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MKR&*42
26-10-2013, 06:55 PM
Was a monstrosity to put it lightly.
Three players made it to the end of 20 questions with 6 points each (despite the fact the 20th question made no sense at all) and one of them left the room before the final question was asked. The host says *ANYONE CAN ANSWER THIS NEXT QUESTION* and the winner of that round is not one of the two players left who are drawing so far (it's flyingjesus instead x), so common sense would dictate we go onto another question... but no, instead the host ignores the problem and dashes out the room. Keep on fighting with that logic.
Oh and also, the fact that one of the players who tied SAID THIS;
http://i.imgur.com/57a6BQO.png
But no apparently she wins through no reason whatsoever despite her blatant cheating :rolleyes:
Considering most of you in the room are borderline bullying PoisonedLies because she was GIVEN the prize, yet none of you are getting onto Danny who decided the winner... Someone getting 1 months VIP is all too much for you guys
FlyingJesus
26-10-2013, 07:02 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/301ljzl.png
It's impossible to get on at Danny because he left before it finished and wasn't replying even then. Also well done missing the point entirely Mark even after it's been explained many many times - it's about the fact that she was cheating and lying about what questions she got right, not that she "won". If she's actually got more points then it wouldn't be an issue but she didn't
Also Q20 the accepted answer which she got was in fact incorrect, as people do not "tell jokes" if they don't get treats while trick or treating lmao
Sieglinde
26-10-2013, 07:11 PM
what even
i don't even
Samantha
26-10-2013, 07:15 PM
It wasn't the greatest SNQ admittedly and I'm sure Danny would say that too. Most of the questions were being answered and the first person to get the correct answer wasn't getting the point and he gave it to someone else; we had to tell him repeatedly who actually won the point. It would have been solved easily this part of the quiz if he didn't leave it on guess work and looked at the chat logs.
Then came the final question, 'You play this at a Halloween party, it is called Trick or Treat. What are tricks in the game?' (The question was something along the lines of that). Apparently, the answer was 'Jokes' yet everyone decided to guess as we really didn't understand what the question or answer was - they didn't make much sense basically.
Finally, the tiebreaker, Danny told everyone that he was going to do more questions, yes plural - he also said anyone could answer and in doing so FlyingJesus got the point. This meant that another question should have been done, which wasn't the case and Danny decided to deem PoisonedLies as the winner and go on the AFK chairs, he then mocked FlyingJesus by laughing at the fact he didn't get many points, which wasn't that professional, but we were then trying to get hold of him in the room repeatedly. However, he was saying his decision is final which is fine, but not when it wasn't fair in the first place.
I honestly don't care who wins or whatever, it was just the host not going by what he originally said. Perhaps something all hosts can improve on in the future!
FlyingJesus
26-10-2013, 07:17 PM
Oh what I didn't know he was laughing at me I feel less bad about having a go at him now hooray
Samantha
26-10-2013, 07:21 PM
Oh what I didn't know he was laughing at me I feel less bad about having a go at him now hooray
Yeah when you were attempting to talk to him he said something along the lines of:
"AND HOW MANY POINTS DID YOU GET?"
"HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHA"
FlyingJesus
26-10-2013, 07:30 PM
Think he might have something against me he kicked me in his event the other day too lol
MKR&*42
26-10-2013, 07:33 PM
Omg yes I remember thinking how rude that was :L.
scottish
26-10-2013, 07:57 PM
Ms.Aquamarine; fire him theres no other option
I dont tend to involve myself in these kind of things, but for some reason I got really annoyed.
I was in the room for about 10 minutes while it was going on, kind of in the door half in half afk. And the standard of this SNQ in comparison was absurd.
The questions were often poorly wrote and just were not written correctly, causing confusion sometimes.
Whenever we asked a question to Danny he would suddenly be brb or afk for a couple of minutes
There was no structure to it and the scores were obviously not kept properly, most of them had different scores every 2 seconds.
We were told to shut up by danny while he was behind the desk, i dont care too much but hes supposed to be 'setting an example' according to hxhd rules or the older, better rules.
Why is the rule of having a senior member of staff in the room on SNQ's not still around? And are the questions still monitored and looked through by snr+ staff?
Absently
26-10-2013, 08:30 PM
Back when I was still a senior, you always had to send your questions in 48 hours before and if some of your questions weren't good enough or too hard they'd be changed. You'd always send the questions to the help desk manager and the asst, and if your senior asked - to them too. So really not sure why something like this has happened... Tbf it really seems like the standards of hxhd have really fallen in general
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sexpot
26-10-2013, 08:30 PM
I dont tend to involve myself in these kind of things, but for some reason I got really annoyed.
