tolerance level for the disabled

[Yawn]

do we have a higher tolerance level for disabled ppl regarding wat we deem is acceptable and unacceptable behaviour?

for example frequently when im at work we r disrupted by disabled ppl with their carers. they throw tantrums and start screaming v loud....lie across the floor whilst screaming. i know its not uncommon for these ppl to get violent and hit their carers v hard (not to mention many disabled ppl have a large amount of brute strength particurly downs syndrome 1s).

so my question is, do u allow disabled ppl to continue in their disruptive behaviour? wat if the issue starts directly involving u? i know when i was at skl in my tutor i had a disabled person who used to pick his nose, the plaque off his teeth and then start pointing it towards me and offering it to me. at wat point does this overstep the mark? how many times should i have to tell this person that he cannot continue wat he is doing b4 i have to take the matter further?

clearly this type of behaviour is completely unacceptable for ur average human being. how far can we allow our exceptions for these ppl go? at wat point does it overstep the mark? when do we put our foot down and say NO?

[myles]

this is a little off topic but can u determine if ur child is disabled or not before u give birth to it?
if yes then i would get rid of it
sorry if that offends anyone but like susan has just said they are very disruptive and abusive. why would anyone want to go thru that?

[Yawn]

ok im going to explain myself further

im currently facing a battle...and i am out of options. i want to hit a disabled person (badly). but i feel like this is.....wrong.
and i will be badly judged for my actions.

[sex]

a down syndrom guy get on my bus regurally, even if its full he will push his way through people swinging his bag left to right hitting people in order to get a seat or MAKE someone get up out of their seat so he can sit, when he only travels 3 stops (10min max walking distance)

SOME CAN be nice and normal but i hate the ones who give off this kind of behavior because the reaction they get and use it to get what they want!

[Kardan]

this is a little off topic but can u determine if ur child is disabled or not before u give birth to it?
if yes then i would get rid of it
sorry if that offends anyone but like susan has just said they are very disruptive and abusive. why would anyone want to go thru that?

It depends on the disability.

As for the topic at hand, the answer is yes.

[Shar]

this is a little off topic but can u determine if ur child is disabled or not before u give birth to it?
if yes then i would get rid of it
sorry if that offends anyone but like susan has just said they are very disruptive and abusive. why would anyone want to go thru that?
There are screening tests that can assess the chance of a women having a baby with Down's Syndrome. At the women's first scan they look at the nuchal translucency which assesses the quantity of fluid collecting within the nape of the fetal neck. At the same time they also offer a blood test known as the quadruple blood test. However these only look at risk factors and are not diagnostic.
If the risk factors turn out to be quite high then a further diagnostic test is available:
There are also diagnostic tests that will give you a definite diagnosis of Down's syndrome and, sometimes, other abnormalities. These are:


Chorionic villus sampling (CVS)
Amniocentesis

At the second ultrasound scan which is usually between 18-20 weeks of the pregnancy the sonographer can scan to checl for any physical abnormalities for the baby.

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/screening-amniocentesis-downs-syndrome.aspx#close
http://www.screening.nhs.uk/cms.php?folder=2408

[wixard]

once i was on a bus and ther ewas a disabled man and he hit this young girl and she started to cry and her bf just comforted her but couldn't do anything cos the guy was disabled

[Yawn]

that oversteps the mark badly tara. but there is nothing that can be done i dont think

its rly sad and rly gd example for my discussion thx

[Futz]

*REMOVED*

Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post inappropriately!

[Mikey]

*REMOVED*

bit extreme?

I do agree that some are disruptive and use their disability as an excuse to cause upset and havoc if they don't get their own way but I dunno how it can be sorted.. it's a tricky one.

[cornbix]

*REMOVED*

Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post inappropriately.

[Mikey]

*REMOVED*

You're disgusting. :/

[AgnesIO]

Perfectly tolerant of any disabled person, as long as they do not use their disabilities as an excuse to benefit in one way or another (same thing as girls and sexism).

[Metric1]

very low. i wish it was higher.

[Matthew]

I think we do have a higher tolerance level for disabled people and so we should.

I've no doubt that there will be some people out there who just use their disability to 'get what they want' however many disabled people really do not understand what they're doing wrong and so of course we should be more tolerating and accepting (in those situations at least).

[Gibs960]

If you hit someone and cause harm, it's still assault in the way that it's assault if you hit a non-disabled person.

But don't say that all disabled people are bad because that isn't the case!

[dbgtz]

I always think it's important to distinguish when someone is just disabled and when someone is an arse hole.

[Matt]

Yeah it does vary depending on what their disability is. I do tend to feel sorry for people with disabilities, especially when I see they're trying the best to do something like get out of the house and be independent, but when people milk the idea of having a disability and expect to be given special treatment and believe they can get away with anything, that really makes me annoyed because there are so many people out there who genuinely try to live normal lives even with a disability. My tolerance level however is fairly high.

[-:Undertaker:-]

We had a kid in a wheelchair who was frankly, a little horror. Needless to say that when he tried running me over (which he did infront of the teaching assistant) I glared at her as if to say, what are you going to do? and when she did nothing I grabbed hold of his controller stick and bashed his wheelchair a few times into the wall and walked off.

If kids with disabilities are going to go to mainstream schools then fine, but they've gotta expect to be treated the same - something I was willing to apply and argue the toss over on numerous occassions with the school. :P

[Yawn]

We had a kid in a wheelchair who was frankly, a little horror. Needless to say that when he tried running me over (which he did infront of the teaching assistant) I glared at her as if to say, what are you going to do? and when she did nothing I grabbed hold of his controller stick and bashed his wheelchair a few times into the wall and walked off.

If kids with disabilities are going to go to mainstream schools then fine, but they've gotta expect to be treated the same - something I was willing to apply and argue the toss over on numerous occassions with the school. :P

PISSING myself

i wouldnt dream of doing that.

[Jazz]

It really depends what disability and strand they suffer with.

I have a higher tolerance to people who suffer with mental disabilities or (major) learning disabilities. I think growing up around a lot of people with learning disorders and mental illnesses has given me a higher tolerance to them and I know that most of the time they don't understand what they're doing wrong.

I get very annoyed a people who have minor learning/mental illness and use it as an excuse to get away with everything.
Example - This boy in my college had ADHD and one day he didn't take his meds. So, he came up to my desk while I was working with my Learning Support. He stood behind me and started nudging my back constantly, which was causing my work to mess up and go everywhere and then he went onto kicking my leg which was setting off my muscle spasms/tics so I turned round and clocked him straight in the mouth. He got away with it because he had a "Serious Learning and Behavioural difficulty" and I got a formal warning [At the time I wasn't on the Behavioural list].

When some people get diagnosed with these disorders they think they can just get away with everything, and quite often they do just that. If they're pissing you off, tell them or their carer but make it sound nice and professional so they don't try and play the discrimination card

[myles]

elp undertaker

[cornbix]

undertaer did the right thing. maybe it will teach them a lesson

[dana1099]

It depends on the disablilty. If they have down-syndrome or something, thats understandable at times.. but i do know some mentally disabled people who act like normal people, they just look and talk a little funny bc of their disability. but if theyre obviously not aware of there actions then just walk away xD. u should be able to tell if theyre just ignorant or not.