not supposed to post those, I don't think :L still, I do love reading some old rep comments and the very embarrassing part; my old posts that got me those -reps haha

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David
24-10-2013, 01:44 PM
dont see why we cant post old ones
no arguments to be had

buttons
24-10-2013, 01:48 PM
ok so I have 98 pages, 1318 individual +rep (although plenty that is from Christmas rep threads but I don't see people complaining about members with high rep power repping them there !!) and 125 -reps but a few of them were 0 rep power n hence why the 1318 n 125 don't add up to the 98 pages of 15 (1470). got a fair few -rep from catzsy, Jesus, ss and 'you' so clearly kkk members don't all rep each other lol

anyone want to do a ratio of +reps to my -reps? 1318 vs 125 (i think it's more like 110 coz a few were neutral tht were supposed to be plus so idk ;s)

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 02:00 PM
ok so I have 98 pages, 1318 individual +rep (although plenty that is from Christmas rep threads but I don't see people complaining about members with high rep power repping them there !!) and 125 -reps but a few of them were 0 rep power n hence why the 1318 n 125 don't add up to the 98 pages of 15 (1470). got a fair few -rep from catzsy, Jesus, ss and 'you' so clearly kkk members don't all rep each other lol

anyone want to do a ratio of +reps to my -reps? 1318 vs 125 (i think it's more like 110 coz a few were neutral tht were supposed to be plus so idk ;s)

Never really benefitted from the Xmas rep threads - mainly because I see them on about page 10. You have to remember, people are only complaining about the current system because they don't have high rep powers (generally, anyway).

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GoldenMerc
24-10-2013, 02:09 PM
Pointless changing, just get rid of removing -reps.

Grig
24-10-2013, 04:42 PM
I see it as something that should be earned. Not through habbox events.

Interesting point. Forum reputation is reputation of the forum, well quite self-explanatory, the reputation you gain for merits of posts on the forum. By getting reputations as prizes from events and stuff (and even we give it as prizes to our staff at HxL) gives you no more merit on the forum. Thus, it almost seems like a flawed definition, unless of course we start calling it 'Habbox reputation' or something of the lines. By employing it as forum reputation, there shouldn't be people who gain all the rep through events. This goes back to the point of a definition change.

FlyingJesus
24-10-2013, 04:46 PM
So apparently having an earned amount of rep power that you can use in strictly limited quantities to reward others is more easily abused than setting everyone's rep power to 1 (which is essentially what likes are) and allowing unlimited likes for anything. I know not everyone here is exactly what you'd call a genius but surely you lot don't actually believe this is a better way of doing things?

Let's assume we have the like system. Marketing and Intersocial decide that they are bffs and will like every post the other makes. Suddenly they appear to anyone on their profiles to be respected posters who make useful and informed comments because they have 111 and 102 likes respectively, but obv we know that in reality Dom and Warden are *REMOVED* Compound this with the fact that they would for their spamming have over 100 times the recognition that someone who isn't abusing the system gets even if they're a positively contributing member, and we can see that the like system - which is really just getting rid of rep power and rep limits - makes no sense at all

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MKR&*42
24-10-2013, 04:47 PM
So apparently having an earned amount of rep power that you can use in strictly limited quantities to reward others is more easily abused than setting everyone's rep power to 1 (which is essentially what likes are) and allowing unlimited likes for anything. I know not everyone here is exactly what you'd call a genius but surely you lot don't actually believe this is a better way of doing things?

Let's assume we have the like system. Marketing and Intersocial decide that they are bffs and will like every post the other makes. Suddenly they appear to anyone on their profiles to be respected posters who make useful and informed comments because they have 111 and 102 likes respectively, but obv we know that in reality Dom and Warden are bell ends. Compound this with the fact that they would for their spamming have over 100 times the recognition that someone who isn't abusing the system gets even if they're a positively contributing member, and we can see that the like system - which is really just getting rid of rep power and rep limits - makes no sense at all

Rude. Agree with everything else you've said though.

Samantha
24-10-2013, 05:27 PM
only have ~20 -reps (excluding ones removed a long time ago)
lost count after i started reading some of them

look what i found Samanfa;

LMAO, I know who -repped you for that :P.

