HxHD Manager

[sex]

Will you apply?
Who do you think should get it??
Who do you think shouldn't?

Any thoughts on this???


wixard; for manager.

[Matt]

PointlessThread/10

OT: Nick; should apply

[wixard]

I will definitely be applying

big changes will be made if I get it

[CrazyLemurs]

I'll be applying cos
ukno
err
senior already

No idea who will actually get it, though. Depends on whether good candidates bother to apply, really.

[GoldenMerc]

Am gonna apply,

IF I WIN THE ELECTION TO BECOME NEXT HXHD THE CHANGES IM GOING TO MAKE

A dedicated day to hate on Comity
Scripting in the room
A christmas theme with thrones and petals and all warmy and homey
A pet pig will be added, His name will be ruffles.

Thanks for your time.

[Mr-Trainor]

I will not be applying but good luck to everyone who does :P!

[Nick]

Probably not mdport.; ;l Goodluck to whoever does though!

[Yawn]

i rly hope habbox makes the right decision

[-:Undertaker:-]

It's an interesting idea doing it like this.

The more Habbo-based the new manager, the better. That's the kind of person we need.

[Empired]

It's an interesting idea doing it like this.

The more Habbo-based the new manager, the better. That's the kind of person we need.
This is absolutely right.

We need a manager who uses the forum and​ Habbo regularly.

[despect]

Best of luck to anyone who applies, i won't be because HabboxLive is the place to be ;).

[Grig]

Best of luck to anyone who applies, i won't be because HabboxLive is the place to be ;).

You know you want to ;). HxHD addict 2k9.

Yeh, good luck to whoever decides to apply :)!

[Smurfed-]

Good luck to those who apply, it's certainly an interesting way of doing it!

[Cerys]

I was gonna apply buuuuut I get the slight feeling that there could be a huge kick off by a number of forum members on the slight 0.01% chance that I actually get it

amiright

;)

goodluck to everyone though, I'm sure there's a number of great candidates out there for it!!

[Jazz]

I won't be applying, because I have no interest.

I don't know really, I don't think any of the current hxhd staff are really management material (sorry) maybe Alex will be a good asst, but senior -> management is hard.

I think Martin/Alex/James/Grig would suit very well, or ex community management.

[Succubus]

not applying but good luck to all those who do!!

i knew CrazyLemurs; would apply lol.

[CrazyLemurs]

coffs Doctor; finish your fanfic
Also of course I'm applying because I feel I can do it. If I wasn't staff I'd still be applying lmao; it's something I feel I could challenge myself with and eventually, succeed

[lawrawrrr]

I think the thing with HxHD is it's a big task, and it needs a massive kick up the bum and a lot of changes. I really think that an outsider, someone who hasn't worked in HxHD and can see it's not exactly the most successful thing atm, would be the best person for the role. If I wasn't Content Manager I'd consider it, but I'm looking forward to seeing who gets the job and working with them :)

[Samantha]

I've applied, as I stated some pretty good reasons why with past experience. I only applied as well as being News Manager though due to how small news actually is and how limited I currently am in some aspects. However, I don't believe I will get it as I'm sure it's had a lot of interest. I could be wrong, but instead of abolishing news, I'm sure news could have been opened too if I hadn't taken on the role again.

Saying that, I wish everyone the best of luck in applying!

[Inseriousity.]

ARGHHHHHHHHHHH!
How many times did I have to hear managers say they were "limited", you are limited only by laziness and lack of imagination. Seems to be some confusion that to be creative and push boundaries, you need to be manager of a community department. No, no, no. If I was AGM still, I'd have rejected you for that attitude alone!

Good luck to anyone applying. There is bucketloads of potential in the department and it needs someone with a creative spark to get it out of its stalemate.

[Kardan]

I'm not going to apply, but if I had to choose who to hire, I would definitely pick someone that isn't even staff at the moment. You want a different spin on things, and you want someone that will be committed. Good luck all!

[Samantha]

ARGHHHHHHHHHHH!
How many times did I have to hear managers say they were "limited", you are limited only by laziness and lack of imagination. Seems to be some confusion that to be creative and push boundaries, you need to be manager of a community department. No, no, no. If I was AGM still, I'd have rejected you for that attitude alone!

Good luck to anyone applying. There is bucketloads of potential in the department and it needs someone with a creative spark to get it out of its stalemate.

Lmao what, I have tried to push news to the community and I did the same with Rare Values (and you witnessed this by allowing me to do some things). It failed, but at least I TRIED unlike some. You've got to remember, to attempt to do something different, you need to try and get that community behind it which I did. However, it didn't stay although I religiously did things each week to broaden out to the community. At the moment, I am limited and I don't think you will realise unless you can see the news/management forum. You don't know what I've been attempting though.

Frankly, if you are a community department you are limited to content and vice versa - if I wanted to do an event on Habbo each week, I'd have to ensure I could do it, ensure no one else was doing an event at that time and advertise so much to do so. It's like if events wanted to do a forum event, they wanted to change threads, hide things, they could well be limited in that region as communication is key.

I am limited currently, and actually, being a manager of a community department would help as it would be a lot easier to advertise as that community is already there and my ideas can be heard. I included in my application the events I would do if I was still in the events department, yes I could possibly do them in news too, but like I said the planning would have to be done for ages before and atm the priority is getting news on the site.

Also, I didn't say I was limited in the application. I am not limited by laziness lmao, I do so much for the department already and the departments I am already in which Skynus; and any of my managers can verify. I was actually rather pleased how much faith Tom had put in me and my initiative and ideas are in the management forum for news, which Tom is excited about.

I have waffled on, but unless you can see what I'm doing you really don't know what I've planned. In fairness, I would love to manage a community department, something different than Rare Values previously instead of a department with hardly any staff as time and time again I have had to pick News and Rare Values out of the **** because those managers before me? Yeah they were the ones lacking imagination and were lazy, but not me.

I've repeated myself and waffled on so much in that, but I think I have got my point across as fair bit. However, if I was lazy and unimaginative I would agree with you!

