Builder Mode

[Shorty]

So I remember a few people mentioning a "Builder" mode and asking members of staff about it, well today a new build seems to of added some sort of the "Builder" mode for Administrators on Habbo.com

http://i.imgur.com/KWmXZhi.png

I can't stress enough, that all this information is from Habbo.com and no private servers nor retros were used in gaining access to this feature.

[Scotland]

Cool! cant wait till its finished. :)

[Hidden]

could be for new rbi generation because powertoo requested this, but it got denied apparently.

[Michael]

Cool, seems like a faster way to make rooms without buying for staff or maybe it's a feature for us where you make the room then buy the room in one payment.

[Mr-Trainor]

Cool, seems like a faster way to make rooms without buying for staff or maybe it's a feature for us where you make the room then buy the room in one payment.
That'd be really good :D.. unless you DC'd and lost everything you had done so far lol.

[xxMATTGxx]

Looks pretty interesting - Thanks for sharing!

[RapLuvr334]

i dont think this is true

[Plutonioo]

Sounds interesting!

[Lucy]

I would of thought they would have always had this, it seems common sense to me. Though I guess buying furniture for a room they are building would that technically come under an expense for Sulake?

[Michael]

Builder mode is being tested by staff on the sandbox habbo (sandbox.habbo.com)

http://oi40.tinypic.com/vj3pj.jpg

http://puhekupla.com/en/news/2547

[Star-Fighter]

Last week an article was accidentally released in the Finnish hotel which had a poll about a "Room Building Club", which apparently is a club with a monthly fee and it allows you unlimited access to furniture in the catalogue for room building. The furniture disappears when your subscription ends. Or that's what I understood, the article was taken away fairly quickly as apparently it was a mistake, so not 100% of the final mechanics of it.

Speaking to mastertonig (staff in FI), he said it will be a new feature to come no matter what (made me wonder why a survey was made then, if our opinions won't matter). He said something about next week but I don't remember what exactly, so we'll have to wait and see.

So to conclude, could this be related to "builder mode"?

[Shorty]

Last week an article was accidentally released in the Finnish hotel which had a poll about a "Room Building Club", which apparently is a club with a monthly fee and it allows you unlimited access to furniture in the catalogue for room building. The furniture disappears when your subscription ends. Or that's what I understood, the article was taken away fairly quickly as apparently it was a mistake, so not 100% of the final mechanics of it.

Speaking to mastertonig (staff in FI), he said it will be a new feature to come no matter what (made me wonder why a survey was made then, if our opinions won't matter). He said something about next week but I don't remember what exactly, so we'll have to wait and see.

So to conclude, could this be related to "builder mode"?

Looks like this is true after the following were added today.

builders.club.enabled=true
CWE_BUILDER_SUBSCRIPTION_UPDATED

[e5]

So you pay a fee and get free furni? or the furni goes when the subscription does or just the ability to buy whatever furni?
Looks like this is true after the following were added today.

builders.club.enabled=true
CWE_BUILDER_SUBSCRIPTION_UPDATED

[Yawn]

http://www.habbo.com/articles/3026-builders-poll


What if you could browse a wide selection of furni and use as much as you’d like to build rooms, all with one easy subscription? Furni would not be tradeable and your rooms would become locked if you chose to let your subscription expire. Intrigued? Then please answer the questions below.
(When you're all done, to give us a bit more insight of what you think of this idea, please anwer a few more question in our Builders Poll room, password buildersheaven. Thanks a million:)

poll

Builders Poll, part 1
Would you pay to get the Builders Club subscription?

What do you think would be a fair price for it (per month)?

Would you prefer this type of service to buying furni individually to place in your rooms?

Would there still be some items you prefer to buy and keep? Which ones?

[MKR&*42]

I'm confused, with this builders mode surely you could make a room which you could use to host events in or whatever and you wouldn't actuall have to pay for the furni? It'd just remain there till ur subscription expires, no?

[Shorty]

http://i.imgur.com/83n0c3O.png

(Ignore the white boxes, it's Habbo experimenting with NEW_UI)

[Hidden]

This is going to destroy trading it will be such a disaster IMO.

[GoldenMerc]

Looks quite good.

[JaiHo]

This is going to destroy trading it will be such a disaster IMO.

My feeling exactly so anyone who has furni which will be in the subscription will lose out because it will become worthless?

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My feeling exactly so anyone who has furni which will be in the subscription will lose out because it will become worthless?