I have 11 -reps and and 994+reps I believe.

I haven't kept up with this thread much, so is a like system being tested alongside it? What if at the end people like having both and use both, will they both stay?

David
24-10-2013, 05:30 PM
LMAO, I know who -repped you for that :P.

I have 11 -reps and and 994+reps I believe.

I haven't kept up with this thread much, so is a like system being tested alongside it? What if at the end people like having both and use both, will they both stay?

wasnt it Inkwell;

Kardan
24-10-2013, 06:31 PM
I don't think your point about highest powers being ones repped multiple times by people with higher rep powers is true... look at the top people, they're all active in past 3 years so that's why they will have lots of rep? ;s

n as for whoever said kkk all repped each other (@e5; was it? Didnt u buy rep?) that's not true, especially as there is literally 2 kkk members left who are active and the rest never post nor rep, maybe it was true back in 06-08 but even then it'd only be 100 points worth of rep or something. Fj is highest because he's been consistently active and liked for 7 years, same as neversoft, im the next kkk member at 4th highest rep n ive been active since this account was made but after that, the kkk members go down pretty much based on activity level. -ss- is 18th but he was like 2nd highest rep in his time, nemo 22nd, le Harry 37, smiddy 38, undertaker 39 (who is active but I'd assume he'd have some -reps :p) mr.sam 54 slowpoke 91 Tristan 123 etc then there's Blake and wolverine who r even lower... they've all been around since pretty much beginning of time so that's why they're still 'high'.

look at people who are near top of rep list now incl u @lawrawrrr (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61966);and samanfa and have only been here since around 09) are u gna say uve been repped multiple times by people with higher rep powers? + tht u don't deserve the rep or something? I know for fact me, fj and neversoft and goldenmerc have handed out lots of rep. the reason y people are high on list is because they've been active for at least 3 years, not just coz getting lots of high rep... so people do deserve the amount of rep they've been given (not points) if it's different individual reps (I have 98 pages and I think maybe 5 is -rep?) but yh i still agree that it should show how much individual reps u have and even how much negative you've received, just don't have to have the whole point system as rly they don't do anything but give eliteness

I pretty much agree with this whole post. The whole reason of rep inflation is because of high rep powers now, not because of rep being abused.

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I'm counting my reps now, and my first page is nearly all red, but all are positive comments... Clearly people had no clue how to use rep back in the day...

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 06:35 PM
So apparently having an earned amount of rep power that you can use in strictly limited quantities to reward others is more easily abused than setting everyone's rep power to 1 (which is essentially what likes are) and allowing unlimited likes for anything. I know not everyone here is exactly what you'd call a genius but surely you lot don't actually believe this is a better way of doing things?

Let's assume we have the like system. Marketing and Intersocial decide that they are bffs and will like every post the other makes. Suddenly they appear to anyone on their profiles to be respected posters who make useful and informed comments because they have 111 and 102 likes respectively, but obv we know that in reality Dom and Warden are bell ends. Compound this with the fact that they would for their spamming have over 100 times the recognition that someone who isn't abusing the system gets even if they're a positively contributing member, and we can see that the like system - which is really just getting rid of rep power and rep limits - makes no sense at all

Nothing like a compliment :8

I want to disagree, but I agree with this post - I think if we are having a like system just do it, but trying to change the rep system to be a like system would be utterly pointless. I know a like system can work, however, unless the older members are still recognised I personally don't want it - not because we have an ego to keep up, but at the end of the day - however small it may be - we have earned it.

Kardan
24-10-2013, 06:38 PM
I've got 91 -reps (I'd say a good 60 of those are like pre 2007...), which means I have only 704 +reps.

I think I've had a -rep from most people in this thread though :P

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 06:38 PM
My second ever rep was for *REMOVED*, if that isn't rep abuse I don't know what is :rolleyes: It was, of course, a -rep.

:L

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FlyingJesus
24-10-2013, 06:42 PM
I have 142 pages of rep but 140, 141, and 142 are blank what is this witchcraft

Kardan
24-10-2013, 06:43 PM
My second ever rep was for "Get a new Habbo name", if that isn't rep abuse I don't know what is :rolleyes: It was, of course, a -rep.

