Lack of events?

[MKR&*42]

----------------Not arguing about the entire events dept just the lack of events tyvm--------------------

Why have there been so few events lately? I mean it's the term time and I understand some staff will be out with friends etc. the amount of events is still incredibly low. For today there's only about 2/3 booked and there's around 15 staff members.

I understand there were more staff during HxSS and such, but there really shouldnt only be 2 a day in contrast to:

HFFM
http://i.imgur.com/EZXQF4e.png

ThisHabbo
http://i.imgur.com/HfXtsqI.png

HabboFest
http://i.imgur.com/Noc1bg4.png

SnapHabbo
http://i.imgur.com/4pXrked.png

Even FlyHabbo
http://i.imgur.com/nTFsjUM.png

Habbokingdom which was official as of a few days ago..
http://i.imgur.com/VUfhCdy.png

And you're on par with HabbCrazy
http://i.imgur.com/KdLtH73.png
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I know you can't just force staff to host an event, but the fact you're joint bottom out of the major fansites in terms of events being hosted today + the fact Habbox is generally more popular than the majority of those up there excluding 2/3 is a bit shameful. There either needs to be some kind of recruitment drive (I know HCrazy did a job fair or something before idk) or some form of encouragement for staff to host more events. I know you might be trying but numbers this low are really quite silly.

And ik HFFM/TH have more events staff, but same can't be applied to all those sites.

[FlyingJesus]

Alex and Martin are very hard working and [THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE WORKS]/[THEY WILL LOOK INTO THIS] (delete as appropriate)

[Inseriousity.]

Perhaps you'd both care to share how you'd do things differently.

[Kardan]

Also can zebbadi; and Smurfed-; post GMT, not BST now.

[FlyingJesus]

Perhaps you'd both care to share how you'd do things differently.

Ok. (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=786952)

[Inseriousity.]

Both have gone now, wow they do what you say and still they're criticised ;)
Just skimmed through the thread and there doesn't seem to be any ideas there as to how to increase the amount of events.

[AgnesIO]

Don't be silly OP, staff don't have friends :S

I think the most obvious question to ask is.. if HFFM can do it, why can't we? None of the normal excuses work when OTHER FANSITES are managing to get events in.

I know what we need. Don't get the carrot and bingo. Everyone wants those.

​I was joking about the friends thing...

[zebbadi]

Also can zebbadi; and Smurfed-; post GMT, not BST now.

Omg, totes forgot.

[sex]

Both have gone now, wow they do what you say and still they're criticised ;)
Just skimmed through the thread and there doesn't seem to be any ideas there as to how to increase the amount of events.

Pretty sure I posted in that thread get rid people into the department who are popular on habbo and their friends will probably follow and want to host to.. But Martin and Alex are 100% habbox focused (Martin more than Alex) so no point in them trying at all...

But yes that's an idea!! But I'm sure it's in the works

[lemons]

hfest tournament is fun i recommend you all attend

it's like hxss but with less rigging :P

o/t i don't know why but whenever i go to a habbox event i only see regular habbox people

go to a hffm/thishabbo etc event then you see a variety of people from a variety of fansites because they have more fun events and seem more motivated to host the events and there needs to be more events staff!!

[Mr-Trainor]

hfest tournament is fun i recommend you all attend

it's like hxss but with less rigging :P

o/t i don't know why but whenever i go to a habbox event i only see regular habbox people

go to a hffm/thishabbo etc event then you see a variety of people from a variety of fansites because they have more fun events and seem more motivated to host the events and there needs to be more events staff!!
Maybe because you know who 'Habbox people' are but you don't know who the hffm/thishabbo people are :P?
Not saying I disagree with what you've said, but just a thought. Idk which fansite you use more.

[lemons]

Maybe because you know who 'Habbox people' are but you don't know who the hffm/thishabbo people are :P?
Not saying I disagree with what you've said, but just a thought. Idk which fansite you use more.

the vast majority of people at habbox events are either staff or regulars in the helpdesk/active on the forum and i definitely know this

even if i don't know anyone at th/hffm etc it's still clear who works with them and who is just visiting

they seem to have a larger community because they're more 'noob' friendly and imo if I was a newbie I wouldn't feel welcome at habbox events

[FlyingJesus]

o/t i don't know why but whenever i go to a habbox event i only see regular habbox people

Always been a problem, and it's because people go there just to talk to their friends (hosts included) rather than take their roles seriously... then we get told that staff need MORE "staff bonding" as though they aren't already cliquey enough in the way they exclude non-Hx players. I think variety is a swear word in events

[Absently]

i always feel quite intimidated nowadays in habbox events, i find i get ignored if i say stuff because not many people know who i am. dno might just be me tho lol :S

