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FlyingJesus
18-11-2013, 11:17 PM
Will you apply?
Who do you think should get it?
Who do you think shouldn't?
Should Alex be choosing favourites and pushing friends to go for it before the apps even get sent?

Any thoughts on this???

Yuxin; for manager.

Rachel
18-11-2013, 11:18 PM
I applied :) Good luck to whoever have or will apply :D

MKR&*42
18-11-2013, 11:19 PM
Tom why don't you apply :o I actually think you'd be great.
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I might apply not 100% sure

sex
18-11-2013, 11:19 PM
not applying waiting for skynus job to become available
only a matter of time

Gina
18-11-2013, 11:21 PM
i think people like cassie zeb and erm the other people whos name i cant remember (sorry)
errm i think either you or graham should/will get it or just idk people that thing

Inseriousity.
18-11-2013, 11:23 PM
I'm not going to apply but good luck to anyone who does.
Creativity was always my thing that'd make someone stand out for me so that was always the deciding factor if it was between two people.

Kardan
18-11-2013, 11:36 PM
Please apply FJ.

CrazyLemurs
18-11-2013, 11:47 PM
I don't think Tom should apply because, whilst it's a community role (something he is apparently good at), I don't think he'd take it seriously enough.
Sorry if that hurt your feelings but I wanted to say it


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zebbadi
18-11-2013, 11:51 PM
Will you apply?
Who do you think should get it?
Who do you think shouldn't?
Should Alex be choosing favourites and pushing friends to go for it before the apps even get sent?

Any thoughts on this???

Yuxin; for manager.

I hope friends are left out of it tbh >.< with events its mainly not the case.

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i think people like cassie zeb and erm the other people whos name i cant remember (sorry)
errm i think either you or graham should/will get it or just idk people that thing

I am leaving Gina I am not applying

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Tom why don't you apply :o I actually think you'd be great.
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I might apply not 100% sure

You are the strongest candidate for me, go for it.

FlyingJesus
18-11-2013, 11:57 PM
I don't think Tom should apply because, whilst it's a community role (something he is apparently good at), I don't think he'd take it seriously enough.

It's true I only make thousands of legit suggestions for laughs, not dedicated to Hx in any way

App just sent xo

Cassiieee
18-11-2013, 11:59 PM
Goodluck to everyone who has applied.

lemons
18-11-2013, 11:59 PM
I think FJ would actually be quite good

Gina you would be awesome as well

Under NO circumstances should Cassie or zebbadi become assistant! Especially Cassie

No offence pmsl

Inseriousity.
18-11-2013, 11:59 PM
Whether Alex's friends apply for it or not is irrelevant (and I would question whether you're capable to work as a team if you're applying by trying to drag Alex's name through the mud with irrelevant points like that) as the decision is not made by Alex. Management decisions are made by general management and while Alex will likely get a say, it'll be general management who have to decide who's the best fit for Habbox.

FlyingJesus
19-11-2013, 12:02 AM
Not irrelevant when he's begging certain people to apply, and working as a team so far for events management this year has meant doing nothing at all so I'm quite happy for people to think that I won't be doing that

Jurv
19-11-2013, 12:04 AM
if i was manager i'd be pushing my friends to apply too, i wouldn't wanna work with someone i didn't like

hopefully management will make the right decision and actually take the existing managers thoughts into consideration (!!!!)

Inseriousity.
19-11-2013, 12:08 AM
It is irrelevant if he has no final say in any decision. Are you saying that if you were to get the role, you'd just do your own thing and not work together? A management team where the assistant and manager aren't even talking to one another most likely resulting in a lot of miscommunication with the staff as well, yeah that'll really make sense.

FlyingJesus
19-11-2013, 12:11 AM
Well if he wants to continue with the way he currently works then yes that would be the case because I want to actually make changes and get things going which doesn't seem to be Alex's plan. If he wants to build the department back up and make it work then that's a different story - I have no problem working with him and never said that I would, but it is rather contingent on him wanting to do some work since it's not worth my time or anyone else's having a role with the same activity Martin put in

HE-Joshua
19-11-2013, 12:12 AM
Offtopic I know but my opinion is there need to be an international manager for events which would be seperate from the uk group because right now the department is in complete despair...

Kardan
19-11-2013, 12:12 AM
I don't think Tom should apply because, whilst it's a community role (something he is apparently good at), I don't think he'd take it seriously enough.
Sorry if that hurt your feelings but I wanted to say it


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Personally I would argue that his feedback threads on events is taking it a lot more seriously than the lack of change the events department have implemented over the last few months.

Sorry if that caused offence, just wanted to say it :P

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Offtopic I know but my opinion is there need to be an international manager for events which would be seperate from the uk group because right now the department is in complete despair...