:L

I've got so many things that should be removed, but because they are so early, they must have a rep power of about 1 :P

These were all -reps:

*REMOVED*

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Apparently I should be bullied because I was ginger :P

MKR&*42
24-10-2013, 06:49 PM
My first rep received was negative ;( I made a stupid comment.

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 06:49 PM
I've got so many things that should be removed, but because they are so early, they must have a rep power of about 1 :P

These were all -reps:

*REMOVED*

They were all pre-2006, and all -reps... If I got them removed I would probably get the same amount of +rep as if somebody repped me now, so slightly pointless :P But a great read :)

---------- Post added 24-10-2013 at 07:45 PM ----------

And my last -rep was back in May for saying:

"So it's my fault for being bullied because I was born ginger?"

Apparently I should be bullied because I was ginger :P

haa, excellent list.

I have from that is a -rep and the user (Xarea) wrote in the message that @-:Undertaker:- (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=24233) left it. What a ***** xox

I have 172 minus reps in total, but almost 7000 points overall, but I've only had 13 -reps since the end of 2010 :S Only 3 this year.

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My first rep received was negative ;( I made a stupid comment.

Btw @Marketing (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=36885);



:'(

I am so embarrassed at some of my own -reps haha AT LEAST I LEFT MY NAME :)

Kardan
24-10-2013, 06:57 PM
haa, excellent list.

I have from that is a -rep and the user (Xarea) wrote in the message that -:Undertaker:- left it. What a ***** xox

I have 172 minus reps in total, but almost 7000 points overall, but I've only had 13 -reps since the end of 2010 :S Only 3 this year.

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I am so embarrassed at some of my own -reps haha AT LEAST I LEFT MY NAME :)

You also -repped me at some point :P

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 06:58 PM
You also -repped me at some point :P

I'm a ****, get over it :rolleyes:

Kardan
24-10-2013, 06:59 PM
I'm a ****, get over it :rolleyes:

I put:

And you have the decency to say I pointless post?

And are we on about the minimail or console thingy? Minimail has been above 10 before, but I can't remember sending anything to more than 10 people over the console invite thingy?

You put:

Well your wrong.

:P

But it's cool, the +rep you gave me 5 years later made up for it :P

buttons
24-10-2013, 07:00 PM
I pretty much agree with this whole post. The whole reason of rep inflation is because of high rep powers now, not because of rep being abused.

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I'm counting my reps now, and my first page is nearly all red, but all are positive comments... Clearly people had no clue how to use rep back in the day...


I've got so many things that should be removed, but because they are so early, they must have a rep power of about 1 :P

These were all -reps:

It was very good
Your my bro
a good idea and great questions
for a good joke
you rawk!
Great Thanks For Replying. HotelHealth
Don't brag about your reps. (I must have had like +30 at this point)
Ye, i totally believe ya! Its frustratin wen people dont.
its ****
Long time no see - Beneficial
You now have, 99 rep - Beep Beep! [Rep-Patrol] ;) Have fun.
big brother ****s!
Thanks For The Nice Comment :)-Vb.Net (P.S Would U ever get frmo Slice Of Life even if it cost credits for food?)
:@ :@ GAY ******
You ****.
really funny lol - mike475
u dont deserve the badge and are moody with us for no reason, all the tiem :l
Noob, needless to say and noob isnt an insult. You don't deserve that badge.
♥[×]. тнαикѕ уσυя α gяєαт нαввσ αи∂ нαввσχєя נυѕ
For solving the case of the bunny noises!
Good UK Staff list + If thats your avatar, your fit. Lol

They were all pre-2006, and all -reps... If I got them removed I would probably get the same amount of +rep as if somebody repped me now, so slightly pointless :P But a great read :)

---------- Post added 24-10-2013 at 07:45 PM ----------

And my last -rep was back in May for saying:

"So it's my fault for being bullied because I was born ginger?"

Apparently I should be bullied because I was ginger :P
i don't think these are -reps but actually people with 0 rep power? because i have positive comments which are red and it was because people didnt have even 1 rep power. wasn't there a time we started with 0 rep and 1 rep was only introduced a few years ago? i

Kardan
24-10-2013, 07:01 PM
i don't think these are -reps but actually people with 0 rep power? because i have positive comments which are red and it was because people didnt have even 1 rep power. wasn't there a time we started with 0 rep and 1 rep was only introduced a few years ago? i

I thought that showed up as grey rep.