[Shar]

Anyone who's dedicated and just straight to the point when it comes to management should get the role. Someone who actually spends time in HxHD and knows about both habbo and habbox and has some ideas to bring hxhd out of whatever ditch it currently is in.
I agree on recruiting someone who isn't staff at the moment as they may have some fresh ideas.

[Kardan]

I've applied, as I stated some pretty good reasons why with past experience. I only applied as well as being News Manager though due to how small news actually is and how limited I currently am in some aspects. However, I don't believe I will get it as I'm sure it's had a lot of interest. I could be wrong, but instead of abolishing news, I'm sure news could have been opened too if I hadn't taken on the role again.

Saying that, I wish everyone the best of luck in applying!

ninja'ed

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Lmao what, I have tried to push news to the community and I did the same with Rare Values (and you witnessed this by allowing me to do some things). It failed, but at least I TRIED unlike some. You've got to remember, to attempt to do something different, you need to try and get that community behind it which I did. However, it didn't stay although I religiously did things each week to broaden out to the community. At the moment, I am limited and I don't think you will realise unless you can see the news/management forum. You don't know what I've been attempting though.

Frankly, if you are a community department you are limited to content and vice versa - if I wanted to do an event on Habbo each week, I'd have to ensure I could do it, ensure no one else was doing an event at that time and advertise so much to do so. It's like if events wanted to do a forum event, they wanted to change threads, hide things, they could well be limited in that region as communication is key.

I am limited currently, and actually, being a manager of a community department would help as it would be a lot easier to advertise as that community is already there and my ideas can be heard. I included in my application the events I would do if I was still in the events department, yes I could possibly do them in news too, but like I said the planning would have to be done for ages before and atm the priority is getting news on the site.

Also, I didn't say I was limited in the application. I am not limited by laziness lmao, I do so much for the department already and the departments I am already in which Skynus; and any of my managers can verify. I was actually rather pleased how much faith Tom had put in me and my initiative and ideas are in the management forum for news, which Tom is excited about.

I have waffled on, but unless you can see what I'm doing you really don't know what I've planned. In fairness, I would love to manage a community department, something different than Rare Values previously instead of a department with hardly any staff as time and time again I have had to pick News and Rare Values out of the **** because those managers before me? Yeah they were the ones lacking imagination and were lazy, but not me.

I've repeated myself and waffled on so much in that, but I think I have got my point across as fair bit. However, if I was lazy and unimaginative I would agree with you!

Ok, I still don't understand how you are limited with the news department? Because you have to do planning for events? Doesn't every department have to do that? I'm confused.

[Samantha]

Why are you limited in managing the News department?

I'm not limited in managing the News Department, I'm more limited in broaden it out more to the community. I'm currently on limited activity as my Internet is poor to say the least, I then have members of staff not pulling their weight and soon will be dismissed if it continues. However, due to them not doing what is required I then have to do more and more reports with the help of the single staff member attempting to do the work required. I then have all the admin stuff to deal with which I do behind the scenes. This is how I'm limited to taking it to the community more, not managing as I'm doing rather well for the majority. I hope that got my point across?
Inseriousity.; I do see where you're coming from, and although I am limited (although on different ways to what you believe perhaps), I know I can always do more which is why I valued you as the AGM as you always said that. Sorry if I came off a little too defensive, I honestly didn't mean to as I know what you meant really.

[Empired]

I'm not limited in managing the News Department, I'm more limited in broaden it out more to the community. I'm currently on limited activity as my Internet is poor to say the least, I then have members of staff not pulling their weight and soon will be dismissed if it continues. However, due to them not doing what is required I then have to do more and more reports with the help of the single staff member attempting to do the work required. I then have all the admin stuff to deal with which I do behind the scenes. This is how I'm limited to taking it to the community more, not managing as I'm doing rather well for the majority. I hope that got my point across?
Didn't you just describe the standard duties for a manager of any department?

[Inseriousity.]

If you wanted to do a habbo event, you could easily do one. You pick a time you can do, you say to events management and jade id like to book this time please and there you go, job done. You want to do a forum event, you could easily do one. You choose something to do, you ask forum management or matt to put it all in place, job done. Being competitions manager didn't stop me from pushing boundaries and trying new things that no previous comps management had tried and Matt was always very helpful in placing all my clues and graphics around the forum to ensure it'd all run smoothly. Do something out of the norm and guess what, you get free advertising because it's out of the norm. You can get a forum notice for it because it's out the norm. You can get a HxHD notice for it because it's out of the norm. Do something during a general management event like Christmas or Easter and it just gets lost amidst all the other ideas.

To be fair to Sam here, I was talking more generally and it was just her that triggered my ranting. It seems to be a general attitude amongst some managers to just stick to the same old, same old and never try for anything different. There are those that try their hardest even if the ideas aren't successful in the end and those that don't try at all. I know you try Sam so the laziness bit maybe doesn't apply to you but to just say you're limited is being self-defeating when the supposed limitations that you've just mentioned are actually very simple obstacles to get around.

[CrazyLemurs]

I'm seeing a lot of people saying "someone from outside the department would be good because they have new ideas". That's fair enough, and I certainly feel new ideas are useful, but there's nothing stopping anyone from voicing those ideas in a Feedback thread, or something similar. You don't have to already be running the department to say what you think should change: really big things have changed before because normal forum users have said "we think this would work better" in lots of different areas.
Also, something against that is that somebody new doesn't know how to do anything, because they don't know how the department is structured, how it runs or what projects are currently underway. Someone already in the department can easily adjust to things that aren't majorly different; rather they would be more extended.
But I suppose I'm trying to protect my own interests, as well as those of other HxHD staff members.

[Kardan]

I'm seeing a lot of people saying "someone from outside the department would be good because they have new ideas". That's fair enough, and I certainly feel new ideas are useful, but there's nothing stopping anyone from voicing those ideas in a Feedback thread, or something similar. You don't have to already be running the department to say what you think should change: really big things have changed before because normal forum users have said "we think this would work better" in lots of different areas.
Also, something against that is that somebody new doesn't know how to do anything, because they don't know how the department is structured, how it runs or what projects are currently underway. Someone already in the department can easily adjust to things that aren't majorly different; rather they would be more extended.
But I suppose I'm trying to protect my own interests, as well as those of other HxHD staff members.