I was in the room for about 10 minutes while it was going on, kind of in the door half in half afk. And the standard of this SNQ in comparison was absurd.
The questions were often poorly wrote and just were not written correctly, causing confusion sometimes.
Whenever we asked a question to Danny he would suddenly be brb or afk for a couple of minutes
There was no structure to it and the scores were obviously not kept properly, most of them had different scores every 2 seconds.
We were told to shut up by danny while he was behind the desk, i dont care too much but hes supposed to be 'setting an example' according to hxhd rules or the older, better rules.
Why is the rule of having a senior member of staff in the room on SNQ's not still around? And are the questions still monitored and looked through by snr+ staff?
I know the HxHD manager looks over the questions before SNQ, not sure about the senior staff required to be present
FlyingJesus
26-10-2013, 08:37 PM
And are the questions still monitored and looked through by snr+ staff?
Yeah they are but apparently they're also given out to random members :P
I know the HxHD manager looks over the questions before SNQ, not sure about the senior staff required to be present
thats fair enough if she did, wernt getting at erin just enquiring really. as @cupcake (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=50287); said it was 2 days before your snq you had to send your questions in.. but tonight they were just awful tbh. :P
snq is like the only unique use of the help desk now really, and if thats going downhill.. hmm
Yeah they are but apparently they're also given out to random members :P
so its not a quiz now its a who can c&p the answers quickest!!!1. Tbh, fixing happens all over the place.. but the person who is cheating doesn't usually give themselves away haha.
AcarioRuiz
26-10-2013, 09:41 PM
Sounds abysmal. Why was this guy hosting in the first place?
snqs @ habbox are terrible they just google questions..
every single one ive been to
easy fix is for the hosts to actually put in some ~effort~ (a vigorous or determined attempt e.g. to actually try) and come up with 20 questions about whatever the **** they want.. really not hard. and if its tied OF COURSE there should be a tie breaker whatever it is and you cannot slate poisonedlies for what clearly wasnt her fault.
entirely on the host.
They should rename to the Sunday Night Quiz.
Nobody does anything on a Sunday.
Mikey
26-10-2013, 11:32 PM
When I was HxHD staff as other people said before you sent your questions to either the Help Desk Manager/Assistant Manager and they told you if it was all okay, changes etc and a senior staff member was always in the room with you to make sure it was all running okay and incase you had to leave for any reason.
Maybe guidelines need to be implemented and I have to agree with above, why not do it on a Sunday where people aren't busy and have nothing to do?
Drunq
27-10-2013, 12:24 AM
There's no proof of FlyingJesus answering Q21 (We did it for the 3 who tied) I only said everyone could of answered it after the whole thing anyway. Sorry for my crap hosting then. :(.
I find it really funny and pathetic how you all raged up and Hayden you the most after I thought you was a nice person. Making such thread.
FlyingJesus
27-10-2013, 12:30 AM
No proof except for the room full of people who saw me answering it correctly - the same amount of proof that there is for any other question :P and no you never at any point said that the "extra questions" (your words, note not tiebreaker) were only for the 3 on tied points. As you've just admitted, you actually said the exact opposite
Not wanting sub-par staff behaviour isn't the same as not being nice and wanting things to be done properly isn't raging up
Foregetfuhl
27-10-2013, 12:38 AM
I'll be speaking to the staff involved as well as the rules regarding members of staff present. I'm presuming looking at the print screen there weren't any other HxHD staff present which I don't believe is right. I'm sure it is another two HxHD staff to be present. And as far as I was aware Erin checked the questions before. I'll have a look at them myself for these and go from there. Usually the SNQ is highly planned and goes how it should, so don't think that this is something that happens a lot! :) Sorry for any issues caused etc.etc.
CrazyLemurs
27-10-2013, 12:41 AM
I thank Jade for taking this to a better level than ranting like others have
In future, if you thought it was unsatisfactory, just send a complaint PM to me, Cassie or Erin and we can deal with the situation (or allow someone with more authority to) without making the person you're all criticising feel bad about themselves
I'm currently on my iPhone if you are seeing this message. Pretend like you care xx
scottish
27-10-2013, 01:19 AM
tbh when someone doesn't know the manager of their department you should question why they're staff..