And everyone always started with 1, but now new members start with 2 for some reason.

Edit; that being said, I've not got any grey rep anymore, so maybe grey rep turned to red rep somewhere.

buttons
24-10-2013, 07:03 PM
yea i noticed that it's no longer grey rep, so why are they red/were grey if we all have at least 1 rep power ;s

Kardan
24-10-2013, 07:06 PM
yea i noticed that it's no longer grey rep, so why are they red/were grey if we all have at least 1 rep power ;s

There's a bug somewhere - if I count my rep power I should only have a power of 30? Yet new people start off with 2 when they should have 0... It's all very strange :P

Chippiewill
24-10-2013, 07:08 PM
So apparently having an earned amount of rep power
The system simply doesn't scale properly, I've earned more rep in the past year than all the years prior due to inflation. Frankly it's a meaningless system.

At the very least we need to sort out the rep bars, virtually everyone in this thread has maxed it out already.

Kardan
24-10-2013, 07:11 PM
The system simply doesn't scale properly, I've earned more rep in the past year than all the years prior due to inflation. Frankly it's a meaningless system.

At the very least we need to sort out the rep bars, virtually everyone in this thread has maxed it out already.

I think around 2007 management re-scaled the rep system, everyone complained like ---MAD--- (;)) but it was needed. I've been saying for the last 2 years that it needs to be done again, but nobody listens :P

Anyways, if the active users with the most rep power keep repping FlyingJesus, I'm sure we can get him to 100 rep power by Christmas. Could probably go up 1 power a day actually.

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 07:12 PM
I put:

And you have the decency to say I pointless post?

And are we on about the minimail or console thingy? Minimail has been above 10 before, but I can't remember sending anything to more than 10 people over the console invite thingy?

You put:

Well your wrong.

:P

But it's cool, the +rep you gave me 5 years later made up for it :P

Well, I have to say I have changed a lot over the years - but in that respect, I was clearly still blunt as anything back then :L I call it being "to the point" :P

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The system simply doesn't scale properly, I've earned more rep in the past year than all the years prior due to inflation. Frankly it's a meaningless system.

At the very least we need to sort out the rep bars, virtually everyone in this thread has maxed it out already.

The rep bars have always meant nothing to me anyway, as I have no idea what they mean. I just look at rep power? The thing is though, surely new members will grow just as quickly...

Oh my god I feel like we are discussing monetary policy with all this inflation talk.

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I think around 2007 management re-scaled the rep system, everyone complained like ---MAD--- (;)) but it was needed. I've been saying for the last 2 years that it needs to be done again, but nobody listens :P

Anyways, if the active users with the most rep power keep repping FlyingJesus, I'm sure we can get him to 100 rep power by Christmas. Could probably go up 1 power a day actually.

Heh, welcome to the joint most popular feedback thread ever (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=439548)

e5
24-10-2013, 07:30 PM
That's what ruins rep though. Pointless ones.

I think around 2007 management re-scaled the rep system, everyone complained like ---MAD--- (;)) but it was needed. I've been saying for the last 2 years that it needs to be done again, but nobody listens :P

Anyways, if the active users with the most rep power keep repping FlyingJesus, I'm sure we can get him to 100 rep power by Christmas. Could probably go up 1 power a day actually.

FlyingJesus
24-10-2013, 07:31 PM
No I'm pretty sure this (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=4154402) is the most popular feedback thread ever

Just looked through my -reps, think a lot of them must have been grey because like half of them are LOL! and I AGREE! and stuff that's positive, but there are some great ones still:

*REMOVED*

Oh and I get another power in 42 rep's time I think

Edited by £lliott (Forum Moderator) - Please do not post reputation comments, thanks.

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 07:39 PM
No I'm pretty sure this (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=4154402) is the most popular feedback thread ever

Just looked through my -reps, think a lot of them must have been grey because like half of them are LOL! and I AGREE! and stuff that's positive, but there are some great ones still:

*REMOVED*

Oh and I get another power in 42 rep's time I think

Edited by £lliott (Forum Moderator) - Please do not post reputation comments, thanks.