I think a good question to ask is why have management allowed anyone to apply for the manager position rather than just help desk? Clearly they feel that a person from the outside *could* do some good.

[CrazyLemurs]

I think a good question to ask is why have management allowed anyone to apply for the manager position rather than just help desk? Clearly they feel that a person from the outside *could* do some good.

I find it much more plausible that they feel everyone inside the department is not up to scratch - this kind of offends me

[Shar]

I don't really know any of the current staff properly but surely if they were suitable for the role external applicants wouldn't be invited to go for it.
CrazyLemurs could that imply that the current staff haven't proved themselves worthy enough and have gotten a bit lazy and not shown their full potential?

[Samantha]

Didn't you just describe the standard duties for a manager of any department?

I don't think so, unless I've worded it that way.

I meant I have to do a lot more than what should be required of any manager, usually the manager can step back from the normal staff roles minimally (which I have only done since being limited), but then when someone hasn't done their minimum or whatever I then fill in that gap - which I can do don't get me wrong, but there's a limit of how much I can split myself with work in real life and my other roles. I would get an assistant, but unfortunately there aren't any candidates currently. Did that sound the same as last time? It's just hard to type it into words I guess :P.

[Empired]

I think a good question to ask is why have management allowed anyone to apply for the manager position rather than just help desk? Clearly they feel that a person from the outside *could* do some good.
I feel like when you're met with a mob of angry forum members all complaining about HxHD you do rather want to use appeasement rather than have a huge row. However, I also don't really see the problem with opening applications up to everyone as just because non-staff can apply doesn't necessarily mean they'll get it (and vice versa).

[Samantha]

I find it much more plausible that they feel everyone inside the department is not up to scratch - this kind of offends me

I was the one who got chosen instead of you in news, I know the reason why they didn't pick you, but you've improved so much since then. I think it could also be a factor of, if one staff member goes up internally then that staff member may need to be replaced quickly. I don't think the Help Desk would be fair if only one senior was on the team. However, if they open them externally they do get someone new, an additional person - there's nothing stopping an ex manager coming back though. You never know they might have just done it externally as it's better than picking either say you or Cassie as it may not appear fair on the other.

[sexpot]

I find it much more plausible that they feel everyone inside the department is not up to scratch - this kind of offends me

does it offend you because now your chance at manager has gone down? lol. you should be happy that they're opening it up to more people, no one in HxHD is really up for the job

[Kardan]

I feel like when you're met with a mob of angry forum members all complaining about HxHD you do rather want to use appeasement rather than have a huge row. However, I also don't really see the problem with opening applications up to everyone as just because non-staff can apply doesn't necessarily mean they'll get it (and vice versa).

No, if an application is way above all the others in terms of quality, and it's from a help desk staff member, it should still be picked - it's just that this option also benefits all help desk staff, whereas usually the new manager would usually be the assistant or one of the senior members, not just an ordinary staff member.

For me, people say that they are 'limited' and bounded by things already in place. If someone new was brought in, yes, they wouldn't know about certain things, but why do those certain things have to remain? Maybe that's what is causing issues with certain departments? I just think someone new could make some changes that other people don't usually think about, simply because other people were already used to how the department was being ran.

[CrazyLemurs]

I was the one who got chosen instead of you in news, I know the reason why they didn't pick you, but you've improved so much since then. I think it could also be a factor of, if one staff member goes up internally then that staff member may need to be replaced quickly. I don't think the Help Desk would be fair if only one senior was on the team. However, if they open them externally they do get someone new, an additional person - there's nothing stopping an ex manager coming back though. You never know they might have just done it externally as it's better than picking either say you or Cassie as it may not appear fair on the other.

I can't really see why they would have done that in our situation and then decided not to do it with me and Cassie: clearly they weren't bothered about feelings before and now they happen to be? I'm sure if they'd have asked me and Cassie how we'd feel, both of us could be mature enough to accept the other was more suitable and not hold a grudge.

[Empired]

Just out of interest, what happens if two or three fantastic applications are sent in? Just because they've applied for manager doesn't mean they have to get that position does it? I mean like, if their application is the second best, might they be offered the position of assistant or senior?

[Samantha]

No, if an application is way above all the others in terms of quality, and it's from a help desk staff member, it should still be picked - it's just that this option also benefits all help desk staff, whereas usually the new manager would usually be the assistant or one of the senior members, not just an ordinary staff member.

For me, people say that they are 'limited' and bounded by things already in place. If someone new was brought in, yes, they wouldn't know about certain things, but why do those certain things have to remain? Maybe that's what is causing issues with certain departments? I just think someone new could make some changes that other people don't usually think about, simply because other people were already used to how the department was being ran.

I sort of agree with this - someone could have been in the department for so long and because of that, don't want to change as it's normal for the department to act in this or that way. However, a new direction could be so fresh for the help desk it really could.

[Succubus]

coffs @Doctor (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=90418); finish your fanfic
Also of course I'm applying because I feel I can do it. If I wasn't staff I'd still be applying lmao; it's something I feel I could challenge myself with and eventually, succeed

screw you

lmao well good luck to you!!

[Foregetfuhl]

Regardless as to whether or not the person is the department the person who we feel can provide the best possible outcome for the department will be the one to get the job.

[Rachel]

I applied but I wish you the best of luck to everyone who applied :)


It's okay if I don't get chosen, I applied and showed my interest in the role and that is it. I am happy I did express it so they know I want to do changes in the department for the good. I am sure there are people who applied has more experience than me and I understand the situation. I gave my best shot at it like everyone else :)

[-Moniquee.]

I really hope habbox makes the right decision. The help desk is an area which needs a bit of attention. The manager should be willing to put in a lot of time and effort in.
Good luck to everyone applying :)

[Kyle]

Good decision, great to see suggestions are being built on. I'm really interested to see what some members have to offer and what faces start to come out of the woodwork in the hxhd as a result of this opening. Lets see who's showing interest just because of the power and who's showing interest because they're genuinely concerned about the department. You might as well ask whether applicants want to become normal hxhd staff were their management apps unsuccessful, you need more staff :)

[FlyingJesus]

I'm sure if they'd have asked me and Cassie how we'd feel, both of us could be mature enough to accept the other was more suitable and not hold a grudge.