I don't think there's a demand for an international manager, it's not as if there's a lack of events at international times - it's generally a lack of events overall.

HE-Joshua
19-11-2013, 12:14 AM
I don't think there's a demand for an international manager, it's not as if there's a lack of events at international times - it's generally a lack of events overall.

There is no demand because in general they have a lack of interest to pursue international hours I'd give it a couple of weeks and you'd have a UK sized team doing events if there was an international manager...

Kardan
19-11-2013, 12:20 AM
There is no demand because in general they have a lack of interest to pursue international hours I'd give it a couple of weeks and you'd have a UK sized team doing events if there was an international manager...

I don't think having an international manager would make international events explode. We have a GMT based manager, and there's a lack of events. We need to get events going constantly at peak hours before we start getting events on at 3am.

Inseriousity.
19-11-2013, 12:22 AM
If you actually got to know Alex you'd know that he does want to build the department up and make it work so you shouldn't have any issues on that front if you got the role. I'd also suggest you'd have more success working together than trying to do your own thing or have you no people management skills at all.

David
19-11-2013, 12:23 AM
not applying waiting for skynus job to become available
only a matter of time

hes gonna get fired for working at habbin with bolt

FlyingJesus
19-11-2013, 12:28 AM
If you actually got to know Alex you'd know that he does want to build the department up and make it work so you shouldn't have any issues on that front if you got the role. I'd also suggest you'd have more success working together than trying to do your own thing or have you no people management skills at all.

As I said, if that's the case then there's no issue, it's just that thus far there's been no evidence of such intentions and hasn't been for a long time. If that's changing, fab. Also I quite clearly said that I wasn't going to attempt to work as though I was totally separate unless he was planning on carrying on doing nothing, and my people management skills are what allows me to work with people who aren't necessarily already my closest bosom buddies. If you're only able to work with people who you know inside out from the start that's having no people management skills

ps

being good friends doesn't necessarily result in a more constructive team and some of the horror stories I've heard suggests that the current team is actually doing more harm than good

Inseriousity.
19-11-2013, 12:40 AM
And I stick by that. I'm not saying you need to be BFFs to work together, far from it, so you're being a bit too specific with what I meant by people management skills. What I actually meant by that was that if you're doing one thing but Alex doesn't agree with that and you haven't worked together on solutions then your staff will be getting mixed signals which isn't really a good foundation to be building a cohesive team/department.

FlyingJesus
19-11-2013, 12:42 AM
Well if the power dynamic of manager/assistant is set up properly that shouldn't be possible even if I did want to :P

Rozi
19-11-2013, 04:05 AM
YES I ASSITANT MANAGER YES U ALL AGREE GOOD
SORTED

FlyingJesus
19-11-2013, 04:24 AM
I'll cut you

Rozi
19-11-2013, 04:31 AM
I'll cut you

that's not very nice
perm ban

Foregetfuhl
19-11-2013, 07:33 AM
For me personally, after working with Alex, he is an extremely dedicated and hard working boy. He hasn't had it easy and I believe regardless of who it is, as long as they are actually willing to work, he will work with them. I encourage anyone with ideas and enthusiasm for the department to apply. Regardless of where they live or their friendship levels with him.

e5
19-11-2013, 07:36 AM
Great to see that you can actually apply for a managerial role now!

Foregetfuhl
19-11-2013, 07:42 AM
Great to see that you can actually apply for a managerial role now!

To be honest, after getting such great applications from the HxHD management applications and a really good result as well we would have been stupid not to. There is a big interest in events community wise and plenty of people who want to see it thrive. Now they have a chance to show us that 1) they were serious about it and 2) that they can help build the department up

-Moniquee.
19-11-2013, 08:18 AM
Intersocial you should go for it, you're a strong candidate Hayden.

Rozi
19-11-2013, 11:41 AM
excuse me why is no one taking my application seriously

-:Undertaker:-
19-11-2013, 12:20 PM
I'm not sure I am quite keen on this idea now judging by reactions on this thread - this application scheme could well be used now by General Management to undermine managers they want rid of/don't agree with. I am not saying that is happening, but it's certainly something i'd be wary of.

We'll see how it goes.

Chug!
19-11-2013, 12:22 PM
Applied. :) Whether I get it or not, another thing :))


Good luck to you all. xx

lawrawrrr
19-11-2013, 12:33 PM
In most cases I'd say it wouldn't be the best route to use, but when there's genuinely noone suitable in the department, it's good to get an outside view, and decide which person (say, from a department with no seniors) would be best for the job. It's obvious from the HxHD applications they wouldn't let people in with absolutely no experience; both of them have been Senior staff for a while.