[lemons]

i always feel quite intimidated nowadays in habbox events, i find i get ignored if i say stuff because not many people know who i am. dno might just be me tho lol :S
I agree an event with like 15 people and 10 of them are in one of the habbox cliques it can very intimidating

[MKR&*42]

Maybe start by outright banning any form of pathetic event for a few weeks - pod racing/don't hit my wall, don't roll a 6, 5 4 3 2 1, don't get a carrot, fridge game, mocha/fridge races (unless you're gonna add some obstacles to make it a bit harder) ETCETERA ETCETERA and actually get staff to try and host a remotely difficult event (I know that word must be whispered in fear around these parts of fansites I do forgive). I wouldn't say make it a permanent thing as there are people who enjoy such events, but the extent to which they're hosted today is ridiculous.

Increase minimum. It's either 2 or 3 at the moment which isn't good tbh - I know it's voluntary work on a site and every little bit counts, but staff should be expected to do at least 5 events a week if I'm gonna be honest. It's not directly 5 hours as we can remove 10 minutes for room getting full, and 10 minutes if you want to finish early = 40 minutes = 200 minutes a week = just over 3 bleeding hours.

Go around to random small event rooms, adding the owner and asking if they'd be interesting in hosting for a fansite. I don't know if managers do this, but they really should and should encourage all other staff members to go round and do the same thing. Damn the only reason I only ever joined a fansite in the first place was because someone did that^ might actually be beneficial and a boost to the Habbox events team

Have a group room where you can host wired events. Just get EOs to drop spare wired pieces they know they won't need soon into a giant group room and they can experiment by seeing what events they can come up with. I'm surprised there are so few wired-based events now considering the huge possibilities that are available with wired furniture. Better yet get some actual tutorials for how to create certain wired games in the events staff forum.

I agree so much with what everyone else has said about Habbox staff groups in events and I did complain about it before when I was in events as it's utterly ridiculous. I don't think there's a lot you can do to drive it away, but I only ever see Smurfed- actually communicating with non staff and attempting to build rapport because he probably knows how poor his staff are at doing it. I'm not even sure how you can encourage staff into doing it because they should all know how much it sucks when nobody knows who you are and you're just there all shy.

I legit don't know what else to say as I feel I'd just be reiterating 2 years of stuff.

Oh and host more trivia as it's like the most popular Habbo event I swear down.

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Inseriousity.; i hope that wasn't sarcastic rep :(

[Inseriousity.]

No, not sarcastic, I just have a personal dislike of threads pointing out problems and not saying what they would do to fix it, especially as I know from past experience that you're not exactly lacking in them. I don't agree with it all; the trivia games I've been to have never been popular, just the same people typing gmpt, stb and all the other silly anagrams and I'm not sure how banning events will somehow increase them (the thread title being 'lack of events') but at least the managers now have some ideas to work with.

[lemons]

I agree with everything you said Hayden

[AgnesIO]

No, not sarcastic, I just have a personal dislike of threads pointing out problems and not saying what they would do to fix it, especially as I know from past experience that you're not exactly lacking in them. I don't agree with it all; the trivia games I've been to have never been popular, just the same people typing gmpt, stb and all the other silly anagrams and I'm not sure how banning events will somehow increase them (the thread title being 'lack of events') but at least the managers now have some ideas to work with.

It really isn't difficult to work out answers though, and I don't play habbo.

What are HFFM doing that Habbox are not? What are their staff numbers like? Do they have any well known room designers on board? What sort of events are they hosting? How are they promoting their events? The fact is, they are evidently doing something that Habbox is not, and it is the job of the Events Management and other staff to work out what this is.

[MKR&*42]

It really isn't difficult to work out answers though, and I don't play habbo.

What are HFFM doing that Habbox are not? What are their staff numbers like? Do they have any well known room designers on board? What sort of events are they hosting? How are they promoting their events? The fact is, they are evidently doing something that Habbox is not, and it is the job of the Events Management and other staff to work out what this is.

Oh that's what I forgot to mention. I was going to bring up how people need to check out other fansite events in a while and see how they're better than their own, take notes and build from it etc. :P

[Inseriousity.]

I never said it wasn't management's job to do that. Naturally, management can't just rely on feedback threads to point out problems. They identify and put things in place to deal with problems. However, if someone is to make a feedback thread, I don't think it's wrong to call them out when they identify a problem but don't give any ideas themselves.

[Absently]

ugh i literally hate trivia and will immediately not play a game if it's that, i generally find that in trivia it's just trolls playing? tbf, habbox already have enough of them lol...