I believe it's less a problem of thinking that one of you would hold a grudge over the other being found suitable and more to do with the fact that neither of you are...


Personally not applying as I'm holding out for events manager to open up ;)

[CrazyLemurs]

I hardly consider that a fact, tom. That's the way you're seeing things, and it's the way I'm sure many others may see it. That does not mean that neither of us would be able to be in charge, if the situation arose.
I should verily enjoy seeing either myself or Cassie applying and succeeding, to at least show someone the bad brush they're painting us with should be thrown away

[FlyingJesus]

ps your earlier post heavily suggests that you would absolutely hold a grudge against an incoming manager as you clearly feel entitled to the role just by virtue of having a current position in the department

[Kardan]

I hardly consider that a fact, tom. That's the way you're seeing things, and it's the way I'm sure many others may see it. That does not mean that neither of us would be able to be in charge, if the situation arose.
I should verily enjoy seeing either myself or Cassie applying and succeeding, to at least show someone the bad brush they're painting us with should be thrown away

Well that's a completely different thing. I could be in charge if Habbox wanted me too, but it doesn't mean I'm capable of doing it.

[AgnesIO]

I'll be applying cos
ukno
err
senior already

No idea who will actually get it, though. Depends on whether good candidates bother to apply, really.


The fact you are senior already sort of suggests you (and any other seniors) may not be what they are looking for. That isn't mean to be rude, but you do have to ask why they have made the applications public.

Am gonna apply,

IF I WIN THE ELECTION TO BECOME NEXT HXHD THE CHANGES IM GOING TO MAKE

A dedicated day to hate on Comity
Scripting in the room
A christmas theme with thrones and petals and all warmy and homey
A pet pig will be added, His name will be ruffles.

Thanks for your time.

kk, Ross for the new *REMOVED* manager, wait, I mean Habbox.. we need thrones and riches; "newbs" love that sort of thing.


It's an interesting idea doing it like this.

The more Habbo-based the new manager, the better. That's the kind of person we need.

Agreed, need a manager who is active on the forum too though; and one that has ideas. We don't just need someone who can run it; we need someone who can make it exceptionally popular.


I've applied, as I stated some pretty good reasons why with past experience.

Shock.


I'm not limited in managing the News Department, I'm more limited in broaden it out more to the community. I'm currently on limited activity as my Internet is poor to say the least, I then have members of staff not pulling their weight and soon will be dismissed if it continues. However, due to them not doing what is required I then have to do more and more reports with the help of the single staff member attempting to do the work required. I then have all the admin stuff to deal with which I do behind the scenes. This is how I'm limited to taking it to the community more, not managing as I'm doing rather well for the majority. I hope that got my point across?
@Inseriousity. (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=26409); I do see where you're coming from, and although I am limited (although on different ways to what you believe perhaps), I know I can always do more which is why I valued you as the AGM as you always said that. Sorry if I came off a little too defensive, I honestly didn't mean to as I know what you meant really.

Surely if you are on limited-activity due to poor internet, this is something that is not short term? Internet doesn't just speed up overnight. If so, what makes you capable of being HxHD manager? A job that requires someone on full-activity from the off, not just "limited". I am not saying you shouldn't get the job, as personally it really doesn't affect me who gets it - just think this post is a little contradictory.


I can't really see why they would have done that in our situation and then decided not to do it with me and Cassie: clearly they weren't bothered about feelings before and now they happen to be? I'm sure if they'd have asked me and Cassie how we'd feel, both of us could be mature enough to accept the other was more suitable and not hold a grudge.

To be fair, I don't think feelings are really important in terms of job applications. In fact, I'd go as far as saying they are irrelevant.


I believe it's less a problem of thinking that one of you would hold a grudge over the other being found suitable and more to do with the fact that neither of you are...


Personally not applying as I'm holding out for events manager to open up ;)

Same here, although I was hoping more for an (A)GM role, don't really think my ego would fit inside some standard manager role ;l

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Personally, I think it is essential that HxHD brings someone in with original ideas to make the help desk popular, and I mean really popular. Sure, they don't need to all work - but they need enough to keep going until they find something that works. They don't just need to be able to continue what is already there; it needs to be refreshed completely in this respect.

Good luck to everyone who applies, either way.

Edited by Nick (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't avoid the forum filter.

[Samantha]

The fact you are senior already sort of suggests you (and any other seniors) may not be what they are looking for. That isn't mean to be rude, but you do have to ask why they have made the applications public.


kk, Ross for the new BMxD manager, wait, I mean Habbox.. we need thrones and riches; "newbs" love that sort of thing.



Agreed, need a manager who is active on the forum too though; and one that has ideas. We don't just need someone who can run it; we need someone who can make it exceptionally popular.



Shock.



Surely if you are on limited-activity due to poor internet, this is something that is not short term? Internet doesn't just speed up overnight. If so, what makes you capable of being HxHD manager? A job that requires someone on full-activity from the off, not just "limited". I am not saying you shouldn't get the job, as personally it really doesn't affect me who gets it - just think this post is a little contradictory.



To be fair, I don't think feelings are really important in terms of job applications. In fact, I'd go as far as saying they are irrelevant.



Same here, although I was hoping more for an (A)GM role, don't really think my ego would fit inside some standard manager role ;l

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Personally, I think it is essential that HxHD brings someone in with original ideas to make the help desk popular, and I mean really popular. Sure, they don't need to all work - but they need enough to keep going until they find something that works. They don't just need to be able to continue what is already there; it needs to be refreshed completely in this respect.

Good luck to everyone who applies, either way.

Oh no, it's just broken at the moment. It's working currently, but goes off usually on the hour for a few minutes (it was down all night yesterday). It will be fixed by Wednesday.