For this position, I think that the best person would be someone with creativity and drive. Good luck to everyone who applies!

Red
19-11-2013, 12:33 PM
apply graham!! sex;

karter
19-11-2013, 12:45 PM
ohhh i would've applied but I have exams coming up in March so yh

despect
19-11-2013, 12:49 PM
It would be interesting to see who gets the role, I Myself will not be applying but i wish the best to everyone else who does! Although as everyone has quite rightly said i think theres someone who stands out as someone who could bring a lot of good ideas to the events department and give it the push it really needs and thats FlyingJesus;

Inseriousity.
19-11-2013, 12:55 PM
I'm not sure I am quite keen on this idea now judging by reactions on this thread - this application scheme could well be used now by General Management to undermine managers they want rid of/don't agree with. I am not saying that is happening, but it's certainly something i'd be wary of.

We'll see how it goes.

I agree. I'm satisfied that Tom, for example, would get on well with Alex as he'd find out for himself that he does genuinely want to improve things but all it takes is a little comment here and there like the one in the first post to undermine management and create splits in the department which is not constructive at all and likely to make things worse. The only way to counteract that would be if someone above stamped down on such behaviour - hence my questioning btw it wasn't totally random - and I've already talked at length about how general management are incapable of doing that so yes I agree that this application system could be used as an underhanded way to get rid of managers they're incapable of firing themselves. I think there's a difference between disagreeing with a manager and not having faith in their abilities and that it's fine to fire someone for the latter - for example, I fired Logan as HxL manager not because he wasn't doing no work but because I had no confidence that he'd get the department out of the slump it was in - but Matt just prefers to bide his time and wait for them to leave rather than getting rid of them himself.

Yupt
19-11-2013, 01:04 PM
apply graham!! @sex (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=101389);

i agree with this!!! graham for asst!

Lewis
19-11-2013, 01:20 PM
How many events a week is required for events management? I think it's the same, but I'm not sure.

Sho
19-11-2013, 01:42 PM
How many events a week is required for events management? I think it's the same, but I'm not sure.

Yeah, it's the same.

Plebings
19-11-2013, 02:18 PM
i'd have been all over this 2 months ago, good luck anyone applying. events really needs some new blood and a great amount of enthusiasm and hope, focus on improving rather than satisfying.

Yupt
19-11-2013, 02:56 PM
i'd have been all over this 2 months ago, good luck anyone applying. events really needs some new blood and a great amount of enthusiasm and hope, focus on improving rather than satisfying.

get involved!!! applyapplyapply

FlyingJesus
19-11-2013, 03:41 PM
I encourage absolutely everyone to apply so Matt has to read thousands of PMs it'll be funny

Grig
19-11-2013, 03:52 PM
If anyone is suitable for the job, it'll be Tom for sure. He's got leadership qualities and always pitches some really innovative ideas.

Good luck to everyone who does apply!

Lewis
19-11-2013, 04:05 PM
i'd have been all over this 2 months ago, good luck anyone applying. events really needs some new blood and a great amount of enthusiasm and hope, focus on improving rather than satisfying.

are you events manager at hfest now?

Smurfed-
19-11-2013, 04:25 PM
I'm really looking forward to reading the applications.

The app that would stand out for me is the one that shows most enthusiasm and drive to improve things. Good luck all :)

lawrawrrr
19-11-2013, 05:48 PM
i'd have been all over this 2 months ago, good luck anyone applying. events really needs some new blood and a great amount of enthusiasm and hope, focus on improving rather than satisfying.

I think you'd be really good, a shame that you're already nabbed elsewhere :'(


on phone xx

myles
19-11-2013, 05:49 PM
ppl like cassie dnt deserve this thats just my honest opinion

i think yuxin should she brings joy 2 her events and makes them fun

Shar
19-11-2013, 07:24 PM
FlyingJesus Intersocial go for it

Tom
19-11-2013, 08:33 PM
Don't feel threatened guys, but I have applied for the role.

Jokes, but some good points in this thread guys. They're all noted General Management :) - thanks. Good luck to all who apply.

Rachel
19-11-2013, 08:58 PM
i think yuxin should she brings joy 2 her events and makes them fun

I know I tried to tell her to apply because she would be a good Assistant Events Manager ^_^

FlyingJesus
19-11-2013, 11:10 PM
I genuinely have never had more fun in my life than in Gina's events

ihatehash
20-11-2013, 02:26 AM
My one issue with the applications for management is that why should someone get a managerial position if they are not even bothered to put in the time to be a normal eo. I hope to see someone get the role who has spent a reasonable amount of time int he department as well as going to quite a few of the events. By that I mean events hosted by multiple eo's and not just one person who they may be friends with.