Drunq
27-10-2013, 01:32 AM
loool i know who she is just not her habbo name (can't spell it)
FlyingJesus
27-10-2013, 01:37 AM
In future, if you thought it was unsatisfactory, just send a complaint PM to me, Cassie or Erin and we can deal with the situation (or allow someone with more authority to) without making the person you're all criticising feel bad about themselves
tbh I have no idea who Erin is and I wouldn't go to you or Cassie for help, nor would I have ever guessed that I was supposed to
I'll be speaking to the staff involved as well as the rules regarding members of staff present. I'm presuming looking at the print screen there weren't any other HxHD staff present which I don't believe is right. I'm sure it is another two HxHD staff to be present. And as far as I was aware Erin checked the questions before. I'll have a look at them myself for these and go from there. Usually the SNQ is highly planned and goes how it should, so don't think that this is something that happens a lot! :) Sorry for any issues caused etc.etc.
Only way to sort this mess is staff bonding.
Samantha
27-10-2013, 06:19 AM
There's no proof of FlyingJesus answering Q21 (We did it for the 3 who tied) I only said everyone could of answered it after the whole thing anyway. Sorry for my crap hosting then. :(.
I find it really funny and pathetic how you all raged up and Hayden you the most after I thought you was a nice person. Making such thread.
You told us you were doing more questions, again I said plural. In this case those who were in the quiz will usually stay to better their chance of winning, as you did say more questions.
The question was answered correctly first by FlyingJesus who should have then received the point. If FlyingJesus hadn't have won said point and one of the tie breaker people did it wouldn't be a problem as then we would have a winner. However when FJ won the scores were still tied. I find it unfair to say that because there is no proof of FJ winning, as we wouldn't have attempted to talk to you about it if we didn't.
Another thing, there were apparently 3 in the tiebreak, you asked none if they were ready and you didn't look whether they were in the room as you could have waited a couple of minutes to see if they come back.
CrazyLemurs; I see what you're saying, but if Hayden complained the only thing that could happen would be that he gets VIP too as the quiz is over. Also, due to the amount of witnesses and in fairnus minus points about Danny specifically, this is feedback. The occurrence was just one of many below average SNQs.
CrazyLemurs
27-10-2013, 06:34 AM
Trust Tom to never pay attention to staff
Let me be more generalised: complaints should go to the manager or their most available subordinates
I understand this could be used as feedback, but it seems like you're all now using this as a platform to vent your anger at Danny and it's become like you're ganging up on him
I'm currently on my iPhone if you are seeing this message. Pretend like you care xx
lemons
27-10-2013, 10:51 AM
Wow sounds worse than the quiz I hosted for another fansite at 8pm (started off with 5 people then suddenly about 30 people came in :( )
I can't stand HxHD SNQ anymore because nearly every host justs googles pub quiz questions so players can find the entire list of questions and answers
karter
27-10-2013, 11:11 AM
Most SNQ hosts are really clumsy. They ignore most of the people, refuse to redo when the questions are wrong/invalid and most of the time they give the points to the person who has answered second or third. Then you gotta try and get their attention but they keep on doing the questions...
I don't think there are many questions you have to google though. I have a problem with questions like "How many rock dividers are in this room" That ain't quiz. And what's worse is that these kind of questions are asked for tiebreaker
Inseriousity.
27-10-2013, 11:37 AM
Kudos to anyone who chooses to do SNQ. Think it's impossible to keep people happy with it. Either your questions are so easy it's a game of fastest typer or they're so hard it's called a "google quiz" cos everyone has to google first. There really isn't any way around that. You either know it or you don't and it's clear from this thread that people don't understand that.
Despite that, it's obvious that this isn't the case here: something went terribly wrong with this quiz and it does need to be looked into. Alex is right though, this thing could've easily been dealt with via PM. Even if you don't know who the manager/senior staff are, you know that those with lime green names are at the top of the hierarchy so you could always start there. Although hayden started this thread (as a manager you should know better really) so I doubt very much that he doesn't know who the hxhd manager is.
MKR&*42
27-10-2013, 12:00 PM
Sole fact I started this thread is due to the number of people in the room who could act as a 'witness' towards all of it (including screenshots^^) and just mainly to show how poorly it was run. I'm surprised trialists are allowed to run SNQ alongside the fact no senior was in the room and I would much rather it would be dealt in public where Erin can reply to everyone's issues instead of my sole one via PMing.
Not to mention the fact I disconnected from the hotel for a few minutes which is where some people have helped fill the gap about what happened^. SNQ has been dropping in quality a bit lately (it's not as terrible as some people say and I don't understand the whole 'no questions we can google' rubbish as that happens in every Habbo quiz ever, but it could be better) and sometimes it does take a thread to gather opinions from many others about the matter, Why don't we just ban feedback threads about anything that goes wrong as it could all easily be dealt with by everyone sending private messages to each other?