[AgnesIO]

I never said it wasn't management's job to do that. Naturally, management can't just rely on feedback threads to point out problems. They identify and put things in place to deal with problems. However, if someone is to make a feedback thread, I don't think it's wrong to call them out when they identify a problem but don't give any ideas themselves.

I think this is where things are going wrong. The latter evidently isn't happening, at least in terms of there actually being events. This problem was highlighted ages ago, and yet there has apparently been no fix?

This section is Feedback - whilst it is good to give ideas (which Intersocial has, heh), people are more than entitled to say "I really think the events department needs to do more events", without supplying the department with ideas - that isn't their job.

[FlyingJesus]

Another 2 hosts gone...


They identify and put things in place to deal with problems.

When lol

[Inseriousity.]

Cos they're also human and not everything they try is going to work. They can't just wave a magic wand, say bippity boppity boo and then there's a full calendar of events. Lack of events isn't a recent problem. When I was AGM, the number of events were quite high and quantity-wise, the department was often reaching 15+ a day. The issue then (and I'm sure could be argued now) was quality.

They are entitled to say that just as I am entitled to question them further and see if they actually have any of their own ideas to fix the problem. Don't really need to have a job to show some common courtesy and give management something they can work with beyond pointing out problems they're already aware of.

[MKR&*42]

ugh i literally hate trivia and will immediately not play a game if it's that, i generally find that in trivia it's just trolls playing? tbf, habbox already have enough of them lol...

I do understand that haha. It's insanely popular and can get a room full rather quickly, but the people who play are usually the type of people "you wouldn't want to hang around with" to say the least.

[FlyingJesus]

Don't really need to have a job to show some common courtesy and give management something they can work with beyond pointing out problems they're already aware of.

Many many many ideas have been thrown their way over the past few months, and nothing at all has been done. If you want common courtesy in these matters then start with not accusing people of making baseless attacks when they've been constantly giving advice and been ignored for it. As you say it's not a new issue, and yet nothing whatsoever has been done other than Martin apologising lots and Alex telling us not to be mean to him - when he responds to these threads at all

[MKR&*42]

I also remember before when I was actually in the department and constantly told managers + seniors about people repeating similar events within like 12 hours that I ended up getting ignored in the end. I know eventually one of the seniors pretty much just told me to "shut up" and "stop moaning" because that solves every problem events has ever had by completely ignoring the issue and hoping it'll go away cause 1 staff stops complaining.

http://habboxwiki.com/Template:NavBox_Games

Also has AT LEAST 50 user made/wired games on it so ideas cannot be scarce it's just general laziness if there isn't variety. I could probably add a tonne more to the list as well in my spare time.

[Alkaz]

My roller squabble events were always popular and had decent prizes at the time like petal patches, DJ decks, coin sacks etc. I won an event the other day which wasn't particularly hard and could chose between something like a pod or 5 rep points. It felt like my time and effort in the room was totally pointless and I don't think I even got my prize!

[Inseriousity.]

Lack of events isn't really an old issue, you misunderstood what I said there. It was certainly not an issue when I resigned. It's not a baseless attack, it took for me to ask before any ideas about how to improve the lack of events - which was the particular issue raised in this thread - was given. As you've said previously, it is the role of management to decide which ideas given to them are worth trying and which are to be discarded. Just because they have not used every idea given to them doesn't mean they haven't used any at all. It is clear that the ideas they did use have not yet manifested in any visible benefits so they'll keep trying. They should use this thread to highlight the course of action they are taking as their efforts are not being communicated properly.

Here is what I would recommend btw:

- A scaling minimum. 7 for management, 5 for seniors, 3 for staff (it's currently 3 for everyone). I think if the department is struggling to get a good quantity of events then the general management should also lead from the front and get involved too.
- Create an events room for hosts to use
- Graham's idea about popular Habbos/hayden's idea about small-scale events hosts
- More weekly events

[FlyingJesus]

Lack of events isn't really an old issue, you misunderstood what I said there.

Lack of events isn't a recent problem.

Silly me.


On the subject of prizes, I still don't understand why there is no funding at all for events staff. That's one of the huge things holding people back from wanting to host because it's a constant operating loss without any real benefit, and this is something that's been addressed before without any response too despite being a pretty major detriment to the department. Suggestions of more lottery/grabber events have been made and ignored even though that would help alleviate problems with funding and lack of events, and any suggestions that supposedly have been accepted haven't shown at all, benefits or no

[Inseriousity.]

Oops my bad although the next sentence should've cleared that up.