I assume you did mean to post the random bed wetting thread? :L

FlyingJesus
24-10-2013, 07:42 PM
Yeah it's a favourite of mine :P and wow E5 deleting only the rep comments that I posted and no-one else's because mine had him openly giving revenge rep lol

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 07:43 PM
Yeah it's a favourite of mine :P and wow E5 deleting only the rep comments that I posted and no-one else's because mine had him openly giving revenge rep lol

Having just read through that thread, the responses did make me laugh - and how easily the OP was being wound up...

Ohh, the gossip :L I presume it was really old? If so, Elliot just take it on the chin and laugh :)

Kardan
24-10-2013, 07:44 PM
Yeah it's a favourite of mine :P and wow E5 deleting only the rep comments that I posted and no-one else's because mine had him openly giving revenge rep lol

That's such an outdated rule, what part of a reputation comment breaks:

"We do not allow you to post private information about yourself due to security concerns. Disclosing any information about another forum user without their consent is also not allowed."

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 07:46 PM
That's such an outdated rule, what part of a reputation comment breaks:

"We do not allow you to post private information about yourself due to security concerns. Disclosing any information about another forum user without their consent is also not allowed."




Private messages
Forum ban reasons/dismissal reasons
Reputation comments
Private conversations (MSN, Habbo, etc.)
Images / videos of the user or links to a page where an image/video of another user is located (this includes social networking sites, facebook, myspace etc)
Trying to organize real life meet-ups
It is also not allowed to give out the personal details (specific address, phone number etc) of anyone, forum user or otherwise.



Another rule that is ridiculous...; A9. Leave moderating to the moderators

Maybe we need another thread for rule changes...

FlyingJesus
24-10-2013, 07:46 PM
Haaaaaaaaaa got you all in trouble

I actually assumed it was allowed because Mr Mod had read the thread and posted long after they were posted by you lot :(

Kardan
24-10-2013, 07:48 PM
Another rule that is ridiculous...; A9. Leave moderating to the moderators

Maybe we need another thread for rule changes...

I've seen so many staff members posted why they were fired... Did they get punished? I don't think they did...

Oh, and trying to organise real life meet-ups? Looks like we'll have to ban all of the general management and close Habbox.

e5
24-10-2013, 07:48 PM
Was working my way through the comments actually and I included a message in the pm anctipating your reaction :P

Are we finished discussing rep now cos i can see this moving swifty off - topic[/B]
Yeah it's a favourite of mine :P and wow E5 deleting only the rep comments that I posted and no-one else's because mine had him openly giving revenge rep lol

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 07:48 PM
That's what ruins rep though. Pointless ones.

Certainly not attacking you personally here, but I see nothing wrong with posting rep comments that are so old (maybe change the rule to ones within 12 months or something...) - it was quite enjoyable reading old ones!

e5
24-10-2013, 07:50 PM
Oh, I do take it on the chin lol :P I don't think it was that old but I don't remember giving him one. He can be annoying some times ;)
Having just read through that thread, the responses did make me laugh - and how easily the OP was being wound up...

Ohh, the gossip :L I presume it was really old? If so, Elliot just take it on the chin and laugh :)

Kardan
24-10-2013, 07:50 PM
Another rule, Don't break the Habbo way.

Habbo way includes:

Troll
No one likes a troll, not even their mothers; bullying will not be tolerated by anyone.

Sell for real money
Don't sell your items for real money. You're likely to lose it all in a place that is not safe and to waste the time and dedication you put into getting where you are in the first place.

Get on it £lliott; many, many bans to be given out here :P

e5
24-10-2013, 07:50 PM
Certainly not attacking you personally here, but I see nothing wrong with posting rep comments that are so old (maybe change the rule to ones within 12 months or something...) - it was quite enjoyable reading old ones!

Enjoyable, but I don't make the rules :( Maybe that's the joy of being a mod, I get to read them all :D

---------- Post added 24-10-2013 at 08:51 PM ----------

Kardan sir, it is not your duty to post the rules!

I can see me closing this thread very soon :P

Question:

Can we have the like system & rep system and would they work together?
Another rule, Don't break the Habbo way.