Cerys
27-10-2013, 12:17 PM
I must admit that from whenever I did SNQ it is a LOT of stress put on you as there's a room full of people who are generally annoyed and decide to take it out on you. When you're under this amount of stress it's very easy to make mistakes and slip up every now and then, but this just unfortunately makes the members in the room get even more angry and start shouting and complaining more, increasing the stress.
I'm sure any other person who has hosted SNQ can back me up on this aha
I don't think it's really fair on Danny to give him all this much hate over it. After all, it is just a quiz...on habbo...
Just convert HxHD into a lounge. It's not of use now anyway and quite dull. It can be used for better potential with stuff like management question time panels and so forth. Anyone defending its current status as a 'help desk' is just not with the times.
scottish
27-10-2013, 12:49 PM
Just convert HxHD into a lounge. It's not of use now anyway and quite dull. It can be used for better potential with stuff like management question time panels and so forth. Anyone defending its current status as a 'help desk' is just not with the times.
First the like system, now this
Anyone want to add any more terrible suggestions to the feedback forum?
OT: Why shouldn't they put it in feedback, if everyone was screaming fire him fair enough, but they're talking about his terrible hosting and failure for HxHD to follow their typical procedure if you will with regards to this SNQ.
Just convert HxHD into a lounge. It's not of use now anyway and quite dull. It can be used for better potential with stuff like management question time panels and so forth. Anyone defending its current status as a 'help desk' is just not with the times.
If we went back a year ago I'd disagree with you, more than likely due to myself being HxHD Staff. However now looking at it from a different perspective I do agree with you. The helping side of the help desk is rarely used, if ever. I resigned a few months ago however back when I was staff you were lucky to be asked a genuine Habbo/x question in the space of a day. This is ultimately down to Habbo making it ever more easier to complete quests as well as the introduction of the help system, which again is rarely used.
I remember back when Lizzie was manager for a brief while she made a drastic change to the department with the introduction of all staff getting rights and other things along those lines. I'd love to see Ekelektra; do something similar, shying away from the help side of the help desk and develop it into something fresh. E.g. Firing a few staff members and turning the help desk role into a room moderating role, possibly turning the department into a less demanding one than it already is.
First the like system, now this
Anyone want to add any more terrible suggestions to the feedback forum?
OT: Why shouldn't they put it in feedback, if everyone was screaming fire him fair enough, but they're talking about his terrible hosting and failure for HxHD to follow their typical procedure if you will with regards to this SNQ.
You say it's terrible yet you don't justify why scott. It's a de facto lounge already and all the help desk staff do when they are actually behind the bars are moderate or have banter with people.
Sieglinde
27-10-2013, 01:00 PM
I remember when I did SNQ.
Some people were moaning cos they didn't want a point update and some were moaning cos they did.
It's really hard to please people when doing it ;l
scottish
27-10-2013, 01:02 PM
You say it's terrible yet you don't justify why scott. It's a de facto lounge already and all the help desk staff do when they are actually behind the bars are moderate or have banter with people.
Go look through feedback and you'll see the 10 threads regarding this already that's been shot down and justified as to why it was a **** idea.
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I remember when I did SNQ.
Some people were moaning cos they didn't want a point update and some were moaning cos they did.
It's really hard to please people when doing it ;l
then give a point update after 5-10 questions, not hard..
you'll be taking note of points on notepad anyway or somewhere so simply copy and paste..
Inseriousity.
27-10-2013, 01:21 PM
You say it's terrible yet you don't justify why scott. It's a de facto lounge already and all the help desk staff do when they are actually behind the bars are moderate or have banter with people.
On the other hand, you could argue if it's already a 'de facto lounge' by the vast majority of habbox people (and I'd agree, it is generally used for that purpose) then to make that official is pointless when the help desk actually does still help people. Clearly, it's not used as much since the old days when other tools to help people weren't in place but people still do come in to ask for help and they're also very often the very same people who Habbox needs to attract ('how do i get credits' seems to be a common question which could be perfect advertising for comps and events) so to remove that is to remove a useful advertising tool and more effort actually needs to be done on making the most of that opportunity - staff don't always realise when they could advertise more effectively than spamming a link - rather than taking that away and turning it into an official lounge when its already an unofficial lounge.
Absently
27-10-2013, 02:40 PM
I think if it was called some sort of like "Habbox Party Room" it'd gain way more attention and probably be easier to get more users. Like someone else has said, you could just have a few mods to moderate the room and that's about it. I don't think the whole "how to get credits" people coming to the room ain't the best, because they want them right NOW, meaning all the advertising is gone down the drain and simply no point.