I imagine the AGM change ruined any progress there. A prize fund was introduced when I was AGM but as it was a new thing it needed a bit more tinkering to make it into an effective system. I believe it's been disbanded (although I could be wrong) as Alex and Martin had to put their own money into it to make it work which naturally isn't very sufficient. The purpose of the grabber was that it would be used outside the lottery and that all managers could use it to collect funds. This didn't really work. However, I believe Jade's room is actually much more suited as there is space for a regular event then 3 different grabbers so it could become a regular thing in the events timetable for an events organiser to use that room while Jade and managers work on the grabber. It would be very easy to put this in place and that way, they can bring back the events prize fund and make it an effective and sustainable system.

Speaking of lottery, I counted and it made a 10c loss last month even though it's not that difficult to fill it. You can use the above to advertise the lottery too.

[Yupt]

why don't habbox have regional events staff. correct me if I'm wrong, but other fansites have almost sub-departments within their events team for different areas of the world, UK, USA, AU for example which means that they can host right throughout the day. Is this not a better system than just having "events staff".

[Empired]

i always feel quite intimidated nowadays in habbox events, i find i get ignored if i say stuff because not many people know who i am. dno might just be me tho lol :S
I reckon this is the main problem here.

I hate attending Habbox Events because basically the only people in there are the "ev3nts crew" and they just chat to the host so they don't pay attention, meaning the game can't get played properly. I know EOs are supposed to go into other events to get the room popular, but it's really annoying when you can't attract the host's attention because they're too busy messing about in front of their friends. I hate to say there has been more than one occasion where the host has tried to impress their friends by being horrible to the newest Habbos in the room. How in twelve types of instant soup are we supposed to attract new members when we are literally making them leave our rooms in embarrassment?

I know HxHD isn't perfect, but at least we don't intimidate other people to the point of them not wanting to come in the room anymore..

[AgnesIO]

Can a mod merge my posts if the double post thing don't work.

I imagine the AGM change ruined any progress there. A prize fund was introduced when I was AGM but as it was a new thing it needed a bit more tinkering to make it into an effective system. I believe it's been disbanded (although I could be wrong) as Alex and Martin had to put their own money into it to make it work which naturally isn't very sufficient. The purpose of the grabber was that it would be used outside the lottery and that all managers could use it to collect funds. This didn't really work. However, I believe Jade's room is actually much more suited as there is space for a regular event then 3 different grabbers so it could become a regular thing in the events timetable for an events organiser to use that room while Jade and managers work on the grabber. It would be very easy to put this in place and that way, they can bring back the events prize fund and make it an effective and sustainable system.

Speaking of lottery, I counted and it made a 10c loss last month even though it's not that difficult to fill it. You can use the above to advertise the lottery too.

How on earth does a lottery make a loss?

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[Grig]

why don't habbox have regional events staff. correct me if I'm wrong, but other fansites have almost sub-departments within their events team for different areas of the world, UK, USA, AU for example which means that they can host right throughout the day. Is this not a better system than just having "events staff".

Because they can't get any, they are struggling to get any UK events people, yet alone internationals. Tbh, and I'm not being biased, HxL is the only department that has regional staff and tries to bring in international members. On last count, we had about 16 international DJs, excluding myself and a Head DJ. This is good though because many get settled at Habbox and then join events and staff, like HE-Joshua just did as an example of the top of my head.

But really, we should corporate between departments to get international times boosted, because it should be the work of everyone together doing so, particularly for community departments like events and radio. Like stuff like a radio show and a cool big event co-hosted together is stuff that can do that.

Yet, and this is a qualm of mine, events management get angry at a DJ doing a small event for their show EVEN THOUGH they have only one event per day and that event they did linked to the show was not even clashing with any event. Mind you this was during Australian primetime in the UK early mornings, when there aren't ever any events on anyway. You want promotion? You don't come in rooms and start shouting at our DJs for attempting to do an event, that was linked to the radio. It goes against sense and the good of Habbox to do so, because it simply results to nothing on at those times at all. Not only that, but to say they should do the events department for doing a single event linked to the radio also makes no sense.

[Inseriousity.]

How on earth does a lottery make a loss?

Sent from my HTC One X

The main lotto is fixed at 100c so 100 tickets need to be sold for it to break even. Only 90 tickets were sold last month. This sounds like a challenge but it really isn't and it never made a loss when I was running it - even sold out several times. When I was competitions manager, I found that people weren't disinterested in ever entering competitions, they just needed a little push and it's the exact same with lottery tickets. They want to buy them but they're not likely to go out of their way to ask to buy them, you need to ask them and they will get snapped up. I also noticed that Jade didn't sell a single ticket so it's perhaps not surprising that managers are also starting to slack. It's a shame because it really is a great way to raise funds for competitions, room designs for quests, events etc. The grabber and lottery combined could then be used to create a sustainable system to fund the events organisers' prizes.