I mean why would you pay to buy something when you know you could get 100 of it if you just pay the subscription? This will only work if the subscription is like 200c a month

[JaiHo]

I'm going to sound like a raging conspiracy theorist here but Habbo just muted me for telling people to vote no to this idea, I didn't get a room mute and I wasn't spamming but am now muted for 2 hours and also I was warned for sexually explicit language when I used none.

[Bradley.]

basically rentable furni which is subscription based, you own it but can't trade it, you lose it you lost your furni

[Hidden]

People used to moan and still do moan about furni from quests being untradeable, so what is the purpose of wanting this? Tradeable or not, it is terrible. It will make the furniture look so common and will degrade it all making it a lot cheaper and be really annoying.

[JaiHo]

basically rentable furni which is subscription based, you own it but can't trade it, you lose it you lost your furni

But meanwhile the demand for furni avaliable through the subscription will fall which will lead to the lowering of prices and the loss of coins for anyone who has furni avaliable through subcription.

On another note now been muted on 3 accounts for telling people to vote no (I wasn't spamming)

[Shorty]

On another note now been muted on 3 accounts for telling people to vote no (I wasn't spamming)

It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't want people to persuade the vote. However, even if most people vote no, they'll still end up charging for it since the feature seems nearly complete anyway.

[Michael]

I'd hoped it would be a room preview before you brought the furni, so like create your room > buy your room in one purchase.
Seems not as the BETA testing for this is underway on a test hotel by selected users.

[GoldenMerc]

I guess this kills the idea of people using retros to room build, now they can do this

[RapLuvr334]

i doubt this is gonna happen

[Daltron]

I thought this was going to be a good idea but in hindsight and after reading these comments I think it won't be so great, especially for the trading community..

[RapLuvr334]

who cares

Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

[JaiHo]

Powertoo seems not to be able to grasp the simple fact that this will adversely effect those WITH furni and mostly likely those who have bought credits and it will benefit poor people (soz but it will) surely this isn't a good money making scheme?

[Bradley.]

But meanwhile the demand for furni avaliable through the subscription will fall which will lead to the lowering of prices and the loss of coins for anyone who has furni avaliable through subcription.

On another note now been muted on 3 accounts for telling people to vote no (I wasn't spamming)
might not be as in 'demand' as it'll most probably just be catalogue furni

[Okeanos]

it would be good for making events or games. im in two minds, i like the idea but it will probably mean furni goes down in value. would people be allowed to use this feature to make rooms for room comps?

[RapLuvr334]

i dont understand

[Demi]

Builder mode is being tested by staff on the sandbox habbo (sandbox.habbo.com)

http://oi40.tinypic.com/vj3pj.jpg

http://puhekupla.com/en/news/2547

What is Sandbox Habbo? A fake one?

[xxMATTGxx]

What is Sandbox Habbo? A fake one?

What do you mean by fake, like one of those illegal retro ones? A sandbox is a testing environment where they can test code/features/UI before putting it live on the hotels the public log onto. So they would be talking about the sandbox Sulake and other developers use most likely.

[Demi]

What do you mean by fake, like one of those illegal retro ones? A sandbox is a testing environment where they can test code/features/UI before putting it live on the hotels the public log onto. So they would be talking about the sandbox Sulake use most likely.

Yeah I meant retro. Not like a Sandbox where you mess around...
I'm glad it's not a retro, I was on it :)

[RapLuvr334]

huh

Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

[Michael]

What is Sandbox Habbo? A fake one?

Nope. sandbox.habbo.com its official for dev.habbo.com

[myke]

this is an interesting concept, i wonder how well it'll take off

[Demi]

Nope. sandbox.habbo.com its official for dev.habbo.com

Thanks :)

[Yawn]

im so nervous :'(

[da363bomb]

Such a bad idea, will destroy trading and will turn habbo into like a rettro.. Where everyone stays in their own rooms making stuff instead of visiting other rooms...

[Shorty]

Considering the catalogue furniture is very limited for the Builder mode, I doubt it will affect trading that much.
In fact, I even think a Builder Subscription could be deemed pointless considering what furniture is available and how 'limited' it could be in terms of amount of furniture used and time left.

[Lewis]

oh my god I've been banned from the sandbox for the reason 'invite only'. :(

on topic: could be a good feature in ways, but not in others. I wonder how much it'll cost. The minimum I think would be £10.00 per month. I don't know though.

[Kardan]

oh my god I've been banned from the sandbox for the reason 'invite only'. :(

on topic: could be a good feature in ways, but not in others. I wonder how much it'll cost. The minimum I think would be £10.00 per month. I don't know though.