FlyingJesus
27-10-2013, 03:29 PM
Sending complaints via PM works perfectly as we all know, which is why Cassie got a promotion rather than being fired and the events department is thriving
Sending complaints via PM works perfectly as we all know, which is why Cassie got a promotion rather than being fired and the events department is thriving
What are you serious?!? Lol she is actually the worst member of staff since forever
karter
27-10-2013, 03:44 PM
^ that was sarcasm lol
FlyingJesus
27-10-2013, 03:45 PM
Yeah lol multiple reports about her bullying people and being generally useless so she's made senior HELP DESK staff (lit even funnier than me being community support manager) and no action against her in events although to be fair they can't really afford to lose even more of their staff
Yeah lol multiple reports about her bullying people and being generally useless so she's made senior HELP DESK staff (lit even funnier than me being community support manager) and no action against her in events although to be fair they can't really afford to lose even more of their staff
I find it funny how Martin and Alex will fire people who host popular events such as myles and evanora because they probably like like them/lick their asses like Cassie's does and despite her being worse she's still thete
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^ that was sarcasm lol
I know I was on about her promotion
http://i41.tinypic.com/301ljzl.png
It's impossible to get on at Danny because he left before it finished and wasn't replying even then. Also well done missing the point entirely Mark even after it's been explained many many times - it's about the fact that she was cheating and lying about what questions she got right, not that she "won". If she's actually got more points then it wouldn't be an issue but she didn't
Also Q20 the accepted answer which she got was in fact incorrect, as people do not "tell jokes" if they don't get treats while trick or treating lmao
Uhm hold on, I wasn't there or anything but I think it's worth mentioning. The very last part of that screenshot, does that imply that the questions/answers were leaked and Jade knew about it in advance and they went ahead and used the questions anyway? :S
so much fuss lol
wold just like to take a moment to thank all the staff that endure this **** week in week out and host the quiz. xx
Foregetfuhl
29-10-2013, 07:27 AM
Uhm hold on, I wasn't there or anything but I think it's worth mentioning. The very last part of that screenshot, does that imply that the questions/answers were leaked and Jade knew about it in advance and they went ahead and used the questions anyway? :S
Tbf, I found out at 5 to 7 and questioned Danny on Skype regarding it the minute I was told, he told me he hadn't and I asked him to change the questions if he had, at which point he then continued to promise he hadn't and I presumed that it was all some kind of joke. Obviously that wasn't the case and the questions weren't changed and I couldn't be at the event to make sure that whatever should have happened did. At this point in time I'm still awaiting a copy of the questions asked and what not, but I am still quite annoyed that I am still finding out, even now, that other people, not just the person in question were given the answers for this SNQ. Once I know whats going on in HxHD it will be paramount we make sure the rules in place for SNQ are actually followed, as there were quite a few things that weren't followed for the SNQ's of late.
Empired
29-10-2013, 08:51 AM
Uhm hold on, I wasn't there or anything but I think it's worth mentioning. The very last part of that screenshot, does that imply that the questions/answers were leaked and Jade knew about it in advance and they went ahead and used the questions anyway? :S
Tbf, I found out at 5 to 7 and questioned Danny on Skype regarding it the minute I was told, he told me he hadn't and I asked him to change the questions if he had, at which point he then continued to promise he hadn't and I presumed that it was all some kind of joke. Obviously that wasn't the case and the questions weren't changed and I couldn't be at the event to make sure that whatever should have happened did. At this point in time I'm still awaiting a copy of the questions asked and what not, but I am still quite annoyed that I am still finding out, even now, that other people, not just the person in question were given the answers for this SNQ. Once I know whats going on in HxHD it will be paramount we make sure the rules in place for SNQ are actually followed, as there were quite a few things that weren't followed for the SNQ's of late.
Yes!! I thought this in-game but everyone was making such a fuss I couldn't be bothered to try and point it out. PoisonedLies (not sure of her real name) actually answered a question (though I can't remember which one it was) before the question had been asked. I thought this was really weird but probably just a coincidence but she kept answering questions faster than everyone else, like she already knew the answers and was just c+ping them.
If she had been sent the answers/questions, that's totally unacceptable and I would be embarrassed for HxHD.