[Lewis]

Last event I went to, the host ignored what I said continuously until it had come to the point I had to spam him with bubbles to get an answer. It was a good reason I needed to talk to him, can't remember what it was for. And I haven't really played an event since, perhaps been in the event room though.

And that wouldn't be the first time it's happened to me. Especially if the host is talking to his / her friends...

[HE-Joshua]

Last event I went to, the host ignored what I said continuously until it had come to the point I had to spam him with bubbles to get an answer. It was a good reason I needed to talk to him, can't remember what it was for. And I haven't really played an event since, perhaps been in the event room though.

And that wouldn't be the first time it's happened to me. Especially if the host is talking to his / her friends...

I tend to agree with that - Grinds my gears.

[Kardan]

The main lotto is fixed at 100c so 100 tickets need to be sold for it to break even. Only 90 tickets were sold last month. This sounds like a challenge but it really isn't and it never made a loss when I was running it - even sold out several times. When I was competitions manager, I found that people weren't disinterested in ever entering competitions, they just needed a little push and it's the exact same with lottery tickets. They want to buy them but they're not likely to go out of their way to ask to buy them, you need to ask them and they will get snapped up. I also noticed that Jade didn't sell a single ticket so it's perhaps not surprising that managers are also starting to slack. It's a shame because it really is a great way to raise funds for competitions, room designs for quests, events etc. The grabber and lottery combined could then be used to create a sustainable system to fund the events organisers' prizes.

I always thought the lottery was just the combined total of all ticket sales?

[FlyingJesus]

I'm sure it used to be HALF of ticket sales since managers who sell them get to keep half the coins they raise...

[Inseriousity.]

The main lotto has always been 100c and has always been intended to raise a profit to help pay towards Habbox's running costs and increase funds for departments that desperately needed them. Relying on Jin to come online when you need credits isn't always reliable when he's so busy and I never had to ask him again once the lottery was in place. Managers kept half of what they sold and paid the other half to me. It was supposed to be 100% but to pay for it each month, I'd have personally needed to sell 150 tickets consistently each month, so it was decided managers would pay half to help cover just in case that didn't happen for whatever reason. I believe that managers now keep 100% as Jade uses the grabber to help recuperate the cost so that's a welcome step forward.

[Lewis]

The main lotto is fixed at 100c so 100 tickets need to be sold for it to break even. Only 90 tickets were sold last month. This sounds like a challenge but it really isn't and it never made a loss when I was running it - even sold out several times. When I was competitions manager, I found that people weren't disinterested in ever entering competitions, they just needed a little push and it's the exact same with lottery tickets. They want to buy them but they're not likely to go out of their way to ask to buy them, you need to ask them and they will get snapped up. I also noticed that Jade didn't sell a single ticket so it's perhaps not surprising that managers are also starting to slack. It's a shame because it really is a great way to raise funds for competitions, room designs for quests, events etc. The grabber and lottery combined could then be used to create a sustainable system to fund the events organisers' prizes.


when I first read the few words, I thought you meant fixed as in rigged lool.

I always thought the Habbox lottery made huge profits.

[FlyingJesus]

So there's all these credits floating around in manager's pockets and yet the only department that gets funded by management is comps... not sure how that works. The only departments that need creds are comps and events (potentially HxL but I don't often hear big cred comps on there) so any other managers making ticket sales ought to be helping them out, especially if the grabber is now making enough to run the lottery properly by itself or near enough. Surely that also shows that more grabber events would be a brilliant and proven way to build up funding for events - allowing senior events hosts to have their own Hx grabbers would boost this even more, and grabbers are from what I've seen pretty damn popular despite the ridiculously low payout

[Bails]

I reckon this is the main problem here.

I hate attending Habbox Events because basically the only people in there are the "ev3nts crew" and they just chat to the host so they don't pay attention, meaning the game can't get played properly. I know EOs are supposed to go into other events to get the room popular, but it's really annoying when you can't attract the host's attention because they're too busy messing about in front of their friends. I hate to say there has been more than one occasion where the host has tried to impress their friends by being horrible to the newest Habbos in the room. How in twelve types of instant soup are we supposed to attract new members when we are literally making them leave our rooms in embarrassment?

I know HxHD isn't perfect, but at least we don't intimidate other people to the point of them not wanting to come in the room anymore..

I'm not here to join in the argument but I'd just like to point out the red text in the above quote as I feel this is one of the primary problems we have here. This is coming from someone who has been in Events twice before and has seen this happen way too much.

[Inseriousity.]

