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-:Undertaker:-
27-01-2014, 12:44 PM
http://rufushound.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/david-and-jeremy-want-your-kids-to-die-unless-youre-rich/


http://www.universalgenius.co.uk/sites/default/files/mugshots/600full-rufus-hound.jpeg

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100256663/bbc-comedian-says-cameron-wants-your-kids-to-die/


This is a new low. Rufus Hound, the host of a Radio 4 comedy programme, has announced he's standing for election to the European Parliament and accused the Prime Minister of wanting children to die. In a blog post entitled 'David and Jeremy want your kids to die (unless you're rich)', Hound rails against the "politico douchebags" who are "taking away your kids access to medicine":


The millionaires that currently run things have decided that you (assuming you’re not a member of the Bullingdon Club, or a trustafarian) can go f*** yourself. This place is for them, not you. Why should you get free healthcare? Why can’t they take that big pot of money ear-marked for medicine and just start sharing it out amongst themselves?

Hound is a candidate for the National Health Action Party, an apparently respectable organisation founded by a former MP and the Chair of the NHS Consultants Association. If a member of Ukip used such intemperate, inflammatory language, Nigel Farage would be forced to disown him or her. Shouldn't the National Health Action Party do likewise?

I posed this question to the Party on Twitter last night and it wasn't long before Hound himself weighed in. As you'll see, he's in no mood to repent.

-Read article for Twitter exchanges between Rufus Hound and Toby Young-

So basically summed up: Rufus Hound believes that David Cameron wants children to die and that the NHS shouldn't be privatised and should remain 'free' - even though the NHS isn't free and you pay a lot more than you would under a private healthcare system. Rufus dufus.


So @RufusHound says he wants to save the NHS http://rufushound.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/david-and-jeremy-want-your-kids-to-die-unless-youre-rich/ … - yet he supports tax avoidance by his rich chums http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-06-20/fellow-comedian-defends-carrs-tax-avoidance/ …

Isn't it really really strange how all Islington-type left wing actors and those in the arts are complete and utter hypocrites? You have the likes of Bill Nigh backing a 'Robin Hood' campaign for higher taxes on the rich yet seemingly has nothing to say on tax avoiders like Jimmy Carr and Sir Richard Branson who both did or do avoid tax. Richard Branson is the same, warning that if we leave the EU we'll risk firms relocating offshore DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE JUST DID THAT HIMSELF TO A NON-EU COUNTRY.

The same goes for many American stars - posing as the saviours and 'equality' and 'fairness' champions of the poor despite the fact that they themselves have millions in the bank. What's stopping them from donating that money directly or indirectly to the Government? Nothing. I have NEVER been convinced by very rich people telling everybody else that they should pay even MORE tax to the Government. Never. If actors and those in the arts want to get involved in politcs then let's see them criticise eachother for once as most of their personal affairs don't tend to match what they say in public. Ain't that right, Rufus?

And for the record, I don't have a problem with tax avoidance - as far as i'm concerned, the Government taking 50% of even 30% to 40% of your wage is verging on the criminal. It's utter theft. But at least i'm consistent in that I don't advocate at the same time higher taxes. I think we should have lower taxes for EVERYBODY so that tax avoidance loses it's attractiveness. What pisses me off is luvvies like Hound and Co preaching to everybody else in a holier than thou manner. It irks me beyond belief. I turn the TV off whenever one of them comes on.

Thoughts?

GommeInc
27-01-2014, 01:43 PM
He's only becoming a politician because he's a failed comedian... Didn't he appear on one of these celebrity shows not so long ago? That's a case in point right there. He has a point, but he's sensationalised it too much.

Jazz
27-01-2014, 02:26 PM
"best known for his appearances on the Channel 4 quiz show 8 out of 10 Cats" Summing up his career in a sentence

Hes just trying to grab as much attention as possible, you could see that automatically when he did his interview with Jonathon Ross. I'm not really clued up on the happenings of the NHS, so I haven't really got much to put forward apart from his interview. Could anyone enlighten me?

FlyingJesus
27-01-2014, 02:41 PM
He has his moments but in general isn't his entire career built on having weird facial hair and shouting so why would anyone even assume for a moment that he actually knows anything about anything

GommeInc
27-01-2014, 03:41 PM
"best known for his appearances on the Channel 4 quiz show 8 out of 10 Cats" Summing up his career in a sentence
According to Wikipedia he has only appeared in one episode :P There might be mistakes, but it doesn't seem all that promising, considering he's definitely not a regular.

Yawn
27-01-2014, 03:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvodRB4cLsc

Jazz
27-01-2014, 03:48 PM
According to Wikipedia he has only appeared in one episode :P There might be mistakes, but it doesn't seem all that promising, considering he's definitely not a regular.

It was a quote from the independent, I wouldn't know for sure but I only really know Rufus Hound from children's television shows I was forced to watch:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/all/brands/hounded/bsp-main-promo/hounded-bsp_720x216.jpg

Kardan
27-01-2014, 04:25 PM
I like how the paper makes sure to get 'BBC' in the title, even though his views have nothing to do with the BBC :P

You are right though, if a normal MP said this, everyone would be going a bit mad.