Habbo way includes:

Troll
No one likes a troll, not even their mothers; bullying will not be tolerated by anyone.

Sell for real money
Don't sell your items for real money. You're likely to lose it all in a place that is not safe and to waste the time and dedication you put into getting where you are in the first place.

Get on it £lliott; many, many bans to be given out here :P

Kardan
24-10-2013, 07:53 PM
Enjoyable, but I don't make the rules :( Maybe that's the joy of being a mod, I get to read them all :D

---------- Post added 24-10-2013 at 08:51 PM ----------

Kardan sir, it is not your duty to post the rules!

I can see me closing this thread very soon :P

Question:

Can we have the like system & rep system and would they work together?

I can spam the report post feature if you'd prefer it?

Another rule:

•Don't post: Private conversations (MSN, Habbo, etc.)

Can we ban everyone with Habbo text screenshots in their signature then? Because a conversation between two people in a locked room would be private? And the amount of staff I've seen post Instant Messaging convos :P

And I'm not expecting you to do anything in reality, just showing the rules are outdated.

e5
24-10-2013, 07:53 PM
I just hadn't read every page :P
Haaaaaaaaaa got you all in trouble

I actually assumed it was allowed because Mr Mod had read the thread and posted long after they were posted by you lot :(

Kardan
24-10-2013, 07:54 PM
•Do not multiple post within the 15 minute edit time of your original threads

Another outdated rule since we have post merging.

e5
24-10-2013, 07:56 PM
That's what it's there for. Please can we stop with the posting of the rules unless you want usernotes etc. and stay on topic, ta
I can spam the report post feature if you'd prefer it?

Another rule:

•Don't post: Private conversations (MSN, Habbo, etc.)

Can we ban everyone with Habbo text screenshots in their signature then? Because a conversation between two people in a locked room would be private? And the amount of staff I've seen post Instant Messaging convos :P

And I'm not expecting you to do anything in reality, just showing the rules are outdated.

MKR&*42
24-10-2013, 07:56 PM
Chris; is probably the one you should be telling all these rule changes to.

Some of the rules like not posting msn convos/habbo convos aren't necessarily outdated, moreso they're just not specific enough.

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 07:57 PM
Enjoyable, but I don't make the rules :( Maybe that's the joy of being a mod, I get to read them all :D

---------- Post added 24-10-2013 at 08:51 PM ----------

Kardan sir, it is not your duty to post the rules!

I can see me closing this thread very soon :P

Question:

Can we have the like system & rep system and would they work together?

nononononono - both systems would be stupid, and merely make one redundant.

FlyingJesus
24-10-2013, 07:58 PM
Absolutely pissing at the thread it was in (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=6997409); like most of my -reps, I got lots more plus than minus for the posts in question :P

And surely this isn't off topic because it's about rep

Kardan
24-10-2013, 07:59 PM
Chris; is probably the one you should be telling all these rule changes to.

Some of the rules like not posting msn convos/habbo convos aren't necessarily outdated, moreso they're just not specific enough.

Why aren't they specific enough? People posting Skype conversations is a clear breach of the rules that I never see enforced - so it's outdated :P

And am I seriously getting a non-formal warning for giving feedback in a feedback thread - I guess I'll just make a new thread to annoy everyone with :P And it's not completely off-topic, it at least stemmed from the original discussion, which is what I thought was acceptable :P

And I fully expect Chris to read through this thread anyways.

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 08:03 PM
Absolutely pissing at the thread it was in (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=6997409); like most of my -reps, I got lots more plus than minus for the posts in question :P

And surely this isn't off topic because it's about rep

Second time I can use my favourite constable ever in;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zr20QqSjA0

I think what we need is a poll on rep.. I'll go and make one.

Kardan
24-10-2013, 08:04 PM
Absolutely pissing at the thread it was in (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=6997409); like most of my -reps, I got lots more plus than minus for the posts in question :P

And surely this isn't off topic because it's about rep

Are you indirectly asking for rep by linking to a thread that was originally indirectly asking for rep?

Looks like it worked.