Generally only community departments sell lottery tickets anyway. Rosy, who was the best seller, managed to sell roughly 60-80 tickets each month (so less than a gold bar each month for her department) and the money was largely spent on funding the seasonal events that HxHD put on/sourcing furni for layout changes.

I say all this because I think there's a strong argument that if different departments got involved in the act and used their earnings then it'd mean more community involvement and a wider range of activity from different corners. I was always disappointed at how reluctant some managers can be towards doing larger events/comps. A large part of why they are able to get away with that is they can say they don't have the funding and now there's a system in place where that excuse doesn't work. I believe strongly that content departments need to get involved in the community too and content managers should use the lottery to help them do that. For far too long they've been happy sitting behind the scenes (I noticed the content department did the traditional pumpkin hunt this year so kudos to them for that) and not integrating with the community. Perhaps now there's another AGM Content, there can be a better kick up the bum from them.

I've already said how I'd host the grabber but yes, using it to build a system where events is fully funded would be a huge step forward, make Habbox unique (I don't believe any other fansite does so and for good reason, it's not exactly cheap!) and bring some good events organisers who won't leave due to lack of funds.

[sex]

Generally only community departments sell lottery tickets anyway. Rosy, who was the best seller, managed to sell roughly 60-80 tickets each month (so less than a gold bar each month for her department) and the money was largely spent on funding the seasonal events that HxHD put on/sourcing furni for layout changes.

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err hxhd hardly put on any events apart from maybe two a yearand any furni borrowed for layouts was taken from users who designed it... me kyle and kirst usually were asked for furni
i dont remember any recent layout where rosy spend a large amount of credits on a layout.. i assume she got the furni back and kept it so essentially they are being paid if they dont use it to fund events

[Inseriousity.]

Not always, I remember helping out searching for deckchairs and various other items for the summer one. No-one's getting paid because no-one's allowed to keep it for themselves. It's made very clear it's for your department and needs to go into improving that. How that is done is up to the manager but I know that hxhd were able to give away a lot more credits than other departments because rosy was so good at selling them.

[sex]

Not always, I remember helping out searching for deckchairs and various other items for the summer one. No-one's getting paid because no-one's allowed to keep it for themselves. It's made very clear it's for your department and needs to go into improving that. How that is done is up to the manager but I know that hxhd were able to give away a lot more credits than other departments because rosy was so good at selling them.

Yeah thats because no one submitted a layout and they where forced to go with one years ago, they could hardly borrow the furni off someone who doesn't play. That's what? One layout out of the last 5/6 lol

[Smurfed-]

Maybe start by outright banning any form of pathetic event for a few weeks - pod racing/don't hit my wall, don't roll a 6, 5 4 3 2 1, don't get a carrot, fridge game, mocha/fridge races (unless you're gonna add some obstacles to make it a bit harder) ETCETERA ETCETERA and actually get staff to try and host a remotely difficult event (I know that word must be whispered in fear around these parts of fansites I do forgive). I wouldn't say make it a permanent thing as there are people who enjoy such events, but the extent to which they're hosted today is ridiculous.

Hi Hayden, a lot of the points you've raised are things I've already spoken to you about. Elliot gave us this idea last week. We haven't done it yet because the people we feel would benefit from this the most are currently away. We've started planning this and will be starting it from the 8th - 14th November. If we feel its a success (perhaps we'll ask the public's thoughts on how the week went too) we will start doing it more often. All of the events you have mentioned are already on the list, let us know if you think any more events should be added.


Increase minimum. It's either 2 or 3 at the moment which isn't good tbh - I know it's voluntary work on a site and every little bit counts, but staff should be expected to do at least 5 events a week if I'm gonna be honest. It's not directly 5 hours as we can remove 10 minutes for room getting full, and 10 minutes if you want to finish early = 40 minutes = 200 minutes a week = just over 3 bleeding hours.

Agreed, we've already discussed raising it from 2 events to 3 events per week, this will be coming into practice on November 1st. We did consider raising it to four events but we thought it would be better to start small and then to work up.


Go around to random small event rooms, adding the owner and asking if they'd be interesting in hosting for a fansite. I don't know if managers do this, but they really should and should encourage all other staff members to go round and do the same thing. Damn the only reason I only ever joined a fansite in the first place was because someone did that^ might actually be beneficial and a boost to the Habbox events team

This is a great idea, I know this idea can be really effective as I see it working for other fansites. I have done this occasionally but no where near enough for it to be affective. We'll start aiming to do this for 2-3 hours a week at the least. Like you say, we'll start encouraging other EOs to do the same thing.