Sloths
29-10-2013, 09:04 AM
I was called into this as soon as I woke up and came online, I got told the story by Hayden so it may have been biased but I didn't take sides either way. There were no other help desk staff in the room at the time other than Danny and to even be a senior staff and host SNQ on your own is hard enough let alone being a trialist only in the job for a fortnight or so. SNQ needs to be worked on really and I think it was Rosy who suggested people host in pairs to lessen the stress a bit, this could be implicated more or there needs to at least be more than the host in the room at the time as if people actually come in for help they'll be ignored (and for the record I've only been behind the desk for like 3 hours since i rejoined the dept and I've had a lot of people coming in for help, that might be just my timezone but it's still useful to some habbos).
Basically the questions need to be checked to be a mixture of easier and harder questions to make sure the same people dont win all the time and others stand a chance and the questions need to be kept secret. It's not a total fail if people still continue to turn up and play it just needs to be improved a lot and the staff to work together to make sure one of your staffmates aren't alone hosting and being constantly bullied by other competitive habbos.
myles
29-10-2013, 09:32 AM
Disgusting.
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What are you serious?!? Lol she is actually the worst member of staff since forever
jesus
Samantha
29-10-2013, 09:45 AM
Yes!! I thought this in-game but everyone was making such a fuss I couldn't be bothered to try and point it out. PoisonedLies (not sure of her real name) actually answered a question (though I can't remember which one it was) before the question had been asked. I thought this was really weird but probably just a coincidence but she kept answering questions faster than everyone else, like she already knew the answers and was just c+ping them.
If she had been sent the answers/questions, that's totally unacceptable and I would be embarrassed for HxHD.
I noticed this sorta,but more for Youthfully who also got answers insanely quick, I never saw the question answered early though, just wow to that.
lemons
29-10-2013, 09:53 AM
I doubt answers were given out - Danny probably googled the questions which lead to pub quiz sites with ALL the questions and used them, so when players look up one question the rest come up - and a lot of hosts do this which is why it's important to create your own.
scottish
29-10-2013, 11:04 AM
fire him, it's your only option
Kardan
29-10-2013, 11:13 AM
I was called into this as soon as I woke up and came online, I got told the story by Hayden so it may have been biased but I didn't take sides either way. There were no other help desk staff in the room at the time other than Danny and to even be a senior staff and host SNQ on your own is hard enough let alone being a trialist only in the job for a fortnight or so. SNQ needs to be worked on really and I think it was Rosy who suggested people host in pairs to lessen the stress a bit, this could be implicated more or there needs to at least be more than the host in the room at the time as if people actually come in for help they'll be ignored (and for the record I've only been behind the desk for like 3 hours since i rejoined the dept and I've had a lot of people coming in for help, that might be just my timezone but it's still useful to some habbos).
Basically the questions need to be checked to be a mixture of easier and harder questions to make sure the same people dont win all the time and others stand a chance and the questions need to be kept secret. It's not a total fail if people still continue to turn up and play it just needs to be improved a lot and the staff to work together to make sure one of your staffmates aren't alone hosting and being constantly bullied by other competitive habbos.
I don't care if you're a trialist, it's pretty darn easy to not give out answers to a quiz.
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I doubt answers were given out - Danny probably googled the questions which lead to pub quiz sites with ALL the questions and used them, so when players look up one question the rest come up - and a lot of hosts do this which is why it's important to create your own.
That doesn't answer people giving answers to questions before they were asked. And considering the person who got given answers said she was given the answers, that's a pretty clear indication.
MKR&*42
29-10-2013, 11:42 AM
I doubt answers were given out - Danny probably googled the questions which lead to pub quiz sites with ALL the questions and used them, so when players look up one question the rest come up - and a lot of hosts do this which is why it's important to create your own.
The way she typed so quick and admitted they were leaked (I have another screenie, well did have until I forgot to save of her sayin "5 of us had answers and 3 of us decided not to play") it is most likely they did have the answers.
I don't get how they got leaked though.. afaik only Danny and Erin see the questions, so one of them gave them out?
Ms.Aquamarine
29-10-2013, 11:51 AM
so much fuss lol
wold just like to take a moment to thank all the staff that endure this **** week in week out and host the quiz. xx
Agreed, Kyle. No host is going to be perfect and not everyone is going to like the questions asked for this quiz (when they have been checked thoroughly), but hey every single person won't be pleased and that's fine - just moving along. Now in a situation like this where there are issues, just calmly inform Erin, Matt, and Jade so it can be dealt with and improvements can be made. Even offer suggestions on what could be done, rather than being negative and pointing out everything wrong because that doesn't help anybody!
It can not be automatically assumed that answers were given out unless the actual proof is held. Possibly what could have happened was that after the first or second question was asked, it was googled - leading to a list of questions being found in the same pattern. Someone could also say that they were given the answers. If so, they need to provide the proof that they were and action will be taken from there.