[Shar]

I hardly consider that a fact, tom. That's the way you're seeing things, and it's the way I'm sure many others may see it. That does not mean that neither of us would be able to be in charge, if the situation arose.
I should verily enjoy seeing either myself or Cassie applying and succeeding, to at least show someone the bad brush they're painting us with should be thrown away
Instead of going on on and on about how you're so suitable for the job etc just send in your application and wait it out. You're not really doing yourself any favours. I don't mean to sound rude but it may be better for you to just step back for a minute.

[CrazyLemurs]

Then you are interpreting what I've said in the wrong way. I found it a little uncomfortable that in the past managers have been selected either from previous managers or the most senior member currently in the department and now they've switched that up to do something pretty different.
Although I can see this is going to turn into a repetition of "well they didn't pick you or cassie so obviously you aren't good enough", so I'd like to ask people do not continue with this point.

[Kyle]

I hardly consider that a fact, tom. That's the way you're seeing things, and it's the way I'm sure many others may see it. That does not mean that neither of us would be able to be in charge, if the situation arose.
I should verily enjoy seeing either myself or Cassie applying and succeeding, to at least show someone the bad brush they're painting us with should be thrown away
The point of applying should not be to prove people wrong but to demonstrate that you genuinely care about hxhd and know that you can change its future. I don't wish to add any fuel to the fire but my experience of many staff members, past and present, is that they will only do the bare minimum and not even visit the desk after their time is done!

Good luck though :)

[FlyingJesus]

I found it a little uncomfortable that in the past managers have been selected either from previous managers or the most senior member currently in the department and now they've switched that up to do something pretty different.

It's a change that should have been done many generations ago and could have helped avoid some real disappointments. I'm fairly sure that the decision was made based on upper management finally learning from past mistakes rather than a direct attack on you - you may end up with the position still if you prove to be the best candidate, but internal promotions have thus far not always yielded the best results so it makes perfect sense to open up applications to a wider field

[Grig]

I am focusing on HxL 100%, that's why I have no other role on Habbox and that's what I will continue. To say, oh I'm going to apply because news is small or there's not much to do is false. News is far from perfect and to divert your attention from it to another managerial role will not help it be perfect. There are still months and months of changes and stuff needed for news and that requires a lot of hard work. Unless, you are willing to be online extremely often, I don't see how you'll fit both in.

Unless a manager's department is doing extremely well, I don't see how anyone could make an argument of managing because of how small their department is. Ideally, news shouldn't be as small either :p.

[despect]

I can already tell there's going to be people saying "oh well i've been in the department for this long" or "oh well i'm a senior" it really doesn't matter because they will make the decision based on the application, I think having someone from outside of the department is great because then they will know what it's like to look at how the help desk is run on the outside rather than actually being staff, not sure if that makes sense or not haha? I'm really looking forward to seeing who actually gets the opportunity.

That's not me saying i'd be disappointed at all if it was any of the help desk staff :P.

Again, good luck whoever gets the position i'm confident the right decision will be made :).

[Inseriousity.]

Internal decisions don't always yield the best results because they do not show the potential they promised. General management can't accommodate every factor in someone's future so I don't think it's fair to dismiss that method of doing things just because of that. It should ultimately be the first port of call to see if there is anyone internally who can take the position and if not then open it to a wider field of candidates. It is not necessarily the case that a manager hired internally will stick to the status quo while someone hired externally will change everything. It's entirely possible for example that someone internally is aware of what needs improvement and so can adjust accordingly while someone hired externally needs to get settled in first and could 'turn native' and become comfortable with the systems he/she inherited. Just an alternative scenario to consider (not saying that this will come true for everyone who is an external candidate btw).

[Lewis]

I like reading these... Not really arguments or debates, I can't think of a word for it. But yeah.

Has Habbox ever done joint-manager roles? Instead of an assistant and a manager?

[lawrawrrr]

I like reading these... Not really arguments or debates, I can't think of a word for it. But yeah.

Has Habbox ever done joint-manager roles? Instead of an assistant and a manager?

James and Grig are currently joint-manager, but Assistant & Manager basically do the same job from what I've experienced (comps, news & content)

[Shar]

I like reading these... Not really arguments or debates, I can't think of a word for it. But yeah.

Has Habbox ever done joint-manager roles? Instead of an assistant and a manager?
Grig and James are joint managers at the moment. I don't know if there has been any others. The role of Manager and Assistant are pretty much the same.

[Samantha]

I am focusing on HxL 100%, that's why I have no other role on Habbox and that's what I will continue. To say, oh I'm going to apply because news is small or there's not much to do is false. News is far from perfect and to divert your attention from it to another managerial role will not help it be perfect. There are still months and months of changes and stuff needed for news and that requires a lot of hard work. Unless, you are willing to be online extremely often, I don't see how you'll fit both in.

Unless a manager's department is doing extremely well, I don't see how anyone could make an argument of managing because of how small their department is. Ideally, news shouldn't be as small either :p.

I believe that actually helping manage another department can also work wonders for News too (like with any department). News has never been and will never be perfect like with all departments, but we can try make it seem perfect, which I am doing. It's unfortunate that I've had to take some time off recently as it's set back what I was trying to do, but since my return changes have been made and they're continuing. I didn't apply just because News is small, I applied for a variety of reasons - also, unless a manager's department is doing extremely well they shouldn't apply? So, no current managers will be applying then as we can always improve and fansites aren't doing as well as they used to unfortunately :(. Also, News shouldn't be small? Fine then, but it's not my fault I advertise and no one applies, you full well know why News is in such a state lmao. However, I do see what you mean, but I guess our minds work differently so I appreciate what you're saying.

[Empired]

I like reading these... Not really arguments or debates, I can't think of a word for it. But yeah.

Has Habbox ever done joint-manager roles? Instead of an assistant and a manager?
I would call these opinions, lol. It's probably one of the first feedback threads to reach 5 pages and not have much polite rudeness yet.

I think it would be much better to have one GMT & one International manager for HxHD than asst. and manager. Although, as Laura said, they are basically the same thing anyway.

