-:Undertaker:-
12-11-2013, 08:13 AM
UK - YouGov poll on EU referendum: 39% would vote to remain EU member, 39% to leave. If relationship renegotiated: 51% to stay, 25% to leave
It's been dawning on me some time and from what i've read with others that if a referendum on EU membership is to be held, the pro-independence side faces a huge uphill battle that honestly we're looking set to lose. Look at those figures. Awful. It's only one poll of course, but the trend has been towards a closing of the gap - I suspect this week the gap has narrowed to such an extent because the CBI (the people who said if we didn't join the Euro the economy will collapse - although the BBC won't mention that in their broadcasts) has been out warning that large corporations won't invest in the UK if we withdraw. Which is total rubbish of course.
Back in the 70's when we had a referendum on a 'renegotiated' (nothing really was changed) EEC - the polls at first put the outers on a two thirds majority to leave. By the end of the campaign after all of the newspapers, BBC, three main parties etc had piled in - they won by a huge margin and we stayed in. If that poll is anything to go by then not only would we likely lose a referendum on today's terms, but when Cameron comes back with his fake negotiated terms then that'll be it - the British people are going to fall for the same ******** they were fed back in the 1970s.
It's looking more and more to me that the only way to get out of this is either the Eurozone crisis forcing us out, ie closer integration and political unification occurs within the Eurozone or if a party of government can be built which will automatically take us out once it has won a majority. The first scenario is most likely.
It doesn't look good.
Thoughts?
It's been dawning on me some time and from what i've read with others that if a referendum on EU membership is to be held, the pro-independence side faces a huge uphill battle that honestly we're looking set to lose. Look at those figures. Awful. It's only one poll of course, but the trend has been towards a closing of the gap - I suspect this week the gap has narrowed to such an extent because the CBI (the people who said if we didn't join the Euro the economy will collapse - although the BBC won't mention that in their broadcasts) has been out warning that large corporations won't invest in the UK if we withdraw. Which is total rubbish of course.
Back in the 70's when we had a referendum on a 'renegotiated' (nothing really was changed) EEC - the polls at first put the outers on a two thirds majority to leave. By the end of the campaign after all of the newspapers, BBC, three main parties etc had piled in - they won by a huge margin and we stayed in. If that poll is anything to go by then not only would we likely lose a referendum on today's terms, but when Cameron comes back with his fake negotiated terms then that'll be it - the British people are going to fall for the same ******** they were fed back in the 1970s.
It's looking more and more to me that the only way to get out of this is either the Eurozone crisis forcing us out, ie closer integration and political unification occurs within the Eurozone or if a party of government can be built which will automatically take us out once it has won a majority. The first scenario is most likely.
It doesn't look good.
Thoughts?