Same here :P

[MKR&*42]

oh my god I've been banned from the sandbox for the reason 'invite only'. :(

on topic: could be a good feature in ways, but not in others. I wonder how much it'll cost. The minimum I think would be £10.00 per month. I don't know though.

Same, got banned few days back :rolleyes:

[Michael]

Everyone got banned from sandbox, and you can't create a new account either as they're using sandbox for BETA testing at the moment.

[Shorty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLkz_IevwyU

[Shorty]

http://i.imgur.com/FaejfdN.png

[Hidden]

They should remove country from cata if they do this then, country is quite useful and people have a fair amount of it.

[Kardan]

Ahh, so the only people that can enter these rooms are yourself and staff. Slightly pointless then.

[Rakker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iehXfNHsPQ

[Scotland]

Looking good..

[.red-bleu.]

so you can't buy buildermode for credits, in that case it isn't that bad..

[Kardan]

Looks very good, the only thing that looks bad at the moment is that wired isn't included at the moment.

[Hidden]

Why would you want a room for yourself and staff, seems really pointless unless you just buy it for what? 3days for a competition?

Whatever I'm sure some people will enjoy it but it looks really bad. Also still don't get what the obsession is with videos over screenshots... it ain't hard.

[Kardan]

Why would you want a room for yourself and staff, seems really pointless unless you just buy it for what? 3days for a competition?

Whatever I'm sure some people will enjoy it but it looks really bad. Also still don't get what the obsession is with videos over screenshots... it ain't hard.

Rooms are unlocked when you have an active subscription, locked when it expires.

[e5]

I suggested £3 a month for it. I was under the impression it would be cash not credits to join. Depending on what furniture is available depends on how much it should cost.

[Kardan]

Another question, can we put our ordinary furniture in these rooms as well as builders club furniture?

[HOSKO02]

Rooms are unlocked when you have an active subscription, locked when it expires.

Very interesting. So the user retains all their room designs but no-one can get in? What about using teleports to it, wouldn't work?

It seems Sulake are banking on the likelihood of new users to design rooms, then get locked into keeping them via subscription - instead of buying credits sporadically as before. Seems they're looking to make gains in bankable income, like regular HC payments, this all makes the balance books look better to investors and partners, will be interesting to see if it works long term. I'd guess normal furniture will still be sought after as it still holds full ownership and transferability exclusively, this system will be best used in competitions etc, probably came about after the first Room Builders Inc feedback huh?

[Shorty]

Subscriptions have always been a good way for companies to make money, it's just getting people to sign up and keep their subscriptions active which is the tricky part, check World of Warcraft for example, I don't play the game but I'm forever seeing their subscription figures drop within news blogs.

Habbo Club has always been popular among active playing Habbos due to the 'limited amount' of clothing/colours within normal range of changing looks, so Builders Club could become very successful if they get this right. Personally the idea of rooms being locked once a subscription expires is genius on their behalf, not so much for players though.

If players aren't actively changing the furniture within their rooms, then I doubt a subscription would be worthwhile. For example, designing a room and keeping it like that for a couple of months, you could save money by buying the furniture in the first place.

Think this is possibly the longest post I've ever made on Habbox, weird.

[Kardan]

Very interesting. So the user retains all their room designs but no-one can get in? What about using teleports to it, wouldn't work?

It seems Sulake are banking on the likelihood of new users to design rooms, then get locked into keeping them via subscription - instead of buying credits sporadically as before. Seems they're looking to make gains in bankable income, like regular HC payments, this all makes the balance books look better to investors and partners, will be interesting to see if it works long term. I'd guess normal furniture will still be sought after as it still holds full ownership and transferability exclusively, this system will be best used in competitions etc, probably came about after the first Room Builders Inc feedback huh?

That's why I asked if you can put ordinary furniture into these rooms as well, because if teleports aren't sold in the builders catalogue, and you can't put in normal furniture, then you can never use teleports to get in all the time.

[Michael]

Subscriptions have always been a good way for companies to make money, it's just getting people to sign up and keep their subscriptions active which is the tricky part, check World of Warcraft for example, I don't play the game but I'm forever seeing their subscription figures drop within news blogs.

Habbo Club has always been popular among active playing Habbos due to the 'limited amount' of clothing/colours within normal range of changing looks, so Builders Club could become very successful if they get this right. Personally the idea of rooms being locked once a subscription expires is genius on their behalf, not so much for players though.

If players aren't actively changing the furniture within their rooms, then I doubt a subscription would be worthwhile. For example, designing a room and keeping it like that for a couple of months, you could save money by buying the furniture in the first place.

Think this is possibly the longest post I've ever made on Habbox, weird.