[Samantha]

I would call these opinions, lol. It's probably one of the first feedback threads to reach 5 pages and not have much polite rudeness yet.

I think it would be much better to have one GMT & one International manager for HxHD than asst. and manager. Although, as Laura said, they are basically the same thing anyway.

This, also I do hope you have applied.

[lawrawrrr]

I would call these opinions, lol. It's probably one of the first feedback threads to reach 5 pages and not have much polite rudeness yet.

I think it would be much better to have one GMT & one International manager for HxHD than asst. and manager. Although, as Laura said, they are basically the same thing anyway.

Oh god I agree with this - I think that all the community roles (okay, the habbo-based departments) could do with a international and gmt manager, it's the only real way to promote jobs to that timezone, which will benefit the entirety of habbox!!

[Empired]

Oh god I agree with this - I think that all the community roles (okay, the habbo-based departments) could do with a international and gmt manager, it's the only real way to promote jobs to that timezone, which will benefit the entirety of habbox!!
Plus I know HxHD has a lot of trouble with staff reports because the manager hasn't seen someone all month due to timezone differences so they just get a "I'm sure you're doing well keep up the great work". That kind of sucks because you could be working really hard and never get any recognition for it.. :rolleyes:

[Grig]

I believe that actually helping manage another department can also work wonders for News too (like with any department). News has never been and will never be perfect like with all departments, but we can try make it seem perfect, which I am doing. It's unfortunate that I've had to take some time off recently as it's set back what I was trying to do, but since my return changes have been made and they're continuing. I didn't apply just because News is small, I applied for a variety of reasons - also, unless a manager's department is doing extremely well they shouldn't apply? So, no current managers will be applying then as we can always improve and fansites aren't doing as well as they used to unfortunately :(. Also, News shouldn't be small? Fine then, but it's not my fault I advertise and no one applies, you full well know why News is in such a state lmao. However, I do see what you mean, but I guess our minds work differently so I appreciate what you're saying.

There is a clear difference between departments doing well and constant improvements. Departments that do well could always have improvements because no one is a perfectionist, but when a department is really struggling and one of the reasons for you to apply to another job is due to that said department being small, simply makes no sense.

Well the two general factors I know of news being in such a state is poor management in the past and a lack of willpower to make some radical changes.


I would call these opinions, lol. It's probably one of the first feedback threads to reach 5 pages and not have much polite rudeness yet.

I think it would be much better to have one GMT & one International manager for HxHD than asst. and manager. Although, as Laura said, they are basically the same thing anyway.

The last two managers were international and there was minimal improvement of international times. Unless they have the willpower or a specific role to improve international times, it could be very limiting.

[Empired]

The last two managers were international and there was minimal improvement of international times. Unless they have the willpower or a specific role to improve international times, it could be very limiting.
But then I think the problem was reversed and GMT staff didn't get enough recognition. I know one of the reasons Erin resigned is because she was upset by never seeing problems/complaints in time due to being asleep when they occurred. Having two managers from completely different timezones mean that problems will be dealt with so much faster. Plus, as I've already said, reports are very difficult to write if you never see the person you're writing the report for.

[AgnesIO]

Personally, I would question ANY users ability to manage more than one department, and hold other voluntary roles too. Just thinking about my own life, and if that was ever possible...

[Sloths]

I've applied and I realised that my timezone would probably mean that I wont get it but oh well I've expressed my interest. I've stated some views and ideas of my own to the dept and having just recently rejoined I've noticed a few things that should be changed behind the scenes as well as the things out there for everyone to see. A few people have been 'attacked' for applying and not being able to step up to the job but some people can when the time is there. I will say that Erin for example I was her senior when she trialed she was incredibly quiet and sweet and she stood up and ran the desk as great as she could from where she was. There are ways to work around the point below by both international and GMT managers you just have to put in the effort and be a manager.


Plus I know HxHD has a lot of trouble with staff reports because the manager hasn't seen someone all month due to timezone differences so they just get a "I'm sure you're doing well keep up the great work". That kind of sucks because you could be working really hard and never get any recognition for it.. :rolleyes:

giggles at my point ^^^ this exactly omg the amount of times I've had that

[Aiden]

I think it's a good way for Habbox to find a senior staff member. I hope they aren't current staff but someone completely new. :)

[Cassiieee]

Goodluck to everyone whom applied.

[lawrawrrr]

I think it would be great to have a GMT and a non GMT manager tbh - like HxL, it would really help the department (as long as they're hard working and actually promote international staff + support) and habbox as a whole!!


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[Mark]

I agree with the time zone managers. Whoever gets the roles I hope they change the department completely. Unfortunately I won't be applying however best of luck to the rest!

[Mr-Trainor]

Just out of interest, what happens if two or three fantastic applications are sent in? Just because they've applied for manager doesn't mean they have to get that position does it? I mean like, if their application is the second best, might they be offered the position of assistant or senior?
I personally don't think hiring a new manager and assistant at the same time would be a good idea, as both may have applied with different ideas of how to run the department. Hiring to over roles such as senior could be good though, but should be left to the chosen manager imo :).

I like reading these... Not really arguments or debates, I can't think of a word for it. But yeah.

Has Habbox ever done joint-manager roles? Instead of an assistant and a manager?
Assistant and manager is essentially, in some cases, the same thing but maintains clear leadership. If you have two managers you don't know who's actually in charge and who makes the final decisions :P?

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I have waffled on, but unless you can see what I'm doing you really don't know what I've planned. In fairness, I would love to manage a community department, something different than Rare Values previously instead of a department with hardly any staff as time and time again I have had to pick News and Rare Values out of the **** because those managers before me? Yeah they were the ones lacking imagination and were lazy, but not me.
So are you saying I was lazy and unimaginative :(?

[Samantha]

I personally don't think hiring a new manager and assistant at the same time would be a good idea, as both may have applied with different ideas of how to run the department. Hiring to over roles such as senior could be good though, but should be left to the chosen manager imo :).

Assistant and manager is essentially, in some cases, the same thing but maintains clear leadership. If you have two managers you don't know who's actually in charge and who makes the final decisions :P?