Have a group room where you can host wired events. Just get EOs to drop spare wired pieces they know they won't need soon into a giant group room and they can experiment by seeing what events they can come up with. I'm surprised there are so few wired-based events now considering the huge possibilities that are available with wired furniture. Better yet get some actual tutorials for how to create certain wired games in the events staff forum.

I love the wired guides idea. This is something I haven't thought about doing before. There are a few people in the department who are wizards with wired and who I know wouldn't mind making a few guides. I know HxL have them (I used them quite a lot when I was staff) and they were really popular and were used reguarly. I'll post a thread after I've posted this asking if anyone would be willing to help management and seniors create them.


I agree so much with what everyone else has said about Habbox staff groups in events and I did complain about it before when I was in events as it's utterly ridiculous. I don't think there's a lot you can do to drive it away, but I only ever see Smurfed- actually communicating with non staff and attempting to build rapport because he probably knows how poor his staff are at doing it. I'm not even sure how you can encourage staff into doing it because they should all know how much it sucks when nobody knows who you are and you're just there all shy.

Again I couldn't agree more. I love talking to new people because it makes being at the event and hosting the event a lot more fun and worthwhile and more importantly, benefits Habbox. The problem is there's not really anyway you can encourage people to do it. Remember the events screenshots? I think this really helped hosts to become more interactive and certainly helped other non regular members feel involved. Shouting Habbox.com was a nice way to bring everyone together with the additional bit of advertising. I know screenshots are the reason thesubettaneg started regularly attending as she herself said she really enjoyed taking part in them.



I hate to say there has been more than one occasion where the host has tried to impress their friends by being horrible to the newest Habbos in the room. How in twelve types of instant soup are we supposed to attract new members when we are literally making them leave our rooms in embarrassment?

I know HxHD isn't perfect, but at least we don't intimidate other people to the point of them not wanting to come in the room anymore..

I really hope the above isn't true, if so why on earth did you not take screenshots and send them to us? Management aren't always in the events room so we can't always spot every problem, that's why we encourage people to send complaints in a pm. If you could PM me and Martin when this was and who the host and people involved were then that would be great.

It's true that HxHD don't intimidate people. Then again I don't see staff communicating with non regulars that much nor do I ever see any advertising from anyone behind the bar.

I'm sure Jade wont mind me saying this but she's now allowed us to keep 100% of credits gained from the lottery as she can raise just as much in the grabber. This now allows us to give more out in the monthly prize fund, at the moment they gain points for doing certain tasks such as hosting an event, hosting more than 5 events and hosting a weekly event. The value of prizes they receive depends on the number of points they gain. Now we can keep the lottery money we'll start thinking of ways they can get more from this. Then it will hopefully become more beneficial to them as a decent prize fund really is needed.

[Empired]

I really hope the above isn't true, if so why on earth did you not take screenshots and send them to us? Management aren't always in the events room so we can't always spot every problem, that's why we encourage people to send complaints in a pm. If you could PM me and Martin when this was and who the host and people involved were then that would be great.
It didn't involve me at all before, I barely even thought anything of it until I was reading this thread a few hours ago. If I see anything again I'll try and think to screenshot it.
And, not sure if you thought this but, my post wasn't a bite at management, saying you should always be in events! I was just saying something I'd seen happen once or twice.

[Smurfed-]

It didn't involve me at all before, I barely even thought anything of it until I was reading this thread a few hours ago. If I see anything again I'll try and think to screenshot it.
And, not sure if you thought this but, my post wasn't a bite at management, saying you should always be in events! I was just saying something I'd seen happen once or twice.

I know it wasn't a bite, sorry if my reply made it seem that way.

[FlyingJesus]

Glad to hear that there is something in the works and you'll start looking into it

[AgnesIO]

Are grabbers popular again? I thought they lost popularity?

Or is it still only the 1c ones that people like?

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[MKR&*42]

Are grabbers popular again? I thought they lost popularity?

Or is it still only the 1c ones that people like?

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Not as popular as they used to be, but still quite popular. Yes it's generally the 1c ones that gain the most popularity I haven't seen any others for a fair while

[AgnesIO]

Not as popular as they used to be, but still quite popular. Yes it's generally the 1c ones that gain the most popularity I haven't seen any others for a fair while

Oh OK - thought I was missing out on turning a quick profit!

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[Smurfed-]

Intersocial; We've started the guides and have completed the snake event so far.