I wonder how the Super Saver Subscription is going & if many are subscribed to it - they've kinda forgotten about that!

[Rakker]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8xLl3CAAES3xN.png:large

It takes 99 credits to buy a bundle. It gives you the "finishing touch" for building your rooms with the BC!

[Sandoo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ8xLl3CAAES3xN.png:large

It takes 99 credits to buy a bundle. It gives you the "finishing touch" for building your rooms with the BC!

Aside from showing off your access to the sandbox hotel what are you trying to say in this post?

[compositeLegend]

When I heard about the rooms being locked after the subscription ends, I assumed the furni was frozen, meaning they could not be moved, but users could still gain access to room.

[e5]

I don't even know if it's just locked to the the public or locked to the owner of the room too
When I heard about the rooms being locked after the subscription ends, I assumed the furni was frozen, meaning they could not be moved, but users could still gain access to room.

[Yawn]

well its obv gonna be locked to every1 including the owner

they arent going to let u continue to enjoy the room which u built with the privilege of room builder when u no longer have a room builder subscription. if they did u could build a load of rooms with the unlimited furni in the 1st month and never subscribe again but have loads of ready made rooms

[e5]

I guess you're right but also it's kind of not much use when only you can see it... I guess with my rooms now i'm the only ones that see it anyway lol
well its obv gonna be locked to every1 including the owner

they arent going to let u continue to enjoy the room which u built with the privilege of room builder when u no longer have a room builder subscription. if they did u could build a load of rooms with the unlimited furni in the 1st month and never subscribe again but have loads of ready made rooms

[Reality]

Seems good :)

[CaptiveScope]

I really hope Builder Mode becomes a thing. I don't even care about the cost of the subscription.

[GoldenMerc]

Wonder what the price is going to be per month

[Nick]

Its out now. You get a free trial atm.

[Hidden]

the furni available is 90% junk. barely anything there lol

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They should just make themes ONLY available in builder mode, that will show them.

[Nick]

the furni available is 90% junk. barely anything there lol

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They should just make themes ONLY available in builder mode, that will show them.

Hence why the christmas range furni is only available?

[Kardan]

$10.99 per month - pretty expensive if you ask me...

Not enough furniture ranges on offer... And no good wired.

[Bankai90]

Another solution which makes habbo becomes more awesome! :D

[Martin]

It mentions something about 'buying out' out room, what does that mean and where is the button for it?

[zombies]

It mentions something about 'buying out' out room, what does that mean and where is the button for it?

probably buying all the furni at the catalogue price and making them yours.

[JaiHo]

Urgh so they just completely ignored the feedback which users gave about the builders club and just went ahead with it anyway

[Michael]

Actually alright, much better than I'd expected. I would only buy it if I could create my own room layouts though.

[JaiHo]

Talking to powertoo over IM asking if they just completely ignored the feedback given by users and she said

"how do you know it was overwhelmingly negative.. it really wasn't jaiho most ppl welcomed the idea at the right price etc"

This might be the case but really the majority of people I spoke didn't like the idea (I mabye had two people on my whole list who liked the idea) and also I did mention to powertoo that the poll didn't really give an option for a negative response the questions were based on the assumption that it would go ahead reagardless. Anyway it's done now I hope it works out for them but I feel that this will prove to be a bad idea in the long run.

Update from powertoo: "You got your points across well Jaiho, and I know the biggest concern was that it would affect trading badly.. there'll be no way to buy this with coins, and the price is arranged in a way that lots of habbos will still want to buy from furni shops etc."

[Michael]

I hope they find a better place for the warehouse icon, but I guess the new UI is soon anyway.

[Tyrell]

Campaign furni will only be available to Builders Club members during campaign times

i c u habbo

i c u

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it would go ahead reagardless.


last time i heard, it was that when they did the poll they had already added it to beta or something like that

[jorsian]

I don't think this will have an effect on trade values as long as Habbo remains true to its original promise not to release rare and campaign furni all at once. I can't see people being too excited over this assortment of furniture except noobs, who probably don't understand the difference between good and bad furni. I do think WIRED should be available in the Builder's catalogue simply because it's so useful and most times it's annoying having to buy large quantities of it. Also, it could make for some very interesting Wired creations.

Sometimes with projects like these, Habbo loses sight of its original intentions and begins making choices that favour quick profit over long-term userbase happiness. Releasing rares into the builders catalogue would be one of these choices.