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So are you saying I was lazy and unimaginative :(?

I said Rare Values previously, but you've been a few years previously and after me. I've witnessed you do events in whatever departments, so no not you it was more of a general thing :P.

[Foregetfuhl]

I think something that has come of a benefit to HabboxLive in the past couple months is someone in International actually striving to BETTER it, not only does HabboxLive have an int. manager but even international based teams and Head DJs. Providing someone shows their face from an International time zone who wants to do that and physically can do that, then it would be something I would seriously want to discuss with Matt. I genuinely believe that community based departments (HxHD, HxL and Events) would all benefit from senior members of staff from different timezones. It has done wonders for other Habbo fansites and I believe it would for us as well. It's a matter though as Grig kind of highlighted that they can be from the International time zone but if they don't push the boat out for that then it can become incredibly irritating and it would be stagnated into the way it currently is now.

[despect]

I think something that has come of a benefit to HabboxLive in the past couple months is someone in International actually striving to BETTER it, not only does HabboxLive have an int. manager but even international based teams and Head DJs. Providing someone shows their face from an International time zone who wants to do that and physically can do that, then it would be something I would seriously want to discuss with Matt. I genuinely believe that community based departments (HxHD, HxL and Events) would all benefit from senior members of staff from different timezones. It has done wonders for other Habbo fansites and I believe it would for us as well. It's a matter though as Grig kind of highlighted that they can be from the International time zone but if they don't push the boat out for that then it can become incredibly irritating and it would be stagnated into the way it currently is now.

Agreed. Although one thing that has confused me about HxHD (not sure if anyone else has noticed this) but HxHD seems to be more popular during intl hours than UK i think that's maybe because there were HxHD managers, both Rosy and Erin. So i think if anything the UK times need to be worked on more than intl. I remember when i was HxHD staff before we'd do like mini room competitions in the room, even bring in like topics that people enjoy discussing etc, even doing events etc in the room i thought that was the main point of having an events section in the room in previous layouts :P? Take full advantage of the size of the room is all i have to say :).

I do agree with having a intl manager and a uk side, thats why it does work so well with HxL because Myself and Grig focus more on the timezones we are currently in but still make sure that we are still remaining global.

[Shar]

Agreed. Although one thing that has confused me about HxHD (not sure if anyone else has noticed this) but HxHD seems to be more popular during intl hours than UK i think that's maybe because there were HxHD managers, both Rosy and Erin. So i think if anything the UK times need to be worked on more than intl. I remember when i was HxHD staff before we'd do like mini room competitions in the room, even bring in like topics that people enjoy discussing etc, even doing events etc in the room i thought that was the main point of having an events section in the room in previous layouts :P? Take full advantage of the size of the room is all i have to say :).

I do agree with having a intl manager and a uk side, thats why it does work so well with HxL because Myself and Grig focus more on the timezones we are currently in but still make sure that we are still remaining global.
yessss exactly! I think a lot of what we used yo do is start random conversations about random topics and engage non hx as well as hx members into them and that way we used to be able to get quite a lot of people to sign up to the forum and apply for hx jobs. I don't really see that anymore.

[despect]

yessss exactly! I think a lot of what we used yo do is start random conversations about random topics and engage non hx as well as hx members into them and that way we used to be able to get quite a lot of people to sign up to the forum and apply for hx jobs. I don't really see that anymore.

Yeah, i mean i know a lot of people now use HxHD for a place to go on brb which shows a lot really doesn't it? The HxHD needs to really make the help desk fun again! and if that means starting random topics of discussion then so be it!

[GoldenMerc]

Bring back Re-call or Eckuii

[Jurv]

Bring back Re-call or Eckuii

idk who they are but i say bring back stripedtiger her rules were da bomb

I EVEN REMEMBER HER USING >>BLUE<< COLOURED TEXT FOR THE RULES

[Yupt]

hecktix for hxhd manager.

[AgnesIO]

hecktix for hxhd manager.

lmao, he knows how to change things in HxHD...

[geo]

idk who they are but i say bring back stripedtiger her rules were da bomb

I EVEN REMEMBER HER USING >>BLUE<< COLOURED TEXT FOR THE RULES

funniest manager ever. asking me to be mean or for gossip to avoid getting herself in trouble hahahaha.

jurv and mcdonalds for hxhd managers we got this

[GoldenMerc]

idk who they are but i say bring back stripedtiger her rules were da bomb

I EVEN REMEMBER HER USING >>BLUE<< COLOURED TEXT FOR THE RULES

Steph, she used to be hot

[Jurv]

funniest manager ever. asking me to be mean or for gossip to avoid getting herself in trouble hahahaha.

jurv and mcdonalds for hxhd managers we got this

omfg i remember like the first hour she was promoted she made an ENTIRE thread of new rules and changes i was pissing myself

i would like 2 say that we got this but i dont think the dept could handle us x

[despect]

Can you please bring back HotelUser to get HxHD back to the way it should be please???????????????????

[orientalframe?]

idk who they are but i say bring back stripedtiger her rules were da bomb

I EVEN REMEMBER HER USING >>BLUE<< COLOURED TEXT FOR THE RULES

why haven't you had a 5 minute break :@"£%!!!":£%:@£$^!?!?!"£:@

i agree with the manager applications anyway, defo mixes it up

[GoldenMerc]

orientalframe for manager

[Jurv]

why haven't you had a 5 minute break :@"£%!!!":£%:@£$^!?!?!"£:@

i agree with the manager applications anyway, defo mixes it up

hahaha DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE FIVE MINUTE BREAKS

[Shar]

Can you please bring back HotelUser to get HxHD back to the way it should be please???????????????????
LMAO you would love that.
brb getting him to apply

(good luck to everyone who has applied)

[despect]

LMAO you would love that.
brb getting him to apply

OR dogboy123 please??????

O/T: Again good luck anyone who applies wooo. :D

[Drake.]

Am gonna apply,

IF I WIN THE ELECTION TO BECOME NEXT HXHD THE CHANGES IM GOING TO MAKE

A dedicated day to hate on Comity
Scripting in the room
A christmas theme with thrones and petals and all warmy and homey
A pet pig will be added, His name will be ruffles.