Rachel
20-11-2013, 02:48 AM
They don't have to be Events Organiser to be a good Assistant Events Manager. It is the time they will put,dedication,leadership and structured. Someone who enjoys it.

Calum0812
20-11-2013, 08:07 PM
My one issue with the applications for management is that why should someone get a managerial position if they are not even bothered to put in the time to be a normal eo. I hope to see someone get the role who has spent a reasonable amount of time int he department as well as going to quite a few of the events. By that I mean events hosted by multiple eo's and not just one person who they may be friends with.
It's a good point but I think it's interesting for people, like myself, who haven't been in the department very much to be able to sit back and say "these are the points we need to improve" because it's a fresh set of eyes. Not sure whether I'll be applying but that's just my opinion.

despect
20-11-2013, 08:36 PM
My one issue with the applications for management is that why should someone get a managerial position if they are not even bothered to put in the time to be a normal eo. I hope to see someone get the role who has spent a reasonable amount of time int he department as well as going to quite a few of the events. By that I mean events hosted by multiple eo's and not just one person who they may be friends with.

Although i do actually agree with you. However, sometimes someone not being in the department and seeing it from an outside point of view can actually help them because they can see the department from the community's view rather than from staff view.

Empired
20-11-2013, 08:42 PM
I haven't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been said before but..

I think opening applications up this time is a great idea. Although I don't know too much about the events department myself, so many people have said that there is no one suitable at the moment that I assume this is true. At the same time, though, I think the (A)GMs have to be careful not to get lazy and slip into the routine of opening applications up every time. It's good to have a mix of old blood and new because we've seen what happens when it's all old blood but I have a feeling that all new blood would end up being just as disastrous as no one would know what they were doing.

I think what I'm trying to say here is that every situation is going to have to be judged independently because each case will be different depending on the circumstances of the department.

Jurv
20-11-2013, 09:13 PM
i hope people realise that whoevers hired isn't gonna be the answer to all of events problems

it's not the managers thats the problem, it's the staff and habbox's current presence on habbo.. which is non existent

i say you open up applications for general management

FlyingJesus
20-11-2013, 09:17 PM
Cassie for general manager

Kardan
21-11-2013, 05:44 PM
i hope people realise that whoevers hired isn't gonna be the answer to all of events problems

it's not the managers thats the problem, it's the staff and habbox's current presence on habbo.. which is non existent

i say you open up applications for general management

Now I was under the impression that it was the managers who hired and fired staff members... So if the staff of a certain department is bad, the manager has at least some of the responsibility for that.

!x!dude!x!2
21-11-2013, 06:01 PM
Tom should get it ;)

I might apply

Jurv
21-11-2013, 08:29 PM
Now I was under the impression that it was the managers who hired and fired staff members... So if the staff of a certain department is bad, the manager has at least some of the responsibility for that.

i meant it as in there's lack of staff for managers to hire

which i think is more of a habbox issue as a whole rather than one departments problem

Inseriousity.
21-11-2013, 08:30 PM
I agree cameron, still waiting for that action plan I suggested to see what they were planning on solving the issue.

Rachel
21-11-2013, 08:33 PM
There is nothing wrong opening applications for management. It's always good to see who is interested and seeing their ideas on what they are planning to do. If general management thinks no one is suitable for the position atm then why even put the applications in public? I applied but I know for a fact I won't be chosen. I did express the ideas that I would share if I was in that position but I am sure others are better then my application of course. The main thing is that you expressed your interest into the application.

Samantha
21-11-2013, 08:49 PM
I may apply, I know I won't be considered, but it's nice to fill in that application and show the management what you are capable of doing as if you're not ready now on the off chance they're opened again then you could easily be thought about and your chances may improve.

I do like the department overall though, although some of the current staff don't appear to be of good quality and could be there just to make numbers up. A fresh set of eyes will mean they can visit a more varied amount of events (not just getting events seniors+ to go to more) if that makes sense. That way there's more opinions on the quality of events hosted. They can also bring unique ideas and again a fresh set of eyes.

Honestly, there are a few who could easily do well in the department, the ideas they have are amazing and they have Habbox's (Events) best interest at heart, which is one of the key things needed!

Good Luck to all who applies and I'm sure one of you will outshine the others (or more) and bring events back up to speed!

Kardan
21-11-2013, 09:08 PM
i meant it as in there's lack of staff for managers to hire

which i think is more of a habbox issue as a whole rather than one departments problem

Ah, that's fair - thought you meant existing staff :P

Reality
24-11-2013, 09:44 AM
In all honesty I think it's going to be the members how have been on the forum the longest and possibly the manager might have known for longer; all will be announced soon!!


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