What I used to do is private message my Help Desk Assistant Manager, General Manager, Assistant General Manager (community), and sometimes the senior(s) if they would like to help check up on the question and answers. With all of these people knowing knowing what the SNQ questions are, it will be easier to spot mistakes. If this isn't done anymore, I encourage Erin to roll it on back in!
Kardan
29-10-2013, 12:32 PM
Agreed, Kyle. No host is going to be perfect and not everyone is going to like the questions asked for this quiz (when they have been checked thoroughly), but hey every single person won't be pleased and that's fine - just moving along. Now in a situation like this where there are issues, just calmly inform Erin, Matt, and Jade so it can be dealt with and improvements can be made. Even offer suggestions on what could be done, rather than being negative and pointing out everything wrong because that doesn't help anybody!
It can not be automatically assumed that answers were given out unless the actual proof is held. Possibly what could have happened was that after the first or second question was asked, it was googled - leading to a list of questions being found in the same pattern. Someone could also say that they were given the answers. If so, they need to provide the proof that they were and action will be taken from there.
What I used to do is private message my Help Desk Assistant Manager, General Manager, Assistant General Manager (community), and sometimes the senior(s) if they would like to help check up on the question and answers. With all of these people knowing knowing what the SNQ questions are, it will be easier to spot mistakes. If this isn't done anymore, I encourage Erin to roll it on back in!
To be fair, taking all the questions from a website and then saying those questions in order is just as bad as giving the answers out. So something needs to be done no matter what happened.
Ms.Aquamarine
29-10-2013, 01:52 PM
This is why I had said ~ "Now in a situation like this where there are issues, just calmly inform Erin, Matt, and Jade so it can be dealt with and improvements can be made."
(Oh and by 'this quiz' I meant SNQ in general, just to be clear here)
Sloths
29-10-2013, 06:21 PM
I don't care if you're a trialist, it's pretty darn easy to not give out answers to a quiz.
I didn't mean that part, that part is stupid and should've been dealt with. Hosting well enough to please people, controlling and moderating room and helping if need be all on your own is more than enough work.
Kardan
29-10-2013, 06:24 PM
I didn't mean that part, that part is stupid and should've been dealt with. Hosting well enough to please people, controlling and moderating room and helping if need be all on your own is more than enough work.
To be fair, I don't even expect the Help Desk Manager to host a SNQ that pleases everyone.
Sloths
29-10-2013, 06:32 PM
To be fair, I don't even expect the Help Desk Manager to host a SNQ that pleases everyone.
I doubt anyone has ever hosted a SNQ (or event for that matter) that's pleased everyone it's too hard when it's competitive and people are going to lose. That's why time needs to be put into getting a nice set of questions rather than taking them off the first websites available when googling pub quiz. If you don't want to do that and still want to host I think it's still in place where you can ask for a senior to write your questions. Still won't please everyone though so just aim to please the most you can as a host..
trialists arent given rights (unless something has changeD??) so not sure why they should be allowed to host, especialy if theyre alone. frankly though from what I can tell the helpdesk is a bit more of a mess than usual so I guess theyll take whatever they can get.
questions should be written by the host, not sourced from a website. it's 20 questions, it really isnt that hard to think of some if you have half a brain cell. perhaps the incentive to host (+1hr to their helpdesk time last I knew?) needs to be increased so people are more prepared to endure the hate. I would also suggest having 2 people host it but I know it would be unreasonable to ask about 1/3 of the current team to be on at the same time.
Tbf, I found out at 5 to 7 and questioned Danny on Skype regarding it the minute I was told, he told me he hadn't and I asked him to change the questions if he had, at which point he then continued to promise he hadn't and I presumed that it was all some kind of joke. Obviously that wasn't the case and the questions weren't changed and I couldn't be at the event to make sure that whatever should have happened did. At this point in time I'm still awaiting a copy of the questions asked and what not, but I am still quite annoyed that I am still finding out, even now, that other people, not just the person in question were given the answers for this SNQ. Once I know whats going on in HxHD it will be paramount we make sure the rules in place for SNQ are actually followed, as there were quite a few things that weren't followed for the SNQ's of late.
Okay well since I guess you pretty much did all you could in that situation I'm sorry for bringing it to attention. It just confused me. Hope the right decision is made in light of this Jade.
fire him, it's your only option
Scott, don't think I've ever agreed with you before
I doubt answers were given out - Danny probably googled the questions which lead to pub quiz sites with ALL the questions and used them, so when players look up one question the rest come up - and a lot of hosts do this which is why it's important to create your own.