Thanks for your time.

Scripting would be jokes. THIS GUY FOR MANAGER!

[Nick]

Shar; 4 hxhd manager!

goodluck to everyone else that has applied!!!!!

[Drunq]

Noy applyed. Good Luck.

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[Grig]

OR dogboy123 please??????

O/T: Again good luck anyone who applies wooo. :D

im still waiting for your app m8!!!

[GoldenMerc]

Shar; 4 hxhd manager!

goodluck to everyone else that has applied!!!!!

Your meant to support me ;l

[Jurv]

roxy was the best manager ever you should bring her back and i'm being serious this time

i bet its gonna be someone who's already staff and it just doing it for power tho

[GoldenMerc]

Ngl hoteluser or eckuii best manager

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[Nick]

roxy was the best manager ever you should bring her back and i'm being serious this time

i bet its gonna be someone who's already staff and it just doing it for power tho

yeah i loved roxy!!!

[Shar]

@Shar (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=67533); 4 hxhd manager!

goodluck to everyone else that has applied!!!!!

no but you should go for it!

[geo]

roxy's hxhd manager game was so ****** good man 10/10 would rec

[Aaron]

yeah i loved roxy!!!


no but you should go for it!

Agree with this, would love to finally see you as manager Nick. :)

[Nick]

no but you should go for it!


Agree with this, would love to finally see you as manager Nick. :)

nah don't really play habbo as much as i used to ;( although i still end up on it everyday hahaha

[Aaron]

nah don't really play habbo as much as i used to ;( although i still end up on it everyday hahaha

Addict hahaha! Did you apply?

[Yupt]

kinda odd to see a feedback thread where everyone is complimenting other people rather than arguing and throwing cheap shots. lol

[Lanyon]

Someone friendly. No one hateful. Someone fair. No one trying to cause annoyance.

[CrazyLemurs]

Someone friendly. No one hateful. Someone fair. No one trying to cause annoyance.

From what I've seen, genuinely nobody applying will be able to be hateful or purposely annoying as manager
There are too many great applicants (coffs none of whom will get it cos fabulous me applied x) for that to be any risk, which I'm glad of. I'd be happy working under nearly any of them as senior still. I am a little concerned about the possibility of some people applying just to throw everything bad with HxHD in its face in the "what could you improve" bits, because that's not the way to do it


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[Yupt]

Whoever gets it can they please bring Colin back xx

[Samantha]

I think there are some very good people running for it, who will or do care about the Help Desk and want to see it flourish. Anyone who gets it deserves a big congratulations - they will show that opening management applications wasn't a bad idea, plus they will bring the department back.

[AgnesIO]

kinda odd to see a feedback thread where everyone is complimenting other people rather than arguing and throwing cheap shots. lol

Only because those same people are applying, and don't want to make themselves look argumentative.

You wait until someone is picked, I look forward to the arguments.

[FlyingJesus]

nobody applying will be able to be hateful or purposely annoying as manager

lmao you don't say :S

[RoyalPacific]

There were three people in HxHD in the past twenty minutes, (including myself). Everyone went AFK and got kicked by themselves.

[CrazyLemurs]

There are always times the Help Desk is empty due to events etc. but there's little we can do in that situation

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[despect]

There are always times the Help Desk is empty due to events etc. but there's little we can do in that situation

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It's often empty even when there aren't events on, what his point was, people go to HxHD to go afk.

[Yupt]

You tend to find that when the room is very quiet and most of the users are in events then that happens a lot. There are few people to talk to and quite frankly little reason to continually look at the screen. Obviously it's a shame especially if someone does come in looking for help, but it's very easy to forget to check back when you're doing something else, especially if it's not busy :P

[RoyalPacific]

You tend to find that when the room is very quiet and most of the users are in events then that happens a lot. There are few people to talk to and quite frankly little reason to continually look at the screen. Obviously it's a shame especially if someone does come in looking for help, but it's very easy to forget to check back when you're doing something else, especially if it's not busy :P

I agree, it's a shame but I suppose hopefully that's what the manager will improve upon?

[CrazyLemurs]

It's something I'd love to see the new manager amend, but I myself certainly can't think of ways to make that better; even staff don't want to be behind when the room is empty because it's difficult
I'd love to hear your ideas about it, guys, and what methods will work best to keep the room active


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[RoyalPacific]

It's something I'd love to see the new manager amend, but I myself certainly can't think of ways to make that better; even staff don't want to be behind when the room is empty because it's difficult
I'd love to hear your ideas about it, guys, and what methods will work best to keep the room active


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I don't know if you guys do it already but a lot more team bonding, and more events in the HxHD? Create discussions, like a topic a day or something. I'm sure you could promote HxHD in other ways like HxL promote.

Just ideas I'm thinking of.

[despect]

It's something I'd love to see the new manager amend, but I myself certainly can't think of ways to make that better; even staff don't want to be behind when the room is empty because it's difficult
I'd love to hear your ideas about it, guys, and what methods will work best to keep the room active


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Well, when i was HxHD staff before like ive mentioned previously in this thread, we used to do things like chat topics in the room, something that people can participate in. Whenever i see staff in the room i always get the idea that they are there mainly to get their hours up and not actually talk to people. Talking to new users who come into the room is always a good way to get people to come back! Using the fact you've got bigger rooms as HxHD now is a bonus because you can use the added space to do more quiz' and so on. I think thats something that HxHD is lacking, talking to new users who could potentially make the room popular again, you need to give them a reason to come back!

[RoyalPacific]

Well, when i was HxHD staff before like ive mentioned previously in this thread, we used to do things like chat topics in the room, something that people can participate in. Whenever i see staff in the room i always get the idea that they are there mainly to get their hours up and not actually talk to people. Talking to new users who come into the room is always a good way to get people to come back! Using the fact you've got bigger rooms as HxHD now is a bonus because you can use the added space to do more quiz' and so on. I think thats something that HxHD is lacking, talking to new users who could potentially make the room popular again, you need to give them a reason to come back!

Totally agree! :)