[Kardan]

I don't think this will have an effect on trade values as long as Habbo remains true to its original promise not to release rare and campaign furni all at once. I can't see people being too excited over this assortment of furniture except noobs, who probably don't understand the difference between good and bad furni. I do think WIRED should be available in the Builder's catalogue simply because it's so useful and most times it's annoying having to buy large quantities of it. Also, it could make for some very interesting Wired creations.

Sometimes with projects like these, Habbo loses sight of its original intentions and begins making choices that favour quick profit over long-term userbase happiness. Releasing rares into the builders catalogue would be one of these choices.

It will hit trade prices. Habbo have said that campaign furniture will only be put into the builders club and not for sale in the normal catalogue. Essentially meaning that campaign furniture won't be released for sale again, so prices will go up.

[Michael]

It will hit trade prices. Habbo have said that campaign furniture will only be put into the builders club and not for sale in the normal catalogue. Essentially meaning that campaign furniture won't be released for sale again, so prices will go up.

It doesn't say that anywhere it's Habbos poor use of words, I'd think that campaign furniture will only be in the builders club shop during campaigns and will be removed after (and will continue as normal in regular shop)


Campaign furni will only be available to Builders Club members during campaign times.

[jorsian]

It will hit trade prices. Habbo have said that campaign furniture will only be put into the builders club and not for sale in the normal catalogue. Essentially meaning that campaign furniture won't be released for sale again, so prices will go up.
I don't know where you read that, but it's certainly not the case. What I took from the article was that campaign furni would only be released into the Builder's Catalogue when it is in the regular catalogue.

[Kardan]

I don't know where you read that, but it's certainly not the case. What I took from the article was that campaign furni would only be released into the Builder's Catalogue when it is in the regular catalogue.

Can read both ways actually, your way does sound more plausible.

[TheDoctor.]

I have to say I love that they added this. Means I can finally build a massive room and not worry about spending crazy amounts. I wish we could add more that 1,000 furni though.

[Lingo10]

I have to say I love that they added this. Means I can finally build a massive room and not worry about spending crazy amounts. I wish we could add more that 1,000 furni though.

More than 1,000 is a dream. <3

[Plebings]

at the moment it doesn't seem appealing, however i'm wondering if it means campaign furni will be removed from rooms once the campaign is over, or if the furni will remain in the room until it is removed by the habbo, not when the furni is removed from catalogue.

i think this could really take off if wired is added to the mix, it would be so easy to build pretty cool mazes and games!

[Samantha]

Not the most appealing thing to me, but I'm sure it will be more interesting to those who have a knack in the field and who enjoy it. 10.99 a month is a bit expensive, especially when other campaigns they had/have are appalling too - Super Saver Subscription being one of them.

[Daltron]

Very interesting to test and use and I can see the potential if they stick to the idea of limited furni lines and not releasing anything that would be abnormal for regular furni users.

I think wired needs to be added into it, I would love to see loads of new wired mazes to occupy my time with. They seem to be becoming less and less popular I assume because of the limitations of the current pricing of wired.

[Daltron]

I have to say I love that they added this. Means I can finally build a massive room and not worry about spending crazy amounts. I wish we could add more that 1,000 furni though.

Maybe the could introduce packages. So say for the current price you get 1,000 furni. For an extra $2 they could bundle wired in and an extra 500 furni and for another $2 they could bundle more furni lines from the regular catalogue and another 1,000 furni. Just a thought.

[Plebings]

it says each month you stick on the subscription the limit will increase by 250 right? hope they don't offer "additional content", eurgh.

[Beth.]

not something i'd ever use but it's good for people who do want to use it

[e5]

How much is $10.99USD a month then in GBP

[MKR&*42]

How much is $10.99USD a month then in GBP

6.73 British Pound Sterling

[Lanyon]

Builder mode is being tested by staff on the sandbox habbo (sandbox.habbo.com)

http://oi40.tinypic.com/vj3pj.jpg

http://puhekupla.com/en/news/2547


This is a retro correct? Illegal?

[Michael]

This is a retro correct? Illegal?

Incorrect, it's Habbo's official sandbox. Nope it isn't illegal to play on the official Habbo sandbox..

[e5]

I'm annoyed that as a full member, you can't get drop in group (was trying my own!!) it's very limited furni. Bit a rip off currently for what you get. defo needs updating.

[Tyrell]

yeah, there's hardly any good furni there rn

should i buy now to gain more a higher limit over time as i wait for them to add new furni or just not bother until they do add mroe furni

[e5]

I'm on it, but i wish you got a builders badge or summat for the price too! hopefully this gets better with time.

[Scotland]

New achievements uploaded for builders club ----- found by @habbocomnews
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