MKR&*42
24-10-2013, 08:06 PM
Why aren't they specific enough? People posting Skype conversations is a clear breach of the rules that I never see enforced - so it's outdated :P

And am I seriously getting a non-formal warning for giving feedback in a feedback thread - I guess I'll just make a new thread to annoy everyone with :P And it's not completely off-topic, it at least stemmed from the original discussion, which is what I thought was acceptable :P

And I fully expect Chris to read through this thread anyways.

In terms of specifics, if the text contained something too vulgar on the forum then said person would get a warning for it (luckily people have the common sense not to do that... well some) otherwise they wouldn't unless person X who was also in the skype convo complained about leaking information.

It does happen it's just not that common.

Kardan
24-10-2013, 08:08 PM
In terms of specifics, if the text contained something too vulgar on the forum then said person would get a warning for it (luckily people have the common sense not to do that... well some) otherwise they wouldn't unless person X who was also in the skype convo complained about leaking information.

It does happen it's just not that common.

Nope, the rules clearly state that if you post any private info/convos you should be punished - hence why we're being edited for rep comments even though we're all quite clearly okay with posting each others comments.

It's simply mods not enforcing the rule, and because the majority of the time it's general management doing it. I'm not saying they should be punished, I'm saying the rule should be updated.

buttons
24-10-2013, 08:08 PM
That's what it's there for. Please can we stop with the posting of the rules unless you want usernotes etc. and stay on topic, ta
no.

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 08:12 PM
In terms of specifics, if the text contained something too vulgar on the forum then said person would get a warning for it (luckily people have the common sense not to do that... well some) otherwise they wouldn't unless person X who was also in the skype convo complained about leaking information.

It does happen it's just not that common.

Just found an old conversation we had :S

http://i40.tinypic.com/2czq8wl.png

Yes, I forgot to get rid of the edit box, but I cannot be bothered to remake it ><

----

On a serious note, I made a thread with a poll on whether people want a rep or like system...

MKR&*42
24-10-2013, 08:14 PM
Just found an old conversation we had :S

http://i40.tinypic.com/2czq8wl.png

Yes, I forgot to get rid of the edit box, but I cannot be bothered to remake it ><

----

On a serious note, I made a thread with a poll on whether people want a rep or like system...

HATE YOU :'(

Kardan
24-10-2013, 08:19 PM
no.

I would have repped this post, but I repped you about 30 minutes ago.

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 08:22 PM
I would have repped this post, but I repped you about 30 minutes ago.

I've tried repping you about 10 times in this thread..

Wait, this might start to sound like rep abuse.. which is against the forum rules.. which need to be changed..

Sorry, I couldn't help it.

Kardan
24-10-2013, 08:23 PM
I've tried repping you about 10 times in this thread..

Wait, this might start to sound like rep abuse.. which is against the forum rules.. which need to be changed..

Sorry, I couldn't help it.

Hey, you can't tell other users that they are breaking the rules, that's a rule!

Oh, snap.

e5
24-10-2013, 09:28 PM
It's okay if they give permission4

Why aren't they specific enough? People posting Skype conversations is a clear breach of the rules that I never see enforced - so it's outdated :P

And am I seriously getting a non-formal warning for giving feedback in a feedback thread - I guess I'll just make a new thread to annoy everyone with :P And it's not completely off-topic, it at least stemmed from the original discussion, which is what I thought was acceptable :P

And I fully expect Chris to read through this thread anyways.

Kardan
24-10-2013, 09:29 PM
It's okay if they give permission4

So how come permission wasn't enough for rep comments?

e5
24-10-2013, 09:32 PM
I don't make the rules and most likely people wouldn't give you permission to post the content of their negative reps
So how come permission wasn't enough for rep comments?

Kardan
24-10-2013, 09:39 PM
I don't make the rules and most likely people wouldn't give you permission to post the content of their negative reps

http://www.rottenecards.com/ecards/rottenecard_75504225_mt65hqt5pz.png

OT; rep is so important to me, myself and Irene.

e5
24-10-2013, 09:48 PM
Thread closed by £lliott (Forum Moderator) to prevent further off topic posts and rule breaks

AgnesIO
24-10-2013, 09:48 PM
I don't make the rules and most likely people wouldn't give you permission to post the content of their negative reps


Therefore, I would like to propose Amendment 24102013; Rep comments over 12 months old can be posted.

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