[FlyingJesus]

Might I suggest that if there are no events booked for a slot that is about to start (ie: one event is about to end and nothing is happening afterwards) that trusted non-staff be allowed to take up the mantle as a temporary position? I think it would be best to make it so that a member of management or senior events staff be present to oversee it and make it seem more official but I think this would be taken up by a fair few people if they believed they were able to just do it as and when they can rather than be chartered in a real staff role - although of course some might choose to then join properly to get staff access and not need supervision to host. Would certainly mean more events are hosted as I quite often see plenty of staff online but no-one wanting to do one

[HE-Joshua]

Might I suggest that if there are no events booked for a slot that is about to start (ie: one event is about to end and nothing is happening afterwards) that trusted non-staff be allowed to take up the mantle as a temporary position? I think it would be best to make it so that a member of management or senior events staff be present to oversee it and make it seem more official but I think this would be taken up by a fair few people if they believed they were able to just do it as and when they can rather than be chartered in a real staff role - although of course some might choose to then join properly to get staff access and not need supervision to host. Would certainly mean more events are hosted as I quite often see plenty of staff online but no-one wanting to do one

That is the best Idea I heard all friggin day man! Some people don't want the badge and the full time requirements of events but are more than capable to do it from time to time - and have a fair idea of the do's and dont's.

[despect]

Maybe it could be an idea to maybe open up the role "Guest Events Organiser" and open it to just former senior+ and say they have a minimum of at least two events per week, that way you are at least getting those events plus the events that the staff are doing also, maybe that will help. Just an idea, i dunno if its something that management would be interested in but its definitely something that works well with other fansites.

I'm sure theres former members of senior+ that may want to do events but don't want to return for example.

[Inseriousity.]

Official guest roles are terrible. Everyone wants the staff perms (and all the perks that entails) without any of the commitment. Tom's idea of an unofficial guest system for people to chip in as and when required sounds like a much easier way to get the same thing without making the staff you've got lazy.

[Mr-Trainor]

Maybe it could be an idea to maybe open up the role "Guest Events Organiser" and open it to just former senior+ and say they have a minimum of at least two events per week, that way you are at least getting those events plus the events that the staff are doing also, maybe that will help. Just an idea, i dunno if its something that management would be interested in but its definitely something that works well with other fansites.

I'm sure theres former members of senior+ that may want to do events but don't want to return for example.
But if you're giving them a title and then giving them a minimum, is that not essentially giving them a staff role and therefore defeating the point :P?

[despect]

But if you're giving them a title and then giving them a minimum, is that not essentially giving them a staff role and therefore defeating the point :P?

I believe the minimum is three events per week, because i know sometimes guest roles are introduced and the guests literally do nothing, so giving them some sort of minimum would at least make all the guests active :).

[Lewis]

Maybe it could be an idea to maybe open up the role "Guest Events Organiser" and open it to just former senior+ and say they have a minimum of at least two events per week, that way you are at least getting those events plus the events that the staff are doing also, maybe that will help. Just an idea, i dunno if its something that management would be interested in but its definitely something that works well with other fansites.

I'm sure theres former members of senior+ that may want to do events but don't want to return for example.

Or preferably allow trusted ex-events organisers to host extra events when a slot isn't being used or something. And maybe allow seniors / (assistant) managers of any department to host events to contribute.

[FlyingJesus]

It's only just gone up from 2 to 3 so anyone who quit before isn't likely to be tempted back by being given the same work to do with less titular prestige :P the whole point was to keep it a casual thing that isn't actually a staff title at all unless they then decide to join

[despect]

Or preferably allow trusted ex-events organisers to host extra events when a slot isn't being used or something. And maybe allow seniors / (assistant) managers of any department to host events to contribute.

I didn't think of it this way but yeah i think that could work also :).

[Lewis]

Or preferably allow trusted ex-events organisers to host extra events when a slot isn't being used or something. And maybe allow seniors / (assistant) managers of any department to host events to contribute.

in a quote to myself...

I mean, I'd love to host the occasional event for Habbox but I'm not up to doing 2 a week, never mind 3 a week. Maybe if it was the same amount of events in an overall month, but not two-three a week. Too much pressure.

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah that was my point, there are plenty of people around who are capable and SOMETIMES willing but may not want to join up with the staff team and have a proper role, so it makes sense to allow these people to host (supervised) when no-one else is booked or wanting to do something. Seems daft that so often there are people sitting around just saying "oh there's no event on" when there are lots of people wanting one

[Mr-Trainor]

Yeah that was my point, there are plenty of people around who are capable and SOMETIMES willing but may not want to join up with the staff team and have a proper role, so it makes sense to allow these people to host (supervised) when no-one else is booked or wanting to do something. Seems daft that so often there are people sitting around just saying "oh there's no event on" when there are lots of people wanting one
Yeah I do think it'd help. The reason I never joined Events department for a long time was because I didn't like having to book events in advance etc, but I sometimes hosted small events if I was bored, which had to be non-Habbox.