The Don
27-01-2014, 05:09 PM
So basically summed up: Rufus Hound believes that David Cameron wants children to die and that the NHS shouldn't be privatised and should remain 'free' - even though the NHS isn't free and you pay a lot more than you would under a private healthcare system. Rufus dufus.


That simply isn't true.

-:Undertaker:-
27-01-2014, 05:15 PM
That simply isn't true.

Yes it is, haven't you been watching whats happening in America? Poorer Americans (mainly students) who had cheap private healthcare deals are now having their deals cancelled because the companies are now chasing the Obamacare money that the Government is offering them. Can't blame the companies or the consumer for that, that's the moronic governments fault even though the President promised that nobodys health plan would be cancelled as a result of his subsidy programme. It's the same in Britain where the NHS goes and pays £20 for a box of £1 rubber gloves.


http://www.slobodaiprosperitet.tv/sites/default/files/images/thomas-sowell-healthcare.preview.jpg

Or as Sowell's mentor and fellow economist Milton Friedman put it, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Everything has to be paid for - the only question is, under which system can healthcare be most efficently managed?

Kardan
27-01-2014, 05:17 PM
Yes it is, haven't you been watching whats happening in America? Poorer Americans (mainly students) who had cheap private healthcare deals are now having their deals cancelled because the companies are now chasing the Obamacare money that the Government is offering them. Can't blame the companies or the consumer for that, that's the moronic governments fault even though the President promised that nobodys health plan would be cancelled as a result of his subsidy programme. It's the same in Britain where the NHS goes and pays £20 for a box of £1 rubber gloves.


http://www.slobodaiprosperitet.tv/sites/default/files/images/thomas-sowell-healthcare.preview.jpg

Or as Sowell's mentor and fellow economist Milton Friedman put it, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Everything has to be paid for - the only question is, under which system can healthcare be most efficently managed?

Nice to know what's happening in America... So what's happening in the UK?

-:Undertaker:-
27-01-2014, 05:21 PM
Nice to know what's happening in America... So what's happening in the UK?

The present 'reforms'? I don't really understand them either. To my knowledge the reforms are just yet another reorganisation of the NHS that will result in absolutely no difference just as the countless reforms governments over the years have taken have made little to no difference. Opponents like Rufus Hound keep calling it privatisation, but I see no evidence of this - partial privatisation (which was a disaster - PFI schemes) took place under the last Labour Government and was mainly focused on hospital buildings. In other words, it was a way for Gordon Brown to spend spend spend but keep it off the books.

The Don
27-01-2014, 05:21 PM
Yes it is, haven't you been watching whats happening in America? Poorer Americans (mainly students) who had cheap private healthcare deals are now having their deals cancelled because the companies are now chasing the Obamacare money that the Government is offering them. Can't blame the companies or the consumer for that, that's the moronic governments fault even though the President promised that nobodys health plan would be cancelled as a result of his subsidy programme. It's the same in Britain where the NHS goes and pays £20 for a box of £1 rubber gloves.


http://www.slobodaiprosperitet.tv/sites/default/files/images/thomas-sowell-healthcare.preview.jpg

Or as Sowell's mentor and fellow economist Milton Friedman put it, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Everything has to be paid for - the only question is, under which system can healthcare be most efficently managed?

The middle class people with nice jobs that covered insurance could afford health care, what about those on minimum wage? The NHS might not be the most efficient but it's way better than people having to remortgage their homes to pay for chemotherapy. If anything, Obamacare is a step in the right direction.

-:Undertaker:-
27-01-2014, 05:27 PM
The middle class people with nice jobs that covered insurance could afford health care, what about those on minimum wage? The NHS might not be the most efficient but it's way better than people having to remortgage their homes to pay for chemotherapy. If anything, Obamacare is a step in the right direction.

The free market already caters for the poorer and students with cheaper insurance. If you take a look at the American healthcare market there are cheaper deals offered for students because companies have an interest in hoovering up those in that market and thus compete by lowering prices. Supply and demand. And see, 'Obamacare is a step in the right direction' you say even though people's healthcare plans that they were fine with are being cancelled. Now that's dogmatic. The same for people having to put their houses up to pay for treatment - that's usually because they didn't buy insurance or couldn't afford insurance (due to Government subsidies pushing the prices up).

When government starts offering subsidies, the prices increase - because companies naturally then would rather take government money (which they can squeeze more out of) than less private money from individuals. Again, not the fault of the consumer or company - fault of the government.

The Don
27-01-2014, 05:51 PM
The free market already caters for the poorer and students with cheaper insurance. If you take a look at the American healthcare market there are cheaper deals offered for students because companies have an interest in hoovering up those in that market and thus compete by lowering prices. Supply and demand. And see, 'Obamacare is a step in the right direction' you say even though people's healthcare plans that they were fine with are being cancelled. Now that's dogmatic. The same for people having to put their houses up to pay for treatment - that's usually because they didn't buy insurance or couldn't afford insurance (due to Government subsidies pushing the prices up).

When government starts offering subsidies, the prices increase - because companies naturally then would rather take government money (which they can squeeze more out of) than less private money from individuals. Again, not the fault of the consumer or company - fault of the government.

I'm sure that the NHS is cheaper since it is more or less free.

-:Undertaker:-
27-01-2014, 05:53 PM
I'm sure that the NHS is cheaper since it is more or less free.

But it's not free.

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