Yeah you could say that but at the same time, I don't think anyone would take the same 20 questions in a row unless they w3ere completely braindead. It was also said by the person who 'won' that they knew questions in advance and Jade even knew about it.
Absently
30-10-2013, 12:11 AM
I doubt anyone has ever hosted a SNQ (or event for that matter) that's pleased everyone it's too hard when it's competitive and people are going to lose. That's why time needs to be put into getting a nice set of questions rather than taking them off the first websites available when googling pub quiz. If you don't want to do that and still want to host I think it's still in place where you can ask for a senior to write your questions. Still won't please everyone though so just aim to please the most you can as a host..the first time i ever hosted snq it went down extremely well and i didn't have any complaints*+*+* :P although, i never used the websites to find questions, just wrote them all myself because it's really that easy
Drunq
03-11-2013, 05:54 AM
Yes!! I thought this in-game but everyone was making such a fuss I couldn't be bothered to try and point it out. PoisonedLies (not sure of her real name) actually answered a question (though I can't remember which one it was) before the question had been asked. I thought this was really weird but probably just a coincidence but she kept answering questions faster than everyone else, like she already knew the answers and was just c+ping them.
If she had been sent the answers/questions, that's totally unacceptable and I would be embarrassed for HxHD.
I'd never of leaked the questions anyway.
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lemons
03-11-2013, 10:02 AM
I'd never of leaked the questions anyway.
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PoisonedLies and Youthfully told me that one of them went on an EleketraMuted account and asked the answers off of you hence the reason they got so many points
Drunq
03-11-2013, 03:32 PM
PoisonedLies and Youthfully told me that one of them went on an EleketraMuted account and asked the answers off of you hence the reason they got so many points
wow i thought that was erin. god no wonder they were leaked i printscreened for them cos well erin didnt say she lost them they made it up
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Kardan
03-11-2013, 06:42 PM
wow i thought that was erin. god no wonder they were leaked i printscreened for them cos well erin didnt say she lost them they made it up
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But wouldn't you send the print screen to the real manager?
Drunq
03-11-2013, 06:43 PM
But wouldn't you send the print screen to the real manager?
No. You have to PM her your questions Thursday on the forum. I thought it was weird and odd though saying she lost them. I got trolled. :'( WAAAH
xxMATTGxx
03-11-2013, 06:48 PM
No. You have to PM her your questions Thursday on the forum. I thought it was weird and odd though saying she lost them. I got trolled. :'( WAAAH
Looks like you were easily trolled :P
Kardan
03-11-2013, 06:49 PM
No. You have to PM her your questions Thursday on the forum. I thought it was weird and odd though saying she lost them. I got trolled. :'( WAAAH
How did you send the print screen to the fake people? Surely you would say:
"Sure, I'll PM it you on the forum again"
Drunq
03-11-2013, 06:52 PM
How did you send the print screen to the fake people? Surely you would say:
"Sure, I'll PM it you on the forum again"
i tried that but they made somethin up and wouldnt stop askin
Kardan
03-11-2013, 07:05 PM
i tried that but they made somethin up and wouldnt stop askin
Well, you got fooled pretty easily. You'd always give it over the forum.
Samantha
03-11-2013, 10:14 PM
What I find funny is you think an international manager would be on in the early hours of the morning for her, and if she was the manager she would have obviously been professional and PM or VMed you (and you could have done the same).
lemons
03-11-2013, 10:16 PM
Omg guys leave him alone it's a mistake anyone could make
Samantha
03-11-2013, 10:35 PM
Omg guys leave him alone it's a mistake anyone could make
If you didn't want people to discuss it you shouldn't have posted it in the first place surely?
It's gone now and it looks like nothing got done as the department doesn't even have a proper manager.
lemons
03-11-2013, 10:40 PM
If you didn't want people to discuss it you shouldn't have posted it in the first place surely?
It's gone now and it looks like nothing got done as the department doesn't even have a proper manager.
Well people were unfairly trying to make it seem as if he gave out the answers on purpose
Samantha
03-11-2013, 10:42 PM
Well people were unfairly trying to make it seem as if he gave out the answers on purpose
I don't think they're getting at that, more of the fact that many would have figured out it wasn't Erin or used proper means.
scottish
04-11-2013, 10:39 AM
Did you even ask for any proof it's her other than the fact the name was Elektra or whatever in it? :S
If you're fooled that easily then really shouldn't be staff.
Kardan
04-11-2013, 11:14 AM
Well people were unfairly trying to make it seem as if he gave out the answers on purpose
You shouldn't give answers out full stop. If your manager requests the answers, you send them via PM.
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